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to take effect between israel and hamas. it comes ahead of the planned release of some of the hostages taken from israel during last month's deadly attack by hamas. the pause in fighting is due to start at 07:00 am local time. later that afternoon, the first 13 hostages are expected to be released — more hostages will follow — a total of 50 are toe be released during this stage of the agreement. in return, israel will release 150 palestinians prisoners. the 4—day pause in the fighting will allow much needed aid to reach gaza. thousands have been killed there by weeks of israeli bombing. egypt says 130,000 litres of diesel and four trucks of gas will be delivered daily to gaza once the truce begins — as well as 200 trucks of aid each day. 0ur middle east correspondent tom bateman is injerusalem with more
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details on the deal. the news conference from the foreign minister in qatar was incredibly detailed. they have a lot of the mechanics of this deal worked out. what we know is the ceasefire is slated to begin at 7:00 in the morning, local time. this will be a temporary ceasefire scheduled to last for four days. the first phase will take place on friday. with that ceasefire holding, that would be the hope. by ii:00pm local time, the first group of hostages should be released by hamas. so these are 13 civilian women and children who will be handed over to the custody of the red cross and taken, it's thought, probably via egypt, and then on to a liaison point with the israelis. now, within two hours of that taking place, there is supposed to be the release by israel of three times that number of palestinian prisoners. so that will be 39.
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that's within a limited time frame. and all of this is so the sides are verifying their enemies, their adversaries in this, are doing what the deal says. so there's a lot of mechanics to get through but there is also, of course, a lot of scope for things still to go wrong and that is, i think, because we are in unprecedented territory here due to the number of captives being held by hamas, the ferocity and scale of the war itself and, of course, the way in which all of this began with the brutality of those attacks by hamas, and that is why i think there is very, very little trust between these two sides. there is none at all. what it's been replaced with is a kind of confidence and respect in the mediator, qatar, to hold all this together. for more on what the hostage exchange means for the next steps in the conflict, we spoke to hussein ibish, senior resident scholar at the arab gulf states institute in washington.
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how likely do you think it is that this temporary truce could be extended and more hostages released? i'm not sure about that. i think it depends on how this goes because it is going to be done in stages and there are still many pitfalls. the sides are very wary of each other. there is almost no trust at all. it is in the interest of hamas to get rid of the women and children, so they are doing this, they are getting palestinian women and children released in return. the israelis did not really want to deliver fuel and supplies to the gaza hospitals but hamas insisted, so there is going to be at least some of that, and there i think there is a tricky point. and another thing is israel has agreed not to do any overflights over gaza during the four days of truce or non—fire, ceasefire, whatever you want to call it, and one of the reasons
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for that is notjust so bombing doesn't go ahead, it's also because hamas doesn't want close surveillance of the movement of its forces as they arrange for the release of these israeli hostages. in other words, they think if israel gets a very close, good look at where they are going and coming from and how they are moving around, this would be very valuable military intelligence regarding tunnels, regarding safe places and movement, and they don't want that. that's an interesting point. i mean, what do you think it would take, then, for hamas to agree to release all the hostages? ah! ok, so there are levels of value when it comes to these hostages. the women and children are the least valuable. it's a bad look for hamas to be holding them at all, despite the brutality
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of october 7. itjust doesn't look good and i think they are happy to get rid of them in exchange for women and children being held by israel. but when it comes to some of the other prisoners, especially the really high value hostages, which are the israeli uniformed personnel, soldiers, uniformed soldiers that hamas and other groups captured, and there are quite a few of them, those hostages, i think, are expected to be worth trading for very senior and large numbers of hamas cadres being held in israel. now, israel would be loathe to release those people, since the whole sort of raison d'etre of the war is hamas must be destroyed so one thing to be releasing women and children who are being held without charge and are basically hostages themselves in israeli jails, it's another thing to release senior hamas cadres and so,
