rafah with the israeli and rafah with the israeli offensive?— and rafah with the israeli offensive? ,, , , a, and rafah with the israeli offensive? ,, , , i, , offensive? surely it is time to stop all arms shipments _ offensive? surely it is time to stop all arms shipments to _ offensive? surely it is time to stop all arms shipments to israel- offensive? surely it is time to stop all arms shipments to israel as - offensive? surely it is time to stop all arms shipments to israel as a l all arms shipments to israel as a dutch court has demanded that state do and implement targeted sanctions against members of the israeli leadership, particularly those calling for new settlements in gaza and on the west bank. i calling for new settlements in gaza and on the west bank.— and on the west bank. i thank the lady commission _ and on the west bank. i thank the lady commission after _ and on the west bank. i thank the lady commission after number - lady commission after number questions. the cake she raises is completely tragic in what is happening and as it is tragic, we want to see an end to this killing. let me make this point, the pores we are calling for, we want to turn into a ceasefire by making sure that the conditions are right for getting a stop in the fighting to mean a permanent ceasefire. the way you do thatis permanent ceasefire. the way you do that is fulfilling a number of conditions, you have got to get enough our view the hamas leaders out or any ceasefire won't last because the problem will still be there. you have to dismantle the operation of terrorist attacks. you have to have a new palestinian

authority government in place, you have to give the palestinian people a political horizon to a better future and a two state solution. crucially you have to release all of the hostages and do that very quickly. she asked whether we challenge the israel government over individual episodes, yes, we do, i have done that personally with them ever and building that was bombed that had uk medics and other charities and will continue to do that as part of very important process we go through to judge whether they are in compliance with humanitarian law. is whether they are in compliance with humanitarian law.— humanitarian law. is the minister aware of any _ humanitarian law. is the minister aware of any moves _ humanitarian law. is the minister aware of any moves by _ humanitarian law. is the minister aware of any moves by hamas i humanitarian law. is the minister aware of any moves by hamas to j aware of any moves by hamas to protect the children of gaza? currency is by releasing the hostages or indeed stopping attacks on israel and the leaders fleeing to the gulf? is he aware of any moves? i agree with everything he has said. he makes a good point, it is worth remembering that on the 7th of october, 29 children were killed by hamas and 39 children were taken

hostage. they still remain hostages today. it is right that in this house will keep asking what else israel should do but we should also at the very same time say what hamas should do which is to lay down their weapons and stop right now. they could stop this fight immediately. as the noble lord aware that the idf have suggested that they are in no rush to enter into rafah and that they will delay possibly until after ramadan and that meanwhile the negotiators in cairo can continue add that this gives a chance for hamas to release the hostages and for the conflict to stop? that hamas to release the hostages and for the conflict to stop?— for the conflict to stop? that is absolute right. _ for the conflict to stop? that is absolute right. i— for the conflict to stop? that is absolute right. i believe - for the conflict to stop? that is absolute right. i believe those| absolute right. i believe those discussions are under way and it is a great pity that they didn't reach that conclusion the last time they were under way. that is the best outcome we could seek, which is an immediate stop in the pointing, let's hope that this top is for as long as possible, i thick that

israel was content to offer a one for six weeks in terms of a pause. then we need the momentum to turn that pours into a permanent ceasefire without a return to the fighting. that should be our goal. the pores is necessary to get the aid in and hostages out.- the pores is necessary to get the aid in and hostages out. unicef have said today that _ aid in and hostages out. unicef have said today that 600,000 _ aid in and hostages out. unicef have said today that 600,000 children i aid in and hostages out. unicef have l said today that 600,000 children are displaced within rafah. crosstalk there is plenty of time, let's hear from the noble lord. i there is plenty of time, let's hear from the noble lord.— there is plenty of time, let's hear from the noble lord. i am grateful for the chief _ from the noble lord. i am grateful for the chief whip. _ from the noble lord. i am grateful for the chief whip. unicef - from the noble lord. i am grateful for the chief whip. unicef has - from the noble lord. i am grateful for the chief whip. unicef has said today that 600,000 children are displaced within rafah in gaza. that is comparable to the entire under 12 population of scotland being displaced to one postcode area. does the foreign secretary agree with me that any belligerence in the conflict that advises children and

