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she was all right before the ambulance came i and took her away. the council already painted it red to try to make it stand out more but that doesn't seem to have made much difference. now they're going to replace this continuous white line with a broken line instead, and on the road itself they're going to paint yellow lines. even at night time — it needs to be something that maybe, you know, is a glow—in—the—dark, or something. one big step! mind yourstep. so for now, everyone�*s treading carefully here. danjohnson, bbc news, keynsham. time for a look at the weather — here's louise lear. bite i don't know if you notice but it got colder, colder enough in highland scotland for some snow and we could see several snow showers over the next couple of days. the cold air is set to continue. not too extreme but we haven't seen cold nights for quite some time so tomorrow morning take note, temperatures low single figures so it will be chilly start. lots of
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sunshine, but a brisk north—westerly wind will feeding and plenty of showers from the west. the cloud will gather through the day and some of those showers will come further inland. some continue to be wintry with elevation and those temperatures about where they should be for this time of year. that's something we've not seen for a time, 7-10 . something we've not seen for a time, 7—10 . going something we've not seen for a time, 7—10. going through something we've not seen for a time, 7—10 . going through friday evening and overnight, showers will ease away, with the exception in the far south—west. here temperatures are staying above freezing, but colder still. yes, the beginning of saturday morning we could see some frost around as well. it's going to be a chilly start to dozens of mps call for lindsay hoyle to resign, as sir keir starmer denies threatening the speaker, and the humanitarian situation in gaza worsens.
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the speaker said mps�* safety from protesters angry about the gaza war was the reason for his controversial decision. and he apologised again. if true, what does it say about our democracy? we speak to the former attorney general sir geoffrey cox, and veteran labourmp, barry sheerman. and from rafah, we'll hear from the red cross on conditions there. and we're joined in the studio by the british—israeli woman whose father is still being held hostage somewhere in the gaza strip. also tonight... did west yorkshire police miss opportunities to prevent the killing of this woman, and others? i said, "tell me she's 0k." "i can't do that." and then they said the words that no parent ever wants to hear, and should have to hear. "she didn't survive her injuries." a full investigation of that coming up. and... live from the moon.
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in the next hour, real pictures of the first commercial landing ever. the first american landing for over a half a century, we hope. good evening. the chaos in gaza continues to cost lives and threaten a humanitarian catastrophe, especially with hudreds of thousands of displaced palestinians close to the egyptian border waiting for a threatened offensive from the israeli army. the chaos in parliament continues to reverberate, with questions continuing to mount tonight for the speaker, lindsay hoyle. last night, the commons passed the labour ammendment calling for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire and warning against the offensive in rafah. it also called for the release of israeli hostages being held by hamas. but the route to that resolution has raised very serious questions of parliamentary propriety, significant breaks with precedent, pressure on the speaker from the labour party, and the safety of mps, amid heightened tensions in the uk surrounding the gaza war. our political editor nick watt, who broke many of the stories on this, examines the fallout.
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the guardian of ancient traditions in trouble, after challenging those traditions. sir lindsay hoyle facing a campaign to oust him, after claims that he favoured the labour party. i apologise, and i apologise to the house. i made a mistake. we do make mistakes. i own up to mine. contrition from a speaker who said he was trying to protect mps�* security. labour mps had indicated they would face fewer threats if they could vote for the new labour position on gaza, an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. mixed views today about the future of the speaker. mr speaker is a decent man, as the leader said. he is not the villain here. stephen flynn, leader of the snp. mr speaker, as i have - expressed to you privately, prior to proceedings here today, - we do not on these benches therefore
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believe that you can continue in your role as speaker. - we do not have confidence in your ability to do so. - why have you lost confidence in the speaker? so, yesterday was meant to be about the people of palestine i and the appalling collective - punishment of the palestinian people in gaza, and what happened _ was the house of commons descended i into farce because of a decision. made by the speaker of the house of commons to turn the snp opposition day into - a labour opposition day. that decision by lindsay hoyle was a stitch—up, it followed i a private discussion- between sir keir starmer and sir lindsay hoyle in a i back room, in westminster. it's not good enough. the speaker has lost my confidence and that of my colleagues. - he's going to have to go. support from a tory veteran. i think the speaker will be all right. i hope he will be all right. he deserves be all right. he deserves to be all right. and ijust hope that over the weekend, people reflect on the fact that,
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yes, he made a mistake, but he did make a mistake through trying to act for the best of good reasons. and so, i think a little bit of compassion and understanding and forgiveness wouldn't go a miss this thursday evening. the speaker's position is difficult, though not yet precarious. there are a growing number of conservative and snp mps saying they no longer have confidence in him, and i spoke to one member of the cabinet who said to me, "i hope lindsay hoyle goes away for the weekend, has a long think and then steps down." but the speaker does have his backers. but in all of this, lindsay hoyle has looked absolutely devastated. he genuinely believes he acted in the interests of parliament and the interests of protecting mps�* security. but even that has courted controversy. we should never let extremists intimidate us into changing the way in which parliament works. but sir charles walker believes the speaker was right. i don't blame the speaker for being concerned about it.
