the us media has now named the suspect. he is ryan wesley routh off, he is 58 years old, from the state of hawaii. donald trump — we are told by his campaign spokesman — is safe — his motorcade could be seen leaving west palm beach in the last few hours. president biden says he has directed his team to ensure the secret service has the �*resources to ensure trump's safety�*. hello and welcome to the programme. i'm lucy hockings in washington, dc. let �*s bring you right up to date with what is happening right now with the attempted assassination on donald trump. the fbi says they're investigating what appears to be an attempted assassination against donald trump. shots were fired in his vicinity on his palm beach golf course in florida

while he was playing. it's understood secret service agents opened fire on a suspect, who then fled the scene by car. donald trump's campaign released a statement in which the former president says: the campaign has quoted him that says he is never going to give up and his resolve is only stronger after what he called another attempt on my life. we have an image to show you, an image of the moment when security services surrounded the suspect. it has been released and we can show it to you here now. he was detained in martin county by the sheriff's office

on the northbound area of interstate 95 — following an alert which told officers to be "on the lookout" for a vehicle seen leaving the golf course in palm beach county. us media have named his as ryan routh, a 58—year—old from hawaii. and there are more details emerging about the suspect — including reports that he was deeply involved in efforts to get foreign fighters into ukraine to battle against the russian army. but first here's the palm beach county sheriff our bbc verify team is working on it so we can bring you the very latest on the suspect. but bringing you back to the very detailed post conference we had from all of the security forces who are involved now. the fbi, the secret service and also the local sheriff stop here he is explaining just what unfolded. at 1:30pm, a call come out — shots fired — called in by the secret service.

because we're in constant contact with them all the time, we were notified of that and we had units here that immediately sealed up the area. fortunately we were able to locate a witness that came to us and said, "hey, i saw the guy running out of the bushes, hejumped into a black nissan and i took a picture of the vehicle and the tag, which was great. so, we had that information. our real—time crime centre put it out to the licence plate readers, and we were able to get a hit on that vehicle on i95 as it was headed into martin county. we got a hold of martin county sheriff's office, alerted them, and they spotted the vehicle and pulled it over and detained the guy. after that, we took the victim — i'm sorry, the witness that witnessed the incident — took, flew him up there, and he identified

as the person that he saw running out of the bushes thatjumped into the car. now, in the bushes where this guy was is an ak—lfl style rifle with a scope, two backpacks which were hung on the fence that had ceramic tile in them and a go pro which he was going to take pictures of. so, those are being processed right now. the secret service agent that was on the course did a fantasticjob. what they do is, they have an agent thatjumps one hole ahead of time to where the president was at, and he was able to spot this rifle barrel sticking out of the fence and immediately engaged that individual, at which time the individual took off. so that's what we know about the investigation. we have somebody in custody right now. it is a potential suspect, we got a little bit more work

to do on it, but as we usually do, as soon as we decide we are going to book them into the county jail, and the charges he's going to be booked into, we'll get those to you and we'll get a picture of him and we'll get you his background. we've also heard from vice president kamala harris. in a short statement, she said that she had been briefed on the incident. she has expressed relief over the safety of her opponent. she says �*violence has no place in america�*. ican i can also bring you just some of president biden �*s statement as well. he hasjust of president biden �*s statement as well. he has just issued of president biden �*s statement as well. he hasjust issued one and says he is relieved the former president is unharmed. " he also reiterated there is no place for political violence or any kind of violence in this country and also said he had directed his team to continue to ensure that secret service agents had every resource, capability and protective measure that is necessary to ensure the former president �*s continued safety. we�*re going to get lots of opinions and views for you on what happened

and this is another incident that has shocked lots of people across america. other people are saying this as a result of some of the political divisions we�*re seeing here and maybe this kind of violence is a new reality for people in america was not we�*ve got with us tonightjulia manchester, a tonight julia manchester, a political tonightjulia manchester, a political reporter at the hill. joseph moreno is a former us federal prosecutor, and barry donadio is a former secret service agent. looking forward to talking to you all but first, let �*s find out what is happening at the scene and joined cvs corresponded cristian benavides who is outside the golf club in west palm beach. firstly, what is happening there at the moment? fist is happening there at the moment?— is happening there at the moment? �* , ,., moment? at this point the road in front of— moment? at this point the road in front of trump _ moment? at this point the road in front of trump international. in front of trump international golf course remains closed and there is a perimeter around the golf course and you have to go to a checkpoint even get to whether media has been staged this moment. we had that very detailed press conference. it is not always that you have all of these details laid out for

