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was an locations where there was an israeli strike, it looked like a commercial building. translation: | told - you yesterday to evacuate the houses in which a missile was planted in your living room and a rocket in your garage. anyone who has a missile in their living room and a rocket in their garage will not have a home. full—scale war is not in anyone's interest. even as the situation has escalated, a diplomatic solution is still possible. if you are here in lebanon, the question is what do the next few days and weeks bring, people don't know and they are scared. on the panel this evening susan page, washington bureau chief, usa today and anna gross, political correspondent at the financial times, who isjoining us tonight from the labour party conference in liverpool. looking forward to speaking
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with my guests shortly. first, the latest headlines. lebanon's health ministry says israeli air strikes are now known to have killed over 560 people — including 50 children — with hospitals struggling to cope with the number of casualties. israel says it has killed a hezbollah commander in an air strike in beirut. in a direct address to lebanese civilians, minister benjamin netanyahu said, "our war is not with you, our war is with hezbollah." president biden has told the united nations general assembly that the world cannot grow weary and look away from supporting ukraine in its defence against russia's invasion. the president said vladimir putin's war had failed in its core aim of destroying ukraine, but support must be sustained. meanwhile — the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelensky, has told a special session of the un security council, that the war with russia cannot be calmed by talks. mr zelensky said russia could only be forced into peace by united, international action. he described iran and north korea accomplices ina criminalwar.
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sir keir starmer has promised to "build a new britain" in his first speech to the labour conference as prime minister. he said labour would not offer "easy answers" or "false hope" but would deliver a national renewal the country wanted. if you arejustjoining us welcome to the programme. when president biden first addressed the un general assembly three years ago, he promised he would restore the kind of american leadership, that he believed donald trump had walked away from. this morning in what many had billed as his legacy defining speech to the assembly he ticked through a list of world's crises, and what was the united states is doing to address them. full—scale war is not in anyone's interest, even if the situation has escalated, a diplomatic solution is still possible.
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but the fact remains, the only path to lasting security to allow the residents from both countries to return to their homes on the border safely, and that's what we are working tirelessly to achieve. but the truth is there are big questions over america's leadership, and in particular, the role this administration has played both in ukraine and the middle east. biden�*s strategy has hinged on securing a cease—fire between israel and hamas in gaza. the chances of a hostage deal look dimmer than at any time since the summer. indeed the un secretary—general thinks the risk of a regional war, has never been greater. gaza is a nonstop nightmare that threatens to take the entire region with it. look no further than lebanon. we should all be alarmed by the escalation. lebanon is at the brink. the people of lebanon, the people of israel, and the people of the world cannot afford lebanon to become another gaza. and yet despite the deep concerns all sides seem to share when it comes to this wider offensive in lebanon
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the white house says in private there is little they can do to convince israel to change course. it would seem, at least for now, that us diplomacy has its limits. let's go to new york and speak to our colleague sumi somaskanda. who has been putting some of this to the us ambassador to the un robert wood. what did he make about these questions on american leadership? figs questions on american leadership?— questions on american leadership? as he would mention. _ leadership? as he would mention, robert - leadership? as he would mention, robert wood l leadership? as he would| mention, robert wood is leadership? as he would - mention, robert wood is the ultimate representative of the us that the un and we spoke about the limits of diplomacy you referred to, but coming into the general debate today here at the united nations we heard the us delegation and state department as well official saying that the us wanted to present concrete plans for how to defuse the situation that is currently happening in lebanon. indeed, thatis happening in lebanon. indeed, that is what we heard from president biden as well saying, a diplomatic solution is the only way forward. the us has been clear it believes a cease—fire agreement and a
