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to some undecided voters. and... rock starjon bon jovi is praised for helping to talk down a woman from the edge of a bridge. hello. we start in space — and history being made — more than half a century after neil armstrong became the first person, to walk on the moon. today, the billionaire jared isaacman became the first non—professional astronaut to walk in space. his first words as he stepped outside the resilience spacecracft were �*beautiful world'. he used the first privately—funded spacewalk to do mobility tests of the new type of spacesuit
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that will be at the forefront of the next generation of space exploration. our science correspondent pallab ghosh has the story. back at home we all have a lot of work to do but from - here, earth sure looks like a perfect world. . historic words for an historic moment. out comes the first private sector astronaut to walk in space. silhouetted in earth's orbit, billionaire jared isaacman paid millions of dollars for this experience. earlier, he was suiting up, as were the other three crew members. the capsulte has no air lock, so the entire spacecraft is in the vacuum of space once the doors opened. then, the all—important checks to make sure that the spacesuits don't leak. they'd been upgraded for the spacewalk, stronger and more flexible. the helmets have a heads up display, so they see how well their bodies are coping.
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then the air is taken out of the capsule, so the pressure inside matches what's outside. the hatch opens, and isaacman exits the spacecraft. there's not much to do outside apart from testing the suit, so he floats around and enjoys the view, before returning to the capsule. then it's the turn of mission specialist sarah gillis. she's trained for this moment for two years. we really are hoping to bring back this knowledge for the spacex team, of how does the suit perform? what did we really nail in the operation and in the training on the ground because this is a brand—new training programme for our spacex team. so i think we'll be doing a lot of data finding, fact—finding that we can then bring back to make future spacewalk operations or future suit design even better. it was 60 years ago that alexei leonov became the first person to walk in space. since then, it's only been astronauts working
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for government space agencies to have done this. until now. this is the first ever private sector crew to have walked in space. companies like spacex have done some things very differently. they've built lots and lots of hardware and they've done lots of testing and we've all seen amazing explosions, we've seen things go bang, but each time they've learned from that process. you know, this could be a significant step. it will be really exciting to see what happens with the next polaris mission, so there are two more to come, we believe, and what are going to be the milestones for that that are going to be addressed? i can't wait. the historic spacewalk now over, the crew's attention turns to carrying out experiments, before beginning theirjourney home in two days�* time. pallab ghosh, bbc news. seven astronauts over the years had describe what it is like a
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moment of seeing the earth looking down as it, space scientist dr hina khan highlighted the collaborative the collaborative effort that went into this historic spacewalk. those people but having seen the pictures, i can imagine what it feels like to have that feeling, to be out in the vastness of space. whilst this has been the privilege of a very select few, what is important to understand is that what has happened in orderfor them to get here, the development and technology taken to build these new spacesuits and experience that, it is a collaborative effort with lots of different people, hundreds of thousands, who have worked on this moment to get these individuals into this situation. tell me more about| the significance, the spacesuit is part about what we need, the next generation of space exploration, with missions to mars and elsewhere, but how do you see the significance of this, the first commercial
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spacewalk? two really interesting things and this is paving the way for what we all know is the return to the moon, moving on to mars and off planet habitats, and that is a clear objective for many different government agencies, nasa and the european space agency and the commercial flight environment, so the testing is really exciting and making sure that it has been a success but the broader context within the commercial space environment, it is allowing commercial industry bodies to be part of this journey. we talked earlier, one of the correspondents mentioned commercial space development is happening across the board, so it was the domain of a state run organisations but now individual industries and companies can build satellites and take the technology to space. this is another step and
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we are now into space flight as well as a spacesuit and all the details that are required to have individuals and people within the space domain, it is opening that up to a much broader environment. russian shelling has killed three ukrainians working for the international committee of the red cross and injured two others in a front line village in the donetsk region, according to the red cross, the team was preparing to distribute wood and coal briquettes in the village of viroliuvbika, north of donetsk city, to vulnerable households in preparation for the upcoming winter, when their vehicles were hit. our ukraine correspondent james waterhouse gave us more details. being struck in this way, is rare. a couple of months ago, we saw a vehicle belonging to the international company get here and this is certainly
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certainly looks like a severe situation. typical people have been injured, three killed as you say, as a team from the international red cross were giving out coal and fire to a village which really is close to the front line and when you are within 20 kilometres, there is always a looming threat of either drone or missile attacks or artillery strikes as well. here in the uk, the prime minister has described the health service as "broken but not beaten", after a review — commissioned by his government — concluded that the nhs in england was in "serious trouble". the report by lord darzi, who is a surgeon and former labour minister, highlights declining productivity and patients being put at risk by ballooning waits and "awful emergency services". despite the damning findings, keir starmer says there would be no extra money without reform, as our let's take a look at some of the findings in that report.