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he's obsessed with the safety of members of parliament. since october the 7th, many members of parliament in this place, on all sides of the house, of all faiths, jewish, christian, muslim, have been put under huge pressure by sections of their constituencies. a slowing of the pace, as westminster winds down for the weekend. time for reflection about the next steps. joining me now is the former attorney general sir geoffrey cox, and labour mp barry sheerman. let's go to first, sir geoffrey. you are very much against what the speaker has done here, why? weill. are very much against what the speaker has done here, why? well, he has made it clear _ speaker has done here, why? well, he has made it clear he _ speaker has done here, why? well, he has made it clear he committed - speaker has done here, why? well, he has made it clear he committed a - has made it clear he committed a very grave error ofjudgment, i think that is commendable. i with charles walker that lindsay is a compassionate, humane man, put into an impossible position by people who
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came to him. to say that the procedures of parliament should be fundamentally changed at the expense of another party in order to protect people from intimidation. now, my view is that the house of commons and the united kingdom simply cannot be seen to be altering its procedures because of external threats. and those who came to persuade him of that committed, if anything, a far worse error of judgment than lindsay did in acceding to it. lindsay is concerned about members of parliament. those who came to him were concerned about party—political advantage and they persuaded him that such was the intimidation that in order to avoid it, a labour amendment which should be taken first and was taken first as a result of that decision should be entertained. now, that is a week, direct, abject surrender to tyranny
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and intolerance —— a week and direct. and of the house of commons are seen to do that, what message does it send throughout the world to the enemies of this country, putin, to others who are looking on, about the resolve and determination of our democracy to withstand such pressures? d0 democracy to withstand such pressures?— democracy to withstand such ressures? . . . pressures? do i detect you are a little sceptical _ pressures? do i detect you are a little sceptical about _ pressures? do i detect you are a little sceptical about the - pressures? do i detect you are a little sceptical about the reality l little sceptical about the reality of this argument about the safety of mps, that it was the perception that you think won the date when the labour party was talking to the speaker? i labour party was talking to the seaker? . ., ., , . speaker? i have no doubt that the seaker speaker? i have no doubt that the speaker felt _ speaker? i have no doubt that the speaker felt it _ speaker? i have no doubt that the speaker felt it to _ speaker? i have no doubt that the speaker felt it to be _ speaker? i have no doubt that the speaker felt it to be authentic - speaker? i have no doubt that the speaker felt it to be authentic and j speaker felt it to be authentic and genuine. but we can't be seen to kowtow to those threats. the moment we do that, we put our entire jeopardy at risk and we send a message to people like putin in this world that we are not resolved to defend democracy and freedom. if threats from people in the street to
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members of parliament can force us to alter our procedures at the cost of the mockery that was yesterday, what will it say to people like putin if we are expected to defend sometimes with our lives the values we stand for? and i think that is the fundamental problem. when the leader of the opposition went to see lindsay hoyle to persuade him that he should capitulate to that intimidation, in my view, the leader of the opposition demonstrated quite plainly that he did not understand fundamental principles of defence of democracy. i think it is a grave error ofjudgment not so much by the speaker, but by those who put him in that position. it speaker, but by those who put him in that position-— that position. it was a constitutional - that position. it was a - constitutional innovation, one that position. it was a _ constitutional innovation, one might say. you are not averse to constitutional innovation yourself. famously as attorney general, you legally —— illegally closed down parliament. this would seem to rank more lowly than closing down parliament. i
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more lowly than closing down parliament.— more lowly than closing down parliament. i don't accept the premise. _ parliament. i don't accept the premise. we _ parliament. i don't accept the premise, we will— parliament. i don't accept the premise, we will discuss - parliament. i don't accept the premise, we will discuss that | premise, we will discuss that another time as to whether or not prorogation was or was not what you call an illegal closure of parliament. it was certainly held to be unlawful by the supreme court. but the fact of the matter is that had nothing to do with external threats on the independence of parliament. that was an internal affair within parliament. this is responding and being seen to respond to intimidate tree, violent tactics on the streets of our country against members of parliament. —— intimidate tree. we simply cannot be seen to be altering our course of conduct, let alone as we did yesterday. i5 conduct, let alone as we did yesterday-— conduct, let alone as we did esterda. , ., . yesterday. is it not a weak speaker that would succumb _ yesterday. is it not a weak speaker that would succumb to _ yesterday. is it not a weak speaker that would succumb to that - yesterday. is it not a weak speaker- that would succumb to that argument? yes, i'm afraid he was weak yesterday. he is modified, he's a decent man, i am not calling for him to go. i think he can learn from this —— he is mortified. but i think he will have to work very hard to