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hostage release deal would be one way to actually lower the temperature in lebanon as well, but we put all of that to robert wood and we asked him about what those concrete plans are that they meant to present here to all parties to bring some sort of off ramp into the picture. this is what he told us. i can't give you a sense right _ told us. i can't give you a sense right now- told us. i can't give you a sense right now of - told us. i can't give you a sense right now of what i told us. i can't give you a - sense right now of what those plans — sense right now of what those plans are, _ sense right now of what those plans are, but we are working around — plans are, but we are working around the clock to make sure the situation d escalates. it is a — the situation d escalates. it is a very— the situation d escalates. it is a very dangerous situation right— is a very dangerous situation right now_ is a very dangerous situation right now and what we think and what _ right now and what we think and what is — right now and what we think and what is most important here is to try— what is most important here is to try and _ what is most important here is to try and get a diplomatic solution _ to try and get a diplomatic solution to this so that it israeiis _ solution to this so that it israelis and the lebanese peoriie _ israelis and the lebanese people on the border can return to their— people on the border can return to their homes safely and accurately so that is where emphasis is primarily. we will have — emphasis is primarily. we will have conversations with partners and other nations to talk— partners and other nations to talk how— partners and other nations to talk how we can best move from the cycle — talk how we can best move from the cycle of violence to calm so we — the cycle of violence to calm so we can _ the cycle of violence to calm so we can try to move forward on broader— so we can try to move forward on broader objectives which is to stabilise the region. you
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heard from _ to stabilise the region. you heard from president - to stabilise the region. 7m, heard from president biden that a diplomatic solution is the only way forward, however are you concerned tones we are hearing both from the israelis, prime minister netanyahu saying they will not stop striking hezbollah targets, hezbollah also who has vowed to not stop striking across the border as well. ~ ~ , ~ , ., well. we think these kinds of statements _ well. we think these kinds of statements are _ well. we think these kinds of statements are not _ well. we think these kinds of statements are not helpful. i well. we think these kinds of. statements are not helpful. to the ilesi— statements are not helpful. to the best interest of the entire region— the best interest of the entire region for there not to be a wet — region for there not to be a wet no _ region for there not to be a war. no one has an interest in trying — war. no one has an interest in trying to— war. no one has an interest in trying to take this to a different level right now. again, _ different level right now. again, we want to have the international community focused on trying — international community focused on trying to reduce tensions and — on trying to reduce tensions and while we are trying to work on this— and while we are trying to work on this diplomatic solution. thet— on this diplomatic solution. that is— on this diplomatic solution. that is with the focus has to be right now. interesting and we will pick up with some of that with our panel and a second. i know you also have been speaking to the outgoing secretary general of the nato, yann stoltenberg, some strong words in the last hour or so from zelensky who has been addressing the un security council, what does he
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make about this pending decision on whether to let the ukrainians that use these longer—range missiles? i ukrainians that use these longer-range missiles? i been talkinu longer-range missiles? i been talking to _ longer-range missiles? i been talking to a — longer-range missiles? i been talking to a number _ longer-range missiles? i been talking to a number of - longer-range missiles? i been talking to a number of people | talking to a number of people about that today if that is the big ask that president zelensky has come to the un to request from western powers as he has been doing from the past few weeks to use some of those long—range missiles to strike deeper into russian territory. we spoke with the polish foreign ministry said, clearly, this is has to be something ukraine is allowed to do. jens stoltenberg was clear on his position as well, he wants a ukraine to be able to use these weapons, as he believes it is the only way to deter russia and provide some path to peace. you have a clip of what he told us earlier. according to international law, ukraine has the right to self—defence, and self—defence includes the right to strike legitimate military targets on the territory of the aggressor. and therefore i welcome that many allies have no restrictions
