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the social media giant instagram has announced a major change of policy to help protect teenagers and improve their safety online. under sixteens using the platform will now be put onto what's called teen accounts, with parental controls as a default setting. social media companies have been under growing pressure to protect children from harmful online content. here's our technology editor zoe kleinman. instagram already claims to have more than 50 tools aimed at keeping teens safe on its platform. but, so far, the problem of children being exposed to harmful content has not been resolved. well, i don't know if its social media, but i think, as parents, we should have the right to see it. an ofcom study earlier this year found that every single child it spoke to had seen violent material online. instagram was one of the platforms they mentioned the most. the new measures aim put more control into the hands of parents. some parents have campaigned for years for better
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protection for their children. now, if someone under 16 tries to make their account public they will have to add a parent to approve it. they will have to add a parent to approve it— to approve it. that parent will then also _ to approve it. that parent will then also be _ to approve it. that parent will then also be able _ to approve it. that parent will then also be able to - to approve it. that parent will then also be able to see - to approve it. that parent will then also be able to see who | then also be able to see who their child messages and which topics they follow. older teens will have to verify their own age. notifications will be muted overnight and young people will get an alert if they spend an hour on the app. the biggest change is that under sixteens will need parental permission to alter any of that setting. some parents have campaigned for years for better protection for their children. years for better protection for their children. ian russell's daughter molly took her own life in 2017 after viewing self—harm content on instagram. these new tools might give parents extra oversight, but they still can't control instagram algorithms they are very good at drumming up they are very good at drumming up er, but they have to be good at being transparent. sometime before christmas, when these measures are in place and the children are using them, we
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should know from meta how they are working and where there are still problems and what they are doing to plug the gaps. these new tools might give parents extra oversight, but they still can't control instagram algorithms or what content appears in the app in the first place. and that's all assuming that parents want this extra responsibility. speaking just last week, meta exec nick clegg said, in reality, the tech giant has found that parents are reluctant to sign up and use these features. zoe kleinman, bbc news. the head of the bbc has said he "can't see" huw edwards working at the corporation again — after the presenter was given a six—month suspended prison sentence, for making indecent images of children. edwards will also be placed on the sex offenders' register for seven years. injuly, the former newsreader admitted having 41 images, which were sent to him on whatsapp 7 including some showing a victim aged between seven and nine. our culture reporter
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noor nanji told us more. as you say, it is a day after huw edwards was sentenced on those abuse images. tim devi was first of all asked whether he thought that huw edwards would ever work at the bbc again, and he said for obvious reasons he cannot see that happening. he said, given the appalling crimes he hasjust been convicted of, he was also asked about scrubbing huw edwards from the archives. on that matter, he said that we never completely ripped and ban people from the archives, but he cannot see a scenario in which edwards is used in day—to—day programming. more broadly, he was also staying within the bbc there is a sense of shock and anger and upset about what has happened, but he says it is not really about the corporation. it is about the victims and their families. finally, he was asked about the money and remember the bbc has asked huw edwards to return that £200,000 that he earned ever since his arrest last november, and on that front he says, we want the money back,
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we have asked for it back, but thatis we have asked for it back, but that is all he is able to say at this point. in scotland, the government has agreed to host the 2026 commonwealth games in glasgow. it will be a smaller event compared with the last games, with only 10—13 sports being featured. that is compared with 18 in 2014. the liberal democrat party conference closes in brighton shortly — with a key note speech from leader sir ed davey. he'll say that fighting to "fix" what he calls the "broken" nhs is what his party will prioritise above all other issues from now on. our political correspondent damian grammaticas is there. damon, it is the final stretch for the party and of course we are going to be hearing from the leader.— the leader. exactly right. it is the final, _ the leader. exactly right. it is the final, big _ the leader. exactly right. it is the final, big event - the leader. exactly right. it is the final, big event of. the leader. exactly right. it| is the final, big event of this conference. four days of it, we
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have been here since saturday. as you say, by the seaside, the lib dems have all been in very upbeat mood will stop and just now, as we were getting ready to talk to you they are all lining up downstairs going into that big hall where ed davey is going to give that speech. as you say, the advance briefing is all that he is going to focus on, the nhs, he has been preparing this morning. he has been out playing tennis and the cameras were filming that. the lib dems have been doing this, trying to create this sense of ed davey out there doing his different stunts and activities, his sort of personable character that they want to try to project. but he has got a serious message and purpose in that speech, too. with me to talk a bit about that, archie mitchell, the independence political correspondent. first of all, obviously, we are trying to close with this conference. you have been here a week, we have seen the lib dems very upbeat mood, is that how you would sum
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it up? a positive feeling? it has definitely been the party atmosphere here, they are celebrating they have got so many — celebrating they have got so many mps, the most they have ever_ many mps, the most they have ever had~ — many mps, the most they have ever had. anyone that you speak to will_ ever had. anyone that you speak to will tell— ever had. anyone that you speak to will tell you that it feels remarkably different. there are so many — remarkably different. there are so many more campaigners, stakeholders, businesses, who have _ stakeholders, businesses, who have to — stakeholders, businesses, who have to come to try to get an ear of— have to come to try to get an ear of these new mps. have to come to try to get an ear of these new mp5. the mp5 are basking in it and so are the— are basking in it and so are the activists.— are basking in it and so are the activists. ~ . , the activists. we have seen the mp5 out on _ the activists. we have seen the mp5 out on the _ the activists. we have seen the mp5 out on the rides, - the activists. we have seen the mp5 out on the rides, enjoying | mps out on the rides, enjoying themselves. as you say everywhere you go around here is the 72, that number. the lib dems are also saying that they now have a job to do, the 72 mps. because they keep repeating they have earned some trust, but they now have to deliver on that.— deliver on that. they are hoinr deliver on that. they are hoping that _ deliver on that. they are hoping that the - deliver on that. they are hoping that the 72 - deliver on that. they are hoping that the 72 mp5 i deliver on that. they are i hoping that the 72 mp5 are deliver on that. they are - hoping that the 72 mp5 are in areas — hoping that the 72 mp5 are in areas that often might not have had liberal democrat mps ever before — had liberal democrat mps ever before. if they'd deliver, if they— before. if they'd deliver, if they fight for the issues that they— they fight for the issues that they thought the campaign on
