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israel's war is not with you. it's with hezbollah. for too long, hezbollah has been using you as human shields. this evening, israel was striking targets in the bekaa valley in the east. the idf is saying it has destroyed in one day what has taken hezbollah 20 years to build. this is the dilemma that israel faces, that even as it ups- the ante against hezbollah, it is encouraging or it is- inciting, if you like, hezbollah to attack| further into israel. and so far, no sign of those attacks diminishing. - if anything, - they are increasing. netanyahu's not an easy character at all, and he's not likely to do anything unless a cost is inflicted on him that the country can no longer fathom.
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the united states is sending more troops to the middle east as israel continues to pound targets across lebanon, including the capital, beirut. president biden says his team is working to de—escalate the crisis, not a strategy that to this point that has been very effective. how concerned should we be of a wider, regional conflagration? also tonight, labour's plans to bolster uk investment — we will explore whether the chancellor really can find the space for extra government spending. and coming to america — president zelensky begins a week—long tour of the states that will end with his plan to defeat russia. we will see if we can fix the gremlins with our sound along the way. welcome to the programme. for 11 months now, israel and hezbollah have been locked
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in an escalating war of attrition that many had warned could one day lead to all—out conflict. maybe this was the day. the israelis have been pounding targets. the idf says it has hit around 1100 hezbollah positions in southern lebanon, the bekaa valley, and in deraa in south beirut. more than 350 people were killed and more than 1000 injured in the bombardment, but dozens of rockets were also fired the other way into northern israel, which suggests hezbollah will continue to resist. the pentagon says it's sending "a small number" of additional us troops to the middle east amid the growing crisis. from beirut, our senior international correspondent 0rla guerin reports southern lebanon awoke to this. it looks like all—out war. the israeli army said it hit 800 sites linked to hezbollah.
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it issued gaza—style warnings, telling residents to go, but they had little time to act. we asked residents of lebanese villages to pay attention to the message and warning published by the idf and heed them. this is an advance warning for your own safety and the safety of your family. but where to find safety in the middle of all this? and on the roads from the south, a mass exodus. ahmed says everyone fled his village because of air strikes and destruction. "there's no—one left," he says. "we took our belongings and went." so many new homeless now in this expanding war. in beirut, too, fear on the
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streets and a rush to get home. are you feeling afraid? "sure," mohammed tells me. "i'm afraid for myself, my wife and my five children. i don't know what to do. how long will we be living through this? we can't keep going." parents were summoned to schools to pick up their children early. "there were threats by phone," he says, "that they'll hit beirut." some in the capital have been getting recorded messages telling them to leave. that includes lebanon's information ministry. for months, there have been fears of a wider war. now the waiting is over. it's here. israel's escalation is a huge
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risk, and notjust for lebanon, but for the whole middle east. 0rla guerin, bbc news, beirut. let mejust show let me just show you the live pictures from jerusalem. we are watching the podium where daniel hagari, actually tel aviv i'm told, he will speak in the next few minutes. this will be in english and we will get an update from the government on their strategy which you will talk about. with me in the studio is our chief international correspondent lyse doucet, and alsojoining from dubai, gregg carlstrom, who is the middle east correspondent for the economist. let's just start with you, lyse, if i could, on the balance of things, where would you put things tonight? he balance of things, where would you put things tonight?- you put things tonight? he has been a very — you put things tonight? he has been a very deadly _ you put things tonight? he has been a very deadly day, - been a very deadly day, unprecedented numbers. israel is think it hit more than 800 targets. that's the highest of
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any day since october the 8th when this tit—for—tat began across the israel— limit on border. and hezbollah fired a record number of missiles into northern israel, 165, and i'm sure the numbers are going to continue to go up. and present numbers of casualties, too, on the lebanese side. it is prime minister netanyahu who use the word balance, they wanted to change the balance in the door. he said they were destroying what hezbollah has built up over the past two decades. so we are waiting for this statement. it's clear this is not going to be the end of this. this is the beginning, and of course with this ratcheting up, more stairs at the escalatory letter, the question is always what can bring them down the ladder? are they going to keep going up? i they going to keep going up? i understand what the strategy is here on in. let's start with hezbollah. what was nasrallah's