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restore the confidence of parliament. but lindsay has been a good speaker by and large and i certainly don't want to see him go. i think the people who need to be reflective of the people who fought entirely party—political advantage persuaded lindsay that intimidation should be capitulated to. that was wrong. should be capitulated to. that was wronu. , . ., wrong. there is another constitutional _ wrong. there is another| constitutional innovation wrong. there is another - constitutional innovation here, which you now have the house of commons passing is slightly different foreign policy to the actual government. that seems a difficult situation for your government.— difficult situation for your covernment. , ., ., , difficult situation for your covernment. , ., ., government. well, these motions as ou know government. well, these motions as you know are — government. well, these motions as you know are not _ government. well, these motions as you know are not binding. _ government. well, these motions as you know are not binding. this - government. well, these motions as you know are not binding. this one l you know are not binding. this one was extraordinary come in the sense that it was called after the seven o'clock deadline. many people didn't even know there was a division called. i don't think that is going to affect the foreign policy of the united kingdom. ithink to affect the foreign policy of the united kingdom. i think what we do need to reflect on is whether or not we should be bending the need ——
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bending the knee to this kind of intimidation on our streets and i think it is a very bad sign that the leader of the opposition is willing to go and persuade the speaker of the house of commons that we should. let's bring in labour mp barry sheerman. a difficult moment for yourfriend a speaker, dozens of sheerman. a difficult moment for your friend a speaker, dozens of mps are now against him. how do you defend him? == are now against him. how do you defend him?— defend him? -- your friend the speaker- _ defend him? -- your friend the speaker- i _ defend him? -- your friend the speaker. i believe _ defend him? -- your friend the speaker. i believe he _ defend him? -- your friend the speaker. i believe he is- defend him? -- your friend the speaker. i believe he is the - defend him? -- your friend the l speaker. i believe he is the best speaker, — speaker. i believe he is the best speaker, i— speaker. i believe he is the best speaker, i have been in parliament for over_ speaker, i have been in parliament for over 40 — speaker, i have been in parliament for over 40 years. i have never seen a better_ for over 40 years. i have never seen a better speaker in terms of being impartial, — a better speaker in terms of being impartial, being fair, being kind and really— impartial, being fair, being kind and really having parliament at his heart _ and really having parliament at his heart and — and really having parliament at his heart. and i really do admire lindsax _ heart. and i really do admire lindsay. and i was surprised, we don't _ lindsay. and i was surprised, we don't often — lindsay. and i was surprised, we don't often see sir geoffrey in parliament, but he obviously has very strong opinions. i also remember his role with borisjohnson and quite _ remember his role with borisjohnson and quite honestly, i am astounded
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at his_ and quite honestly, i am astounded at his view — and quite honestly, i am astounded at his view. quite honestly, if i was _ at his view. quite honestly, if i was going _ at his view. quite honestly, if i was going to put a vote of no confidence down on monday, it would be a confidence down on monday, it would he a vote _ confidence down on monday, it would he a vote of— confidence down on monday, it would be a vote of no confidence in penny mordaunt — be a vote of no confidence in penny mordaunt. because penny mordaunt inflamed _ mordaunt. because penny mordaunt inflamed the entire situation when we had _ inflamed the entire situation when we had this debate. it is like a tinderhox _ we had this debate. it is like a tinderbox in the house of commons at the moment— tinderbox in the house of commons at the moment and the snp know they will he _ the moment and the snp know they will be wiped out at the next election _ will be wiped out at the next election. half of the conservatives are going — election. half of the conservatives are going to go. and they are looking — are going to go. and they are looking for a diversion. and i think the other— looking for a diversion. and i think the other night, i think last night was, _ the other night, i think last night was, penny mordaunt was at the heart of it. was, penny mordaunt was at the heart of it it— was, penny mordaunt was at the heart of it. . , ~ , of it. it was in keeping with parliamentary _ of it. it was in keeping with parliamentary procedure i of it. it was in keeping with i parliamentary procedure and of it. it was in keeping with - parliamentary procedure and your leader put immense amounts of pressure on speaker lindsay hoyle we know that. he turned up at his office. ., . , ., , . office. how dare you repeat something _ office. how dare you repeat something you _ office. how dare you repeat something you know- office. how dare you repeat something you know not. office. how dare you repeat something you know not to | office. how dare you repeat i something you know not to be office. how dare you repeat - something you know not to be true? it something you know not to be true? it is not _ something you know not to be true? it is not true — something you know not to be true? it is not true. there was no pressure _ it is not true. there was no pressure from my leader keir starmer at aii~ _
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pressure from my leader keir starmer at aii~ the _ pressure from my leader keir starmer at all. the case was made as it is always— at all. the case was made as it is always made, what is the right balance — always made, what is the right balance in— always made, what is the right balance in terms of a debate where all three _ balance in terms of a debate where all three parties wanted to amend the hilt? — all three parties wanted to amend the bill? and i thought it was very sensible _ the bill? and i thought it was very sensible of— the bill? and i thought it was very sensible of the speaker to say, we are going — sensible of the speaker to say, we are going to take all three. if it had not — are going to take all three. if it had not been for penny mordaunt, we could ail— had not been for penny mordaunt, we could all have voted on our particular— could all have voted on our particular amendments. could all have voted on our particularamendments. keir could all have voted on our particular amendments. keir starmer acknowledged _ particular amendments. keir starmer acknowledged urging _ particular amendments. keir starmer acknowledged urging the _ particular amendments. keir starmer acknowledged urging the speaker- particular amendments. keir starmer acknowledged urging the speaker to | acknowledged urging the speaker to change the procedure today. he didn't, i'm sorry. he change the procedure today. he didn't, i'm sorry.