civilians to relocate on the pretext of their safety but relocate to an area where there is no shelter, no water, no medicine and weather is no security guarantees, is a war crime? what i would say is what i said yesterday when i was in scotland which is the people who are in rafah on many occasions have already moved to three, four or five times. it is not possible to move again, they cannot go north because they would be going back to homes that have been destroyed, they can go south because that would involve going into egypt which none of us want to see, the egyptians don't want to see, the egyptians don't want to see, it is important that the israeli stop and think before going ahead with any operations in rafah. lord, does the noble lord the foreign secretary agree that the huge number of civilian casualties in gaza is deeply damaging to the reputation of israel itself? and will he therefore take action to

promote a change of strategy by the israelis, taking up the other measures that he has mentioned for as long as so many thousands of civilians are being killed, then that has to stop. i civilians are being killed, then that has to stop.— civilians are being killed, then that has to stop. i view right from the start is _ that has to stop. i view right from the start is that _ that has to stop. i view right from the start is that while _ that has to stop. i view right from the start is that while israel - that has to stop. i view right from the start is that while israel has l that has to stop. i view right from the start is that while israel has a j the start is that while israel has a right to defend itself, and the attacks on october seven where unappealing attack on a xhaka is worth remembering it was the biggest programme since the holocaust in terms of the loss of life ofjewish people, we shouldn't forget that. how that is a tragedy, they had every right to respond to, and to try and prevent happening again, they must obey international humanitarian law, and let's be clear, that involves not only what the idf do in terms of how they prosecute their actions in terms of this war, it also means as they are the occupying power in gaza that they have to make sure that your monitoring aid, food and water and shelter are available to people in

gaza because if they don't do that, that would be a breach of international humanitarian law as well. ., ,, . ., , , well. the foreign secretary is ri . ht, well. the foreign secretary is right. the _ well. the foreign secretary is right, the priority _ well. the foreign secretary is right, the priority has - well. the foreign secretary is right, the priority has to - well. the foreign secretary is right, the priority has to be i right, the priority has to be securing an immediate extended pause in fighting to ensure we can get aid in, hostages out and create room for a long—term sustainable ceasefire followed by an even longer—term resolution. but there are currently almost 1.5 million displaced palestinians in rafah. it is the main root vitamin a taina —— route. any further israeli offensive in rafah would be catastrophic. the situation is getting more urgent by the hour. i know he has been working to establish a contact group of regional and international leaders who would influence both sides. can he offer any progress on that or their ability currently to try and influence events?— their ability currently to try and influence events? what i can say to the noble lady _

influence events? what i can say to the noble lady is _ influence events? what i can say to the noble lady is that _ influence events? what i can say to the noble lady is that at _ influence events? what i can say to the noble lady is that at the - influence events? what i can say to the noble lady is that at the munich security conference on friday there will be a meeting of the key european countries that helped to fund the occupied palestinian territories and the key arab states and gulf states that are working to help support a future palestinian authority, and we hope the secretary of state of the us will be there. this isn't the formation of a contact group, there are another of countries particularly in the arab world that understandably nervous about meeting in advance of a proper ceasefire and plan towards a cessation of hostilities, but i think we are under way to getting this group, which i know she has long called for, up and running. there are lots of things we need to start talking about now, whether thatis start talking about now, whether that is what happens the day after a pause, a reconstituted palestinian authority or this question of how you offer a political horizon to people in the palestinian territories or how we deal with

