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returning closer to the temperatures returning closer to the seasonal norm. a very wet start for england and wales. this band of squally and heavy rain spreads across england and wales. we could see localised flooding. and it could take time to clear through the day. it will be very windy, with gales in the south. elsewhere, bright with lots of showers rattling into northern and western areas. these will be wintry over a high ground. a blustery day wherever you are, the strongest winds in the south and east. by the end of the day, we will all be in single digits. losing the double figures we have had for nearly a couple of weeks now. thursday night promises to be a lot colder. there could be a touch of frost in places, and may be some risks of ice further north. through friday, saturday and sunday, we avoid most of the areas of low pressure. it will stay largely dry with light winds, some sunny spells, one or two showers around, and they will be wintry, particularly over the hills and western areas, with light winds. knights will be cold and we could see mist and fog as well. that's it from me. thanks, stav.
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and that's bbc news at six. you can keep up with all the latest developments on bbc website. now it's time to join our colleagues for the news where you are. hello and welcome to sportsday — i'm hugh farris. our headlines this evening. manchester united's new co—owner says he's fulfilling a boyhood dream, but sirjim ratcliffe says restoring the club is his greatest challenge in an exclusive interview ratcliffe says he wants a new stadium — one for united and the north of england. it's about time somebody built a national stadium or a stadium that is capable in the north of england rather than the south. after his first win of 2024 — another defeat. andy murray loses in the second round in qatar to a player half his age. and this is the gumshield world rugby hopes will help make the game safer — it'll be worn for the first time in the six nations this weekend.
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hello again. for nearly two decades those who own manchester united have been fighting a lot of discontent from within. many supporters have wanted change from even before the glazer family took over at old trafford. well, they've got their wish, at least partly. not new owners perhaps, but a new co—owner. with sirjim ratcliffe's purchase of around 28% of the club completed last night, he's given his first tv interview not done by in—house media to our sports editor, dan roan. ratcliffe has been talking about his desire to take united back to the top of english football and fix what he's called the club's other main issue — old trafford itself, with a new stadium
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very much on his mind. how does it feel to be co—owner of a club you valued all your life? in club you valued all your life? in this club you valued all your life? ll�*i this position i can influence club you valued all your life? in this position i can influence the future of manchester united. i would have never contemplated in my younger years, have never contemplated in my youngeryears, but have never contemplated in my younger years, but here we are. i mean you do have to pinch yourself, really, it is sort of a boyhood dream but this is, this is the exception to the rule and it's a nice one for me.— exception to the rule and it's a nice one for me. ., . nice one for me. how determined are ou to nice one for me. how determined are you to restore — nice one for me. how determined are you to restore this _ nice one for me. how determined are you to restore this club _ nice one for me. how determined are you to restore this club to _ nice one for me. how determined are you to restore this club to its - you to restore this club to its former glory?— you to restore this club to its former glory? you to restore this club to its former alo ? ., , ., ,., ., former glory? the only reason i got involved in — former glory? the only reason i got involved in manchester _ former glory? the only reason i got involved in manchester united - former glory? the only reason i got involved in manchester united is i involved in manchester united is because i want to see it restored to where it should be, it's the biggest club in, maybe i'm slightly biased but i think it's the biggest club, i think it's the most well—known club in the world. he has the greatest history in the world and it should be playing the greatest football in the world, which it has been from
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time to time. so it should always be challenging for the premiership and it should always be challenging for the champion side. it’s it should always be challenging for the champion side.— the champion side. it's been a decade since _ the champion side. it's been a decade since you _ the champion side. it's been a decade since you last - the champion side. it's been a decade since you last won - the champion side. it's been a decade since you last won the| decade since you last won the premier league, so how would you describe the scale of the challenge facing you? it’s describe the scale of the challenge facin: ou? �*, . ., , describe the scale of the challenge facin: ou? h . ., , ., describe the scale of the challenge facin ou? fl. . i. m facing you? it's clearly a difficult 11 ears facing you? it's clearly a difficult 11 years since — facing you? it's clearly a difficult 11 years since sir— facing you? it's clearly a difficult 11 years since sir alex _ facing you? it's clearly a difficult 11 years since sir alex and - facing you? it's clearly a difficult 11 years since sir alex and david| 11 years since sir alex and david gill retired, so it's not, this will be a light switch. it's not switching a light switch, it's not about a new coach or it's not a simple fix or short—term fix. we have to walk to the right solution, not run to the wrong solution. we've got a short—term issue which is that we really, really wanted to get into the championship next year because it's very important for ffp. but the real challenge is it's a 2—3 season challenge to get that organisation and environment right. how difficult of a task to — and environment right. how difficult of a task to you _ and environment right. how difficult of a task to you face? _ and environment right. how difficult
