tv Verified Live BBC News September 19, 2024 3:30pm-4:01pm BST
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to launch, in the south before, to launch, but what happened, it was a balance of deterioration. they tried to split between the north and gaza. they threatened war for 11 north and gaza. they threatened warfor11 months, and some people here in lebanon they are helping. and today we will have complaints of war, in two hours we will have comprehensive war for 11 months we are living in this environment. and all these we are targeting to put pressure on the lebanese government and the lebanese public and on the lebanese resistance. fir public and on the lebanese resistance.— resistance. or parties in particular— resistance. or parties in particular and _ resistance. or parties in particular and on - resistance. or parties in - particular and on hezbollah. this is to stop this front, the assassination of the leaders and individuals and freedom
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fighters and destroying thousands of houses, just hoping at midnight they have allowed aeroplanes. this attack came with this context, all the attempts were failed. the resistance remained strong. this is the highest way of criminality.— this is the highest way of criminali . ~ u, criminality. we will continue to monitor— criminality. we will continue to monitor because - criminality. we will continue to monitor because i - criminality. we will continue | to monitor because i suspect this is going to go on for some while. we said a little earlier that there were those reports of jets flying over that there were those reports ofjets flying over beirut. hugo pacheco put up the pictures of the skyline over that city, also confirming that he can see and hear those jets flying at low altitude just as hassan nasrallah started giving that speech. let me bring in
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james landau and frank gardner. just as a quick aside, frankly, we don't know the location of this news conference or address. there will be paranoia within hezbollah, given everything that has happened over the last two days and events over the last few months. i events over the last few month-— events over the last few months. ., , , ,, months. i would be surprised if it wasn't known _ months. i would be surprised if it wasn't known where - months. i would be surprised if it wasn't known where hassan l it wasn't known where hassan nasrallah was. but to assassinate him would be seen assassinate him would be seen as a step too far. i would slightly temper our expectations as to how much of a clue we are going to get from his speech because there is a lot of rhetoric here, there is a lot of anger and fiery words, but he is not going to go and announce what their operational plans are. hezbollah are reeling and are in no position to fight a war with anybody. they are completely nonplussed as to how they are going to communicate between the
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leadership in the south of beirut with all their scattered units in southern lebanon and syria. they are on the back foot right now. iran is reportedly telling them, weight, revenge, fine, but serve it cold. do it at the right time, don't go and lash out now. we can expect probably a few more exchanges, rocket and drone exchanges across the northern border but there will be pressure on hassan nasrallah to do something bigger than they have done before, but at they have done before, but at the same time, his country, lebanon, will be calling on him for restraint.— for restraint. james, there have been _ for restraint. james, there have been so _ for restraint. james, there have been so many - for restraint. james, there have been so many calls i for restraint. james, there l have been so many calls for restraint over the last 48 hours. i am just reading emmanuel macron, the latest to pass on messages to hezbollah to avoid escalation again in the region and calling on israel and hezbollah to avoid an all—out war. that i suppose is an echo of the message we have heard from antony blinken
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as he shuffles around various capital is. as he shuffles around various capital is-_ capital is. the hope is that the reality _ capital is. the hope is that the reality that _ capital is. the hope is that the reality that most - capital is. the hope is that the reality that most sidesj the reality that most sides seem _ the reality that most sides seem to _ the reality that most sides seem to understand, is that all-out— seem to understand, is that all—out war is not to anybody's benefit — all—out war is not to anybody's benefit. but the trouble is they— benefit. but the trouble is they are _ benefit. but the trouble is they are beginning to rely on that, — they are beginning to rely on that, as _ they are beginning to rely on that, as if— they are beginning to rely on that, as if that will ultimately get both sides into the right place on this. and the right place on this. and the thing is though, that as this— the thing is though, that as this goes on, we escalate from step— this goes on, we escalate from step two— this goes on, we escalate from step two step. frank is absolutely right. the iranians will be — absolutely right. the iranians will be seeing caution, but the iranians — will be seeing caution, but the iranians themselves have yet to respond — iranians themselves have yet to respond to the killing of the hamas— respond to the killing of the hamas leader in tiran. so they are still— hamas leader in tiran. so they are still waiting to respond. what — are still waiting to respond. what is _ are still waiting to respond. what is interesting what we have — what is interesting what we have heard from hassan nasrallah is interesting, are facing — nasrallah is interesting, are facing up to the music. it was a major— facing up to the music. it was a major blow and unprecedented what _ a major blow and unprecedented what the — a major blow and unprecedented what the organisation has received but it is also a pep talk — received but it is also a pep talk he _ received but it is also a pep talk. he said this major blow will not _ talk. he said this major blow will not bring us down. through this experience we will go stronger. in other words what we are — stronger. in other words what we are seeing this afternoon is not an— we are seeing this afternoon is not an announcement of what the
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revenge _ not an announcement of what the revenge response will be, it is an ok — revenge response will be, it is an ok we _ revenge response will be, it is an ok we have taken a hit but we can— an ok we have taken a hit but we can come through it. in other— we can come through it. in other words this is a leader of an organisation that has taken an organisation that has taken a hit _ an organisation that has taken a hit and — an organisation that has taken a hit and is still standing and will get — a hit and is still standing and will get the next phase. whether or not hezbollah supporters by that, or they reel— supporters by that, or they reel from this, is because of their— reel from this, is because of their morale blow they have suffered. but this is a leader trying — suffered. but this is a leader trying to— suffered. but this is a leader trying to bring an organisation together— trying to bring an organisation together saying we have taken a hit but _ together saying we have taken a hit but we — together saying we have taken a hit but we can move forward. that — hit but we can move forward. that is— hit but we can move forward. that is a _ hit but we can move forward. that is a good point to bring in frank because there will be people watching around the world as we are broadcasting this, perhaps not as knowledgeable as you about hassan nasrallah and hezbollah. just explain how long he has been leading that group and the group itself in terms of its firepower and what we have seen in the last 12 months with the exchange with israel. hezbollah sd brina exchange with israel. hezbollah sd bring up _ exchange with israel. hezbollah sd bring up in — exchange with israel. hezbollah sd bring up in the _ exchange with israel. hezbollah sd bring up in the 1980s - exchange with israel. hezbollah sd bring up in the 1980s as - exchange with israel. hezbollah sd bring up in the 1980s as the | sd bring up in the 1980s as the result of the islamic revolution in iran and as a
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result of israel's invasion of lebanon and israel occupied lebanon and israel occupied lebanon for quite some time. they have become the most powerful non—state force in the middle east. hassan nasrallah is their leader. he is a man with impeccable religious credentials. he is branded as a terrorist leader by israel and its friends. the 2006 lebanon israel war, which was fought close to that border and i was down injerusalem covering that and i remember israel thought it could defeat hezbollah with air power. the chief said we can do this, we have got this, we have massive firepower and we have massive firepower and we can bomb hezbollah out of the southern border. they didn't. they eventually had to go in on the ground with their tanks and hezbollah had already pre—positioned all their minds, as in explosive booby—traps, their off—road route minds that
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would explode in the tanks. they thought the tanks were invincible and could not stand up invincible and could not stand up to the hezbollah firepower. that 32 day war ended in 2006 inconclusively. neither side was the winner. both sides... i mean hezbollah took more of a battering. since then they have rearmed, retrained, restock and replenish themselves. they have now got a massive arsenal, much of it underground, much of it hidden in civilian areas, that is cocked and aimed at israeli cities, at military barracks, at high rise apartment buildings etc. israel knows that, should this descend into a full—scale war, however much help it is going to get from america with its offshore fleet, it is going —— make it is going to take a serious hit. it is going to be very painful. these are some of the constraining factors. when people say are we on the brink, israel is going to think twice.
