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if you do stuff online, we will come for you, just as much as we will come for you for what you do on the streets of our country. president biden says he's not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if donald trump loses november's election. he means what he says. we don't take him seriously. he means it. all the stuff about, "if we lose, it will be a bloodbath." three taylor swift concerts in vienna are cancelled after two men are arrested on suspicion of planning an attack. and no guts, no glory? a new study finds an unlikely way of guaging a racehorse�*s chances of winning, from the age ofjust one month old. hello, i'm lauren taylor. let's start here in the uk... where thousands of anti—racism protesters have rallied in cities and towns across england after a week of anti—immigrant rioting. britain's most senior police
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officer has praised the show of unity and said fears of extreme—right violence had abated. police had been prepared forfurther violence, and thousands of officers were deployed, but there was no sign of any disorder on the scale of recent days. the marches were mostly peaceful — and the government says it "cautiously welcomed" the scenes last night. more than 6000 police officers had been mobilised on wednesday evening — from newcastle to birmingham, liverpool to brighton, sheffield to london. the week of violent unrest was sparked by misinformation that spread online following the fatal stabbing of three girls in southport, just over a week ago. the metropolitan police commissioner mark rowley gave his assessment of wednesday night's events. massive policing operation. i'm really pleased with how it went. we put thousands of officers on the street and i think the show of force from the police and, frankly, the show of unity from communities together defeated the challenges that we've seen. it went off very peacefully last night. a couple of locations where some local criminals turn out and try
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and create a bit of anti—social behaviour, and we arrested a few of them, but it was a very successful night and the fears of sort of extreme right disorder were abated. so, a successful operation, thanks to communities and police. now, for people wondering what kinds of people you're arresting, could you tell me about those? are we talking about the average person on the street? definitely not. these are criminals. they're thugs. they're not patriots. we've been out doing some dawn raids this morning. the people who were most violent in the whitehall protest and violence last week, and yesterday, today, it's going to be sort of more than 20 people, about 70% of them have got criminal backgrounds. we've got criminal damage, violence, weapons offences, football banning orders. these are criminal thugs. any suggestion they're patriots or they've got a cause that they're protesting about is nonsense. they're criminals and, frankly, most of them
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are going to be charged with violent disorder and most of them are going to be going to prison for a few years. what are your thoughts on the government response? yeah, clearly, we've been working with government. we've had several cobra meetings this week. so, as police chiefs across the country have been working together, putting these big operations in place to protect communities, we've been briefing government on that, and they've been putting in plans for other parts of government, local authorities, to support us and support communities. the minister for policing, dame diana johnson, said that the counter protests against the far right show that the majority of the country is law—abiding and peaceful. well, i think this country has a tradition, doesn't it, of peaceful protests? and i think last night was an example of that. now, clearly, because of what had happened in previous days, we were very anxious that we didn't add to the burden on the police by having to police counter demonstrations and protests. but luckily, last night, everything on the whole was peaceful, so that's important. but i think what last night
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illustrated was the vast majority of people in this country are law abiding, are tolerant, respect the police, want their communities to be ones that are safe for all communities. and i think that that was demonstrated last night by some of what we saw on the streets with those people who came forward to make their views clear because, unfortunately, in the last few nights, what we'd seen was those kind of very small criminal element, the extremists were out on the streets, engaging in disorder and violence, and that's not what britain is. that is not what the british people are about. let's speak to our political correspondent hannah miller who's at westminster. a relatively calm night. what as the action been from downing street so far? a, action been from downing street so far? �* , , ., far? a sense of quiet relief here but they are _ far? a sense of quiet relief here but they are not _ far? a sense of quiet relief here but they are not at _ far? a sense of quiet relief here but they are not at the - far? a sense of quiet relief here but they are not at the point - far? a sense of quiet relief here but they are not at the point at l far? a sense of quiet relief here l but they are not at the point at all of saying that this is the job done.