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of a task to you face? it's _ and environment right. how difficult of a task to you face? it's in - and environment right. how difficult of a task to you face? it's in an - of a task to you face? it's in an enormous _ of a task to you face? it's in an enormous challenge. - of a task to you face? it's in an i enormous challenge. everywhere of a task to you face? it's in an - enormous challenge. everywhere in the premier league around europe, it clearly isn't very, it's not easy. and there are so many components and elements and united is such a huge club, and it's a great weight of expectation on manchester united, absolutely the biggest challenge. i have to say, the squad has played really good football over the last couple of months but it's not at the level we want to get to, to be clear. it's better than we've seen, its quite entertaining football it's quite entertaining football they've played, they are very committed to score some great goals. but the level we want to get manchester united to is not at the moment. ~ ., ., , ., manchester united to is not at the moment. ~ ., ., ,, ., ~ manchester united to is not at the moment. ~ ., ., .,~ ., moment. what do you make of the coach. eric — moment. what do you make of the coach, eric ten _ moment. what do you make of the coach, eric ten hog? _ moment. what do you make of the coach, eric ten hog? i— moment. what do you make of the coach, eric ten hog? i don't think l coach, eric ten hog? i don't think it's appropriate — coach, eric ten hog? i don't think it's appropriate for _ coach, eric ten hog? i don't think it's appropriate for me _ coach, eric ten hog? i don't think it's appropriate for me to - coach, eric ten hog? i don't think it's appropriate for me to talk - it's appropriate for me to talk about individuals in that organisation, but what i would say in respect to the coach is if you
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look at the last 11 years, manchester united has had quite a few coaches and some of those coaches have been very capable, they've been very successful. but nobody has been successful in that manchester united environment for the last 11 years. so that would say to me that there is something wrong with the environment... and who is to blame for that? it's not... it's not constructive for me to blame anyone, it'sjust not constructive for me to blame anyone, it's just a fact of life. so my focus is obviously on the future. how do i change that environment? so you get the very best out of the coach, and the coach can get the very best out of the squad. that's my focus, there's no point in me looking back and blaming people. it wasn't your average deal, this. how does it compare to others you've conducted and where there times you feared it wouldn't happen? there were times _ feared it wouldn't happen? there were times i _ feared it wouldn't happen? there were times i feared _ feared it wouldn't happen? there were times i feared it _ feared it wouldn't happen? there were times i feared it wouldn't i were times i feared it wouldn't happen because it was a complicated transaction, it was a transaction which required a lot of patients. and it was also a transaction where
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you had to step into the shoes of the sellers and understand the motivations and the situation the sellers were in. to be fair to the family, they did want to sell to us, the were lots of oxo rules in the way and we had to find our way through obstacles, and that did form, helped form a bond and relationship between us and the family. relationship between us and the famil . ., ., i. relationship between us and the famil . ., ., y., ,. , family. how would you describe them and how they — family. how would you describe them and how they have _ family. how would you describe them and how they have run _ family. how would you describe them and how they have run manchester. and how they have run manchester united up until this point? in and how they have run manchester united up until this point? united up untilthis point? in terms of... i united up untilthis point? in terms of- -- i only — united up untilthis point? in terms of... i only note _ united up untilthis point? in terms of... i only note joe _ united up untilthis point? in terms of... i only note joe and _ united up untilthis point? in terms of... i only note joe and efrain - of... i only notejoe and efrain and they are, despite what you might read in the press, they are really nice people. they are very courteous. and they're very... you know, avid supporters of manchester united, believe it or not. he know, avid supporters of manchester united, believe it or not.— united, believe it or not. he will of heard fans _ united, believe it or not. he will of heard fans very _ united, believe it or not. he will of heard fans very dismayed - united, believe it or not. he will l of heard fans very dismayed about the debt the club has been settled with, the decline and in terms of the infrastructure, it may hold them
