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they said of barryjohn. "an absolute icon who will be dearly missed. long live the king." that's all from sportsday. here in the uk, the mother of brianna ghey, the 16—year—old who was murdered by two other teenagers, is calling for a ban on access to social media apps for under—16s. esther ghey said the internet was out of control and children needed to be protected. her daughter's killers, scarlettjenkinson and eddie ratcliffe, were jailed for life on friday. she also wants parents to be able to see what they're children are accessing social media on their mobile phones, as noor nanji reports. she was absolutely full of life. she was such a character. she was she was really, really outgoing. and she just she loved attention. she loved to be on tiktok. she loved having all of the likes that she used to receive. and she was the life and soul of the party, really. and everybody knew brianna. and anybody who ever met brianna
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would never forget her. you were in court, then, to hear the sentencing on friday of the two teenagers who took brianna's life. what was it like, being there? it was a difficult day, and it was hard to be in the courtroom because up until now we were in a public gallery, so we couldn't really see both scarlett and eddie. i made a conscious effort not to look at them both. i didn't want to see their faces. i didn't want to directly look at them and see what their reactions were. i feel that the sentence that the judge gave them was right. i don't think that scarlett will come out of prison, ever. i don't think there's any chance of rehabilitation. so i think that the sentencing was correct. she was given a minimum of 22 years. eddie ratcliffe was given
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a minimum of 20 years. do you think you would ever... can you ever imagine a time when you might forgive what they did? i don't carry any hate for either of them, because hate is such a harmful emotion to the person that's holding that. but with regards to forgiving them, i think that... no, no, no, not really. it's incredible to hear you say, though, you carry no hatred towards them, even though they took the life of your daughter. you know, they planned it. they discussed it on messaging apps. you know that scarlett had been on the dark web watching videos of violence and torture. and i think you've just shown then, again, that extraordinary compassion that people around the country have seen in the last few weeks. scarlett�*s mother has thanked
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you for your compassion. i wonder, did you see her in court? i've seen her, but we haven't come face to face. but when i think of their emotions and how they're feeling, itjust brings back how i felt when all this happened in february. because, you know, she looks completely broken, really. and rightly so. she's going through an absolutely horrific time. one of the things you've been extremely careful not to do is to allow brianna's death to be swept into what's often a very difficult conversation about how transgender people are treated. you did say, though, in your statement to the court that this happened partly because one of the teenagers did have a hatred for transgender people. now the court process is complete, do you believe that played a role? i believe that with eddie, there was hate there. there was hate for trans people.
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but i also think that he is a hateful boy, and i think that he would hate many people regardless. so whether it was... i think it was a contributing factor. but i think he's just a hateful person. you have shown incredible strength in this terrible ordeal, that you and your family have been through. but i know now you want to turn your attention to some of the things that you would like to see change, to help other families and other teenagers with the challenges of living in the 21st century. what is it that you would like to change? so, i would like to see mobile phone companies take more responsibility. it's so difficult for parents now to safeguard their children. they carry a mobile phone in their pocket 21w. it's a smartphone with the internet,
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with all the different social media sites. and it's just so difficult to keep on top of what they're doing. so we've set up a petition which we'd like all families and parents to back and sign. we'd like a law introduced so that there are mobile phones that are suitable for under 16s. so if you're over 16, you can have an adult phone, but under the age of 16 you can have a children's phone which will not have all of the social media apps that are out there now. and also to have software that's automatically downloaded on a parent's phone, which links the children's phone and it can highlight key words. so if a child is searching the kind of words that scarlett
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and eddie were searching, it would then flag up on the parents�* phone. there is software already available. i know that schools are already using this kind of software so that if students do type something in that's concerning, it then flags up to the teachers. i feel like it's such a simple solution and i don't understand why we haven't actually done something like this already. why do you think that's needed? so, when brianna was was with us, she struggled with her mental health. and i found out after she was actually on certain social media sites, on pro—anorexia sites and self—harm sites, which i wasn't aware of. it got to, when brianna turned around 14, it was so difficult to monitor her phone because she wanted that trust. and she was very protective over her phone. if she couldn't have accessed these sites, she wouldn't have suffered as much. and like i said, they carry
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this phone around 21w, and it's just not doable for a parent to monitor that. do you think if some of those safeguards had been in place now and there was a flagging system that might have picked up what scarlett and eddie were searching for, that brianna might have been safe? yeah. yeah, without a doubt. i think that, for either one, they wouldn't have been searching that in the first place. and, two, if they did search it, then the parents would know and they'd be able to get them some kind of help. one of the other things you'd like to see is teaching kids mindfulness in schools, to help them deal more with the challenges that come to us all. tell us what you would like to see. and i know also in warrington, in your town, you've managed already to raise lots of money to put this in place in local schools. yes, yes. so i've been campaigning with the warrington guardian to raise enough money to get a teacher in every school in warrington trained in mindfulness.