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it is moved up from gaza so they now have two divisions in they now have two divisions in the north, 20,000 plus. that doesn't necessarily mean to say they are automatically going to invade. , ., , , they are automatically going to invade. , . , , ., invade. james, in terms of israel's — invade. james, in terms of israel's strategy, - invade. james, in terms of israel's strategy, saying i israel's strategy, saying yesterday, we are going into a new phase of the war, troop movements, your analysis of that. , , , , ., that. this is the big question. as frank was _ that. this is the big question. as frank was saying - that. this is the big question. as frank was saying to - that. this is the big question. as frank was saying to the i as frank was saying to the israelis _ as frank was saying to the israelis really want to do an open — israelis really want to do an open offensive against hezbollah right now? there are some _ hezbollah right now? there are some analysts who say that actually _ some analysts who say that actually they would prefer to wait, — actually they would prefer to wait, they're actually in the long — wait, they're actually in the long run— wait, they're actually in the long run they do want to do this— long run they do want to do this but— long run they do want to do this but right now they are still— this but right now they are still engaged in gaza. the military— still engaged in gaza. the military has been stretched, they— military has been stretched, they need to give the idf some kind of— they need to give the idf some kind of time to rest. they want to do— kind of time to rest. they want to do it — kind of time to rest. they want to do it in _ kind of time to rest. they want to do it in a _ kind of time to rest. they want to do it in a place where they can maximise international sopport _ can maximise international support. i think they properly work— support. i think they properly work out _ support. i think they properly work out that now is not the time — work out that now is not the time that— work out that now is not the time that they would get that. not all— time that they would get that. not all the ducks are in a row for an—
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not all the ducks are in a row for an israeli operation right now — for an israeli operation right now but _ for an israeli operation right now. but whenever you talk to israelis — now. but whenever you talk to israelis about this, israeli analysts _ israelis about this, israeli analysts and idf types, they always — analysts and idf types, they always say, hezbollah is the long — always say, hezbollah is the long term project. hamas was a short-term _ long term project. hamas was a short—term shot but the idf has been _ short—term shot but the idf has been planning and readying itself— been planning and readying itself for an operation on hezbollah for many years. many israeli _ hezbollah for many years. many israeli commandos see this as unfinished business. the strategic question is, when become _ strategic question is, when become today's business? i don't — become today's business? i don't know the answer to that. i don't know the answer to that. i am _ don't know the answer to that. i am not — don't know the answer to that. i am not sure yet whether the israeli — i am not sure yet whether the israeli government knows that. it israeli government knows that. it was — israeli government knows that. it was under huge pressure from its international allies not to id its international allies not to go there _ its international allies not to go there. . its international allies not to go there- -— go there. . just as you finish that sentence _ go there. . just as you finish that sentence that _ go there. . just as you finish that sentence that has - go there. . just as you finish | that sentence that has boller chief said the group will not stop fighting israel until the gaza war ends and that has been the reality of the last 12 months at least. these two hostile activities have been totally intertwined.-
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totally intertwined. this is the contradictory - totally intertwined. this isj the contradictory analysis. totally intertwined. this is - the contradictory analysis. the west. — the contradictory analysis. the west. the _ the contradictory analysis. the west, the united states and the europeans think that if they canjust _ europeans think that if they canjust get a europeans think that if they can just get a ceasefire europeans think that if they canjust get a ceasefire in gaza _ canjust get a ceasefire in gaza then that takes all the heat — gaza then that takes all the heat out _ gaza then that takes all the heat out of out of the other peripheral conflicts and that gives— peripheral conflicts and that gives less pretext for what an open — gives less pretext for what an open war— gives less pretext for what an open war between hezbollah and israel~ _ open war between hezbollah and israel. there are some israeli strategies that you think, if they— strategies that you think, if they get a ceasefire in gaza do not close — they get a ceasefire in gaza do not close the decks and allows israel— not close the decks and allows israel to— not close the decks and allows israel to move towards what they— israel to move towards what they now _ israel to move towards what they now say is the next phase. frank. — they now say is the next phase. frank. a — they now say is the next phase. frank. a lot _ they now say is the next phase. frank, a lot of detail, we know, in the last couple of days, about the way this attack was mounted with the pages, the walkie—talkies. there has been growing disquiet about the sense of using communication devices, used by many people, notjust hezbollah but doctors, civilians, nurses, which has been turned into a warfare device. it been turned into a warfare device. ., , , been turned into a warfare device. . , , . ., device. it has been condemned b the device. it has been condemned by the un _ device. it has been condemned by the un and _ device. it has been condemned by the un and britain's- by the un and britain's government, which probably considers itself a sort of ally
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to israel, although it recently did do a partial suspension of arms exports to israel, which infuriated the israeli government. but nevertheless they say they are very concerned by this. turning, booby trapping a civilian object with explosives is against international law. israel has yet to say that they did it. they are not going to own up to this. it took a while before the mossad operation to hunt down other perpetrators of the i972 hunt down other perpetrators of the 1972 munich 0lympics massacre, that that finally came to light, but i think there is a growing call for an independent investigation into who did this and how, and whether international law was broken. children have been hurt in this. yes, hezbollah is a prescribed terrorist organisation by several governments but nevertheless booby trapping ordinary objects like this, where does this end?