everyone to know an incident like this so what do we know, how did this happen? all of this happened about eight hours ago. officials say that a secret service agent who was ahead of the former president on the golf course, as mr trump was golfing, there was a secret service agent that was ahead, about two holes ahead according to officials. he was looking at the grounds and spotted someone who had a rifle, he engaged with the suspect and at that point the suspect apparently ran out from the bushes into the street. at that point a suspect spots him, sees him jumping into a vehicle, writes down the tag number of that vehicle and a description of the vehicle, a black nissan. he then hands over that tag number and that license plate number and that license plate number and information about the vehicle to police. that individual is then stopped on the highway, a major highway

here, interstate 95. he was heading north, heading into anotherjurisdiction, when he another jurisdiction, when he was anotherjurisdiction, when he was stopped at some point, the witness is brought over to get a look at the individual that is in custody and he confirms thatis is in custody and he confirms that is the individual that he saw running out from the golf course right here but clearly just such a troubling incident. a second assassination attempt on former president donald trump, truly incredible that that witness was able to see the license plate and hand lead over to officials so that they would be able to get that manager custody. cristian, a hue manager custody. cristian, a huge amount— manager custody. cristian, a huge amount of— manager custody. cristian, a huge amount of praise - manager custody. cristian, a huge amount of praise that i huge amount of praise that witness right across the spectrum at the moment but we have a team, a bbc verify team, looking into the profile online of ryan rolfe. what have your colleagues been able to find out about him? —— everybody is

combing through what he has been posting online.- combing through what he has been posting online. what we have been _ been posting online. what we have been able _ been posting online. what we have been able to _ been posting online. what we have been able to confirm - been posting online. what we have been able to confirm is i have been able to confirm is his background, his identity, we understand he has also had some sort of contact with law enforcement —— cristian. —— ryan routh. it is unclear whether he had prior runnings with police or a criminal record but what we know is that law enforcement in some way were aware of this individual. another interesting point here is that they were able to recover ak—lfl style rifle and along with that there were also two backpacks and apparently a gopro, that accompany those things, that officials were able to recover from where they believe he was hiding in the bushes. , ., believe he was hiding in the bushes. , . ., ., bushes. cristian, great to get that update — bushes. cristian, great to get that update again _ bushes. cristian, great to get that update again from - bushes. cristian, great to get that update again from you. i that update again from you. thank you so much. let �*s talk

to the panel we have with us this evening. julia manchester is a political reporter at the hill, joseph moreno is a former us federal prosecutor, and barry donadio is a former secret service agent. barry, perhaps i should start with you, a lot of praise from the secret service this evening. particularly they were heavily criticised after the first assassination attempt on donald trump �*s life. what are your thoughts on how they operated this evening and their actions? , ., ., actions? first and foremost, raise actions? first and foremost, praise to _ actions? first and foremost, praise to the _ actions? first and foremost, praise to the secret - actions? first and foremost, praise to the secret service. j praise to the secret service. they saved the former president �*s life. they dealt with the threat and save the president �*s life and evacuated him and kept him safe and not only that they caught the bad guy so arrests are going to be up to congress to figure out what happened. the fbi to investigate, and it is going to be a lot to learn coming up in the next couple of weeks.

joseph, we were hearing in florida about some of the evidence they were able to collect from the scene but they do have a gold mine of forensic evidence now to take this prosecution forward, it sounds like. be prosecution forward, it sounds like. �* ., prosecution forward, it sounds like. �* . , ., prosecution forward, it sounds like. . , ., ., like. be a little hesitant to “um to like. be a little hesitant to jump to conclusions - like. be a little hesitant to jump to conclusions here. | jump to conclusions here. evidence _ jump to conclusions here. evidence will trickle out but this— evidence will trickle out but this is— evidence will trickle out but this is an _ evidence will trickle out but this is an investigative phase right— this is an investigative phase right now so i would only really _ right now so i would only really trust what we're from official _ really trust what we're from official reports, not what you see on — official reports, not what you see on social media, but yes, based — see on social media, but yes, based on _ see on social media, but yes, based on what we know, the secret — based on what we know, the secret service did an excellent 'ob secret service did an excellent job as — secret service did an excellent job as well as the florida deputy— job as well as the florida deputy that stops this suspect and as— deputy that stops this suspect and as far as charges, yes, we have _ and as far as charges, yes, we have a — and as far as charges, yes, we have a two— and as far as charges, yes, we have a two tiered system, federai— have a two tiered system, federal and state charges, that are possible here. some combination of attempted murder, to criminal trespass, firearms _ murder, to criminal trespass, firearms charges will likely be a federal crime primarily but it doesnt— a federal crime primarily but it doesn't sound like it is going _ it doesn't sound like it is going to _ it doesn't sound like it is going to be difficult, i think that— going to be difficult, i think that one _ going to be difficult, i think that one major issue will be to find out — that one major issue will be to find out if— that one major issue will be to find out if he was working with anyone — find out if he was working with anyone stop whether it was a

