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tonight, the former president took a victory lap with two of his former rivals, vivek ramaswamy and senator tim scott, in tow. trump's message to his supporters, the republican contest will soon be over. this is an evening that i will not forget because it is the third time but more importantly, i think it is going to be the most important time. we want. but nikki haley says the race "is far from over", vowing to continue her fight for the republican nomination in her home state of south carolina, which primary is just a few weeks away. new hampshire is first in the nation, it is not the last in the nation.—
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the nation. (cheering). this race _ the nation. (cheering). this race is _ the nation. (cheering). this race is far _ the nation. (cheering). this race is far from - the nation. (cheering). | this race is far from over. this race is farfrom over. there are dozens of states left to go. there are dozens of states left to no. , ., . to go. cheering let the voice be heard- _ to go. cheering let the voice be heard. the _ to go. cheering let the voice be heard. the next _ to go. cheering let the voice be heard. the next one - to go. cheering let the voice be heard. the next one is - to go. cheering let the voice be heard. the next one is my| be heard. the next one is my sweet state _ be heard. the next one is my sweet state of _ be heard. the next one is my sweet state of south - be heard. the next one is my| sweet state of south carolina! let's go now to helena humphrey. she's watching the results as they come in. as you know we heard nikki haley say this race is far from over. despite the fact we know she lost. this is probably some of the calculations the nikki haley campaign has gone through. it is the margin of loss, essentially how bad is the bleed in terms of voters. what you can see right now, 50% of precincts counted but still 54% to 43%. an 11 point difference. not as bad as the
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polls which suggested 19 points. essentially keeping up to around 10% would have been some pathway perhaps to carry on. a difficult decision perhaps for the campaign. calculation to make but let's take a look at where she did not manage to capture the electorate she needed to. focus on these core counties here because you have 75% of all votes in this area. we take a look at similar rockingham, massachusetts is just down here. boston, a lot of commuters in recent years. this area has tended to be going to more liberal votes. you want to see that behringer and the results so nikki haley has a good night and yet you can still see 11 percentage points behind at a stage when not all votes are counted. not able to count on that more liberal vote. not able to count on that more liberalvote. similarstory to hillsborough as well. still the 11 percentage point difference.
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you have manchester, big open area, some were camping has been putting a lot of time and attention. if you go to like grafton. dartmouth college here in hanover, we talk about nikki haley doing better with college educated voters, first—time voters and perhaps those at dartmouth college and yet not bearing out in the results. chatter for a while was lean towards nikki haley, not all the votes counted yet, still tight. we have 1.8 percentage points in but king's college is there as well. again, that kind of college—educated university boat. generally what you are seeing in this area, as you go north, it tends to become more conservative. you have somewhere like, as county and you can see the lever donald trump extended considerably stop 60% compared to 36%. one thing i will say, perhaps this
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should not be a massive surprise. 2016 looked like this. donald trump at the time despite the fact his campaign was not as organised on the ground didn't manage to capture all the counties with a considerable lead. 30 percentage points. perhaps the haley camping thinking with the difference of 11 percentage points still gives her some reason to go on to south carolina. most analysts saying something like 15%—20% could be the knockout blow for her campaign. not all the votes are tallied at this stage. we will continue to monitor it. thank you so much. live to our correspondent gary o'donoghue at a watch party in manchester. good to see you again. the results are little by little trickling in. bit of a clearer picture. tell us tell people they are watching these
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results. i think they all took in donald trump speech which was quite extraordinary. when you compare that to be tone he took in iowa after his victory there, this one was full of, well, he was pretty unhappy, wasn't he? and directing a lot of that unhappiness and nikki haley, conquerand of that unhappiness and nikki haley, conquer and impostor and suggesting she claimed victory which of course she had not. she conceded in that speech. pretty unhappy clearly that she is staying in the race and staying in the race true to her home state in south carolina which is a big risk for her as well. they are spending a lot of money, $4 million worth of advertising, there will be a rally tomorrow night. she clearly means tuesday. but something clearly that has donald trump very unhappy tonight. extraordinary in attacking the primary process
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here. attacking the republican governor as well. in some ways attacking those undeclared voters, the more moderate voters, the more moderate voters who we might need in the general election quite honestly. new hampshire has four electoral votes, electoral couege four electoral votes, electoral college votes. he might need those people. sort of accusing them of being all democrats right now. might not be the best way to keep them on site for the general. going into this primary wondering what success would look like the nikki haley. does the result we received so far translate to a success for her? i don't think why does it. it will depend on where we end up. i think single digits would have been a clear, clearly good result for her. a win would have been upset, no question about that. new hampshire does upsets, we know that, going
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back to 2000 and john mccain and george w bush. singledigit margin would have good. it looks like it will be more than that, more in line with perhaps what some of the polls were showing beforehand. ithink they will scrutinise the detail of that where she is winning voters. we need a big chunk of the voters are undeclared more moderate voters and we know those voters across the nation are important in the general election much more than they are in a party primary. there are in a party primary. there are some arguments to be made there on her behalf for continuing and for people to continue to supporter. as far as donald trump is concerned, he gets his delegates tonight, carries on, elevatejuggernaut he has there. he still has the main backers behind. still has a lot of on hand. he is and is for the long run. i don't think this change the dynamic all that much. we will see where we
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end up but at the moment i think it is business as usual. really great to get your analysis. really great to get your analysis-— really great to get your anal sis. ~ _, . ~ ., analysis. we will come back to ou a analysis. we will come back to you a little _ analysis. we will come back to you a little later _ analysis. we will come back to you a little later in _ analysis. we will come back to you a little later in the - analysis. we will come back to you a little later in the game. | over to you, caitriona. we are happy with our illustrious panel. —— here with. with me now, stephanie rawlings—blake. rodney davis, marc lotter, margaret talev. thanks forjoining us. we will go to you first, margaret. what are your thoughts on the victory for donald trump, nikki haley pledging she will stay the course? it haley pledging she will stay the course?— haley pledging she will stay the course? it is a victory for donald trump. _ the course? it is a victory for donald trump. not - the course? it is a victory for donald trump. not a - the course? it is a victory for donald trump. not a huge i donald trump. not a huge victory he wanted to completely obliterate nikki haley out the race but it is fairly close. i don't even hear a lot of talk about ten points is not that
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much, it was new hampshire, there are no other statistics that will match this unless there is a massive change to there is a massive change to the race. nevertheless we saw some strong support amongst independence and amongst college—educated voters for her and that is going to help her at least try to make the general election argument. have weeks to do it, it is extremely uphill but they may have been enough good results to at least let her hang on a little longer. let her hang on a little longer-— let her hang on a little loner. . , , , longer. new hampshire is quite a uniuue longer. new hampshire is quite a unique case — longer. new hampshire is quite a unique case in _ longer. new hampshire is quite a unique case in terms - longer. new hampshire is quite a unique case in terms of - longer. new hampshire is quite a unique case in terms of the i a unique case in terms of the high number of undeclared and independent voters in that state. , ., ., ., ., state. there is also a lot of states were _ state. there is also a lot of states were independent . state. there is also a lot of- states were independent voters are undeclared voters can't participate in the primaries. that is not true of carolina. we will see for that new hampshire is in england, you are looking at a different type of republican, a republican leaning photo, compared to a lot of the larger states, stating the south where the contest will move to. but you were advising _ contest will move to. but you were advising the _ contest will move to. but you were advising the trump - were advising the trump campaign in 2020, what is the advice now? we saw his victory speech earlier, coming and
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nikki haley hard. he speech earlier, coming and nikki haley hard.— speech earlier, coming and nikki haley hard. he is putting the nail in _ nikki haley hard. he is putting the nail in the _ nikki haley hard. he is putting the nail in the coffin _ nikki haley hard. he is putting the nail in the coffin in - nikki haley hard. he is putting the nail in the coffin in this - the nail in the coffin in this race — the nail in the coffin in this race in_ the nail in the coffin in this race. in his deep limits of the general— race. in his deep limits of the general election. this will be him — general election. this will be him and _ general election. this will be him and joe biden. general election. this will be him andjoe biden. to general election. this will be him and joe biden. to margaret 's point, — him and joe biden. to margaret 's point, the strength we need to put— 's point, the strength we need to put these two victories together. we have not seen any competitive primary generally someone run both iowa and hampshire because they are such different— hampshire because they are such different voters. very evangelical, very focused on the morality issues and social issues — the morality issues and social issues in _ the morality issues and social issues in iowa. new hampshire, they— issues in iowa. new hampshire, they are — issues in iowa. new hampshire, they are very much economy, libertarian _ they are very much economy, libertarian state, stay out of my way, _ libertarian state, stay out of my way, live free or die. and to wonder_ my way, live free or die. and to wonder table, a lot of momentum going into south carolina _ momentum going into south carolina. now it is time to pivot. _ carolina. now it is time to pivot, finish the race and get onto— pivot, finish the race and get ontojoe _ pivot, finish the race and get ontojoe biden. pivot, finish the race and get onto joe biden.— pivot, finish the race and get onto joe biden. stephanie, we saw joe biden _ onto joe biden. stephanie, we saw joe biden already - sanoe biden already fundraising of this. already pivoting to be money mano against donald trump again. what should he be doing? what should be fighting can the main thing the biting campaign