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after october the 7th and what are they for themselves tonight being dragging lebanon into another war? the being dragging lebanon into another war?— being dragging lebanon into another war? , . , ., another war? the strategy after october the _ another war? the strategy after october the 7th _ another war? the strategy after october the 7th was _ another war? the strategy after october the 7th was to - another war? the strategy after october the 7th was to launch l october the 7th was to launch what — october the 7th was to launch what he — october the 7th was to launch what he called a support front in solidarity with hamas and gaze — in solidarity with hamas and gaza. the idea was too tight and — gaza. the idea was too tight and a — gaza. the idea was too tight and a percentage of israel's troops _ and a percentage of israel's troops along the northern border_ troops along the northern border and to put military pressure on israel that might eventually compel into ending the war— eventually compel into ending the war in gaza, reaching a cease-fire _ the war in gaza, reaching a cease—fire with hamas. it has not been _ cease—fire with hamas. it has not been successful at doing that — not been successful at doing that it — not been successful at doing that. it has directly to the north— that. it has directly to the north of— that. it has directly to the north of israel. some 50,000 people — north of israel. some 50,000 people have fled their homes or have _ people have fled their homes or have not— people have fled their homes or have not been able to go back for almost a year, but the military— for almost a year, but the military pressure that hezbollah is put on israel has not compelled it to end the war in gaze — not compelled it to end the war in gaza. that war is still going _ in gaza. that war is still going almost a year later, and i don't — going almost a year later, and i don't think that's a scenario idon't think that's a scenario that— i don't think that's a scenario that hassan nasrallah anticipated when he began this anticipated when he began this a year— anticipated when he began this
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a year ago. now i find himself in the — a year ago. now i find himself in the position to end the show of solidarity with hamas and gaza, — of solidarity with hamas and gaza, to _ of solidarity with hamas and gaza, to stop firing to be a huge — gaza, to stop firing to be a huge humiliation for him and iran— huge humiliation for him and iran and _ huge humiliation for him and iran and other proxies in the region— iran and other proxies in the region or— iran and other proxies in the region or continue fighting as he is — region or continue fighting as he is done in the rift is ever greater escalation in the fight with israel.— with israel. and what about israel? separate _ with israel. and what about israel? separate to - with israel. and what about israel? separate to the - israel? separate to the strategy in gaza, their idea was to push hezbollah beyond the river according to resolution 1701, which was tied up resolution 1701, which was tied up after the 2006 war that we both covered. was that ever likely to be achievable that the kind of war we are now staring at? i the kind of war we are now staring at?— the kind of war we are now staring at? i went back and looked at _ staring at? i went back and looked at what _ staring at? i went back and looked at what with - staring at? i went back and looked at what with the - staring at? i went back and i looked at what with the aims staring at? i went back and - looked at what with the aims of the ninth 96 war, and i was based in the region that, and a 2006 war that we both saw in israel and lebanon and the aims of the same this time. they want to degrade, to stop hezbollah's ability to fire rockets into israel, and to set “p rockets into israel, and to set up a list of north of the river, in other words further
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away from the israel— lebanon border. and in this case, they want to allow these some 60,000 israelis who were taken out of their homes under hezbollah fire last october, 11 to return to their homes. these new war aims were suddenly added to the other war aims for gaza. it was not clear why they were added then. but now it's clear that what has been called from the beginning of the gaza war the second front is now the hottest one, even though the fighting is still continuing in gaza today and of course no sign of that even cease—fire which would in the suffering of gaza and bring israeli hostages home. �* , , . home. but there is precedent, len of home. but there is precedent, plenty of it. — home. but there is precedent, plenty of it. if— home. but there is precedent, plenty of it, if you _ home. but there is precedent, plenty of it, if you want - home. but there is precedent, plenty of it, if you want to - home. but there is precedent, plenty of it, if you want to go l plenty of it, if you want to go backin plenty of it, if you want to go back in history. they tried to create this buffer zone after the war in 1982. that israeli presents up to the river was there i think when they knew there i think when they knew the records are coming over the