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responsible for that, do you understand that anger? yeah, i understand _ understand that anger? yeah, i understand the _ understand that anger? yeah, i understand the frustrations - understand that anger? yeah, i j understand the frustrations and anger but where is that today is looking forward, not looking backward. so you know, what i like to say to the fans is give us a little bit of time. try to be patient and we'll try to build manchester united back to where it should be, which is one of the very elite clubs in europe. but should be, which is one of the very elite clubs in europe.— elite clubs in europe. but there will be worries _ elite clubs in europe. but there will be worries from _ elite clubs in europe. but there will be worries from fans - elite clubs in europe. but there will be worries from fans that l elite clubs in europe. but there l will be worries from fans that the glazer�*s remain in overall control, and the nature of this co—ownership. what is the assurance that it will in practice, work with mark the key to it working is the relationship we will have an ever and... to it working is the relationship we will have an ever and. . ._ to it working is the relationship we will have an ever and... which is in m view will have an ever and... which is in my view a — will have an ever and... which is in my view a very _ will have an ever and... which is in my view a very good _ will have an ever and... which is in l my view a very good relationship and trusting relationship. and you know, i can't give people assurances or guarantees about the future but my personal view is that there is a good level of trust and it will
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work. ~ ., �* , good level of trust and it will work. ~ . h good level of trust and it will work. ~ . �*, ., , ~ work. what's your latest thinking about old trafford _ work. what's your latest thinking about old trafford and _ work. what's your latest thinking about old trafford and its - work. what's your latest thinking about old trafford and its future, j about old trafford and its future, and the state that it's in? it’s and the state that it's in? it's tired, frankly, _ and the state that it's in? it�*s tired, frankly, and it's in need of refurbishment. and... you know, there are two main issues in this club, performance on the field and the other one is probably the stadium, and you hear talk about that. there is a kind of big argument in my view for regeneration that whole side of manchester. and within it, a new stadium which would be a world—class state—of—the—art stadium, which could take england games, it could take the fa cups final, it could take that champions league final, and it can service the north of england. it league final, and it can service the north of england.— north of england. it sounds like our north of england. it sounds like your preference, _ north of england. it sounds like your preference, sir _ north of england. it sounds like your preference, sirjim, - north of england. it sounds like your preference, sirjim, is - north of england. it sounds like your preference, sirjim, is for. north of england. it sounds like| your preference, sirjim, is for a your preference, sirjim, is for a new stadium if it can be achieved. if it can be achieved, that would clearly be my priority. i would be very excited for that prospect for
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the north of england, i think would be an fantastic. sir alex ferguson famously said that his principal objective when in charge of united was to knock liverpool — at the time the pre—eminent side — off their perch, as he put it. times have moved on, you've now got manchester city aiming for a fourth consecutive title. how would you encapsulate, articulate what you want to achieve at united? is it to knock city of their perch? because you have got other clubs — arsenal, liverpool — there is competition everywhere, it seems. how would you put it? i am in exactly the same page as alex ferguson. i want to knock them all off their perch. i mean, alex was a very driven, very competitive individual, and, you know, he just wanted to win, and that's the only reason we are there at united. i mean, we are friends in the sense that we are all in the north—west, but they are the enemies, you know. they are clearly our biggest rivals and competitors in the uk. and then obviously you have got two or three clubs in europe. but, no, no, absolutely, that is what we are there for, knocking them off their perch. how far behind are you to them? a long way behind them at the moment, yes. no, we are.
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sirjim ratcliffe with dan roan. the teams he's referring to there as he channels sir alex ferguson from the mid 1980s — manchester city and liverpool, who can go four points clear of city at the top of the premier league tonight. they're playing luton at anfield with something of an injury crisis going on. this is the squad arriving in mansfield a few minutes ago. he's onlyjust returned from a hamstring problem and despite playing and scoring against brentford at his comeback at the weekend he is not fit enough tonight. no dharma nunez, five changes in total from that 4—1 when, harvey elliott makes his 100th with liverpool appearance, luton who are unchanged from their defeat at home to manchester united... live now to the house of commons, we've heard in the last minute or so that the snp and conservative mps have walked out of the commons
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chamber over an apparent protest of the speaker's gaza cease—fire do they and a big row has erupted over an amendment put forward by the scottish national party calling for an immediate cease—fire in gaza. the government �*s after amendments were excepted from the labour party by the speaker said it will play no further part on the labour party amendment for the motion. it's been described in the last few minutes as complete and utter chaos. to bring a little bit of sense to the chaos, let's cross life now to peter's soul. that's quite a big thing to ask of you, peter, but i'm sure you will rise to the challenge. what ask of you, peter, but i'm sure you will rise to the challenge.— will rise to the challenge. what is happening? _ will rise to the challenge. what is happening? it _ will rise to the challenge. what is happening? it is _ will rise to the challenge. what is happening? it is utterly _ will rise to the challenge. what is happening? it is utterly bonkers i happening? it is utterly bonkers what has just happened in the past hour or so. what has just happened in the past hour orso. in what has just happened in the past hour or so. in the houses of parliament, the latest is that mps are now voting on whether to in private, that will enable them to find a way through this mess now.
