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leaders cast their votes as millions go to the polls in the european union. now on bbc news, newscast. connor has written to us, high newscast is, i wanted to say i hated this label in the 2019 election. workington man was later able to put on a cliched group of boaters who supposedly won it for boris johnson. group of boaters who supposedly won it for borisjohnson. connor has a side bar, could you explain how this general election could affect scotland if labour wins a majority
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of scottish westminster seats, could we see a labour first minister or would that be decided by a scottish election? ps, and i love this bit, and i avoided using tartan will purely for laura's benefit. good mornin: purely for laura's benefit. good morning to _ purely for laura's benefit. good morning to you. _ purely for laura's benefit. good morning to you. i _ purely for laura's benefit. good morning to you. i am _ purely for laura's benefit. good morning to you. i am not - purely for laura's benefit. good morning to you. i am not a - purely for laura's benefit. good morning to you. i am not a fan | purely for laura's benefit. good i morning to you. i am not a fan of tartan. we will answer that question, but have to quit listening. if you are the things to go through today. yes listening. if you are the things to go through today.— listening. if you are the things to go through today. yes we have the vafious go through today. yes we have the various commitments _ go through today. yes we have the various commitments made, - go through today. yes we have the various commitments made, theyl go through today. yes we have the i various commitments made, they are really— various commitments made, they are really new_ various commitments made, they are really new commitments on welfare reform _ really new commitments on welfare reform and — really new commitments on welfare reform and we also have the previous for the _ reform and we also have the previous for the manifestos. it�*s reform and we also have the previous for the manifestos.— for the manifestos. it's going to be an exciting — for the manifestos. it's going to be an exciting episode. _ hello it's hello its lower in the studio. it's
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james in glasgow. it's nice to have the two of you here on a sunday afternoon. i the two of you here on a sunday afternoon-— the two of you here on a sunday afternoon. ., , , ., afternoon. i fought my way through thickets of pollen _ afternoon. i fought my way through thickets of pollen trying... - afternoon. i fought my way through thickets of pollen trying... it's - thickets of pollen trying... it's all male — thickets of pollen trying... it's all male trees who try to mate with you. all male trees who try to mate with ou. ~ ., all male trees who try to mate with yon- someone _ all male trees who try to mate with you.- someone planted - all male trees who try to mate with you.- someone planted only| all male trees who try to mate with you. what? someone planted only male trees and that's — you. what? someone planted only male trees and that's why _ you. what? someone planted only male trees and that's why the _ you. i�*ll someone planted only male trees and that's why the pollen is terrible — trees and that's why the pollen is terrible. , ~ , , i. terrible. yes in westminster you get clobbered and _ terrible. yes in westminster you get clobbered and crying _ terrible. yes in westminster you get clobbered and crying on _ terrible. yes in westminster you get clobbered and crying on the - terrible. yes in westminster you get clobbered and crying on the news i clobbered and crying on the news because of the pollen. the mac that is what it is and it's, the australians got rid of it. if i sneeze, that is why. let australians got rid of it. if i sneeze, that is why. let start with toda 's sneeze, that is why. let start with today's news- _ sneeze, that is why. let start with today's news. it _ sneeze, that is why. let start with today's news. it has _ sneeze, that is why. let start with today's news. it has been - sneeze, that is why. let start with today's news. it has been a - today's news. it has been a busy election morning. not with one gigantic story but lots of different things coming out. the tories were coming out with stories about the changes to the benefit system, extra cash for mental health. the
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difference between them and the conservatives on that is that they would give thejustice secretary the power to build that instead of going through planning. the lib dem manifesto is coming tomorrow. they have been talking about tackling ambulance delays by improving social care. prominent politicians have fudged the care for elderly and vulnerable for so long. labour has had an attack from the snp saying they can't implement the cuts, the number they would have to had, it would be more austerity, where with their money come from. the common theme is the cash. when you look at this and when things are going, what the big questions in terms of where to look back how their sums add up don't? white a to look back how their sums add up