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i think there's a bit more complicated as we go down... so, hussein... into the high value hostages. if i couldjump in, ifind it interesting you've written about how the war in gaza is changing public opinion there as well, palestinian public opinion, and destroying hope for a future piece is what you wrote. 0n the eve of the war, on october 6, a big and very well respected pan—arab polling group, arab barometer, finalised a large poll of palestinians, including in gaza, that measured things like the popularity of different groups and opinions about the, you know, the sort of peace, the future of peace, and what they found was hamas was really extremely unpopular. in gaza, didn't even crack the lower 20s in terms of high level trust. its support was
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basically about 23%. and fatah, the secular nationals, also not very popular, measurably more popular. there was still support for peace with israel and still support, majority support, for a two—state solution with a palestinian state living alongside israel. now, another group, run by a man in ramallah, a much smaller sample, admittedly, and still it is very hard to poll people, survey people in the gaza strip under the current circumstances but they did do a survey that ended on november 7, a month later, and they found surging support for hamas. decreasing support for fatah and the plo. you know, i kind of collapsed of confidence in the possibility of coexistence in the two—state
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solution. but doesn't bode well for any sort of peaceful resolution. it doesn't. this conflict, this has been the most bloodied period in the hundred years of fighting between arabs and jews in palestine, in british mandatory palestine. this is the worst. this is it. and obviously, that's going to radicalise people on both sides. but also, there is a chance that it may make people think twice and realise look, they going to have to keep going through this again and again and again if they don't make a reasonable accommodation and right now, the israeli government is dead set against it, committed to annexation and implicitly committed to expulsion in the west bank at some future date and i think at the end of the war, new israeli government is found, one that can do a betterjob of governance but also re—engage with the palestinians who want to talk to israel
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and not shoot israelis. really interesting to get your insights, thank you so much forjoining us. any time, thank you. let's get more now on the hostages from one of the relatives waiting desperately for news. my colleague anna foster spoke earlier to eyal mor injerusalem. four members of his family were kidnapped on october 7. my my uncle is 78 years old, his wife is 78 years old. they live there for 60 years. their daughter karen and her son 0had live in the centre of the country, but came to visit grandma and grandpa for that weekend, 0k? they have another son who lived nearby, just a couple of blocks away. unfortunately he was murdered that saturday morning. all of them were taken by hamas, so it's actually four family members, three generations.
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0had is their only grandchild. this has been for you and so many families, an unimaginable wait for news. it looked like some hostages may be released today, but that's been delayed. does that make you feel nervous, anxious, that deal is close to being done, but still hasn't happened just yet? hasn't happened “ust yet? we've been prepared _ hasn't happened just yet? we've been prepared that _ hasn't happened just yet? we've been prepared that hamas - hasn't happened just yet? we've been prepared that hamas will. been prepared that hamas will do exactly what you're describing, playing with our feelings, making all these psychological games. we are trying not to get excited too much, although we wish, you know, they'll be here to hug and kiss. but, we learn from experience, hamas has this reputation of playing with the feelings of the families. i hold myself back not to get too excited. although inside i really wish they were here today. when do you think to find out
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in any of your family members will be included in this release? what we were told is that the structure of this deal would be multiple strokes. each day, we will get the list. i mean, the idf will get a list of the hostages that will be released in the following day. so then, we only will know a few hours before that hopefully, our loved ones are included in this list, so this uncertainty is something that drives you crazy. i bet. and have you been told anymore about what will happen if they are released, the process is, when you will get to see them and hug them and do all those things that i'm sure you would be desperate to do? yes, yes, we heard that there is a very structured plan how to treat them, from the minute they cross the border until they are back home to their normal life. it shouldn't be too quickly. it should be gradual.