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this intelligence the policing unit has suggested of further riots or protests over the coming weekend, so they are clearly on the lookout and while last night was encouraging, they are not at the point of saying this is all over and done with. it's really been downing street's strategy all along with justice seeming to be done would have an effect of making people think twice about whether they really want to go out onto the streets and the suggestion is that some tough sentences being handed down yesterday, more sentencing and court appearances today, some due to be televised sends a message, and that in combination with more police being out in communities has helped to quell some of the violence. there are questions though about if this
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isn't the end of it, how possible will it be to maintain this level of policing? there is a suggestion from police that some officers have been working on rest days and the knock—on impact of that. but downing street quietly relieved this morning but perhaps a suggestion that the way they hoped their strategy played out may be playing out and with more arrests are expected in the coming days, a quiet hope that we may have seen the back of the worst of this. you mentioned that this is not the end of it in terms of the response. what about things like the online aspect of that? what will they focus on next? , ., . , aspect of that? what will they focus on next? ,., . , on next? the policing minister said this morning _ on next? the policing minister said this morning they _ on next? the policing minister said this morning they would _ on next? the policing minister said this morning they would look- on next? the policing minister said this morning they would look at. on next? the policing minister said i this morning they would look at what more they could do about the online
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presence and the science and technology department in conversations with social media companies. they have a situation where the online safety act has come into law but 0fcom, the regulator who have put it into place are still consulting on draft guidelines and those guidelines and mechanisms within the online safety act are not fully enforced at this point but 0fcom, the regulator, did write to the social media company saying, look, there may not be a legal duty fully in force at the moment but that does not mean that you couldn't just take down any criminal activity thatis just take down any criminal activity that is on your sites and that's the message coming from government as well, the fine print of the regulation is still to come into force and is still being worked on and they will mail look whether to strengthen it or bring it into force more quickly. they don't necessarily
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have to do that for social media companies themselves to decide to take further action although whether many would choose to do so is clearly a different question. let's speak now to kevin hurley, a former detective chief superintendent from the city of london police. he's also the former police and crime commissioner for surrey. thank you forjoining us. what's your reaction to how events played out last night. it slightly, then it has been but what's been the policing response so far? its given olice a policing response so far? its given police a little _ policing response so far? its given police a little bit _ policing response so far? its given police a little bit of _ policing response so far? its given police a little bit of breathing - police a little bit of breathing space. this would have been a massive scramble to pull people away from normal patrol duties in their local areas and filling the part—time role with a dress up for public order duties. the people you see up the streets with the helmets and shields are normal police who
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worked the streets. there will be a bit of relief there and they will probably keep the numbers up for the next few days. which is a burden on every single community around the country where you will not have the response police, patrolling police you've got anyway and that's bad enough as it is for the last 15 years. that's an issue there. i have a sense around this of be careful what you wish for, as regards to the approach being taken by police leaders, crown prosecution service and politicians. we are seeing quite and politicians. we are seeing quite a draconian approach, yes, what we are seeing right now is really unpleasant, dreadful writing going on, but the response that's been brought in could be used on other people at a different time and i'm always concerned to see any
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government respond to what you might call social insurgent behaviour with a draconian imposition of laws and all this talk of arrests and so forth. ., ., , ., all this talk of arrests and so forth. ., ., ,, all this talk of arrests and so forth. ., ,, forth. how do you assess the risk of further violent _ forth. how do you assess the risk of further violent disorder _ forth. how do you assess the risk of further violent disorder in _ forth. how do you assess the risk of further violent disorder in the - further violent disorder in the weeks to come, given what we have seen so far? it weeks to come, given what we have seen so far?— seen so far? it it's there from all sorts of quarters _ seen so far? it it's there from all sorts of quarters because - seen so far? it it's there from all sorts of quarters because what l seen so far? it it's there from all- sorts of quarters because what we're seeing, i think, sorts of quarters because what we're seeing, ithink, a sorts of quarters because what we're seeing, i think, a festering sorts of quarters because what we're seeing, ithink, a festering boil that has been developing within the essentially english but to some extent irish and welsh working class states where people feel disenfranchised and at the bottom of the pile when they are being considered and, as a result of that, what we've got is a manifestation of that, driven on a false premise of
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what people thought. up in southport, where i think people thought this is an islamist attack, they felt validated but the point i'm making is there is undoubtedly a problem across a large number of essentially white working class people across the uk, particularly in areas of disadvantaged, people see their town centre shut down, struggling social services and i think that's a growing... civil insurgency is too strong a word but it dispatches ration. i've got no doubt we will see this type of violence occurring again. i suspect we will see a reactive one coming back from young men from pakistani
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heritage backgrounds in the north of england and you can never count out that there won't be spontaneous rioting, driven by looting, like the ones we saw in 2011. it's clear to me that the police actually are not set up any more to deal with large—scale disorder, such as what we saw in 2011. what we are seeing lately is nothing like that. in 2011, it took 17,000 extra officers to quell it a week later. we've already seen 116,000 in this operation. already seen 46,000 in this operation-— already seen 46,000 in this oeration. ., . ., ., operation. police overnight have said that most _ operation. police overnight have said that most of _ operation. police overnight have said that most of the _ operation. police overnight have said that most of the protests i said that most of the protests overnight were peaceful and have thanked communities for coming together. let's speak to our reporter in sheffield, jessica lane. what happened there where you are?
