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the israeli logic is i an operation that is, in my mind, long overdue. over the last two and a half, three years, we've seen- a steady rise in terrorist attacks emanating from i palestinian terrorist - organisations in the area that you refer to as the west bank. most israelis call it| judea and samaria. the israeli incursions in the west bank, the biggest in years. the un says it is "fuelling an already explosive" situation. tonight, the security council will meet to discuss another worrying development. so bad in gaza that polio is making a comeback. the un says they need a pause in the fighting, to begin vaccination. the middle east part of the discussions in paris today, very much front and centre, where the british prime minister met with
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president macron. ukraine also on the agenda. president zelensky says his country has developed its own long range weapon that will allow it to strike deep into russia. and stub it out — the smoking ban in britain that might soon be extended to pub gardens and terraces. could it work or is it an intervention too far? warm welcome to the programme. the un security council is to meet this hour to discuss a further deterioration in the middle east. the focus will be gaza, where polio is making a comeback. but also high on the agenda, israel's latest operation in the occupied west bank. the idf says it had been leading a "counter—terrorism operation" injenin, tulkarm and other cities. among 17 people killed was a senior commander of islamichhad. dozens of palestinians also injured. the us government says it supports israel's right to defend itself, but it has expressed concerns about the safety of palestinian civilians. the european union says it is also alarmed by some of the hate messaging that's been coming from far—right politicians in israel and has
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begun discussing sanctions. meanwhile, the un says it is making plans to open a humanitarian corridor inside gaza, so it can begin a vaccination programme for polio. it's reported that both israel and hamas have given preliminary agreement to a truce to allow the vaccines in. we are yet to get all the details about what is being proposed, but it's believed to involve a temporary ceasefire across three different areas of the strip. the un had been warning for months about the spread of polio in gaza and will want to finalise those plan as soon as possible. we will keep an eye on the security council before the programme. laura blumenfeld is a middle east analyst and former senior policy adviser on the state department's israeli palestinian negotiating team. you are very welcome to the programme. these sort of operations are commonplace in the occupied west bank, but not usually on this scale, and it's certainly the case that they have intensified in the past three years, since that in
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yahoo and this government which includes far right ministers came to power —— since netanyahu. how concerned do you think the state department is getting about this?— getting about this? we've alwa s getting about this? we've always been _ getting about this? we've always been concerned. l getting about this? we've - always been concerned. when i was working at the state government under president obama, stover number how my colleagues... we were working on and is really policy peace agreement, but there will be an announcement about settlements, and that would set us back for days if not weeks. just today cosmic military operations underscore something we have been saying for as long as we've been working on this, which is the status quo is unsustainable. ~ . , ., unsustainable. washington did announce sanctions _ unsustainable. washington did announce sanctions on - unsustainable. washington did announce sanctions on and - unsustainable. washington did announce sanctions on and is i announce sanctions on and is really settled a group this week. are they prepared to go further than that? the europeans are talking today about sanctioning some of the far right ministers. it’s far right ministers. it's interesting _ far right ministers. it's interesting that - far right ministers. it's interesting that the . far right ministers. it�*s interesting that the united states has shown a willingness to section individuals and entities, they've not gone as far as the ministers. it's important to watch. the united
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states expressed serious concerns, those were the two words they used, and benjamin that yahoo put out a statement saying, we are seriously concerned, and he has intense our says he is in negotiations... militarily, we talk about, no daylight between the united states and israel, there i do see shoulder to shoulder as the as early as brace for a potential iranian attack. we have 18 warships in the mediterranean.— attack. we have 18 warships in the mediterranean. what would help alleviate _ the mediterranean. what would help alleviate this _ the mediterranean. what would help alleviate this situation - help alleviate this situation is a cease—fire deal. what are you hearing from your sources about where that stands tonight? about where that stands toniaht? �* , about where that stands tonight?— about where that stands toniaht? �* , , , tonight? it's the nitty-gritty. nuts and bolts. _ tonight? it's the nitty-gritty. nuts and bolts. all _ tonight? it's the nitty-gritty. nuts and bolts. all these - nuts and bolts. all these languages about details, and as i learned the hard way, the devil is in the details. i i'm hoping this polio next mission pots could beat sponges of the more permanent, but we have to