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and accompanied by a psychologist and experts and social workers and we will follow their instructions because we have no experience in such a situation. for example, how would you tell them, and when, that the family member was killed on a saturday? how do you break the news? when? we have no idea that we will follow the instructions of experts. i think for so many people trying to understand even a small amount of what you've been through for these past few weeks, not knowing what they saw the day or where they are or how they are, how do you put into words how families like you cope with that? i can speak for my family. we are doing a lot of activities to bring the awareness, on the top priority, and not to let the people forget our family. so, we're busy doing that, 0k? meeting the politicians in israel, delegations abroad,
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making all those gestures, memorial, not memorial because they are not dead butjust for their owner and inaudible as we would say and it keeps us busy, keeps up also the energy that we are working for their release, 0k, and notjust sitting back home getting crazy. have you thought about what would happen if some of our family are not included in this first release? and they may remain in gaza? we first release? and they may remain in gaza?— first release? and they may remain in gaza? we expect that. as i mentioned, _ remain in gaza? we expect that. as i mentioned, four _ remain in gaza? we expect that. as i mentioned, four family- as i mentioned, fourfamily members, now they're talking about children and mothers. we have also grandfather and at least what i hear from the media, they're not included. so, we are like mixed emotions. 0n so, we are like mixed emotions. on one hand, we want karen and 0had back home, but we're worried about the effect on abraham and ruthy, if they're
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together. assuming they're together. assuming they�* re together, together. assuming they're together, what will happen when karen and 0had leaves? it's something that — it's like a horror movie. it's something that i never thought that i will be dealing with these kind of issues. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the world health organization has asked china for more details after an increase in respiratory illnesses, and an outbreak of pneumonia, which appears to be affecting mostly children. chinese authorities have admitted the country is experiencing an increase in cases of influenza—like illnesses. china's national health commission blames the lifting of covid—19 measures. finland has put up barriers at four of its border crossings with russia in an attempt to stop the flow of migrants. the crossings have seen a big increase in the number of undocumented asylum seekers, and finland accuses russia of deliberately channeling migrants to their shared
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border. the kremlin has dismissed finland's claims as groundless. new york city mayor eric adams has been accused of sexual assault in court papers filed wednesday night. the summons alleges that the plaintiff was assaulted in 1993 — while they both worked for the city. a spokesperson for mr adams said he does not recall meeting the accuser and vigorously denies the claims. you're live with bbc news. returning now to our top story. we expect a temporary ceasefire to take hold between israel and hamas. ringing up live pictures of the gaza border at the moment. those pictures appear relatively quiet. a short while ago we saw smoke rising and we have heard reports that fighting has continued until the ceasefire takes effect. an important part of the ceasefire will also be aid delivered into
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gaza. we want to discuss that a little bit more now about the humanitarian relief with oui’ our guest joining our guestjoining us. joining me now to discuss the humaniatrian relief expected in the deal is saddam sayyaleh, coordinating aid for the american near east refugee aid in egypt. it is good to have you on the programme. i want to ask first of all about what egypt said, that 130,000 litres of diesel will be delivered daily and trucks will arrive into gaza as well. we know that fuel has been an important aspect of what is missing in gaza so how important will that be? it is very important. _ important will that be? it is very important. we - important will that be? it 3 very important. we welcome the pause but it is far from enough. fuel is a huge problem in gaza. not only to distribute aid but for health services since the beginning of the world —— more. the ceasefire
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will have provide an opportunity marking the first time in 48 days that we can mobilise resources within gaza without fearing for lives. so we are happy that more aid will get in and more fuel will get in but this is far from get in and more fuel will get in but this is farfrom enough. could you help us to understand the logistics of this as well? we know the aid will come across rafah. what have the last day or two been like preparing for this aid to be delivered? it preparing for this aid to be delivered?— preparing for this aid to be delivered? . , , ., ., delivered? it has been a lot. in the past _ delivered? it has been a lot. in the past two _ delivered? it has been a lot. in the past two days - delivered? it has been a lot. in the past two days we - delivered? it has been a lot. in the past two days we are l in the past two days we are talking about 165 trucks only able to get inside gaza. in normal days we talk between 400 to 500 trucks a day. but now we're looking 80 trucks. with the ceasefire, what we have