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on the use of weapons. you want the us to do so, as well? i welcome that allies, including the united states, has loosened up the restrictions because compared to where we were some months ago. allies also united states have loosened up the restrictions on how to use their weapons. and i welcome the fact that there is an ongoing consultation among allies on this issue. what about the fact that president putin has said doing so would amount to the west waging war on russia? i know in the past that president putin has used some of these threats, nuclear threats. are you concerned that this time could be the case? since the beginning of this war, russia has threatened and tried to coerce us from supporting ukraine. and of course, in, in in the war, there are no risk—free options. but i believe that the biggest risk would be if president putin wins. and therefore, i believe that we need to provide ukraine with the weapons they need to ensure that president putin understands that he will not win and has to sit down and agree a solution
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for ukraine, where they prevail as a sovereign, independent nation. the nato secretary general there, very clear as was the polish foreign minister, they believe it is time for the us and alice to be able to provide ukraine with that permission, if you well, to use those long—range missiles to strike it to russia despite whatever threats president putin has made. i should add president zelensky, coming into the un said he would present president biden with a path to victory. we asked some people here, delegates as well, if there is any contours of what that path to victory it looks like, jens stoltenberg said he has not seen the plan and it would be presented to president biden first. but president zelensky would not only with strong words are trying to present a plan for president biden to go forward and what he says, for ukraine to win the war in the nearfuture. ukraine to win the war in the near future.— near future. interesting and [en near future. interesting and plenty more _ near future. interesting and plenty more on _ near future. interesting and plenty more on those - near future. interesting and - plenty more on those interviews coming up and also he israeli ambassador to the un, thinking
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to you and your team for that coverage today. joe biden, when he first took public office in washington, the vietnam war was the lawn. he is been around the block many times and i think many people outside the country would say he is a decent man, but i wonder whether a joe biden 20 years younger would have allowed this were to gone on as it has in recent months? joe biden has not only been in washington or at least decades, but has played a senior role in foreign policy, former chair of the foreign relations committee, of course eight years as vice president. he has been very supportive of ukraine, one thing he takes pride and is helping to unite the west to repel and respond to the russian invasion there,
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but he has been concerned about triggering a bigger war. that is why he has been reluctant to give ukraine permission to strike deep into russia. he was asked about this again on sunday and he said he had not made a decision yet. 0ne sunday and he said he had not made a decision yet. one of the characteristics i think that we have seen with ukraine is the biden administration will give a weston —— will not give something and decided well, it has been incremental and increasing options and possibilities to ukraine so we may see the unfold. i don't think it is a function of his age, i think it is a function of the attitude that has been shaped in the many years he has been involved in foreign policy. been involved in foreign oli . . , been involved in foreign oli _ ., , policy. he has though, been re policy. he has though, been pretty stubborn _ policy. he has though, been pretty stubborn and - policy. he has though, been pretty stubborn and not - policy. he has though, been - pretty stubborn and not wanting to use the leverage that the united states quite clearly hides over israel to reduce the number of deaths in gaza or to force a solution on the
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humanitarian situation in gaza nor has he crafted to any long—term plan that is going to work, it does not seem so at the moment anyway. how would you assess his legacy der? it you assess his legacy der? it is a troubled legacy and it is quite — is a troubled legacy and it is quite understandable people say he has _ quite understandable people say he has taken a softly, softly approach. since october the 7th or shortly— approach. since october the 7th or shortly afterwards he said he has — or shortly afterwards he said he has cautioned israel against escalating violence and cautioned against following the us's footsteps following the september 11 attacks when they entered — september 11 attacks when they entered a conflict in the middle _ entered a conflict in the middle east that lasted for years— middle east that lasted for years and years, but ultimately the one — years and years, but ultimately the one very, very significant bit of— the one very, very significant bit of leverage the us has as its arms— bit of leverage the us has as its arms sales to israel and since — its arms sales to israel and since october the 7th, it has sent— since october the 7th, it has sent 125— since october the 7th, it has sent 12.5 billion us dollars sent12.5 billion us dollars worth— sent12.5 billion us dollars worth of— sent 12.5 billion us dollars worth of arms to israel.
