�* assistance will not get the sort of assistance on security, governance and technical_ on security, governance and technical help in gaza after the conflict — technical help in gaza after the conflict unless you can convince palestinian authorities, palestinian people _ palestinian authorities, palestinian people and arab states that you have -ot a people and arab states that you have got a longer term horizon towards a two state _ got a longer term horizon towards a two state solution. you got a longer term horizon towards a two state solution.— two state solution. you think that is remotely _ two state solution. you think that is remotely feasible? _ two state solution. you think that is remotely feasible? given - is remotely feasible? given everything that has happened? yes. everything that has happened? yes, ou have everything that has happened? yes, you have got — everything that has happened? yes, you have got to _ everything that has happened? yes, you have got to hope _ everything that has happened? yes, you have got to hope that it is feasible _ you have got to hope that it is feasible. out of a crisis should come — feasible. out of a crisis should come some opportunity. and what is interesting _ come some opportunity. and what is interesting in all of the conversations had come with the jordanians, the egyptians, the n varieties. — jordanians, the egyptians, the n varieties, the saudis, there is an awful— varieties, the saudis, there is an awful lolm — varieties, the saudis, there is an awful lot... a lot of people would accept _ awful lot... a lot of people would accept those four planks of a plan in one _ accept those four planks of a plan in one form — accept those four planks of a plan in one form or another going logelnen _ in one form or another going together-— in one form or another going touether. , ., . ., together. does our current position damaue together. does our current position damage our— together. does our current position damage our friendships _ together. does our current position damage our friendships with - together. does our current position damage our friendships with arab l damage our friendships with arab nations? . ., ,

damage our friendships with arab nations? . . , ., _ nations? fundamentally, iwould say it doesn't. there _ nations? fundamentally, iwould say it doesn't. there is _ nations? fundamentally, iwould say it doesn't. there is stress _ nations? fundamentally, iwould say it doesn't. there is stress there - it doesn't. there is stress there because — it doesn't. there is stress there because of— it doesn't. there is stress there because of course the arab states all want _ because of course the arab states all want to— because of course the arab states all want to see or have called for an immediate ceasefire. they are deerily— an immediate ceasefire. they are deeply concerned, as i am, about what _ deeply concerned, as i am, about what is _ deeply concerned, as i am, about what is happening in gaza and the loss of— what is happening in gaza and the loss of life — what is happening in gaza and the loss of life. and so to sit here and argue _ loss of life. and so to sit here and argue that — loss of life. and so to sit here and argue that it— loss of life. and so to sit here and argue that it has no effect on our relations, — argue that it has no effect on our relations, the fact that we have said we — relations, the fact that we have said we want a sustainable ceasefire, i think would be stretching it. but i think they understand that we are not being sort of— understand that we are not being sort of deliberately difficult or obtuse — sort of deliberately difficult or obtuse about this, we are just very classically, — obtuse about this, we are just very classically, british common sense, practical— classically, british common sense, practical people, and i cannot see a comprehensive ceasefire coming in now while — comprehensive ceasefire coming in now while hamas is still able to launch— now while hamas is still able to launch rockets out of gaza. so while they might — launch rockets out of gaza. so while they might be a bit disappointed with our— they might be a bit disappointed with our position, i think they understand and recognise that it

