joining me on my panel tonight is us democratic strategist hilary rosen and justine greening, a former conservative mp and secretary of state for education. first, the latest headlines — following on from his meeting with president biden, prime minister keir starmer has met with other world leaders on the sidelines of the 75th anniversary nato meeting. he chatted with canadian counterpart justin trudeau as well germany's olaf scholz and ukraine's volodymyr zelensky. one man has died after 78 coal miners became trapped more than a kilometre underground in poland following an earth tremor.

77 miners have been brought to the surface, with 76 surviving. the risk of methane gas explosions are complicating the search and rescue of one further person. the mine in upper silesia is one of the oldest in poland. the kenyan president, william ruto, has sacked almost his entire cabinet. the dismissals follow the withdrawal of planned tax increases that caused protests across kenya last month. in a televised address, mr ruto said he wanted to make his government more efficient. a pot of nearly 80 pilot wales has died after washing ashore on a beach in 0rkney northeast of scotland. 12 of the wales were still alive when rescuers arrived, but the decision was made to euthanize them after attempts to re—them fail. it's the largest mass stranding in 0rkney in decades.

we start the programme in washington and the nato summit continues of course. expecting to hearfrom us presidentjoe biden in a few hours from now. it is being seen as a big test of his performance on the world stage given everything that's happened to him over the last couple of weeks. a busy day at the summit itself with ukraine still very much the focus of discussions. the us president met with ukrainian president volodymr zelensky. nato leaders also gathered for the nato—ukraine council. they reaffirmed their support for the country in its war against russia. we'll have more on the specifics of that in a few minutes. all eyes really onjoe biden. growing calls for the us president to step aside from the presidential campaign. 0vernight, we saw the first democratic sentor break ranks, peter welsh from vermont. he wrote in the wall streetjournal the president should withdraw "for the good of the country".

we will hear it from the uk prime minister shortly. we'll hearfrom uk prime minister sir keir starmer on his meeting withjoe biden shortly, but the gist was that he found the president on good form. it's a sentiment echoed by the finnish president. take a listen. i have absolutely no concerns about the capacity of the current president of the united states to lead his country and to lead our fight for ukraine and to lead nato. and i think this summit speaks tonnes and volumes for that. but outside of politics, more big names ar calling for a change of candidate. earlier this week, we heard from actor george clooney. today, another hollywood star, michael douglas, has voiced his concerns in an interview with the bbc�*s tom brook. it's a painful, painful- decision because i admire it's a painful, painful decision because i admire the man tremendously. i personally had a fundraiser for him at our house in april, and i think he's done an incredible job. but i am worried, not this week or next week, but let's say next year. and it'sjust so hard for me to imagine a man 4.5 years down the line from now, particularly at a time that's so combative,

that requires somebody to really be so articulate. 0ur correspondent helena humphrey is following developments from the summit in washington. hyatt, helena. plenty more questions aboutjoe biden. hyatt, helena. plenty more questions about joe biden.— about joe biden. absolutely, more auestions, about joe biden. absolutely, more questions. and _ about joe biden. absolutely, more questions, and i _ about joe biden. absolutely, more questions, and i think— about joe biden. absolutely, more questions, and i think with - about joe biden. absolutely, more questions, and i think with every l questions, and i think with every hour_ questions, and i think with every hour leading _ questions, and i think with every hour leading up _ questions, and i think with every hour leading up to _ questions, and i think with every hour leading up to that - questions, and i think with every hour leading up to that solo - questions, and i think with everyl hour leading up to that solo press conference. i_ hour leading up to that solo press conference, i think— hour leading up to that solo press conference, i think is _ hour leading up to that solo press conference, i think is fair- hour leading up to that solo press conference, i think is fair to- hour leading up to that solo press conference, i think is fair to say. conference, i think is fair to say that— conference, i think is fair to say that the — conference, i think is fair to say that the pressure _ conference, i think is fair to say that the pressure is _ conference, i think is fair to say that the pressure is building, i conference, i think is fair to say. that the pressure is building, the states— that the pressure is building, the states could _ that the pressure is building, the states could not _ that the pressure is building, the states could not be _ that the pressure is building, the states could not be higher- that the pressure is building, the i states could not be higher because this wiii— states could not be higher because this will be — states could not be higher because this will be the _ states could not be higher because this will be the first _ states could not be higher because this will be the first moment - states could not be higher because this will be the first moment sincel this will be the first moment since that debate — this will be the first moment since that debate over— this will be the first moment since that debate over two _ this will be the first moment since that debate over two weeks - this will be the first moment since that debate over two weeks ago . this will be the first moment sincel that debate over two weeks ago we will have _ that debate over two weeks ago we will have the — that debate over two weeks ago we will have the opportunity— that debate over two weeks ago we | will have the opportunity once again to see _ will have the opportunity once again to see president _ will have the opportunity once again to see presidentjoe _ will have the opportunity once again to see presidentjoe biden- will have the opportunity once again to see presidentjoe biden in- to see presidentjoe biden in unscripted, _ to see presidentjoe biden in unscripted, off—the—cuff, - to see presidentjoe biden in. unscripted, off—the—cuff, back to see presidentjoe biden in- unscripted, off—the—cuff, back and forth, _ unscripted, off—the—cuff, back and forth, this— unscripted, off—the—cuff, back and forth, this time _ unscripted, off—the—cuff, back and forth, this time with _ unscripted, off—the—cuff, back and forth, this time with the _ unscripted, off—the—cuff, back and forth, this time with the world's i forth, this time with the world's press _ forth, this time with the world's press the — forth, this time with the world's press. the eyes— forth, this time with the world's press. the eyes of— forth, this time with the world's press. the eyes of the - forth, this time with the world's press. the eyes of the world - press. the eyes of the world watching _ press. the eyes of the world watching him _ press. the eyes of the world watching him as _ press. the eyes of the world watching him as well, - press. the eyes of the world i watching him as well, coming press. the eyes of the world - watching him as well, coming at a time _ watching him as well, coming at a time when — watching him as well, coming at a time when we've _ watching him as well, coming at a time when we've had _ watching him as well, coming at a time when we've had those - watching him as well, coming at a i time when we've had those growing calls from _ time when we've had those growing calls from within _ time when we've had those growing calls from within his _ time when we've had those growing calls from within his own _ time when we've had those growing calls from within his own party - time when we've had those growing calls from within his own party to i