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such_ they thought the campaign on such as — they thought the campaign on such as clearing up the waterways, and are seen as strong — waterways, and are seen as strong local champions, the 72 mp5 _ strong local champions, the 72 mp5 will— strong local champions, the 72 mp5 will hold onto their seats mps will hold onto their seats at the — mps will hold onto their seats at the next election and wind more — at the next election and wind more mp5 at the next election after— more mp5 at the next election after that. more mp5 at the next election afterthat. it more mp5 at the next election after that. it is definitely now— after that. it is definitely now about those 72 mp5 getting on with— now about those 72 mp5 getting on with the job. | now about those 72 mp5 getting on with the job.— on with the “ob. i get the sense that — on with the job. i get the sense that the _ on with the job. i get the sense that the liberal. sense that the liberal democrats are feeling, they have a bit of an opening, what we are going to hearfrom ed daveyis we are going to hearfrom ed davey is talking about doom and gloom from the government. he arrived here on hisjet ski. another of his stunts. but they are sort of positive kind of approach almost has a bit of an opening here. and that is something that they want capitalise on with that message, particularly focused on those key themes. hhs message, particularly focused on those key themes.- on those key themes. nhs in particular- — on those key themes. nhs in particular. he _ on those key themes. nhs in particular. he is _ on those key themes. nhs in particular. he is going - on those key themes. nhs in particular. he is going to - on those key themes. nhs in | particular. he is going to urge keir— particular. he is going to urge keir starmer to lighten up. i think— keir starmer to lighten up. i think that was one of the key messages of his speech, one of his key— messages of his speech, one of his key attacks on labour. you mentioned _ his key attacks on labour. you mentioned him being out and about— mentioned him being out and about playing tennis this morning, those pictures look fantastic _ morning, those pictures look fantastic. but you cannot
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imagine _ fantastic. but you cannot imagine keir starmer it when he isahout— imagine keir starmer it when he is about to — imagine keir starmer it when he is about to address the labour conference coming up being out in the _ conference coming up being out in the morning playing tennis beforehand. he will be hold up in his— beforehand. he will be hold up in his room, you would think, preparing _ in his room, you would think, preparing to keep banging on about— preparing to keep banging on about this physical inheritance that we — about this physical inheritance that we keep hearing about. where's _ that we keep hearing about. where's this is a complete contrast, _ where's this is a complete contrast, they are positive, excited _ contrast, they are positive, excited about the upcoming parliament and they are ready to type — parliament and they are ready to type in _ parliament and they are ready to type in those issues. the nhs, _ to type in those issues. the nhs, waterways...- to type in those issues. the nhs, waterways... the physical inheritance _ nhs, waterways... the physical inheritance is _ nhs, waterways... the physical inheritance is interesting. - nhs, waterways... the physical inheritance is interesting. the l inheritance is interesting. the lib dems do say that they are aware that the physical inheritance, that the government has taken on, is a real problem. questioned about that lots of their policies are all about spending money, which in this current climate is difficult. school meals, they want to spend that, fixing nhs, thatis want to spend that, fixing nhs, that is not new money but they are talking about money going into that... and interestingly, sir ed davey was asked about other taxes, and we have a clip of what he told our political editor about inheritance tax, that they might consider changing that, as well. that
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that they might consider changing that, as well. at the veneral changing that, as well. at the general election _ changing that, as well. at the general election we _ changing that, as well. at the general election we put - changing that, as well. at the i general election we put forward an ambitious— general election we put forward an ambitious package _ general election we put forward an ambitious package that - general election we put forward an ambitious package that wasl an ambitious package that was fully casted, _ an ambitious package that was fully costed, we _ an ambitious package that was fully costed, we said _ an ambitious package that was fully costed, we said it- an ambitious package that was fully costed, we said it would i fully costed, we said it would come — fully costed, we said it would come from _ fully costed, we said it would come from reversing - fully costed, we said it would come from reversing the - fully costed, we said it would come from reversing the taxl come from reversing the tax cuts — come from reversing the tax cuts to — come from reversing the tax cuts to the _ come from reversing the tax cuts to the banks _ come from reversing the tax cuts to the banks that - come from reversing the tax cuts to the banks that the i cuts to the banks that the conservatives _ cuts to the banks that the conservatives made. - cuts to the banks that the conservatives made. it i cuts to the banks that the conservatives made. it is| cuts to the banks that the i conservatives made. it is £4 billion— conservatives made. it is £4 billion that _ conservatives made. it is £4 billion that went _ conservatives made. it is £4 billion that went to - conservatives made. it is £4 billion that went to the - conservatives made. it is £4 billion that went to the big l billion that went to the big hanksm _ billion that went to the big hanksm we _ billion that went to the big banks... we could - billion that went to the big banks... we could reversej billion that went to the big - banks... we could reverse that to take — banks... we could reverse that to take the _ banks... we could reverse that to take the tax _ banks... we could reverse that to take the tax back— banks... we could reverse that to take the tax back to - banks... we could reverse that to take the tax back to 2015. l to take the tax back to 2015. that — to take the tax back to 2015. that would _ to take the tax back to 2015. that would be _ to take the tax back to 2015. that would be a _ to take the tax back to 2015. that would be a big - to take the tax back to 2015. that would be a big part- to take the tax back to 2015. that would be a big part of. to take the tax back to 2015. . that would be a big part of our spending — that would be a big part of our spending proposals. _ that would be a big part of our spending proposals. and - that would be a big part of our spending proposals. and at. that would be a big part of our| spending proposals. and at the other— spending proposals. and at the other was— spending proposals. and at the other was the _ spending proposals. and at the other was the reform _ spending proposals. and at the other was the reform of - spending proposals. and at the other was the reform of capital| other was the reform of capital gains _ other was the reform of capital gains tax _ other was the reform of capital rains tax. �* , other was the reform of capital rains tax. 3 ., ., ~' other was the reform of capital rains tax. �*, ., ., ~ ., other was the reform of capital gains tax— gains tax. let's look at some other taxes _ gains tax. let's look at some other taxes with _ gains tax. let's look at some other taxes with this - gains tax. let's look at some other taxes with this budget | other taxes with this budget around the corner. inheritance tax, would you put that up? h0. tax, would you put that up? no, i think there _ tax, would you put that up? no, i think there is _ tax, would you put that up? no, i think there is a _ tax, would you put that up? no, i think there is a case _ tax, would you put that up? no, i think there is a case for reforming _ i think there is a case for reforming inheritance - i think there is a case for. reforming inheritance tax. cutting _ reforming inheritance tax. cutting it? _ reforming inheritance tax. cutting it?