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should be doing is finding better ways to talk about the wins the biden administration has done. he wins the biden administration has done. . , . wins the biden administration has done. ., wins the biden administration has done-— has done. he has a record to run on- _ has done. he has a record to run on- the _ has done. he has a record to run on. the democrats - has done. he has a record to run on. the democrats in - run on. the democrats in general— run on. the democrats in general need _ run on. the democrats in general need to - run on. the democrats in general need to be - run on. the democrats in general need to be doingj run on. the democrats in- general need to be doing better jobs _ general need to be doing better jobs you — general need to be doing better jobs you have _ general need to be doing better jobs. you have the _ general need to be doing better jobs. you have the former- jobs. you have the former president. _ jobs. you have the former president, 91 _ jobs. you have the former president, 91 felony- jobs. you have the formerl president, 91 felony counts right— president, 91 felony counts right now _ president, 91 felony counts right now. and _ president, 91 felony counts right now. and he - president, 91 felony counts right now. and he is - president, 91 felony counts. right now. and he is running neck— right now. and he is running neck and _ right now. and he is running neck and neck _ right now. and he is running neck and neck with - right now. and he is running neck and neck with an - neck and neck with an accomplished - neck and neck with an . accomplished president. neck and neck with an - accomplished president. we neck and neck with an _ accomplished president. we have to he _ accomplished president. we have to be better— accomplished president. we have to be better as— accomplished president. we have to be better as democrats- to be better as democrats messaging _ to be better as democrats messaging that. - to be better as democrats messaging that.— to be better as democrats messaging that. to be better as democrats messaauin that. ~ ., , ., ~ messaging that. what you think, rodne ? messaging that. what you think, rodney? donald _ messaging that. what you think, rodney? donald trump - messaging that. what you think, rodney? donald trump was - messaging that. what you think, rodney? donald trump was an l rodney? donald trump was an accomplished _ rodney? donald trump was an accomplished president. - rodney? donald trump was an accomplished president. i- accomplished president. i served with him passed numerous pieces of legislation that helped the american people and american economy. you have two incumbents running against each other again. incumbents running against each otheragain. everybody incumbents running against each other again. everybody in america knows who they are. republican voters are choosing donald trump to be the nominee again. joe biden �*s campaign should focus onjoe biden fixing the problems from the white house. if you want to have a chance to be donald trump in this matchup, as we go into the general election, he has to address the border, good
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economic indicators going forward. he also has to understand that he cannot go out there and do what hillary clinton did and look at the trump voters as groups, as deplorable is and as people who are just not right for america. they will turn on him like they did hillary clinton. we will see donald trump inaugurated for a second term.— see donald trump inaugurated for a second term. what do you think the approach _ for a second term. what do you think the approach of _ for a second term. what do you think the approach of the - think the approach of the president is? we saw this approach to protect democracy form a key part of the campaign so far. it form a key part of the campaign so far. , ,., ., form a key part of the campaign so far. , ., , ., so far. it is important but to our so far. it is important but to your point. _ so far. it is important but to your point. i— so far. it is important but to your point, i agree. - so far. it is important but to your point, i agree. the - so far. it is important but to l your point, i agree. the biden your point, iagree. the biden administration has to do, continue _ administration has to do, continue to do the work. i spent _ continue to do the work. i spent time with mayors last week, — spent time with mayors last week, the us conference of mayors— week, the us conference of mayors and they are focused on getting — mayors and they are focused on getting things done for their constituency of the american people — constituency of the american people everyday. they are where the rubber —
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people everyday. they are where the rubber meets the boat. joe biden— the rubber meets the boat. joe biden has— the rubber meets the boat. joe biden has credibility that room _ biden has credibility that room. he has to expand on that. not to— room. he has to expand on that. not to discount nikki haley thank you staying in the rates stop margaret, this campaign, if it is biden and trump, we saw record turnouts for both of them on election day. is it going to be a dirty campaign, do you think? for going to be a dirty campaign, do you think?— going to be a dirty campaign, do you think? for sure there is a lot at stake. _ do you think? for sure there is a lot at stake. there _ do you think? for sure there is a lot at stake. there are - do you think? for sure there is a lot at stake. there are some| a lot at stake. there are some unknowns. we began to get a peek under the curtain when we saw evidence of the first ai driven bobo call in new hampshire.— driven bobo call in new hampshire. driven bobo call in new hamshire. ~ ., ., ., driven bobo call in new ham shire, . ., ., ., hampshire. we have that and can take a listen. _ hampshire. we have that and can take a listen. that _ hampshire. we have that and can take a listen. that is _ hampshire. we have that and can take a listen. that is a _ hampshire. we have that and can take a listen. that is a good - take a listen. that is a good point. if we can listen to the bobo call. bi point. if we can listen to the itobo call-— point. if we can listen to the bobo call. ai joe biden: it is important — bobo call. ai joe biden: it is important you _ bobo call. ai joe biden: it is important you save - bobo call. ai joe biden: it is important you save your- bobo call. ai joe mom: it isj important you save your vote for the november election. we need your hopes. reading this tuesday only enables the republicans in the request to collect donald trump again. while it may sound like him,
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thatis while it may sound like him, that is notjoe biden. i while it may sound like him, that is not joe biden.- that is not joe biden. i am laughing _ that is not joe biden. i am laughing about _ that is not joe biden. i am laughing about it - that is not joe biden. i am laughing about it but - that is not joe biden. i am laughing about it but it. that is not joe biden. i am laughing about it but it is| that is not joe biden. i am i laughing about it but it is not funny. new hampshire's contest for all sorts of insider reasons does not really count on the democratic side. if this is a sign of what is to come in the general election without being very difficult to figure out we started it, why they started it, the impact it will have chemicals listening, who believes, media makes nobody be able to believe anything and then where are you? it is kind of, it is a big question looking ahead. can also see what the kind of non— dirty trick themes of this election will be. the economy, women's reproductive rights, the democracy reproductive rights, the democrachanuary six reproductive rights, the democracy january six case against donald trump, the age argument that has been more salient and damaging against joe biden so far. you can see theissue joe biden so far. you can see the issue contours and then there is the spectre of the unknown. is there going to be foreign interference? are they going to be dirty tricks? is it
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just want to get dirty? the ai oint just want to get dirty? the ai point these — just want to get dirty? the ai point these into _ just want to get dirty? the ai point these into that. - point these into that. particularly on the interference with people so used to getting clips and the things shared on their phone and looking at it without knowing the providence of them. it is absolutely scary about what — it is absolutely scary about what can be done on both sides. i what can be done on both sides. lam _ what can be done on both sides. lam a _ what can be done on both sides. i am a political operative. both— i am a political operative. both sides will do it. they will— both sides will do it. they will do _ both sides will do it. they will do everything they can to the point _ will do everything they can to the point when you broke the law to — the point when you broke the law to get out the vote or help their— law to get out the vote or help their candidate win. it scares me — their candidate win. it scares me we _ their candidate win. it scares me. we never had a tool like aa where _ me. we never had a tool like aa where you — me. we never had a tool like aa where you can recreate the voice — where you can recreate the voice of _ where you can recreate the voice of the president or what people — voice of the president or what people think is the force of the president on either side. unlike — the president on either side. unlike in— the president on either side. unlike in your laptop and your mom �*s basement. unlike in your laptop and your mom 's basement.— unlike in your laptop and your mom 's basement. right. this level of technology _ mom 's basement. right. this level of technology is - mom 's basement. right. this level of technology is scary . mom 's basement. right. this level of technology is scary in | level of technology is scary in the hands of political operatives with no moral compass on either side. it compass on either side. could be a compass on either side. it could be a completely unrelated actor. somebody who isjust
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mischievous or more malevolent than that. ~ , ,., , mischievous or more malevolent than that. ~ , , ~ mischievous or more malevolent than that. ~ , , . ., than that. absolutely. we had dee - than that. absolutely. we had deep facts _ than that. absolutely. we had deep facts on _ than that. absolutely. we had deep facts on social— than that. absolutely. we had deep facts on social media - than that. absolutely. we had l deep facts on social media long before — deep facts on social media long before at — deep facts on social media long before ai became _ deep facts on social media long before ai became the _ deep facts on social media long before ai became the new - before ai became the new description _ before ai became the new description of— before ai became the new description of what - before ai became the new description of what used l before ai became the newi description of what used to before ai became the new - description of what used to be called — description of what used to be called the _ description of what used to be called the fake. _ description of what used to be called the fake. it _ description of what used to be called the fake. it shows - called the fake. it shows congress _ called the fake. it shows congress and _ called the fake. it shows congress and the - called the fake. it shows . congress and the regulator environment _ congress and the regulator environment in _ congress and the regulator environment in the - congress and the regulator environment in the united i environment in the united states— environment in the united states have _ environment in the united states have to _ environment in the united states have to do - environment in the united . states have to do something when — states have to do something when it— states have to do something when it comes _ states have to do something when it comes to _ states have to do something when it comes