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this is all about, first and foremost, agreeing a position on whether or not there should be an immediate cease—fire in gaza, that was a motion that was brought forward by the scottish national party. there speaker then allowed an amendment put forward by the labour party to be debated and voted on first, so that was supposed to be what was happening initially, but that angered both the snp and the conservatives, sojust that angered both the snp and the conservatives, so just as we were about to go towards the vote on that initial labour amendment, the leader of the house of commons, penny mordaunt, conservative minister, standing up and saying that they weren't happy and actually they were going to pull out of the process, unhappy with the fact the speaker had broken convention to do this. his argument that he was all about providing mps with all the different choices there express their opinion on exactly the different motion they saw fit, so because of the conservatives effectively pulled out of the process, that means that the labour amendment will probably pass because the snp have said they are going to vote for it, too, and that
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means we will not then get a vote on the snp devotion is. that matters because this is supposed to be an opposition debate in the name of the scottish national party, and they say that now that has been taken away from them because of this row about parliamentary procedure. meanwhile there are hundreds of people protesting outside parliament, calling it forfree palestine, for cease—fire now, they're probably scratching their heads, as indeed i'm sure a lot of voters up and down the uk, as to what is happening in our parliament evening. the what is happening in our parliament evenina. ., , ., evening. the route erupted earlier as ou evening. the route erupted earlier as you mention. — evening. the route erupted earlier as you mention, over _ evening. the route erupted earlier as you mention, over these - evening. the route erupted earlier as you mention, over these men l as you mention, over these men amendments. it all started off as quite a normal debate, didn't it? it did, yeah, and we saw mp after mp making arguments we've heard all an awful lot really since the october seven attack in the conflict that has since broken up. actually, if you look at the wording of the individual motions or the motion of the amendments that have been put forward by the three bigots part parties in westminster, there was a
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great deal between them. they're all calling for an end to the fighting, they were all saying there is a need to get aid into gaza, and the prospect of a ground offensive and rough out was a deep concern, but they were essentially totally different. the smp had a straightforward call for immediate cease—fire, labourers and the conditions for that are that both sides lay down their arms. the government amendment which as i say now is not going to be voted on at all, was calling for an immediate humanitarian cause and they were stressing israel's right to self—defense, so there were some slight differences of opinion there, but really the house is on largely the same page on this. the fighting needs to stop. it was only ever going to be a kind of advisory vote of course, what parliament thinks here in the uk may increase international pressure on the two different actors in the war in the middle east right now, but this was not binding on anyone, really, but what has happened now is just descended into this almighty ruckus about centuries old parliamentary
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procedure. in the event we had his deputy dame rosie winterton trying to explain what on earth was happening, trying to find a way through. the way now is to whether mps should sit in private, so we will be able to watch that proceeding and try to work out a way forward. no sign of any votes at all really on any of this very important issue. 50 really on any of this very important issue. �* , ., really on any of this very important issue. �*, ., ., really on any of this very important issue. h ., ., ., ., issue. so there's no voting going on at all? at the _ issue. so there's no voting going on at all? at the moment? _ issue. so there's no voting going on at all? at the moment? there - issue. so there's no voting going on at all? at the moment? there is - issue. so there's no voting going on at all? at the moment? there is a l at all? at the moment? there is a vote on the _ at all? at the moment? there is a vote on the moment _ at all? at the moment? there is a vote on the moment on _ at all? at the moment? there is a vote on the moment on whether. vote on the moment on whether parliament should sit in private. so that would mean we would have to turn the cameras off and within the house of commons chamber they would try to work a way forward. but this is very, very rare indeed and he can think of a time that this has happened in my years covering politics here in westminster. there's an awful lot ofjournalists here in central lobby between the commons on the lords scratching their heads as to what on earth is going on. me their heads as to what on earth is auoin on. ~ ., their heads as to what on earth is aoianon.~ ., , , , their heads as to what on earth is aoainon.~ . , , ,