conspiracy, orwhether anyone stop whether it was a conspiracy, or whether he was truly— conspiracy, or whether he was truly a — conspiracy, or whether he was truly a loan government. i would _ truly a loan government. i would say that it least in a few — would say that it least in a few days _ would say that it least in a few days we will really know what — few days we will really know what happened here.- few days we will really know what happened here. julia, we have heard — what happened here. julia, we have heard from _ what happened here. julia, we have heard from the _ what happened here. julia, we have heard from the trump i have heard from the trump campaign team and also his children have quickly gone on fox news. his boys talking about their father surviving another assassination attempt. take us through the reaction we have had. ~ ., ., ., have had. what we have heard from those _ have had. what we have heard from those republicans - have had. what we have heard from those republicans and i from those republicans and trump — from those republicans and trump supporter— from those republicans and trump supporter is - from those republicans and trump supporter is his- trump supporter is his condemnation - trump supporter is his condemnation of- trump supporter is his condemnation of an i trump supporter is his- condemnation of an uptake of political— condemnation of an uptake of political rhetoric. _ condemnation of an uptake of political rhetoric. they - condemnation of an uptake of political rhetoric. they say - condemnation of an uptake of political rhetoric. they say it i political rhetoric. they say it is coming _ political rhetoric. they say it is coming from _ political rhetoric. they say it is coming from the - political rhetoric. they say it is coming from the left. - political rhetoric. they say iti is coming from the left. they are particularly— is coming from the left. they are particularly blaming - is coming from the left. they are particularly blaming the i are particularly blaming the left for— are particularly blaming the left for following _ are particularly blaming the left for following that - are particularly blaming thei left for following that calling trump — left for following that calling trump a _ left for following that calling trump a threat _ left for following that calling trump a threat to _ left for following that callingi trump a threat to democracy, but also — trump a threat to democracy, but also talking _ trump a threat to democracy, but also talking about - trump a threat to democracy, but also talking about this - trump a threat to democracy, but also talking about this is i but also talking about this is a second _ but also talking about this is a second assassination - but also talking about this is i a second assassination attempt on his— a second assassination attempt on his life — a second assassination attempt on his life and _ a second assassination attempt on his life and how— a second assassination attempt| on his life and how remarkable, obviously— on his life and how remarkable, obviously in _ on his life and how remarkable, obviously in a _ on his life and how remarkable, obviously in a very— on his life and how remarkable, obviously in a very negative - obviously in a very negative way, — obviously in a very negative way, this— obviously in a very negative way. this is _ obviously in a very negative way, this is. on _ obviously in a very negative way, this is. on the - obviously in a very negative way, this is. on the other. obviously in a very negative i way, this is. on the other side of this, — way, this is. on the other side of this, though, _ way, this is. on the other side of this, though, you _ way, this is. on the other side of this, though, you have i of this, though, you have democrats _ of this, though, you have democrats coming - of this, though, you have democrats coming out i of this, though, you have.