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top and israeli were being killed. is there any suggestion this would be any different? know, and that is why hezbollah came _ know, and that is why hezbollah came to — know, and that is why hezbollah came to exist in the first place. _ came to exist in the first place, was that 18 year occupation by israel of south lebanon _ occupation by israel of south lebanon. hezbollah came up as a group _ lebanon. hezbollah came up as a group that— lebanon. hezbollah came up as a group that was fighting against that israeli occupation, and that— that israeli occupation, and that when a fair amount of support_ that when a fair amount of support notjust from its assiduously in lebanon but from assiduously in lebanon but from a broader— assiduously in lebanon but from a broader cross—section of lebanese. sol a broader cross—section of lebanese. so i think 2.5 decades— lebanese. so i think 2.5 decades later there is no reason _ decades later there is no reason to think that an israeli occupation of supplement i would _ occupation of supplement i would in any different. and it would — would in any different. and it would come at a time when hezbollah has bled a lot of a sopport _ hezbollah has bled a lot of a support inside of lebanon. there _ support inside of lebanon. there are many people who are angry— there are many people who are angry at— there are many people who are angry at its decision to get involved _ angry at its decision to get involved in this war on behalf of hamas, to bring war to lebanon _ of hamas, to bring war to lebanon. that anger is growing in recent— lebanon. that anger is growing in recent days after the pager and walkie—talkie attacks and then— and walkie—talkie attacks and then this _ and walkie—talkie attacks and then this very heavy series of air strikes— then this very heavy series of air strikes over the past couple _ air strikes over the past couple of days. there are a lot of people _ couple of days. there are a lot of people in lebanon who were
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furious — of people in lebanon who were furious with the group because it has— furious with the group because it has embarked on a war that is does — it has embarked on a war that is does not seem to have any way— is does not seem to have any way to— is does not seem to have any way to win, it is nothing to have — way to win, it is nothing to have any— way to win, it is nothing to have any way to get out of most of the _ have any way to get out of most of the one — have any way to get out of most of the one thing that might help— of the one thing that might help it _ of the one thing that might help it regain some popularity in lebanon and regain a sort of reason — in lebanon and regain a sort of reason for— in lebanon and regain a sort of reason for being would be an israeli — reason for being would be an israeli grant invasion of lebanon that would allow hezbollah once again to say that — hezbollah once again to say that it is _ hezbollah once again to say that it is a resistance movement fighting against a israeli — movement fighting against a israeli invasion of lebanon. to do it— israeli invasion of lebanon. to do it again _ israeli invasion of lebanon. to do it again not having learned a lesson— do it again not having learned a lesson to the last 18 year experience occupying supplement i will experience occupying supplement i will be _ experience occupying supplement i will be the height of folly. interesting and he very clearly set out what the strategy for hezbollah was from the beginning of this second front in the gaza war, and of course there is also the other element of it, which is that from the beginning, both iran, hezbollah have tried to act in a way which raise the temperature but never raised it so high that this would tumble into an all out war in which they would
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both pay very dearly. and this has seemed to have in the strategy of hassan hassan nasrallah from his very first speech that he made in the midst of the rising tensions but what is happened is hezbollah has suffered month in, month out. the assassination of its top commanders although we are hearing out that one he was reported by israeli media to be killed is nowjust injured. that's what hezbollah said. those spectacular paging attacks, walkie—talkie attacks either killed or mutilated a large number of its mid ranking officers. and they are suffering a lot. and of course the israeli rocket fire. this deal is not an all—out war. we can get a lot worse on both sides, but it has a city escalation which hezbollah is losing a lot. escalation which hezbollah is losing a lot-— losing a lot. just on that oint, losing a lot. just on that point. we _ losing a lot. just on that point, we have - losing a lot. just on that point, we have not- losing a lot. just on that l point, we have not talked losing a lot. just on that - point, we have not talked about the role of iran in this if it's many years of course