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similar to the picture all over the country, here yesterday, they were expecting to be two anti—immigration protests, one in the afternoon in the city centre and another yesterday evening outside the offices of a company that gives advice on immigration applications and freezers and neither of these protests happened in the end. what we did see was 1500 people turn up outside those offices. they were anti—bases and protesters gathering there because they were planning what was going to be a counterprotest but in the end they had nothing to counter. yorkshire police headquarters will be delighted about the fact that the plans work. yesterday, we were seeing an increased police presence, an increased number of police vans in the city centre to put out the
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message that if you do something criminal, we are here and we will come and find you. there have been extra police powers in place. people have been able to stop and search people, move them on if they are gathering in the city centre and also asked them to remove anything covering their faces. also asked them to remove anything covering theirfaces. people also asked them to remove anything covering their faces. people are already appearing in court this week in sheffield, after the violent disorder we saw at the weekend, both in sheffield and rotherham. more people are due in court over the coming days for that violence, including teenagers who are going to be appearing at a youth court. there was one story dominating this morning's newspaper front pages in the uk — the far—right violence and anti—racism counter—protests that we're seeing across the country. "far—right rioters face football ban as ministers bid to curb unrest". the i newspaper reports on the tens of thousands anti—racism protesters gathering on streets in england.
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it says those involved in rioting may face a football ban as the government looks to end the violence. "united britain stands firm against thugs" is the headline on the front of thursday's daily express underneath a wide shot photo of anti—racist demonstrators gathering in walthamstow on a street outside an immigration centre. a man boarding up a samaritans charity shop in southend features on the front of the daily telegraph as it reports on parts of the country which braced itself for further rioting. "britain shuts up shop" is the headline — the paper also says mps have been told by the house of commons speaker sir lindsay hoyle to work for home if they feel they might be targeted by demonstrators. "thousands take to the streets to counter threat from far right" — the guardian's lead story also centres on thousands of people taking to streets in parts of the capital, blackpool, brighton and sheffield in what it describes as the biggest mobilisation of police officers and staff since the 2011 riots in london. and today's daily mail also splashes on the anti—racism protests, describing them as the "night
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anti—hate marchers faced down the thugs". in northern ireland, executive ministers are set to meet later today before the stormont assembly is recalled to address the recent violence in belfast. the first minister and deputy first minister have stated that their top priority is to face down racism and intimidation. this follows attacks on businesses in the city after anti—immigration protests turned violent. let's speak now to our political correspondent darran marshall who is at stormont. what's the meeting going to be tackling this morning? goad what's the meeting going to be tackling this morning? good morning, well, politicians _ tackling this morning? good morning, well, politicians here _ tackling this morning? good morning, well, politicians here at _ tackling this morning? good morning, well, politicians here at stormont - well, politicians here at stormont will meet. that meeting will get under way in about 15 minutes' time. they will ask what they can do to bring this violence to an end and will receive a briefing from the northern ireland police service chief constable. they will be questions for him about his policing tactics on saturday. he's made it
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clear that his police force is stretched. this morning he asked for additional resources with the police here concerned about violence and disorder over the coming weeks. after that meeting, politicians will come up to stormont�*s chamber to discuss racism and violence and put out the message. we will see the first minister and deputy minister stand shoulder to shoulder to unite against the violence that has gone on for five nights against the violence that has gone on forfive nights in against the violence that has gone on for five nights in a against the violence that has gone on forfive nights in a row. you on for five nights in a row. you mention the — on for five nights in a row. you mention the police _ on for five nights in a row. you mention the police service and what are they saying about any links to the paramilitary world, to the violence? ., . the paramilitary world, to the violence?— the paramilitary world, to the violence? , , violence? police confirmed yesterday that there was _ violence? police confirmed yesterday that there was a _ violence? police confirmed yesterday that there was a permanent - violence? police confirmed yesterday that there was a permanent military l that there was a permanent military involvement in these incidents focused —— paramilitary on belfast. they have confirmed 16 males have been arrested. seven have been
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charged in the police say they are continuing to gather further evidence from cctv promising more arrests will come. they have appealed for moral support from great britain because they're concerned over what will happen over the coming days. on the psni youtube channel there was a message to the muslim community ireland to say that the police stand beside you. he says the police stand beside you. he says the police stand beside you. he says the police will stand in harm's way to protect them.— the police will stand in harm's way to protect them. thank you, darren, for that update. _ to protect them. thank you, darren, for that update. let's _ to protect them. thank you, darren, for that update. let's see _ to protect them. thank you, darren, for that update. let's see some - for that update. let's see some breaking news, the micro—finance pioneer has landed in bangladesh after the ousting of sheikh hasina. the 84—year—old nobel peace prize
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winner back in dakar now, getting ready to take over the interim government of bangladesh. this is bbc news.