calls from within his own party to step out— calls from within his own party to step out of— calls from within his own party to step out of the _ calls from within his own party to step out of the race, _ calls from within his own party to step out of the race, including i calls from within his own party to i step out of the race, including from the democratic— step out of the race, including from the democratic senator— step out of the race, including from the democratic senator of - step out of the race, including fromi the democratic senator of vermont, peter— the democratic senator of vermont, peter weich, — the democratic senator of vermont, peter welch, saying _ the democratic senator of vermont, peter welch, saying that _ the democratic senator of vermont, peter welch, saying that people - the democratic senator of vermont, peter welch, saying that people are| peter welch, saying that people are unable _ peter welch, saying that people are unable to _ peter welch, saying that people are unable to unseat _ peter welch, saying that people are unable to unseat what _ peter welch, saying that people are unable to unseat what they - peter welch, saying that people are unable to unseat what they saw - peter welch, saying that people are unable to unseat what they saw on i unable to unseat what they saw on that debate — unable to unseat what they saw on that debate stage _ unable to unseat what they saw on that debate stage when _ unable to unseat what they saw on that debate stage when he - unable to unseat what they saw on that debate stage when he went i that debate stage when he went head-to-head _ that debate stage when he went head—to—head with _ that debate stage when he went head—to—head with former- that debate stage when he went - head—to—head with former president donaid _ head—to—head with former president donaid trumo — head—to—head with former president donaid trumo so— head—to—head with former president donald trump. so certainly- head—to—head with former president donald trump. so certainly i- head—to—head with former president donald trump. so certainly i think. donald trump. so certainly i think it's fair— donald trump. so certainly i think it's fair to — donald trump. so certainly i think it's fair to say _ donald trump. so certainly i think it's fair to say there _ donald trump. so certainly i think it's fair to say there is _ donald trump. so certainly i think it's fair to say there is no - donald trump. so certainly i think it's fair to say there is no margin i it's fair to say there is no margin for error— it's fair to say there is no margin for error here, _ it's fair to say there is no margin for error here, and _ it's fair to say there is no margin for error here, and i— it's fair to say there is no margin for error here, and i think- it's fair to say there is no margin for error here, and i think it- it's fair to say there is no margin for error here, and i think it willl for error here, and i think it will be interesting _ for error here, and i think it will be interesting to _ for error here, and i think it will be interesting to see _ for error here, and i think it will. be interesting to see what happens after that _ be interesting to see what happens after that press _ be interesting to see what happens after that press conference, - be interesting to see what happens after that press conference, also i after that press conference, also after _ after that press conference, also after this— after that press conference, also after this nato _ after that press conference, also after this nato summit _ after that press conference, also after this nato summit as - after that press conference, also after this nato summit as well. i after that press conference, also i after this nato summit as well. will that perhaps — after this nato summit as well. will that perhaps be _ after this nato summit as well. will that perhaps be the _ after this nato summit as well. will that perhaps be the moment- that perhaps be the moment when potentially — that perhaps be the moment when potentially more _ that perhaps be the moment when potentially more democrats - that perhaps be the moment when potentially more democrats come | potentially more democrats come forward _ potentially more democrats come forward and — potentially more democrats come forward and say _ potentially more democrats come forward and say that _ potentially more democrats come forward and say that we _ potentially more democrats come forward and say that we would - potentially more democrats come i forward and say that we would also now like _ forward and say that we would also now like to — forward and say that we would also now like to see _ forward and say that we would also now like to see a _ forward and say that we would also now like to see a change _ forward and say that we would also now like to see a change in- now like to see a change in candidate, _ now like to see a change in candidate, perhaps - now like to see a change in candidate, perhaps some l now like to see a change in. candidate, perhaps some kind now like to see a change in- candidate, perhaps some kind of respect, — candidate, perhaps some kind of respect, decorum _ candidate, perhaps some kind of respect, decorum preventing - candidate, perhaps some kind of. respect, decorum preventing them from doing — respect, decorum preventing them from doing so— respect, decorum preventing them from doing so at— respect, decorum preventing them from doing so at the _ respect, decorum preventing them from doing so at the moment - respect, decorum preventing them from doing so at the moment with| respect, decorum preventing them i from doing so at the moment with the eyes of— from doing so at the moment with the eyes of the _ from doing so at the moment with the eyes of the world _ from doing so at the moment with the eyes of the world on the _ from doing so at the moment with the eyes of the world on the nato - eyes of the world on the nato summit _ eyes of the world on the nato summit~ and _ eyes of the world on the nato summit. and then _ eyes of the world on the nato summit. and then something| eyes of the world on the nato - summit. and then something else to watch, _ summit. and then something else to watch, always — summit. and then something else to watch, always to _ summit. and then something else to watch, always to watch _ summit. and then something else to watch, always to watch in _ summit. and then something else to watch, always to watch in us - watch, always to watch in us politics — watch, always to watch in us politics really, _ watch, always to watch in us politics really, the _ watch, always to watch in us politics really, the direction. watch, always to watch in us . politics really, the direction the money— politics really, the direction the money goes. _ politics really, the direction the money goes. the _ politics really, the direction the money goes, the donors. - politics really, the direction the money goes, the donors. we . money goes, the donors. we potentially— money goes, the donors. we potentially see _ money goes, the donors. we potentially see some - money goes, the donors. wei potentially see some donors, donations. _ potentially see some donors, donations, campaign- potentially see some donors, i donations, campaign financing potentially see some donors, - 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press spokesperson, and i- admiraljohn kirby, white house press spokesperson, and i was l admiraljohn kirby, white house - press spokesperson, and i was asking him after— press spokesperson, and i was asking him after this — press spokesperson, and i was asking him after this press— press spokesperson, and i was asking him after this press conference - press spokesperson, and i was asking him after this press conference if- him after this press conference if there _ him after this press conference if there are — him after this press conference if there are more _ him after this press conference if there are more calls— him after this press conference if there are more calls for- him after this press conference if| there are more calls for president biden— there are more calls for president biden to — there are more calls for president biden to leave _ there are more calls for president biden to leave the _ there are more calls for president biden to leave the race, - there are more calls for president biden to leave the race, will- there are more calls for president biden to leave the race, will he i there are more calls for presidentl biden to leave the race, will he be was meticulous _ biden to leave the race, will he be was meticulous and _ biden to leave the race, will he be was meticulous and do _ biden to leave the race, will he be was meticulous and do what - biden to leave the race, will he be was meticulous and do what he i was meticulous and do what he told me. , , ., , , , , me. the president has been very very clear, he's running _ me. the president has been very very clear, he's running for— me. the president has been very very clear, he's running for reelection. - clear, he's running for reelection. and he believes that he can win that election. i'm limited as to what i can say because i work of the national security council and the president has made his decision. he's moving forward, and it's apparent to him and all of us at the nato summit how much american leadership on the world stage matters and how much it is appreciated, particularly over these last 3.5 years. nato's to country stronger now, and ukraine has been able to push back russian aggression. there has been a lot of good on the national security front that has occurred, perilous time. the president calls it an inflection point. he wants to make sure that he is still leading america going forward. ., , ., is still leading america going forward. ., ., forward. now if you can hear there, admiraljohn _ forward. now if you can hear there,