israel's very real security concerns, and if there is a pause and ceasefire, how do make sure the people responsible for october the 7th cannot remain in gaza and the infrastructure of terrorist taken down? ~ u, infrastructure of terrorist taken down? ~ ., ., ~ down? medical aid, thank you, alonuside down? medical aid, thank you, alongside medical _ down? medical aid, thank you, alongside medical aid, - down? medical aid, thank you, alongside medical aid, on - down? medical aid, thank you, alongside medical aid, on one| alongside medical aid, on one particle step the government could take with an immediate impact would be to support medical care to children injured in gaza on a temporary basis in the uk. i know my noble friend and his department happy looking at this possibility and i would be grateful if you could update us on progress. j and i would be grateful if you could update us on progress.— update us on progress. i want to thank my noble _ update us on progress. i want to thank my noble friend _ update us on progress. i want to thank my noble friend for - update us on progress. i want to thank my noble friend for that. l update us on progress. i want to l thank my noble friend for that. we are looking at the project closely, is it possible to take the people with greatest need and bring them to british hospitals as we have done in the past? i think i would say the early work we have done is to say that there is much we can do in the region and we should do that first, helping in the field hospitals that have been established, helping to

send medical teams to referral hospitals that are being used in the region, supporting organisations. if that leads to the identification of specific cases where they would be better off taking that long journey back to britain and going to great all or elsewhere, we certainly don't rule that out and will continue to look at it. i rule that out and will continue to look at it. , ., ., ., ., ,~' look at it. i beg to leave to ask the question — look at it. i beg to leave to ask the question to _ look at it. i beg to leave to ask the question to my _ look at it. i beg to leave to ask the question to my name - look at it. i beg to leave to ask the question to my name on i look at it. i beg to leave to ask. the question to my name on the look at it. i beg to leave to ask- the question to my name on the order paper. it the question to my name on the order -a er. , the question to my name on the order .a er, , , . paper. it is unprecedented partnership _ paper. it is unprecedented partnership that _ paper. it is unprecedented partnership that is - paper. it is unprecedented partnership that is central| paper. it is unprecedented l partnership that is central to deliverance and contempt asperity for the uk and our partners in the into pacific and euro atlantic. we are making significant progress to deliver nuclear powered submarines for the uk and australia and we're deepening cooperation with cutting—edge technologies. studio: we will stay with lord cameron as he answers questions, a succession of questions about the situation in gaza, specifically the first question about the children of gaza,

a lot of priority and focus on that, but david cameron talking about the priority being extended, a pause in hostilities to get aid in and hostages out, so he is talking about the focus, concentration on that. he was asked the question about unicef and 600,000 children, that is a report from unicef being displaced in rafah, which was now equivalent to all of the population under the age of 12 scotland being in one postcode area. that is how one of the laws described it to get people an idea of what they were actually talking about, invited lord cameron to define the movement or forced movement is a war crime. the foreign secretary and avoiding that and repeating what he said about the situation in gaza and for the need

for israel to think and pause about what it was doing, israel he said had every right to respond to the attacks on october the 7th but must act within international humanitarian law. some of those some of the latest questions being asked of the latest questions being asked of the latest questions being asked of the foreign secretary. we will keep an ear across that, anything more significant we will return to it. breaking news, further details from turkey, nine miners are missing after a landslide and mining operation in turkey, some of the first pictures, that the energy ministry saying investor efforts are under way at the mine in one of the eastern provinces of the country. to keep us interior minister adding about 400 search and rescue workers have been deployed to the incident.

the government says an investigation has been launched into what happened. these some of the first pictures from that area, a huge search that is now in place, but they are saying that nine miners are missing after this landslide. we continue to watch those events and learn more details, and where there is more in, these the first pictures of theirs disaster with nine miners said to be still missing. turning from turkey to the us. to the us, where the senate has approved a $95 billion aid package for ukraine, israel and taiwan. the approval comes after months of political wrangling — as senate republicans remained divided on the bill and previously voted it down. the bill now heads to the republican—controlled house of representatives, where its fate remains unclear.

president biden has urged the us house to pass the bill to oppose what he describes as tyrants. chuck schumer has been talking in the last while, let's hear. today, the senate keeps its word to ukrainians in need, desperate need of supplies and ammunition. to innocent palestinian civilians in need. so much need of relief. to israelis tn need of support. and to us service members on patrol in the indo—pacific, to israelis in need of support. the red sea and around the world. today we sent a clear bipartisan message of resolve to our allies in nato. with the strong bipartisan vote in the senate, it's clear that if speakerjohnson brings this bill to the house floor, it will pass with that same bipartisan support. the responsibility now falls on speakerjohnson and house republicans, to approve this bill swiftly.