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ultimately, benjamin netanyahu is not _ ultimately, benjamin netanyahu is not taking them seriously. joe biden pleads with him to reduce — joe biden pleads with him to reduce the conflict, to step back, — reduce the conflict, to step back, to _ reduce the conflict, to step back, to take a peace deal seriously— back, to take a peace deal seriously and benjamin netanyahu seems to take it as a badge _ netanyahu seems to take it as a badge of— netanyahu seems to take it as a badge of honour and even shows off about — badge of honour and even shows off about it to his public that he does _ off about it to his public that he does not need to listen. and ithink— he does not need to listen. and i think he — he does not need to listen. and i think he is looking to the future _ i think he is looking to the future and his thinking, there is quite — future and his thinking, there is quite possibly in his mind, hopefully— is quite possibly in his mind, hopefully point to be a new us president injust a few hopefully point to be a new us president in just a few weeks' time — president in just a few weeks' time it— president in just a few weeks' time. it could be donald trump and he — time. it could be donald trump and he does not need to take these — and he does not need to take these words of caution that seriously. these words of caution that seriously-— seriously. on that issue of donald trump, _ seriously. on that issue of donald trump, he - seriously. on that issue of donald trump, he said, i seriously. on that issue ofj donald trump, he said, as seriously. on that issue of - donald trump, he said, as much as i love thejob, i love my country more and decided after 50 years of public service, it is time for a new generation of leadership to take my nation forward. who was that for? was it for the people in the room,
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the autocrats of the room, or was it a domestic message? i’m was it a domestic message? i'm sure he hone — was it a domestic message? i'm sure he hope to _ was it a domestic message? i“n sure he hope to the autocrats in the room heard it, i think it is likely that a speech from the podium makes a difference if you are a autocrat. i think that was a comment directed at himself, he took the most difficult step, it's hard to imagine how torturous it was forjoe biden to say, i will not run for reelection. he only did that after that catastrophic debate at the end ofjune and that his fellow democrats came to him, most especially house speaker nancy pelosi saying, you cannot run again. so it is one of the points democrats have made is to praise him for putting the good of the nation ahead of his personal ambitions. good of the nation ahead of his personalambitions. i good of the nation ahead of his personal ambitions. i think thatis personal ambitions. i think that is why he says and i think that is why he says and i think that was for an audience of one and audience of himself. titer? and audience of himself. very cuickl , and audience of himself. very quickly. i _ and audience of himself. very
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quickly, i think— and audience of himself. very quickly, i think most - and audience of himself. very quickly, i think most people in the world would agree we are at an inflection point and we have to ask is developing and who knows if we have a regional war in the middle east, things could be about to get been worse and yet, foreign policy in this election campaign is not very often discussed. do you think the american people fully understand the inflection point we are at? i fully understand the inflection point we are at?— point we are at? i think you search long _ point we are at? i think you search long and _ point we are at? i think you search long and hard - point we are at? i think you search long and hard to - point we are at? i think you| search long and hard to find presidential elections in which foreign policy plays a big role. that happens during wars where americans are getting killed and it happened in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, but other than that americans, tend to vote on issues, almost always, of the economy, what's happening around the kitchen table, inflation and jobs, and at this election is like this. the selection, whatever the stakes in the world, with china, the middle east and europe, this election is determined on what is happening
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in the us economy and that is the number one issue, i think. the number two issue his abortion rights in the united states. that is the other very powerful issue in this election and you can see that is terrible and americans should take attention more to the world, but that is the reality. while the world certainly is paying attention to america, that much is true and certainly today. we'll talk more on politics and the labour party conference in liverpool, we will be right back after this.
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welcome back. plenty going on in new york especially at the un security council we have heard in the last few minutes we will have a special session on that tomorrow in the developing situation in lebanon, there is a resolution 1701 which demands hezbollah pulls back beyond the river in southern lebanon, but that has not been upheld so both sides
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will no doubt have comments on that. we are expecting the israeli a bassett or to the un to talk a little later to us in the programme. let's focus on what is happening in liverpool now. the prime minister keir starmer says there is "light at the end of this tunnel" — even if the journey this summer has felt, at times, like we were heading further into the dark. the prime minister used his conference speech this afternoon to detail how he will "build a new britain", conscious that that vision he set out in the summer has been overshadowed, by a difficult first few months in office. we must build a new britain built from that age old spirit of creativity and enterprise. the pride and ambition of working people that, when matched by a government of service, a decisive government, a government prepared to use its powers for justice, opportunity and equal respect, can deliver a britain that belongs to you, a britain