admiraljohn kirby _ forward. now if you can hear there, admiraljohn kirby making - forward. now if you can hear there, admiraljohn kirby making the - forward. now if you can hear there, admiraljohn kirby making the case i admiraljohn kirby making the case about— admiraljohn kirby making the case about the _ admiraljohn kirby making the case about the projection _ admiraljohn kirby making the case about the projection of _ admiraljohn kirby making the case about the projection of strength - admiraljohn kirby making the case about the projection of strength ofl about the projection of strength of nato, _ about the projection of strength of nato, the — about the projection of strength of nato, the support— about the projection of strength of nato, the support they _ about the projection of strength of nato, the support they are - about the projection of strength of nato, the support they are given i about the projection of strength ofl nato, the support they are given to ukraine _ nato, the support they are given to ukraine the — nato, the support they are given to ukraine. the us— nato, the support they are given to ukraine. the us really— nato, the support they are given to ukraine. the us really projecting. ukraine. the us really projecting power— ukraine. the us really projecting power here — ukraine. the us really projecting power here at _ ukraine. the us really projecting power here at this _ ukraine. the us really projecting power here at this nato - ukraine. the us really projecting power here at this nato summit, j ukraine. the us really projecting - power here at this nato summit, but of course _ power here at this nato summit, but of course i_ power here at this nato summit, but of course i think— power here at this nato summit, but of course i think it's _ power here at this nato summit, but of course i think it's fair— power here at this nato summit, but of course i think it's fair to _ of course i think it's fair to say that— of course i think it's fair to say that the — of course i think it's fair to say that the image _ of course i think it's fair to say that the image of _ of course i think it's fair to say that the image of the - of course i think it's fair to say. that the image of the president, of course i think it's fair to say- that the image of the president, at least in _ that the image of the president, at least in terms _ that the image of the president, at least in terms of _ that the image of the president, at least in terms of strength, - that the image of the president, at least in terms of strength, age, i least in terms of strength, age, fitness. — least in terms of strength, age, fitness. is — least in terms of strength, age, fitness. is a _ least in terms of strength, age, fitness, is a somewhat - least in terms of strength, age, . fitness, is a somewhat diminished least in terms of strength, age, - fitness, is a somewhat diminished in front of— fitness, is a somewhat diminished in front of his _ fitness, is a somewhat diminished in front of his detractors. _ fitness, is a somewhat diminished in front of his detractors. nothing - front of his detractors. nothing that he — front of his detractors. nothing that he has— front of his detractors. nothing that he has been— front of his detractors. nothing that he has been able - front of his detractors. nothing that he has been able to - front of his detractors. nothing that he has been able to do - front of his detractors. nothing that he has been able to do so| front of his detractors. nothing - that he has been able to do so far, whether— that he has been able to do so far, whether it — that he has been able to do so far, whether it is — that he has been able to do so far, whether it is strong speeches - that he has been able to do so far, | whether it is strong speeches aided by the _ whether it is strong speeches aided by the use — whether it is strong speeches aided by the use of— whether it is strong speeches aided by the use of a _ whether it is strong speeches aided by the use of a teleprompter, - whether it is strong speeches aided by the use of a teleprompter, have managed _ by the use of a teleprompter, have managed to— by the use of a teleprompter, have managed to really— by the use of a teleprompter, have managed to really to _ by the use of a teleprompter, have managed to really to restore - by the use of a teleprompter, have managed to really to restore that l managed to really to restore that image _ managed to really to restore that image or— managed to really to restore that image or that— managed to really to restore that image or that confidence. - managed to really to restore that image or that confidence. a- managed to really to restore that image or that confidence. a newl managed to really to restore that. image or that confidence. a new poll out today— image or that confidence. a new poll out today saying _ image or that confidence. a new poll out today saying that _ image or that confidence. a new poll out today saying that around - image or that confidence. a new poll out today saying that around 56% - image or that confidence. a new poll out today saying that around 56% ofl out today saying that around 56% of democrat _ out today saying that around 56% of democrat supporters _ out today saying that around 56% of democrat supporters would - out today saying that around 56% of democrat supporters would refer. out today saying that around 56% of. democrat supporters would refer him to step _ democrat supporters would refer him to step out _ democrat supporters would refer him to step out of — democrat supporters would refer him to step out of the _ democrat supporters would refer him to step out of the race, _ democrat supporters would refer him to step out of the race, although - to step out of the race, although when _ to step out of the race, although when it— to step out of the race, although when it comes _ to step out of the race, although when it comes to _ to step out of the race, although when it comes to a _ to step out of the race, althoughl when it comes to a head—to—head matchup— when it comes to a head—to—head matchup with _ when it comes to a head—to—head matchup with donald _ when it comes to a head—to—head matchup with donald trump, - when it comes to a head—to—head matchup with donald trump, thatj when it comes to a head—to—head - matchup with donald trump, that they are on— matchup with donald trump, that they are on par— matchup with donald trump, that they are on parwith— matchup with donald trump, that they are on par with each— matchup with donald trump, that they are on par with each other, _ matchup with donald trump, that they are on par with each other, 46%- are on par with each other, 46% — 46%_ are on par with each other, 46% — 46% tie _ are on par with each other, 46% — 46% tie up — are on par with each other, 4696 - 4696 tie op— 4696 tie up. helena, thank you so much for that. _ 4696 tie up. helena, thank you so much for that. right, _ 4696 tie up. helena, thank you so much for that. right, let's - 4696 tie up. helena, thank you so much for that. right, let's dig - 4696 tie up. helena, thank you so | much for that. right, let's dig into this with our panel. hilary rosen,