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don't? white— to look back how their sums add up don't? white a lot of the numbers is -h sical don't? white a lot of the numbers is physical shadow-boxing. _ don't? white a lot of the numbers is physical shadow-boxing. they - don't? white a lot of the numbers is physical shadow-boxing. they don't| physical shadow—boxing. they don't have the _ physical shadow—boxing. they don't have the numbers. we are going to -et have the numbers. we are going to get the _ have the numbers. we are going to get the manifestos and some costing documents or some part of those manifestos show that they supposedly all add _ manifestos show that they supposedly all add on _ manifestos show that they supposedly alladd up. everything manifestos show that they supposedly all add up. everything up until this point _ all add up. everything up until this point has — all add up. everything up until this point has been an accusation from one side _ point has been an accusation from one side to — point has been an accusation from one side to another about how on some _ one side to another about how on some other— one side to another about how on some other set of assumptions they might— some other set of assumptions they might not— some other set of assumptions they might not add up. we have seen the conservatives doubling down on their £2000 _ conservatives doubling down on their £2000 labour tax tories claim. —— labour— £2000 labour tax tories claim. —— labour tax — £2000 labour tax tories claim. —— labour tax rise claim. i think, the bil labour tax rise claim. i think, the big news— labour tax rise claim. i think, the big news for— labour tax rise claim. i think, the big news for me, you have to reverse engineer— big news for me, you have to reverse engineer this — big news for me, you have to reverse engineer this announcement. we will -et engineer this announcement. we will get into— engineer this announcement. we will get into detail on welfare. perfectly plausible that you might think that you can save money on a bill that— think that you can save money on a bill that is— think that you can save money on a bill that is kind of going up, you could _ bill that is kind of going up, you could even— bill that is kind of going up, you could even say ballooning, since a pandemio — could even say ballooning, since a pandemic. there are reasons for that _ pandemic. there are reasons for that but, — pandemic. there are reasons for that. but, why have they announced 12 billion _ that. but, why have they announced 12 billion of— that. but, why have they announced 12 billion of savings today, this weekend, _ 12 billion of savings today, this weekend, on sunday with their
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manifesto coming out on tuesday? to my mind, _ manifesto coming out on tuesday? to my mind, that creates, it is manifesto _ my mind, that creates, it is manifesto accounting, i would call it that _ manifesto accounting, i would call it that it— manifesto accounting, i would call it that. it creates a pot, quote and quote _ it that. it creates a pot, quote and quote that— it that. it creates a pot, quote and quote that you can spend, quote and quote _ quote that you can spend, quote and quote on _ quote that you can spend, quote and quote on some kind of manifesto offer~ _ quote on some kind of manifesto offer. there was a briefing on friday— offer. there was a briefing on friday about some of the tax cuts. it friday about some of the tax cuts. it looks _ friday about some of the tax cuts. it looks rather modest it is fair to say in _ it looks rather modest it is fair to say in terms of light, is there something that could change the game _ something that could change the game. they are going to spend the 12 billion— game. they are going to spend the 12 billion on— game. they are going to spend the 12 billion on something. it brings back into play— billion on something. it brings back into play maybe in inheritance tax or an _ into play maybe in inheritance tax or an insurance move. that's why you would _ or an insurance move. that's why you would do _ or an insurance move. that's why you would do this— or an insurance move. that's why you would do this i— or an insurance move. that's why you would do this i think. the 12 billion— would do this i think. the 12 billion has been questioned by the iss billion has been questioned by the iss and _ billion has been questioned by the iss and others but i think that is the direction of travel as a result of the _ the direction of travel as a result of the announcements that we got this weekend.— this weekend. there could be a romise this weekend. there could be a promise in _ this weekend. there could be a promise in inheritance - this weekend. there could be a promise in inheritance tax - this weekend. there could be a promise in inheritance tax outs| this weekend. there could be a l promise in inheritance tax outs in the tory manifesto. we know theoretically that would be lapped up. whether it would be have an
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effect on voters is a good question. you talked a lot this morning about the undecided voter, about it's interesting to ponder how many of those there might be or how many people after 1a years of conservative rule might have perhaps made up their minds about whether they like what they see or don't like what they see. i wonder if, and i think this was reflected in some of the chat you had in the panel, whether some people are still waiting, photos i mean to see what labour is going to spell out on this in the manifesto. there has been so much talk about change and then the question that keeps rebounding on keir starmer is, what precisely does that change look like. that is what the snp are trying to tap into by suggesting, in their view, that there isn't a great deal of substance around that change. their
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argument is, look, if you want substantive change, significant change, and you want a party that will hold both labour and the tories to account on delivering the substantive change, then you need to vote for someone else. you can get into a whole load of debates about whether that is a credible position and whether any party will deliver change, but i wonder if it doesn't all come back to the same thing, which is, are our politicians, all of them, being honest about the state of the economy, about how well we are growing or otherwise, about productivity in this country and about the direction of travel and therefore how much money they have available to spend. ads, therefore how much money they have available to spend. 3 lat therefore how much money they have available to spend.— available to spend. a lot of people would say the _ available to spend. a lot of people would say the clear _ available to spend. a lot of people would say the clear answer - available to spend. a lot of people would say the clear answer is - available to spend. a lot of people would say the clear answer is no. | would say the clear answer is no. the billionaire who founded and made lots of money from phones four u was on our panel. he gave lots of money tobiasjohnson and now takes a dim