to ai - states have to do something when it comes to ai fakes i states have to do something i when it comes to ai fakes and punish — when it comes to ai fakes and punish those _ when it comes to ai fakes and punish those who _ when it comes to ai fakes and punish those who actually- punish those who actually commit _ punish those who actually commit these _ punish those who actually commit these crimes. - punish those who actuallyl commit these crimes. and punish those who actually- commit these crimes. and number one, _ commit these crimes. and number one. negative _ commit these crimes. and number one, negative crime _ commit these crimes. and number one, negative crime and _ commit these crimes. and number one, negative crime and then - one, negative crime and then actually— one, negative crime and then actually enforce _ one, negative crime and then actually enforce the - one, negative crime and then actually enforce the law. - one, negative crime and theni actually enforce the law. what concerns — actually enforce the law. what concerns me _ actually enforce the law. what concerns me is _ actually enforce the law. what concerns me is you _ actually enforce the law. what concerns me is you are - concerns me is you are beginning _ concerns me is you are beginning to _ concerns me is you are beginning to see - concerns me is you are beginning to see a - concerns me is you are i beginning to see a rollout concerns me is you are - beginning to see a rollout of fake — beginning to see a rollout of take things— beginning to see a rollout of fake things that _ beginning to see a rollout of fake things that bobo - beginning to see a rollout of fake things that bobo call. l beginning to see a rollout of. fake things that bobo call. and you is— fake things that bobo call. and you is it — fake things that bobo call. and you is it for— fake things that bobo call. and you is it for interference? - fake things that bobo call. and you is it for interference? is. you is it for interference? is it vladimir— you is it for interference? is it vladimir putin _ you is it for interference? is it vladimir putin that - you is it for interference? is it vladimir putin that did . it vladimir putin that did that? _ it vladimir putin that did that? are _ it vladimir putin that did that? are we _ it vladimir putin that did that? are we going - it vladimir putin that did that? are we going intol it vladimir putin that did i that? are we going into a prospective _ that? are we going into a prospective trump - that? are we going into a - prospective trump presidency and going _ prospective trump presidency and going to _ prospective trump presidency and going to rehash _ prospective trump presidency and going to rehash robert i and going to rehash robert multer— and going to rehash robert muller and _ and going to rehash robert muller and have _ and going to rehash robert muller and have another. and going to rehash robert. muller and have another hoax investigation _ muller and have another hoax investigation that— muller and have another hoax investigation that disrupts - muller and have another hoaxj investigation that disrupts our country? 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and say once these things like this come out, _ and say once these things like this come out, let's _ and say once these things like this come out, let's identify. this come out, let's identify who— this come out, let's identify who it — this come out, let's identify who it was _ this come out, let's identify who it was and _ this come out, let's identify who it was and addressed . this come out, let's identify who it was and addressed it before _ who it was and addressed it before the _ who it was and addressed it before the election - who it was and addressed it before the election is - who it was and addressed it before the election is over. | before the election is over. will be _ before the election is over. will be tech _ before the election is over. will be tech uses _ before the election is over. will be tech uses to - before the election is over. will be tech uses to put - before the election is over. | will be tech uses to put the thumb on the scale and send through legitimate factual based news, because it disfavours their preferred left and candidate, i did it last time and they will do it again. and if they have to do it again, you will find more laptop negative stories that are all... laptop negative stories that are all- - -— laptop negative stories that are all... ~ ., ., ., ., are all... we are not going to net into are all... we are not going to get into that _ are all... we are not going to get into that at _ are all... we are not going to get into that at this _ are all... we are not going to get into that at this point. . are all... we are not going to| get into that at this point. we are coming towards the end of the item now. we will get into this. we have a lot more to discuss the rest of the night. let's turn now to some other major news around the world. the israeli army says 24 of its soldiers were killed on monday, marking the deadliest day for its forces since their ground operation began. there's increasing pressure — internationally and from within israel — for the fighting to stop. this includes securing the release of the remaining 130 hostages held by hamas and allowing in more humanitarian aid into gaza.
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in this video from the israeli defence forces, you can see strikes on hamas targets in southern gaza. the israeli military says that its forces have completed the encirclement of the city of khan younis, which has been the focus of intense fighting in recent days. our middle east correspondent mark lowen sent this update from jerusalem. israeli troops have encircled khan younis, the biggest city in southern gaza, closing the last road out of for the hundreds of thousands of people still estimated to be sheltering there. the israelis believe that some of the top hamas commanders are holed up in the city. health officials in the city. health officials in khan younis have reported that israeli troops have stormed at least one hospital, arresting staff, they are blockading others, there have been reports of fighting very close to the hospital is preventing healthcare officials from being able to bed —— berry
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bodies and cemeteries, they have to be buried inside the grounds of the hospital, the largest hospital in the area. meanwhile, the first of the 24 israeli soldiers killed in those attacks in gaza on monday have been buried here in israel, and they were said to have been killed, 21 of them, when they were to a building that they themselves had mined for destruction. and then a rocket propelled grenade was fired toward their position, detonating those explosives. israil�*s president has called it an unbearably difficult day, the biggest single loss of life in a single attack since the offensive began. meanwhile, there have been reports that israel has proposed a two—month truce which would involve the release of hostages and also palestinian prisoners being released from israeli prisons here, and israel's government has not denied it has proposed that truce. but there are already reports that hamas has rejected it. a delegation is in
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cairo, but there are resources reported in various different media outlets saying they have rejected, they have always with demoted a permanent ceasefire, not a temporary one. earlier, i spoke with michael morell, former acting cia director and host of the intelligence matters: the relaunch podcast. ifi if i can turn to some developing news, we have a statement from 24 countries tonight about strikes that they took against houthi control targets in yemen yesterday, 24 countries doing that. not the first retaliation strikes we have seen in that red sea area. the first strikes didn't act as a deterrent. do you expect a different result this time? i don't expect that these strikes will deter the houthis from firing on ships in the red sea. but what i think the goal of the strikes is is to destroy significantly degrade their capability to conduct the strikes. so i think that is now the objective of these strikes, and given that i think we are
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likely to see more of them in the days ahead as the coalition tries to do just that.— tries to do 'ust that. houthis are tries to do 'ust that. houthis taking — tries to do just that. houthis are taking this _ tries to do just that. houthis are taking this action, - are taking this action, mounting this blockade in solidarity with what is happening in gaza. the hamas lead health ministry are putting the death toll at over 25,000, more than two people —— 25,000, more than two people —— 2 million people displaced, dreadful humanitarian crisis there that the whole world is commenting on, so should the international community be focusing more on dealing with that and less so on what is happening in the red sea? i think you have raised a really good question. i think we have to deal with the houthis. we can't allow them to fire on naval ships and commercial shipping in the red sea, we have to stop that, but at the same time, we raise a good point which is people have to start seriously thinking about discussing and planning for the day after in gaza. and i don't
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see that kind of planning being done right now. when israeli combat operations are over and the israeli army leaves in large numbers, who is going to take over, who is going to govern, who was going to be responsible for taking care of the humanitarian situation, who will be responsible for rebuilding, who was responsible for getting the economy going again, who is going to provide security? it is not going to be the israelis, not the americans, not going to be the palestinian authority, they don't have the capability to do that. who is going to do that, and there needs to be international discussion about that and that is not happening now. . . , that and that is not happening now. . ., , ., ,, now. the changing its approach here, michael? _ now. the changing its approach here, michael? should - now. the changing its approach l here, michael? should president biden be pushing the israel prime minister, angela netanyahu, harder? i prime minister, angela netanyahu, harder? prime minister, angela netan ahu, harder? ~ ., netanyahu, harder? ithink what the united _ netanyahu, harder? ithink what the united states _ netanyahu, harder? ithink what the united states need - netanyahu, harder? ithink what the united states need to - netanyahu, harder? ithink what the united states need to do - netanyahu, harder? ithink what the united states need to do is i the united states need to do is take the lead and bring together all the different parties to discuss what happens
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in gaza after the israeli army leaves. that is what i would like to see the united states do, and i don't know if we have the will to do that right now. given that we are in a political season, given the american people don't want to get involved in foreign entanglements. i don't see the will, but i don't know anybody else in the world who is capable of doing that except united states of america. stand united states of america. and the world is — united states of america. and the world is watching the dreadful humanitarian crisis unfold there. it begs the question how much longer the world can watch that happen. look, this is what hamas wanted. what they wanted on october the seventh was for israel to attack and for israel to kill civilians and for there to kill civilians and for there to be a humanitarian crisis is actually what hamas wanted. they wanted to turn israel into a pariah state in the middle east, they want to and then becoming a nomination, and so far although the israelis are