— reforming inheritance tax. cutting it? reforming inheritance tax. cuttin: it? , ., cutting it? let me explain. i think reforming _ cutting it? let me explain. i think reforming it _ cutting it? let me explain. i think reforming it would - cutting it? let me explain. i. think reforming it would mean that people _ think reforming it would mean that people who _ think reforming it would mean that people who are _ think reforming it would mean that people who are on - think reforming it would meanl that people who are on modest levels — that people who are on modest levels of— that people who are on modest levels of inheritance, _ that people who are on modest levels of inheritance, a - that people who are on modest levels of inheritance, a lot - that people who are on modest levels of inheritance, a lot of l levels of inheritance, a lot of people's _ levels of inheritance, a lot of people's homes— levels of inheritance, a lot of people's homes in— levels of inheritance, a lot of people's homes in many- levels of inheritance, a lot of. people's homes in many areas levels of inheritance, a lot of - people's homes in many areas of the country— people's homes in many areas of the country are _ people's homes in many areas of the country are quite _ people's homes in many areas of the country are quite valuable. . the country are quite valuable. and they— the country are quite valuable. and they end _ the country are quite valuable. and they end up— the country are quite valuable. and they end up being - the country are quite valuable. . and they end up being clobbered by inheritance _ and they end up being clobbered by inheritance tax _ and they end up being clobbered by inheritance tax and _ and they end up being clobbered by inheritance tax and i- and they end up being clobbered by inheritance tax and i think - by inheritance tax and i think that— by inheritance tax and i think that is— by inheritance tax and i think that is in— by inheritance tax and i think that is in fair. _ by inheritance tax and i think that is in fair. because - by inheritance tax and i think that is in fair. because if- by inheritance tax and i think that is in fair. because if you| that is in fair. because if you look— that is in fair. because if you look on _ that is in fair. because if you look on the _ that is in fair. because if you look on the flip _ that is in fair. because if you look on the flip side, - that is in fair. because if you look on the flip side, people | look on the flip side, people who— look on the flip side, people who are _ look on the flip side, people who are inheriting _ look on the flip side, people who are inheriting huge - look on the flip side, people - who are inheriting huge amounts of money—
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who are inheriting huge amounts of money often _ who are inheriting huge amounts of money often are _ who are inheriting huge amounts of money often are able - who are inheriting huge amounts of money often are able through| of money often are able through clever— of money often are able through clever tax— of money often are able through clever tax planning _ of money often are able through clever tax planning to _ of money often are able through clever tax planning to avoid - clever tax planning to avoid inheritance _ clever tax planning to avoid inheritance tax. _ clever tax planning to avoid inheritance tax. i— clever tax planning to avoid inheritance tax. i would - clever tax planning to avoid | inheritance tax. i would like to see — inheritance tax. i would like to see reform _ inheritance tax. i would like to see reform that - inheritance tax. i would like to see reform that is - inheritance tax. i would like to see reform that is more. to see reform that is more fair, — to see reform that is more fair, frankly. _ to see reform that is more fair, frankly.— fair, frankly. so, ed davey talkin: fair, frankly. so, ed davey talking about _ fair, frankly. so, ed davey talking about live - fair, frankly. so, ed davey talking about live demo i fair, frankly. so, ed davey i talking about live demo ideas on tax there because that is interesting because the seats that ed davey is targeting and has won are mostly conservative seats. archie, back with you, they are very clear about this, aren't they? that actually the party they criticise most of all, and we have been hearing it, is the conservatives. that is what matters to the electorate.— is what matters to the electorate. , electorate. there definitely are attacks _ electorate. there definitely are attacks on _ electorate. there definitely are attacks on the - electorate. there definitely are attacks on the doom i electorate. there definitelyl are attacks on the doom and gloom — are attacks on the doom and gloom we are seeing from keir starmer— gloom we are seeing from keir starmer and labour, gloom we are seeing from keir starmerand labour, but gloom we are seeing from keir starmer and labour, but it is focused _ starmer and labour, but it is focused on the conservatives. ed davey— focused on the conservatives. ed davey is going to talk about how he — ed davey is going to talk about how he believes they are out of touch _ how he believes they are out of touch with _ how he believes they are out of touch with the voters they lost in 2024 — touch with the voters they lost in 2024. he is calling these leadership candidates trying to succeed — leadership candidates trying to succeed at rishi sunak, he is saying — succeed at rishi sunak, he is saying they are scraping the bottom _ saying they are scraping the bottom of the barrel. no matter who wins — bottom of the barrel. no matter who wins that contest they feel as though the tory party has now— as though the tory party has now shifted away from its voters _ now shifted away from its voters and that is where they really — voters and that is where they really get to make up ground.
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we have — really get to make up ground. we have had many briefings from the strategist and and one of the strategist and and one of the interesting steps that came through— the interesting steps that came through is that there are 27 in which — through is that there are 27 in which they are in second place, not to— which they are in second place, not to do— which they are in second place, not to do one of those are tory held _ not to do one of those are tory held at— not to do one of those are tory held at the _ not to do one of those are tory held at the moment. those are the seats— held at the moment. those are the seats they are trying to attack, _ the seats they are trying to attack, which sort of makes sense — attack, which sort of makes sense why they are not attacking labour and more. they have one conservative _ attacking labour and more. tie: have one conservative seats, so they are focusing on that in their messages. also focus, i think we will hear from ed davey, is this personal side, his personal touch. on that i think we have one of the moments of that conference so far has been the deputy leader, daisy cooper, she was talking about her own experience when she fell very ill, and what the nhs did for her. 12 she fell very ill, and what the nhs did for her.— she fell very ill, and what the nhs did for her. 12 years ago, i was rushed _ nhs did for her. 12 years ago, i was rushed to _ nhs did for her. 12 years ago, i was rushed to hospital. i nhs did for her. 12 years ago, i was rushed to hospital. a i nhs did for her. 12 years ago, | i was rushed to hospital. a few weeks — i was rushed to hospital. a few weeks in. _ i was rushed to hospital. a few weeks in. i_ i was rushed to hospital. a few weeks in, i was _ i was rushed to hospital. a few weeks in, i was told _ i was rushed to hospital. a few weeks in, i was told that- weeks in, i was told that without— weeks in, i was told that without major— weeks in, i was told that without major surgery. weeks in, i was told that without major surgery i. weeks in, i was told that. without major surgery i had just— without major surgery i had just four— without major surgery i had just four days _ without major surgery i had just four days left _ without major surgery i had just four days left to - without major surgery i had just four days left to live. . without major surgery i had. just four days left to live. my weight — just four days left to live. my weight had _ just four days left to live. my weight had dropped - just four days left to live. my weight had dropped to - just four days left to live. myl weight had dropped to around seven— weight had dropped to around seven stone, _ weight had dropped to around seven stone, my _ weight had dropped to around seven stone, my eyesight i