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view of rishi sunak. he has not been convinced by labour. he says he is a lost voter and doesn't think any of them are being radical or credible on the economy and particularly he is very interested in green investment and climate change and he thinks they are missing a big opportunity. but the people who don't know are still there. when you talk to both parties and the other parties they say they don't knows are still there in a surprising proportion at this election. let's have a listen to how mel stride said they would pay for some of the very many policies that they have announced already. compare our record, announced already. compare our record. there _ announced already. compare our record, there is _ announced already. compare our record, there is the _ announced already. compare our record, there is the tax - announced already. compare our record, there is the tax gap, - announced already. compare our record, there is the tax gap, the | record, there is the tax gap, the difference — record, there is the tax gap, the difference between _ record, there is the tax gap, the difference between what - record, there is the tax gap, the difference between what you - record, there is the tax gap, the - difference between what you should brin- difference between what you should bring in _ difference between what you should bring in intact — difference between what you should bring in intact and _ difference between what you should bring in intact and what _ difference between what you should bring in intact and what you - difference between what you should bring in intact and what you do. - difference between what you should bring in intact and what you do. you did some bring in intact and what you do. did some research on it. bring in intact and what you do. you did some research on it. under- did some research on it. under labour in _
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did some research on it. under labour in 2020 _ did some research on it. under labour in 2020 -- _ did some research on it. under labour in 2020 -- it _ did some research on it. under labour in 2020 -- it was - did some research on it. under labour in 2020 -- it was at - did some research on it. under. labour in 2020 -- it was at 2096, labour in 2020 —— it was at 20%, under— labour in 2020 —— it was at 20%, under ourselves— labour in 2020 —— it was at 20%, under ourselves it _ labour in 2020 —— it was at 20%, under ourselves it was _ labour in 2020 —— it was at 20%, under ourselves it was up - labour in 2020 —— it was at 20%, under ourselves it was up 4%. i labour in 2020 —— it was at 20%,| under ourselves it was up 4%. we labour in 2020 —— it was at 20%, - under ourselves it was up 4%. we are much _ under ourselves it was up 4%. we are much lletter— under ourselves it was up 4%. we are much better at— under ourselves it was up 4%. we are much better at doing _ under ourselves it was up 4%. we are much better at doing this. _ under ourselves it was up 496. we are much better at doing this.— much better at doing this. labour havin: much better at doing this. labour having been _ much better at doing this. labour having been in — much better at doing this. labour having been in charge _ much better at doing this. labour having been in charge for - much better at doing this. labour having been in charge for 14 i having been in charge for 1h years. we have a track whether god to deliver — we have a track whether god to deliver all— we have a track whether god to deliver. all of _ we have a track whether god to deliver. all of those _ we have a track whether god to deliver. all of those measures i we have a track whether god to i deliver. all of those measures that we have _ deliver. all of those measures that we have shown _ deliver. all of those measures that we have shown you _ deliver. all of those measures that we have shown you are _ deliver. all of those measures that we have shown you are covered i deliver. all of those measures that we have shown you are covered by| we have shown you are covered by that plus — we have shown you are covered by that plus it— we have shown you are covered by that lus. , ., . we have shown you are covered by that lus. ,, . . . that plus. if you are so great at crackin: that plus. if you are so great at cracking down _ that plus. if you are so great at cracking down on _ that plus. if you are so great at cracking down on tax _ that plus. if you are so great at i cracking down on tax avoidance and getting money back for hard—working people, why haven't you done it already? brute people, why haven't you done it alread ? ~ . , ., . already? we have been doing and there is more _ already? we have been doing and there is more we _ already? we have been doing and there is more we can _ already? we have been doing and there is more we can do. - already? we have been doing and there is more we can do. i i already? we have been doing and there is more we can do. i want i already? we have been doing and| there is more we can do. i want to ut on there is more we can do. i want to put on the — there is more we can do. i want to put on the record that _ there is more we can do. i want to put on the record that politicians l put on the record that politicians always say they can get money back from tax avoidance but don't always get what they say they can. 0ur fact checkers said tax had already been coming down under labour and the graph going down has continued under conservatives but there isn't a big contrast particularly, which he was trying to claim.