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hezbollah has been the deterrent for iran. it is used hezbollah as the proxy, and now as she rightly says, they are hanging on, which drags iran a sort of turned the tables in some respects. iran having to come into a war that is not really want to be involved in. it does turn the tables, and a second — it does turn the tables, and a second time a year now the iran finds— second time a year now the iran finds itself— second time a year now the iran finds itself in an uncomfortable position. first, you had — uncomfortable position. first, you had october the 7th and by all accounts according to israeli, _ all accounts according to israeli, a and iranian officials, iran was not briefed on hamas plan for the massacre on hamas plan for the massacre on october— on hamas plan for the massacre on october the 7th and it found suddenly— on october the 7th and it found suddenly it's proxy to cross the region were being pulled into a — the region were being pulled into a conflict that it did not have — into a conflict that it did not have any— into a conflict that it did not have any say in starting and did not— have any say in starting and did not have any ability to veto _ did not have any ability to veto. now if you say hezbollah is in _ veto. now if you say hezbollah is in a — veto. now if you say hezbollah is in a position where this organisation was set up to be a rons— organisation was set up to be a ron's she'll come in to be a deterrent— ron's she'll come in to be a deterrent against israeli attack— deterrent against israeli attack or american attack on iran— attack or american attack on iran positively facilities in particular but now that deterrent actually needs help
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to deter israel. and the iranians _ to deter israel. and the iranians i think you made it clear— iranians i think you made it clear not— iranians i think you made it clear notjust over the iranians i think you made it clear not just over the past few — clear not just over the past few days _ clear not just over the past few days were over the past few months — few days were over the past few months that one thing they are really— months that one thing they are really not — months that one thing they are really not willing to do is go to battle on behalf of their proxy _ to battle on behalf of their proxy. they have not directly intervened on behalf of of hamas _ intervened on behalf of of hamas. they have not directly so far— hamas. they have not directly so far intervened on behalf of hezbollah. the only time they have — hezbollah. the only time they have really started israel was when — have really started israel was when their own personnel were being _ when their own personnel were being attacked back in april with— being attacked back in april with the strikes on their consulate in damascus. but aside — consulate in damascus. but aside from that, the iranians do not — aside from that, the iranians do not want to get directly involved in the whole point of setting — involved in the whole point of setting up these proceeds across— setting up these proceeds across the region was to keep the conflict away from their borders— the conflict away from their borders and to outsource conflict _ borders and to outsource conflict. and i think the last thing — conflict. and i think the last thing the iranians want to do is to— thing the iranians want to do is to be _ thing the iranians want to do is to be directly fighting on behalf of those proxies. which finally leaves _ behalf of those proxies. which finally leaves us _ behalf of those proxies. which finally leaves us with - behalf of those proxies. which finally leaves us with the - behalf of those proxies. which finally leaves us with the us l finally leaves us with the us to stand in support of israel hitting a prescribed team or group which continues to fire over the border at israeli homes. they sent more troops to the region today, butjoe biden again is saying we are trying to de—escalate. it is that at
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the top of that is not been terrific at this point, over a year. does america have no leverage over this?- leverage over this? family other side _ leverage over this? family other side of _ leverage over this? family other side of american - leverage over this? family - other side of american weakness in this fight most of their closest ally in the region, and allow they have been sending large quantities of military aid and financial aid to keep the war in gaza going, they came up with this expression that there was an escalation, a de—escalation. to hope that that will linger in an easing of tensions but so far that does not seem to have worked was a does not work in this region, especially when you have what we have seen a concert ratcheting up. both sides trying to establish what he referred to as that deterrent in trying to outdo their enemy. but in the process, raising the temperature and, yes my president biden is with me talking again to prime minister netanyahu has been asking him again in private and public to clinch that cease—fire in gaza and now he has had his own