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see. us election, it's really hard to be any kind of movement or pressure, and i hate to think about the lives that are hanging in the balance both for the israelis and the palestinians if we have to wait into november.— palestinians if we have to wait into november. let's talk about that humanitarian _ into november. let's talk about that humanitarian pause - into november. let's talk about that humanitarian pause which. that humanitarian pause which is being discussed tonight at the security council. we've been hearing from margaret harris, the spokesperson for the world health organization. have a listen to what she said. every child is going to be a huge challenge. and we've got 640,000, over 640,000 children we need to reach, every child under the age of ten. and so, yeah, we will have fixed vaccination sites, but we will also have vaccinated going tent to tent. but it will be dependent on security. if there's any sense of fighting or evacuation orders or more threats mean people will be displaced, it won't be possible to reach all those children. 640,000, that is in extraordinary number of young
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people, traumatise, not wanting to come out of their tents or structures because they don't trust the process. do you think is nothing like this could hold, that it could alleviate the problem? —— that something like this? i the problem? -- that something like this? , ., , like this? i will tell you why i am optimistic _ like this? i will tell you why i am optimistic of _ like this? i will tell you why i am optimistic of the - like this? i will tell you why l i am optimistic of the first of all because i am american, but sometimes the simpler the project, the easier it is to implement, especially in the middle east. onenote go shader told me when we were working on the deal, there's no point plan that works in the middle east except the one point plan, and this is notjust a three—part deal where we can haggle forever about the second and third parts. it is limited, and so we have a chance for a success. so we have a chance for a succes— so we have a chance for a success. . . �* ., ., success. laura blumenfeld, good to talk to you _ success. laura blumenfeld, good to talk to you tonight. _ success. laura blumenfeld, good to talk to you tonight. thank- to talk to you tonight. thank you. let me show you the pictures live from new york where the security council has just begun its discussions. we are being told this unitarian pause would stretch from around
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6am 3pm —— humanitarian pause. both sides have to stick to that cease—fire, if they get into administer the vaccines. a lot in the balance, especially with that serious situation in the west bank. in paris today, the british prime minister was meeting emmanuel macron. the two leaders "reiterated their call for an immediate ceasefire in the middle east". but plenty of other things to discuss as well, not least sir keir starmer�*s focus on resetting relations with the european union. yesterday while in berlin, he announced plans for a new treaty setting out closer ties with germany. some on the right have questioned whether he is unpicking brexit. but today in france, he said the operative word |s"reset" n , ot"reverse" joining me from brussels is suzanne lynch. she is global playbook author and associate editor at politico. nice to see you. thanks for coming on. do you think the french are prepared to go just
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as far as the germans seem to go yesterday? i as far as the germans seem to go yesterday?— as far as the germans seem to go yesterday? i think there was definitely less _ go yesterday? i think there was definitely less detail _ go yesterday? i think there was definitely less detail on - go yesterday? i think there was definitely less detail on what i definitely less detail on what we are hearing from paris this evening, after that meeting between sir keir starmer and emmanuel macron. we heard a lot about strengthening and broadening the relationship between france and britain but not much in the way of detail. in germany yesterday, we had that bit more. we had a joint press conference between olaf scholz, the german leader, and keir starmer, and both sides agreed to work on a bilateral treaty that they expect to be in place by next year of the even earlier, by the end of the year, keir starmersaid. and little bit warmer, and some people in brussels are saying, that's the way it was during those brexit negotiations. france was always seen as a bit more of a hard copy, germany more of a hard copy, germany more inclined to be a bit more pragmatic, give britain that bit more, that ultimately they come together as one within the eu. look, it is significant he