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been preparing for our our partners to send as many trucks as possible from egypt to the borders so we can get into gaza once the ceasefire starts. a temporary ceasefire is not enough. the last 47 days of violence has pushed every factor necessary to beyond the point of collapse. entire families have died and no—one knows how to even begin treating the psychological trauma that the citizens of gaza have experienced. the response to this assault is not just about reconstructing buildings, homes, hospitals and schools and other structures it is about restoring the lives of people. if i is about restoring the lives of eo - le. . ., , people. if i could “ump in therewefi people. ifi could “ump in there we know _ people. if i could jump in there we know that - people. if i could jump in there we know that the l people. if i couldjump in - there we know that the north of gaza has been especially hard hit. how will aid be trans
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third from rafah in southern gaza to the north? we third from rafah in southern gaza to the north?- gaza to the north? we don't know. gaza to the north? we don't know the _ gaza to the north? we don't know. the north _ gaza to the north? we don't know. the north of- gaza to the north? we don't know. the north of gaza - gaza to the north? we don'tj know. the north of gaza has been disconnected. gaza has been disconnected. gaza has been split into two. north and south. everyone in the north was asked to move to the south. there are still over 800,000 gazans in the north who did not receive any type of aid or support for many days. we don't know the situation and there are stuff in the north of gaza, we don't know their situation of the communication blackout. there is no access to aid, no fuel, everything is shutting down. we hope that in the ceasefire it will allow our staff to be able to distribute aid even beyond south gaza. we can go to the north and distribute this aid. but we will only know once the ceasefire begins.- will only know once the ceasefire begins. will only know once the ceasefire beains. �* , . ceasefire begins. and we expect that to happen _ ceasefire begins. and we expect that to happen in _ ceasefire begins. and we expect that to happen in about - ceasefire begins. and we expect that to happen in about 40 - that to happen in about 40
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minute. talking about fuel and aid generally, could we have an idea about what is most critically needed right now is to mark the general answer would be everything. the top riori would be everything. the top priority right _ would be everything. the top priority right now— would be everything. the top priority right now is - would be everything. the top priority right now is medical. priority right now is medical treatment and fuel. we are looking at 47% of gazans displaced, 1.7 million people. gaza was already one of the most condensed areas in the world and you can imagine when there is a movement of 1.7 million people from the north and displaced to the south, that will put pressure on everything. there is no fuel, the health system is already collapsing. food is scarce that we need food in and we need to clean where the displaced people are staying. we need
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hygiene kit and medical treatment, access to medicine but that can only be done when more aid gets in and fuel is allowed in for all organisations to do what we do which is deliver aid and programmes for displaced people. programmes for displaced eo - le. ~ programmes for displaced --eole. ~ ., ., programmes for displaced --eole. ., ., ., people. we have to leave it there but — people. we have to leave it there but it _ people. we have to leave it there but it has _ people. we have to leave it there but it has been - people. we have to leave it there but it has been good | people. we have to leave it i there but it has been good to get your perspective on co—ordinating aid. thank you forjoining us. on the israeli lebanon border there has been intense shelling. tens of thousands of people on either side have lost their homes. israel has been accused of wilfully targeting fleeing citizens including a family who was hit on their stroke earlier this month. —— israel has been accused of "wilfully targeting" fleeing lebanese civilians, including a family who were hit in an airstrike earlier this month. israel says it's investigating the incident. wyre davies has more from southern lebanon. doing the job along one of the most dangerous frontiers in the world, almost every day
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since hezbollah and israel have been fighting, volunteers have sped towards the aftermath of air strikes and missile attacks. this is a strike on a family home. it happened about 40 minutes ago. what we know is there was a mother, father and several children, and members of the family have been injured and taken to hospital. and this is a lebanese family in a house just across the borderfrom israel, israeli houses there in the distance. we later learned that an elderly woman was killed in the attack, a young girl with serious abdominal wounds among the injured. the local civil defence chief says civilians have increasingly become victims of this war. for us, the biggest concern is about the civilians. we have to save them every time. it's dangerous. yes, it's dangerous. yes, we know. but living in lebanon is dangerous. as we film, an israeli drone cruised the skies above over lebanese territory, where the powerful islamist hezbollah