does _ understand and recognise that it does at — understand and recognise that it does at least make internal logical sense _ does at least make internal logical sense. and i think they will work with us, — sense. and i think they will work with us, there is relationships a very— with us, there is relationships a very long—standing as you know and they will— very long—standing as you know and they will work with us. i�*m very long-standing as you know and they will work with us.— they will work with us. i'm going to brina in they will work with us. i'm going to bring in dan _ they will work with us. i'm going to bring in dan at _ they will work with us. i'm going to bring in dan at that _ they will work with us. i'm going to bring in dan at that point. - they will work with us. i'm going to bring in dan at that point. just - they will work with us. i'm going to bring in dan at that point. just to l bring in dan at that point. just to follow on from _ bring in dan at that point. just to follow on from those _ bring in dan at that point. just to follow on from those points, - bring in dan at that point. just to i follow on from those points, joseph burrell— follow on from those points, joseph burrell has — follow on from those points, joseph burrell has stated _ follow on from those points, joseph burrell has stated that _ follow on from those points, joseph burrell has stated that eu _ follow on from those points, joseph burrell has stated that eu position i burrell has stated that eu position on gaza _ burrell has stated that eu position on gaza - — burrell has stated that eu position on gaza — israel— burrell has stated that eu position on gaza — israel has _ burrell has stated that eu position on gaza — israel has damaged - burrell has stated that eu position on gaza — israel has damaged the | on gaza — israel has damaged the eu's relationship— on gaza — israel has damaged the eu's relationship with _ on gaza — israel has damaged the eu's relationship with the - on gaza — israel has damaged the eu's relationship with the global. eu's relationship with the global south, _ eu's relationship with the global south, and — eu's relationship with the global south, and us— eu's relationship with the global south, and us cables _ eu's relationship with the global south, and us cables have - eu's relationship with the global south, and us cables have saidi eu's relationship with the global. south, and us cables have said the same _ south, and us cables have said the same for— south, and us cables have said the same for the — south, and us cables have said the same for the us. _ south, and us cables have said the same for the us. do _ south, and us cables have said the same for the us. do you _ south, and us cables have said the same for the us. do you think- south, and us cables have said the same for the us. do you think that| same for the us. do you think that is the _ same for the us. do you think that is the same — same for the us. do you think that is the same for— same for the us. do you think that is the same for the _ same for the us. do you think that is the same for the uk? _ same for the us. do you think that is the same for the uk?— is the same for the uk? there are countries in _ is the same for the uk? there are countries in the _ is the same for the uk? there are countries in the global— is the same for the uk? there are countries in the global south - is the same for the uk? there are countries in the global south who | countries in the global south who want _ countries in the global south who want an— countries in the global south who want an immediate ceasefire, disagree _ want an immediate ceasefire, disagree with people that don't say that. disagree with people that don't say that and _ disagree with people that don't say that. and so that means you are in disagreement and so perhaps your standing _ disagreement and so perhaps your standing will suffer in some way, but i _ standing will suffer in some way, but i don't — standing will suffer in some way, but i don't think we should just accept — but i don't think we should just accept that and do nothing about it. ithink— accept that and do nothing about it. i think we _ accept that and do nothing about it. i think we have to make our case very— i think we have to make our case very vigorously, as i do. i know when _ very vigorously, as i do. i know when i — very vigorously, as i do. i know when i meet south african foreign ministers, — when i meet south african foreign ministers, i would say i want this

conflict _ ministers, i would say i want this conflict to— ministers, i would say i want this conflict to end as soon as possible, i conflict to end as soon as possible, i don't _ conflict to end as soon as possible, i don't want — conflict to end as soon as possible, i don't want it to go on for longer than _ i don't want it to go on for longer than necessary, but he ceasefire has -ot than necessary, but he ceasefire has got to _ than necessary, but he ceasefire has got to be _ than necessary, but he ceasefire has got to be sustainable. that means you cannot — got to be sustainable. that means you cannot have hamas in power, able to launch _ you cannot have hamas in power, able to launch rockets, not releasing hostages~ — to launch rockets, not releasing hostages. do to launch rockets, not releasing hostaues. ,, to launch rockets, not releasing hostaues. i. , to launch rockets, not releasing hostaues. ,, , . hostages. do you believe that military intervention - hostages. do you believe that military intervention can - hostages. do you believe that. military intervention can defeat hamas? — military intervention can defeat hamas? l— military intervention can defeat hamas? ~ . . hamas? i think that what the israelis are _ hamas? i think that what the israelis are trying _ hamas? i think that what the israelis are trying to - hamas? i think that what the israelis are trying to do - hamas? i think that what the israelis are trying to do is, i hamas? i think that what the i israelis are trying to do is, they are trying — israelis are trying to do is, they are trying to get rid of tomas's ability— are trying to get rid of tomas's ability to— are trying to get rid of tomas's ability to launch further attacks on lsrael _ ability to launch further attacks on lsrael i_ ability to launch further attacks on israel. i think you can do that. i would _ israel. i think you can do that. i would have _ israel. i think you can do that. i would have differences with the way they have _ would have differences with the way they have gone about it. can you defeat _ they have gone about it. can you defeat an — they have gone about it. can you defeat an ideology through armed intervention? no, defeating an ideology— intervention? no, defeating an ideology is going to take a lot of other— ideology is going to take a lot of other things, ideology is going to take a lot of otherthings, including progress towards — otherthings, including progress towards a — otherthings, including progress towards a political solution to show that politics can work and deliver things~ _