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official going back and forth between beirut and tel aviv for months and months and months and in fact he was in tel aviv the night that perimeter netanyahu added lebanon to the war aims. . �* , ., netanyahu added lebanon to the war aims. . �*, ., , war aims. yeah, it's a very complex — war aims. yeah, it's a very complex picture _ war aims. yeah, it's a very complex picture but - war aims. yeah, it's a very complex picture but you i war aims. yeah, it's a very l complex picture but you said it out for us very well. thank you very much indeed good to have your company this evening. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. we were going to go to a rate but daniel hagari hagari was just speaking and he is in tel aviv and is just started. the aviv and is 'ust started. the architect_ aviv and isjust started. the architect of _ aviv and isjust started. the architect of this _ aviv and isjust started. the architect of this plan - aviv and isjust started. tie: architect of this plan and other senior force commanders in beirut, at the time of the strike, this hezbollah commanders were meeting to plan and october the 7th style
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attack in northern israel. to make sure that hezbollah cannot carry out such an attack and in order to enable all 60,000 israelis it returns to the back to their homes in northern israel, we must act against this threat. this threat is just a few hundred of metres away from the communities and families in northern israel. today, based on precise intelligence, we conducted extensive strikes against hezbollah targets in lebanon that posed an imminent threat. the idf strike 1300 targets up until now, including long—range cruise missiles, heavy weight rockets with 1000 kilo warheads. this is the same type of rocket that was used in the attack that killed 12 innocent
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children. we also struck a short medium rocket and uavs, all capable of causing major damage to civilian towns and cities. as part of our efforts to mitigate harms to civilians, we provided advanced warning to civilians in specific villages in lebanon where hezbollah embedded its military assets and weapons and warned them to move out of harm's way. however, even as we called on civilians to move away from danger, we saw that hezbollah operatives were doing the opposite and acted to prevent civilian moving safety. this is because hezbollah uses civilian population and civilian homes as a human shield for its terrorist activities. today, we exposed this strategy, showing how hezbollah uses civilian homes as a cover for the deadly
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weapons and these images, you can see how hezbollah hides long—range rockets with range of hundreds of kilometres inside the attic of a house in the heart of a village in southern lebanon. you can see here that the rocket is stored on a hydraulic system and is prepared for launch out of an opening in the roof directed at the community under this attic. a family lives and serves as a human shield for hezbollah. the idf strikes today, we saw many secondary explosions. such as this. behind every secondary explosion, there is a building containing deadly munitions, rockets and missiles, triggering such a reaction like you see here. it is likely that some of the casualties are from the secondary explosions. here you can see a house used by
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hezbollah to store its weapons. in the footage here following our strike on their weapons, secondary explosions can be clearly seen and a rocket fired and hit a nearby house. let me be clear, hezbollah is responsible for this situation. this is hezbollah's plan to turn southern lebanon into a battlefield for its attacks on israel. we cannot accept terrorist groups story weapons inside people's homes, using them to fire and other civilian communities. the international community must condemn hezbollah's grave violation of international law and actions that endanger civilians on both sides of the border. the idf makes vast efforts not to hit civilians and make every effort
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to mitigate harm to civilians during operational activity. regarding the high number of casualties, everyone is a tragedy in lebanon. among those killed were large numbers of hezbollah terrorists who work next to the places we targeted. israel has faced threats on all fronts and continuing to act against them in defence for the people of israel. we have many other missions to carry out. we have to bring back home all our hostages that are held in brutal conditions by hamas. we have to bring them back home in all means. we have to continue dismantling hamas capabilities in gaza. and we have to bring the security to every israelis in the north and in the south.