democrats coming out and of this, though, you have - democrats coming out and also saying — democrats coming out and also saying the _ democrats coming out and also saying the white _ democrats coming out and also saying the white house, - democrats coming out and alsol saying the white house, saying, expressing — saying the white house, saying, expressing kamala _ saying the white house, saying, expressing kamala harris - saying the white house, saying, expressing kamala harris and i expressing kamala harris and joe biden— expressing kamala harris and joe biden 's_ expressing kamala harris and joe biden 's relief— expressing kamala harris and joe biden 's relief that - expressing kamala harris andj joe biden 's relief that donald trump — joe biden 's relief that donald trump is _ joe biden 's relief that donald trump is safe _ joe biden 's relief that donald trump is safe following - joe biden 's relief that donald trump is safe following this i trump is safe following this assassination— trump is safe following this assassination attempt- trump is safe following this assassination attempt and i assassination attempt and kamala _ assassination attempt and kamala harris _ assassination attempt and kamala harris saying i assassination attempt and | kamala harris saying there assassination attempt and i kamala harris saying there is no place _ kamala harris saying there is no place for— kamala harris saying there is no place for political - 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published —— as much as you possibly can under the law. i possibly can under the law. there — possibly can under the law. there is— possibly can under the law. there is certainly— possibly can under the law. there is certainly a - possibly can under the law. there is certainly a lot i possibly can under the law. there is certainly a lot of i there is certainly a lot of politics _ there is certainly a lot of politics at _ there is certainly a lot of politics at play— there is certainly a lot of politics at play here i there is certainly a lot of politics at play here and i politics at play here and oftentimes _ politics at play here and oftentimes we - politics at play here and oftentimes we hear- politics at play here and i oftentimes we hear after any incident _ oftentimes we hear after any incident like _ oftentimes we hear after any incident like this _ oftentimes we hear after any incident like this involving i incident like this involving political— incident like this involving political violence, - incident like this involving political violence, but i political violence, but particularly _ political violence, but particularly after i political violence, but particularly after that | political violence, but i particularly after that first assassination— particularly after that first assassination attempt i particularly after that first i assassination attempt against trump, — assassination attempt against trump, just— assassination attempt against trump, just over— assassination attempt against trump, just over a _ assassination attempt against trump, just over a month- assassination attempt againstl trump, just over a month ago, or roughly— trump, just over a month ago, or roughly two _ trump, just over a month ago, or roughly two months - trump, just over a month ago, or roughly two months ago, i trump, just over a month ago, i or roughly two months ago, this call for— or roughly two months ago, this call for a — or roughly two months ago, this call for a toned _ or roughly two months ago, this call for a toned down _ or roughly two months ago, this call for a toned down of - call for a toned down of political— call for a toned down of political rhetoric - call for a toned down of political rhetoric or- call for a toned down of i political rhetoric or toning down _ political rhetoric or toning down that— political rhetoric or toning down that rhetoric. - political rhetoric or toning down that rhetoric. thosej political rhetoric or toning i down that rhetoric. those calls only— down that rhetoric. those calls only lasted _ down that rhetoric. those calls only lasted for _ down that rhetoric. those calls only lasted for a _ down that rhetoric. those calls only lasted for a few— down that rhetoric. those calls only lasted for a few days. i. only lasted for a few days. i think— only lasted for a few days. i think part _ only lasted for a few days. i think part of— only lasted for a few days. i think part of that _ only lasted for a few days. i think part of that is - only lasted for a few days. i| think part of that is because we are — think part of that is because we are in— think part of that is because we are in a _ think part of that is because we are in a polarised - we are in a polarised environment - we are in a polarised environment here i we are in a polarised environment here in| we are in a polarised i environment here in this country. _ environment here in this

country, but _ environment here in this country, but we - environment here in this country, but we are i environment here in this country, but we are just| environment here in this i country, but we are just so incredibly— country, but we are just so incredibly close _ country, but we are just so incredibly close to - country, but we are just so incredibly close to an - incredibly close to an election. _ incredibly close to an election. who- incredibly close to an election. who knows| incredibly close to an i election. who knows what incredibly close to an - election. who knows what this conversation _ election. who knows what this conversation surrounding i election. who knows what this conversation surrounding thisl conversation surrounding this assassination— conversation surrounding this assassination attempt- conversation surrounding this| assassination attempt against trump — assassination attempt against trump will— assassination attempt against trump will look— assassination attempt against trump will look like _ assassination attempt against trump will look like in - assassination attempt against trump will look like in the i trump will look like in the context_ trump will look like in the context of— trump will look like in the context of the _ trump will look like in the context of the campaign l trump will look like in the i context of the campaign trail going — context of the campaign trail going forward _ context of the campaign trail going forward.— context of the campaign trail going forward. barry, coming back to you. _ going forward. barry, coming back to you, because - going forward. barry, coming back to you, because we - going forward. barry, coming back to you, because we will| going forward. barry, coming i back to you, because we will be mulling back over this route some time as we see the edges from the sheriff. but i want to get your insights into the actions of that one secret service agent. he is ahead of donald trump. he is scanning the bushes and the golf course and he sees that ak—lr7 poking up and he sees that ak—lr7 poking up out of the bush. how remarkable is that moment that he managed to stop that? how difficult is it to be that alert and conscious of what is in your sight alert and conscious of what is in yoursight line and alert and conscious of what is in your sight line and what is going on? it in your sight line and what is going on?— in your sight line and what is auoin on? , ., . i, going on? it is a life changing event for _ going on? it is a life changing event for the _ going on? it is a life changing event for the agent _ going on? it is a life changing event for the agent as - going on? it is a life changing event for the agent as well i going on? it is a life changing event for the agent as well as the former president donald trump. the agent doesn't have much time to deal with a rifle pointed at him which probably