democratic party strategist, justine greening, former conservative party mp. hello to you both. where do you thinkjoe biden stands right now? well, we can see from what's happened over the last 24 hours with nato leaders in washington, joe biden— nato leaders in washington, joe biden is— nato leaders in washington, joe biden is actually quite a good president. he has been a good president— president. he has been a good president for the last several years. — president for the last several years, and people in the democratic party— years, and people in the democratic party support him as president. i think— party support him as president. i think the — party support him as president. i think the problem is that people don't _ think the problem is that people don't support him being reelected because _ don't support him being reelected because they think that his time is come _ because they think that his time is come and — because they think that his time is come and he should move on and be the bridge _ come and he should move on and be the bridge to the next generation. he said _ the bridge to the next generation. he said he — the bridge to the next generation. he said he was going to be that. he is resisting — he said he was going to be that. he is resisting that and i think this is resisting that and i think this is not _ is resisting that and i think this is not over— is resisting that and i think this is not over yet. i think every move that he _ is not over yet. i think every move that he makes over the next several months. _ that he makes over the next several months, every attempt he makes to try and _ months, every attempt he makes to try and put— months, every attempt he makes to try and put this away will be unsuccessful. i don't think people are going — unsuccessful. i don't think people are going to let go of this. you know. — are going to let go of this. you know. if— are going to let go of this. you know, if not a good way to run a political — know, if not a good way to run a political campaign if everybody is looking _ political campaign if everybody is

looking for that gotcha moment. and because _ looking for that gotcha moment. and because of— looking for that gotcha moment. and because of that, i think the president is going to struggle over the next _ president is going to struggle over the next few days bringing this democratic coalition together. well, if ou think democratic coalition together. well, if you think it's _ democratic coalition together. well, if you think it's not _ democratic coalition together. well, if you think it's not going _ democratic coalition together. in if you think it's not going away and he is going to struggle, do you think he is going to step aside or should step aside? i’ge think he is going to step aside or should step aside?— should step aside? i've said ublicl should step aside? i've said publicly that _ should step aside? i've said publicly that i _ should step aside? i've said publicly that i think - should step aside? i've said publicly that i think you - should step aside? i've said i publicly that i think you should step aside. i think kamala harris, our vice _ step aside. i think kamala harris, our vice president come it would be a good _ our vice president come it would be a good candidate against donald trump _ a good candidate against donald trump and i think she would beat donald _ trump and i think she would beat donald trump also the problem is joe biden— donald trump also the problem is joe biden is— donald trump also the problem is joe biden is not— donald trump also the problem is joe biden is not a very good campaigner i’ilht biden is not a very good campaigner right now _ biden is not a very good campaigner right now. he does not have the big to do— right now. he does not have the big to do it. _ right now. he does not have the big to do it. not — right now. he does not have the big to do it, not the stamina to do it. i'd to do it, not the stamina to do it. i'd rather see _ to do it, not the stamina to do it. i'd rather see him be a good president— i'd rather see him be a good president for the next couple of months — president for the next couple of months and let kamala harris beat donald _ months and let kamala harris beat donald trump. months and let kamala harris beat donald trump-— donald trump. hilary fascinating. justine, donald trump. hilary fascinating. justine. let's _ donald trump. hilary fascinating. justine, let's get _ donald trump. hilary fascinating. justine, let's get your _ donald trump. hilary fascinating. l justine, let's get your perspective. do you thinkjoe biden will subside or should? do you thinkjoe biden will subside orshould? i do you thinkjoe biden will subside or should? ~' , , ., or should? i think the presidential debate was _ or should? i think the presidential debate was a _ or should? i think the presidential debate was a real— or should? i think the presidential debate was a real game _ or should? i think the presidential. debate was a real game changer, and almost irrespective of the fact that he still remains a formidable politician who has had a good run in

the white house, itjust feels to me that any time he does an interview from now on, people will be looking at whether this is an interview that will be the samejoe biden that we saw in that debate. and it's not just about getting through the presidential campaign, it's about getting through the next term that he may serve in the white house. it just feels to me like the writing is on the wall, and at some stage it's about how to do that shift to a more compelling candidate. and it's so tight we look at the polls. you know, the polls did dip for the democrats after that debate. it feels to me when it's that tight, you cannot afford anything that is going to be dragging down people's votes and creating uncertainty in the minds of voters. and for sure donald trump and the republicans will really hammer home the concerns that voters have got over the coming weeks and months.—

weeks and months. justine, and hilla as weeks and months. justine, and hillary as well. _ weeks and months. justine, and hillary as well, i _ weeks and months. justine, and hillary as well, i should - weeks and months. justine, and | hillary as well, i should underline thatjoe biden has been heavily committed to saying that he will run it we just heard from john kirby as well saying the same thing, butjust since we've been chatting, reuters news agency reporting via abc news that hawaii democrat congressman ed case calls for biden to withdraw from the race since i been on air forjust the last hour, we have heard from hilary shelton, brad snyder. so it does feel that momentum is still continuing, but just briefly, and hilary first, is there any way, is there anything thatjoe biden could do to really draw a line under this? is there any positive hypothesis you can come up with? i positive hypothesis you can come up with? ~ positive hypothesis you can come up with? ,, �* , , positive hypothesis you can come up with? ~' �* , , , . positive hypothesis you can come up with? ~' �*, , '. ., with? i think it's very difficult at this point. _ with? i think it's very difficult at this point, right _ with? i think it's very difficult at this point, right after _ with? i think it's very difficult at this point, right after the - with? i think it's very difficult at | this point, right after the debate. it's this point, right after the debate. it's been — this point, right after the debate. it's been two weeks since it's a bait and — it's been two weeks since it's a bait and people were very public about _ bait and people were very public about the — bait and people were very public about the things that they wanted to see the _ about the things that they wanted to see the president do. they wanted to see the president do. they wanted to see him _ see the president do. they wanted to see him do— see the president do. they wanted to see him do more on stupid moments, more _