— change the procedure today. he didn't, i'm sorry. he did, he was in the room- — didn't, i'm sorry. he did, he was in the room- i— didn't, i'm sorry. he did, he was in the room. i am _ didn't, i'm sorry. he did, he was in the room. i am sorry, _ didn't, i'm sorry. he did, he was in the room. i am sorry, you - didn't, i'm sorry. he did, he was in the room. i am sorry, you are - didn't, i'm sorry. he did, he was in l the room. i am sorry, you are wrong and you — the room. i am sorry, you are wrong and you have _ the room. i am sorry, you are wrong and you have no evidence for that. there _ and you have no evidence for that. there is— and you have no evidence for that. there is always a conversation between — there is always a conversation between the usual channels, the whips. _ between the usual channels, the whips. the — between the usual channels, the whips, the leaders of parties on party— whips, the leaders of parties on party business. and that is not, what _ party business. and that is not, what you — party business. and that is not, what you have just said is not the truth _ what you have just said is not the truth what— what you have just said is not the truth. what irritates me is you listen — truth. what irritates me is you listen in — truth. what irritates me is you listen in great silence and reverence to the last speaker, but when _ reverence to the last speaker, but when i _ reverence to the last speaker, but when i try— reverence to the last speaker, but when i try to make the case that it was penny—
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when i try to make the case that it was penny mordaunt of the conservatives that actually planned this brought a curse they are in such— this brought a curse they are in such a — this brought a curse they are in such a terrible state that they had to get _ such a terrible state that they had to get a _ such a terrible state that they had to get a diversion and that diversion was carefully planned, it was not _ diversion was carefully planned, it was not try— diversion was carefully planned, it was not by any accident —— that planned — was not by any accident —— that planned this uproar because they are in. planned this uproar because they are in the _ planned this uproar because they are in. the speaker has been an unwitting _ in. the speaker has been an unwitting victim of this plot. 30 unwitting victim of this plot. so the unwitting victim of this plot. the safety unwitting victim of this plot. sr the safety issues of mps mentioned ijy the safety issues of mps mentioned by the speaker, you see that as a real issue and if it is a real issue, what does it say about the functioning of our democracy? i think it is i'm a member of parliament that was threatened by someone — parliament that was threatened by someone who obviously was mentally ill, someone who obviously was mentally ill. coming _ someone who obviously was mentally ill, coming down to parliament and to sort— ill, coming down to parliament and to sort me — ill, coming down to parliament and to sort me out and kill me. he was arrested _ to sort me out and kill me. he was arrested at — to sort me out and kill me. he was arrested at kings cross and put into arrested at kings cross and put into a mental— arrested at kings cross and put into a mental health care, came out and i was informed that he knew where i lived and _ was informed that he knew where i lived and that he was back in
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london~ _ lived and that he was back in london. now, i'm afraid in terms of in social— london. now, i'm afraid in terms of in social media we are all the time getting _ in social media we are all the time getting this sort of threat. from all sorts— getting this sort of threat. from all sorts of— getting this sort of threat. from all sorts of people. people who focus _ all sorts of people. people who focus on — all sorts of people. people who focus on one. my next door neighbour was killed _ focus on one. my next door neighbour was killed by a... a stray man who had been — was killed by a... a stray man who had been following her on social media — had been following her on social media. jo— had been following her on social media. jo cox. she is my neighbour in terms _ media. jo cox. she is my neighbour in terms of— media. jo cox. she is my neighbour in terms of parliamentary constituencies. sol in terms of parliamentary constituencies. so i know this well. it is constituencies. so i know this well. it is not _ constituencies. so i know this well. it is not from — constituencies. so i know this well. it is not from one source. there are a lot— it is not from one source. there are a lot of— it is not from one source. there are a lot of people out there that think it is all— a lot of people out there that think it is all right to threaten members of parliament on social media. we don't _ of parliament on social media. we don't know— of parliament on social media. we don't know which are the serious ones _ don't know which are the serious ones and — don't know which are the serious ones and which are not serious. i have _ ones and which are not serious. i have to _ ones and which are not serious. i have to say. _ ones and which are not serious. i have to say. i_ ones and which are not serious. i have to say, i don't know anyone better— have to say, i don't know anyone better than — have to say, i don't know anyone better than lindsay hoyle, who has been _ better than lindsay hoyle, who has been actively supporting people like me, been actively supporting people like me. who _ been actively supporting people like me, who was absolutely for months