pointed at him which probably pointed either in his direction or add other officers or agents. he had to react quickly to i imagine he didn't even have time to get on the radio. he probably drew his weapon, gave voice commands to the person with a rifle to drop the weapon, when there was non—compliance, he probably fired right away immediately because that is exactly what i would have done. the president probably sheltered in an armoured location, armoured vehicle or a safe place, and the rest of the agents probably pursued the man with the rifle as well. , i, pursued the man with the rifle as well. , ., ., ., as well. great to get that insight. _ as well. great to get that insight, barry. _ as well. great to get that insight, barry. i- as well. great to get that insight, barry. i hope- as well. great to get that | insight, barry. i hope you as well. great to get that - insight, barry. i hope you can all stay with us, julia, barry and joseph. 20 more to talk about after the break. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. —— plenty more to talk about after the

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welcome back to washington, dc as we continue to bring new breaking news coverage of the second assassination attempt on the life of the former president donald trump in florida at one of his golf resorts. we've been talking to a range of experts who are still with us. julia manchester, barry donadio and alsojoseph moreno was a us federal prosecutor and a national security analyst. joseph, if i could return to you now, how much do you think this second attempt on donald trump �*s life is going to have to change the calculation around protecting these big political figures?— political figures? lucy, i think politicalfigures? lucy, i think we _ politicalfigures? lucy, i think we have _ politicalfigures? lucy, i think we have to - politicalfigures? lucy, i think we have to see - political figures? lucy, i | think we have to see the reality— think we have to see the reality here. this is a pattern that — reality here. this is a pattern that we — reality here. this is a pattern that we can't let continue and whether— that we can't let continue and whether it is a question of resources, whether it is a question— resources, whether it is a question of decision—making as far as _ question of decision—making as far as what is allocated to a former— far as what is allocated to a former president versus a current— former president versus a current president, candidate, i think— current president, candidate, i think really have to make some tough _ think really have to make some tough decisions but i can't help— tough decisions but i can't help but— tough decisions but i can't help but wonder what is like— the atmosphere very much is who

is in charge — the atmosphere very much is who is in charge here? where is the president? _ is in charge here? where is the president? where is the vice president? where is the vice president? where is the attorney general? was the secretary of homeland security? this happened eight hours ago and we — this happened eight hours ago and we only received a written statement from joe biden 20 n1inutes— statement from joe biden 20 minutes ago. kamala harris issued — minutes ago. kamala harris issued a _ minutes ago. kamala harris issued a tweet this afternoon. this— issued a tweet this afternoon. this is— issued a tweet this afternoon. this is very much a sense here that— this is very much a sense here that no-one _ this is very much a sense here that no—one is in charge so i think— that no—one is in charge so i think before we get into the tactical— think before we get into the tactical level of what is to be done, — tactical level of what is to be done, we _ tactical level of what is to be done, we need to take a step back— done, we need to take a step back and _ done, we need to take a step back and say, wait a minute, there — back and say, wait a minute, there doesn't seem to be anybody at control here and with — anybody at control here and with the _ anybody at control here and with the absence of leadership, this is— with the absence of leadership, this is actually what happens. things— this is actually what happens. things break down and there is no accountability. can things break down and there is no accountability.— no accountability. can i bring ou no accountability. can i bring you there — no accountability. can i bring you there in _ no accountability. can i bring you there in on _ no accountability. can i bring you there in on that, - no accountability. can i bring you there in on that, julia, . you there in on that, julia, because president biden did say in his statement that he has just released in the past half—an—hour or so that donald trump — he would make sure all the resources were available to protect the president but what else have we heard from senior figures and the administration? that is about what we're hearing that point. talking and hearing that point. talking and hearing kamala harris saying she has been briefed, that she

is monitoring the administration. joe biden saying essentially the same thing, that they are making these resources available. but i think asjoseph mentioned before, we haven't heard too much from the biden administration on this. part of that could be a calculation as to, you know, they want to make sure they have as much information as they can before they make more of a public statement before they make a statement before they make a statement on camera, a press conference or a statement to reporters at the white house. we will see stop we could potentially see that tomorrow. but, you know, they are being very cautious right now. this is also happening, i think, amid the backdrop of a political campaign and the fact that kamala harris is running againstjob — donald trump for the presidency. so i'm not saying that is why they are being quiet but it really adds layers in this dynamic that we are seeing of trump and