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can you imagine chris make you your phone, and hang on, you think, is it going to blow up? that is the feeling right now in lebanon. lebanese don't know whether they dare open their laptops. should they throw them away? to blow up? that is the feeling right now in lebanon. lebanese don't know whether they dare open their laptops. should they throw them away? should they throw them away? should they throw them away? should they dare answer a phone call? are they going to have the sort of hassan nasrallah where he said israel was looking to kill 4—5000 of our fighters. if israel had wanted to kill them it would have packed more explosive in there. it was looking to send a message and to maim. some people did died but less than 1%. i don't think it was looking to kill. they would have fine tuned exactly... they knew what they were doing, whoever did this. than whoever did this. an interesting - whoever did this. an interesting couple of points that you go through. it is worth mentioning that spain's foreign ministry is the latest to condemn the use of those communication devices. interesting that hassan nasrallah saying that the top
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officials of hezbollah don't carry the model of pages that exploded. i suppose that underlines that there was disquiet within hezbollah about communication devices, phones, as being a potential way they could be infiltrated. ester could be infiltrated. ever since the _ could be infiltrated. ever since the october - could be infiltrated. ever since the october the . could be infiltrated. ever| since the october the 7th could be infiltrated. ever- since the october the 7th war, or the — since the october the 7th war, or the raid. _ since the october the 7th war, orthe raid, rather, the horrific— orthe raid, rather, the horrific raid in southern israel. _ horrific raid in southern israel, and then the devastating israeli counter attack _ devastating israeli counter attack into gaza that has ended up attack into gaza that has ended up in _ attack into gaza that has ended up in and — attack into gaza that has ended up in and around 41,000 people being— up in and around 41,000 people being killed, mostly women and children. — being killed, mostly women and children, ever since then hassan— children, ever since then hassan nasrallah and the leadership of hezbollah warned their fighters, leadership of hezbollah warned theirfighters, if leadership of hezbollah warned their fighters, if you want to find — their fighters, if you want to find an— their fighters, if you want to find an israeli spy, look no further— find an israeli spy, look no further than your phone. lock it away, — further than your phone. lock it away, put it in an armed box and _ it away, put it in an armed box and don't _ it away, put it in an armed box and don't use it. you will be hacked _ and don't use it. you will be hacked and tracked. israel's military— hacked and tracked. israel's military cyber capability is possibly second to none in the world — possibly second to none in the world. you may have heard of the n50 — world. you may have heard of the n50 group which is a civilian—
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the n50 group which is a civilian company in israel which _ civilian company in israel which developed something called — which developed something called pegasus. it is the nuclear— called pegasus. it is the nuclear button of cyber malware which, _ nuclear button of cyber malware which, if — nuclear button of cyber malware which, if it — nuclear button of cyber malware which, if it infects your phone, _ which, if it infects your phone, the user gets to basically control your phone. these — basically control your phone. these are _ basically control your phone. these are mostly idf or mossad cyber— these are mostly idf or mossad cyber specialist. they are very good — cyber specialist. they are very good at — cyber specialist. they are very good at doing this and if they want — good at doing this and if they want to— good at doing this and if they want to track somebody through their— want to track somebody through their mobile phone using gps or triangulation they can do it and — triangulation they can do it and target that person using a drone — and target that person using a drone. that is why hezbollah leadership said put away the phones. _ leadership said put away the phones, go back to 20th century technology, let's use icons, walkie—talkies and cell phones because — walkie—talkies and cell phones because they thought they were safe _ because they thought they were safe it — because they thought they were safe. it turns out that they weren't _ safe. it turns out that they weren't-— safe. it turns out that they weren't. , ., , ., weren't. interesting what you are saying — weren't. interesting what you are saying right _ weren't. interesting what you are saying right at _ weren't. interesting what you are saying right at the - weren't. interesting what you are saying right at the start i are saying right at the start of this, expect fiery language and propaganda, expect all of those things. just in the last few minutes hezbollah's chief said that this did not impact our command control or infrastructure but just our command control or infrastructure butjust about infrastructure but just about every infrastructure butjust about every analyst would dispute that, given what we have seen
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over the last couple of days. exactly as frank and james were saying, in a sense, quite a lot of this is messaging to various people in hezbollah about their resilience. let's go back to jerusalem and back to our correspondent there. daniel, let me ask you, because there have been significant developments there in israel over the last couple of days with benjamin netanyahu with benjamin neta nyahu announcing with benjamin netanyahu announcing a new war aim to the north of israel. then we had the defence minister saying they were entering a new phase of the war. we have also seen troop movements. give me an idea of the public mood, the public support, or otherwise, for all of that? i public support, or otherwise, for all of that?— for all of that? i think the ublic for all of that? i think the public opinion _ for all of that? i think the public opinion on - for all of that? i think the public opinion on this - for all of that? i think the public opinion on this is l public opinion on this is mixed, _ public opinion on this is mixed, i_ public opinion on this is mixed, i think, - public opinion on this is mixed, i think, to- public opinion on this is mixed, i think, to be i public opinion on this is . mixed, i think, to be fair. people _ mixed, i think, to be fair. people want _ mixed, i think, to be fair. people want to _ mixed, i think, to be fair. people want to see - mixed, i think, to be fair. people want to see the i mixed, i think, to be fair. i people want to see the israeli, 60.000 — people want to see the israeli, 60,000 citizens— people want to see the israeli, 60,000 citizens who - people want to see the israeli, 60,000 citizens who have i people want to see the israeli, | 60,000 citizens who have been