that politics can work and deliver things. but i think if you take the argument — things. but i think if you take the argument there is nothing more that can be _ argument there is nothing more that can be done — argument there is nothing more that can be done militarily, you just have _ can be done militarily, you just have to — can be done militarily, you just have to freeze things where we are now: _ have to freeze things where we are now. you _ have to freeze things where we are now, you have then got to make an argument. — now, you have then got to make an argument, well, how do you get the reniainder_ argument, well, how do you get the remainder of hamas out of gaza, get rid of— remainder of hamas out of gaza, get rid of the _ remainder of hamas out of gaza, get rid of the rocket launchers? and my challenge _ rid of the rocket launchers? and my challenge to those in the global south _ challenge to those in the global south or— challenge to those in the global south or friends in the arab state is to— south or friends in the arab state is to say. — south or friends in the arab state is to say, there is a ceasefire tomorrow. _ is to say, there is a ceasefire tomorrow, how do you get rid of hanras's— tomorrow, how do you get rid of hamas's capacity to launch more rockets? — hamas's capacity to launch more rockets? ., , ., ~ ., hamas's capacity to launch more rockets? ., ~ ., . rockets? how will you know that moment has _ rockets? how will you know that moment has come _ rockets? how will you know that moment has come as _ rockets? how will you know that moment has come as a - rockets? how will you know that moment has come as a british i rockets? how will you know that - moment has come as a british foreign secretary? _ moment has come as a british foreign secretary? is— moment has come as a british foreign secretary? is it — moment has come as a british foreign secretary? is it your— moment has come as a british foreign secretary? is it your hope _ moment has come as a british foreign secretary? is it your hope that - moment has come as a british foreign secretary? is it your hope that the - secretary? is it your hope that the uk will— secretary? is it your hope that the uk will be — secretary? is it your hope that the uk will be voting _ secretary? is it your hope that the uk will be voting for— secretary? is it your hope that the uk will be voting for a _ secretary? is it your hope that the uk will be voting for a ceasefire i secretary? is it your hope that the uk will be voting for a ceasefire atj uk will be voting for a ceasefire at the un _ uk will be voting for a ceasefire at the un in— uk will be voting for a ceasefire at the un in the _ uk will be voting for a ceasefire at the un in the near— uk will be voting for a ceasefire at the un in the nearfuture? - uk will be voting for a ceasefire at the un in the nearfuture? [- uk will be voting for a ceasefire at the un in the near future? i would hoe the un in the near future? i would ho -e that the un in the near future? i would hope that we _ the un in the near future? i would hope that we will _ the un in the near future? i would hope that we will be _ the un in the near future? i would hope that we will be voting... - the un in the near future? i would| hope that we will be voting... what we did _ hope that we will be voting... what we did is— hope that we will be voting... what we did is we — hope that we will be voting... what we did is we defined what we wanted as a sustainable ceasefire. the parameter said that at prime minister's questions, and within a few weeks— minister's questions, and within a few weeks that was... not unanimous agreement, _ few weeks that was... not unanimous agreement, but without a veto. so

that is— agreement, but without a veto. so that is our— agreement, but without a veto. so that is our position. yes, i look forward — that is our position. yes, i look forward to— that is our position. yes, i look forward to the moment when this conflict _ forward to the moment when this conflict is — forward to the moment when this conflict is over. and of course, we spend _ conflict is over. and of course, we spend a _ conflict is over. and of course, we spend a lot — conflict is over. and of course, we spend a lot of time asking what israel— spend a lot of time asking what israel should do next to bring this to an _ israel should do next to bring this to an end. — israel should do next to bring this to an end, we should also spend a nanosecond — to an end, we should also spend a nanosecond saying, if hamas wanted, they could _ nanosecond saying, if hamas wanted, they could end this tomorrow, they could _ they could end this tomorrow, they could lay— they could end this tomorrow, they could lay down their arms, they could _ could lay down their arms, they could leave gaza. they are the ones prolonging — could leave gaza. they are the ones prolonging this conflict in many ways _ prolonging this conflict in many wa s. ., . . . . , prolonging this conflict in many was. ., . . . . , . ways. you have warned against a ceasefire that _ ways. you have warned against a ceasefire that quickly _ ways. you have warned against a ceasefire that quickly collapses l ceasefire that quickly collapses into further— ceasefire that quickly collapses into further violence, _ ceasefire that quickly collapses into further violence, but - ceasefire that quickly collapses into further violence, but there ceasefire that quickly collapses . into further violence, but there is a strong — into further violence, but there is a strong feeling _ into further violence, but there is a strong feeling in _ into further violence, but there is a strong feeling in the _ a strong feeling in the international- a strong feeling in the . international community a strong feeling in the - international community and a strong feeling in the _ international community and the public— international community and the public that— international community and the public that the _ international community and the public that the longer— international community and the public that the longer violence . public that the longer violence continues— public that the longer violence continues and _ public that the longer violence continues and the _ public that the longer violence continues and the further- public that the longer violence i continues and the further piece is away. _ continues and the further piece is away, we — continues and the further piece is away, we are _ continues and the further piece is away. we are going _ continues and the further piece is away, we are going to— continues and the further piece is away, we are going to struggle i continues and the further piece isj away, we are going to struggle to -et away, we are going to struggle to get to— away, we are going to struggle to get to this — away, we are going to struggle to get to this l— away, we are going to struggle to get to this— get to this. i don't disagree with that. get to this. i don't disagree with that- what _ get to this. i don't disagree with that- what i _ get to this. i don't disagree with that. what i would _ get to this. i don't disagree with that. what i would say, - get to this. i don't disagree with that. what i would say, first i get to this. i don't disagree with that. what i would say, first of. that. what i would say, first of all, that. what i would say, first of all. i_ that. what i would say, first of all, i would that. what i would say, first of all, iwould be in that. what i would say, first of all, i would be in favour of humanitarian poses, including right now _ humanitarian poses, including right now let's — humanitarian poses, including right now. let's have another pause to try