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the 6 billion that you talk about is to fund _ the 6 billion that you talk about is to fund national service in the triple — to fund national service in the triple lock— to fund national service in the triple lock plus. the 12 billon, as i triple lock plus. the 12 billon, as i was _ triple lock plus. the 12 billon, as i was saying opens up some extra space — i was saying opens up some extra space for— i was saying opens up some extra space for something is the 12 billion— space for something is the 12 billion fair? well it comes from savings — billion fair? well it comes from savings from welfare spending that was pre—pandemic £49 billion per year it— was pre—pandemic £49 billion per year it is— was pre—pandemic £49 billion per year it is now 60 billion and it is heading — year it is now 60 billion and it is heading to— year it is now 60 billion and it is heading to below 80 billion for 28, 29 you _ heading to below 80 billion for 28, 29 you are — heading to below 80 billion for 28, 29 you are slowing the rate of growth — 29 you are slowing the rate of growth from 49 up to 80 and then maybe _ growth from 49 up to 80 and then maybe 12 — growth from 49 up to 80 and then maybe 12 billion. the problem is that many— maybe 12 billion. the problem is that many of the things, the steps that many of the things, the steps that they— that many of the things, the steps that they had detailed today, are already— that they had detailed today, are
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already factored into the 80 billion _ already factored into the 80 billion. the biggest one that isn't, it seems— billion. the biggest one that isn't, it seems difficult to think you would — it seems difficult to think you would save 12 billion from that. you might— would save 12 billion from that. you might save — would save 12 billion from that. you might save 12 billion from others. there _ might save 12 billion from others. there was— might save 12 billion from others. there was a debate about 12 billion welfare _ there was a debate about 12 billion welfare savings in the 2015 election. the ifs have been hugely critical— election. the ifs have been hugely critical straightaway saying essentially that this is a heroic assumption and seems unlikely that they would reach that, based on what they would reach that, based on what they have _ they would reach that, based on what they have announced. it is a piece of manifesto accounting that provide some _ of manifesto accounting that provide some space. what is interesting as labour's _ some space. what is interesting as labour's response. you might expect them _ labour's response. you might expect them to— labour's response. you might expect them to say— labour's response. you might expect them to say they also have it to spend _ them to say they also have it to spend it. — them to say they also have it to spend it, they feel confident enough to attack— spend it, they feel confident enough to attack it _ spend it, they feel confident enough to attack it as nonsense accounting. the independent number crunches have looked at the sums and thought, not
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sure if that add up. james, you have your hand up, that's so polite. i feel like a teacher.— your hand up, that's so polite. i feel like a teacher. what struck me is that, i wouldn't _ feel like a teacher. what struck me is that, i wouldn't be _ feel like a teacher. what struck me is that, i wouldn't be interested i is that, i wouldn't be interested to know what you think about this. isn't the question, are these people genuinely disabled or not, these people who are claiming this benefit? is it not at least possible that because of the crisis in the nhs, i have spent a lot of time in hospitals and i can assure you that everybody thinks it is in crisis, is it not possible that the skyrocketing waiting lists, which means that people are waiting longer and longerfor one piece of treatment, that their condition might deteriorate and that might be exacerbated and other conditions might be developing. that is what is
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contributing to the rise in those disability payments and therefore, you can't disentangle the idea of tackling the welfare system from fixing the nhs?— fixing the nhs? that's right and that's why welfare _ fixing the nhs? that's right and that's why welfare reform i fixing the nhs? that's right and that's why welfare reform has . fixing the nhs? that's right and i that's why welfare reform has always been very difficult and there is a long list of reasons why it always has been difficult. you're talking about people with significant needs, with significant needs connected to different public services. it's not just that you claim your benefit. we cut your benefit or you make you go back to work. these are people with complicated issues, then of course there are, in the system, people who don't need the amount of support that they are getting. i am not making accusations but there is some level of benefit fraud and people making claims that most taxpayers would think they don't deserve. what you have seen over a long period is both of the parties become more