see him do more on stupid moments, more town— see him do more on stupid moments, more town halls, more engagement with members of congress was up he is not _ with members of congress was up he is not even _ with members of congress was up he is not even been up to capitol hill to meet— is not even been up to capitol hill to meet with members of congress since _ to meet with members of congress since this— to meet with members of congress since this all has taken place. so there _ since this all has taken place. so there is— since this all has taken place. so there is much of what could have been _ there is much of what could have been done — there is much of what could have been done and should have been done, it was not— been done and should have been done, it was not done and there is a reason for— it was not done and there is a reason for that. and i think it's because — reason for that. and i think it's because he _ reason for that. and i think it's because he is affected by his family and his— because he is affected by his family and his senior advisers who are being _ and his senior advisers who are being very— and his senior advisers who are being very cautious now, knowing that everything he does is being watched — that everything he does is being watched. but all you have to do is listen _ watched. but all you have to do is listen to _ watched. but all you have to do is listen to the interview of prime minister— listen to the interview of prime minister sir keir starmer and other nato leaders over the last day, they're — nato leaders over the last day, they're just being hounded by the media _ they're just being hounded by the media about what they see as joe biden's_ media about what they see as joe biden's abilities. they're coming up and saying. — biden's abilities. they're coming up and saying, look, he was fine on these _ and saying, look, he was fine on these meetings, he's been a good leader— these meetings, he's been a good leader and — these meetings, he's been a good leader and nato is in good hands with the — leader and nato is in good hands with the us president, but this is not going — with the us president, but this is not going away. and i think that's the key— not going away. and i think that's the key point. not going away. and i think that's the key point-— not going away. and i think that's the key point. hilary, you probably brou:ht u- the key point. hilary, you probably brought up but _ the key point. hilary, you probably brought up but we _ the key point. hilary, you probably brought up but we were _ the key point. hilary, you probably brought up but we were going - the key point. hilary, you probably brought up but we were going to i the key point. hilary, you probably. brought up but we were going to have a look at, prime minister sir keir

starmer. so prime minister sir keir starmer has said that president biden was on "really good form" during his first face—to—face talks with us presidentjoe biden. he said they were an opportunity to "recommit" to the special relationship between the uk and the us. he sat down in washington with our political editor chris mason, who has been following the prime minister on his first overseas trip. we went through a huge i number of issues at pace. he was actually on really good form, and there were a number of... - mentally agile? absolutely across all the detail. we were going at pace - through a number of issues, which was really important to me because obviously it _ was my first opportunity - to have a bilateral like that. and he showed incredible leadership. justine, let's bring un on this. it would've been pretty extraordinary, i suppose, for pretty any visiting from minister or president say anything other than good things about your host.— anything other than good things about your host. absolutely. but even the fact _ about your host. absolutely. but even the fact that _ about your host. absolutely. but even the fact that the _ about your host. absolutely. but even the fact that the new - about your host. absolutely. but | even the fact that the new british prime minister is being asked about this underlines the challenges, and i think it's just impossible this underlines the challenges, and i think it'sjust impossible in a

sense for biden to avoid, i think, was almost inevitable, which is he is going to have to find a way to graciously hand over to a new candidate. in terms of sir keir starmer in washington for his very first visit to america literally within a week of taking office, a clear opportunity to build a relationship notjust with biden as president, but with this broader circle of the democrats who are running that presidency. and i think usually important at a time when we have the ukraine crisis and some clear decisions being taken in the long term to dig in and support president zelensky.— long term to dig in and support president zelensky. justine came let's continue _ president zelensky. justine came let's continue with _ president zelensky. justine came let's continue with that _ president zelensky. justine came let's continue with that theme i president zelensky. justine came | let's continue with that theme for president zelensky. justine came i let's continue with that theme for a moment and we will have a look at sir keir starmer and mystic politics a little later but on the international stage, what has struck you... clearly totally unfair as first trip it is only been there a day, but what is struck you so far

and what you you interested in looking out for or what you want effectively from your prime minister on the international stage? weill. effectively from your prime minister on the international stage?- on the international stage? well, i think first of _ on the international stage? well, i think first of all _ on the international stage? well, i think first of all it's _ on the international stage? well, i think first of all it's worth - on the international stage? well, i think first of all it's worth a - think first of all it's worth a people watching this that keir starmer adjustment the last week crisscrossing the whole of the uk, meeting the devolved administrations that run northern ireland, wales and scotland, so he's actually been doing a lot of travelling. this latest trip to the us is clearly hugely important notjust in relation to the us government and our special relationship with the united states but also in relation to the many international partners and leaders that he will have a chance to meet for the first time very quickly into his premiership. that nato meetings. so this really matters for britain, and i thought it was interesting that president biden in their one—to—one clearly made this issue of the uk relationship with the eu a clearly strategic one as he set out for the us, and this desire of the us to see a close and functioning relationship

between the uk and europe. in sense this policy agenda for keir starmer is notjust a you like in relation to defence and diplomacy with the us, a crucially important relationship for us but actually i think underlines this about the relationship with europe and our european neighbours right on our doorstep. european neighbours right on our doorste -. , ., ,, doorstep. interesting. right, thank ou both doorstep. interesting. right, thank you both and _ doorstep. interesting. right, thank you both and back— doorstep. interesting. right, thank you both and back with _ doorstep. interesting. right, thank you both and back with our - doorstep. interesting. right, thank you both and back with our panel. doorstep. interesting. right, thankj you both and back with our panel in just a moment. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.

this is bbc news. it was look now at the nato summit wrapping up washington, dc and the ukraine a huge focus of course. what ukraine wants is nato membership. that's not happened at this summit, but signs point to a strengthening of support. some of the strongest language in a joint statment released overnight declaring "ukaine's future is in nato". the 32 countries reaffirmed they'd "continue to support on its irreversible path to full

euro atlantic integration, including nato membership". nato also agreed to launch a new programme to provide a more reliable flow of arms and training to ukraine. and announcements from the us, netherlands and denmark, the first nato—provided f—16 fighter jets would be in the hands of ukrainian military pilots by this summer. thanking the nato members for the aid package, ukrainian president volodomyr zelensky outlined how they plan to use it. this will help us train our soldiers faster and more efficiently equip our brigades and develop our defence forces more effectively. we have clear and financial commitments already in our agreements — as secretary said, $40 billion — and it's crucial to maintain such support. and all this will help curb putin's appetite for aggression.