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the separatist former leader of catalonia, carles puigdemont, has returned from a lengthy exile to spain, where he risks arrest on a charge linked to a failed bid for independence seven years ago. he's addressed supporters who've gathered near the region's parliament, shortly ahead of the expected investiture of a new head of the catalan government. with me is our europe editor, danny aeberhard. tell us about the return of carles puigdemont. he's done everything he can to avoid
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extradition to spain but he is now coming here voluntarily. he has arrived barcelona and addressed thousands of supporters and they gave him a hero's welcome so lots of people waving the separatist catalan flags, shouting independence, calling him president, that was his title of the head of the catalan government. he came and gave a speech saying, long live catalonia. he denounced spain's political system as being judicial. the trouble is, spain's supreme court says that one element of that law did not apply to carles puigdemont in terms of embezzlement which he is accused of. the in terms of embezzlement which he is accused of. ., ., , �* , accused of. the region doesn't seem
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to want to push _ accused of. the region doesn't seem to want to push for _ accused of. the region doesn't seem to want to push for independence. . to want to push for independence. the timing of his return is very deliberate and disruptive. there is a socialist giving a speech in the catalan parliament, if he is elected head of regional government, would be the first head of catalonia's regional government not to advocate for catalonian independence for more than a decade so a considerable shift. so one of the pro independence hero is returns, disrupts this ceremony. if he is arrested, his party have said they will push for that vote to be suspended and it puts spain's democracy in a dilemma because as carles puigdemont has said already, what country passes an amnesty law but then does not advocate amnesty.
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let's turn to bangladesh where the nobel peace prize winner, muhammad yunus, is due back there to lead a caretaker government after protests forced the resignation of the long—term prime minister, sheikh hasina. yunus is a long—time politicalfoe of the ousted prime minister. he was announced as leader following talks between the president and student leaders who played a key role in the weeks of unrest that toppled sheikh hasina. muhammad yunus, you may remember him as being the banker to the poorest of the poor and one a nobel peace prize in 2006, loaning small amounts of money to rural women and became unpopular with the government due to those efforts. president biden says he's not
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confident there'll be a peaceful transfer of power if donald trump loses the us presidential election in november. mr biden told cbs news that people should take seriously the republican candidate's threat that there would be a "blood—bath". the us president suggested that mr trump would say the election had been stolen, as he did in 2020. he's been speaking to robert costa, chief election and campaign correspondent with cbs. are you confident that there will be a peaceful transfer of power in january 2025. if trump wins? no, i'm not confident at all. i mean, if trump loses, i'm not confident at all. he means what he says. we don't take him seriously. he means it. all the stuff about if we lose, there'll be a bloodbath. it's happened. it's stolen. look what they're trying to do now in the local election districts where people count the votes or elected, or putting people in place in states that they're going to count the votes. right. you can't love your country only when you win. let's speak to cbs news correspondent jarred hill who's in new york.
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any reaction from mr trump's camp to this? ~ �* , ., this? we've seen the former presidents — this? we've seen the former presidents team _ this? we've seen the former presidents team pushing - this? we've seen the former. presidents team pushing back this? we've seen the former- presidents team pushing back against this idea but this has been said repeatedly, notjust in the past but in recent history, saying that the election was fair if he ends up winning. this is pretty much in line with what he's said in the past. stay with us here on bbc news. let's ta ke let's take you back now to dakar in bangladesh where we've had the return of muhammad yunus, who is
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going to take over leading the country as the interim leader of the government there after the prime minister, sheikh hasina, was ousted by a number of protests there over the recent weeks. the 84—year—old was given the nobel peace prize in 2006 for his work and he is the choice of the students there who have had discussions with the military who have taken over the government, and he is now back in the country. he's 84 and his government, his work was denounced by sheikh hasina at the time. she accused him of sucking blood from the poor. he was not popular with everyone but he was certainly popular with the students who ran protest against the governments for a number of weeks and months which turn violent at various points and
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ended up with the deposition of sheikh hasina. so muhammad yunus, taking over after the ousting of the premier, sheikh hasina. you are watching bbc news.
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this is bbc news. the headlines... anti—racism protesters have taken to england's streets, quelling fears of another night of unrest. meanwhile, the policing minister warns of more convictions, including for those who encouraged
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the recent violence online. catalan separatist carles puigdemont returns to barcelona despite facing an arrest warrant. the leader has been in self—imposed exile in belgium for the past seven years. president biden says he's not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if donald trump loses november's election. three taylor swift concerts in vienna are cancelled after two men are arrested on suspicion of planning an attack. hello. more now on the anti—racism protests in cities and towns across england which have followed a week of anti—immigrant rioting. police had been prepared for further violence and thousands of officers were deployed, but there was no sign of any disorder on the scale of recent days. 0ur correspondent, joe inwood, reports. the city had been braced for trouble. so, this part of bristol is where a couple of immigration lawyers are based, whose addresses have been leaked online. and there was a real fear there could be a far—right protest
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