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weight had dropped to aroundj seven stone, my eyesight was failing — seven stone, my eyesight was failing my— seven stone, my eyesight was failing. my heart _ seven stone, my eyesight was failing. my heart rate - seven stone, my eyesight was failing. my heart rate had i failing. my heart rate had plummeted _ failing. my heart rate had plummeted. and - failing. my heart rate had plummeted. and my- failing. my heart rate hadi plummeted. and my arms failing. my heart rate had - plummeted. and my arms were black— plummeted. and my arms were black and — plummeted. and my arms were black and blue. _ plummeted. and my arms were black and blue. i— plummeted. and my arms were black and blue. i was— plummeted. and my arms were black and blue. i was fed - plummeted. and my arms were black and blue. i was fed only. black and blue. i was fed only through— black and blue. i was fed only through a _ black and blue. i was fed only through a feeding _ black and blue. i was fed only through a feeding tube, - black and blue. i was fed only through a feeding tube, but l black and blue. i was fed onlyj through a feeding tube, but it wasn't — through a feeding tube, but it wasn't at _ through a feeding tube, but it wasn't at the _ through a feeding tube, but it wasn't at the prospect - through a feeding tube, but it wasn't at the prospect of- through a feeding tube, but it. wasn't at the prospect of major surgery— wasn't at the prospect of major surgery that _ wasn't at the prospect of major surgery that upset _ wasn't at the prospect of major surgery that upset me. - wasn't at the prospect of major surgery that upset me. it - wasn't at the prospect of major surgery that upset me. it was i surgery that upset me. it was what _ surgery that upset me. it was what they— surgery that upset me. it was what they said _ surgery that upset me. it was what they said next. - surgery that upset me. it was what they said next. even i surgery that upset me. it was what they said next. even if. what they said next. even if you — what they said next. even if you survive. _ what they said next. even if you survive, daisy, - what they said next. even if you survive, daisy, even. what they said next. even if you survive, daisy, even if. what they said next. even if. you survive, daisy, even if you recover, — you survive, daisy, even if you recover, you _ you survive, daisy, even if you recover, you probably- you survive, daisy, even if you recover, you probably will- recover, you probably will never— recover, you probably will never work _ recover, you probably will never work again. - recover, you probably will never work again. your. recover, you probably will- never work again. your crohn's disease — never work again. your crohn's disease is _ never work again. your crohn's disease is so _ never work again. your crohn's disease is so aggressive, - never work again. your crohn's disease is so aggressive, at i disease is so aggressive, at most — disease is so aggressive, at most you _ disease is so aggressive, at most you might _ disease is so aggressive, at most you might be - disease is so aggressive, at most you might be able i disease is so aggressive, at most you might be able to. disease is so aggressive, at i most you might be able to work one day— most you might be able to work one day a — most you might be able to work one day a week, _ most you might be able to work one day a week, but _ most you might be able to work one day a week, but nothing i most you might be able to work| one day a week, but nothing too stressful~ — stressful. l laughter you will probably need surgery every five years or so.- every five years or so. here is an information _ every five years or so. here is an information pack _ every five years or so. here is an information pack about i every five years or so. here isj an information pack about the benefits — an information pack about the benefits you _ an information pack about the benefits you might _ an information pack about the benefits you might be - an information pack about the | benefits you might be entitled to. conference, _ benefits you might be entitled to. conference, i— benefits you might be entitled to. conference, i lay- benefits you might be entitled to. conference, i lay in - benefits you might be entitled to. conference, i lay in my. benefits you might be entitledl to. conference, i lay in my bed on the — to. conference, i lay in my bed on the 13th _ to. conference, i lay in my bed on the 13th floor— to. conference, i lay in my bed on the 13th floor of— to. conference, i lay in my bed on the 13th floor of that - on the 13th floor of that hospital— on the 13th floor of that hospital and _ on the 13th floor of that hospital and i— on the 13th floor of that hospital and i sobbed. i on the 13th floor of that - hospital and i sobbed. i sobbed
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and i_ hospital and i sobbed. i sobbed and i sobbed, _ hospital and i sobbed. i sobbed and i sobbed, and _ hospital and i sobbed. i sobbed and i sobbed, and i— hospital and i sobbed. i sobbed and i sobbed, and i sobbed. i and i sobbed, and i sobbed. before — and i sobbed, and i sobbed. before 17— and i sobbed, and i sobbed. before 17 hours, _ and i sobbed, and i sobbed. before 17 hours, straight. it| before 17 hours, straight. it felt — before 17 hours, straight. it felt like _ before 17 hours, straight. it felt like my— before 17 hours, straight. it felt like my world _ before 17 hours, straight. it felt like my world had - before 17 hours, straight. it| felt like my world had fallen apart~ — felt like my world had fallen apart~ as _ felt like my world had fallen apart. as a _ felt like my world had fallen apart. as a campaigner, ii felt like my world had fallen i apart. as a campaigner, i have always— apart. as a campaigner, i have always found _ apart. as a campaigner, i have always found my— apart. as a campaigner, i have always found my meaning i apart. as a campaigner, i have always found my meaning and | always found my meaning and purpose — always found my meaning and purpose in _ always found my meaning and purpose in my— always found my meaning and purpose in my work. - always found my meaning and purpose in my work. the i always found my meaning and l purpose in my work. the causes i purpose in my work. the causes i believe — purpose in my work. the causes i believe in. _ purpose in my work. the causes i believe in, the _ purpose in my work. the causes i believe in, the injustices - purpose in my work. the causes i believe in, the injustices i i i believe in, the injustices i want — i believe in, the injustices i want to— i believe in, the injustices i want to fight, _ i believe in, the injustices i want to fight, the - i believe in, the injustices i want to fight, the people . i believe in, the injustices i i want to fight, the people that i want to fight, the people that i can— want to fight, the people that i can work— want to fight, the people that i can work with... _ want to fight, the people that i can work with... all - want to fight, the people that i can work with... all of - want to fight, the people that i can work with... all of it, i i can work with... all of it, in that— i can work with... all of it, in that moment, _ i can work with... all of it, i in that moment, potentially gone — in that moment, potentially gone. snatched _ in that moment, potentially gone. snatched away. - 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what it is gave me my life back _ what it is gave me my life back. thanks _ what it is gave me my life back. thanks to _ what it is gave me my life back. thanks to them, i l what it is gave me my life . back. thanks to them, i got what it is gave me my life - back. thanks to them, i got my strength— back. thanks to them, i got my strength back. _ back. thanks to them, i got my strength back. i— back. thanks to them, i got my strength back. i put— back. thanks to them, i got my strength back. i put on- back. thanks to them, i got my strength back. i put on some i strength back. i put on some weight — strength back. i put on some weight and _ strength back. i put on some weight and i— strength back. i put on some weight. and i decided - strength back. i put on some weight. and i decided to - weight. and i decided to embrace _ weight. and i decided to embrace my— weight. and i decided to embrace my new- weight. and i decided to embrace my new life. i
