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yorkshire. with the low sun and more showers towards the north—west we also had cracking rainbows as well. still got some showers here as we head that's a hell of a contrast from the guy running on the other side. you don't know what i'm talking about, i guess. you see, we remember here in delhi but it was like when donald trump was our president. we remember when he was president it was more chaos, fewerjobs, and less freedom. you see, philly, i know you all, we walk around with a bit of a chip on our shoulder because we remember, right? and we remember that it was donald trump that ripped away their
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freedom of millions of american women to make decisions over their own body! we remember that! we remember that.— own body! we remember that! we remember that. ,, k , ~ ~ ,, remember that. cheers and applause not auoin remember that. cheers and applause not going back- — chant: not going back!. let's go back for a second _ chant: not going back!. let's go back for a second thought - chant: not going back!. let's go back for a second thought let's . chant: not going back!. let's go l back for a second thought let's just remember, i think there are some folks out there that still have a little bit of brain fog. having a hard time. listen, he brought all that chaos and limited our freedoms back when he was president. let's be honest, didn't know what the hell he was doing. honest, didn't know what the hell he
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was doinu. , , , honest, didn't know what the hell he wasdoinu. , , ,, ., , was doing. cheers. this is serious, canu. was doing. cheers. this is serious, auan. he was doing. cheers. this is serious, gang- he knows— was doing. cheers. this is serious, gang. he knows what _ was doing. cheers. this is serious, gang. he knows what he's - was doing. cheers. this is serious, gang. he knows what he's doing i was doing. cheers. this is serious, i gang. he knows what he's doing now. he does. find gang. he knows what he's doing now. he does. �* ,, , ., ., he does. and the supreme court that he packed- -- — he does. and the supreme court that he packed... booing. _ he does. and the supreme court that he packed... booing. the _ he does. and the supreme court that he packed... booing. the supreme. he packed... booing. the supreme court that he _ he packed... booing. the supreme court that he packed _ he packed... booing. the supreme court that he packed has _ he packed... booing. the supreme court that he packed has ruled - he packed... booing. the supreme court that he packed has ruled that| court that he packed has ruled that he is above the law. he is outside of the law. and now he's got a clear plan, they all wrote it down in that whole project 2025 thing. they've got a clear plan to take away more of our freedoms. they've got a clear plan to use thejustice department to go against our enemies. they've got a clearer plan to isolate is in the world for the money tell you something, i ain't going back! the world for the money tell you something, iain�*t going back! i the world for the money tell you something, i ain't going back! i am not going back! i'm not. and neither
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do you want to go back! we're not going back. do you want to go back! we're not going back-— do you want to go back! we're not auoin back. �* ., ., . ~ going back. chant: not going back! we're not going _ going back. chant: not going back! we're not going back. _ going back. chant: not going back! we're not going back. no. - going back. chant: not going back! | we're not going back. no. we're not. and not only are we not going back, we're not going into the future with donald trump. not going into the future with him. a guy who has made clear, he's told us what he wants to do, more chaos and less freedom. it was my angelo who said it, when they tell you who they are... was my angelo who said it, when they tell you who they are. . ._ tell you who they are... believe them. tell you who they are... believe them- until— tell you who they are... believe them. untilthey _ tell you who they are... believe them. until they get _ tell you who they are... believe l them. until they get government tell you who they are... believe - them. until they get government josh them. until they get governmentjosh shapiro addressing temple university where we're awaiting the firstjoint appearance from the vice president kamala harris. of course a nominee
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for the democratic party to be present and her new vp pick, the governor of minnesota tim walz. stephanie murphy of the democratic party is here. just listening to the governor. he was in the final two if we go by the reporting in terms of becoming the vp pick himself, his very expected speaker there. we can see him rallying up the crowd. what do you think gave governor walz the edge of a governor shapiro? sometimes his personal comfort level with people. it's hard to know what was inside the minds of the current vice president as she made this pic. what i'm excited about is that shapiro will be out there campaigning on behalf of the harris — walz ticket. just as all of the other democrats will be. he is a very effective communicator. that is
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going to be critically important. because this election cycle is very compressed. i think there is some benefit for both harris and walz that the voters don't know a tonne about them. they have an opportunity to define themselves before the republicans had the ability to do so in ways that are negative or misleading. it's great to have these kinds of communicators within the democratic party who are all in behind this ticket. his democratic party who are all in behind this ticket.— democratic party who are all in behind this ticket. his cadence is almost obama _ behind this ticket. his cadence is almost obama at _ behind this ticket. his cadence is almost obama at times. - behind this ticket. his cadence is almost obama at times. it's - almost obama at times. it's interesting to note one of the first points he made was regarding reproductive rights. he said, donald trump ripped away freedom from a millions of american women to make decisions over their own bodies. of course that is something that governor walz codified in minnesota. he has protected that right for women. do you expect we will hear a lot about that on the campaign trail given his own background? i