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displaced — 60,000 citizens who have been displaced in _ 60,000 citizens who have been displaced in the _ 60,000 citizens who have been displaced in the north— 60,000 citizens who have been displaced in the north as - 60,000 citizens who have been displaced in the north as a i displaced in the north as a result— displaced in the north as a result of— displaced in the north as a result of hezbollah's - displaced in the north as a i result of hezbollah's actions, that— result of hezbollah's actions, that people _ result of hezbollah's actions, that people want _ result of hezbollah's actions, that people want to - result of hezbollah's actions, that people want to see i result of hezbollah's actions, i that people want to see those people — that people want to see those people get— that people want to see those people get home, _ that people want to see those people get home, they- that people want to see those people get home, they want. that people want to see those i people get home, they want to see the — people get home, they want to see the return _ people get home, they want to see the return safely _ people get home, they want to see the return safely home. i people get home, they want toi see the return safely home. the israeli _ see the return safely home. the israeli government _ see the return safely home. the israeli government made - see the return safely home. the israeli government made it- see the return safely home. the israeli government made it onel israeli government made it one of the _ israeli government made it one of the core. _ israeli government made it one of the core. one _ israeli government made it one of the core, one of— israeli government made it one of the core, one of the - israeli government made it one of the core, one of the four- of the core, one of the four war— of the core, one of the four war aims— of the core, one of the four war aims of— of the core, one of the four war aims of this _ of the core, one of the four war aims of this war, - of the core, one of the four war aims of this war, and l of the core, one of the four. war aims of this war, and only earlier— war aims of this war, and only earlier this _ war aims of this war, and only earlier this week— war aims of this war, and only earlier this week the - war aims of this war, and only earlier this week the prime i earlier this week the prime minister— earlier this week the prime ministerand _ earlier this week the prime minister and defence - earlier this week the prime i minister and defence minister have — minister and defence minister have been— minister and defence minister have been speaking _ minister and defence minister have been speaking about i minister and defence ministerl have been speaking about that regularly — have been speaking about that regularly throughout _ have been speaking about that regularly throughout the - have been speaking about that| regularly throughout the week. but that— regularly throughout the week. but that doesn't _ regularly throughout the week. but that doesn't mean - regularly throughout the week. but that doesn't mean then i regularly throughout the week. | but that doesn't mean then that the israeli — but that doesn't mean then that the israeli public— but that doesn't mean then that the israeli public at _ but that doesn't mean then that the israeli public at large - the israeli public at large wants— the israeli public at large wants to _ the israeli public at large wants to see _ the israeli public at large wants to see an - the israeli public at large wants to see an increase| the israeli public at large i wants to see an increase to full-scale — wants to see an increase to full—scale war _ wants to see an increase to full—scale war with - wants to see an increase to i full—scale war with hezbollah, because — full—scale war with hezbollah, because as _ full—scale war with hezbollah, because as frank— full—scale war with hezbollah, because as frank and - full—scale war with hezbollah, because as frank and james l full—scale war with hezbollah, i because as frank and james have been _ because as frank and james have been talking _ because as frank and james have been talking about, _ because as frank and james have been talking about, people - because as frank and james have been talking about, people hate. been talking about, people hate hezbollah — been talking about, people hate hezbollah because _ been talking about, people hate hezbollah because they - been talking about, people hate hezbollah because they do i been talking about, people hate hezbollah because they do fearl hezbollah because they do fear them _ hezbollah because they do fear them and — hezbollah because they do fear them and they— hezbollah because they do fear them and they know _ hezbollah because they do fear them and they know they- hezbollah because they do fear them and they know they are l hezbollah because they do fear them and they know they are a | them and they know they are a powerful— them and they know they are a powerful foe~ _ them and they know they are a powerful foe. they _ them and they know they are a powerful foe. they have - them and they know they are a powerful foe. they have a i powerful foe. they have a significant _ powerful foe. they have a significant number- powerful foe. they have a significant number of i powerful foe. they have a i significant number of rockets that — significant number of rockets that can _ significant number of rockets that can strike _ significant number of rockets that can strike targets - significant number of rockets that can strike targets in i that can strike targets in israel— that can strike targets in israel and _ that can strike targets in israel and should - that can strike targets in i israel and should hezbollah decide _ israel and should hezbollah decide to _ israel and should hezbollah decide to unleash _ israel and should hezbollah decide to unleash them. i l israel and should hezbollah- decide to unleash them. i think people — decide to unleash them. i think people want— decide to unleash them. i think people want to _ decide to unleash them. i think people want to see _ decide to unleash them. i think people want to see peace, i decide to unleash them. i thinkj people want to see peace, they want _ people want to see peace, they want to— people want to see peace, they want to see _ people want to see peace, they want to see a _ people want to see peace, they want to see a ceasefire - people want to see peace, they want to see a ceasefire and i want to see a ceasefire and they— want to see a ceasefire and they want _ want to see a ceasefire and they want to _ want to see a ceasefire and they want to see _ want to see a ceasefire and they want to see hezbollah| they want to see hezbollah degraded _ they want to see hezbollah degraded but _ they want to see hezbollah degraded but it— they want to see hezbollah degraded but it doesn't- they want to see hezbollah i degraded but it doesn't mean they— degraded but it doesn't mean they want— degraded but it doesn't mean they want to _ degraded but it doesn't mean they want to see _ degraded but it doesn't mean they want to see a _ degraded but it doesn't mean they want to see a full—scale i they want to see a full—scale war~ — they want to see a full—scale war~ the _ they want to see a full—scale war. the thing _ they want to see a full—scale war. the thing earlier- they want to see a full—scale war. the thing earlier this i war. the thing earlier this week— war. the thing earlier this week the _ war. the thing earlier this week the defence - war. the thing earlier this| week the defence minister war. the thing earlier this i week the defence minister was
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saying — week the defence minister was saying that _ week the defence minister was saying that he _ week the defence minister was saying that he sees _ week the defence minister was saying that he sees it- week the defence minister was saying that he sees it as - week the defence minister was saying that he sees it as the i saying that he sees it as the diplomatic— saying that he sees it as the diplomatic way— saying that he sees it as the diplomatic way to _ saying that he sees it as the diplomatic way to a - saying that he sees it as the i diplomatic way to a ceasefire route, — diplomatic way to a ceasefire route, it _ diplomatic way to a ceasefire route, it is _ diplomatic way to a ceasefire route, it is narrowing, - diplomatic way to a ceasefire route, it is narrowing, and i route, it is narrowing, and that— route, it is narrowing, and that leaves _ route, it is narrowing, and that leaves military - route, it is narrowing, and that leaves military action| route, it is narrowing, and i that leaves military action is the only— that leaves military action is the only option. _ that leaves military action is the only option. and - that leaves military action is the only option. and so i that leaves military action isi the only option. and so there has been _ the only option. and so there has been a _ the only option. and