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is on this trip. it is signalling warmer relationships between london and these two capitals of. it between london and these two capitals of-_ capitals of. it certainly looks like a warm _ capitals of. it certainly looks like a warm embrace. - capitals of. it certainly looks i like a warm embrace. normally the president would stand at the president would stand at the top of the steps to receive his guests, but today, came down onto the forecourt. keir starmer is right, isn't he, that the path to warmer relations probably first of all flows through the defence in the security brief? and i know they were talking about ukraine today. where does france stand on this issue which we are going to talk about shortly, on ukrainian long—range missiles? obviously they develop the storm shadow together, soak the uk cannot go it alone on this, they would need the french to give the green light. where is president macron stand on that? is it macron earlier in the year did suggest, he was open to this. today, in brussels, foreign ministers were meeting and having the same discussion with ukrainian foreign
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minister. he has called on the uk and france and the united states to back this, to allow weapons to be used by ukraine to hit right inside russia, the reality is, written, france and germany are already very closely aligned in terms of defence, through their membership of nato, and we've seen this since that explosion of hostilities in ukraine if every 2022. we've seen britain and these other allied countries initial work even closer together, so in a way, you're right it is obvious there will more defence cooperation, and keir starmer once more. one thing to watch his, just as the european commission is beginning to form for its next five years, just after the recent elections, there's a lot of talk here about defence and industry. the u defence industry. where is the uk fit with that? there is
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a sense that while germany might want more of a connection with the uk in terms of defence industry and keir starmer did not meet —— did meet the evens, needs in germany, france might be a bit less inclined to want that, so that's going to be interesting. how does the uk fit into the eu, europe was mickey for industrial policy going forward, which we expect will be a big focus for the european union —— europe's military—industrial. european union -- europe's military-industrial.- military-industrial. joseph perella talking _ military-industrial. joseph perella talking about - military-industrial. joseph perella talking about a - perella talking about a procedure he had initiated to test member status, to see if they want to... what are you hearing today? they want to. .. what are you hearing today?— they want to... what are you hearing today? this is a hugely divisive issue _ hearing today? this is a hugely divisive issue in _ hearing today? this is a hugely divisive issue in the _ hearing today? this is a hugely divisive issue in the european l divisive issue in the european union. today they were very much on the same page when it came to ukraine, on the middle east we still see those divides. some countries within the 27 number states who want
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to see the palestinian perspective a lot more. you have countries like spain, belgium and ireland, and then you've got other countries around the table, germany, austria, czech republic, who are very cautious about a sanctioning israel. i do think it's going to be difficult for the use to sing from the same hymn sheet on this very, very complex issue, so we don't expect anything really substantial from the eu expect anything really substantialfrom the eu on expect anything really substantial from the eu on this issue of the middle east. they were briefed today by the un coordinator on gaza, a former dutch foreign minister. she briefed ministers about the situation in gaza, predicting that the death toll would reach 41,000, and talking about what you've just been speaking about, that polio vaccination that's going to start this weekend. a lot of talk here, but i still think difficult for the eu to come out with one voice on the issue. suzanne, thank you — voice on the issue. suzanne, thank you very _ voice on the issue. suzanne, thank you very much - voice on the issue. suzanne, thank you very much for - voice on the issue. suzanne, | thank you very much for that. let's pick up on the topic
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of ukraine, because there is a crucial meeting coming up tomorrow in washington. the ukrainians want the white house to drop the restrictions on the use of long range missiles so they can reach targets deep inside russia. that has become much more urgent this week, after one of the most intense bombardments of ukraine we have seen since the war began. joining us is patrick bury, defence and security expert at the university of bath and former nato analyst. patrick, you're always welcome the programme. clearly keir starmer has said he is more inclined to start dropping some of the restrictions on these longer—range missiles, but was just setting out why that is not really his decision alone, and i also wonder whether the power of this decision lies in washington, where the ukrainians are going tomorrow. good evening, christian, thanks for having us on again. yes, it does, intentionally even at the tactical level, where some reports emerge to guest in the us has a say over which weapons the uk could actually give to