republicans very much putting this blame, in a way, on democrats for their heightened rhetoric. that being said, we don't know the motive of —— this suspect at the moment but at the moment the biden administration being very cautious in how they are approaching this.- cautious in how they are approaching this. barry, how much of a — approaching this. barry, how much of a stranger _ approaching this. barry, how much of a stranger using - approaching this. barry, how much of a stranger using all| approaching this. barry, how i much of a stranger using all of puts on the secret service, already under intense pressure after the last assassination attempt. is this going to really put them under increased pressure and strain now? i think it will get some more questions to be asked. there is going to be more leadership, going to be more leadership, going to be more leadership, going to be more questions of where the resources are. we all have to understand that there is a difference between the sitting president and a presidential candidate and even a former president. they get different packages, different levels of security, but i think right now at this moment in time in history, we now have to

re—evaluate — should all these candidates, including the president, or get the same presidential protective package? i think that is probably going to have to be the answer. it is just too tense right now where —— we are in the most tense time in us history in my lifetime as far as democracy and self being endangered because of conspiracy theories or one side believing one thing on the other side believing the other. the government �*s going to have to rein ms allin. extremely transparent in everything, release every bit of everything —— rain this allin. they certainly don't want conspiracy theories. it is a complex and a new problem and we are in the forefront of a new realm of presidential protection, as i see it. y ., , ,

presidential protection, as i seeit., y see it. joseph, barry there was 'ust see it. joseph, barry there was just raising _ see it. joseph, barry there was just raising the _ see it. joseph, barry there was just raising the issue _ see it. joseph, barry there was just raising the issue of- just raising the issue of conspiracy theories and the impact that they have and the extra level of the vigilance thatis extra level of the vigilance that is required because of conspiracy theories. how concerning do you think it is that one of the bits of evidence that the fbi now have is this gopro that was in the backpack that the suspect clearly in some way intended to film what was happening and perhaps use it for his own propaganda purposes? because that is what — propaganda purposes? because that is what i _ propaganda purposes? because that is what i said _ propaganda purposes? because that is what i said earlier - that is what i said earlier with— that is what i said earlier with being careful with what we believe — with being careful with what we believe in the early hours after _ believe in the early hours after something like this. i have — after something like this. i have no— after something like this. i have no doubt it will be investigated orally and i think it witi— investigated orally and i think it will take some time but we will get — it will take some time but we will get the information out. going — will get the information out. going back to a point that jutia — going back to a point that julia made earlier and she worded _ julia made earlier and she worded it very carefully, but i have — worded it very carefully, but i have to — worded it very carefully, but i have to say, look, i know the politically— have to say, look, i know the politically correct thing is to say that _ politically correct thing is to say that things are toxic on both— say that things are toxic on both sides and they both need to come — both sides and they both need to come down the rhetoric but the fact— to come down the rhetoric but the fact of the matter is, took. _ the fact of the matter is, look, donald trump 's behaviour can he _ look, donald trump 's behaviour can be erratic, he can be look, donald trump 's behaviour can be erratic, he can he say ridiculous— can be erratic, he can he say ridiculous things but for eight years— ridiculous things but for eight years he _ ridiculous things but for eight years he has been called a russian _ years he has been called a russian plant, adolf hitler, a

fascist, — russian plant, adolf hitler, a fascist, he is going to destroy democracy so when you say that over _ democracy so when you say that over and — democracy so when you say that over and over and over again, you— over and over and over again, you are— over and over and over again, you are going to generate people — you are going to generate people that are going to do things— people that are going to do things like this. so sure, we witi— things like this. so sure, we will figure _ things like this. so sure, we will figure out what happened in butler pennsylvania and we will figure out hopefully what this individual 's motivations are, — this individual 's motivations are, trut— this individual 's motivations are, but at the end of the day, yes. _ are, but at the end of the day, yes, donald trump has some fautt — yes, donald trump has some fautt here _ yes, donald trump has some fault here about the things that— fault here about the things that he _ fault here about the things that he says but the amount of vitriot — that he says but the amount of vitriol that comes from the left — vitriol that comes from the left against him really, really needs— left against him really, really needs to _ left against him really, really needs to be toned down otherwise this is going to keep happening. otherwise this is going to keep happening-— happening. julia, i'm going to brina ou happening. julia, i'm going to bring you in — happening. julia, i'm going to bring you in here _ happening. julia, i'm going to bring you in here because - happening. julia, i'm going to bring you in here because i. bring you in here because i think the point would also have to be made that the criticism of donald trump and people on the right, republicans as well, about some of the rhetoric that they used was democrats. you know, in they used was democrats. you know. in this _ they used was democrats. you know, in this past _ they used was democrats. you know, in this past week is an example _ know, in this past week is an example of— know, in this past week is an example of this. _ know, in this past week is an example of this. not - example of this. not particularly- example of this. not particularly towardsl example of this. not _ particularly towards democrats but we've — particularly towards democrats but we've seen _ particularly towards democrats but we've seen it _ particularly towards democrats but we've seen it towards - but we've seen it towards immigrants— but we've seen it towards immigrants in— but we've seen it towards immigrants in particular, | but we've seen it towards i immigrants in particular, in particularly _ immigrants in particular, in particularly haitian- particularly haitian immigrants. - particularly haitian immigrants. 0n- particularly haitian- immigrants. on tuesday we particularly haitian— immigrants. on tuesday we heard fornrer— immigrants. on tuesday we heard former president— immigrants. on tuesday we heard former president trump _ former president trump essentially— former president trump essentially voice - former president trump