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questions please.— in the north and in the south. questions please. two questions from the ap- _ questions please. two questions from the ap. the _ questions please. two questions from the ap. the first, _ questions please. two questions from the ap. the first, israel- from the ap. the first, israel has _ from the ap. the first, israel has been _ from the ap. the first, israel has been badly hamas for nearly a year— has been badly hamas for nearly a year and — has been badly hamas for nearly a year and it still has not realised _ a year and it still has not realised all of its goals in gaza _ realised all of its goals in gaza i— realised all of its goals in gaza. i was looking at the possibility of months of fighting in lebanon as well? second _ fighting in lebanon as well? second question, if the under prepared _ second question, if the under prepared for a ground invasion prepared fora ground invasion now— prepared for a ground invasion now and — prepared for a ground invasion now and if— prepared for a ground invasion now and if the order comes up quickly— now and if the order comes up quickly good ground forces move in? , ., ., , , quickly good ground forces move in? , in? israel has been battling hamas, this _ in? israel has been battling hamas, this is _ in? israel has been battling hamas, this is true, - in? israel has been battling hamas, this is true, for - in? israel has been battling hamas, this is true, for a i hamas, this is true, for a year, yeah. micro wanted the 7th of october a horrible massacre, almost a year. we have to fight and dismantle hamas and enduring defeat. there is no other way. further security of our borders to bring home all of our hostages and all means. at the same time, the world should remember on the 8th of october, hezbollah started a war. israel
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did not attack lebanon, did not attack hezbollah. it's hezbollah on the as of october started firing on israeli civilians in the northern border and is been doing this for over 11 months with 9000 rockets and 60,000 israelis left their homes. we have to act to stop the threat of hezbollah. hezbollah was planning to do a larger scale of massacre the 7th of october in the north of israel. and we will have to make sure that in any one of our borders, we are safe and there is no threat of a 7th of october in any one of our borders, never again. a 7th of october in any one of our borders, neveragain. if the army prepared? yes, the army is in full readiness and we will do whatever is necessary to bring back home all our citizens to the northern border safely. question from c and income of
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the cabinet have to go a special— the cabinet have to go a special situation nationwide. rockets _ special situation nationwide. rockets being fired at today near — rockets being fired at today near tel— rockets being fired at today near tel aviv. you've killed hundreds _ near tel aviv. you've killed hundreds and lebanon and israel prepared — hundreds and lebanon and israel prepared for a third lebanon war? — prepared for a third lebanon war? , ., prepared for a third lebanon war? ., , ., ., ., war? the social situation that was declared _ war? the social situation that was declared by _ war? the social situation that was declared by the - war? the social situation that i was declared by the government allows us to do different kinds of things on the home front. we still have not change the policy yet. and we are looking at observing the situation, continuously on the lawn the day and we will do that also tomorrow will so that we have tomorrow will so that we have to make sure that we provide safety for our citizens, and we will do that also in attack and in defence as well. and we have to say that the resilience of israelis is what gives us a lot of power in the idf. to keep on doing attacks and defence and doing attacks and defence and doing all this warfor doing attacks and defence and doing all this war for many, many months. the resilience of the israelis is strong, and we are ready to face whatever it
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needs for the future. and regarding the condition of the third lebanon war, we are not looking for wars. we are looking for wars. we are looking to take down the threats, and there will not be a 7th of october threat in the northern border. you would have to be a safe border with hezbollah pushback from the border and there are no threats like missiles, rockets, uavs threatening our communities, our citizens. this is our mission, and we will do whatever necessary to achieve this mission. we hope to do it as shortly as we can.- as shortly as we can. daniel hauari as shortly as we can. daniel hagari and _ as shortly as we can. daniel hagari and a _ as shortly as we can. daniel hagari and a prayer- as shortly as we can. daniel hagari and a prayer service | as shortly as we can. daniel i hagari and a prayer service in tel aviv. when looking for war, he sick a member will take down all the threats. we will say goodbye to our viewers on pbs. for our other if you are staying with us, let's continue