and get _ now. let's have another pause to try and get hostages out and to get more aid in _ and get hostages out and to get more aid in i_ and get hostages out and to get more aid in. iwould be happy for us to do this— aid in. iwould be happy for us to do this now _ aid in. iwould be happy for us to do this now. what i'm saying about sustainable — do this now. what i'm saying about sustainable ceasefire is it does need _ sustainable ceasefire is it does need hamas to no longer be capable of launching attacks into israel, otherwise — of launching attacks into israel, otherwise it is not sustainable. and i otherwise it is not sustainable. and i hope _ otherwise it is not sustainable. and i hope that— otherwise it is not sustainable. and i hope that when it comes as quickly as possible — i hope that when it comes as quickly as possible. just i hope that when it comes as quickly as possible-— as possible. just to take you back for a moment. — as possible. just to take you back for a moment, what _ as possible. just to take you back for a moment, what is _ as possible. just to take you back for a moment, what is the - as possible. just to take you back for a moment, what is the uk's i for a moment, what is the uk's current legal position? {lam for a moment, what is the uk's current legal position? our position is that israel _ current legal position? our position is that israel is _ current legal position? our position is that israel is fighting _ current legal position? our position is that israel is fighting a _ is that israel is fighting a campaign against hamas. we have to check— campaign against hamas. we have to check regularly whether that is in compliance with international humanitarian law and assess that. i don't _ humanitarian law and assess that. i don't think— humanitarian law and assess that. i don't think israel regards itself as an occupying force. but whether that is correct, _ an occupying force. but whether that is correct, i— an occupying force. but whether that is correct, i would want to take legal— is correct, i would want to take legal advice. is correct, i would want to take legaladvice. because is correct, i would want to take legal advice. because this comes to this issue _ legal advice. because this comes to this issue about aid, where i think israel— this issue about aid, where i think israel needs to do more, a lot more

to get— israel needs to do more, a lot more to get more — israel needs to do more, a lot more to get more aid into gaza, which perhaps— to get more aid into gaza, which perhaps we can come onto. we know that israel does _ perhaps we can come onto. we know that israel does not _ perhaps we can come onto. we know that israel does not consider- perhaps we can come onto. we know that israel does not consider itself. that israel does not consider itself to be an occupying power, but ritish law currently does consider gaza to be an occupied territory. l law currently does consider gaza to be an occupied territory.— be an occupied territory. i don't know the precise _ be an occupied territory. i don't know the precise legal - be an occupied territory. i don't i know the precise legal definition. i know the precise legal definition. [ think know the precise legal definition. think we know the precise legal definition. i think we all know that the foreign office doesn't know. taste think we all know that the foreign office doesn't know.— think we all know that the foreign office doesn't know. we describe the territories as — office doesn't know. we describe the territories as the _ office doesn't know. we describe the territories as the occupied _ territories as the occupied palestinian _ territories as the occupied palestinian territories. i territories as the occupied i palestinian territories. that is a descriptor _ palestinian territories. that is a descriptor. which— palestinian territories. that is a descriptor. which give - palestinian territories. that is a descriptor. which give you i palestinian territories. that is a i descriptor. which give you written advice _ descriptor. which give you written advice on — descriptor. which give you written advice on the _ descriptor. which give you written advice on the legal— descriptor. which give you written advice on the legal position. i descriptor. which give you written advice on the legal position. [- advice on the legal position. think what the chair is advice on the legal position.|j think what the chair is asking advice on the legal position.“ think what the chair is asking is advice on the legal position._ think what the chair is asking is do we consider— think what the chair is asking is do we consider gaza to be occupied niilitarily— we consider gaza to be occupied militarily at the moment? i�*m we consider gaza to be occupied militarily at the moment? i'm asking for the british _ militarily at the moment? i'm asking for the british government's - militarily at the moment? i'm asking for the british government's legal i for the british government's legal definition. because as i understand it, there is no question that under british law, and i will come onto the un security council on which we have based our legal position, gaza is an occupied territory. and therefore, from that, israel does