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worried _ me, who was absolutely for months worried about even walking near a train _ worried about even walking near a train line — worried about even walking near a train line or— worried about even walking near a train line or keeping away from the edge _ train line or keeping away from the edge of— train line or keeping away from the edge of the platform and trying different way tos to go. lindsay hoyie _ different way tos to go. lindsay hoyle stepped in and cared about any member— hoyle stepped in and cared about any member of— hoyle stepped in and cared about any member of parliament from any source — member of parliament from any source. ~ . member of parliament from any source. . , . . source. we must leave that there. thank you — source. we must leave that there. thank you for— source. we must leave that there. thank you forjoining _ source. we must leave that there. thank you forjoining us. - joe, more grim news from agencies on the ground in gaza, but some quiet progress, perhaps, on hostage negotiations? glimmers. israeli media are reporting that the war cabinet are saying peace negotiators can take part in the so far stalled talks. they're trying to avoid a ground offensive in rafah. because you have
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a million and a half palestinians in one city and you have seen aerial bombardment. i was speaking to a member of the the international red cross. he said if there is a ground invasion it will be devastating. if there were to be an intensification of the hostilities within rafah specifically, there aren't really words, i think, to describe how devastating that would be from a humanitarian perspective for civilians living here who, simply put, don't really have anywhere left to go. i think that the death toll, which is already very high, risks becoming unimaginably greater. the death toll of course, he is talking about palestinians. but we must remember there are 134 israeli hostages taken on october 7th, still thought to be in rafah. and their lives would also be in danger. thanks for bringing us up—to—date.
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sharone lifschitz is a british israeli, whose parents were kidnapped and taken hostage by hamas on 7th october. her mother yocheved was released after around two weeks. herfather, oded, is still being held. sharone, thank you forjoining us again. what is the latest? i guess you haven't heard anything from your father or his situation? flat haven't heard anything from your father or his situation?— haven't heard anything from your father or his situation? not for, we know he was _ father or his situation? not for, we know he was alive _ father or his situation? not for, we know he was alive when _ father or his situation? not for, we know he was alive when he - father or his situation? not for, we | know he was alive when he arrived. but they have no news for the last 120 days. but they have no news for the last 120 da s. �* , ., but they have no news for the last 120 da s. �* i. ., ., , 120 days. and your mother, how is she recovering _ 120 days. and your mother, how is she recovering from _ 120 days. and your mother, how is she recovering from her _ 120 days. and your mother, how is she recovering from her ordeal. i 120 days. and your mother, how is. she recovering from her ordeal. you know, it she recovering from her ordeal. you know. it is — she recovering from her ordeal. you know. it is not _ she recovering from her ordeal. you know, it is not a _ she recovering from her ordeal. gm. know, it is not a straight line. you come and you have a lot of energy, as time goes by, it becomes more complicated, it becomes harder, it becomes... the hope diminishes. using that word hope, what is your hope for the situation as you see it now? mr; hope for the situation as you see it now? ~ , ., , , hope for the situation as you see it now? g , ., hope for the situation as you see it now? g , . , now? my hope is that, as joe 'ust said, that the fi now? my hope is that, as joe 'ust said, that the israeli i
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now? my hope is that, as joe just said, that the israeli negotiatorsl said, that the israeli negotiators will go and reach a deal and that the deal will entail the release of all the hostages and that would make the best way to stop this offensive. obviously, hamas can release the hostages without a deal. if you don't want israel to go to rafah, it is probably the best way to do it. release the hostages and the incentive to go to gaza diminishes. you have long backed the idea of a ceasefire, is that message getting through to the parties?— ceasefire, is that message getting through to the parties? which party? i mean, i through to the parties? which party? i mean. i suppose — through to the parties? which party? i mean, i suppose it _ through to the parties? which party? i mean, i suppose it is _ through to the parties? which party? i mean, i suppose it is both - through to the parties? which party? i mean, i suppose it is both sides - i mean, i suppose it is both sides that need too come together? yes. i mean, i suppose it is both sides that need too come together? yes, i think the ceasefire, _ that need too come together? yes, i think the ceasefire, there _ that need too come together? yes, i think the ceasefire, there is - that need too come together? yes, i think the ceasefire, there is a - that need too come together? yes, i think the ceasefire, there is a lot - think the ceasefire, there is a lot of pressure on israel to reach a ceasefire and i can understand it, because the situation in gaza and in rafah is horrendous. at the same time, israel must be able to protect its citizens, hamas attacked our
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community in the most horrendous way. and israel will need reassurance of some security. again, israel has a huge... it owes a huge debt to its citizens that are being kept hostage and it must return them. that is the way it reaches security. them. that is the way it reaches securi . ., ., ., security. your mother on her release. _ security. your mother on her release, she came _ security. your mother on her release, she came face - security. your mother on her release, she came face to i security. your mother on her. release, she came face to face security. your mother on her- release, she came face to face with the hamas leader in gaza. does she still believe she saws the eyes of somebody who a deal could be done? it has been confirmed by other hostages that came back in the first deal that it was sin war. does hostages that came back in the first deal that it was sin war.— deal that it was sin war. does she still feel peace _ deal that it was sin war. does she still feel peace can _ deal that it was sin war. does she still feel peace can be _ deal that it was sin war. does she still feel peace can be achieved? l deal that it was sin war. does she i still feel peace can be achieved? my still feel peace can be achieved? iji mother still feel peace can be achieved? iii: mother believed still feel peace can be achieved? mi: mother believed that still feel peace can be achieved? is’i’u' mother believed that we still feel peace can be achieved? is’i’l mother believed that we should still feel peace can be achieved? iii mother believed that we should aim for peace. that we should protect ourself, but we will never be a fully protected without a diplomatic