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going on. we are the deputy speaker rosie winterton _ going on. we are the deputy speaker rosie winterton responding - going on. we are the deputy speaker rosie winterton responding to - going on. we are the deputy speaker rosie winterton responding to the i rosie winterton responding to the smp's brendan o'hara, saying its absolute chaos, this looks bad to her constituents, with mps just shouting each other down. haifa her constituents, with mps “ust shouting each other down. how much shoutina shouting each other down. how much shouting has — shouting each other down. how much shouting has there _ shouting each other down. how much shouting has there been? _ shouting each other down. how much shouting has there been? i _ shouting each other down. how much shouting has there been? i mean, . shouting each other down. how much shouting has there been? i mean, a i shouting has there been? i mean, a lot really. this happens in the house of commons, is an adversarial chamber where debates have been on a day—to—day basis, where passions can run high. but this evening, a lot of finger pointing, rounds of applause and, you don't get applause in house of commons in support of individuals. dame rosie winterton is the deputy speaker, it isn't herjob to decide on what is happening with the voting on these amendments today, trying to work out a way forward. and sort of defend the decision that lindsay hoyle had made but he's under an awful lot of pressure now, if they want to take an early day motion, i have no confidence in the speaker of the house of commons. whether that goes
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anywhere we'll have to wait and see, but certainly this evening an awful lot of noise and very little clarity. lot of noise and very little clari . ., , clarity. tell me a little bit more about this _ clarity. tell me a little bit more about this current _ clarity. tell me a little bit more about this current vote, - clarity. tell me a little bit more| about this current vote, because clarity. tell me a little bit more - about this current vote, because i'm just hearing that the deputy speaker and mps started to leave the commons, they are saying that mps will now vote whether the commons will now vote whether the commons will sit in private, if they devote to sit in private what will happen next? i to sit in private what will happen next? , , ., , ., next? i guess what they will do it then is discussed _ next? i guess what they will do it then is discussed a _ next? i guess what they will do it then is discussed a way forward. | then is discussed a way forward. know the smp are saying there amendment should be, or the motion as it was, should be voted on first because it is their opposition to 93v because it is their opposition to gay debate, they are entitled to a certain number of opposition day debates throughout the course of the year, as are the labour party. it's the largest opposition party, too. so maybe they decide to defer the votes to another day, that was the suggestion of one mp just now in the ports of order —— points of order. but they may do it in a slightly different order. there are differences of opinion within the labour party. the last time there
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was a vote on whether there should be an immediate cease—fire, dozens of labour mps rebelled, back to the smp motion, labourfront benches resigning. since then the labour party position has morphed, really, to call for an immediate humanitarian cease—fire which is something that largely the party was happy to get on board with. keir starmer pretty content that he would avoid a major rebellion this evening. if that smp motion would be voted on first, potentially that puts labour mps in a difficult position, whether they should vote for that straightforward call of immediate cease—fire. who knows what they're going to decide in the next few minutes or so. that vote is still happening, mp still traipsing through the aye and no knows mac. we
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have a look at mps leaving the chamber. there is no sound, i wish there were sound. if there were sound, you would hear the absolute chaos that peter was talking about there as smp, scottish national party, and conservative mps left the chamber. there was a lot of anger amongst mps. they were all voting on the amendments put forward by the conservative and later party, but they withdrew their amendment, they are just filing out one by one in these pictures. i think, can we at some point go back to peter? i want to ask peter, i know this is putting pressure on you, but are there mps behind you can talk to? aha, lat behind you can talk to? a lot of these are. _ behind you can talk to? a lot of these are. i _ behind you can talk to? a lot of these are, i think _ behind you can talk to? a lot of| these are, i think parliamentary staffers to be honest. some of the mps starting to go back in there
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now, they will have voted and i'm actually standing next to the foreign office minister andrew mitchell. ., , ., foreign office minister andrew mitchell. . ,, .,~ foreign office minister andrew mitchell. . ,, ., m mitchell. can you speak to him? oh that's not good _ mitchell. can you speak to him? oh that's not good enough _ mitchell. can you speak to him? oh that's not good enough peter. - mitchell. can you speak to him? oh that's not good enough peter. he's| that's not good enough peter. he's pulling away. but we obviously work out if we can get some mps to speak to here, getting a sense of what is happening what are they being told to do in this book. whether there is a whipping operation, whether or not the house should sit in private and whether there is some school of thought as to where they can find a way forward on the different votes on the cease—fire in gaza. way forward on the different votes on the cease-fire in gaza.- on the cease-fire in gaza. peter i would never _ on the cease-fire in gaza. peter i would never can _ on the cease-fire in gaza. peter i would never can condone - on the cease-fire in gaza. peter i would never can condone you - on the cease-fire in gaza. peter i - would never can condone you getting anybody physically, so don't worry about it. this book whether to consider sitting in private is a very rare move, and apparently at last happened by accident more than two decades ago. it means basically all members of the public must