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certainly think we will. it is an area of stark contrast. it's an issue that matters to lots of americans. notjust women but men as well. in florida we have a referendum around reproductive health that is going to be on the ballot. currently the polling shows that it ballot. currently the polling shows thatitis ballot. currently the polling shows that it is overwhelmingly popular, two thirds of the population of those polled believe that women should have the right to make decisions about their own health care. this is in an area that i think cuts across in surprising ways for people for that everyone always thinks that reproductive rights is a democratic issue but that is not actually true. if you believe in family values, if you believe in the ability for women to have access to health care then you believe in
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having these rights. that cuts across a wide range of voters, not just democratic voters. d0 across a wide range of voters, not just democratic voters.— across a wide range of voters, not just democratic voters. do you think the handling — just democratic voters. do you think the handling of _ just democratic voters. do you think the handling of governor _ just democratic voters. do you think the handling of governor walz - just democratic voters. do you think the handling of governor walz and l the handling of governor walz and black lives matters in the killing of george floyd would be in the minds of voters over the next few months? ., , minds of voters over the next few months? . , , ., months? certainly there will be a lot of talk about _ months? certainly there will be a lot of talk about that _ months? certainly there will be a lot of talk about that situation . months? certainly there will be a | lot of talk about that situation and the way that he handled it. it was a moment for black americans that brought out a lot of passion and energy and anger. i think he handled it as best as he could, given what had happened without the injustice that americans of all backgrounds saw. and i think what you look at his record prior to that event, he
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has been very much pro—law enforcement, promilitary, he's a veteran. he served in the national guard. i think people need to look at him as a candidate on the whole of his career. and notjust in a particular moment in history. looking across his career the trump campaign has already labelled him a dangerously liberal extremists, that's the label their giving to him. what is your view on back? i think that say that about anybody who is running against him. the trump campaign wants to label any democrat as a dangerous extremist. if you actually look at the policies that he has advanced, i don't know what is dangerous about ensuring that every american child has a breakfast at a lunch so that they can focus on their education when
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they are at school. i don't know what is extreme about ensuring that people are treated fairly at work and they are allowed to unionise if that's what they want to do. if you look at the policies that he has implemented that are profamily, pro—working—class americans policies i am not sure that you would assess those things as extremist policies in fact, quite popular policy. this is the reason why he a 2—term because he has met the people of minnesota where they are. and provided them the hand up that they need to continue to try to achieve the american dream. at}! need to continue to try to achieve the american dream.— need to continue to try to achieve the american dream. of course when he was in congress _ the american dream. of course when he was in congress he _ the american dream. of course when he was in congress he won his - the american dream. of course when he was in congress he won his seat l he was in congress he won his seat in a stronghold part of minnesota. do you think is a great strategy here in terms of the decision that
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kamala harris is taken in choosing him? ~ , , kamala harris is taken in choosing him? ~ , �* kamala harris is taken in choosing him? absolutely. i'm somebody who also fli ed him? absolutely. i'm somebody who also flipped a _ him? absolutely. i'm somebody who also flipped a seat _ him? absolutely. i'm somebody who also flipped a seat in _ him? absolutely. i'm somebody who also flipped a seat in the _ him? absolutely. i'm somebody who also flipped a seat in the us - him? absolutely. i'm somebody who also flipped a seat in the us house l also flipped a seat in the us house from a republican seat to a democratic seat. i will tell you that it takes a particular set of political skills in order to be able to do that. it takes the ability to be able to talk to republicans and independents and democrats and ensure that you are winning all of those elements. that's what's going to be need is in this those elements. that�*s what's going to be need is in this harris— those elements. that's what's going to be need is in this harris— walz campaign. they are going to need to be able to consolidate their democratic base, when the independence and then pulljust some republicans. republicans who don't quite recognise their party these days as they listen to trump — vance advancing on the campaign stop. fin advancing on the campaign stop. on that point, what does he bring as you see it specifically to those