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to listen in and see what he has to say. to listen in and see what he has to say-— has to say. going to bomb shelters- _ has to say. going to bomb shelters. those _ has to say. going to bomb shelters. those are - has to say. going to bomb. shelters. those are citizens that for over 11 months have suffered, and we are acting to change this reality was of this is what we are doing now, and we will use all the measures we need to do that and it is hezbollah who started it on the 8th of october and it has hezbollah and the forces that were prepared to do a 7th of october in the northern israel. in our mission is to create the security and the conditions for the northern of israel to go back to their homes and we will do whatever we need to achieve this goal. do whatever we need to achieve this coal. �* this goal. afp came he said this goal. afp came he said this morning _ this goal. afp came he said this morning the _ this goal. afp came he said this morning the threat - this morning the threat hezbollah poses needs to be degraded and its infrastructure need _ degraded and its infrastructure need to— degraded and its infrastructure need to be dismantled. can you please — need to be dismantled. can you please be — need to be dismantled. can you please be more specific about what — please be more specific about what the _ please be more specific about what the specific goals of the strikes — what the specific goals of the strikes are? and do you anticipate that they will be
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followed by ground operations? hezbollah holds two been capabilities. one of it is the arms and weapons that we saw that were located today in civilian homes, in civilian homes using lebanese civilians as human shields. this threat allows hezbollah to make southern lebanon, who are supposed to be secure by 1701, the resolution, it was supposed to be secure but is not. it has daily arms as we have seen today. we have the secondary explosions and the evidence i show you today. we have to make sure that hezbollah is a way from the border. far—away with no capabilities that are risking our citizens. at the same time, no forces, none next to our border with no infrastructure and capabilities. we showed today
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an aerial campaign. it is currently now an aerial campaign this is what we did and we will do whatever we need. in the next stages in order to prevent the threat of hezbollah, secure the border and create the conditions for the return safely for the citizens of northern israel. thank you. citizens of northern israel. thank yon-— citizens of northern israel. thank you. citizens of northern israel. thank ou. ., , . thank you. thank you very much. that was daniel— thank you. thank you very much. that was daniel hagari _ thank you. thank you very much. that was daniel hagari speaking l that was daniel hagari speaking in tel aviv. lyse still in the studio and gregg still with us in dubai as well. not looking for war but will taken on the threats of the present and to be any difference in strategy and the way they are approaching is the way they are approaching is the way they are approaching hezbollah to hamas.
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if i was going to use one word to describe _ if i was going to use one word to describe this _ if i was going to use one word to describe this briefing, - to describe this briefing, i would _ to describe this briefing, i would say— to describe this briefing, i would say preemptive. i to describe this briefing, ij would say preemptive. he to describe this briefing, i- would say preemptive. he made it clear— would say preemptive. he made it clear that _ would say preemptive. he made it clear that if— would say preemptive. he made it clear that if in— would say preemptive. he made it clear that if in the _ would say preemptive. he made it clear that if in the prime - it clear that if in the prime minister— it clear that if in the prime minister that— it clear that if in the prime minister that they- it clear that if in the prime minister that they were i it clear that if in the prime - minister that they were acting against — minister that they were acting against an— minister that they were acting against an imminent - minister that they were acting against an imminent threat i minister that they were acting l against an imminent threat also be kept — against an imminent threat also be kept saying _ against an imminent threat also be kept saying that _ against an imminent threat also be kept saying that hezbollah . be kept saying that hezbollah was planning _ be kept saying that hezbollah was planning as— be kept saying that hezbollah was planning as he _ be kept saying that hezbollah was planning as he put- be kept saying that hezbollah was planning as he put it - be kept saying that hezbollah was planning as he put it on i was planning as he put it on october— was planning as he put it on october the _ was planning as he put it on october the 7th _ was planning as he put it on october the 7th massacre . was planning as he put it on| october the 7th massacre to come across— october the 7th massacre to come across that _ october the 7th massacre to come across that border. . october the 7th massacre toi come across that border. you have — come across that border. you