have an obligation as an occupying power, whether they consider it to be or not, british law does state that. i would consider it is quite fundamental that we understand what we are operating from. this fundamental that we understand what we are operating from.— we are operating from. as you know, we are operating from. as you know, we refer to — we are operating from. as you know, we refer to it — we are operating from. as you know, we refer to it as _ we are operating from. as you know, we refer to it as the _ we are operating from. as you know, we refer to it as the occupied - we refer to it as the occupied palestine _ we refer to it as the occupied palestine territories, but obviously gaza was _ palestine territories, but obviously gaza was left... but i think the question— gaza was left... but i think the question you're asking now is what israel— question you're asking now is what lsrael has — question you're asking now is what israel has done, is that technically an occupation. the point i would make _ an occupation. the point i would make is, — an occupation. the point i would make is, look, whether or not they are occupying, they are de facto occupying — are occupying, they are de facto occupying gaza, when it comes to this issue — occupying gaza, when it comes to this issue of aid delivery we need them _ this issue of aid delivery we need them to— this issue of aid delivery we need them to do— this issue of aid delivery we need them to do more. at the moment, we are about _ them to do more. at the moment, we are about 150 — them to do more. at the moment, we are about 150 trucks a day getting into gaza, — are about 150 trucks a day getting into gaza, we need to be closer to 500~ _ into gaza, we need to be closer to 500~ every — into gaza, we need to be closer to 500. every day that we are not closer— 500. every day that we are not closer to — 500. every day that we are not closer to 500, we are going to have more _ closer to 500, we are going to have more people going hungry, getting disease _ more people going hungry, getting disease. there is a danger of their being _ disease. there is a danger of their being really widespread hunger. at the moment, something like 90% of

gazans— the moment, something like 90% of gazans are _ the moment, something like 90% of gazans are getting less than one meal— gazans are getting less than one meal a _ gazans are getting less than one meal a day, and so i have set out with— meal a day, and so i have set out with the — meal a day, and so i have set out with the israelis a whole set of things— with the israelis a whole set of things that could happen, that they could _ things that could happen, that they could do— things that could happen, that they could do that would make a real difference. make sure the checking point _ difference. make sure the checking point is _ difference. make sure the checking point is open 24 hours a day. make sure that _ point is open 24 hours a day. make sure that aid — point is open 24 hours a day. make sure that aid convoys that are coming — sure that aid convoys that are coming acrossjordan sure that aid convoys that are coming across jordan have sure that aid convoys that are coming acrossjordan have unhindered access— coming acrossjordan have unhindered access into _ coming acrossjordan have unhindered access into gaza. look at opening so that aid _ access into gaza. look at opening so that aid can — access into gaza. look at opening so that aid can arrive by sea, go from ashdod _ that aid can arrive by sea, go from ashdod or— that aid can arrive by sea, go from ashdod or even better go into the erez crossing. crucially, none of these _ erez crossing. crucially, none of these things will work and that's inside _ these things will work and that's inside gaza you actually have un personnel— inside gaza you actually have un personnel trucks and fuel capable of taking _ personnel trucks and fuel capable of taking the _ personnel trucks and fuel capable of taking the aid around gaza. and again. _ taking the aid around gaza. and again, only the israelis can really fix that— again, only the israelis can really fix that because there is a bunch of these _ fix that because there is a bunch of these applications that are outstanding for people to be there, there _ outstanding for people to be there, there is— outstanding for people to be there, there is a _ outstanding for people to be there, there is a need for armoured cars for that— there is a need for armoured cars for that aid — there is a need for armoured cars for that aid to be distributed and taken _ for that aid to be distributed and taken around in, and that needs to be fixed _ taken around in, and that needs to be fixed and it needs to be fixed