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weight. and i decided to. embrace my new life. but weight. and i decided to . embrace my new life. but i weight. and i decided to - embrace my new life. but i am not going — embrace my new life. but i am not going to _ embrace my new life. but i am not going to tie _ embrace my new life. but i am not going to lie. i— embrace my new life. but i am not going to lie. i was- embrace my new life. but i am not going to lie. i was really, l not going to lie. i was really, realty— not going to lie. i was really, really scared. _ not going to lie. i was really, really scared. and _ not going to lie. i was really, really scared. and i- not going to lie. i was really, really scared. and i often- really scared. and i often wonder— really scared. and i often wonder what _ really scared. and i often wonder what is— really scared. and i often| wonder what is happening really scared. and i often- wonder what is happening now to the young — wonder what is happening now to the young women _ wonder what is happening now to the young women are _ wonder what is happening now to the young women are the - wonder what is happening now to the young women are the youngi the young women are the young man— the young women are the young man who — the young women are the young man who are _ the young women are the young man who are suffering - the young women are the young man who are suffering those - man who are suffering those same — man who are suffering those same symptoms _ man who are suffering those same symptoms now. - hello, and welcome to the special programme from the liberal democrat programme in brighton, where we are only eight minutes away from sir ed davey�*s conference speech after winning a record number of mps in the general election. find in the general election. and with me are _ in the general election. and with me are the _ in the general election. and with me are the bbc's - in the general election. and with me are the bbc's political with me are the bbc�*s political editor chris mason and liberal democrat mpjessica brown fuller. hello to both of you. and just to stay, we are in the same position we were earlier on today but much emptier because everybody is filing into the conference hall. we can just show you the scene inside, it is already pretty full and pretty busy, you can
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see the delegates gathered there in an empty stage awaiting, no doubt, the traditional warm up for a party conference speakers before it sir ed davey takes to the stage. we hope around 2:30 p:m., timing is always flexible as we know from covering these conferences over decades. he will talk for about an hour and it will no doubt be personal, it will no doubt be personal, it often is with ed davey. and we will discuss some of the issues that he will want to press home. not least the fact that this record number of mps, jessica is one of the newbies to parliament, and how they are going to make their presence felt in this new parliament. we will hear from some delegates and after the speech, we will talk to, i hope, daisy cooper, the party's deputy leader. one of the things that was just put in front of me before i came on air was the press release with the word hope and optimism that ed davey wants to inhabit. i thought the contrast to some of the complaints about sir keir starmer and rachel reeves's
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gloom. fix. starmer and rachel reeves's aloom. �* , starmer and rachel reeves's aloom. ~ , ., . .,, gloom. a couple of observations in the last _ gloom. a couple of observations in the last few _ gloom. a couple of observations in the last few days _ gloom. a couple of observations in the last few days here, - gloom. a couple of observations in the last few days here, it - in the last few days here, it has been... i don't think i have been to a party conference that has had to so much of a sense of un—diluted joy, given the scale of that liberal democrat's success and given that they have been in the doldrums in parliamentary terms numerically for a fair old wild. there are three strands that i have noticed in the last six months with the lib dems, they are all about discipline in three areas. geography, tone and message. 50, that geographicalfocus and message. 50, that geographical focus ruthlessly donein geographical focus ruthlessly done in the general election campaign, trying to for the first time turn past the voting system into something that represents the votes that the liberal democrats can get. that ruthless focus on the seats that they could win. the message discipline, we will get a lot of that in the speech to come around the nhs and social care, which is an issue the party is seeking to own. if that means talking a bit less about other stuff, so be it.
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not exclusively, but that is the real focus. not exclusively, but that is the realfocus. and then not exclusively, but that is the real focus. and then come in tone. it is really important to this tragedy that sir ed daveyis to this tragedy that sir ed davey is pursuing. we saw that in the election campaign with all of the stunts and the mucking around, but he thinks that there is a gap in the political market where the conservatives are sorting themselves out after the election and keir starmer�*s decision to notjust pursue the policies he is doing, but doing it with this tone of a fair old splash of doom and gloom, as his critics see it. the argument for liberal democrats is that there is a space for people sounding more hopeful. in terms of that space, it may not last in the way they are currently enjoying it because the conservative leadership contest. and after the budget, of course, another massive political date. in the calendar. then, do you think there will be pressure, if you like, on ed davey and at the party to really spell out how they are going to influence
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anything? i they are going to influence anything?— they are going to influence anything? i think it is a fair oint. anything? i think it is a fair point- we _ anything? i think it is a fair point. we are _ anything? i think it is a fair point. we are still - anything? i think it is a fair point. we are still in - anything? i think it is a fair point. we are still in the i point. we are still in the immediate post election environment, so it felt like that in the immediate month after the general election. now, new political season begins and you think this is the new reality, but not quite. that budget to come that will shape the mood, the political mood for a fair old wild, potentially the whole parliament. and the conservatives at the moment are currently in this period of stasis whilst they work out what they are going to do. once they have a new leader and front bench team and ed davey announces his front bench team and the budget has happened, i think we will have a proper sense of the contours of the parliament to come. and where do the liberal democrats find their voice within that, massively bolstered in number, but confronting a government with an absolutely colossal majority. 50 in our parliamentary system you can sometimes demonstrate greater influence with the smaller number, if the balance of power allows you to do that. in this instance as things stand labour's lead is so massive numerically that the chance for
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anyone else... how do you make your voice heard? and influence a government that outwardly at the moment looks like it can do what it wants.— the moment looks like it can do what it wants. jessica, welcome to ou. what it wants. jessica, welcome to you you _ what it wants. jessica, welcome to you. you are _ what it wants. jessica, welcome to you. you are a _ what it wants. jessica, welcome to you. you are a new— what it wants. jessica, welcome to you. you are a new mp, - what it wants. jessica, welcome to you. you are a new mp, this| to you. you are a new mp, this is yourfirst to you. you are a new mp, this is your first conference as a liberal democrat mp in chichester. where the voters ousted julian keegan, the former conservative education secretary. do you feel you one in part on an anti—tory sentiment rather than come up with all due respect, a pure love for the liberal democrats? i think that the liberal democrats one in chichester because _ democrats one in chichester because we gave them a choice and we — because we gave them a choice and we worked very hard. during the general election and also in the — the general election and also in the run—up, to talk to voters _ in the run—up, to talk to voters irr— in the run—up, to talk to voters in that area about the things— voters in that area about the things that mattered to them. and what were they? the nhs, access to _ and what were they? the nhs, access to services, _ and what were they? the nhs, access to services, the - and what were they? the nhs, access to services, the cost - and what were they? the nhs, access to services, the cost ofl access to services, the cost of living — access to services, the cost of living crisis, and very pertinent to the chichester constituency is the environment, protecting the