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winning the battle on the ground, hamas is winning the hearts and minds battle, winning the information battle because of what is happening in gaza. ., ., ., gaza. you mentioned a little earlier there _ gaza. you mentioned a little earlier there we _ gaza. you mentioned a little earlier there we are - gaza. you mentioned a little earlier there we are in - gaza. you mentioned a little earlier there we are in the i earlier there we are in the political season, and tonight we are watching to see what comes out of new hampshire in the first of the nation primary. how do you think this war, the situation in gaza will play through in the campaign this year? in play through in the campaign this year?— this year? in the republican party, they are unifying - this year? in the republican party, they are unifying on i party, they are unifying on providing support to israel, it is a democratic party that is split on this issue with the far left being in a different place than the rest of the party. so i don't think it will play out in the republican primary �*s. we will see if there is much of a primary after tonight. there is much of a primary aftertonight. but there is much of a primary after tonight. but i do expect it to play out during the general campaign, with the republican nominee, however thatis, republican nominee, however that is, pushing president biden pretty hard on providing
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more support israel. stand biden pretty hard on providing more support israel.— more support israel. and of course. _ more support israel. and of course, should _ more support israel. and of course, should donald - more support israel. and of. course, should donald trump more support israel. and of- course, should donald trump be the nomine, should he be the next president, we have a playbook as to how he might handle the middle east. do you expect is approach to be somewhat similar should he find himself in that position? i think he will be a full throated supporter of israel, but i don't expect a trump administration to be any more willing to put americans at risk or to put a lot of american resources into the middle east. i expect him to focus on what he did during his first four years was focus here at home. first four years was focus here at home-— first four years was focus here at home. ., .,. at home. 0k. the former acting cia director, — at home. 0k. the former acting cia director, thank— at home. 0k. the former acting cia director, thank you - at home. 0k. the former acting cia director, thank you so - at home. 0k. the former acting cia director, thank you so much forjoining us here on bbc news. ., ., _, a lot news. you are welcome. a lot more still _ news. you are welcome. a lot more still to _ news. you are welcome. a lot more still to come. _ stay with us here on bbc news. with storm isha still fresh in the memory, it has turned into yet another stormy night of weather across many parts of the uk. this time,
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the culprit is storm jocelyn. you can see this swirl of cloud here on our earlier satellite picture, the centre of a deep area of low pressure. this met office amber warning enforced to start wednesday across northern and western parts of scotland. gusts of up to 80mph in exposed spots, bringing the risk of damage and disruption. but a windy start to wednesday across just about all parts of the uk, so those winds could cause problems if you are travelling early in the morning. low pressure then crossing to the north of the uk. all these white lines, all these isobars still squeezing together as we head into wednesday morning proper. so gales to start the day across parts of scotland and northern england especially. those winds will slowly ease as the day wears on, but i think it will stay particularly gusty into the afternoon to the eastern side of the pennines. some showers around, particularly across scotland, northern ireland, northern england. many of those will fade. we will see a decent amount of sunshine through the day, albeit that sunshine turning quite hazy,
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with high clouds streaming in from the south. another mild day — 9 to 12 degrees. now, during wednesday night, we will see this band of cloud and some outbreaks of patchy rain pushing northwards and eastwards. ahead of that, some clear spells. could see some fog patches developing across parts of northern england and scotland, at least for a time. and some murky conditions developing across parts of wales, southwest england, around coasts and hills, as the air turns increasingly mild. those are the temperatures to start thursday morning. so on thursday, this warm front pushing its way northwards. outbreaks of rain with that, and this feed of southwesterly winds behind a wedge of really very mild air indeed. so a pretty mild feeling day on thursday, but with extensive cloud cover. some outbreaks of rain pushing northeastward, briefly some snow over high ground in scotland, but that won't last long, should mostly turn back to rain. a few brighter glimpses, particularly to the east of high ground, anywhere where you get some shelter from the winds. but those temperatures easily 9 to 13 degrees. i wouldn't be at all surprised
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i'm sumi somaskanda. live in new hampshire where the second primary contest for the republican party is wrapping up. our us media partner projects that former president donald trump will be tonight's big winner, but former governor nikki haley says she isn't going anywhere and will take her fight for the republican party's nomination to her home state of south carolina. let's go now to helena humphrey. she's watching the results as they come in. we have got 66% of precincts counted right now. not the final total both for the past hour or so what we have seen is donald trump lead of about 11 percentage points between both of those candidates has been holding steady. obviously not what the haley campaign would have been looking for, not a total knockout blow. let's look at some of the areas and do the maths as why nikki haley has not been able to catch up. it was an uphill challenge but she
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has really managed to catch up in key areas. in grafton, looking at the college vote. dartmouth college his hero in hanover. we know nikki haley particularly when it comes to attracting independence, first—time voters, was hoping to do well with students, people and colleges for example. despite that 53% at the moment still for donald trump. nikki haley with 44%. we can take a look at cheshire where you will find king couege where you will find king college and ten percentage points between them. donald trump still out in front. if we look at the most populous areas, 75% of these four counties and what you will see his you take someone like watching him, which in recent years started to go more liberal with commuters coming in from boston stop she has not been gaining traction. still 11
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point difference. hillsborough, very important, manchester, we have more of a bellwether city. more diverse. and yet still a convincing leaderfor more diverse. and yet still a convincing leader for donald trump at nine percentage points front. if we look further north, that is where we see a strong margin from donald trump. not all the precincts counted but almost reaching 60%. quite a considerable lead. what we have been hearing because the actual turnout is meant to have been quite good and nikki haley needed people to come out. we have been hearing some towns have had to get extra ballots slip seven. the question is where will those votes have been going to? in iowa there was the question of enthusiasm. nikki haley did not have voters as excited as donald trump's base. could that benefactor we are seeing? at the end of the is a maths problem to solve because what
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we saw was donald trump coming out of the iowa caucus with 31 delegates to nikki haley's 16. delegates to nikki haley's16. it is a small percentage of total delegates needed but as we go one and as we go on forever, as nikki haley continues to south carolina as she insists she will, delegates increasingly become important. absolutely. thank you so much for that update on the result. joining me now isjim merrill, republican polster and analyst, gary o'donoghue is joining gary o'donoghue isjoining us. last time we talk to you that many of the people had been watching donald trump speech and his party. take us through what he has to say. an extraordinary meandering affair when he brought various people up when he brought various people up to speed including vivek ramaswamy. add an awkward
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moment with senator tim scott when he pointed out tim has not been appointed to an open senate seat by nikki haley saint, " you must really hate her." tim scottjust sort of stood there and let, " know, but i love you. anger inside attacking nikki haley and new hampshire voters. complete contrast. extraordinary tactical strategic choice given the nature of what he said after iowa which just we had to bring the parts together and have to unite. slightly unclear what he was trying to do their but clearly mad at nikki haley stagnant race. i think that is clear. she had said earlier in the evening and conceded in the best that she was a fighter, a scrapper, this was the first of the last priority and should carry on. she has the money to do that. . ,
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carry on. she has the money to do that. ., , , ., do that. that is the question, isn't it? how— do that. that is the question, isn't it? how do _ do that. that is the question, isn't it? how do things - do that. that is the question, isn't it? how do things look l isn't it? how do things look for nikki haley going forward from what seems to be a pretty solid result for donald trump? i think, we will see what the final numbers are and how close to the single digits gaps she gets tonight. i don't think in a sense much has changed. he has not clearly delivered the knockout blow. she has not quite done as well as she would have hoped to have done. and then she said she will carry on and has already spent $4 million on advertising in south carolina and will be a rally tomorrow night. in some ways, new hampshire has not changed all that much. it is worth pausing and saying it is pretty rare thing for a candidate to win the first two contests in the primary, iowa and new hampshire. doesn't really happen that donald trump has done that. still has dominance
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in this race. if he thinks nikki haley is so insignificant, you do wonder what he keeps talking about her. and he does keep talking about her. clearly he and his campaign still think there is a problem and there is a problem while she is still in the race. and that is something nikki haley has talked about. saying this is what donald trump does when he feels the end. the nikki haley supporters and voters who spoke to, those who said they wanted to see nikki haley windows phrase, where do you see them coming down when it comes to the general election? if it is not haley, it is donald trump versusjoe biden, if they give you any indication on how they might vote then?— indication on how they might vote then? ~ , .,, , vote then? most people in this republican _ vote then? most people in this republican primary _ vote then? most people in this republican primary will - vote then? most people in this republican primary will vote i republican primary will vote for the republican candidate. i don't think there is question about that. the undeclared voters that have switched from being democrats to undeclared
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were very small numbers. it is equally extraordinary that donald trump is rude about these moderate voters in new hampshire because he may need them come november. if it is a tight race in the electoral couege tight race in the electoral college againstjoe biden and these votes in new hampshire which have gone to democrats pretty regularly, but they could be the difference because this is a purple state. there are boats to be had here for a republican to attract those people and attracting more moderates in 2016 donald trump did win some of those moderates and undecideds across the country. attacking the process in new hampshire, attacking the republican governor maybe he expects all about to be forgotten when it comes to the general. i wonder whether voters will forget the consultant quite like that. that is an important question. thank you so much. we will speak to you later.