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long—term agreement. x�*t�*aur fully protected without a diplomatic long-term agreement.— fully protected without a diplomatic long-term agreement. your family is from more a — long-term agreement. your family is from more a liberal— long-term agreement. your family is from more a liberal kind _ long-term agreement. your family is from more a liberal kind of... - long-term agreement. your family is from more a liberal kind of... side i from more a liberal kind of... side of israeli politics.— of israeli politics. that is fair. that is not. — of israeli politics. that is fair. that is not, that _ of israeli politics. that is fair. that is not, that is _ of israeli politics. that is fair. that is not, that is not - of israeli politics. that is fair. that is not, that is not the i that is not, that is not the majority opinion in israel, or is it shifting in terms of public opinion as regards the war, or as the binyamin netanyahu government? i think there is a majority in israel that wishes to live and to reach long—term agreements that support the absence of war at least for both side social security. and in prooef —— for both sides. and in previous conflicts the israeli public pushed for a ceasefire. i think in many respects we are in the majority. i think both us and the palestinians are in need of leaders that actually tell us the truth. that takes the us
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down from big trees and it is all to win or all to lose, into an existence that supports life on both sides. thank you very much.- sides. thank you very much. thank ou ve sides. thank you very much. thank you very much- _ a bbc newsnight investigation has found that in at least nine cases of domestic homicide, west yorkshire police knew of nine women who had fears for their safety between 2019 and 2023. in two of the killings — of bethany fields and fawziyahjaved — the programme has learned that the police had not conducted proper risk assessments for these women when they had reported domestic abuse. police adviser and homicide expert professorjane monckton smith said she believed that there were missed opportunities and that the deaths of bethany and fawziyah could have been prevented. yasminara khan has this exclusive investigation. huddersfield, september2019. a 21—year—old university student has been violently stabbed multiple
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times in broad daylight. i noticed two missed calls from bethany�*s father. i knew instantly there was something amiss, so i phoned him up straight away. my first words were, "is bethany ok?" he said, "i can't tell you that". i asked him where he was. he told me, down at elland road police station. we got inside this this room. and i looked and i saw bethany�*s father absolutely in bits. totally distraught. and i kept saying to this guy, "just tell me she's ok". and then he said the words that no parent ever wants to hear and should have to hear. "she didn't survive her injuries." and straightaway i said, "is that paul crowther?" and he nodded and i said, "she came to you for help." and theyjust put their heads down.
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i died — in that moment i died. the killer, paul crowther, bethany�*s former boyfriend, was arrested in less than an hour after a short car chase. crowther was well known to the police. over the previous seven years, he had been arrested nine times under the mental health act, but was never sectioned, despite being the named suspect in domestic incidents with two different previous partners and had been served with a restraining order four years previously. a bit late night cycle practice! his victim, bethany fields, and three other people had made complaints about his threats to harm or kill others in the four weeks before she was killed. bbc newsnight is aware that bethany was at least one of nine women who were killed by a partner, ex—partner, or a relative after they or a third party went to west yorkshire police regarding the perpetrator
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between 2019 and 2023. and in some of the cases, the abuser was known to the police. experts say that the police, amongst other things, didn't undertake risk assessments properly. and families have told us that had the police responded appropriately, these women might still be alive today. in the case of the killing of bethany fields, the police referred themselves to the independent office for police conduct, who found a number of failings, including staff shortages. a failure to properly use police intelligence tojoin the dots. a failure to recognise that a serious crime of stalking and or coercive control had been potentially committed, which could have led to an arrest. and a failure to properly complete a risk assessment, which would have categorised bethany as high risk. the police watchdog inquiry also found that the officer
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who had been left to look after the case was a probationary officer, who had only been working without direct supervision for a period of two weeks. it needed a senior officer. but my daughter put hertrust, her life, in their hands. as far as i'm concerned, they failed my daughter. west yorkshire police failed my daughter. professorjane monckton smith is a forensics expert who has researched and written extensively on interpersonal violence and has advised a number of police forces, including west yorkshire. people don't always make death threats to each other. that's not a normal part of a relationship. we know that in risk assessment, all of the research is telling us that somebody starts talking about death in response to a separation or a breakup, that is potentially homicidal ideation. you need to use that