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naturat— environment, protecting the natural environment, especially the waterways. and natural environment, especially the waterways.— natural environment, especially the waterways. and do you agree broadly with _ the waterways. and do you agree broadly with labour's _ broadly with labour's prospectus when it comes to the nhs that there should not be any more money without reform? i agree that we need reform of the nhs — i agree that we need reform of the nhs system. at the liberal democrats laid out in our manifesto where we would find the extra — manifesto where we would find the extra money, and i am sure ed davey— the extra money, and i am sure ed davey will talk about it today _ ed davey will talk about it toda . ., ., . . today. you mentioned that, that is from higher _ today. you mentioned that, that is from higher taxes _ today. you mentioned that, that is from higher taxes on - today. you mentioned that, that is from higher taxes on certain l is from higher taxes on certain groups of people. that many voters are happy to hear are going to be paying more, because they do not think it is about them, because it is bankers, billionaires, corporations, and constituents in chichester are happy with that? ~ , . ., ., that? we were very clear in our manifesto _ that? we were very clear in our manifesto that _ that? we were very clear in our manifesto that it _ that? we were very clear in our manifesto that it was _ that? we were very clear in our manifesto that it was going - that? we were very clear in our manifesto that it was going to i manifesto that it was going to affect— manifesto that it was going to affect the 0.1%, which would raise — affect the 0.1%, which would raise an _ affect the 0.1%, which would raise an extra {3.4 billion which _ raise an extra {3.4 billion which we _ raise an extra {3.4 billion which we will want spent on day—to—day spending with the nhs — day—to—day spending with the nhs it— day—to—day spending with the nhs it is— day—to—day spending with the nhs. it is about reform, where you but— nhs. it is about reform, where you put the money. there's no point _ you put the money. there's no point throwing money at a leaky bucket, — point throwing money at a leaky bucket, it — point throwing money at a leaky bucket, it has got to go where it is going _ bucket, it has got to go where it is going to make a difference. that is investing in difference. that is investing ih our— difference. that is investing in our gps, primary care, to
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take— in our gps, primary care, to take the— in our gps, primary care, to take the pressure off secondary care _ take the pressure off secondary care. ~ . take the pressure off secondary care. ~ ., take the pressure off secondary care. ~ . , take the pressure off secondary care. . ., , ., take the pressure off secondary care. . , ., ., care. what has ed davey got to do today? _ care. what has ed davey got to do today? can _ care. what has ed davey got to do today? can he _ care. what has ed davey got to do today? can he just - care. what has ed davey got to do today? can he just to - care. what has ed davey got to do today? can he just to bask i do today? can hejust to bask in the sort of political victory postelection? does he need to do any more than that? to this audience i'm not sure he necessarily does, he is so buoyant and jubilant as is the mood. and it is a nice problem for him and the lib dems to have this, relative to the last parliament. but the conversation will tilt, and is already tilting publicly and privately in the party... right, what do they do? with 72 mp5, how do you make the most mps, how do you make the most of that number? particularly, and i know i keep banging on about this, in the context of the broader parliamentary arithmetic. to a degree, a lot of that will come down to where the conservatives decide to go in terms of their tone and policy and outlook and personnel. sir ed davey is trying to make this argument about constructive opposition... about constructive
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ouosition... . , . opposition... what is that, exactly? — opposition. .. what is that, exactly? fair— opposition... what is that, exactly? fair question. - opposition... what is that, exactly? fair question. it | exactly? fair question. it comes back, _ exactly? fair question. it comes back, i _ exactly? fair question. it comes back, i think, - exactly? fair question. it comes back, i think, the| comes back, i think, the argument comes back to this point about tone. that you can criticise without it necessarily being as in a pejorative kind of sense. but there is an intriguing conundrum that fascinates me... broadly speaking, we have seen the lib dems in the last ten years become sort of anti—conservative party, and focused their political attendance at high office on conservative or a former conservative or a former conservative seats. some of the critique that the lib dems make of the labour government is arguably to the left of it, even though future potential gains or defending seats like chichester are likely to be against the conservatives. so i think this is an intriguing mix of issues that may or may not be competing and the party takes issue with binary labels
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like left and right, etc. but i think there are some interesting strategizing for the party to do, in a context where they can actually do that. the luxury of being able to think about how you utilise 72 mp5 as opposed to a number of mps you could fit in a minibus, which was the case until three months ago. find minibus, which was the case until three months ago. and you look at a previous _ until three months ago. and you look at a previous parliament. look at a previous parliament wheh — look at a previous parliament when the _ look at a previous parliament when the third party was the snp — when the third party was the snp and _ when the third party was the snp and it is safe to say, i think. _ snp and it is safe to say, i think, that their style of being _ think, that their style of being the third party it was very— being the third party it was very argumentative, you are not doing — very argumentative, you are not doing this, — very argumentative, you are not doing this, and not delivering the solutions to fix those problems. it is our intention to be — problems. it is our intention to be a _ problems. it is our intention to be a constructive opposition, that when we agree with labour fundamentally but we believe that they need to go further— we believe that they need to go further or— we believe that they need to go further or they need to go faster. _ further or they need to go faster, orthey further or they need to go faster, or they are not introducing some of the reforms were _ introducing some of the reforms were suggesting, then we will work— were suggesting, then we will work with them collaboratively and suggest those reforms. and simitarty. — and suggest those reforms. and similarly, when we are against what _ similarly, when we are against what they— similarly, when we are against what they are proposing, then we witt— what they are proposing, then we will work with the conservatives. it is about being _ conservatives. it is about being constructive in that journey _ being constructive in that journey for the country. i
