hello, i'm martine croxall. sir keir starmer says talks with president biden in washington have been "wide—ranging" and "productive" but wouldn't say whether he'd persuaded the us to allow ukraine to fire long—range missiles into russia. president zelensky has repeatedly called for permission to use the weapons on targets across the border. he claims it is the only way to end the war. our political editor, chris mason, has sent this report from the white house. i think the next few weeks i and months could be crucial. what does president biden make of russia's threats against the west? i don't think much about vladimir putin. this is the blue room of the white house. the president, the prime minister and their teams spoke here for about an hour and a half. the war in ukraine dominated the conversation. afterwards, sir keir starmer wouldn't be drawn on whether

he'd persuaded the president that authorising ukraine to fire western missiles at russia was a good idea. instead, he said well, there's only one reason we're having these discussions, and that is because putin has illegally invaded ukraine. and the quickest way to resolve this obviously lies through, you know, what putin actually does, because it's for him to end this. but we are having the discussion. we've stood with ukraine. ukraine has a right to self—defence. and we've stood united, not just with our allies here in the us, but across with our nato allies. that's very, very important to us. these are the long range anglo—french missiles. ukraine would love to fire into russia, the uk making the argument to allies, it's a request that should be granted. they rely on american satellite systems to work. you might ask why the prime minister has been so keen to dash here, to visit a president who we know will be gone in just a few months time.

his answer is there are urgent issues that need addressing now, not least this question of missiles. the president has been sceptical about ukraine being able to fire them into russia, fearing it would be dangerous. this is the reality of the war grinding on in ukraine, a country desperate for ongoing help, its allies weighing up how best to do it and at what cost. chris mason, bbc news in washington. our north america correspondent, jenny kumah, had the latest from washington. we haven't had a huge amount of detail in terms of what was actually discussed, but there was a short statement that was issued and that said that the allies reaffirmed their unwavering support for ukraine. they also expressed deep concern about iran and north korea's provision of lethal weapons to russia, and china's support of russia's

defence industrial base. now, as we saw in chris's report, sir keir starmer gave a short interview after that meeting and he refused to be drawn on whether a decision had been made to lift those restrictions on enabling western missiles to strike deep into russia. and he insisted that the discussion was wide ranging, was about strategy and not about a specific capability. but for the western allies, it's a delicate balance between deciding the impact of inaction versus action, and also what russia's response would be to that. more now from our correspondent in kyiv, james waterhouse — who has more on how all this has been received in ukraine. you can be sure that there will

be continued disappointment because as far as president zelensky is concerned this is a continue pattern for ukraine they ask for support, the west fears rowson escalation and then finally relents. the question over how missiles are used as merely an extension of that. it seems that washington is worried about its own stockpile of weapons, and they also don't believe they'll make much of a difference. despite the uk prime minister saying they want to lead the way, it is the us that gives that kind of political cover for other allies to follow suit. it is disappointing for ukraine because it wants to use these missiles on russian airbases,

where as far as they're concerned, russian bombers take off, unchallenged, and repeatedly strike ukrainian cities. so i think we going to see an extension of political disappointment, if you like. let's speak to kurt volker, the former us ambassador to nato, as well as a former us special representative for ukraine. to what extent is ukrainian disappointmentjustified? disappointment justified 7 essentially were telling disappointment justified7 essentially were telling the ukrainians, don't hit back. that's an unacceptable position overall. and i think that is justified. what may happen here is that some of this may get loosened up behind the scenes. you may see the us not object

to the uk not object to the storm shadow being used. you may see some softening but not announced as the new policy. we still have the concern of the united states, that to allow the use of these weapons in this way, to target spots inside russia, would lead to an escalation. how likely is that? i think that is a narrative that russia has pushed and pushed in order to influence western behaviour. if putin were able to escalate today, he would. he's not holding back because we're not doing something. he's actually trying to destroy ukraine and he is not able to. i don't think he is wilfully holding back and doing only half measures, he is trying to wind this war and we

need to recognise that. the second is russia is not a victim here. no one should be concerned about ukraine defending itself by pushing back inside russia. it really makes no sense to say that it's not fair for ukraine to hit russia. ., . , russia. to what extent is it too late? — russia. to what extent is it too late? we _ russia. to what extent is it too late? we are _ russia. to what extent is it too late? we are told - russia. to what extent is it too late? we are told thatl too late? we are told that russia will have moved some of these potential targets so that there out of range?— these potential targets so that there out of range? there are a lot of targets — there out of range? there are a lot of targets that _ there out of range? there are a lot of targets that can't - there out of range? there are a lot of targets that can't be - lot of targets that can't be moved. airbases, distribution lines, these are things that are fixed. according to data there are well over 200 that can't be moved. in addition to that forcing russia to actually move things, to get away from where the potential strikes would be would be a benefit to ukraine. it would make it more