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interested in what they call conditionality, in other words making it harderfor conditionality, in other words making it harder for people to get taxpayers cash even if they're judged to need it. there are more hoops and obstacles that you have to get over. but the bill is absolutely gi enormous and is getting bigger. it is a real challenge for all politicians, whether or not their sums on its add up. the conservatives would argue that they have recognised that by putting half a billion in talking therapies so you don't have to pay in advance. the bigger point is there has been a structural change past the bigger point is there has been a structural chang— the bigger point is there has been a structural change post pandemic most --eole are structural change post pandemic most people are likely _ structural change post pandemic most people are likely to _ structural change post pandemic most people are likely to say _ structural change post pandemic most people are likely to say that _ structural change post pandemic most people are likely to say that they i people are likely to say that they have a _ people are likely to say that they have a mental health condition that prevent— have a mental health condition that prevent them from doing work and therefore — prevent them from doing work and therefore need benefits. that is a change _ therefore need benefits. that is a change. whoever gets into government in a month's— change. whoever gets into government in a month's time will have to address— in a month's time will have to address this in some way. it's a cultural— address this in some way. it's a cultural thing.
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address this in some way. it's a culturalthing. everyone is address this in some way. it's a cultural thing. everyone is going to argue _ cultural thing. everyone is going to argue that — cultural thing. everyone is going to argue that upfront. can they actually— argue that upfront. can they actually come up practically with a solution — actually come up practically with a solution, that is the question. this -la s into solution, that is the question. this plays into the _ solution, that is the question. try 3 plays into the debate here in scotland in a particularly interesting way because what you have here is particularly in the central belt of scotland, the old industrial central belt and particularly glasgow, is the discussion about who are the genuine inheritors of the old labour left leaning vote in this city and other old industrial heartlands around it. one of the big issues that is coming up one of the big issues that is coming up in that debate and you are hearing the snp trying to hammer home is, look, they say that both labour and the conservatives take a similar approach on this issue in terms of their levels of public spending and in terms of their approach to welfare and trying to control as they would see it, labour
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and the tories, the welfare budget. there has been a particular row about the to child benefit cap. this idea that you can only claim universal credit or tax credits on the first two children in a family. the snp campaigning hard saying that is cruel and unfair the snp campaigning hard saying that is crueland unfairand the snp campaigning hard saying that is cruel and unfair and needs to be loosened up and expanded to other children or back to what it was. labour giving the sense that they want to do that but they are being careful with the purse strings. that is a dividing line as people are fighting here particularly here in glasgow to see whether labour can win back some of that support the west to the smp last time. it is win back some of that support the west to the smp last time.- west to the smp last time. it is a challen . e west to the smp last time. it is a challenge for _ west to the smp last time. it is a challenge for labour— west to the smp last time. it is a challenge for labour in _ west to the smp last time. it is a challenge for labour in terms i west to the smp last time. it is a challenge for labour in terms ofl challenge for labour in terms of wrangling their left flank in scotland or other places, where the compass is a little bit more to the left stop not as much as people would think. but the compasses
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probably a little bit further to the left. in terms of what labour was offering today it's not something that's going to get people going wild. they are offered today was to carry on with the tory commitment to build 20,000 extra prison places, but to change the planning roles to do them more quickly. what was interesting was that the conservatives have been letting prisoners out early because the prisons are so full. labour was very reluctant to spell out that labour would probably also keep doing that if they went —— win. they were very hesitant. no politician wants to say were letting prisoners out early. but it was clear they might have to carry on with that. but they said they would publish the numbers. part ofthe they would publish the numbers. part of the reason — they would publish the numbers. fist of the reason we have overcrowding in prisons is because they haven't delivered the full 20,000 prison places that they said they would do by next year. it's not a money