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think— journey for the country. i think people are really sick of divisive — think people are really sick of divisive politics, theyjust want _ divisive politics, theyjust want us _ divisive politics, theyjust want us to get on and do the job — want us to get on and do the job it — want us to get on and do the job it is _ want us to get on and do the job. it is with the liberal democrats are offering, 72 community champions who really care about — community champions who really care about their patches, making _ care about their patches, making sure that their voices are heard _ making sure that their voices are heard in parliament. | are heard in parliament. think we are heard in parliament. i think we have to let you go it into the hall, we can see the warm ups are beginning now up on the stage. i warm ups are beginning now up on the stage-— on the stage. i will play speech _ on the stage. i will play speech bingo, - on the stage. i will play speech bingo, i - on the stage. i will play speech bingo, i reckonl on the stage. i will play i speech bingo, i reckon we on the stage. i will play - speech bingo, i reckon we are going to hear local champions, community champions, and the next hour... i don't think it will be quite double figures but we might be able to count with the fingers on one hand. enjoy the speech, and while chris leaves us and before i come back to jessica, chris leaves us and before i come back tojessica, let's remind ourselves of the energetic, let's put it that way, election campaign that was spearheaded by sir ed davey. taste spearheaded by sir ed davey. we need to spearheaded by sir ed davey. - need to transform our politics, our politics is broken. filth our politics is broken. 0h cosh, our politics is broken. oh
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gosh. we _ our politics is broken. oh gosh, we will _ our politics is broken. oh gosh, we will keep going... liberat— gosh, we will keep going... liberal democrat! ! are you read ? the other numbers, it liberal democrats up 53 on 61 seats... cheering and applause singing sweet caroline, ed davey enjoying himself during the campaign. and just talking about some of that enjoyment come about being a local champion. what would you like to hear from champion. what would you like to hearfrom him? i champion. what would you like to hear from him?— to hear from him? i hope you will focus _ to hear from him? i hope you will focus on _ to hear from him? i hope you will focus on the _ to hear from him? i hope you will focus on the things - to hear from him? i hope you will focus on the things we i will focus on the things we focus _ will focus on the things we focus on _ will focus on the things we focus on during the general
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election, the nhs, social care, tacking — election, the nhs, social care, lacking from the conservatives and labourers manifesto. and about — and labourers manifesto. and about the cost of living crisis _ about the cost of living crisis. �* . about the cost of living crisis. . . . ,., about the cost of living crisis. . . ., , crisis. and what about housing? that is a major— crisis. and what about housing? that is a major issue, _ crisis. and what about housing? that is a major issue, it - crisis. and what about housing? that is a major issue, it was - that is a major issue, it was at the forefront of labour's campaign along with issues like the nhs. the liberal democrats are pledging to build 1.9 million homes if they were in government by the end of the parliament, that is more than labour. but how, if you are not going to bulldoze, as keir starmer says he will come a local opposition?— starmer says he will come a local opposition? our policy on buildin: local opposition? our policy on building homes _ local opposition? our policy on building homes was _ local opposition? our policy on j building homes was ambitious. but we — building homes was ambitious. but we were the only party that actually — but we were the only party that actually sent out a number of social— actually sent out a number of social and _ actually sent out a number of social and affordable homes, which — social and affordable homes, which the other parties decided not to— which the other parties decided not to do _ which the other parties decided not to do. because we do need homes, — not to do. because we do need homes, we _ not to do. because we do need homes, we have got the housing crisis _ homes, we have got the housing crisis in — homes, we have got the housing crisis in this— homes, we have got the housing crisis in this country. but they— crisis in this country. but they need to be the right homes and they— they need to be the right homes and they need to be in the right— and they need to be in the right places. and they need to be in the right places-— and they need to be in the right places. and they need to be in the riaht laces. . ., , . right places. that does sound a little bit like — right places. that does sound a little bit like not _ right places. that does sound a little bit like not in _ right places. that does sound a little bit like not in my - right places. that does sound a little bit like not in my back - little bit like not in my back yard, i'm going to pause you there because we have got the speech coming up. but my colleague hannah miller has been talking to delegates. yes.
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been talking to delegates. yes, we are here _ been talking to delegates. yes, we are here with _ been talking to delegates. yes, we are here with an _ we are here with an enthusiastic crowd waiting to go in there and here ed davey speak. let's have a chat with some of them and see what they want him to be think. hello, hello. nice to meet you. you are on bbc politics lie. what are on bbc politics lie. what are you hoping to hearfrom ed davey today? i are you hoping to hear from ed davey today?— davey today? i would like to hear what — davey today? i would like to hear what we _ davey today? i would like to hear what we are _ davey today? i would like to hear what we are going - davey today? i would like to hear what we are going to i davey today? i would like to - hear what we are going to move forward, — hear what we are going to move forward, what _ hear what we are going to move forward, what impact _ hear what we are going to move forward, what impact we - hear what we are going to move forward, what impact we will. forward, what impact we will have — forward, what impact we will have we _ forward, what impact we will have. we have _ forward, what impact we will have. we have got— forward, what impact we will have. we have got 72 - forward, what impact we will have. we have got 72 mps, i forward, what impact we will- have. we have got 72 mps, great news? _ have. we have got 72 mps, great news, and — have. we have got 72 mps, great news, and i— have. we have got 72 mps, great news, and i am _ have. we have got 72 mps, great news, and i am looking _ have. we have got 72 mps, great news, and i am looking for- have. we have got 72 mps, great news, and i am looking for a - news, and i am looking for a positive, _ news, and i am looking for a positive, constructive - news, and i am looking for al positive, constructive actions so we — positive, constructive actions so we can— positive, constructive actions so we can hopefully - positive, constructive actions so we can hopefully get - positive, constructive actions| so we can hopefully get some positive, constructive actions i so we can hopefully get some of our policies _ so we can hopefully get some of our policies implemented. - so we can hopefully get some of our policies implemented. thank our policies implemented. thank ou ve our policies implemented. thank you very much- _ our policies implemented. thank you very much. lady _ our policies implemented. thank you very much. lady in _ our policies implemented. thank you very much. lady in the - you very much. lady in the yellow beret... lady in the yellow beret... lady in the yellow break, hello, you look very lib dems if i may say so. what are you hoping to hear from ed davey today?- what are you hoping to hear from ed davey today? well, that we can carry _ from ed davey today? well, that we can carry on _ from ed davey today? well, that we can carry on our _ from ed davey today? well, that we can carry on our success - from ed davey today? well, that we can carry on our success of. we can carry on our success of 72 we can carry on our success of 72 mps, — we can carry on our success of 72 mps, best _ we can carry on our success of 72 mps, best ever. _ we can carry on our success of 72 mps, best ever.— 72 mps, best ever. lots of --eole 72 mps, best ever. lots of people have _ 72 mps, best ever. lots of people have been - 72 mps, best ever. lots of people have been told - 72 mps, best ever. lots of people have been told to i 72 mps, best ever. lots of. people have been told to say that... �* , that... but it is true! the last time _ that... but it is true! the last time it _ that... but it is true! the last time it was - that... but it is true! the | last time it was something that... but it is true! the - last time it was something like 63, last time it was something like 63. so —