so there has been a rhetoric _ the only option. and so there. has been a rhetoric throughout the week— has been a rhetoric throughout the week building _ has been a rhetoric throughout the week building up _ has been a rhetoric throughout the week building up to- has been a rhetoric throughout the week building up to that i the week building up to that that— the week building up to that that was— the week building up to that that was ahead _ the week building up to that that was ahead of _ the week building up to that that was ahead of what i the week building up to that that was ahead of what we i the week building up to that i that was ahead of what we saw in lebanon _ that was ahead of what we saw in lebanon with _ that was ahead of what we saw in lebanon with the _ in lebanon with the walkie—talkie - in lebanon with the walkie—talkie and i in lebanon with the i walkie—talkie and pager explosions. _ walkie—talkie and pager explosions. we - walkie—talkie and pager explosions. we already| walkie—talkie and pager- explosions. we already saw a ramping _ explosions. we already saw a ramping up _ explosions. we already saw a ramping up of— explosions. we already saw a ramping up of rhetoric- explosions. we already saw a ramping up of rhetoric and i explosions. we already saw a i ramping up of rhetoric and then today— ramping up of rhetoric and then today we — ramping up of rhetoric and then today we have _ ramping up of rhetoric and then today we have seen _ ramping up of rhetoric and then today we have seen the - today we have seen the announcement - today we have seen the announcementjust- today we have seen the i announcementjust minutes announcement just minutes before — announcementjust minutes before hassan _ announcementjust minutes before hassan nasrallah- announcementjust minutes i before hassan nasrallah began speaking, _ before hassan nasrallah began speaking, that— before hassan nasrallah began speaking, that the _ before hassan nasrallah began speaking, that the idf - before hassan nasrallah began speaking, that the idf was i speaking, that the idf was targeting _ speaking, that the idf was targeting hezbollah- speaking, that the idf was| targeting hezbollah targets speaking, that the idf was i targeting hezbollah targets in lebanon _ targeting hezbollah targets in lebanon air— targeting hezbollah targets in lebanon. air strikes- targeting hezbollah targets in lebanon. air strikes are - lebanon. air strikes are happening _ lebanon. air strikes are happening as _ lebanon. air strikes are happening as we - lebanon. air strikes are happening as we speak. lebanon. air strikes are i happening as we speak. they have — happening as we speak. they have been— happening as we speak. they have been taking _ happening as we speak. they have been taking place - happening as we speak. they have been taking place over. happening as we speak. they i have been taking place over the last hour— have been taking place over the last hour or— have been taking place over the last hour or so. _ have been taking place over the last hour or so. in— have been taking place over the last hour or so. in southern- last hour or so. in southern lebanon _ last hour or so. in southern lebanon we _ last hour or so. in southern lebanon. we are _ last hour or so. in southern lebanon. we are hearing i last hour or so. in southern- lebanon. we are hearing reports from _ lebanon. we are hearing reports from colleagues _ lebanon. we are hearing reports from colleagues in _ lebanon. we are hearing reports from colleagues in beirut - lebanon. we are hearing reports from colleagues in beirut there i from colleagues in beirut there israeli — from colleagues in beirut there israeli fighter— from colleagues in beirut there israeli fighterjets_ from colleagues in beirut there israeli fighterjets have - from colleagues in beirut there israeli fighterjets have been i israeli fighterjets have been flying — israeli fighterjets have been flying very— israeli fighterjets have been flying very low— israeli fighterjets have been flying very low over- israeli fighterjets have been flying very low over beirut i israeli fighterjets have been i flying very low over beirut and they— flying very low over beirut and they have _ flying very low over beirut and they have been _ flying very low over beirut and they have been hearing - flying very low over beirut and they have been hearing sonic. they have been hearing sonic booms — they have been hearing sonic booms. everything _ they have been hearing sonic booms. everything is- they have been hearing sonic. booms. everything is happening really— booms. everything is happening really as— booms. everything is happening really as we _ booms. everything is happening really as we speak. _ booms. everything is happening really as we speak.— really as we speak. daniil let me bring _ really as we speak. daniil let me bring you _ really as we speak. daniil let me bring you another - really as we speak. daniil let me bring you another couple j really as we speak. daniil let i me bring you another couple of lines that we have just heard where hassan nasrallah said the
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group has increased readiness of all weapons and all fighters but then goes on to say quite a significant thing. he has said, and it is a message to israeli officials, that they will not be able to return residents of northern israel. that very specifically, even overnight, i think benjamin netanyahu said on x, that that was the aim for some of the actions we have seen over the last couple of days. seen over the last couple of da s. ., , seen over the last couple of da s. . , , ., ., days. that is the stated aim. until this _ days. that is the stated aim. until this week _ days. that is the stated aim. until this week the _ days. that is the stated aim. until this week the israeli i until this week the israeli government, _ until this week the israeli government, the - until this week the israeli government, the israeli i government, the israeli security— government, the israeli security cabinet- government, the israeli security cabinet of- government, the israeli security cabinet of the i government, the israeli i security cabinet of the israeli government. _ security cabinet of the israeli government, had _ security cabinet of the israeli government, had three - security cabinet of the israeli government, had three corel security cabinet of the israeli i government, had three core war goals— government, had three core war goals of— government, had three core war goals of this _ government, had three core war goals of this war— government, had three core war goals of this war that _ government, had three core war goals of this war that started i goals of this war that started with— goals of this war that started with the _ goals of this war that started with the october— goals of this war that started with the october the - goals of this war that started with the october the 7th i with the october the 7th attacks— with the october the 7th attacks by— with the october the 7th attacks by hamas - with the october the 7th attacks by hamas for i with the october the 7th - attacks by hamas for something they added _ attacks by hamas for something they added a _ attacks by hamas for something they added a fourth _ attacks by hamas for something they added a fourth and - attacks by hamas for something they added a fourth and that i they added a fourth and that was the _ they added a fourth and that was the return _ they added a fourth and that was the return of— they added a fourth and that was the return of those i they added a fourth and that i was the return of those 60,000 on citizens— was the return of those 60,000 on citizens to _ was the return of those 60,000 on citizens to their— was the return of those 60,000 on citizens to their homes. i on citizens to their homes. that— on citizens to their homes. that was_ on citizens to their homes. that was a _ on citizens to their homes. that was a formalisation . on citizens to their homes. i that was a formalisation of on citizens to their homes. - that was a formalisation of the northern— that was a formalisation of the northern front _ that was a formalisation of the northern front being _ that was a formalisation of the northern front being part - that was a formalisation of the northern front being part of - northern front being part of this— northern front being part of this war _ northern front being part of this war. it's _ northern front being part of this war. it's not _ northern front being part of this war. it's not just - this war. it's notjust something _ this war. it's notjust something that - this war. it's notjust something that is . this war. it's not just - something that is happening away— something that is happening away from _ something that is happening away from gaza, _ something that is happening away from gaza, it - something that is happening away from gaza, it is - something that is happening away from gaza, it is part. something that is happening away from gaza, it is part of| away from gaza, it is part of the — away from gaza, it is part of the same _ away from gaza, it is part of the same war. _ away from gaza, it is part of