let's assess how this has all gone with our panel, emily rosen, democratic party strategist, and justine greening, former conservative party mp. and live now to ambassador philip reeker, chair at the wilson center think tank in washington and former assistant secretary of state for europe. thank you very much coming on the programme, ifi thank you very much coming on the programme, if i can start with you, just your topline overall assessment of how the summit has gone? thanks for havin: of how the summit has gone? thanks for having me- _ of how the summit has gone? thanks for having me- i— of how the summit has gone? thanks for having me. i had _ of how the summit has gone? thanks for having me. i had the _ of how the summit has gone? thanks for having me. i had the summit - for having me. i had the summit has gone _ for having me. i had the summit has gone extremely well. it has shown that nato — gone extremely well. it has shown that nato is quite unified something people _ that nato is quite unified something people doubted evenjust some months a-o, people doubted evenjust some months ago. but _ people doubted evenjust some months ago, but certainly a few years ago. under— ago, but certainly a few years ago. under the — ago, but certainly a few years ago. under the biden discretion of course, — under the biden discretion of course, there is been a great focus on alliances — course, there is been a great focus on alliances and partnerships. nato at 75 talking about defence, deterrence, support for ukraine and

indeed _ deterrence, support for ukraine and indeed partnerships to include those indeed partnerships to include those in the _ indeed partnerships to include those in the indo—pacific i think has underscored nato's success over the 75 years _ underscored nato's success over the 75 years and — underscored nato's success over the 75 years and on into the future. gk, 75 years and on into the future. 0k, can i ask 75 years and on into the future. 0k, can i ask you _ 75 years and on into the future. 0k, can i ask you some _ 75 years and on into the future. 0k, can i ask you some of _ 75 years and on into the future. ok can i ask you some of the specifics, i suppose? let's start with ukraine considerately. what do you make of the measures in the language? weill. the measures in the language? well, i think the the measures in the language? well, i think the key _ the measures in the language? well, i think the key word _ the measures in the language? well, i think the key word there _ the measures in the language? well, i think the key word there is - the measures in the language? well, i think the key word there is a reversible _ i think the key word there is a reversible in terms of ukraine's path _ reversible in terms of ukraine's path towards nato membership is what they did _ path towards nato membership is what they did not get membership and they were not— they did not get membership and they were not expecting it at the summit. they knew _ were not expecting it at the summit. they knew that, nato operates by consensus — they knew that, nato operates by consensus in the consensus is not there _ consensus in the consensus is not there but — consensus in the consensus is not there. but where there is consensus is for— there. but where there is consensus is for the _ there. but where there is consensus is for the strong support of ukraine _ is for the strong support of ukraine. you listed all of the things— ukraine. you listed all of the things that are mentioned in the communique, what president zelensky has been _ communique, what president zelensky has been talking about in terms of support— has been talking about in terms of support by— has been talking about in terms of support by nato allies and others of course _ support by nato allies and others of course for— support by nato allies and others of course for ukraine's efforts to defend — course for ukraine's efforts to defend itself against vladimir putin's— defend itself against vladimir putin's continuing onslaught. and i

think— putin's continuing onslaught. and i think that, — putin's continuing onslaught. and i think that, while not giving in the membership of course they would like, membership of course they would like. tells — membership of course they would like, tells him that there is truly this bridge membership that the west does care _ this bridge membership that the west does care about them and it was really— does care about them and it was really a — does care about them and it was really a showing of that with the strong _ really a showing of that with the strong feeling, almost emotional field certainly when i attended the opening _ field certainly when i attended the opening ceremony for this summit of the success— opening ceremony for this summit of the success nato has had coming out of the _ the success nato has had coming out of the post—world war ii era, through— of the post—world war ii era, through the cold war and what was done in _ through the cold war and what was done in the — through the cold war and what was done in the balkans, and now of course _ done in the balkans, and now of course the — done in the balkans, and now of course the deterrent and the strategy. vladimir putin has done more _ strategy. vladimir putin has done more than — strategy. vladimir putin has done more than anyone else probably to remind _ more than anyone else probably to remind not — more than anyone else probably to remind not only its members, the allies— remind not only its members, the allies themselves, but others around the world _ allies themselves, but others around the world of why we need this defensive alliance. i�*m the world of why we need this defensive alliance.— the world of why we need this defensive alliance. i'm going to come back _ defensive alliance. i'm going to come back to _ defensive alliance. i'm going to come back to un _ defensive alliance. i'm going to come back to un a _ defensive alliance. i'm going to come back to un a moment - defensive alliance. i'm going to | come back to un a moment but defensive alliance. i'm going to i come back to un a moment but i defensive alliance. i'm going to - come back to un a moment but i want to bring injustine greening if that's ok. your assessment as the summit wraps up, justine? w that's ok. your assessment as the summit wraps up, justine?- summit wraps up, justine? iv with all of that- — summit wraps up, justine? iv with all of that- l _ summit wraps up, justine? iv with all of that. i think _ summit wraps up, justine? iv with all of that. i think it's _ summit wraps up, justine? iv with all of that. i think it's been - summit wraps up, justine? iv with all of that. i think it's been a - all of that. i think it's been a recommitment_ all of that. i think it's been a recommitment to _ all of that. i think it's been a