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organisation is dominant and from where it fires rockets into israel. the drones are used by israel to strike what it says are hezbollah positions. the united nations, which patrols the fragile blue line between israel and lebanon, says that over seven weeks, the conflict he has escalated almost daily. difficult to say because the shelling has been intense. there's thousands of rockets and exchanges of fire on a regular basis. so, when you have such an intensity of the conflict in a very localised area where people are living, of course, there are is the high risk of hitting and killing civilians. is high. the chourfamily, buying supplies for their journey to beirut earlier this month, knew it was too dangerous to remain near the border. minutes later, their car was hit by a strike from an israeli drone. three little girls
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were killed in the back. their grandmother, in the front, was also killed. somehow, the mother sitting in the driver's seat was able to be dragged to safety by her uncle. the organisation human rights watch said what happened here could amount to a war crime. the family's uncle rejects israel's explanation that it struck a suspicious vehicle containing several terrorists. israel also says it is investigating claims there may have been armed civilians in the car. translation: | will always - remember her screams and cries. she was telling me, "get my kids out of the car." she repeated this over and over, until i dragged her out. 14—year—old rimas, taline, who was 12, and ten—year—old lianne only came back to the border to pick up their schoolbooks, says samir ayyoub. school years they
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will never complete. wyre davis, southern lebanon. we will continue to keep our eye on the story for you. thank you for watching bbc news. hello. a change is taking place in our weather. thursday brought temperatures as high as 15 degrees in parts of the uk. i don't think we'll see 15 on friday. colder air has been pushing down from the north. a cold wind, some sunny spells, yes, but scattered showers, some of which will be wintry over high ground in the north. �*we've got high pressure to the west of us, low pressure to the east
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driving these strong northerly winds, bringing that cold air southwards — although, as you can see, we start the day with something a little bit milder across parts of wales, southern and south—western england and the channel islands. colder further north, wintry showers for a time, even to quite low levels in northern scotland. i think the wintriness increasingly becoming confined to the hills. quite a few showers down the east coast of england, too. northern ireland, wales, the south—west starting cloudy, but brightening up as the day wears on. breezy for all, but windy for the east coast of england and most especially for north—east scotland. there'll be a significant wind chill through friday afternoon. so, these are the temperatures on the thermometer, but factor in the strength of the wind, it will feel like freezing across parts of north east scotland, particularly the northern isles. a little bit milder down towards the south—west corner. now, during friday night, winds will slowly ease. it does stay quite breezy for these eastern coasts with a few showers, but with high pressure building from the west, we'll see clearing skies, lighter winds and a really cold night. some places likely to get to —5 celsius as we start saturday morning. quite a widespread frost, but lots of sunshine to start the weekend. still some showers down this east coast. i think it'll still feel quite chilly here. still a fairly brisk wind, but not as windy. top temperatures, 4
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degrees for glasgow, 8 degrees in plymouth. so, yes, a chilly—feeling day, but it will not be as windy. now, as we move into the second half of the weekend, high pressure tries to hold on — a frosty start for some on sunday. but low pressure attempting to push in from the west, so it does look like we'll see some outbreaks of rain spreading eastwards. but eastern parts of england, certainly north east scotland staying largely dry. could see a bit of rain getting into shetland. something milder trying to push in from the south—west. but broadly speaking, actually, next week looks like remaining cold, with spells of rain at times and perhaps a little bit of snow in places. that's all from me. bye for now.
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you are watching bbc news. continuing our coverage of the temporary ceasefire due to take effect between israel and hamas in around 30 minutes' time. this is significant. it's the first pause in fighting since the brutal conflict began nearly seven weeks ago. 50 women and children seized in a deadly attack by hamas last month are expected to be freed over the next four days. these are live
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pictures of gaza. fighting has continued in the lead—up to the ceasefire and you can see the situation looks relatively quiet at the moment, but about 20 minutes ago we saw smoke rising on the horizon. at the moment, things appear quiet but as we said our reporters have told us there has been fighting up until this moment. 0ver fighting up until this moment. over the next 30 minutes or so we will look at what exactly is part of this hostage exchange agreement, both israelis and palestinians are saying about it also looking at what allies are saying with a report from a diplomatic correspondent and towards the end half of this half—hour, and foster will pick up half—hour, and foster will pick up our coverage as the ceasefire begins but we are watching these pictures closely and monitoring of course what happened —— anna foster. around 240 people were taken hostage from southern israel during the deadly attacks on october 7, among them civilians, soldiers, people with disabilities, children and grandparents. 0rla guerin has this report — and a warning, you may find it distressing.

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