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the same war. then- away from gaza, it is part of the same war. then we - away from gaza, it is part of the same war. then we saw| away from gaza, it is part of. the same war. then we saw the defence — the same war. then we saw the defence minister— the same war. then we saw the defence minister yesterday - defence minister yesterday visiting _ defence minister yesterday visiting a _ defence minister yesterday visiting a basin— defence minister yesterday visiting a basin not- defence minister yesterday visiting a basin not far- defence minister yesterday| visiting a basin not far from lebanon _ visiting a basin not far from lebanon talking _ visiting a basin not far from lebanon talking about - visiting a basin not far from lebanon talking about the i lebanon talking about the centre _ lebanon talking about the centre of— lebanon talking about the centre of gravity- lebanon talking about the centre of gravity of- lebanon talking about the centre of gravity of this i lebanon talking about the i centre of gravity of this war moving _ centre of gravity of this war moving northwards, - centre of gravity of this war moving northwards, saying| centre of gravity of this war- moving northwards, saying there was a _ moving northwards, saying there was a new— moving northwards, saying there was a new phase _ moving northwards, saying there was a new phase in— moving northwards, saying there was a new phase in this - moving northwards, saying there was a new phase in this war. - was a new phase in this war. they— was a new phase in this war. they are _ was a new phase in this war. they are not _ was a new phase in this war. they are not talking - was a new phase in this war. they are not talking about. was a new phase in this war. they are not talking about a | they are not talking about a different _ they are not talking about a different war, _ they are not talking about a different war, they- they are not talking about a different war, they are - they are not talking about a l different war, they are talking about — different war, they are talking about the _ different war, they are talking about the same _ different war, they are talking about the same conflict. - different war, they are talkingi about the same conflict. what we are — about the same conflict. what we are seeing— about the same conflict. what we are seeing today _ about the same conflict. what we are seeing today is - about the same conflict. what we are seeing today is a - we are seeing today is a continuation _ we are seeing today is a continuation of- we are seeing today is a continuation of that. - we are seeing today is a i continuation of that. we we are seeing today is a - continuation of that. we just don't — continuation of that. we just don't know— continuation of that. we just don't know where _ continuation of that. we just don't know where it - continuation of that. we just don't know where it is - continuation of that. we just don't know where it is going| continuation of that. we just . don't know where it is going to id don't know where it is going to go next. — don't know where it is going to go next, because _ don't know where it is going to go next, because although - go next, because although israet— go next, because although israet has _ go next, because although israel has spoken - go next, because although israel has spoken about i go next, because although . israel has spoken about their goat— israel has spoken about their goat that— israel has spoken about their goal that being _ israel has spoken about their goal that being to— israel has spoken about their goal that being to return - israel has spoken about their goal that being to return the| goal that being to return the citizens _ goal that being to return the citizens home, _ goal that being to return the citizens home, they- goal that being to return the citizens home, they haven'ti goal that being to return the . citizens home, they haven't had much _ citizens home, they haven't had much said — citizens home, they haven't had much said how— citizens home, they haven't had much said how they— citizens home, they haven't had much said how they are - citizens home, they haven't had much said how they are going . citizens home, they haven't had| much said how they are going to do it _ much said how they are going to do it air— much said how they are going to do it. air strikes _ much said how they are going to do it. air strikes have _ much said how they are going to do it. air strikes have been- do it. air strikes have been taking _ do it. air strikes have been taking place _ do it. air strikes have been taking place today - do it. air strikes have been taking place today and - do it. air strikes have been| taking place today and they have — taking place today and they have been— taking place today and they have been taking _ taking place today and they have been taking place - taking place today and they have been taking place fori taking place today and theyi have been taking place for a tong — have been taking place for a tong time _ have been taking place for a long time now. _ have been taking place for a long time now. there - have been taking place for a long time now. there is - have been taking place for a long time now. there is a i long time now. there is a question— long time now. there is a question about _ long time now. there is a question about whether. long time now. there is a i question about whether that enough _ question about whether that enough to— question about whether that enough to achieve _ question about whether that enough to achieve this - question about whether that enough to achieve this war i enough to achieve this war goat — enough to achieve this war goat in _ enough to achieve this war goat in the _ enough to achieve this war goal. in the israeli- enough to achieve this war - goal. in the israeli government hasn't — goal. in the israeli government hasn't said _ goal. in the israeli government hasn't said what _ goal. in the israeli government hasn't said what else _ goal. in the israeli government hasn't said what else it - goal. in the israeli government hasn't said what else it may . hasn't said what else it may do — hasn't said what else it may do no— hasn't said what else it may do no one _ hasn't said what else it may do. no one is _ hasn't said what else it may do. no one is anticipating . hasn't said what else it may i do. no one is anticipating the operation, _ do. no one is anticipating the operation, the _ do. no one is anticipating the operation, the explosions - do. no one is anticipating the operation, the explosions in. operation, the explosions in lebanon _ operation, the explosions in lebanon this— operation, the explosions in lebanon this week - operation, the explosions in lebanon this week with - lebanon this week with walkie—talkies- lebanon this week with walkie—talkies and - lebanon this week with . walkie—talkies and pagers. israet— walkie—talkies and pagers. israel hasn't _ walkie—talkies and pagers. israel hasn't said - walkie—talkies and pagers. israel hasn't said it - walkie—talkies and pagers. israel hasn't said it is - israel hasn't said it is responsible - israel hasn't said it is responsible but- israel hasn't said it is responsible but it - israel hasn't said it is responsible but it is i israel hasn't said it is - responsible but it is widely thought— responsible but it is widely thought to _ responsible but it is widely thought to be _ responsible but it is widely thought to be responsible. responsible but it is widely- thought to be responsible. we don't — thought to be responsible. we don't know— thought to be responsible. we don't know what _ thought to be responsible. we don't know what else - thought to be responsible. we don't know what else might i don't know what else might happen _ don't know what else might happen. we _ don't know what else might happen. we just— don't know what else might happen. we just don't- don't know what else might| happen. we just don't know