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information as well to inform your risk assessment. and if they're not doing that, then that's a real problem with the training. if the risk assessment process itself isn't effective, it could be much worse than a waste of time. it could actually put that person in more danger. bethany�*s family are not alone in saying west yorkshire police let their daughter down. last year, newsnight spoke with yasminjavid, whose daughter fawziyah was murdered on a trip to edinburgh when her partner pushed her off a cliff on arhtur�*s seat, killing her and her unborn child. he was convicted of her murder and later tried to appeal his sentence, which was rejected. fawziyah, like bethany, had reported domestic abuse to west yorkshire police — in her case twice, once in april 2021 and six days before
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she was killed in september. the first time around that - the police came to see fawziyah, they told fawziyah that she was medium risk. l and then shortly after that, - they reassessed her and regraded it to high risk. and that was information that was never communicated to fawziyah. or myself, which obviously- would have made a big difference because fawziyah went back thinking, i'll be fine. - the second time round, _ the police officer that came to take a statement from fawziyah, - she never communicated to fawziyah that now that she was going to leave the abuser, that she was at high - risk and also the fact i that she was pregnant, she was at high risk. had all this information _ being communicated to fawziyah. there is no way that - fawziyah would have gone on that trip to edinburgh. she was sensible. she was sensible, and she would have taken that on board. _ she would never have put her life
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and her baby's life at risk. - how does this all make you feel? really angry, really upset — fawziyah's death could - have been prevented. i've lost my only child and her baby in horrific circumstances. _ that's something - you'll never get over. today, fawziyah's baby- would have been two years old. an innocent life. he never got to live. west yorkshire police told bbc newsnight: "the circumstances prior to the murder of fawziyahjavid, including the reports of domestic abuse that she made to west yorkshire police, are the subject of an ongoing domestic homicide review." i think there were opportunities to prevent the deaths of fawziyah and bethany, and it wasn't necessarily simply through the safeguarding of those two women, but the management of those two men.
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karma nirvana, a charity based in west yorkshire that deals with honour—based abuse, has taken part in three domestic homicide reviews, including the current inquiry into fawziyahjavid. we see a repeat of key recommendations coming up time and time again of things that we need to do, which by the time you're in your third domestic homicide review, you're questioning, why is this still coming up as a recommendation? west yorkshire police told this programme: "west yorkshire police safeguarding governance have worked closely with karma nirvana over the last two years. the force has also been working with professorjane monckton smith in delivering conference and training courses around the eight stages of domestic homicide." west yorkshire domestic abuse policy identifies threats to kill, a previous history of domestic abuse, and a history of mental health and suicide as warning markers which should result in a higher risk assessment. bethany was assessed
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as being at medium risk. just over two weeks before she was killed, bethany contacted police again about paul crowther, who had been reported missing. in a telephone call recorded and handed to the police watchdog, the iopc, she said: "in all honesty, he should have been sectioned a long time ago now. in the last few months, the amount of times i've spoken to the police when he has tried killing himself, the amount of death threats he's made." west yorkshire police told bbc newsnight: "as a result of both the domestic homicide review and the iopc investigation conducted following bethany�*s murder, west yorkshire police has accepted and implemented all recommendations raised through these reports." when bethany�*s killer finally face justice, he was given a manslaughter conviction for diminished responsibility, and thejudge ordered him to be detained in hospital as part of his minimum sentence of 12 years. no way should it have
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ever been manslaughter. it was premeditated murder. he's evil — pure evil. wicked. a master manipulator and a very, very, very dangerous man, who should never, ever be released. never. west yorkshire police, in their statement, told this programme: "our sympathies go out to the families of bethany fields and fawziyahjavid for the devastating and tragic losses they have suffered. during summer 2023, the force trained 3,250 frontline officers and staff in the domestic abuse matters training." the police watchdog concluded that, despite a catalogue of errors and oversights, it was impossible to say whether, in bethany�*s case, the tragic outcome could have been avoided. but the families of the victims in west yorkshire are still asking,
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why were key warning signs overlooked, and why couldn't the police act? powerful report. let's get more from jess phillips — labour mp for birmingham, yardley — who sits on the committee for the criminaljustice bill. thanks forjoining us again. and we are here again talking about the same issue, but on this occasion, it is pretty clear there were warnings from the eventual victim of the killing themselves. are you surprised in any way? i killing themselves. are you surprised in any way?- killing themselves. are you surprised in any way? i am not at all surprised _ surprised in any way? i am not at all surprised to _ surprised in any way? i am not at all surprised to hear _ surprised in any way? i am not at all surprised to hear that - surprised in any way? i am not at all surprised to hear that review. all surprised to hear that review after review, whether it is by the iopc or domestic homicide reviews that make the same recommendations over and over and over again, every time there is one of these killings, we will say there are failings. i have dealt with hundreds of cases of