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joining me now isjim merrill, republican polster and analyst, as well as an adviser to marco rubio we spoke to you about an hour and a half ago. the results have not seemed to change that much as they continue to trickle in. you said you think nikki haley has done what she needed to do in this new hampshire primary. we have the numbers we are seeing now and some of the breakdowns, do you still think that is the case? i think that is the case. the first order was to survive. she did a good job building from scratch. nikki haley came in at 2% a year ago. outlasted all of our competitors, got herself into a binary race with donald trump. and she survived. a few short days ago the data we had available showed her losing by upwards of 22 points. the fact she cut the deficit dramatically, we see exits that
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showed voters who were deciding over the last 48 hours were broken towards haley. it is a good night for donald trump. he is in control of this race. but his narrative was boarded tonight. he wanted to be able tonight. he wanted to be able to declare victory and go home. new hampshire and chris sununu and nikki haley said no, we will continue on. it bought nikki haley time case on the borders of south carolina and the voters in the country. she has a steep hill declined but she is in the fight. nikki haley over a year ago, that is all you can ask for i am wondering how much time she has. ,, , , ,., wondering how much time she has. ,, , , . wondering how much time she has. ,, ,, . ., , has. she spent so much money and time in _ has. she spent so much money and time in iowa _ has. she spent so much money and time in iowa and _ has. she spent so much money and time in iowa and new- and time in iowa and new hampshire, a state with its moderate and independent voters she needed to do really well on. she might have performed better than some of the polls had indicated but what path is there for her going forward to
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more conservative states? it is a treat more conservative states? it is a great point — more conservative states? it is a great point and _ more conservative states? it is a great point and is _ more conservative states? it is a great point and is a - a great point and is a challenge. she is going to a state where she served as governor. it is true it is a close primary, republican nominee but nikki haley is conservative. a full spectrum conservative. a full spectrum conservative. i think what she needed is the time to present her vision stop this campaign feels like from someone living here and experiencing it, just started in some sense but it seems quite odd that she just now got a 2—person race, just began to sharpen her contract and go on the attack. i think it's saw in donald trump speech, somebody a little rattled who did not get what he wanted and lashed out as we have seen him do before. it is a challenge ahead for nikki haley but you would rather have that challenge and be given the
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concession speech saying we did the best we could but out. she is in this fight, has a long way to go but the rest goes on. looking ahead, if donald trump doesn't wrap up was not independent voters come out in force for nikki haley. why would he have to do to win them over? . , . would he have to do to win them over? ., , ., ., , ., over? that is a tough question to him because _ over? that is a tough question to him because if— over? that is a tough question to him because if you - over? that is a tough question to him because if you look- over? that is a tough question| to him because if you look back at donald trump history, he has been a base plus candidate. in other words he really works to maximise his face and make sure they turn out and we see that. the intensity of support for donald trump as of the chart. his supporters log on and i really there and it is hard to move them. he never had a real effort to appeal to independent voters. in a state like new hampshire, all it will matter. donald trump lost biomass 70,000 votes tojoe biden and a
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lot were undeclared voters. if he is the nominee, one of the most important things you will have to do is pick a new vice presidential running mate since mike pence won't be doing it with him. that will be an opportunity for him to reach out and create a new coalition opportunity. first things first, as to when the nomination. he had a good couple of election contests here. but nikki haley is stubborn and owed the right to go on. you will have to continue to own and make his case and may do so next month but plenty of time between now and then. ., ., ., , , and then. you are a republican ollster and then. you are a republican pollster and — and then. you are a republican pollster and analyst _ and then. you are a republican pollster and analyst but - and then. you are a republican pollster and analyst but given l pollster and analyst but given the divided republican vote, this must open quite an opportunity forjoe biden. it goes both ways. i think, joe
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biden has a record as well. some republicans voted forjoe biden in 2020 because they saw him as the lesser of two evils present donald trump. four years ofjoe biden, there is a reason why his approval rating is fairly low. in new hampshire and around the country. republicans have seen policies that give them serious pores. they see a board out of control, inflation and other concerns and not to mention they see someone who is now 80 years old and they have real concern about his viability going forward. joe biden is actually going to have a tougher time bringing back together the same coalition he did build in 2020. every election is different. the coalition, they add and flow and you have to build new support groups. he has an opportunity there but also has another challenge now that he did not four years ago.- did not four years ago. great oint. did not four years ago. great point- in _ did not four years ago. great point. in great _ did not four years ago. great point. in great to _ did not four years ago. great point. in great to get - did not four years ago. great point. in great to get your i point. in great to get your insight tonight. thank you for
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joining us. insight tonight. thank you for joining us— joining us. thanks for having me. over to you, caitriona. our panelare our panel are still here with us. we have stefanie, the former mayor of ultima and rodney davis, the former republican congressman from illinois. listening there, fulton about kind of what happens next for nikki haley, she is pledging to stay in the race but is there any pathway for her collecting delegates as she has a few from iowa, a pupil new hampshire and then south carolina. i pupil new hampshire and then south carolina.— south carolina. i don't see it. she has been _ south carolina. i don't see it. she has been done _ south carolina. i don't see it. she has been done by - south carolina. i don't see it. she has been done by 30 - south carolina. i don't see it. . she has been done by 30 points. she has been done by 30 points. she has been done by 30 points. she has the majority of the most popular officials in south carolina endorsing donald trump. i don't see a path to victory for her. it all comes down to money. her large donors
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to her super pack are not going to her super pack are not going to be willing to write big checks when they see the writing on the wall right now. i think again what is going to happen, herteam i think again what is going to happen, her team will take a step back this week, they will look at how much money they raise, much they spend, what rejected fundraising goals were, how this loss impact them and they will make a financial decision and then figure a way out. i don't see her on the ballot running in south carolina unless something major changes in polling within south carolina and shows a path to a close second. i carolina and shows a path to a close second.— carolina and shows a path to a close second. i agree with that completely- — close second. i agree with that completely. to _ close second. i agree with that completely. to make - close second. i agree with that completely. to make it - close second. i agree with that completely. to make it worse l completely. to make it worse for her. — completely. to make it worse for her, the 30 average lead includes _ for her, the 30 average lead includes though polls that have 'ust includes though polls that have just being herand includes though polls that have just being her and donald trump _ just being her and donald trump. that includes ron desantis's 7%, that includes vivek— desantis's 7%, that includes vivek ramaswamy's 4%. none of those _ vivek ramaswamy's 4%. none of those report —— supporters are going _ those report —— supporters are going to — those report —— supporters are going to nikki haley and most of ron— going to nikki haley and most of ron desantis's voters are going — of ron desantis's voters are going to _ of ron desantis's voters are going to donald trump. that 30%
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is looking — going to donald trump. that 30% is looking a lot worse. she might— is looking a lot worse. she might get chris christie public 4% or— might get chris christie public 4% or 5% _ might get chris christie public 4% or 5% but you are not closing _ 4% or 5% but you are not closing the gap, the gap is getting _ closing the gap, the gap is getting bigger. closing the gap, the gap is getting bigger-— closing the gap, the gap is getting bigger. this has never been a primary _ getting bigger. this has never been a primary contest - getting bigger. this has never been a primary contest where| been a primary contest where everything _ been a primary contest where everything was _ been a primary contest where everything was up _ been a primary contest where everything was up for - been a primary contest where everything was up for grabs, i been a primary contest where| everything was up for grabs, it has always— everything was up for grabs, it has always been _ everything was up for grabs, it has always been a _ everything was up for grabs, it has always been a primary - has always been a primary contest _ has always been a primary contest that— has always been a primary contest that was _ has always been a primary contest that was donald . has always been a primary - contest that was donald trump's to lose _ contest that was donald trump's to lose and — contest that was donald trump's to lose and a _ contest that was donald trump's to lose and a very— contest that was donald trump's to lose and a very difficult - to lose and a very difficult one — to lose and a very difficult one for— to lose and a very difficult one for donald _ to lose and a very difficult one for donald trump - to lose and a very difficult one for donald trump to i to lose and a very difficult. one for donald trump to lose to lose and a very difficult - one for donald trump to lose in all of— one for donald trump to lose in all of the — one for donald trump to lose in all of the poles _ one for donald trump to lose in all of the poles month - one for donald trump to lose in all of the poles month after- all of the poles month after month, _ all of the poles month after month, the _ all of