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problem in that respect. the money has been allocated in the ministry ofjustice budget, it is a failure ofjustice budget, it is a failure of the government, because they have allowed the planning system to get in the way and they have allowed complaints from their mps, to stop any building in our country. this is about the government having the will to get prisons built on day one we would designate prisons of being of national importance so those decisions are made by ministers rather than the usual planning process. we love to hear from you, do get in touch with us. lewis from colchester got in touch with this question. colchester got in touch with this ruestion. , ., ., . , , question. lewis from colchester, my ruestion question. lewis from colchester, my question is. — question. lewis from colchester, my question is, when _ question. lewis from colchester, my question is, when can _ question. lewis from colchester, my question is, when can we _ question. lewis from colchester, my question is, when can we expect i question. lewis from colchester, my question is, when can we expect to i question is, when can we expect to see each— question is, when can we expect to see each other party's manifestos and what — see each other party's manifestos and what is the strategy behind the timing? _ and what is the strategy behind the timing? is— and what is the strategy behind the timing? is it better to go early or are they— timing? is it better to go early or are they keen to show a force opponents to show their hand? it's
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like a _ opponents to show their hand? it's like a game — opponents to show their hand? it's like a game of poker over whether you show— like a game of poker over whether you show your hand. my sense is that we know _ you show your hand. my sense is that we know what's in the labour manifesto is hammered down because they had _ manifesto is hammered down because they had their union meeting on friday— they had their union meeting on friday so— they had their union meeting on friday so it _ they had their union meeting on friday so it is kind of family and place _ friday so it is kind of family and place. they are not going to get to react— place. they are not going to get to react to _ place. they are not going to get to react to what happens on tuesday in the conservative manifesto. have you ever known— the conservative manifesto. have you ever known anyone to change the manifesto — ever known anyone to change the manifesto as a result of what they had in _ manifesto as a result of what they had in another one?— manifesto as a result of what they had in another one? know but i know the tory manifesto _ had in another one? know but i know the tory manifesto wasn't _ had in another one? know but i know the tory manifesto wasn't printed i the tory manifesto wasn't printed as of yesterday. that is a little fun fact. i get the feeling that that was a more fluid process. however, they are paranoid about this. the labour manifesto bleak. —— leaked in 2017. labour manifesto bleak. -- leaked in 2017. ., �* , labour manifesto bleak. -- leaked in 2017. ., �*, ., , ., 2017. that's what propelled them a
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bit. the manifesto, _ 2017. that's what propelled them a bit. the manifesto, i— 2017. that's what propelled them a bit. the manifesto, i don't- 2017. that's what propelled them a bit. the manifesto, i don't think i bit. the manifesto, i don't think there is an _ bit. the manifesto, i don't think there is an underhand _ bit. the manifesto, i don't think there is an underhand plotting. | bit. the manifesto, i don't think i there is an underhand plotting. the parties think very carefully every day about what the others are doing. they are all watching the chess pieces on the board and who is doing what and when. as far as we know the lib dems are tomorrow, the smp is much later on. lib dems are tomorrow, the smp is much later on— much later on. yes, the 19th. stehen much later on. yes, the 19th. stephen flynn _ much later on. yes, the 19th. stephen flynn said _ much later on. yes, the 19th. stephen flynn said this i much later on. yes, the 19th. i stephen flynn said this morning the smp has not given up on independence. friday night was one of the first times i have seen an snp politician on stage and not mention independence. from looking at the campaign, does it look like they have given up? i at the campaign, does it look like they have given up?— at the campaign, does it look like they have given up? i think what was strikin: they have given up? i think what was striking was — they have given up? i think what was striking was that _ they have given up? i think what was striking was that what _ they have given up? i think what was striking was that what we _ they have given up? i think what was striking was that what we heard i they have given up? i think what was striking was that what we heard from stephen flynn in the debate and in your interview this morning was not really necessary the same as we are hearing from john swinney in news
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conferences and campaign events in terms of independence. john swinney has been mentioning independence quite a lot for ——. they have advanced in these set piece interviews, half of the argument from the smp perspective which is, britain isn't working, they will say it is low growth, low productivity, high inequality and this isn'tjust in their view a conservative problem, labour do not have a credible plan to be able to tackle that and fundamentally sort out the british state. but he didn't get to the next bit which is thatjohn swinney has been getting too which is that therefore, in their view, number one, and mr flynn did say there is a little bit, we need to
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have snp mps at westminster to hold the government's feet to the fire. the other bit is in the longer term for scotland to escape what they regard as a failing state, independence could be the answer. 0ne independence could be the answer. one of the reasons i find it odd that they might not want to talk about independence is because the polling for independence is higher at the moment and the polling for the snp. it is hovering once you exclude don't knows. just under 50%. we can have a debate about what that would look like if people were to vote at the end of a real campaign but that is what the polls suggest right now. snp support has dropped sharply over the last few years for a whole host of reasons. they have beenin a whole host of reasons. they have been in government for a long time and are coming under pressure for their handling of public services and there is a police investigation and there is a police investigation and there is a police investigation and there have been change of