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don't know what else might i happen. we just don't know at this stage _ happen. we just don't know at this stage. the _ happen. we just don't know at this stage. the fact _ happen. we just don't know at this stage. the fact that - this stage. the fact that hassan— this stage. the fact that hassan nasrallah - this stage. the fact that hassan nasrallah is - this stage. the fact that. hassan nasrallah is saying this stage. the fact that - hassan nasrallah is saying that is clearly, _ hassan nasrallah is saying that is clearly, he _ hassan nasrallah is saying that is clearly, he is _ hassan nasrallah is saying that is clearly, he is answering - hassan nasrallah is saying that is clearly, he is answering the. is clearly, he is answering the israeti — is clearly, he is answering the israeli government, _ is clearly, he is answering the israeli government, he - is clearly, he is answering the israeli government, he is - israeli government, he is saying. _ israeli government, he is saying. you _ israeli government, he is saying. you are _ israeli government, he is saying, you are not - israeli government, he isj saying, you are not going israeli government, he is i saying, you are not going to achieve _ saying, you are not going to achieve your _ saying, you are not going to achieve your war— saying, you are not going to achieve your war goal- saying, you are not going to achieve your war goal and l saying, you are not going toi achieve your war goal and he saying, you are not going to i achieve your war goal and he is calling — achieve your war goal and he is calling their _ achieve your war goal and he is calling their bluff. _ achieve your war goal and he is calling their bluff.— calling their bluff. daniel, thanks very _ calling their bluff. daniel, thanks very much. - calling their bluff. daniel, thanks very much. we - calling their bluff. daniel, | thanks very much. we will calling their bluff. daniel, - thanks very much. we will talk again in the next hour. ijust want to put more flesh to what daniel was saying there. we had a news conference in the last couple of hours ago from the israeli government spokesman who was just being asked questions and talking about what we have seen already overnight and today which was israel responding to rockets being fired into israel by hezbollah. have a listen. israel is responding with force to this aggression by hezbollah. we will use all means necessary to restore security to our northern border and to safely return our citizens to their homes. we will respond with force to this unprovoked aggression from hezbollah. that was david mensa in the last couple of hours before we started hearing from
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her son nasrallah. james, let's take stock. we are almost an hour into what we have been hearing from hezbollah's leader. where do you think we are? trying to navigate what has been said, some of the fiery rhetoric, some of the historical recap of what has happened over the last 48 hours— where do you think we are? hours- where do you think we are? ~ , . are? we end where we started, which is what _ are? we end where we started, which is what does _ are? we end where we started, which is what does hezbollah i which is what does hezbollah actuatty — which is what does hezbollah actually do, rather than the words — actually do, rather than the words we hear today? what is interesting from what we are hearing — interesting from what we are hearing today is there a mixture _ hearing today is there a mixture of contrition. we have taken — mixture of contrition. we have taken a — mixture of contrition. we have taken a hit _ mixture of contrition. we have taken a hit here. there is also a degree _ taken a hit here. there is also a degree of, well, it is not as bad _ a degree of, well, it is not as bad as— a degree of, well, it is not as bad as it _ a degree of, well, it is not as bad as it could be. he has given— bad as it could be. he has given us— bad as it could be. he has given us some detail. he said not att— given us some detail. he said not all the pages were being held — not all the pages were being held by— not all the pages were being held by senior hezbollah commanders. some of them had been _ commanders. some of them had been distributed. some of them didn't— been distributed. some of them didn't explode. he is trying to minimise _ didn't explode. he is trying to minimise some of the impact. but he — minimise some of the impact. but he is _ minimise some of the impact. but he is also calling the bluff _ but he is also calling the bluff of _ but he is also calling the bluff of the israelis, saying explicitly, i hope israel does
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enter— explicitly, i hope israel does enter southern lebanon because he said. — enter southern lebanon because he said, quote, it will give us an historic— he said, quote, it will give us an historic opportunity. in other— an historic opportunity. in other words he is trying to sound _ other words he is trying to sound bullish. as we said earlier— sound bullish. as we said earlier it _ sound bullish. as we said earlier it is a kind of pep talk— earlier it is a kind of pep talk for— earlier it is a kind of pep talk for an organisation that has taken a major strategic, tactical— has taken a major strategic, tactical and morale below. this is the _ tactical and morale below. this is the leader trying to get that— is the leader trying to get that organisation back on its two — that organisation back on its two feet, _ that organisation back on its two feet, saying we are still here, — two feet, saying we are still here, we _ two feet, saying we are still here, we can still make an impact _ here, we can still make an impact. there is an element of bring _ impact. there is an element of bring it— impact. there is an element of bring it onto the israelis but all of— bring it onto the israelis but all of this willjust add to the — all of this willjust add to the tensions and add to the fears— the tensions and add to the fears that this could escalate out of — fears that this could escalate out of control in a way that either— out of control in a way that either side doesn't anticipate. give _ either side doesn't anticipate. give me — either side doesn't anticipate. give me an idea of diplomatically what is happening, especially out of washington. with anthony lincoln, we see him shuttling through various capitals, quite often saying the same thing about the need to de—escalate and yesterday they had no prior knowledge of what was going to happen there in lebanon with these explosions. they were gathering the facts. but
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behind—the—scenes, is there disquiet at some of the new tactics the israelis are using, the new phase as they are introducing?— the new phase as they are introducing? the last time antony blinken _ introducing? the last time antony blinken said - introducing? the last time i antony blinken said anything publicly was yesterday when he was standing next to the egyptian foreign minister after a meeting there, before he came to paris. he made it absolutely clear that a ceasefire in gaza was the key to all of this. he complained about events, things escalating, getting on the way of getting a deal, which was clearly a reference to the events of recent days. clearly there is a degree of frustration. if you talk to american officials there is a degree of frustration that we are seeing at the moment limits on us influence over israeli policy. but at the same time they will continue to be a lot of american messaging to the israeli saying you have got to hold back, you have to resist