the poles month after month, the more _ all of the poles month afterl month, the more indictment counts — month, the more indictment counts racked _ month, the more indictment counts racked up, _ month, the more indictment counts racked up, the - month, the more indictment. counts racked up, the stronger his numbers _ counts racked up, the stronger his numbers looks. _ counts racked up, the stronger his numbers looks. so - counts racked up, the stronger his numbers looks. so for- his numbers looks. so for rivals— his numbers looks. so for rivals for— his numbers looks. so for rivals for contenders - rivals for contenders especially _ rivals for contenders especially like - rivals for contenders especially like nikki i rivals for contenders - especially like nikki haley and ron desantis, _ especially like nikki haley and ron desantis, it _ especially like nikki haley and ron desantis, it has - especially like nikki haley and ron desantis, it has always. ron desantis, it has always seemed _ ron desantis, it has always seemed to _ ron desantis, it has always seemed to be _ ron desantis, it has always seemed to be about- ron desantis, it has always seemed to be about being i ron desantis, it has always- seemed to be about being there in case — seemed to be about being there in case there _ seemed to be about being there in case there is— seemed to be about being there in case there is an _ seemed to be about being there in case there is an opportunity l in case there is an opportunity to strike, _ in case there is an opportunity to strike, being _ in case there is an opportunity to strike, being able _ in case there is an opportunity to strike, being able to - in case there is an opportunity to strike, being able to stick. to strike, being able to stick around — to strike, being able to stick around long _ to strike, being able to stick around long enough- to strike, being able to stick around long enough in- to strike, being able to stick around long enough in casel around long enough in case donald _ around long enough in case donald trump _ around long enough in case donald trump implodes, i around long enough in case donald trump implodes, inj around long enough in case - donald trump implodes, in case he does — donald trump implodes, in case he does something _ donald trump implodes, in case he does something to _ donald trump implodes, in case he does something to himself. i he does something to himself. it is he does something to himself. it is not — he does something to himself. it is not that— he does something to himself. it is not that they _ he does something to himself. it is not that they could - he does something to himself. it is not that they could win - it is not that they could win over— it is not that they could win over the _ it is not that they could win over the people _ it is not that they could win over the people who - it is not that they could win over the people who love i it is not that they could win - over the people who love donald trump, — over the people who love donald trump, and _ over the people who love donald trump, and when _ over the people who love donald trump, and when you _ over the people who love donald trump, and when you look- over the people who love donald trump, and when you look at- over the people who love donald | trump, and when you look at the exit polling — trump, and when you look at the exit polling reports— trump, and when you look at the exit polling reports that - trump, and when you look at the exit polling reports that we - exit polling reports that we have — exit polling reports that we have seen _ exit polling reports that we have seen tonight, - exit polling reports that we have seen tonight, the - have seen tonight, the intensity— have seen tonight, the intensity of— have seen tonight, the intensity of support. have seen tonight, thej intensity of support for have seen tonight, the - intensity of support for trump is so — intensity of support for trump is so much _ intensity of support for trump is so much stronger— intensity of support for trump is so much stronger than- intensity of support for trump is so much stronger than thel is so much stronger than the insensitive _ is so much stronger than the insensitive support- is so much stronger than the insensitive support from - is so much stronger than the insensitive support from the| insensitive support from the undeclared _ insensitive support from the undeclared 's _ insensitive support from the undeclared 's who _ insensitive support from the undeclared 's who went - insensitive support from the undeclared 's who went to i insensitive support from the - undeclared 's who went to nikki haley — undeclared 's who went to nikki haley. they _ undeclared 's who went to nikki haley. they went _ undeclared 's who went to nikki
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haley. they went to _ undeclared 's who went to nikki haley. they went to nikki - undeclared 's who went to nikki haley. they went to nikki haley not because _ haley. they went to nikki haley not because they _ haley. they went to nikki haley not because they love _ haley. they went to nikki haley not because they love nikki - not because they love nikki haley — not because they love nikki haley but _ not because they love nikki haley but because - not because they love nikki haley but because they - not because they love nikki i haley but because they didn't want — haley but because they didn't want to— haley but because they didn't want to vote _ haley but because they didn't want to vote for _ haley but because they didn't want to vote for donald - haley but because they didn't i want to vote for donald trump. while _ want to vote for donald trump. while you — want to vote for donald trump. while you can _ want to vote for donald trump. while you can make _ want to vote for donald trump. while you can make that - while you can make that argument _ while you can make that argument in _ while you can make that argument in other- while you can make that| argument in other states while you can make that i argument in other states to while you can make that - argument in other states to try and look— argument in other states to try and look at _ argument in other states to try and look at me, _ argument in other states to try and look at me, i— argument in other states to try and look at me, i can - argument in other states to try and look at me, i can pick- argument in other states to try and look at me, i can pick up i and look at me, i can pick up support— and look at me, i can pick up support from _ and look at me, i can pick up support from independents, i support from independents, donald _ support from independents, donald trump _ support from independents, donald trump would - support from independents, donald trump would have i support from independents, donald trump would have a| support from independents, - donald trump would have a hard time _ donald trump would have a hard time in _ donald trump would have a hard time in the — donald trump would have a hard time in the election, _ donald trump would have a hard time in the election, but- donald trump would have a hard time in the election, but when i time in the election, but when you ask— time in the election, but when you ask people _ time in the election, but when you ask people to _ time in the election, but when you ask people to turn - time in the election, but when you ask people to turn out - time in the election, but when you ask people to turn out to. time in the election, but when| you ask people to turn out to a primary, — you ask people to turn out to a primary. the _ you ask people to turn out to a primary, the intensity- you ask people to turn out to a primary, the intensity for- you ask people to turn out to a primary, the intensity for you i primary, the intensity for you matters — primary, the intensity for you matters and _ primary, the intensity for you matters and if _ primary, the intensity for you matters and if you _ primary, the intensity for you matters and if you are - primary, the intensity for you matters and if you are in - primary, the intensity for you matters and if you are in a i matters and if you are in a state _ matters and if you are in a state with _ matters and if you are in a state with your _ matters and if you are in a i state with your independence and with _ state with your independence and with strong _ state with your independence and with strong support - state with your independence i and with strong support among the base, — and with strong support among the base, it _ and with strong support among the base, it gets— and with strong support among the base, it gets even- and with strong support among the base, it gets even harder. i the base, it gets even harder. that— the base, it gets even harder. that is— the base, it gets even harder. that is what— the base, it gets even harder. that is what she _ the base, it gets even harder. that is what she is _ the base, it gets even harder. that is what she is looking - the base, it gets even harder. that is what she is looking at. ithink— that is what she is looking at. i think for— that is what she is looking at. i think for someone _ that is what she is looking at. i think for someone who - that is what she is looking at. i i think for someone who clearly plays the long game of politics is why her staying power is so strong. how she loses south carolina so badly? how does that happen? you can't have a long game and lose your home state in a big way. i really think she has to make some decisions. i5 think she has to make some decisions-— decisions. is there any way that she — decisions. is there any way that she can _ decisions. is there any way that she can make - decisions. is there any way that she can make up - decisions. is there any way - that she can make up support? i think there is a way, we will know before a month is out. she has to see some movement in
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some polls. to know that she is going to have a shot. otherwise, i think it is really devastating to have your own home state where she is touting her record of success, to have that thrown in herface... you that thrown in her face. .. you have gone _ that thrown in her face. .. you have gone through _ that thrown in her face... you have gone through many political campaigns yourself. what would be going through nikki haley's mind now? her team and what are you looking at when you are in that position?— at when you are in that position? she has to be thinking _ position? she has to be thinking there - position? she has to be thinking there is - position? she has to be thinking there is more i position? she has to be - thinking there is more support than the polls suggest. she has to be thinking, oh, well, these endorsements don't matter because the voters know me. so they are going to come out for me. i think that is a good thing to feel, but i think she will be confronted with the reality of the numbers and she doesn't like said, she has to make some tough decisions. this is not a traditional— make some tough decisions. this is not a traditional challenger reverses _ is not a traditional challenger reverses a combat or a couple of challenger races. this is someone _ of challenger races. this is someone who is very well known. you know — someone who is very well known. you know where he stands, you