urgently — be fixed and it needs to be fixed urgently l— be fixed and it needs to be fixed uraentl . ., . be fixed and it needs to be fixed uraentl. ., . . be fixed and it needs to be fixed uraentl . ., . . . urgently. i would also pay credit at this oint urgently. i would also pay credit at this point to _ urgently. i would also pay credit at this point to foreign _ urgently. i would also pay credit at this point to foreign secretary i urgently. i would also pay credit at this point to foreign secretary forl this point to foreign secretary for what the uk government has clearly done on aid. there is clearly much progress. butjust for progress. but just for clarification, progress. butjust for clarification, your words, gaza is de facto occupied and therefore israel has obligations as an occupying power, which you say you accept. occupying power, which you say you acce t. �* ., occupying power, which you say you accet. �* ., . . , ., accept. i'm not a lawyer. i need to be careful- — accept. i'm not a lawyer. i need to be careful- l _ accept. i'm not a lawyer. i need to be careful. i am _ accept. i'm not a lawyer. i need to be careful. i am saying _ accept. i'm not a lawyer. i need to be careful. i am saying they i accept. i'm not a lawyer. i need to be careful. i am saying they have. be careful. i am saying they have responsibilities, to make sure that aid gets— responsibilities, to make sure that aid gets through. it is not solely them~ _ aid gets through. it is not solely them i— aid gets through. it is not solely them. i have been to allah read myself — them. i have been to allah read myself. there are problems with egyptian — myself. there are problems with egyptian democracy, problem with overseeing logistics, what aid is going _ overseeing logistics, what aid is going where. fundamentally, there are some _ going where. fundamentally, there are some things the israelis need to do because — are some things the israelis need to do because ultimately they have a lot of— do because ultimately they have a lot of responsibility for what is happening in gaza. i am lot of responsibility for what is happening in gaza. iam not lot of responsibility for what is happening in gaza. i am not giving you a— happening in gaza. i am not giving you a legal— happening in gaza. i am not giving you a legal definition because i'm not a _ you a legal definition because i'm not a lawyer. you a legal definition because i'm rrot a lawyer-— you a legal definition because i'm nota la er. , . ., . , not a lawyer. they are not currently doinu all not a lawyer. they are not currently doing all they _ not a lawyer. they are not currently doing all they are _ not a lawyer. they are not currently doing all they are doing _ not a lawyer. they are not currently doing all they are doing on - not a lawyer. they are not currently doing all they are doing on aid. i doing all they are doing on aid. thank you. graham? i

doing all they are doing on aid. thank you. graham?— doing all they are doing on aid. thank you. graham? i “ust want to ask a quick — thank you. graham? i “ust want to ask a quick question i thank you. graham? i just want to ask a quick question more - thank you. graham? i just want to ask a quick question more on i thank you. graham? i just want to ask a quick question more on the i ask a quick question more on the home front. i represent a very large jewish community, a very large community. both communities are both angry and fearful about what is happening in israel and gaza. is there anything as foreign secretary you can do to help the tension that those communities are feeling at the moment? are you aware of the impact thatis moment? are you aware of the impact that is having on those communities? i am. i think everybody can feel it, whether— i am. i think everybody can feel it, whether they are living in london or in your— whether they are living in london or in your constituency or in my old constituency. you feel it in the conversations you have. i think one of the _ conversations you have. i think one of the most — conversations you have. i think one of the most important things with both communities but perhaps particularly with british muslims is