have to — come across that border. you have to wait _ come across that border. you have to wait and _ come across that border. you have to wait and see - come across that border. you have to wait and see you - come across that border. youl have to wait and see you don't have _ have to wait and see you don't have the — have to wait and see you don't have the evidence _ have to wait and see you don't have the evidence of - have to wait and see you don't have the evidence of that. - have to wait and see you don'tj have the evidence of that. will they— have the evidence of that. will they have _ have the evidence of that. will they have documents - have the evidence of that. will they have documents and - have the evidence of that. will| they have documents and head they have documents and head they find — they have documents and head they find that _ they have documents and head they find that out? _ they have documents and head they find that out? but - they have documents and head they find that out? but it's - they find that out? but it's preemptive _ they find that out? but it's preemptive post _ they find that out? but it's preemptive post that - they find that out? but it's| preemptive post that there they find that out? but it's i preemptive post that there is also — preemptive post that there is also preemptive _ preemptive post that there is also preemptive diplomacy, i also preemptive diplomacy, making _ also preemptive diplomacy, making it _ also preemptive diplomacy, making it clear— also preemptive diplomacy, making it clear that - also preemptive diplomacy, making it clear that israel. making it clear that israel warned _ making it clear that israel warned the _ making it clear that israel warned the civilians - making it clear that israel warned the civilians that i warned the civilians that israel— warned the civilians that israel is _ warned the civilians that israel is abiding - warned the civilians that israel is abiding by - israel is abiding by international- israel is abiding by international law. i israel is abiding by - international law. because it knows — international law. because it knows it's _ international law. because it knows it's already _ international law. because it knows it's already coming i international law. because it- knows it's already coming under very strong _ knows it's already coming under very strong criticism _ knows it's already coming under very strong criticism of- knows it's already coming under very strong criticism of the - very strong criticism of the attacks _ very strong criticism of the attacks which _ very strong criticism of the attacks which are - very strong criticism of the attacks which are killing i attacks which are killing civilians _ attacks which are killing civilians in _ attacks which are killing civilians in the - attacks which are killing civilians in the reports l attacks which are killing - civilians in the reports coming out of — civilians in the reports coming out of lebanese _ civilians in the reports coming out of lebanese officials - civilians in the reports coming out of lebanese officials and i out of lebanese officials and their— out of lebanese officials and their reports _ out of lebanese officials and their reports from _ out of lebanese officials and their reports from the - out of lebanese officials andl their reports from the ground that— their reports from the ground that are — their reports from the ground that are saying _ their reports from the ground that are saying women, - their reports from the ground i that are saying women, children are now— that are saying women, children are now being— that are saying women, children are now being killed. _ that are saying women, children are now being killed.— are now being killed. yeah. 3000 targets _ are now being killed. yeah. 3000 targets | _ are now being killed. yeah. 3000 targets | think - are now being killed. yeah. 3000 targets i think we - are now being killed. yeah. 3000 targets i think we are saying has been hit today. to our viewers 20 guests, welcome to bbc news we continue to discuss the situation in the
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middle east in a very, very violent day across the middle east was of his being is will probably the most number of attacks that we have seen in lebanon since october the 7th last year. greg is still with us in dubai. pick up that point that lyse was just making. there pick up that point that lyse wasjust making. there is no distinction in the strategy inviting hamas or hezbollah. that would suggest, would it not, this could go on for months? it could be what we've seen today or a much lower level. it doesn't seem to be any strategy to end it or to want to. any strategy to end it or to want to-— any strategy to end it or to want to. , ., ., ., want to. there is not. i had a stron: want to. there is not. i had a strong sense _ want to. there is not. i had a strong sense of— want to. there is not. i had a strong sense of deja - want to. there is not. i had a strong sense of deja vu - strong sense of deja vu watching that press conference. it's on very much like the press conferences that daniel hagari and others gave in the early days of the war. i think this is the question that everyone is asking — is
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