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know— you know where he stands, you know his — you know where he stands, you know his name, there is no shock— know his name, there is no shock factor, no new information or new policy... the — information or new policy... the shock— information or new policy... the shock factor! there is a lot of— the shock factor! there is a lot of shock _ the shock factor! there is a lot of shock factor. - the shock factor! there is a lot of shock factor. in - the shock factor! there is a lot of shock factor. in south carolina. — lot of shock factor. in south carolina, the _ lot of shock factor. in south carolina, the voters - lot of shock factor. in south carolina, the voters know i lot of shock factor. in south i carolina, the voters know her. he was governor there, quite a high profile governor with the flag... high profile governor with the flat . .. ., ., high profile governor with the flat... ., ., ., , ., flag. .. you are not trying to win over — flag. .. you are not trying to win over people _ flag. .. you are not trying to win over people who - flag. .. you are not trying to win over people who may i flag. .. you are not trying to i win over people who may have caught — win over people who may have caught the new candidate who suddenly... caught the new candidate who suddenly- - -— suddenly... this is donald trump- — suddenly... this is donald trump- if _ suddenly... this is donald trump. if it _ suddenly... this is donald trump. if it was _ suddenly... this is donald trump. if it was nikki - suddenly... this is donald i trump. if it was nikki haley versus ron _ trump. if it was nikki haley versus ron desantis - trump. if it was nikki haley versus ron desantis in - trump. if it was nikki haley versus ron desantis in a i trump. if it was nikki haley i versus ron desantis in a race like this, i think nikki haley could go to south carolina and say, i am the combat candidate, but everybody knows donald trump, and when donald trump wins in south carolina, that is a loss that i don't think nikki haley wants to take for the longevity of her political career. and i will argue, you look at polling early on in this race, the only candidate would have come close to donald trump is ron desantis, but ron
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desantis 's team made a fatal error. they decided instead of running a campaign that got him elected by 20 plus points of the i am the governing governor of florida, he decided to go to the right of donald trump and unfortunately now that he goes back to florida he is going back to florida he is going back to florida he is going back to a much different state where republicans who used to fear him now loathe him, and that... that is all him and his team's fault. d0 that. .. that is all him and his team's fault.— team's fault. do you think within the _ team's fault. do you think within the democratic- team's fault. do you think i within the democratic party, would people prefer to be running against donald trump or nikki haley? who would democrats fear more? definitely i think democrats _ democrats fear more? definitely i think democrats prefer- democrats fear more? definitely i think democrats prefer to - democrats fear more? definitely i think democrats prefer to run i i think democrats prefer to run against _ i think democrats prefer to run against... democrats prefer to run against donald trump because we know how to win that race _ because we know how to win that race nikki — because we know how to win that race. nikki haley, ithink, depending on who she picked as her running mate, could have been — her running mate, could have been a — her running mate, could have been a formidable candidate, especially because she appealed to so— especially because she appealed to so many women. i think
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donald _ to so many women. i think donald trump... i hate to say it because _ donald trump... i hate to say it because i_ donald trump... i hate to say it because i am not a donald trump — it because i am not a donald trump supporter, but i think it is a matchup that the democrats want _ is a matchup that the democrats want to — is a matchup that the democrats want to see. i is a matchup that the democrats want to see-— want to see. i 'ust think it is a dangerous — want to see. i just think it is a dangerous game - want to see. i just think it is a dangerous game to - want to see. i just think it is a dangerous game to play. i want to see. i just think it is i a dangerous game to play. to your— a dangerous game to play. to your point— a dangerous game to play. to your point earlier, _ a dangerous game to play. to your point earlier, we - a dangerous game to play. to your point earlier, we all- your point earlier, we all lived _ your point earlier, we all lived through— your point earlier, we all lived through 2016, - your point earlier, we all| lived through 2016, there your point earlier, we all- lived through 2016, there were a lot— lived through 2016, there were a lot of— lived through 2016, there were a lot of predictions _ lived through 2016, there were a lot of predictions about - lived through 2016, there were a lot of predictions about how. a lot of predictions about how donald — a lot of predictions about how donald trump _ a lot of predictions about how donald trump is _ a lot of predictions about how donald trump is a _ a lot of predictions about how donald trump is a hillary- donald trump is a hillary clinton _ donald trump is a hillary clinton wants— donald trump is a hillary clinton wants to - donald trump is a hillary clinton wants to run - donald trump is a hillary- clinton wants to run against, but when _ clinton wants to run against, but when you _ clinton wants to run against, but when you have _ clinton wants to run against, but when you have the - but when you have the enthusiasm _ but when you have the enthusiasm factor- but when you have the enthusiasm factor of. but when you have the . enthusiasm factor of that but when you have the - enthusiasm factor of that base, you need — enthusiasm factor of that base, you need to _ enthusiasm factor of that base, you need to replicate _ enthusiasm factor of that base, you need to replicate it- enthusiasm factor of that base, you need to replicate it on- enthusiasm factor of that base, you need to replicate it on the. you need to replicate it on the other— you need to replicate it on the other side, _ you need to replicate it on the other side, you _ you need to replicate it on the other side, you need - you need to replicate it on the other side, you need to- you need to replicate it on the other side, you need to take i other side, you need to take the independents— other side, you need to take the independents and - other side, you need to take the independents and the i the independents and the republicans _ the independents and the republicans who- the independents and the republicans who want - the independents and the - republicans who want nothing to do with— republicans who want nothing to do with him _ republicans who want nothing to do with him and _ republicans who want nothing to do with him and have _ republicans who want nothing to do with him and have them - republicans who want nothing to do with him and have them go i do with him and have them go out and — do with him and have them go out and vote _ do with him and have them go out and vote for— do with him and have them go out and vote forjoe _ do with him and have them go out and vote forjoe biden i do with him and have them go out and vote forjoe biden and then— out and vote forjoe biden and then you — out and vote forjoe biden and then you need _ out and vote forjoe biden and then you need to _ out and vote forjoe biden and then you need to get - out and vote forjoe biden and then you need to get the i out and vote forjoe biden and j then you need to get the tepid flank— then you need to get the tepid flank inside _ then you need to get the tepid flank inside biden's_ then you need to get the tepid flank inside biden's basin- then you need to get the tepid flank inside biden's basin go. flank inside biden's basin go out and _ flank inside biden's basin go out and vote _ flank inside biden's basin go out and vote for— flank inside biden's basin go out and vote forjoe - flank inside biden's basin go out and vote forjoe biden. i just— out and vote forjoe biden. i just think— out and vote forjoe biden. i just think it _ out and vote forjoe biden. i just think it is _ out and vote forjoe biden. i just think it is the _ out and vote forjoe biden. i just think it is the only - just think it is the only argument _ just think it is the only argument that- just think it is the only argument that makesl just think it is the only i argument that makes sense just think it is the only - argument that makes sense for democrats _ argument that makes sense for democrats to _ argument that makes sense for democrats to say— argument that makes sense for democrats to say if— argument that makes sense for democrats to say if we - argument that makes sense for democrats to say if we will- democrats to say if we will run, — democrats to say if we will run. that _ democrats to say if we will run. that is _ democrats to say if we will run, that is who _ democrats to say if we will run, that is who we - democrats to say if we will run, that is who we will. democrats to say if we will| run, that is who we will run against _ run, that is who we will run against but _ run, that is who we will run against but it— run, that is who we will run against but it is— run, that is who we will run against but it is not- run, that is who we will run against but it is not that i against but it is not that easy _ against but it is not that eas . , , easy. the biggest miscalculation i easy. the biggest i miscalculation there is easy. the biggest - miscalculation there is you easy. the biggest _ miscalculation there is you had everything in your favour when you lead him. you had a pandemic, you had to change the
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rules and the laws, you had a candidate with no record of nothing that we could attack and you won by 45,000 votes in three states. he has a record, you will not have a pandemic, live ballots going out all over the place, you will have people removing signature verifications, you will have a normal election and he has a record, it is not a good one. then there was generally the six. there are a lot of commentating factors. having said that, when you are the president, the buck stops with you _ president, the buck stops with you it — president, the buck stops with you it is — president, the buck stops with you it is a _ president, the buck stops with you. it is a drag on you, a lot of economic— you. it is a drag on you, a lot of economic problems started during — of economic problems started during covid, started on the previous— during covid, started on the previous president's watch but joe biden owns them now and has to run— joe biden owns them now and has to run with — joe biden owns them now and has to run with them.— to run with them. democrats should fear— to run with them. democrats should fear running - to run with them. democrats should fear running against i should fear running against donald _ should fear running against donald trump _ should fear running against donald trump i _ should fear running against donald trump i believe i should fear running against i donald trump i believe more than — donald trump i believe more than fear. _ donald trump i believe more than fear, fearing _ donald trump i believe more than fear, fearing nikki - donald trump i believe more. than fear, fearing nikki haley. poiling — than fear, fearing nikki haley. polling shows _ than fear, fearing nikki haley. polling shows nikki _ than fear, fearing nikki haley. polling shows nikki haley- polling shows nikki haley running _ polling shows nikki haley running ahead _ polling shows nikki haley running ahead of- polling shows nikki haley running ahead of when i polling shows nikki haley- running ahead of when donald trump — running ahead of when donald trump would _ running ahead of when donald trump would be _ running ahead of when donald trump would be and - running ahead of when donald trump would be and i- trump would be and i head—to—head - trump would be and i. head—to—head matchup, trump would be and i- head—to—head matchup, but trump would be and i— head—to—head matchup, but what donald _ head—to—head matchup, but what donald trump _ head—to—head matchup, but what donald trump brings _ head—to—head matchup, but what donald trump brings out, - head—to—head matchup, but what donald trump brings out, and ii donald trump brings out, and i saw this— donald trump brings out, and i saw this in— donald trump brings out, and i saw this in 2018 _ donald trump brings out, and i saw this in 2018 to _ donald trump brings out, and i saw this in 2018 to 20 - donald trump brings out, and i