and i call on speakerjohnson to rise to the occasion. to do the right thing. bring this bill to the floor. as i said, given the large, robust majority here in the senate, it is clear that if that bill is brought to the floor, our bill is brought to the floor, it will pass. but if the hard right kills this bill, it would be an enormous gift to vladimir putin. it would be a betrayal of our partners and allies, and an abandonment of our service members. and as i said, i believe if this bill is brought to the house floor, it will pass with strong bipartisan support. there are large numbers of democrats and republicans in the house who know we have to stand up to our responsibilities and aid ukraine.

that was chuck schumer in his plea, but as he was saying, this goes back to the house of representatives and that is where the block for this bill currently is whether house speaker and donald trump supporters who continue to block the ill. they have tried —— tied the situation to the border security in the south of the us and efforts by democrats to resolve that. again haven't worked. that is the fundamental roadblock this bill has been hitting. you heard a little bit of depreciation there from chuck schumer. joe biden has been talking about the development in the last little while, he said, if we do not stand against tyrants who seek to conquer or cover up their neighbours' territory, the consequences for america's national security will be significant. our allies and adversaries alike will take note. it is time for the house to take action and said this

bipartisan legislation to my desk immediately so i can sign it into law. that is what the president wants, that is what the democrats want, currently the roadblock is with the house. we'll have more on that story a little later in the programme. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. snowdrops and shepton mallet. together they go hand—in—hand. it all stems to this man, james allen. born and bred in the town, he grew up born and bred in the town, he grew up and spread the word about these tiny white plants in victorian times. ~ ., tiny white plants in victorian times. a, ., tiny white plants in victorian times. ., , ., times. move to this house, later in life, this is — times. move to this house, later in life, this is where _ times. move to this house, later in life, this is where he _ times. move to this house, later in life, this is where he died. - times. move to this house, later in life, this is where he died. aged i life, this is where he died. aged 76. and several— life, this is where he died. aged 76. and several years _ life, this is where he died. aged 76. and several years ago, - life, this is where he died. aged 76. and several years ago, they created a special festival to celebrate their own snowdrop king. they crop up everywhere and this

year there is a snowdrop grotto created by local artists. aha, year there is a snowdrop grotto created by local artists.- year there is a snowdrop grotto created by local artists. a lot of creative people _ created by local artists. a lot of creative people in _ created by local artists. a lot of creative people in shepton, - created by local artists. a lot of creative people in shepton, a l created by local artists. a lot of| creative people in shepton, a lot created by local artists. a lot of - creative people in shepton, a lot of people that are interested in the snowdrops and their history. 50. snowdrops and their history. so, eah, snowdrops and their history. so, yeah. really _ snowdrops and their history. so, yeah, really taking off. make some snowdrops, stop it in there, good. for more _ snowdrops, stop it in there, good. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. the only intact chicken's egg found from roman britain is now thought to be the only one of its type in the world — after scientists found it still had liquid inside. the egg, which is about 1,700 years old, was found during a dig in aylesbury in buckinghamshire. researchers said they were "blown away" recently to find it still contained the yolk and egg white. let's speak to douglas russell, senior curator museum, in london.

welcome to the programme. this is an absolutely incredible story and it dates back a few years, because they found this egg in that dig in bucks a few years ago. they actually physically brought it by hand on the tube to the natural history museum, pick so up the story from there. how surprised where you when they turned up surprised where you when they turned up with this egg? tote surprised where you when they turned up with this egg?— up with this egg? we were very surprised. _ up with this egg? we were very surprised. so — up with this egg? we were very surprised, so it _ up with this egg? we were very surprised, so it was _ up with this egg? we were very surprised, so it was a _ up with this egg? we were very surprised, so it was a very - up with this egg? we were very i surprised, so it was a very unusual request. i look after about 300,000 clutches of eggs here at the national history museum, and we were rorting because of our egg identification skills and in terms of helping the team find a way of conserving it in future. so it was an unusual request and certainly not something that has happened to me on the 21 years that i have worked for