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because it found that if you turn up to a&e it's likely that 100 people could be in front of you. thousance avoidable deaths a year. and the last time the nhs met 62—day cancer treatment target was nine years ago, in 2015. let's speak with dr. andrew meyerson, a junior a&e doctor in east london and an active campaigner who advocates for better pay and working conditions forjunior doctors in the national health service. he's a member of the british medical association, the unite union and the campaign group sos nhs. welcome to the programme, do you share that overall assessment first of all from that report and for what sir keir starmer was saying earlier today? to keir starmer was saying earlier toda ? ., ., ., ~ today? to an extent, thank you very much _ today? to an extent, thank you very much for— today? to an extent, thank you very much for having _ today? to an extent, thank you very much for having me. - today? to an extent, thank you very much for having me. the | very much for having me. the results and conclusions that he came up with broadly are what most of us have known for quite some time. that the nhs has
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been defunded to a massive degree, we are talking about relative to france and germany who have lost a0 billion a year. over 70 billion relative to germany, we've not invested for a decade. that is because inaudible less government. additionally, the austerity of from 22 and oh onwards has had a devastating impact on the nhs, on public health and health of the nation. that means that because of that, we are a terrible place when coveted and also the lord are sticking to the conclusion as to why the nhs is not productive right now. while we are really straining to hit its targets. we haven't hit well in over a decade. all of that requires investment. that would be not hearing from the government. let me ask you, solutions as you see it because you clearly agree with the backdrop, that everything that
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was in there. in terms of the way forward, the premise there was a definite need to move from hospital gated community care. the last shift from sickness to preventative and digitising of the health service, in your view, are those part of the solution? i think such an extent, i think that they are part of the solution it is important for us to take everything to you, it is very important to go from a model that only treats that were sickness to one that i can actually prevent sickness in the first place. all of that is really important but all of that requires investment. if you look back ten years ago, when we hitting the target, the nhs still had because of massive funding. from labour, to their credit, with performing among the best of the world, ranked number one in the world, ranked number one in the world, ranked number one in the world ten years ago, and it
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is also not only that but is also the most efficient. with most of the gleason lot of money, if we have a decade of funding cuts, a decade of cutting fat. there is no more fat left to cut and we have £11] fat left to cut and we have £11.7 billion budget capital infrastructure that is an emergency that is to be fixed. let me come in with a question. so, it has to have more money in your view, notjust reform and give me an idea and people watching, what it is like with all of those pressures that you spoke about at the start of the answer, what it is like working their day—to—day amy, that precious? their day-to-day amy, that recious? ., ~ , precious? day-to-day amy, we are seeing _ precious? day-to-day amy, we are seeing hot _ precious? day-to-day amy, we are seeing hot some _ precious? day-to-day amy, we are seeing hot some hospitals. are seeing hot some hospitals are seeing hot some hospitals are doing better than others but there is very much a postcode lottery in this country in terms of the health care that you are able to access. fartoo care that you are able to access. far too many people dying prematurely from other
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illnesses because we don't have the opportunity to trick them and beyond that, record numbers of people are on sick leave because they can't work because they have illnesses and conditions that need to be fixed, but we can fix if things are working well. that, because of the decade of austerity, because of underfunding, because of underfunding, because of underfunding, because of covet back, we haven't been able to. we need to have an idle conversation about this and... we need to ask the wealthy to pay a bit more as they can, so that wealthy people when they get when they have a heart attack, they can get an ambulance because everybody deserves that. ~ . . . because everybody deserves that. ~ . ., ., ., because everybody deserves that. . ., ., ., that. we are at a time. you say that. we are at a time. you say that we need — that. we are at a time. you say that we need to _ that. we are at a time. you say that we need to start _ that. we are at a time. you say that we need to start a - that we need to start a conversation, that has already started. thank you very much a journalist. coming up on verified live — we'll speak to two undecided voters and a pollster — to get the latest state of the us presidential election. around the world and across the uk.
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this is bbc news.