recommitment to the - all of that. i think it's been a recommitment to the nato l recommitment to the nato principles, but backed _ recommitment to the nato principles, but backed up— recommitment to the nato principles, but backed up with _ recommitment to the nato principles, but backed up with real— recommitment to the nato principles, but backed up with real practical- but backed up with real practical action~ — but backed up with real practical action it's— but backed up with real practical action. it's good _ but backed up with real practical action. it's good to _ but backed up with real practical action. it's good to finally- but backed up with real practical action. it's good to finally see i action. it's good to finally see those — action. it's good to finally see those f-io _ action. it's good to finally see those f—16jets_ action. it's good to finally see those f—16jets that _ action. it's good to finally see those f—16jets that may- action. it's good to finally see . those f—16jets that may promise action. it's good to finally see - those f—16jets that may promise by the us, _ those f—16jets that may promise by the us, now— those f—16jets that may promise by the us, now in— those f—16jets that may promise by the us, now in a _ those f—16jets that may promise by the us, now in a position— those f—16jets that may promise by the us, now in a position to - those f—16jets that may promise by the us, now in a position to arrive . the us, now in a position to arrive in ukraine — the us, now in a position to arrive in ukraine and— the us, now in a position to arrive in ukraine and the _ the us, now in a position to arrive in ukraine and the training - the us, now in a position to arrive in ukraine and the training of- in ukraine and the training of pilots — in ukraine and the training of pilots has _ in ukraine and the training of pilots has happened. - in ukraine and the training of pilots has happened. i- in ukraine and the training of pilots has happened. i think. in ukraine and the training of. pilots has happened. i think it's also _ pilots has happened. i think it's also worth— pilots has happened. i think it's also worth recognising - pilots has happened. i think it's also worth recognising that - pilots has happened. i think it's also worth recognising that in l pilots has happened. i think it's i also worth recognising that in the margins — also worth recognising that in the margins of— also worth recognising that in the margins of nato, _ also worth recognising that in the margins of nato, there _ also worth recognising that in the margins of nato, there are - margins of nato, there are agreements _ margins of nato, there are agreements portable - margins of nato, there are i agreements portable between margins of nato, there are _ agreements portable between romania, bulgaria _ agreements portable between romania, bulgaria and _ agreements portable between romania, bulgaria and greece _ agreements portable between romania, bulgaria and greece on _ agreements portable between romania, bulgaria and greece on being _ agreements portable between romania, bulgaria and greece on being able - agreements portable between romania, bulgaria and greece on being able to - bulgaria and greece on being able to shift troops — bulgaria and greece on being able to shift troops across _ bulgaria and greece on being able to shift troops across their _ bulgaria and greece on being able to shift troops across their collective i shift troops across their collective borders _ shift troops across their collective borders more _ shift troops across their collective borders more effectively. - shift troops across their collective borders more effectively. so i shift troops across their collective j borders more effectively. so what shift troops across their collective . borders more effectively. so what it shows _ borders more effectively. so what it shows you _ borders more effectively. so what it shows you is — borders more effectively. so what it shows you is that _ borders more effectively. so what it shows you is that whilst _ borders more effectively. so what it shows you is that whilst nato - borders more effectively. so what it shows you is that whilst nato is i shows you is that whilst nato is celebrating _ shows you is that whilst nato is celebrating its _ shows you is that whilst nato is celebrating its 75th _ shows you is that whilst nato is celebrating its 75th anniversaryj shows you is that whilst nato is . celebrating its 75th anniversary in many— celebrating its 75th anniversary in many senses _ celebrating its 75th anniversary in many senses is _ celebrating its 75th anniversary in many senses is having _ celebrating its 75th anniversary in many senses is having to - celebrating its 75th anniversary in| many senses is having to reinvent itself _ many senses is having to reinvent itself and — many senses is having to reinvent itself and doing _ many senses is having to reinvent itself and doing that _ many senses is having to reinvent itself and doing that successfully. | itself and doing that successfully. in itself and doing that successfully. in the _ itself and doing that successfully. in the face — itself and doing that successfully. in the face of— itself and doing that successfully. in the face of what _ itself and doing that successfully. in the face of what is _ itself and doing that successfully. in the face of what is a _ itself and doing that successfully. in the face of what is a very i itself and doing that successfully. in the face of what is a very nearl in the face of what is a very near term, _ in the face of what is a very near term, nearby— in the face of what is a very near term, nearby challenge - in the face of what is a very near term, nearby challenge in - term, nearby challenge in relation to ukraine — term, nearby challenge in relation to ukraine. and _ term, nearby challenge in relation to ukraine. and i— term, nearby challenge in relation to ukraine. and i think— term, nearby challenge in relation to ukraine. and i think finally- term, nearby challenge in relation to ukraine. and i think finally on. to ukraine. and i think finally on zelensky— to ukraine. and i think finally on zelensky meeting _ to ukraine. and i think finally on zelensky meeting up _ to ukraine. and i think finally on zelensky meeting up with - to ukraine. and i think finally on zelensky meeting up with some | to ukraine. and i think finally on. zelensky meeting up with some of those _ zelensky meeting up with some of those asia—pacific— zelensky meeting up with some of those asia—pacific countries - zelensky meeting up with some of those asia—pacific countries like i those asia—pacific countries like japan, _ those asia—pacific countries like japan, south— those asia—pacific countries like japan, south korea, _ those asia—pacific countries like japan, south korea, australia, i think— japan, south korea, australia, i think underlining _ japan, south korea, australia, i think underlining the _ japan, south korea, australia, i think underlining the sense i japan, south korea, australia, i think underlining the sense that nato _ think underlining the sense that nato is — think underlining the sense that nato is growing _ think underlining the sense that nato is growing in _ think underlining the sense that nato is growing in terms - think underlining the sense that nato is growing in terms of- think underlining the sense that nato is growing in terms of the i nato is growing in terms of the partnerships _ nato is growing in terms of the partnerships and _ nato is growing in terms of the partnerships and relationshipsl nato is growing in terms of the i partnerships and relationships it has, _ partnerships and relationships it has. perhaps— partnerships and relationships it has. perhaps in— partnerships and relationships it has, perhaps in response -

partnerships and relationships it has, perhaps in response to- partnerships and relationships it i has, perhaps in response to some of those _ has, perhaps in response to some of those broader— has, perhaps in response to some of those broader geological _ has, perhaps in response to some of those broader geological threats i those broader geological threats that we — those broader geological threats that we now— those broader geological threats that we now face. _ those broader geological threats that we now face.— those broader geological threats that we now face. hilary, can i ask ou that we now face. hilary, can i ask you because _ that we now face. hilary, can i ask you because coming _ that we now face. hilary, can i ask you because coming into - that we now face. hilary, can i ask you because coming into this - that we now face. hilary, can i ask- you because coming into this summit, there were these phrases being used about future proofing nato or donald trump proofing nato depending on your political bent. what do you make of that now is the summit comes to its conclusion?— to its conclusion? well, i think it's worth _ to its conclusion? well, i think it's worth noting, _ to its conclusion? well, i think it's worth noting, you - to its conclusion? well, i think it's worth noting, you know, i to its conclusion? well, i think- it's worth noting, you know, based on what we have just heard that these leaders right now in they don't really represent a cross—section of ideological perspectives, you know, between italy and france and hungary, you've got leaders across the political spectrum who all recognised the value of nato. but i think the so—called elephant in the room, as we say in the us, the unspoken word was trump because people feel like donald trump is not on board with a strong nato alliance, that he is not