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undecided voters? we've been speaking so much about the battleground states and in particular where he is from wisconsin and obviously pennsylvania and michigan as well? he wisconsin and obviously pennsylvania and michigan as well?— and michigan as well? he brings a lot of strength _ and michigan as well? he brings a lot of strength to _ and michigan as well? he brings a lot of strength to this _ and michigan as well? he brings a lot of strength to this blue - and michigan as well? he brings a lot of strength to this blue wall i lot of strength to this blue wall for that this pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin that is necessary. somebody who can go and talk to people on the factory floors and talk to people, farmers and middle america and talk to our military and our veterans in a very genuine and authentic way. that is his life experience. he is comfortable there. i can't forget that we used to do these 6am runs with the army around the monuments in washington. he isjust with the army around the monuments in washington. he is just very comfortable with those soldiers for the backslapping and connecting with them in a way that is genuinely
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authentic. i think that's missing in american politics today, that level of authenticity. i think people are tired of the reality tv show approach to politics. they want somebody who can relate to their personal perspectives. and then trust them to deliver the things to achieve the things are americans and theirfamilies. achieve the things are americans and their families.— their families. we've been talking in recent weeks _ their families. we've been talking in recent weeks about _ their families. we've been talking in recent weeks about the - their families. we've been talking l in recent weeks about the divisions in recent weeks about the divisions in the democratic party that led to joe biden taking that decision not to seek reelection him self for that were looking at these live pictures at temple university, there's a great energy, they are convinced supporters gather there for the significant first rally. for that what has happened to people in the party in terms of the people you're talking to? i party in terms of the people you're talkin: to? ~ , , party in terms of the people you're talkin: to? ~' , , ., talking to? i think the energy is at an all-time _
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talking to? i think the energy is at an all-time high. _ talking to? i think the energy is at an all-time high. i— talking to? i think the energy is at an all-time high. i haven't - talking to? i think the energy is at an all-time high. i haven't seen i an all—time high. i haven't seen democrats energise in a very long time for them and united. people in washington love to talk about democrats in disarray. the fact that aoc and senator manchin both endorse this ticket tells you the party is united this ticket. united in winning. and ensuring that donald trump doesn't have a second term where he can implement elements of project 2025, which seeks to redo american democracy in ways that are incredibly authoritarian. and that hurts working—class families. i think there is a level of unity and excitement that i haven't seen in a really long time. it is all channelled into the next 90 some days just before the election. lintiii
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days 'ust before the election. until the daysjust before the election. until the selection _ daysjust before the election. until the selection governor tim walz wasn't a household name in the us, never mind right around the globe. let's remind ourselves a bit of who he is. tim walz served in the army national guard for 2h years. his highest position was command sergeant major, one of the highest enlisted ranks in the military he says that in forms a lot of his interest and experience in veteran affairs. he was a four—month social studies teacher and a football coach at a high school in southern minnesota. he had tremendous success on the football pitch for them he was a us congressman as we've been discussing for 12 years. winning in a mostly rural, heavy republican southern minnesota district it was an elected governor of minnesota in 2018, winning by more than i! 2018, winning by more than 11 points. while minnesota is not considered a swing state generally it will still play an important role in novembers elections. the
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midwestern state has voted democrat in every presidential election for more than 50 years. there's nothing to indicate that it won't do the same this year. it does neighbour the critical blue wall state of wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania. we're awaiting that rally to start in temple university and pennsylvania. all industrial heartlands which both campaign say they absolutely need to win in order to win the white house. and in picking governor walz paris campaign is not to be trying to appeal to more rural, white, blue—collar voters in these areas. governor walz signed several progressive policies into law as governor of minnesota, including the legalisation of recreational marijuana. also expunging low—level cannabis convictions for more than 50,000 minnesotans. he also guaranteed the protection of abortion access, signing that into state law and
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providing school meals for students from kindergarten to grade 12, regardless of their parent's income. he also set clean energy goals that require utilities to offer their customers 100% carbon free electricity by 2040. and also a red flag law that gives state courts the power to confiscate guns from residents who pose a risk to themselves or to others. most recently the governor has led the democratic parties attacks on the republican rivals for president. gaining traction on social media for labelling donald trump and his running matejd vance as weird, as he put it. and on that point, a lot of times the role of the vp candidate is to be the attack dog and to go after the other party. how do you think he's going to fare on fat? i do you think he's going to fare on fat? ~ , do you think he's going to fare on fat? ~' , ., ., ., fat? i think he is doing a great 'ob. he fat? i think he is doing a great job- he has — fat? i think he is doing a great job. he has been doing - fat? i think he is doing a great job. he has been doing a - fat? i think he is doing a great| job. he has been doing a great fat? i think he is doing a great - job. he has been doing a great job job. he has been doing a greatjob and will do a greatjob as the vp candidate. as i mentioned, he's