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leadership. i and there have been change of leadership-— and there have been change of leadershi -. ~ . ., leadership. i think we have done whole of the _ leadership. i think we have done whole of the podcast _ leadership. i think we have done whole of the podcast on - leadership. i think we have done whole of the podcast on other. whole of the podcast on other occasions. shall we talk nigel faraj? he has said he would stand after saying he wouldn't stand, it is the only place that has been movement in the polls, reform and the tories. there is tory panic about whether there could be a crossover moment and they have a take. that hasn't happened yet, but could it or could it not? one of the things we wanted to talk about with regard to farage was what he said about rishi sunak missing the d—day commemorations. we have talk about rishi sunak�*s mistake but this morning we discussed what he said about rishi sunak, he said it was a terrible mistake for him to leave. he went on to say that it showed that rishi sunak wasn'tjust not a
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patriot but didn't understand our history and our culture. we wanted to know this morning what did he mean by that and what was he trying to get at? he mean by that and what was he trying to net at? , ., . ,, ., to get at? he should have known in his heart that _ to get at? he should have known in his heart that it _ to get at? he should have known in his heart that it was _ to get at? he should have known in his heart that it was right _ to get at? he should have known in his heart that it was right to - to get at? he should have known in his heart that it was right to be i his heart that it was right to be there — his heart that it was right to be there i— his heart that it was right to be there i was _ his heart that it was right to be there. i was there, _ his heart that it was right to be there. iwas there, i— his heart that it was right to be there. i was there, i have i his heart that it was right to bej there. iwas there, i have been raising — there. iwas there, i have been raising money— there. iwas there, i have been raising money there _ there. iwas there, i have been raising money there to - there. iwas there, i have been raising money there to send i there. iwas there, i have been- raising money there to send money to send veterans — raising money there to send money to send veterans back. _ raising money there to send money to send veterans back. the _ raising money there to send money to send veterans back. the last - send veterans back. the last opportunity— send veterans back. the last opportunity to— send veterans back. the last opportunity to honour - send veterans back. the last opportunity to honour those | send veterans back. the last i opportunity to honour those who send veterans back. the last - opportunity to honour those who are still alive _ opportunity to honour those who are still alive i— opportunity to honour those who are still alive. i know— opportunity to honour those who are still alive. i know where _ opportunity to honour those who are still alive. i know where your - still alive. i know where your question— still alive. i know where your question is— still alive. i know where your question is leading _ still alive. i know where your question is leading at, i still alive. i know where your question is leading at, 40%i still alive. i know where yourl question is leading at, 40% in still alive. i know where your i question is leading at, 40% in our contribution — question is leading at, 40% in our contribution in _ question is leading at, 40% in our contribution in world _ question is leading at, 40% in our contribution in world war - question is leading at, 40% in our contribution in world war i - question is leading at, 40% in our contribution in world war i and i contribution in world war i and world — contribution in world war i and world war— contribution in world war i and world war ii _ contribution in world war i and world war ii came _ contribution in world war i and world war ii came from - contribution in world war i and world war ii came from the i world war ii came from the commonwealth. _ world war ii came from the commonwealth. he - world war ii came from the commonwealth. he is i world war ii came from the i commonwealth. he is utterly disconnected, _ commonwealth. he is utterly disconnected, by— commonwealth. he is utterly disconnected, by class, i commonwealth. he is utterly disconnected, by class, by. disconnected, by class, by privilege. _ disconnected, by class, by privilege, from _ disconnected, by class, by privilege, from how- disconnected, by class, by. privilege, from how ordinary disconnected, by class, by- privilege, from how ordinary people feel. privilege, from how ordinary people feet he _ privilege, from how ordinary people feel. he revealed _ privilege, from how ordinary people feel. he revealed that— privilege, from how ordinary people feel. he revealed that spectacularlyi feel. he revealed that spectacularly when he _ feel. he revealed that spectacularly when he left — feel. he revealed that spectacularly when he left normandy— feel. he revealed that spectacularly when he left normandy early. - feel. he revealed that spectacularly when he left normandy early. labour told us that she _ when he left normandy early. labour told us that she thought _ when he left normandy early. labour told us that she thought the - told us that she thought the comments were dog whistle that they were trying to stir up racist,