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there are just 5a days till the us presidential election — and the focus is returning to the crucial swing states — now the tv debate is over. both the democrats and republicans are campaigning hard — with the polls incredibly tight in the swing states of pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin — according to the latest polling from our partners at cbs news. even more crucial in those states — are those still undecided — put nationally at between a% and 6%. so — let's talk to two of them. joining me now is university student noah malloy who is based in the city of milwaukee in wisconsin. and betsy fisher, a small business owner in carbondale, in colorado. thanks both of you for being
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with me. a question to both of you first of all, because we are surrounded by so much about the us election, there are so much campaigning can i ask you both how to get to the stage where you still haven't decided?— decided? sure, ithink inaudible _ decided? sure, ithink inaudible people - decided? sure, ithink. inaudible people should commercials and radio ads trying to get my vote. with little substance talk about policy, all these ads are mostly attack ads, or response to attack ads. there's just a lot of vitriol, even if you go back to i think looking at the debates and comparing them to older ones, it's very evident that we have lost a lot of civility. if you take a look at the 0bama and romney debate, they shake hands and dick
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exchange pleasantries and a lot of this is lost today. it seems like a different era. is it the same for you? do you almost phase out all of the inaudible noise as he is suggesting? i inaudible noise as he is suggesting?— inaudible noise as he is suggesting? inaudible noise as he is su~estin~? ., , ., suggesting? i do, because of the exact _ suggesting? i do, because of the exact same _ suggesting? i do, because of the exact same reason, - suggesting? i do, because of the exact same reason, i - suggesting? i do, because of. the exact same reason, i think much — the exact same reason, i think much of— the exact same reason, i think much of it_ the exact same reason, i think much of it is staged and much of it_ much of it is staged and much of it is— much of it is staged and much of it is coming from political parties _ of it is coming from political parties that don't actually represent me. i consider myself an independent, and i don't feel— an independent, and i don't feel that _ an independent, and i don't feel that either party actually represents policies that would be perfect for the country. i�*m be perfect for the country. i'm disappointed. _ be perfect for the country. i'm disappointed. i— be perfect for the country. in disappointed. i have a question for both of you then? did the debates move you closer? ida. for both of you then? did the debates move you closer? no, i thou~ht debates move you closer? no, i thought the _ debates move you closer? no, i thought the format _ debates move you closer? no, i thought the format was - debates move you closer? no, i thought the format was farcicall thought the format was farcical and so — thought the format was farcical and so i — thought the format was farcical and so i feel like it is not designed to inform voters. it is not — designed to inform voters. it is not designed to help either candidate actually put forward a really — candidate actually put forward a really coherent policy. i really— a really coherent policy. i really feel like it's what no one — really feel like it's what no
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one has_ really feel like it's what no one has said, it's a series of attacks_ one has said, it's a series of attacks and it's very depressing and demeaning to both— depressing and demeaning to both voters and candidates. others _ both voters and candidates. others who thought about the debate in terms of clarifying policy, issues, the candidate, you thought yeah that might be the way i might be tilting and that has convinced me? honestly, watching it make me move farther away from both. i feel like a lot of half answers were given, and a sound bite i heard was concepts of a plan. at this stage, if you are going to present us, your plan, you should have more than concept. a lot of buzz word, a lot of controversial issues, brought up. as she said, all of it reallyjust noise.- up. as she said, all of it reallyjust noise. really 'ust noise. so, no. is a lot of reallyjust noise. so, no. is a lot of talk— reallyjust noise. so, no. is a lot of talk and _ reallyjust noise. so, no. is a lot of talk and a _ reallyjust noise. so, no. is a lot of talk and a lot - reallyjust noise. so, no. is a lot of talk and a lot of - lot of talk and a lot of pundits and democrats to talk about just pundits and democrats to talk aboutjust be hugely important nature of this particular
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election and tracks democracy. all of that, does that feel like that? or the stage, do you think that you want to know more about actual policies? there are two pieces here. one, inaudible a particular one is the threats to free speech. i think that is actually a far bigger threat to democracy and any possible free speech so i'm anxious and listening to hear which candidates will absolutely positively guarantee our first amendment rights which are our only way to improve our country. then, secondly, i really care very much about immigration. i don't really get a sense that. find much about immigration. i don't really get a sense that.- really get a sense that. and a trum - , really get a sense that. and a trump, immigration - really get a sense that. and a | trump, immigration decreased and under the biden harris and miss _ and under the biden harris and miss trish_ and under the biden harris and miss trish and it has increased and not — miss trish and it has increased and not hearing nothing but those — and not hearing nothing but those things but those are my two biggest issues. i�*ve those things but those are my two biggest issues.— two biggest issues. i've only not two biggest issues. i've only . ot 22 two biggest issues. i've only got 22 more _ two biggest issues. i've only got 22 more questions, - two biggest issues. i've only got 22 more questions, do l two biggest issues. i've only i got 22 more questions, do you expect to make your mind up in