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saw this in 2018 to 20 eight - donald trump brings out, and i saw this in 2018 to 20 eight ——| saw this in 2018 to 20 eight —— 2020, — saw this in 2018 to 20 eight —— 2020, brings— saw this in 2018 to 20 eight —— 2020, brings out _ saw this in 2018 to 20 eight —— 2020, brings out those - saw this in 2018 to 20 eight —— 2020, brings out those votersl 2020, brings out those voters that _ 2020, brings out those voters that will— 2020, brings out those voters that will only _ 2020, brings out those voters that will only come _ 2020, brings out those voters that will only come to - 2020, brings out those voters that will only come to the i that will only come to the ballot _ that will only come to the ballot box _ that will only come to the ballot box to _ that will only come to the ballot box to vote - that will only come to the ballot box to vote for - that will only come to the ballot box to vote for him that will only come to the - ballot box to vote for him and they— ballot box to vote for him and they vote _ ballot box to vote for him and they vote republican - ballot box to vote for him and they vote republican up - ballot box to vote for him and they vote republican up and i they vote republican up and down — they vote republican up and down that _ they vote republican up and down. that is _ they vote republican up and down. that is why— they vote republican up and down. that is why we - they vote republican up and down. that is why we as - down. that is why we as republicans _ down. that is why we as republicans in - down. that is why we as republicans in the - down. that is why we as . republicans in the housing 2020, _ republicans in the housing 2020, we _ republicans in the housing 2020, we were _ republicans in the housing 2020, we were supposed i republicans in the housing. 2020, we were supposed to republicans in the housing - 2020, we were supposed to lose 15 to _ 2020, we were supposed to lose 15 to 25 — 2020, we were supposed to lose 15 to 25 seats, _ 2020, we were supposed to lose 15 to 25 seats, including - 2020, we were supposed to lose 15 to 25 seats, including mine. . 15 to 25 seats, including mine. we picked _ 15 to 25 seats, including mine. we picked up _ 15 to 25 seats, including mine. we picked op15~ _ 15 to 25 seats, including mine. we picked up 15. because - 15 to 25 seats, including mine. we picked up 15. because of. we picked up15. because of that— we picked up 15. because of that surge _ we picked up 15. because of that surge. nikki _ we picked up 15. because of that surge. nikki haley- we picked up 15. because of. that surge. nikki haley would not drive _ that surge. nikki haley would not drive those _ that surge. nikki haley would not drive those voters - that surge. nikki haley would not drive those voters out. i not drive those voters out. donald _ not drive those voters out. donald trump _ not drive those voters out. donald trump does. - not drive those voters out. donald trump does. me i not drive those voters out. donald trump does. we don't know... the _ donald trump does. we don't know... the point _ donald trump does. we don't know... the point you - donald trump does. we don't know... the point you are - know... the point you are making as we do know what he can bring out, she is an unknown entity. but there is a lot to discuss on that. the other issue is the issue of rice president. the former status and for mike pence, you can firmly confirm... status and for mike pence, you can firmly confirm. . ._ can firmly confirm... pretty much. can firmly confirm... pretty much- i _ can firmly confirm... pretty much. i don't— can firmly confirm... pretty much. i don't speak - can firmly confirm... pretty much. i don't speak for - can firmly confirm... pretty much. i don't speak for the i much. i don't speak for the president or his campaign but he has been pretty clear on that one. it will be an important choice but i think two things are important. nobody votes for the bottom of the ticket, you vote for the top of the ticket... although,
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when you _ top of the ticket... although, when you look _ top of the ticket... although, when you look at _ top of the ticket... although, when you look at two - top of the ticket... although, i when you look at two candidates who have issues, if we call it that, in this election, 20 age and court liabilities, will people look at the... with more scrutiny? i people look at the... with more scrutin ? ., �* ~' people look at the... with more scrutin ? ., �* ~ . scrutiny? i don't think we have had a legitimate _ scrutiny? i don't think we have had a legitimate questioning i scrutiny? i don't think we have | had a legitimate questioning of the credibility or the ability of a vice presidential nominee really since sarah palen back into thousand and eight. agree, disagree with mike pence, kamala harris, joe biden or paul ryan, if that would have happened, no—one would have questioned that they would have been qualified or capable of stepping in for being president. i wouldn't expect that to be an issue. every vice president regardless of party fills a perceived need in the campaign of the candidate for president, whether it is demographic, geographic, a policy area where they may be, the example i use is the only reason why barack 0bama does not barack 0bama chosejoe biden. it was because delaware
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was in play. it was because a senator who had only been in office a couple of years, people thought maybe we will give him some help on foreign policy, and sit in a chair as his vice resident.— policy, and sit in a chair as his vice resident. the way tim scott was _ his vice resident. the way tim scott was sitting _ his vice resident. the way tim scott was sitting behind - his vice resident. the way tim | scott was sitting behind donald trump — scott was sitting behind donald trump like elf on a shelf, he thinks — trump like elf on a shelf, he thinks he _ trump like elf on a shelf, he thinks he might feel the need for donald trump. thinks he might feelthe need for donald trump.— thinks he might feelthe need for donald trump. there are a lot of folks — for donald trump. there are a lot of folks who _ for donald trump. there are a lot of folks who think - for donald trump. there are a lot of folks who think they - lot of folks who think they would feel the need for donald trump, aren't there? there are two governors of arkansas and dakota seem to be the hot tips. we will get into that in the next hour. so much to discuss. you can stay up—to—date. the latest 2024 primary results and highlights from the campaign trail on our bbc news live page at bbc.com/news. we will continue our social coverage of the republican new hampshire primary next hour. to stay with us here on bbc news. with storm isha still fresh in the memory, it has turned into yet another stormy night of weather across many parts of the uk. this time, the culprit is storm jocelyn.
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you can see this swirl of cloud here on our earlier satellite picture, the centre of a deep area of low pressure. this met office amber warning enforced to start wednesday across northern and western parts of scotland. gusts of up to 80mph in exposed spots, bringing the risk of damage and disruption. but a windy start to wednesday across just about all parts of the uk, so those winds could cause problems if you are travelling early in the morning. low pressure then crossing to the north of the uk. all these white lines, all these isobars still squeezing together as we head into wednesday morning proper. so gales to start the day across parts of scotland and northern england especially. those winds will slowly ease as the day wears on, but i think it will stay particularly gusty into the afternoon to the eastern side of the pennines. some showers around, particularly across scotland, northern ireland, northern england. many of those will fade. we will see a decent amount of sunshine through the day, albeit that sunshine turning quite hazy, with high clouds streaming in from the south. another mild day —
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9 to 12 degrees. now, during wednesday night, we will see this band of cloud and some outbreaks of patchy rain pushing northwards and eastwards. ahead of that, some clear spells. could see some fog patches developing across parts of northern england and scotland, at least for a time. and some murky conditions developing across parts of wales, southwest england, around coasts and hills, as the air turns increasingly mild. those are the temperatures to start thursday morning. so on thursday, this warm front pushing its way northwards. outbreaks of rain with that, and this feed of southwesterly winds behind a wedge of really very mild air indeed. so a pretty mild feeling day on thursday, but with extensive cloud cover. some outbreaks of rain pushing northeastward, briefly some snow over high ground in scotland, but that won't last long, should mostly turn back to rain. a few brighter glimpses, particularly to the east of high ground, anywhere where you get some shelter from the winds. but those temperatures easily 9 to 13 degrees. i wouldn't be at all surprised if somewhere got just a little bit higher than that. and then as we head
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in new hampshire, where donald trump just captured another early state win. tonight the former president took a victory lap with two of his former rivals, vivek ramaswamy and senator tim scott in tow. his team will be celebrating this win, especially since no non—incumbent has ever won both the iowa caucuses and the new hampshire primary — and then lost the nomination. of course, donald trump isn't your typical non—incumbent candidate. so was it the knock—out blow trump was hoping for? here's his take. we one boat. they said, somebody said if you win both, they never had a loser, let me put it that way. when you win iowa and new hampshire, they never had a loss. but, nikki haley insists she has the best chance of beating joe biden. she's vowing to continue her fight for the republican nomination in her home state of south carolina, a primary that is just a few weeks away.
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