on board with continuing to resist vladimir putin's is her to see into ukraine and people are worried about for good reason. because he has been inconsistent at best and hostile at worst about whether or not he will be, if he is elected president, whether he will be an effective backstop for ukraine and for nato. so it is something of concern to these leaders. it was the unspoken word in the room today, and i think that this show of force together is really important. fill that this show of force together is really important.— that this show of force together is really important. fill up chemic and ask ou to really important. fill up chemic and ask you to pick _ really important. fill up chemic and ask you to pick op _ really important. fill up chemic and ask you to pick up on _ really important. fill up chemic and ask you to pick up on exactly that i ask you to pick up on exactly that point? looking ahead to the future of nato and given everything that hilary was just outlining, your thoughts on that? l hilary wasjust outlining, your thoughts on that?— hilary wasjust outlining, your thoughts on that? i was certainly auree thoughts on that? i was certainly agree with _ thoughts on that? i was certainly agree with everything _ thoughts on that? i was certainly agree with everything hilary - thoughts on that? i was certainly agree with everything hilary and | agree with everything hilary and justine _ agree with everything hilary and justine also said. i think the best proofing — justine also said. i think the best proofing of nato for the future is it showing how strong the alliance is, now _ it showing how strong the alliance is, now what unity there is.

remembering that we are now 32 allies. _ remembering that we are now 32 allies, sweden and finland having 'oint allies, sweden and finland having joint since — allies, sweden and finland having joint since vladimir putin's action. it joint since vladimir putin's action. it was _ joint since vladimir putin's action. it was never— joint since vladimir putin's action. it was never spotted before that that they — it was never spotted before that that they would. they were great partners. — that they would. they were great partners, but they and only their governments but their people through referenda _ governments but their people through referenda took that sovereign choice tojoin_ referenda took that sovereign choice tojoin the _ referenda took that sovereign choice to join the alliance because they could _ to join the alliance because they could to — to join the alliance because they could to the threat that vladimir putin— could to the threat that vladimir putin poses and is a reminder of the threats— putin poses and is a reminder of the threats that — putin poses and is a reminder of the threats that we are responsible and were responsible for the creation of nato as— were responsible for the creation of nato as a _ were responsible for the creation of nato as a defensive alliance. so showing — nato as a defensive alliance. so showing its strength, its unity, is coming _ showing its strength, its unity, is coming around to a set of values which _ coming around to a set of values which is — coming around to a set of values which is really what nato is about is important, and i think also the fact that — is important, and i think also the fact that allies are stepping up on the burden sharing question, which of course _ the burden sharing question, which of course was what riled donald trump — of course was what riled donald trump it — of course was what riled donald trump. it had been an issue under many— trump. it had been an issue under many us— trump. it had been an issue under many us administrations for many years— many us administrations for many years that — many us administrations for many years that particularly european countries — years that particularly european countries were not contributing toward — countries were not contributing toward the defence of their own interests — toward the defence of their own interests. you saw after vladimir putin's_ interests. you saw after vladimir

putin's invasion, still a ways to go in germany, — putin's invasion, still a ways to go in germany, vc now 23 out of 32 allies— in germany, vc now 23 out of 32 allies meeting the so—called 2% of gdp spending on defence. gk, allies meeting the so-called 296 of gdp spending on defence.- gdp spending on defence. 0k, we must leave it there — gdp spending on defence. 0k, we must leave it there because _ gdp spending on defence. 0k, we must leave it there because we _ gdp spending on defence. 0k, we must leave it there because we are _ leave it there because we are right up leave it there because we are right up against the end of the programme. ambassador, thank you very much for coming on the programme and thanks to our panel, hilary rosen and justine greening. many more coming out. as a bbc news, bye—bye. hello. over the next few days, you'll be glad of any glimpses of sunshine, because out of it, it's going to feel distinctly chilly for this stage injuly. temperatures this time of year should be roughly in the order of 18—23 degrees — just a few cities across the uk for you, just to show the example. what it will be like, though, is around 14—19 celsius, around 3—6 degrees lower than normal for some of you. and that cooler weather is expanding across much of western europe, the blue colours indicating below average temperatures. and into the start of the weekend, it gets colder for us, but also extends in across much of western europe. the heat, humidity in summer is out

towards the east, but at a price. temperatures in the high 30s, low 40s. in between, though, thursday into friday, we're going to see some severe storms develop across europe, a developing area of low pressure. and it all helps to increase the northerly air flow that we're going to experience into friday. it's that which is bringing the cooler air in place. through the night, lots of cloud, outbreaks of rain and drizzle, england and wales especially. some clearer skies, scotland, northern ireland, though — temperatures here could drop into mid—single figures for friday morning. here, though, some of the brightest weather to come on friday, a lot of cloud for england and wales. there will be some brighter breaks here and there. some of you will see sunshine. outbreaks of rain and drizzle, though, pushing their way southwards. maybe the odd thunderstorm in the south—west and south wales later, but really grey conditions and breezy conditions later on across eastern counties of england, the wind picking up. lightest of the winds, though, with the sunshine in south—west scotland is where we'll see the highest of the temperatures — 20 degrees, compared tojust 13 or 14 as a high on the east coast. it really will not feel like summer at all. now, into friday night, the breeze strengthens a bit more

across some of those eastern coasts, further rain or drizzle around at times. but as we go into the weekend, just watching this area of low pressure, which is going to extend a bit of an influence out towards the east of the country. it is only going to give us a glancing blow, but it's going to be enough on saturday as that extends out to scandinavia to bring increased cloud, greater chance of rain at times across those eastern counties of england and parts of scotland and a stronger wind. away from that, to the south and the west on saturday, though, fair bit of cloud at times, some sunshine and one or two showers, although temperatures still lower than average. into sunday, our area of low pressure starts to pull away again, so it's an improving day. lots of cloud to begin with, some patchy drizzle across eastern areas, but overall drier through the afternoon. much more sunshine developing, especially to the south and the west, and it will start to feel a bit warmer.

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