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the coming weeks because we hear of people who don't decide until they're in the voting booth. you think is a possibility that you could be one of those?— possibility that you could be one of those? certainly. yeah, i think there's _ one of those? certainly. yeah, i think there's a _ one of those? certainly. yeah, i think there's a lot _ one of those? certainly. yeah, i think there's a lot of - i think there's a lot of significance in being able to vote. i recognise that it is a privilege that not everybody has. so, if i'd got a where i would proverbially flip a coin to my confusion, i think there's a lot of people who would prefer that i am abstain. betty, final thoughts because we started by talking about just being all around you in terms of campaigning. just a question from here in london, and you end up talking to family and friends about politics, by the selection, or do you swerve it because america is so split? i'm very lucky that — america is so split? i'm very lucky that many _ america is so split? i'm very lucky that many my - america is so split? i'm very lucky that many my family . america is so split? i'm very lucky that many my family is open — lucky that many my family is open to— lucky that many my family is open to talking about it because we really have evolved
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our interest in america but my history— our interest in america but my history and future but i do try to talk— history and future but i do try to talk about it, i think it's so important and i try so hard to understand what other people are thinking and always to look for what — are thinking and always to look for what are we all care about? the myth — for what are we all care about? the myth is that we are so split— the myth is that we are so split and _ the myth is that we are so split and in some ways we are but in — split and in some ways we are but in some ways the vast majority _ but in some ways the vast majority of people have the same — majority of people have the same values and the same goals for america. that is tolerance and _ for america. that is tolerance and physical sanity and opportunity and agency. that is the story— opportunity and agency. that is the story that doesn't really -et the story that doesn't really get told. the story that doesn't really aet told. �* , , the story that doesn't really aet told. �*, , ., get told. it's been great talkin: get told. it's been great talking to _ get told. it's been great talking to you, - get told. it's been great l talking to you, fascinating listening to undecided voters on what might actually ships the answer to thank you for joining us here on bbc news. next back to speak to the poster brett lloyd who is president of non—partisan research firm, the bullfinch group. president the bullfinch group. a key area of research for him has been undecided voters. and naked have a conversation, just how important you think this election will be the
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undecideds?— this election will be the undecideds? �* , , undecideds? it's everything. if ou undecideds? it's everything. if you would _ undecideds? it's everything. if you would ask _ undecideds? it's everything. if you would ask me _ undecideds? it's everything. if you would ask me who - undecideds? it's everything. if you would ask me who is - undecideds? it's everything. if| you would ask me who is going to win the election, i would say the person who candidate that can receive a plurality or majority of independent voters. i read an article you wrote say that lgbt plus voters will decide this 202a election, i was fascinated by that. why did you plan for that group? it wasn't to be selected a group out of a hat, it's that we were looking at the largest shift of voters from 2016 to 2020 and if either the lgbt plus community was that shift. so, we decided to do a study on that and it is a growing cohort in america but i don't think get studded very often but it's going to make up eight or 9% of our electorate. you're absolutely right because there was a lining piece that said those section of the voting public in that group is more significant and suburban than white mothers who you hear talked about all of the time
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when it comes to american politics but like any group, is not a group isn't it? the people vote in all different ways within that sector. that excessive — the cohesion is that it may be a hair, a thread more moderate or independent, i would probably say politically homeless. not being catered to by either one of the parties in the duopoly that we have in america. the duopoly that we have in america-— the duopoly that we have in america. , ., ., ., america. just a final thought then, kamala _ america. just a final thought then, kamala harris- america. just a final thought l then, kamala harris replacing joe biden against donald trump, how important is that a change do you think? of course, would be saw taylor swift supporting kamala harris and representing the lgbt community in a statement. how important you think that changes as well? i would say while important, whether harris is a phenomenal character of that or not, i think that could be decided but
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biden is stepping down was a good thing so harris being able to fill the shoes bring together the democrats before the dnc. that wildly important. a quick thought, in terms of swing states, which achieve pinpoint as being a possible one to flip from what we saw four years ago?— four years ago? michigan, pennsylvania _ four years ago? michigan, pennsylvania and - four years ago? michigan, j pennsylvania and georgia. four years ago? michigan, - pennsylvania and georgia. that is where i am focusing my attention. it is where i am focusing my attention-— is where i am focusing my attention. , ., ., ., attention. it is great to have ou on attention. it is great to have you on the _ attention. it is great to have you on the programme. - attention. it is great to have you on the programme. a i attention. it is great to have i you on the programme. a very fascinating areas of thanks for taking the time to join us your unverified life. thanks to the weight as well.— weight as well. thanks for havin: jon bonjovi has been praised by police, after he helped a woman in distress who had been standing on the ledge of a bridge. in a video released by the nashville police department, the singer can be seen talking to the woman and, once she is back on the walkway of the bridge, he embraces her in a hug. meghan owen has the story.