difficult, less predictable, for how russia can mount its attacks, so that's a wind. short of granting the permission that zelensky is seeking, how else can the west ulster ukraine7 seeking, how else can the west ulster ukraine? the seeking, how else can the west ulster ukraine?— ulster ukraine? the main thing that has been _ ulster ukraine? the main thing that has been discussed - ulster ukraine? the main thing that has been discussed is - ulster ukraine? the main thing that has been discussed is air l that has been discussed is air defence. air defence is the principal thing affecting the economy, the energy grid, the local population, transportation, everything is impacted by air defence. and what we need to do is increase our capacity is to assist ukraine with air defence. one of the things that should be done, and as soon as possible, is for the bordering states of poland and romania in particular, to ask ukraine if they can extend their own defence coverage into airspace,

in order to protect nato populations. just this week we saw russian strike a ship inside romanian economic waters. that is an unacceptable escalation by russia of attacks inside nato territory... two poles were killed last year form falling to brie. so it is reasonable... since president putin's full—scale invasion of ukraine more than 2 years ago, there's been a crackdown in russia on anyone expressing anti—war views. it's revived grim memories of the soviet past, when denouncing colleagues and neighbours was widespread. our russia editor, steve rosenberg, reports. nadezhda buyanova is a doctor,

but you'll find her in court, not the clinic. the 68—year—old paediatrician faces ten years in prison, accused of spreading fake news about the russian army. nadezhda tells me i read about this kind of thing happening to others, you know. i never imagined it would happen to me. the story began at this moscow medical centre. a patient�*s mother claimed that the doctor had told her russian soldiers in ukraine are legitimate targets. the woman recorded an angry video. her ex—husband had been killed fighting in ukraine. then she wrote this denunciation of the doctor to police. it was enough to put her on trial. 400 miles away. different trial same charges. near saint petersburg,

hairdresser anna alexandrova had fallen out with her neighbour irina over a plot of land in their village. their family feud led to anna being reported and accused of posting messages critical of the war in ukraine. she faces up to 15 years in prison. any regrets from the other side? i feel sorry for her, says irina's mother, natalia. i don't want her to get a long sentence. i want her to receive a just punishment, says irina. across the country, there are reports of russians informing on russians. one thing russia's war in ukraine has done here is turbocharge the hunt for internal enemies, for alleged traitors. and it's in this atmosphere of us against them that you get neighbour snitching on neighbour students informing on their teachers, professors on students and even

parishioners denouncing priests. but one thing stalin did not give them their freedom. . sounds familiar. and the soviet dictator joseph stalin denunciation was actively encouraged. the prison camps, the gulag, were full of victims who'd been snitched on by their fellow citizens. what i find really remarkable is how quickly russian genetic memory has come back. how things that people who didn't live in those times suddenly act as if they did. suddenly they are squealing on others. yes, it is a soviet practice, but it's also something about the russian genetic code, or fear of trying to protect themselves at the expense of others. and in this atmosphere, look what's happening. some russians are taking the law into their own hands. on a moscow bus, two men attack 87—year—old dmitri grinchy.

they say they overheard him insulting russian mercenaries fighting in ukraine. translation: he lunged at me, flashing his eyes and gnashing i his teeth as if he wanted to bite me. he called over his son, a big guy who pressed his finger into my arm to hurt me. i've got bruises here and here. the two men forced dmitri off the bus and dragged him to the police. he wasn't charged, but the incident has left dmitri shaken and angry. translation: the russian - constitution says that everyone has the right to free speech. why should others get to say what they think and not me? under stalin, dmitri's father was arrested and executed. an innocent man. russia's past is a painful one, but it's the present

that worries dmitri. with russia once again searching for enemies and agents and heading in a dangerous direction. steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow. to the us, where the fallout of tuesday's presidential debate between donald trump and kahmala harris is still being unpicked. but when will we know how and if it affected voters opinion7 anthony salvanto is polling director at our us news partners, cbs. i think it will be next week towards the end of next week, and i'll tell you why. first is, contextually, if you look at post—debate, immediate post—debate, polls from 2016, from 2020, past years, you've mentioned there have been times when you saw winners or perceived winners of debates, including the fact that in 2016, a lot of people thought that hillary clinton was winning some of those debates. and, ultimately, that

didn't pan out when election day rolled around. so those polls have some value, but its limited, number one. and number two, you have to remember that the audience for those debates is large, but it's often disproportionately older. and so as younger people, and we know they're getting their information from a lot of different sources, that's going to trickle out over days, there are going to be getting information from the internet, from family and friends, etc. so that takes a while to process. and that's why i think you want to see that measurement in a few days. but finally, let me say this. you know, there isn't a lot of room to move in this electorate, in our polling, the numbers of people that we think are persuadable by even the most generous measure is less than i in 10, and it may be smaller than that. so the question is, how many of those people are really watching to be moved in one direction or another? and frankly, that number is fairly small. we'll see. but that's the context.