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domestic homicide over my 20 years working in this field and the truth is at least 50% of them could have been averted. and had for example in the case of fawziyah, and i have worked with fawziyah's family, if fawziyah had come to me and said she was pregnant, she was considering leaving, the first thing i would have said to her because i am a trained person, iwould have have said to her because i am a trained person, i would have said, you realise your dress you are at massive risk? let's put something in place because these two things mean you are in danger. why was that not said to her? hand you are in danger. why was that not said to her?— said to her? and you heard the res-onse said to her? and you heard the response from west _ said to her? and you heard the response from west yorkshire | said to her? and you heard the - response from west yorkshire police that they put in place training for thousands of officers, will that make a difference as far as you can see? i make a difference as far as you can see? ~ . make a difference as far as you can see? ,, , ., ., ., make a difference as far as you can see? ,, , ., , see? i think it is good for people to have training. _ see? i think it is good for people to have training. at _ see? i think it is good for people to have training. at 20 _ see? i think it is good for people to have training. at 20 years - see? i think it is good for people. to have training. at 20 years ago, we said police should be trained on this and in 20 years' time, i will say the exact same thing. i'm afraid to say it is simply not enough. police forces across our country do
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not prioritise violence against women and girls, domestic violence that often leads to domestic homicide anywhere near as much as they should. we need to have specialist women safety units as was recommended at the metropolitan police by the louise kc review a year ago. they need to be focused and properly resourced and make sure that the people who work on this are not rookies just starting out, but have the proper amount of detectives, that have people who are not police officers, who are expert in this field working alongside them in their stations to make those connections. and until that is the case, i guarantee you i will be on here again next year saying the exact same thing about —— about the next nine cases. exact same thing about -- about the next nine cases.— next nine cases. there have been lots of efforts _ next nine cases. there have been lots of efforts at _ next nine cases. there have been lots of efforts at legislation - next nine cases. there have been lots of efforts at legislation on i lots of efforts at legislation on this from the government. so it is not a lot of legislation here, is it resource income attitudes generally?
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actually, attitudes have improved massively and there is reason to be cheerful the public have had enough of the lack of attention on women's safety and mothers and daughters and sisters are not safe for themselves, in fact. but the truth is there is plenty of legislation. it is not acted on. it is not resourced properly. it is not prioritised, it is not a political priority. domestic abuse sits within the home office in our country. that is where the policy is held from. if you can find me any evidence that they care as much about this as they do about small boats, i will give you the amount of money it would take to resource it properly. theyjust is not the push and the will and the drive to do this. there has to be political will from the top to make sure that this is happening in every police force, every social services, every health authority.— every health authority. whilst we have ou, every health authority. whilst we have you, obviously _ every health authority. whilst we have you, obviously you - every health authority. whilst wej have you, obviously you resigned over the gaza vote, the frontbench
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has changed its position, is the leadership —— is the labour leadership —— is the labour leadership in the right place on this and would you rejoin if you asked? i this and would you re'oin if you asked? . , , . , ., this and would you re'oin if you asked? . , , ., asked? i am very pleased to say the osition asked? i am very pleased to say the position has — asked? i am very pleased to say the position has moved. _ asked? i am very pleased to say the position has moved. i _ asked? i am very pleased to say the position has moved. ithink- asked? i am very pleased to say the position has moved. i think they - asked? i am very pleased to say the position has moved. i think they arej position has moved. i think they are in the right place, i think what happened in parliament this week didn't cover anybody in particular glory, but i was glad to see the motion actually passed another passing of that motion, the labour motion that's it immediate ceasefire and no ground invasion in rafah, we have to make that passing of that motion means something —— that's it an immediate ceasefire. resigning over your principles and motions, thatis over your principles and motions, that is not enough, that is the least we should do as politicians, it is the work we do now to make sure these things mean something and influence our government because we don't have influence over the israeli government or hamas. thank ou for israeli government or hamas. thank you forjoining _ israeli government or hamas. thank you forjoining us. — israeli government or hamas. thank you forjoining us, jess _ israeli government or hamas. thank you forjoining us, jess phillips. - the americans are back on the moon — for the first time since the apollo era. may just about.
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maybe just about. texan company intuitive machines become the first company to achieve this giant step for private commerce. we can see the pictures of the lunar surface — it was meant to land on a skm—high mountain on the moon called malapert. this could be a precursor to renewed efforts to land man back on the moon, and even space or moon tourism. doctor simon is from the interplanetary society. we haven't had confirmation just yet that they have got there. we think happen at any moment. what would it mean to see notjust the americans back on the moon, but also a commercial entity having driven that, is it any different for a government entity? absolutely, it is tremendously exciting. we have this tremendous opportunity, we are going back to the moon. i think that will create a lot of inspiration for the general public and for all industries involved. it is really paving the way to show a new way in which we
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can explore space. a new way?

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