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leave, broadcasting facilities and come and the official record hansard does not produce a transcript of what mps say. however, the results are published. what mps say. however, the results are published-— are published. right, ok, so we'll wait and see _ are published. right, ok, so we'll wait and see if— are published. right, ok, so we'll wait and see if and _ are published. right, ok, so we'll wait and see if and when - are published. right, ok, so we'll wait and see if and when that - wait and see if and when that happens. it is as you say something extraordinary, something i've never come across in my time covering politics, i don't know whether as a journalist i will be able to go into the public gallery, to watch sittings or it is only open to members of parliament, elected members of parliament, elected members of parliament that private setting. it sounds like there will be some record of it taken and then published to emulate —— at a later stage. we'll get some information on the mps filing out of the chamber as to what is going on in there and also may be of them trying to work out what the individual parties in parliament that are being told to do. difficult one for the website as well, they will have to corral everyone into doing something and
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mask and wejust everyone into doing something and mask and we just don't know what is going to happen here, frankly. this was supposed to be a difficult issue on the aid to gaza, the war between israel and gaza, and itjust feels for the audience i'm sure come watching us, that this is supposed to be a serious debate that feels like it's just descended to be a serious debate that feels like it'sjust descended into to be a serious debate that feels like it's just descended into some sort of farce, quite frankly. several mps have stood up and the in the debate, it is a very very serious issue is something that millions and millions of people care about is evidenced by the protests taking out part outside parliament today. spending hours in the rain here in westminster trying to get into parliament to speak to their mps directly. i saw earlier on in westminster hall which is the oldest
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part of parliament, people writing individual notes to their mps, then i saw some of those being carried into the chamber and pass to mps for their consideration. so mps well aware of the fact that this is something he will care a great deal about. the point has also been made about. the point has also been made about mp security here. they want to be able to express their views, some of them feel like on this particular issue because it has been quite divisive, that at times that try to pressure from voters has been too much to bear. but tonight, for everyone looking at these scenes of utter chaos in the house of commons, yeah, it's difficult to see how many people would take a good view of it, frankly. has people would take a good view of it, frankl . �* , ., . , frankly. as we watch these live rictures frankly. as we watch these live pictures of _ frankly. as we watch these live pictures of what _ frankly. as we watch these live pictures of what is _ frankly. as we watch these live pictures of what is happening l frankly. as we watch these live | pictures of what is happening in frankly. as we watch these live - pictures of what is happening in the house of commons, i can still see people milling around behind you so if you do spot anyone, do let me know. and we talked about what potentially it means if there is a vote for them to sit in private, but
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what does it mean if there is an? do we then go back to what we have before, or what happens? presumably the will ao before, or what happens? presumably they will go back _ before, or what happens? presumably they will go back to _ before, or what happens? presumably they will go back to a _ before, or what happens? presumably they will go back to a public _ they will go back to a public sitting and point of order after point of order trying to find a way through. orthey point of order trying to find a way through. or they might decide at that point that they are now going to go and actually vote on the labour environment to the smp motion which was the plan, certainly a few hours ago, anyway, and it because the conservatives decided they are not going to take part in that you can expect that motion to pass and that would then mean that the original smp motion would not be voted on. but really, that is what has caused the row in the first place. snp saying this is not how this should work, convention has been thrown out by the house of commons figures, not sure where he is at the moment, he may return to explain himself, that has certainly been asked by a lot of mps in the house and last hours so. i'm scratching my head right now, i