meanwhile, pope francis has weighed in on the us election. speaking to journalists on a flight from singapore to indonesia, the pope said trump's stance on immigration, and harris�*s views on abortion, leave voters with a choice between the lesser of two evils. translation: both are against life, weather it is the one - that is chasing away migrants or the one that kills children. both are against life. i cannot decide, i cannot say. i'm not an american and i will not be voting there. expelling migrants, not giving them the possibility of working, not welcoming migrants, is a sin. it is grave. the ugandan olympic athlete, rebecca cheptegei, who was killed by a former boyfriend earlier this month, will be buried this morning in eastern uganda. the service will take place at herfamily�*s home town, bukwo. she will receive full military

honours, having been a member of the ugandan armed forces. the 33—year—old marathon runner, who competed in the paris games this year, died after being doused with petrol and set alight. her body was brought overnight from kenya, where she lived and trained. her death has renewed concern about the level of violence against women in kenya. herformer partner has since died of his injuries. let's speak to patience akumu, a ugandan lawyer who has campaigned on gender equality issues. what needs to be learned from rebecca's of violent death7 i rebecca's of violent death? i think in this moment of deep sorrow, we need to reflect on the way in which women no matter what their social status to, no matter what they've achieved in life, are still

expected to bend to the expectations of society, even if it kills them. this is the reality for many women, in africa it is the case that 42% of women face some sort of violence in their life. as an african women, every day, you are hassled. there is systematic discrimination against women, systematic control of women's bodies. laws in public places forbidding women to appear in certain ways. in kenya there are laws to protect the so—called family. there are laws to remind women that if they go astray they will perish.

rebecca reminds us that the stereotypes and expectations are still very real and very dangerous and women are suffering in silence, they are suffering in silence, they are suffering in silence, they are suffering in toxic relationships and paying with their lives.— their lives. what needs to change. _ their lives. what needs to change. if _ their lives. what needs to change, if laws _ their lives. what needs to change, if laws are - their lives. what needs to change, if laws are in - their lives. what needs to i change, if laws are in place, how much does this come to educating boys and men? it comes down to looking inwardly and asking ourselves, what are we telling boys, how are we raising boys, how are we raising boys, how are we raising girls. are we preparing girls to be willing victims. are we raising boys who are seeing women as equal people, who do not feel the need to dominate to the point of killing in order to feel like they are men enough. we need to

challenge the definition of an african man. to make it more inclusive, more empowering, more open to different expressions, different relationships, and to let men realise that women have achieved, they have survived violence, female genital mutilation, they should be ready to exist with the empowered women and not seek to dominate her. during the covid lockdown it became more common to order food shopping online and the trend has continued, whether it's for convenience, health reasons or because of transport issues. yet it seems the supermarkets are keeping the costs higher for online shoppers, making own—brand items unavailable, and charging them more than those who head in—store. our reporter simon spark has more. totally disappeared. lee is a loyal asda shopper.

he pays for their annual delivery pass so he can order his shop online and get it to his door, something he needs to do for his family. i'm a full time carer. i look after my wife and son so it's very difficult for us to get out. but recently he's been forced to pay more. for baked beans, about 27p per tin for the essentials. totally disappeared. next one is a2p or heinz. these are the items lee couldn't get online. lee's list includes apple sauce in store price 72p. cheapest online £1.70. baked beans in store 27p. online 42p. baked beans and sausages in store 50p. online 56p. instant coffee in store 99p. online £2.25. garden peas in store 28p. online 55p. new potatoes 38p in store, online 75p. so what should have cost £3.14 in store actually costs £6.23 online.