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anti—immigrant feeling. fin were trying to stir up racist, anti-immigrant feeling. on the basis ofthe anti-immigrant feeling. on the basis of the prime — anti-immigrant feeling. on the basis of the prime minister's _ anti-immigrant feeling. on the basis of the prime minister's ethnic - of the prime minister's ethnic background. of the prime minister's ethnic background-— of the prime minister's ethnic backuround. ~ . , ,. , background. what she described it as was a classic — background. what she described it as was a classic nigel— background. what she described it as was a classic nigel farage _ background. what she described it as was a classic nigel farage moment . was a classic nigel farage moment where he dangles something and then steps back. mel stride is a close ally of rishi sunak and said he found it deeply uncomfortable. he didn't want to go full blast at farage, but i think this may well, not these specific comments, but i think as the reform campaign proceeds, there is likely to be more scrutiny and more pressure on this kind of moment. he is claiming to newspapers that he wants to be the real opposition. he is trying to blitz rate the tory party and then find a role for himself in national politics in parliament rather than someone who is famous but on the sidelines. i wonder whether this is going to attract, their positions
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will start to attract more attention as they are serious players in this election as of today. even though you are slightly late it was lovely to spend some of sunday morning with you. back tomorrow with adam and chris and i'm sure with some more members of the gang. you will be back during the week. i will be here on thursday and saturday and sunday, but who knows what the next week will bring. let's bring this to a close. let's —— thanks for listening.
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temperature is a bit more disappointing because we have 12 to 17 degrees. as we head through this evening and overnight the rain peps up evening and overnight the rain peps up as some heavy bursts across northern and eastern england. because there is more cloud and rain around we're looking at nine to ii around we're looking at nine to 11 degrees across the south by a chilly one to come across scotland and northern ireland as sky is clear we pick northern winds. so it's a chilly but bright start. scotland, northern ireland, western england and wales.
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we start off with the wet weather across eastern england which will take its time to clear through the course of the day. quite breezy as well. close to the north sea coast, most of the afternoon will be one of sunshine and showers. most of the showers, northern and eastern areas tend to stay dry the further west that you are. but again, it's going to feel cool for the time of year ten to around 17, maybe 18 degrees in the south west, given some sunshine for tuesday. then we've still got chilly northerly winds. but this area of high pressure in the west wants to topple in and that should settle things down. there'll still be a few showers across northern and eastern areas, perhaps into the midlands through the afternoon. but we start off bright with some sunshine before the clouds do build up. so a bit of a cloudier afternoon with a few showers dotted around and again, cool for the time of year, 10 to 17 degrees, wednesday looks mostly fine as that ridge of high pressure moves across the country thursday, friday and into the weekend, low pressure takes over again, so no signs of any hot, dry, sunny weather on the way. it's going to stay cool, though. temperatures recovering a little bit by the end of the week as we pick up south—westerly winds. but generally it's
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going to stay unsettled. live from london, this is bbc news. the family of tv and radio presenter michael mosley confirms his body has been found on the greek island of symi. the hamas—run health ministry in gaza says nearly 300 palestinians were killed during a military operation to rescue four hostages from a refugee camp in central gaza. the eu's top diplomat has strongly condemned the killings. meanwhile, reuters is reporting hamas's armed wing narendra modi is sworn in as india's prime minister for a record—equalling third term — this time, though, he won't have an outright majority. these are live pictures now from the ceremony going on in delhi.
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and, election campaigning continues — cabinet minister mel stride insists rishi sunak "apologised unequivocally" for leaving d—day events early, and the labour party pledges to build more prisons. leaders cast their votes, as millions go to the polls in the european parliament elections. the wife of michael mosley has confirmed her husband has been found dead on the greek island of symi, saying in a statement the news was "devastating". the 67—year—old was last seen early on wednesday afternoon, when he went for a walk alone in a remote mountainous area. a little earlier we had a statement from michael mosley�*s wife, clare.
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