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last time it was something like 63, so that was a long time ago — 63, so that was a long time ago a— 63, so that was a long time auo. �* ., 63, so that was a long time ato_ �* ., ., 63, so that was a long time auo.�* ., ., ago. a lot of enthusiasm here it seems- _ ago. a lot of enthusiasm here it seems- it — ago. a lot of enthusiasm here it seems. it is _ ago. a lot of enthusiasm here it seems. it is lovely. - ago. a lot of enthusiasm here it seems. it is lovely. as - ago. a lot of enthusiasm here it seems. it is lovely. as a - it seems. it is lovely. as a lib dems _ it seems. it is lovely. as a lib dems family, - it seems. it is lovely. as a lib dems family, it - it seems. it is lovely. as a lib dems family, it is - it seems. it is lovely. as a lib dems family, it is like | it seems. it is lovely. as a l lib dems family, it is like a being— lib dems family, it is like a being a— lib dems family, it is like a being a family. and if you were here _ being a family. and if you were here last — being a family. and if you were here last night you would have noticed — here last night you would have noticed. , . ~ here last night you would have noticed. , . ,, . noticed. very much like a family- — noticed. very much like a family- i'm _ noticed. very much like a family. i'm glad - noticed. very much like a family. i'm glad you - noticed. very much like a family. i'm glad you had i noticed. very much like a| family. i'm glad you had a noticed. very much like a - family. i'm glad you had a nice evening. betsy wells... hello, i am from politics life, we are waiting to hear from i am from politics life, we are waiting to hearfrom ed davey. what would you like him to be saying? i what would you like him to be sa in: ? . ., what would you like him to be sa int? . ., saying? i want him to say it more joy — saying? i want him to say it more joy and _ saying? i want him to say it more joy and less - saying? i want him to say it more joy and less doom - saying? i want him to say it| more joy and less doom and gloom. _ more joy and less doom and gloom. more _ more joy and less doom and gloom. moreon, _ more joy and less doom and gloom, morejoy, more - more joy and less doom and l gloom, morejoy, more hope, more joy and less doom and - gloom, morejoy, more hope, and more _ gloom, morejoy, more hope, and more stunts — gloom, morejoy, more hope, and more stunts in _ gloom, morejoy, more hope, and more stunts in the _ gloom, morejoy, more hope, and more stunts in the future - gloom, morejoy, more hope, and more stunts in the future so - more stunts in the future so that— more stunts in the future so that people _ more stunts in the future so that people are _ more stunts in the future so that people are more - more stunts in the future so that people are more aware| more stunts in the future so i that people are more aware of our brilliant _ that people are more aware of our brilliant policies. - that people are more aware of our brilliant policies. and - our brilliant policies. and also, _ our brilliant policies. and also, to— our brilliant policies. and also, to make _ our brilliant policies. and also, to make people - our brilliant policies. and i also, to make people aware our brilliant policies. and - also, to make people aware of what _ also, to make people aware of what we — also, to make people aware of what we stand _ also, to make people aware of what we stand for. _ also, to make people aware of what we stand for. so - also, to make people aware of what we stand for.— what we stand for. so you really feel _ what we stand for. so you really feel the _ what we stand for. so you really feel the stunts - what we stand for. so you | really feel the stunts have been working? do you have a favourite so far? i been working? do you have a favourite so far?— favourite so far? i think probably _ favourite so far? i think probably the _ favourite so far? i think probably the data - favourite so far? i think i probably the data dancing. favourite so far? i think - probably the data dancing. that does not take _ probably the data dancing. that does not take too _ probably the data dancing. does not take too much effort to organise, either. thank you for speaking to us. hello,
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let's have a chat with another person in the queue. what are you looking forward to hearing from ed davey today?- from ed davey today? more celebration _ from ed davey today? more celebration of _ from ed davey today? more celebration of our _ from ed davey today? more celebration of our fantastic | celebration of our fantastic wins, — celebration of our fantastic wins, and outlining how ours 72 tocat— wins, and outlining how ours 72 local champion mps will be able to get— local champion mps will be able to get to — local champion mps will be able to get to work in their communities and holding the labour— communities and holding the labour government to account. i think— labour government to account. i think we _ labour government to account. i think we have already seen there — think we have already seen there are some differences on policy, — there are some differences on policy, the difficulties and how— policy, the difficulties and how they have handled the winter _ how they have handled the winter it _ how they have handled the winter it fuel payments, the two — winter it fuel payments, the two child benefit that they have — two child benefit that they have not prioritised. i think liberat— have not prioritised. i think liberal democrats have really -ot liberal democrats have really got something to say on those topics — got something to say on those to - ics. . ~ got something to say on those toics. ., ~' ,, got something to say on those toics. . ,, i. ., got something to say on those toics. . ,, ., . ,, topics. thank you for talking topics. thank you for talking to us. topics. thank you for talking to us- we — topics. thank you for talking to us. we will _ topics. thank you for talking to us. we will get _ topics. thank you for talking to us. we will get in - topics. thank you for talking to us. we will get in there i to us. we will get in there once the curtain is finally open. lots of enthusiasm here, i cannot wait for the we will catch up with hannah miller afterwards. let's return to housing. how can houses be delivered with a community led
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approach. in other words, delivered with a community led approach. in otherwords, if you do not force housing because it is so vital, as you said, on communities, it won't be built. ~ ., , be built. we need housing everywhere- _ be built. we need housing everywhere. there - be built. we need housing everywhere. there is - be built. we need housing everywhere. there is a i be built. we need housing - everywhere. there is a shortage of homes across the entire country. we need to take a pragmatic approach to where that housing dies. we need to protect our agricultural land, for example. we need to protect nature, our natural landscapes. we laid that out in our manifesto about how the liberal democrats would go about that. utilising housing, rather than relying on the large—scale developers that don't always want to deliver the social claims that an area needs. how many should — claims that an area needs. how many should be _ claims that an area needs. how many should be built? - claims that an area needs. how many should be built? there i claims that an area needs. how many should be built? there is| many should be built? there is no oint many should be built? there is no point sitting _ many should be built? there is no point sitting a _ many should be built? there is no point sitting a number- many should be built? there is no point sitting a number on i no point sitting a number on it. labour have put forward a proposal and people are commenting on that. proposal and people are commentin: on that. . . ., commenting on that. what do you think? in commenting on that. what do you think? in an _ commenting on that. what do you think? in an area _ commenting on that. what do you think? in an area like _ think? in an area like chichester, i am sure there are
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