multiply that out by everything you can see in this picture. and that's a difference of over £29. it's affecting a lot of families, and other people out there with low incomes are forced to pay them bigger prices and we just can't afford it. but it seems asda are not the only supermarket being selective with what goes on their website, we've found that morrisons saver range has also gone missing. so we've brought lee's list and again, it was a similar story with all saver ranges in store, but not on the website, this time on five items. what should have cost £2.50 in store would cost customers £5.69 online, more than double. we also checked lee's list against tesco's and sainsbury�*s, but they did list their budget range online. in response, asda says they have one of the

and morrisons told us normally our shopping budget is about £50 a week, but that's gone up to £70, £80 now. it's completely unfair. simon spark, bbc news. india's prime minister, narendra modi, has been holding a huge rally in indian—administered kashmir ahead of key assembly elections. his visit to doda is the first by an indian prime minister in more than four decades. he told crowds his bjp government would grant full statehood to jammu and kashmir. the elections are the first in the territory since the removal of its special administrative status a decade ago. security operations have intensified in the disputed region in recent days amid a rise in clashes between

rebels and security forces. a former chief executive of the us fashion chain, abercrombie and fitch, is facing further allegations of sexually exploiting men at events he hosted around the world. mikejeffries and his british partner, matthew smith, are already defending a civil lawsuit which alleges they ran a sex—trafficking operation. twenty men have now told the bbc they attended or helped organise sex events for mrjeffries between 2009 and 2015. the fbi is also investigating. a lawyer for mrjeffries has previously said his client denied wrongdoing. mr smith has never responded to requests for comment. 7 a reminder of our top story — the uk prime minister's talks withjoe biden in washington have sir keir starmer said talks had been "wide ranging" and productive — but did not signal any decision on allowing ukraine to use long—range missiles to hit

targets inside russia. ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky has repeatedly called on kyiv�*s western allies to authorise their use — with president putin warning that such a decision would represent nato's "direct participation" in the ukraine war. stay with us here on bbc news. hello. today certainly dawned on quite a chilly note. across some southern areas. we had temperatures down in the low to mid single figures, but gradually through the course of the weekend we're going to be seeing those temperatures on the rise. so it will turn a little bit warmer. still some rain across some northern areas, particularly so for northern ireland and scotland today, down to the fact that we've got low pressure sitting out towards the northwest that will push this cold front gradually further east. but high pressure holds on further south, so plenty of dry, sunny weather for central and southern england. much of wales too. that cloud that we had this morning tending to break up into the afternoon.

eastern scotland holding on to some dry weather into the afternoon. but this band of rain will arrive across northern ireland and western scotland. the winds are going to pick up here too, and we're going to see temperatures generally in the mid to high. teens in the north could be 1920 degrees down towards the south and east into the evening hours, then still dry towards the south. we've got this band of cloud and patchy light rain clearing out of scotland and northern ireland, but that's going to be slow moving across northern england and north wales to start the day, most of us reasonably mild, still a little bit chilly overnight in the south. we're getting down into single figures again, but not quite as cold as it's been over the past few nights here. so sunday's weather, that band of cloud and slow moving on and off. patchy rain across northern england, north wales at times. to either side of that, things are looking drier and brighter. there'll be a rash of showers just drifting gradually eastwards across scotland, but they should clear away fairly quickly. so an improved day compared to today. more sunshine here and in the sunshine down towards east anglia and the southeast 20 or 21 degrees. but for most of us, i think we'll be in the high teens.

now heading on into the new working week and high pressure very much going to be dominating our weather right across the british isles. so monday, not much weather on the map. as you can see. we will have a little bit of mist, cloud and low fog here and there, but that should gradually lift and clear away. so some long spells of blue sky. lighter winds than it has been as well, so it's going to feel really pleasant. 2021 degrees in the south. further north, we're still looking at the mid to high teens on monday, but those temperatures will increase into the middle of the week as weather fronts are kept at bay. and we're going to be seeing the winds increasingly coming in from an easterly direction, bringing us these orange colours. you can see this milder air mass, especially for central and southern areas. so looking ahead then we're going to see temperatures in the south up to possibly the mid 20s through the middle part of the week, typically the high teens, low 20s further north. but for all of us, a largely dry, settled spell of weather with some sunshine on the cards. bye for now.

this is bbc news, the headlines: the leaders of the united states and britain speak of the importance of ukraine winning its war with russia during talks at the white house. but president biden and keir starmer give no sign of changing their policy not to allow kyiv to fire western long—range missiles into russia. a former chief executive of the us fashion chain, abercrombie and fitch, faces further allegations of sexually exploiting men at events he hosted around the world. the funeral for olympic athlete, rebecca cheptegei begins in uganda.

she was killed after being set on fire by a former boyfriend. there are calls to name a road and sports venue after her. the liberal democrat party conference begins here in the uk. it's the first time party members have come together since winning 72 parliamentary seats injuly�*s election. we'll be live in brighton. party conference season is kicking off with the liberal democrat's conference in brighton. it's the first time they've come together since winning 72 seats in parliament — a record for the party. they want to use their parliamentary presence to call for urgent measures to tackle the nhs crisis and improve social care. our political correspondent hannah miller has more. the lib dems are arriving in brighton in a mood that matches the weather. # sweet caroline... after celebrating their best

ever general election results,