to demonstrate that we are an aid superpower that is doing what an aid superpower that is doing what an aid superpower should be doing, and that is getting _ superpower should be doing, and that is getting aid into gaza. i have 'ust is getting aid into gaza. i have just spelt _ is getting aid into gaza. i have just spelt out. we have got the material — just spelt out. we have got the material. we have already delivered 74 tonnes _ material. we have already delivered 74 tonnes of it. we can do much more _ 74 tonnes of it. we can do much more i— 74 tonnes of it. we can do much more ithink— 74 tonnes of it. we can do much more. i think that is hugely reassuring. i think with the jewish community— reassuring. i think with the jewish community it is partly about demonstrating an understanding of 'ust demonstrating an understanding of just what— demonstrating an understanding of just what a catastrophic event, an appalling — just what a catastrophic event, an appalling event the 7th of october was. appalling event the 7th of october was i_ appalling event the 7th of october was. i think sometimes people can forget _ was. i think sometimes people can forget because of what has happened subsequentlyjust the scale, if you look at _ subsequentlyjust the scale, if you look at the — subsequentlyjust the scale, if you look at the size of israel, to lose over— look at the size of israel, to lose over 1400 — look at the size of israel, to lose over 1400 people in one day, and there _ over1400 people in one day, and there is— over 1400 people in one day, and there is horrific circumstances. and i there is horrific circumstances. and i have _ there is horrific circumstances. and i have seen— there is horrific circumstances. and i have seen with my own eyes where children— i have seen with my own eyes where children were shot in front of their parents. _ children were shot in front of their parents, where people were raped, blood _ parents, where people were raped, blood on _ parents, where people were raped, blood on the floor and bullet holes in the _ blood on the floor and bullet holes in the wall. it is something you are never— in the wall. it is something you are never going — in the wall. it is something you are never going to forget. this happened to a country— never going to forget. this happened to a country that is a friend of ours— to a country that is a friend of ours and _ to a country that is a friend of ours and a _ to a country that is a friend of ours and a peace people. and showing

an understanding that we understand why they— an understanding that we understand why they feel so strongly about that event _ why they feel so strongly about that event and _ why they feel so strongly about that event and trying to put ourselves in their shoes — event and trying to put ourselves in their shoes i think it's really important. their shoes i think it's really important-— their shoes i think it's really imortant. . , . . , important. can i 'ust ask a number of ruick important. can i 'ust ask a number of quick factual— important. can ijust ask a number of quick factual questions. - important. can ijust ask a number of quick factual questions. how i important. can i just ask a number i of quick factual questions. how many uk citizens remain in gaza, and in particular in the north of gaza? in terms of the number of citizens in gaza, _ terms of the number of citizens in gaza, i_ terms of the number of citizens in gaza, i am — terms of the number of citizens in gaza, i am aware we have got a lot out and _ gaza, i am aware we have got a lot out and the — gaza, i am aware we have got a lot out and the israeli, egyptian and authorities within gaza have been helpful— authorities within gaza have been helpful in— authorities within gaza have been helpful in doing that. can authorities within gaza have been helpful in doing that.— helpful in doing that. can you be secific? helpful in doing that. can you be specific? i _ helpful in doing that. can you be specific? i know _ helpful in doing that. can you be specific? i know there _ helpful in doing that. can you be specific? i know there are - helpful in doing that. can you be specific? i know there are two i specific? i know there are two who want to get — specific? i know there are two who want to get out — specific? i know there are two who want to get out who _ specific? i know there are two who want to get out who don't - specific? i know there are two who want to get out who don't have i specific? i know there are two who | want to get out who don't have any security— want to get out who don't have any security clearance problems but you have not— security clearance problems but you have not yet got out. but i do not have _ have not yet got out. but i do not have but— have not yet got out. but i do not have but philip is going to find billy— have but philip is going to find billy number, i think there are still quite _ billy number, i think there are still quite a number of british nationals— still quite a number of british nationals or dual nationals who are in gaza _ nationals or dual nationals who are in gaza but— nationals or dual nationals who are in gaza but you haven't asked to leave _ in gaza but you haven't asked to leave. ~ ., i. . in gaza but you haven't asked to leave. ~ ., . , ., leave. we cannot give you a precise number.