essentially voice these i essentially voice these unfounded _ essentially voice these unfounded base - essentially voice these unfounded base set i essentially voice these - unfounded base set conspiracy theories — unfounded base set conspiracy theories that— unfounded base set conspiracy theories that haitian _ theories that haitian immigrants - theories that haitian immigrants in- theories that haitian immigrants in ohio. theories that haitian . immigrants in ohio are theories that haitian - immigrants in ohio are eating cats— immigrants in ohio are eating catsand— immigrants in ohio are eating cats and that _ immigrants in ohio are eating cats and that might— immigrants in ohio are eating cats and that might seem - cats and that might seem completely— cats and that might seem completely bizarre - cats and that might seem completely bizarre wheni cats and that might seem j completely bizarre when i cats and that might seem - completely bizarre when i say that but — completely bizarre when i say that but we've _ completely bizarre when i say that but we've seen _ completely bizarre when i say that but we've seen the - that but we've seen the ramifications— that but we've seen the ramifications of- that but we've seen the ramifications of that - that but we've seen the i ramifications of that layout over— ramifications of that layout over this _ ramifications of that layout over this week. _ ramifications of that layout over this week. in - ramifications of that layout over this week. in fact - ramifications of that layout over this week. in fact just| over this week. in fact just today. _ over this week. in fact just today. two— over this week. in fact just today, two universities - over this week. in fact just today, two universities in. today, two universities in springfield, _ today, two universities in springfield, ohio- today, two universities in springfield, ohio area . today, two universities in. springfield, ohio area have today, two universities in- springfield, ohio area have had to shut — springfield, ohio area have had to shut down _ springfield, 0hio area have had to shut down their— springfield, ohio area have had to shut down their campuses i to shut down their campuses because _ to shut down their campuses because of— to shut down their campuses because of threatening - to shut down their campuses. because of threatening letters and e-maits _ because of threatening letters and e—mails they've _ because of threatening letters and e—mails they've received, j and e—mails they've received, and _ and e—mails they've received, and we — and e—mails they've received, and we have _ and e—mails they've received, and we have seen— and e—mails they've received, and we have seen that - and we have seen that springfield, _ and we have seen that springfield, ohio- and we have seen thatj springfield, ohio itself and we have seen that - springfield, ohio itself has -ot springfield, ohio itself has got a — springfield, 0hio itself has got a number— springfield, ohio itself has got a number of _ springfield, 0hio itself has got a number of bomb- springfield, ohio itself has- got a number of bomb threats. is got a number of bomb threats. is donatd — got a number of bomb threats. is donald trump— got a number of bomb threats. is donald trump the _ got a number of bomb threats. is donald trump the only - got a number of bomb threats. is donald trump the only one i is donald trump the only one voicing — is donald trump the only one voicing these _ is donald trump the only one voicing these conspiracy - voicing these conspiracy theories? _ voicing these conspiracy theories? no. _ voicing these conspiracy theories? no. this- voicing these conspiracy theories? no. this is i voicing these conspiracy - theories? no. this is something we've _ theories? no. this is something we've seen— theories? no. this is something we've seen on— theories? no. this is something we've seen on the _ theories? no. this is something we've seen on the fringes - theories? no. this is something we've seen on the fringes of- we've seen on the fringes of the far— we've seen on the fringes of the far right _ we've seen on the fringes of the far right over— we've seen on the fringes of the far right over the - we've seen on the fringes of the far right over the past. the far right over the past week— the far right over the past week or— the far right over the past week or so _ the far right over the past week or so. at _ the far right over the past week or so. at the - the far right over the past week or so. at the same i the far right over the past- week or so. at the same time, goes _ week or so. at the same time, goes to— week or so. at the same time, goes to show— week or so. at the same time, goes to show that _ week or so. at the same time, goes to show that on - week or so. at the same time, goes to show that on the - week or so. at the same time, goes to show that on the other side _ goes to show that on the other side we — goes to show that on the other side we are _ goes to show that on the other side we are seeing _ goes to show that on the other side we are seeing political- side we are seeing political violence _ side we are seeing political violence manifested - side we are seeing political violence manifested self. side we are seeing political violence manifested self inj violence manifested self in another— violence manifested self in another way, _ violence manifested self in another way, not - violence manifested self in i another way, not necessarily against — another way, not necessarily against political— another way, not necessarily against political figures - another way, not necessarily against political figures but i against political figures but against _ against political figures but against these _ against political figures but against these groups. - against these groups. absolutely _ against these groups. absolutely we've - against these groups. i absolutely we've heard against these groups. - absolutely we've heard this intensifying _ absolutely we've heard this intensifying rhetoric - absolutely we've heard this intensifying rhetoric from .