the 21 years that i have worked for the museum. i’m the 21 years that i have worked for the museum-— the museum. i'm sure that's true! tell me what _ the museum. i'm sure that's true! tell me what you _ the museum. i'm sure that's true! tell me what you did _ the museum. i'm sure that's true! tell me what you did then, - the museum. i'm sure that's true! | tell me what you did then, because you used absolutely the most up—to—date tech to actually make the discovery of what actually was inside of this egg, take me through that. ., inside of this egg, take me through that. . ., ., , , that. the egg had already been ct scan, so that. the egg had already been ct scan. so the _ that. the egg had already been ct scan. so the ct — that. the egg had already been ct scan, so the ct scanning - that. the egg had already been ct scan, so the ct scanning is - that. the egg had already been ct scan, so the ct scanning is a i that. the egg had already been ct scan, so the ct scanning is a wayl that. the egg had already been ct | scan, so the ct scanning is a way of taking lots of little x—rays and stitching that all together within the computer to give a three—dimensional image of the interior of the egg. we are not quite clear about the present time exactly what the material is when you pick the egg up, there is a sloshing sound, certainly liquid in there. we're trying to determine exactly that is. but the first and most important part of the work is trying to work out how we stabilise it long—term in order to take on some other research ideas that we have. �* ., ., ., ,

have. before i get to that, inside the en . have. before i get to that, inside the egg you _ have. before i get to that, inside the egg you have _ have. before i get to that, inside the egg you have established i have. before i get to that, inside i the egg you have established there is liquid and air sacs, is that right? is liquid and air sacs, is that riuht? ~ ~' ., is liquid and air sacs, is that riuht? ~ ~ ., , ., right? we know there is liquid and air, that right? we know there is liquid and air. that is — right? we know there is liquid and air. that is as _ right? we know there is liquid and air, that is as far _ right? we know there is liquid and air, that is as far as _ right? we know there is liquid and air, that is as far as we _ right? we know there is liquid and air, that is as far as we can - right? we know there is liquid and air, that is as far as we can take i air, that is as far as we can take it at the moment. but, yes, after 1700 years, what you would expect an eggsheu 1700 years, what you would expect an eggshell is a company coat with the yoke inside, the yolk and is held in the middle of the egg, what we probably have here is something which has long since decomposed and thatis which has long since decomposed and that is what we need to work out exactly what is inside. it is exactly what is inside. it is absolutely _ exactly what is inside. it is absolutely astonishing. in terms of this discovery, is it the old egg, to your knowledge, with contents anywhere in the world? —— oldest. so anywhere in the world? -- oldest. so we anywhere in the world? —— oldest. 5r we have eggs here that are older, probably, those are that is in a

taken from the pyramids in egypt. what this is is the oldest unintentionally preserved egg that we have ever come across. so there is a very different scenario. we have got three ages of eggs that we have got three ages of eggs that we have in the museum collections. one is which were deliberately collected as part of natural history and natural science which go back to the 16005. natural science which go back to the 1600s. then we have eggs which were deliberately reserved as part of ritual purposes. then there which was certainly deposited as part of a ritual as far as we are aware, but it is just very unusual circumstances by which the soil has kept it intact for this long. that is incredible. it kept it intact for this long. that is incredible.— is incredible. it really is astonishing. _ is incredible. it really is astonishing. douglas, l is incredible. it really is i astonishing. douglas, thank is incredible. it really is - astonishing. douglas, thank you is incredible. it really is _ astonishing. douglas, thank you for joining us on the programme. i will take you back to the house of lords where david cameron is been asked a question about what he said a week