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the video, shared by nashville police, shows a woman in blue, highlighted in the left corner, standing precariously on the ledge of a pedestrian bridge over the cumberland river, hanging onto the railings. several people walk by. one woman glances back. a little further up, the rock starjon bonjovi can be seen arriving with a camera crew. according to posts on social media, he was shooting a music video on the bridge. he immediately walks over with a crew member, waves and leans on the railing. he calmly talks to the woman for less than a minute before the pair lift her over the railings back onto the bridge walkway. bonjovi continues to talk to the stranger before giving her a hug. they then leave the bridge together. the singer has been widely praised for his actions. it's really amazing to see. it's so good to see somebody approaching somebody they can see is really in desperate trouble and giving them that opportunity to talk. that opportunity to share what's going on for them,
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because it's never too late and there's always hope and that opportunity for somebody to save a life. nashville's police department added to the praise in a post on x, saying... in a brief statement, chiefjohn drake said, meghan owen, bbc news. and if you've been affected by either of our last two reports... you can find help and advice on the bbc action line — it's on our website, or via the bbc app. stay with us here on bbc news. have the very latest on that first nonprofessional astronaut in space and the rest of today's headline stories. all of that is coming up on bbc
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news. don't go away. cold but sunny start tomorrow morning and then the weather is going to change. right now, the wins have come from a long way north which is why it is so cold that as we head into the weekend, will be cut off the supply of cold air the wind is coming in from the lantern and temperatures ago to rise. today, with a mixture of sunshine and showers once again seen some heavy showers breaking out and low showers breaking out and low showers breaking out a little more widely through the afternoon. temperatures again 13 to 15 degrees below average for the time of year. not quite as windy this time. the winds continue to fall light of the night, the showers tend to fade away, keeping a few in the final of scotland and may be around some of those north sea coasts but clear skies, light winds, all point to a cold night. colderthan
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winds, all point to a cold night. colder than the last night, when they will have temperatures different below freezing and said his scotland. semi—as we head to the day and temperatures rise a little so there will be some developing so we not expecting showers this time. this rain coming into northern ireland is much slower. while supporting cloudy northern ireland, it will be we would see rain but it should be dry in scotland. still of the courtside here, temperatures will be a bit higherfor england and wales. and that area of high pressure keeping it dry. this low pressure heading towards iceland will steer these weather fronts toward scotland and northern ireland and strengthen the winds too. particularly windy in the far north—west of scotland. most of the rain there will be coming into northern ireland and western scotland through the day, england and wales may be seeing a bit more clout in the west, some sign in the east of england and temperatures rise to 20 degrees. across the whole of the uk, tebbit are going to
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be higher than what we're seeing at the moment which is good news. it would be as cold night either particularly as it runs southwards into england wales. it is running at higher pressures that they may not be an awful lot inaudible some rain in northern england, that will continue in wales may be the west midlands and towards the south—west. sunny skies in scotland and northern ireland it will be as windy but temperatures with up to 16 a bit warmer to in south—eastern part of england.
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deeper into the red. a warning from the government's official forecaster that the uk's national debt is set to triple over the next half century. cheaper borrowing for 350 million europeans. the region's central bank cuts interest rates by quarter of a percent. now it's over to the fed — will it do the same next week? more turbulence for boeing. 30,000 workers begin a vote on a new contract deal that could see them walk out on strike. and soaring above the competition. spacex aces the first ever private spacewalk — bolstering a $200 billion valuation for elon musk�*s rocket venture. welcome to business today,
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i'm lukwesa burak. we start here in the uk because the uk's national debt

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