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ukraine inside russia. they are to do with export controls, etc, so at the tactical level, there is a decision there, but also the broader one. i would love to see personally speaking these missiles get into ukraine. they are getting hammered as we know. the russians have found a sweet spotin russians have found a sweet spot in terms of being able to use essentially what is a strategical operational air force and long—range to drop missiles, launch missiles, drop bombs, which are having commendably a very serious effect on the ukrainian energy —— cumulatively. they're getting into... -- cumulatively. they're getting into. . ._ -- cumulatively. they're getting into... -- cumulatively. they're ettin into... ., ., , getting into... how would they a- roach getting into... how would they approach that? _ getting into... how would they approach that? we _ getting into... how would they approach that? we must - getting into... how would they approach that? we must talk. approach that? we must talk about the f—16 which has gone out today but they have these f-16s out today but they have these f—16s now. is it notjust long—range missiles? are they wanting to fly into russian airspace to take these fighters on? , ., , , , , . on? the problem is, the russian aircraft are _ on? the problem is, the russian aircraft are staying _ on? the problem is, the russian aircraft are staying at _ on? the problem is, the russian aircraft are staying at a - aircraft are staying at a standoff distance of outside the air defence capabilities of ukraine and launching these
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missiles from afar, and using the drums as a screen to try to overpower, and then they hope they get, as in the last attack, they got 30 of 200 different projectiles. what the ukrainians are saying, we can't deal with this, it is too far from us, so we have to hit them on the ground if their airbases inside russia. the problem is, when we are essentially... i know russia has illegally invaded ukraine, but ukraine could not stand on its own without western help, so it is become a proxy war, and there is not a president i can think of like for like where one nuclear power gives an ok to a third power to use its weapons to attack its, the other nuclear power cosmic airbases on it some territory. that has not happened, and hence there is such reticence in the us. you imagine the intel assessments are getting better
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brains working on this. the f-16 we — brains working on this. the f-16 we are _ brains working on this. the f-16 we are told _ brains working on this. the f-16 we are told has - brains working on this. the f—16 we are told has gone down today, they say it was not hit, it was not pilot ever, which leaves mechanical fault up there in play —— pilot error. is maintenance of these f—16s in a war zone like ukraine, does this become an issue for the ukrainians as they fly these f—16s? the ukrainians as they fly these f-16s?_ the ukrainians as they fly these f-16s? ~ , , ., �* these f-16s? absolutely. you're talkinu these f-16s? absolutely. you're talking about — these f-16s? absolutely. you're talking about doing _ these f-16s? absolutely. you're talking about doing with - these f-16s? absolutely. you're talking about doing with a - these f-16s? absolutely. you're talking about doing with a new, | talking about doing with a new, compact platform, and of course you look up the training and the technicians, etc, but have they had the non—term, in—depth training a us air crew would get or a uk aircrew would have gone? that's the difference, i would say. they have not had that length. there are going to be some problems like this. also, just teething problems in terms of the pilots. they are saying it is not pilot error. you don't know immediately, do you? you don't know immediately, do ou? . �* �* you don't know immediately, do ou? . ~ �* , you? one lane abc is reporting toniuht is you? one lane abc is reporting
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tonight is there _ you? one lane abc is reporting tonight is there is _ you? one lane abc is reporting tonight is there is a _ you? one lane abc is reporting tonight is there is a race - you? one lane abc is reporting tonight is there is a race in - tonight is there is a race in ukraine to develop their own capability and they have their own long—range weapon which they are developing which they think will be able to strike deep into russia. that would bac change?— deep into russia. that would bac change? deep into russia. that would bacchanae? ~ , , , bac change? absolutely. this is where the direction _ bac change? absolutely. this is where the direction of _ bac change? absolutely. this is where the direction of travel - where the direction of travel should be. if us cannot give the weapons, setting of factories, through shadow companies etc, inside ukraine, getting them to build it and launching them themselves, there is nothing stopping that, and secondly there's nothing, and secondly there's nothing, and zelensky is asking for this in the shorter—term but you've got to flood the space with western air defence of these kind of attacks can happen again, for example, only of the latter stage that was a trunk of air defence that was pledged, only one of the systems out of five have arrived. systems out of five have arrived-— systems out of five have arrived. ,, . arrived. goodness. patrick, alwa s arrived. goodness. patrick, always grateful _ arrived. goodness. patrick, always grateful for - arrived. goodness. patrick, always grateful for your - arrived. goodness. patrick, i always grateful for your time. thanks for coming. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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welcome back. the government is considering banning smoking outside — in pub gardens, in outdoor restaurants, playgrounds and sports grounds — in england and wales. it had already planned to reintroduce the last government's bill that would make it illegal to sell tobacco to anyone born afterjanuary 2009, but now it's thinking of going further. the bbc�*s chief political correspondent henry zeffman asked sir keir starmer about it this lunchtime. yes, we are going to take decisions in this space. more details will be revealed, but this is a preventable series of deaths and we've got to take the action to reduce the burden on the nhs and reduce the burden on the taxpayer. you said when you became prime minister you wanted politics to tread more lightly on people's lives. this is the opposite, isn't it? look, i think it's important to get the balance right, but everybody watching this who uses the nhs will know that it's on its knees. we have to relieve the burden,
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and that's why i spoke before the election about moving to a preventative model. let's look at the numbers. the latest research shows 6.4 million people still smoke in the uk. almost 80,000 people die every year as a result of smoking, despite the ban on indoor smoking across the uk being put in place by 2007. health experts have welcomed the proposals. but it's not universally popular — far from it. here's the thoughts of people in york. if you are a smoker and it is what you like to do, and to be outside, i kind of think maybe you should have that freedom to smoke outside. not children's playgrounds, but... in the pub garden? in the pub garden, yeah, but in a sectioned—off area. i think it's another restriction on hospitality trying to survive. it's going to impact our sales and it takes away the freedom of choice for people who want to do something outside, where it's ok for them. unless you're banning it, full stop, there need - to be places for people to have a smoke. -
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but whilst we're eating, i don't particularly- want to smell it. let's speak to deborah arnott, chief executive of the charity action on smoking and health, otherwise known as ash. welcome to the programme. do you support extending this? i you support extending this? i do, i agree with your last interviewee, who said, no, there need to be places for people smoke outside. we don't want to force smokers back into the home, but at the same time, if you are set aside a pump eating or a cafe or a restaurant you don't particularly want to be forced to smell other people's smoke, and it's easy enough for some to get up and walk away to have their cigarette and then come back stop so i think it's getting the balance right, as the prime minister said. i would also like to respond to theissue would also like to respond to the issue raised about the damage this will do to the hospitality industry. i have been around a long time, i was involved in the campaign to get the original smoke—free legislation, and that was
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exactly the argument use then, and i quite understand why the hospitality trade is worried about it, but actually after the end came into force inside pubs and other hospitality venues, the number of people going to pubs went up, and the number of licensed premises went up. number of licensed premises went u -. . , number of licensed premises went u. . , . went up. there was an alternative _ went up. there was an alternative place - went up. there was an alternative place for i went up. there was an i alternative place for their clientele to go and smoke and they would say, we got soaring energy prices, staggering they w°uld say, we got soaring energy prices, staggering cost of doing business right now, a lot of drinkers do like a cigarette, you can see why the trade body is really concerned that this might do further damage to the industry. i don't think there's _ damage to the industry. i don't think there's any _ damage to the industry. i don't think there's any evidence i damage to the industry. i don't think there's any evidence to l think there's any evidence to show that's the case. and actually, if you think about it, it's a lot easier to get up and walk 15, 20 yards if you're set outside then it is when you're inside to go outside, so i don't buy that argument. it's been fomented in canada, its works very well and it has not
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damage the hospitality trade. —— is been implemented. it costs us £2 million a year to treat people for smoke related illnesses. what is not often talked about is the cost of that inactivity in the economy. the chancellor is trying to squeeze the pips out of everything to fill this enormous black hole in the economy and this is one area where public health, in relation to smoking, where they could do a lot of good. thea;r could do a lot of good. they could do a lot of good. they could indeed. _ could do a lot of good. they could indeed. the _ could do a lot of good. they could indeed. the analysis | could do a lot of good. they i could indeed. the analysis for ash, it was quoted in the article this morning in the sun, interestingly, shows that the economic cost of smoking is far greater than the cost to the nhs, it was about £22 billion a year, because actually, yes, people use the nhs, but they use the nhs because they can't work, because they can't work, because they've got heart disease, they've got lung cancer or other forms of cancer, they've got respiratory disease, and they are also