orso question about what he said a week or so ago about the uk considering recognising a palestinian state. let's have a listen.— let's have a listen. playing into iran's let's have a listen. playing into lran's hands — let's have a listen. playing into iran's hands and _ let's have a listen. playing into iran's hands and perhaps i iran's hands and perhaps jeopardising the chances for a long—term sustainable peace. i long—term sustainable peace. i absolutely understand where my noble friend is coming from. i would just say that of course it isn't rewarding hamas, they don't believe in a two state solution, they believe in the destruction of israel. my point is that if you look at the whole point of a two state solution, to create long—term sustainable peace, i think the last 30 years have shown that we will not solve this problem without a solution that gives dignity and security to palestinian people as well as giving vital security to israel. i say this is a strong friend of israel, this is the right approach and we should pursue it. after israel withdrew from gaza in 2005... sorry, i... i

after israel withdrew from gaza in 2005... sorry, |..._ after israel withdrew from gaza in 2005... sorry, i... iwelcome very stronal 2005... sorry, i... iwelcome very strongly the _ 2005... sorry, i... iwelcome very strongly the continued _ 2005... sorry, i... iwelcome very strongly the continued emphasis l 2005... sorry, i... iwelcome very. strongly the continued emphasis by the secretary of state on the two state _ the secretary of state on the two state solution and also his condemnation of the hamas terrorist group _ condemnation of the hamas terrorist group and _ condemnation of the hamas terrorist group and his call for the liberation of hostages, as was echoed — liberation of hostages, as was echoed in_ liberation of hostages, as was echoed in a statement this morning from the _ echoed in a statement this morning from the bishops. but it is not only in gaza _ from the bishops. but it is not only in gaza that — from the bishops. but it is not only in gaza that we are seeing tragedy, we are _ in gaza that we are seeing tragedy, we are seeing it also in the west bank _ we are seeing it also in the west bank. there it is almost forgotten that very— bank. there it is almost forgotten that very large numbers of palestinians have been killed by people — palestinians have been killed by people who live in illegal settlements. one other country's most _ settlements. one other country's most affected by that is the kingdom ofjordan_ most affected by that is the kingdom ofjordan and is, walk support is majesty's— ofjordan and is, walk support is majesty's government giving to the kingdom _ majesty's government giving to the kingdom ofjordan, given its vulnerability and significant responsibility as guardian of the holy places, which, if they come

under— holy places, which, if they come under significant pressure, would widen— under significant pressure, would widen the — under significant pressure, would widen the conflict are paul langley and dramatically? and second, in the practicalities for them of preparing for aiding — practicalities for them of preparing for aiding a practicalities for them of preparing foraiding a two practicalities for them of preparing for aiding a two state solution, where — for aiding a two state solution, where the _ for aiding a two state solution, where the flow of refugees towards them, _ where the flow of refugees towards them, adding up taking something like half— them, adding up taking something like half the population of refugees, would be a very threatening process for their destabilisation. | threatening process for their destabilisation.— destabilisation. i thank the archbishop _ destabilisation. i thank the archbishop of _ destabilisation. i thank the archbishop of canterbury l destabilisation. i thank the l archbishop of canterbury for destabilisation. i thank the i archbishop of canterbury for his question. he is absolutely right to say we should focus on what is happening in the west bank as well as gaza and it is a chilling statistic that since the 7th of october 96 palestinian children have been killed in the west bank. there have been a series of very worrying developers and disturbances and that is why the government is focused on their side actually only yesterday we first time announced some sanctions against violent settlers

who are carrying out criminal acts in the west bank. he rightly asked about what we're doing to help jordan. in terms ofjordan's work in looking after refugees, we have given a huge amount of aid and assistance to help them with the job that they have done. the crucial thing is to help work with the jordanians towards the two state solution in which they can play a very big part. a crucial thing that needs to be sorted out is how you move from the current palestinian authority that we have, a number... studio: forviewers authority that we have, a number... studio: for viewers watching around the world, you are watching bbc news. to the world, you are watching bbc news. ., ., �*y ., , :: :: news. to harden... bylaws, 200 land-based _ news. to harden... bylaws, 200 land-based conflicts _ news. to harden... bylaws, 200 land-based conflicts in _ news. to harden... bylaws, 200 land-based conflicts in the i news. to harden... bylaws, 200| land-based conflicts in the world, land—based conflicts in the world, half a million dead in syria, the biggest monitoring cash in yemen, million slaughtered in africa, yet the only conflict people in the uk seem to want to protest about is israel defending itself against the