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midwest nice. that is a concept here in the united states where midwesterners are just really friendly, very nice and they can deliver harsh messages in ways that don't feel harsh. i think that is something that the american people a really longing for within their politics. we can disagree without being disagreeable. he embodies that. the litany of accomplishments that. the litany of accomplishments that you laid out for him, those are all things that are popular across the american populace, irrespective of party. florida where i represented, a great example of that. in years where our elected supported marijuana initiatives or minimum—wage initiatives or other things, they were overwhelmingly popular, two thirds of the
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electorate voted for those types of initiatives that governor walz implemented in minnesota. i think he has a really good legislative background that is popular. also the ability to deliver the message way thatis ability to deliver the message way that is not abrasive and is refreshing given the kind of politics that we see today in america. ~ politics that we see today in america-— politics that we see today in america. ~ , , ., america. we will see 'ust what messa . e america. we will see 'ust what message he h america. we will see just what message he delivered - america. we will see just what message he delivered shortly. | america. we will see just what - message he delivered shortly. we're looking at live pictures from temple university in philadelphia, pennsylvania where we're awaiting their firstjoint rally from the vice president kamala harris. who is of course the presidential, we saw a moment ago as we were talking they brought out the podium with the vice presidential seal on it. the focus has now moved to what we're looking at there, which is an entryway in the arena in temple university where
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we're expecting the vice president and the vice president to come out and the vice president to come out and address the people gathered in temple university what are you expecting to hear from them and how is that going to set out there stall for the rest of the campaign? i expect that there might be a little bit of talk about the opponent they are running again. a little bit about the threat of what a second trump term will be. i fully expect that the bulk of this speech will be about who they are fighting for, which is the american people. middle—class working families who are struggling with the cost of goods. and we're just trying to get ahead in a tough economic times pose pandemic. they are going to talk about what they are going to do to ensure that that happens. the kinds of policies that they will support in order to create opportunity for the american people. they are going
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to talk about how it is that they get to be in a position to be able to carry out that agenda. that really calls upon democrats and other americans to participate in this election cycle. whether that is by volunteering or by simply making sure that they vote. there will be a call to action. i think that is a classic formula for a campaign speech with that who you fighting for, what are you fighting for and how will you fight for that? this how will you fight for that? as we're waiting for the vice president and governor walz to come out, they have lowered the lights in the arena. there is blue and red flashing, party atmosphere. you know the governor well. on a human level what is a moment like this going to be like for him? three weeks ago, less than three weeks ago he was just the governor of minnesota and now he finds himself about to walk
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out on essentially a world stage and potentially become the vice president of this country? he potentially become the vice president of this country? he has to be one of the _ president of this country? he has to be one of the most _ president of this country? he has to be one of the most down _ president of this country? he has to be one of the most down to earth i be one of the most down to earth people i have ever met in my life. i think that that probably grounds what would otherwise be a heady experience for anybody. i can't imagine what it must feel like put up imagine what it must feel like put up i know that he must be really excited to be able to add his voice to this effort to elect a democratic administration for another four years. and to carry out the things that i know he deeply believes in, which is to help the working class americans move ahead. you have to look at his record in minnesota and see how he has cared for young people and old people and for veterans and just your average american who is trying to get by. one thing that i think of when i
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think of him, he has the best sense of humour of anybody i know. i think when there are high stress moments humour is probably one of the best recipes to breaking that up. i imagine that he is handling this moment, being in the spotlight and the biggest political career moment for him with a mix of groundedness, calm and sense and also with a bit of humour. calm and sense and also with a bit of humour-— calm and sense and also with a bit of humour. . �* , . ., of humour. we're expected humour, not minnesota _ of humour. we're expected humour, not minnesota nice, _ of humour. we're expected humour, not minnesota nice, attack _ of humour. we're expected humour, not minnesota nice, attack dog, - of humour. we're expected humour, not minnesota nice, attack dog, the | not minnesota nice, attack dog, the bar is certainly set high for governor walz here. we're hearing some chairs. the arena in temple university, we're looking at it now. before the vice president and governor walk out. this is a converted crowd at these events. these people are volunteers, they work hard for the party and they are