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disabled, needed social care earlier, so smokers need social care on average for acts of daily living, getting up in the morning, getting food, all the rest of it, something like ten years earlier than a nonsmoker. the economic cost is far greater then just the cost of the nhs. greater then 'ust the cost of the nhs. . , , greater then 'ust the cost of thenhs., ,, , ., the nhs. just very briefly, how do ou the nhs. just very briefly, how do you police _ the nhs. just very briefly, how do you police this? _ the nhs. just very briefly, how do you police this? you're i do you police this? you're talking about yards outside universities are just outside the pub on the high street. it's impossible to police, isn't it was yellow that's what they said about the ban on smoking indoors and they said about the ban on smoking indoors and actually it is self enforcing. _ smoking indoors and actually it is self enforcing. legislation i is self enforcing. legislation like this can only really work if it's what people want. that's why we would like to see a proper consultation before a final decision is made about which areas are smoke—free and which areas are smoke—free and which areas are smoke—free and which are not. this needs to be something we all discussed as a society and we agree on where it's right and where it's not right. it's right and where it's not ritht. , ., it's right and where it's not riuht. , . . ~ it's right and where it's not ritht. , ., ., ~' it's right and where it's not ritht. , ., ., ., right. deborah, thank you for our right. deborah, thank you for your time- — right. deborah, thank you for your time. let _ right. deborah, thank you for your time. let me _ right. deborah, thank you for your time. let me take i
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right. deborah, thank you for your time. let me take you i right. deborah, thank you for i your time. let me take you very shortly for me go to the york. the uk representative to the security council is speaking at the moment. we've been watching these pictures and they have been hearing from who experts on the situation in gaza, where polio is starting to spread, they are detecting it through they are detecting it through the sewage system and want to get in there to put an extensive vaccination programme in place. we'll keep you up—to—date with that. with us. hello there. whilst it was a bit cooler and fresher today, most of us got to enjoy some warm sunshine. we have seen more cloud, though, earlier on pushing eastwards across scotland. that's been bringing some showers as well. those showers are going to retreat up towards the far north of the country, and the winds will drop. and the clearer skies will develop in most areas. a few mist and fog patches out to the west, and it's going to be quite chilly overnight. temperatures in scotland, northern ireland could be as low as 4—5 degrees, and 7—8 across england and wales. any mist and fog in the west will soon lift, and it's going
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to warm up in the sunshine. remaining showers in northern scotland move away. the winds will be light. cloud will develop over land, but around the coasts, with the sea breeze, it should be quite sunny. and a dry day, temperatures similar to those of today. perhaps a degree or so higher. 18 perhaps in scotland, northern ireland, 24 in the south—east of england. high pressure is with us at the end of the week, which is why it's so quiet, but it's not going to last long. it's moving away even into saturday, allowing that weather front to move up from the south. and that's going to bring with it more cloud northwards across england and wales, and there could be one or two showers as well, although many places will be dry. we've got more sunshine for the far north of england, scotland and northern ireland. the winds will be a bit stronger on saturday. an easterly breeze for england and wales, so some of these north sea coasts will be a bit cooler, but it should be a warmer day with more sunshine for scotland and northern ireland. temperatures in glasgow and london much the same. we will have more cloud in london until late on in the day. that cloud moves northwards overnight. the high pressure continues to
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pull away towards scandinavia. this weather front eventually arriving in the south—west, but ahead of that, we're going to draw up something a little bit warmer, more humid, but the potential of some storms. and we're drawing that cloud northwards into scotland and northern ireland. some sunshine for england and wales. we'll build up the cloud that will trigger a few thunderstorms during the latter part of the afternoon. quite warm and humid air coming up from the near continent, so temperatures could reach 26—27 degrees. may not be quite as warm on sunday in scotland and northern ireland with more cloud. so, over the weekend, much of the weekend will be dry, but as we head into the beginning of next week, pressure will be lower. we're going to find some wet weather on monday followed by quite a few showers on tuesday.
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