racist genocidal islamists of hamas. what does the foreign secretary think explains this irrational obsession with the world's only jewish state? i obsession with the world's only jewish state?— obsession with the world's only jewish state? ~' ., , ., jewish state? i think the noble lord makes an important _ jewish state? i think the noble lord makes an important point - jewish state? i think the noble lord makes an important point which i jewish state? i think the noble lord makes an important point which is. jewish state? i think the noble lord| makes an important point which is if you look across the world and you ask yourself the question, where is the biggest refugee crisis? it is not in israel or in the palestinian territories, it is either in sudan were about 9 million people have moved into egypt, or you could argue that it moved into egypt, or you could argue thatitis moved into egypt, or you could argue that it is in myanmar where bangladeshis are looking after millions of rangers in difficult conditions. it is important we try to keep a focus on what is happening around the world aren't looking at the numbers but that said, i think the numbers but that said, i think the reason people are focused on gaza right now is because of the level of death and destruction, and people want to bring back to an end, as do i, which is why we have made this proposalfor the immediate this proposal for the immediate pause, this proposalfor the immediate pause, moving to the ceasefire with the prior conditions to be put in

place to bring that about at what was a political solution. shatter was a political solution. after israel withdrew _ was a political solution. after israel withdrew from - was a political solution. after israel withdrew from gaza i was a political solution. after israel withdrew from gaza in | was a political solution. fire israel withdrew from gaza in 2005, hamas was elected to power. having been elected to power, it proceeded to terrorise and then murder its political opponents. hamas remains very popular in gaza and it remains very popular in gaza and it remains very popular in the west bank. so my question to the foreign secretary is, how can we prevent an independent palestinian state from being governed by hamas, maintaining its policy of seeking to attack israel and to murder, rape and abduct as many israeli citizens as possible? abduct as many israeli citizens as ossible? ., , ., ., ,~' abduct as many israeli citizens as ossible? ., ., , possible? the noble lord asked any trul aood possible? the noble lord asked any truly good question. _ possible? the noble lord asked any truly good question. the _ possible? the noble lord asked any truly good question. the point i i truly good question. the point i would make as we have got to try and help separate the palestinian people from hamas. one of the best ways of doing that, apart from making sure

that our condition should include the hamas leadership leaving gaza, the hamas leadership leaving gaza, the dismantling of the terrorist infrastructure, the other way of doing it is to offer palestinian people, not hamas, they are not interested in a two state solution, but offering the palestinian people a route to better governance with a reformed palestinian authority and the long—term horizon of a two state solution to give them the dignity and security that they crave and that would help to bring about peace in the region. he that would help to bring about peace in the region-— in the region. he made the original statement. — in the region. he made the original statement. he _ in the region. he made the original statement, he was _ in the region. he made the original statement, he was very _ in the region. he made the original statement, he was very clear i in the region. he made the original statement, he was very clear that i in the region. he made the original. statement, he was very clear that we need to show irreversible progress towards a two state solution. something that both sides of this house have talked about for a long time. my honourable friend david lammy welcomed the noble lord's comments, are going that recognition should not wait for the final status agreement but should be part of efforts to achieve one. the noble

lord, i asked efforts to achieve one. the noble lord, iasked lord efforts to achieve one. the noble lord, i asked lord ahmed the day after his comments, what were we doing to translate your desire into discussions with our allies, particularly at the un, and how do we get that hope a sense of reality? we will come away from that session. studio: we will continue to monitor it, david cameron taking more questions there with gaza, the absolute central focus. more on that here on bbc news. live from london. this is bbc news. on patrol when air strikes hit. we'll bring you an exclusive bbc report — on the challenges paramedics face when responding to gaza's emergency calls. as the situation remains desperate in rafa, american, egyptian, israeli and qatari officials meet in cairo to discuss a ceasefire

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the hamas—run health ministry says, more than 28,000 palestinians