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don't know quite where we aren't. just looking at what people are saying on social media, it feels like there's some anger amongst people at the that this whole debate has played out. given as we mentioned earlier, the seriousness of what's happening in gaza, talk to me a little bit about the protests because there have been some outside the house of commons today, have there not? ., , ., ., , ., there not? lots of palestinian flaas, there not? lots of palestinian flags. lots _ there not? lots of palestinian flags. lots of— there not? lots of palestinian flags, lots of people - there not? lots of palestinian flags, lots of people outside, | there not? lots of palestinian - flags, lots of people outside, you can hear it actually is i was walking through parliament early on, mps would've heard it too. people chanting cease—fire now. there is a general consensus now i think on all sides of the houses of parliament, because of the suffering of the palestinian people and indeed the israelis who have been affected by the conflict, too, is quite how you reach that cease—fire that there are slight differences of opinion and certainly from the government side, they are not quite using that language of an immediate cease—fire quite yet. clearly they do believe
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thatis quite yet. clearly they do believe that is real it has a right to self—defense and the hostages held ljy self—defense and the hostages held by hamas need to be released first before before there is any prospect of any end to the fighting. but we've seen mass demonstrations in lots of british cities in recent weeks about this, and largely protesting against what israel is doing and gaza. before, also, i noticed there were quite a few members of the public in the galley, that doesn't tend to happen on days like this, so yeah, an awful lot of public attention on this, and as i said earlier, people queuing quite a long way down towards victoria gardens, if you know westminster, it's about 250 yards from the main entrance to the houses of parliament, we've seen she was like that in westminster since the queen was lying in state. it was a much longer queue at the time, but lots of people wanting to get in and let their spring feelings be known to their spring feelings be known to their representatives. let’s their spring feelings be known to their representatives.— their representatives. let's “ust a ive their representatives. let's “ust give peter �* their representatives. let's “ust give peter a fi their representatives. let's “ust give peter a bit i their representatives. let's “ust give peter a bit of i their representatives. let's “ust give peter a bit of a i their representatives. let's “ust give peter a bit of a break h their representatives. let's just | give peter a bit of a break there and read a couple of tweets that we
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are reading from mps. there's been a lot of action on social media, unsurprisingly. this from justin madders who is a labour mp. he what rights this on x, formerly known as twitter. i have never seen such scenes in the house of commons, the tories and now the smp refusing to take part has made parliament look ridiculous, and none of the performances we are seeing right now will make an iota of difference as to what is happening and gaza. —— snp. that is one of the labour mps who has been talking on x. we have also heard from one of our correspondents susan howell who is writing on the bbc live page. she said there have not been things like this in the comments chamber since the brexit debates. lindsay horner
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was supposed to restore decorum and calm and so far he's done that, but the race but political pressure temperature ahead of a general election has led to angry voices and confusion. that from our parliamentary correspondent who is there in westminster. let's just if we can, bring back our correspondent political correspondent peter saull who is there at the house of commons. peter, do you have anyone to talk to yet? h0. commons. peter, do you have anyone to talk to yet?— to talk to yet? no, i think they're all still largely — to talk to yet? no, i think they're all still largely voting _ to talk to yet? no, i think they're all still largely voting on - to talk to yet? no, i think they're all still largely voting on whether| all still largely voting on whether or not to hold this private sitting. outside the houses of parliament now we mentioned the protesters who have been here all day, have not succeeded in projecting the words cease—fire on the famous tower that houses big bend so they are very much making their feelings very, very clear, if the mps here were in any doubt as to what people outside think, they will now know that their
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feelings are very, very strong indeed. now wejust feelings are very, very strong indeed. now we just wait now, really, for that result of that vote as to whether or not the house of commons will be sitting in private and then we will try and work out what happens next with these various different votes. meanwhile, no sign of the house of commons speaker sir lindsay hoyle, he was at the real heart of the row today. peter, thanks for that. stay with us as we are mind viewers that you are live on the bbc news. this is this world today with maryam moshiri. we are bringing you the life seen from the house of commons. a huge row has erupted over minutes by the scottish national party calling for immediate cease—fire in gaza. mps were supposed be voting on a labour party amendment after hours of debate in parliament. the debate was, as one would expect, passionate, given the subject matter. we are talking about a cease—fire in gaza. but things
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