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further escalation. but at the same time the americans will be talking to allies saying any connections you have with hezbollah let's talk, try and pour some oil on these troubled waters just to keep this manageable at the moment. i manageable at the moment. i suppose the worry is whether antony blinken is simply being ignored now. antony blinken is simply being ignored now— ignored now. yes, that is the question- _ ignored now. yes, that is the question. are _ ignored now. yes, that is the question. are we _ ignored now. yes, that is the question. are we seeing - ignored now. yes, that is the question. are we seeing the | question. are we seeing the limits of american influence in the middle east at the moment? the knowledge i would give here, — the knowledge i would give here, is— the knowledge i would give here, is imagine, forgive me for dumbing down a little, but imagine — for dumbing down a little, but imagine if i come up to you and ipoint— imagine if i come up to you and i point you— imagine if i come up to you and i point you in the face. you are — i point you in the face. you are going _ i point you in the face. you are going to be pretty cross with — are going to be pretty cross with me _ are going to be pretty cross with me. there is antony biinken— with me. there is antony blinken sitting over here saying. _ blinken sitting over here saying, oh no, hang on, matthew, don't retaliate. calm down — matthew, don't retaliate. calm down you _ matthew, don't retaliate. calm down. you are going to want to retaliate — down. you are going to want to retaliate and that is the feeling right now amongst the hezbollah fighters, many of whom — hezbollah fighters, many of whom have life changing injuries. whom have life changing in'uries., . whom have life changing injuries— whom have life changing in'uries., , . , injuries. just in the last few seconds the _ injuries. just in the last few seconds the latest - injuries. just in the last few seconds the latest line - injuries. just in the last few i seconds the latest line coming from that briefing, saying the
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attacks on tuesday and wednesday will meet just punishment. it comes back to something you said earlier on which was it doesn't necessarily mean that the action, that response, will come now. action, that response, will come now— action, that response, will come now. . , . ., come now. there as that. one of the things _ come now. there as that. one of the things i _ come now. there as that. one of the things i think _ come now. there as that. one of the things i think we, _ come now. there as that. one of the things i think we, in - come now. there as that. one of the things i think we, in the - the things i think we, in the international community and the media, _ international community and the media, and particularly in the west. — media, and particularly in the west. we _ media, and particularly in the west, we underestimate the resilience of outfits like hezbollah and hamas, and the tatiban— hezbollah and hamas, and the taliban in— hezbollah and hamas, and the taliban in afghanistan. we tend to think— taliban in afghanistan. we tend to think superior firepower is going — to think superior firepower is going to _ to think superior firepower is going to dominate. it doesn't always — going to dominate. it doesn't alwa s. . ~ , . ~ going to dominate. it doesn't alwa s. . ,, , . ,, going to dominate. it doesn't alwa s. . . ~' ., always. frankly, thank you for bein: always. frankly, thank you for being with _ always. frankly, thank you for being with me, _ always. frankly, thank you for being with me, james, - always. frankly, thank you for being with me, james, thankl always. frankly, thank you for i being with me, james, thank you for being with me. i know you are going to stay. ijust want to end this hour by taking you back and showing there's life pictures. hassan nasrallah continues to make that statement. we are monitoring all the time. we will be back to that here in the next few moments. don't go away. much more reaction to what we are hearing but those attacks on
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lebanon and this, the response from hezbollah's leader. hello there. good afternoon. well, it's still warm and dry today, with plenty more blue sky and sunshine to come, despite that rather murky start. now, yesterday, temperatures reached 26 celsius in the far north of scotland. here today it's slightly cooler, but still the sunshine continues, particularly out towards the west. and for the rest of the week, well, temperatures remain above the seasonal average. it's going to be cooler and cloudier always for eastern—facing coasts. expect some wet weather across the southern half of the uk on friday and through the weekend. but high pressure dominates today so it is again largely dry. small chance of an isolated shower across the south of england. we're seeing all of that low cloud still burning back towards these eastern—facing coasts, where it could lingerfor some time, and with the onshore breeze here, it's always going to be feeling cooler.
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we'll keep that cloud across parts of aberdeenshire, perhaps down to east anglia. highest temperatures for the far south—east of england, but still warm for western scotland and for northern ireland in particular. as we head through this evening and overnight, then, it's the same thing all over again. so the clearest of the skies out towards the north and the west. expect some mist and fog patches to develop here. it's going to be a chilly start to the day tomorrow. the cloud again is going to work its way westwards. very mild in the southeast — 11—15 or 16 c here into friday morning. now again, that mist and fog will lift and clear readily through the morning. there will be some sunshine for the north and the west. again, it's quite a murky start for many. showers will start to pop up across east anglia, the southeast of england, track their way further westwards, maybe a rumble or two of thunder and some heavy downpours of rain. it is still warm, though — 20—23 celsius in the far south and the east, and still 23 degrees, and the best of the sunshine, for western scotland. expect to see more wet weather too on saturday. again, some heavy, possibly thundery showers pushing in from the south with this unstable air across wales and the southern half of england.
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but again, further north with high pressure hanging on, then it's still going to be dry. and once again, the best of the sunshine will be for western scotland, north west england and for northern ireland. and then there'll be more widespread thundery showers potentially on sunday. that all clears away as we head into monday. and then on tuesday we're back to southwesterly winds. it's going to be quite unsettled as we head through next week, and it could possibly turn a lot colder too. bye— bye.
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live from london, this is bbc news. hezbollah's leader accuses israel of "crossing all red lines" by detonating thousands of devices across lebanon, calling the attacks in which 37 were killed a "declaration of war." israel's military announces fresh strikes against hezbollah targets in lebanon, saying it's bringing "security to northern israel." the bbc reveals that the former harrods boss — the late mohamed al—fayed — has been accused of rape by five female ex—employees. hello, i'm matthew amroliwala. welcome to verified live. in the last hour, we've been monitoring a speech from
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