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it's such an important thing to be taught how to take care of your mental health, how to build mental resilience, and also how to be more empathetic. like, all of these things are skills that you can work on and that you can grow. well, we've got the education secretary on the programme today. i mean, what would you say to gillian keegan? would you want her to make it happen in every school? yeah, definitely. i think that mindfulness needs to be... really, ideally, we don't need, we shouldn't only have one mindfulness teacher in every school. it should be completely embedded into the school system. and also this week, we saw parents in america confront mark zuckerberg, the boss of meta, which of course, owns facebook, and instagram and lots of those other big apps. if he was here, what would you say to him or other social media bosses? i think that the focus is always
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on making such a lot of money, and not really how we protect people, or how we can necessarily benefit society. and i think that greed needs to be taken out of the picture, and we need to focus a little bit more on how we can help each other. and, yeah, it was such a powerful thing to see the parents all standing up to them. it's quite out of control. i heard somebody once call the internet the wild west, and that's basically what it is. and we've kind of got our children, we threw them in, in the deep end of it. and, yes, something needs to change now. and i do feel like we are potentially at a tipping point where we can make things better. hello. it's been a mild weekend for most of the uk.
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it for most of the uk. is going to become much colde next it is going to become much colder by next weekend. the cold air sittings of the north—west and that will sink southwards this week as it does so coinciding with low pressure and could give some disruptive snow which we are keeping our eye on. rain is the main concern at the moment, this conveyor belt of cloud running into scotland is going to give a lot more rain before is finished. throughout this evening quite wet across western, central and southern scotland, pushing a bit further northwards as we go through the night and as it engages in the cold air in the far north of scotland some mountain snow. we could have had as much as 170 millimetres of rainfall during this rainfall event and increases the risk of flooding. while the further south, 8—10 c, still the cold air with us in the northern isles so some frost and ice and a bit wintry. but again, that rain is still with us throughout monday. very misty and murky around the coasts and hills in
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western areas elsewhere, but it might be that there will be a few brighter spells breaking through because again it is a strong and gusty wind blowing for the most part during the day on monday. temperatures, though, still on the low side across the northern isles whilst elsewhere it is mild. temperatures well above the average for this time of year, 5—8 c. monday evening and overnight at the weather front may push further southwards allowing that colder air and the risk of frost with some mice following the rain to establish itself across scotland. but elsewhere it stays mild, it stays windy and pretty cloudy with wetter weather coming into southern scotland, northern ireland and northern england by the end of the night for the start of tuesday. to the south of that still mild and largely dry but murkier with the hills and the rain makes its way southwards during the day and could give a bit of snow over the high ground of northern england and northern ireland as the cold air starts to dig in. there is lots of uncertainty thereafter, even after the weather front clears away temporarily we could see the next
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areas of low pressure spinning up into the cold air giving us rain and wind but also potentially some disruptive snowfall as well. so a lot of uncertainty mid week. please stay tuned to the forecast. bye—bye.
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live from london, this is bbc news. the uk says iran will be held accountable for the actions of its proxies after us and british forces strike new houthi targets in yemen. prime minister rishi sunak begins his visit to northern ireland marking the restoration of the power—sharing devolved government. and abdul ezedi — accused of attacking a woman and her daughters with chemicals — the police have offered a £20,000 reward. chile's president says the number of lives lost in the deadliest wildfire on record in the country has risen to 64 and will increase further. and facebook marks its 20th anniversary, having risen from a network for students at a single university to one of the biggest internet platforms in the world.

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