leave. we cannot give you a precise number- alex _ leave. we cannot give you a precise number. alex chalk _ leave. we cannot give you a precise number. alex chalk gave _ leave. we cannot give you a precise number. alex chalk gave precise i number. alex chalk gave precise numbers on _ number. alex chalk gave precise numbers on the _ number. alex chalk gave precise numbers on the 7th _ number. alex chalk gave precise numbers on the 7th of— number. alex chalk gave precise | numbers on the 7th of november number. alex chalk gave precise i numbers on the 7th of november when he said _ numbers on the 7th of november when he said 100 _ numbers on the 7th of november when he said 100 had — numbers on the 7th of november when he said 100 had left _ numbers on the 7th of november when he said 100 had left and _ numbers on the 7th of november when he said 100 had left and 100 _ numbers on the 7th of november when he said 100 had left and 100 had - he said 100 had left and 100 had stayed — he said 100 had left and 100 had stayed 1— he said 100 had left and 100 had sta ed. ~ ~,, he said 100 had left and 100 had sta ed. ~ t, stayed. i think most of those hundred have _ stayed. i think most of those hundred have left. _ stayed. i think most of those hundred have left. i- stayed. i think most of those hundred have left. ithink- stayed. i think most of those | hundred have left. i think the stayed. i think most of those - hundred have left. i think the ones we don't _ hundred have left. i think the ones we don't know about having declared. there _ we don't know about having declared. there is_ we don't know about having declared. there is to _ we don't know about having declared. there is to be no have declared, 50% have left? _ there is to be no have declared, 50% have left? a, ., ,': :: :: ., there is to be no have declared, 50% have left? a, ., g; :: :: ., ., have left? more than 300 now have left with our — have left? more than 300 now have left with our assistance. _ have left? more than 300 now have left with our assistance. i _ have left? more than 300 now have left with our assistance. i think - left with our assistance. i think the crucial _ left with our assistance. i think the crucial number _ left with our assistance. i think the crucial number is, - left with our assistance. i think the crucial number is, how- left with our assistance. i think i the crucial number is, how many left with our assistance. i think - the crucial number is, how many are there _ the crucial number is, how many are there that _ the crucial number is, how many are there that are british nationals that want to leave and haven't left, and i_ that want to leave and haven't left, and i think— that want to leave and haven't left, and i think that is a very small number — and i think that is a very small number. and i think it is worth recognising the department is doing a good _ recognising the department is doing a good job in difficult circumstances. there is also quite a number— circumstances. there is also quite a number of— circumstances. there is also quite a number of people who have links to the uk, _ number of people who have links to the uk, they might have the right to remain— the uk, they might have the right to remain irr— the uk, they might have the right to remain in the uk, they might be commonwealth citizens from other countries _ commonwealth citizens from other countries who do not have representation in the region but we do who— representation in the region but we do who we — representation in the region but we do who we are helping to get out. and there — do who we are helping to get out. and there are also journalists and the families ofjournalists who have a british— the families ofjournalists who have a british connection as it were,

because — a british connection as it were, because they might work for the bbc or who _ because they might work for the bbc or who were helping to get out, not to come _ or who were helping to get out, not to come to — or who were helping to get out, not to come to britain necessarily but to come to britain necessarily but to carry _ to come to britain necessarily but to carry on — to come to britain necessarily but to carry on their work from egypt or elsewhere — to carry on their work from egypt or elsewhere. can to carry on their work from egypt or elsewhere. . , ., to carry on their work from egypt or elsewhere. ., , ., , to carry on their work from egypt or elsewhere-— to carry on their work from egypt or elsewhere. ., i. , ,, . . ., elsewhere. can you be specific about the number — elsewhere. can you be specific about the number of _ elsewhere. can you be specific about the number of uk _ elsewhere. can you be specific about the number of uk nationals - elsewhere. can you be specific about the number of uk nationals who - the number of uk nationals who remain? , ., ., �* , remain? yes, there are two british nationals. there _ remain? yes, there are two british nationals. there are _ remain? yes, there are two british nationals. there are two _ remain? yes, there are two british nationals. there are two british - nationals. there are two british nationals— nationals. there are two british nationals that remain as hostages. i don't _ nationals that remain as hostages. i don't want _ nationals that remain as hostages. i don't want to make any further comment— don't want to make any further comment on them. there are also of coursem _ comment on them. there are also of coursem do— comment on them. there are also of course... ~ ., y comment on them. there are also of course... ~ ., , ., ., course... do we know they are alive? i 'ust course... do we know they are alive? ijust don't — course... do we know they are alive? i just don't want _ course... do we know they are alive? i just don't want to _ course... do we know they are alive? i just don't want to say _ course... do we know they are alive? i just don't want to say any _ course... do we know they are alive? i just don't want to say any more. - ijust don't want to say any more. we don't — ijust don't want to say any more. we don't have any information to share _ we don't have any information to share with — we don't have any information to share with you. there are also, of course, _ share with you. there are also, of course, people very connected to britain _ we are doing everything we can to help in— we are doing everything we can to help in those cases. how we are doing everything we can to help in those cases.— help in those cases. how many hostaaes help in those cases. how many hostages have _ help in those cases. how many hostages have we _ help in those cases. how many hostages have we managed - help in those cases. how many hostages have we managed to | help in those cases. how many i hostages have we managed to get help in those cases. how many - hostages have we managed to get back to the uk? n

hostages have we managed to get back to the uk? ., �*