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invited to these moments as a reward, essentially. i invited to these moments as a reward, essentially.— invited to these moments as a reward, essentially. ithink it's a little bit of _ reward, essentially. ithink it's a little bit of all — reward, essentially. ithink it's a little bit of all of _ reward, essentially. ithink it's a little bit of all of that. _ reward, essentially. ithink it's a little bit of all of that. if - reward, essentially. ithink it's a little bit of all of that. if you - little bit of all of that. if you look at the george or rally that vice president harris had, it was jam packed. that wasn'tjust volunteers. that was average americans who are curious and interested and excited about her candidacy. i think you will see a mix of that here as well. it's not just a stage event. these are opportunities for people who live in the area to really see what this campaign is about, to participate in a moment that is going to be historical, potentially. ithink a moment that is going to be historical, potentially. i think you have a mix in that crowd they are. when you and he would've been running around capitol hill and... it's gone quiet in the arena. if i
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suddenly interrupt you please don't be offended because that is because they're coming out. when you are working together in congress and he went out to be covered or did he have vice presidential aspirations? is that something that every politician believes of, moving up in office? ., ., ., , ., ., politician believes of, moving up in office? ., ., ., ., ., office? not that i was aware of. i think there _ office? not that i was aware of. i think there are _ office? not that i was aware of. i think there are moments - office? not that i was aware of. i think there are moments where. office? not that i was aware of. i i think there are moments where true public servants, i see him as a public servants, i see him as a public servants, i see him as a public servants, as opposed to political theatrics, which there is a mix of that in congress. i do see him as a public servant. there are moments where public servants get called and they don't necessarily expected to happen. but when it does the obvious answer is to say yes and to up and to bring all of your skills and experiences to the platform and try to win. i imagine
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that that is a bit of what happened here. ., ,, ., that that is a bit of what happened here. ., ., ., here. here we go. some of the team coming out- — here. here we go. some of the team coming out. that _ here. here we go. some of the team coming out. that usually _ here. here we go. some of the team coming out. that usually signals - coming out. that usually signals we're not far from the action. the campaign has given a couple of experts to tease the speeches that we're about to hear. i can tell you that the vice president will be making a lot of what we have been discussing about their broad appeal to general americans. she's going to say something along the lines of the promise of america is what makes it possible for two middle—class kids that won a daughter of oakland, california, raised by a working mother, the other a son of the nebraska plains who grew up working on a farm, only in this great country is it possible for them to make it all the way to the white house. coach walz and i may help from different quarters of this great country but our values are the same. we both believe in lifting people up, not knocking them down. that is what we've been discussing about speaking to their kind of shared backgrounds but different
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backgrounds and held between both they will try to sell this broad appeal to american voters. i think it's really important _ appeal to american voters. i think it's really important that - appeal to american voters. i think it's really important that they - appeal to american voters. i think it's really important that they talk| it's really important that they talk about their personal narrative. so much of elections is about the values that candidates have. if people don't get into their policy perspectives, if they understand their values and understand that that's the framework that they make their decisions through they create a level of comfort in voting for them. , , ., ., a level of comfort in voting for them. , ., ., , .,~ , ~ ., them. just to give a sneak peek of what we're — them. just to give a sneak peek of what we're likely _ them. just to give a sneak peek of what we're likely to _ them. just to give a sneak peek of what we're likely to hear - them. just to give a sneak peek of what we're likely to hear from - what we're likely to hear from heaven or walz. he's going to start with what we've heard about kamala harris or sell, her criminal prosecutorial background and how she set herself apart from donald trump. he's going to say she took on predators and fraudsters, took down transnational gangs, stood up against powerful corporate interest, she's never hesitated to reach
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across the aisle if it meant improving peoples lives for the think we can hear beyonce is freedom playing, which is usually her walk out sound. �* , playing, which is usually her walk out sound-— out sound. let's have a listen. welcome _ out sound. let's have a listen. welcome to — out sound. let's have a listen. welcome to the _ out sound. let's have a listen. welcome to the vice _ out sound. let's have a listen. welcome to the vice presidenti out sound. let's have a listen. i welcome to the vice president of the united states, kamala harris and tim walz _ united states, kamala harris and tim walz. , cheers and applause.
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pennsylvania! so, let me say, on behalf of myself and the first second gentleman of the united states, my husband, doug emhoff... thank you for the warm welcome. cheering i don't need to say, it's good to be here with all of your friends, all the leaders were here. i want to thank former governor, senator bob casey, who we will reelect this november, senatorjohn fetterman,
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