absolutely we've heard this i intensifying rhetoric from the left against _ intensifying rhetoric from the left against donald _ intensifying rhetoric from the left against donald trump, . left against donald trump, catting _ left against donald trump, calling him _ left against donald trump, calling him a _ left against donald trump, calling him a dictator, - left against donald trump, calling him a dictator, a i calling him a dictator, a threat _ calling him a dictator, a threat to— calling him a dictator, a threat to democracy. i calling him a dictator, a threat to democracy. julia, we're going _ threat to democracy. julia, we're going to _ threat to democracy. julia, we're going to have - threat to democracy. julia, we're going to have to - threat to democracy. julia, | we're going to have to leave threat to democracy. julia, . we're going to have to leave it there butjulia manchester, joseph moreno and agro too, thank you all of you very much forjoining us. and thank you forjoining us. and thank you for being wet —— and barry donadio. thank you for being with us on bbc news. hello, there. well, we've seen plenty of sunshine throughout the weekend, also a few outbreaks of rain for some, but that is the last of the wet weather that we'll see for quite a few days yet, because for much of next week, it's looking dry and settled. high pressure dominant, more sunshine and it will feel warmer by day and milder by night, too. just watch out for the possibility of some rather murky mornings, with mist and fog patches developing, especially where the winds stay light. now, here's that area of high pressure building in from the south west.

it's centred more or less right over the uk, as we head through monday, deflecting these low—pressure systems out towards the north and the west. now, as we head into monday morning itself, there'll be some mist and fog, particularly for north—west england, south—west scotland, perhaps. it's milder towards the south with that legacy of cloud for a while, coolest out towards the north and the east, but a whole range of temperatures as we start off the day. now, the mist and the fog will readily lift and clear as we head through the morning, and there'll be plenty of sunshine around, lots of blue skies. high cloud turning the sunshine hazy at times. more of a breeze out towards the far south and the east. we could see one or two very isolated showers for kent, but it's still unlikely. more cloud for northern ireland later on through the day, and temperatures in the high teens, the low 20s. 2i celsius for parts of central and eastern england — it's close to the seasonal average. and then, on tuesday, well, we could see any mist and fog, really, across parts of yorkshire, lincolnshire, down through the east midlands, more of a north—easterly wind for east anglia, south—east

england here, and a bit more in the way of cloud for northwest scotland, but with a southwesterly wind blowing, then, for parts of the moray firth, the highlands, temperatures could reach 21 or 22 celsius, so certainly feeling warm here. wednesday and thursday, our area of high pressure starts to meander further northwards and eastwards. it's still dry towards the north. towards the south, we'll see more of an easterly breeze take hold, but it is going to be feeling warm here. again, there's a more noticeable north—easterly blow. windy through the channel, perhaps, but 2a celsius in central southern england and south—east england, and again 21 or 22 celsius for those sheltered areas of scotland. so here's the outlook for our capital cities, then, as we head through the week. there's a lot of sunshine around. it's dry and it's settled. we could potentially see a few showers break out on friday. bye— bye.

boeing faces yet another setback as thousands of workers go on strike in seattle and portland. plus, we discuss the challenges facing the media industry with the boss of the wall streetjournal. thank you forjoining me on business today. we begin with boeing, where thousands of its workers went on strike on friday after union workers at the west

coast factories overwhelmingly rejected rejected a pay raise. this is how the company navigated the latest setback. certainly coming at a terrible time for the company because they really were trying to rejig their 737 production after the issues they had last year, so a real effort to undergo that, and also some critical issues around the certification of the new 777—9 widebody. a lot of things happening where boeing is trying to really kind of reboot its product line and this just comes at a terrible time for the company. workers have rejected an offer for the company for that 25% pay rise over four years. what is it they want? they want more. the union's leaders accepted this last week, and it is a 25% pay rise over the next few years but actually the union i think originally wanted a0%. so union members feel they have made a lot of concessions