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that belongs to you because politics sees public service as a privilege, not privilege as an entitlement to public service. this should be the moment labour is at its strongest. yet ministers are still fending off questions about the dysfunction in government, the freebies from donors, generally, a perceived lack of grip. but beyond the headlines there has been a flurry of announcements. all of which — and we have checked — does tend to marry with the changes promised in the manifesto. the chancellor is appointing a new covid corruption commissioner. which is there in the manifesto. the employment rights bill to deliver a "new dealfor working people" will come next month. there will be ne "planning passports" to speed up the building of apartment blocks. the defence secretary is pushing a recruitment drive for the military, investigators will get new powers to clamp down on benefit fraud. coming soon, a hillsborough law
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to prevent state cover—ups the free breakfast clubs in primary schools will arrive in the new year. and by 2030 all social homes in england will need an energy rating of c. all of it in the manifesto, all of it coming to pass. so, is that the change britain voted for? does it do enough, in mind of those recent headlines? does do enough to the nerves? i am here in liverpool as you know and i have been struck and many of my colleagues as well tjy many of my colleagues as well by the fact that, you may expect, this is the first conference after a landslide victory for labour, the first decades, you would expect a mood ofjubilation and mood of jubilation and excitement mood ofjubilation and excitement and i was at the reform uk conference last week and i would it was much more, the mood there, was more jubilant. here, it has been
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rather subdued up until today. there is a sense of unease, as you say, about the swirling briefing and counter briefing about some figures like sue gray and some of the cronyism allegations and to the freebies and gifts, but more concerning lee, about some unease from mps and activists about a lack of a coherent narrative and maybe also a lack of clear policy directions. some of the really big issues, like education reform and nhs reform. so keir starmer took to the stage today, i think he had two key objectives, the first to say, look, this is a labour government. at its heart, this is a government with labour the values and we will do the core things that you would associate with a progressive government. that we will fix the nhs, we
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will improve educational outcomes, we will invest in clean energy. so laying concerns... clean energy. so laying concerns. . ._ clean energy. so laying concerns... what's really interesting _ concerns... what's really interesting to _ concerns... what's really interesting to me - concerns... what's really interesting to me is - concerns... what's really interesting to me is that| concerns... what's really i interesting to me is that he says there are different —— difficult decisions i had and warning signs putting out there for the public, but some of the tough decisions he is taking when you look at the uke of poll, they pulled quite well so his decision to keep the child benefit cap for two children, 61% back that yougov poll. the pay deal which was quite substantial for the pay deal which was quite substantialfor thejunior substantial for the junior doctors, pulls quite well with the british public. the decision to lift the ban on onshore wind farms in england does pretty well, but it's overshadowed, this is the problem, by some own goals, notably taking the weight in which pensioners, not going
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down well and whateverjonathan down well and whatever jonathan reynolds down well and whateverjonathan reynolds says that it is really matter to people, the issue of the freebies does not pull well at all. it does matter to people. at all. it does matter to petiole-— at all. it does matter to --eole. , , at all. it does matter to --eole. , , people. absolutely, there is something _ people. absolutely, there is something about _ people. absolutely, there is something about it - people. absolutely, there is something about it that - people. absolutely, there is something about it that has| something about it that has really hit home because it is such a comprehensible thing to the public. why are politicians who are earning so much money getting free clothes when i have to pay for my own clothes. i think that is a real issue and its frustration around mps and its frustration around mps and activists around the fuel poverty decision. but something i have heard a lot conference is not necessarily the decision, there are a lot of people who understand the difficult decisions have to be made, but there is an underlying sense that there is a lack of strategy and a lack of columns, why did they announce in the summer, on its own without other policy decisions being announced
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around and around tax and other things. and again on freebies, again, mistakes are made, but why not get out ahead of the narrative and explain why this is happening. the narrative and explain why this is happening-— is happening. the answer to that is that _ is happening. the answer to j that is that campaigning and opposition is much more different to governing. it is tougher to govern and it is to be in opposition. ijust wonder and we have talked about this, whether doom and gloom is a self—fulfilling prophecy. i really do notice the difference in mood between the summer we have had with labour and actually the early part of the campaign that kamala harris and tim walz has been running, it's much morejoyful and optimistic much more joyful and optimistic and much morejoyful and optimistic and in doing so, seemingly she has been able to separate herself from some of the bad headlines that surround the biden administration. she has been remarkably _ biden administration. she has| been remarkably sure-footed. been remarkably sure—footed. she had — been remarkably sure—footed. she had a _ been remarkably sure—footed. she had a tough time early on
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as vice — she had a tough time early on as vice president, but since joe biden stepped back and she has stepped forward, she is consolidated the democratic party — consolidated the democratic party. she is emerged as the happy— party. she is emerged as the happy warrior, tim walz, the governor— happy warrior, tim walz, the governor of minnesota, her runninq _ governor of minnesota, her running mate, fits that happy warrior— running mate, fits that happy warrior mode as well and she has really— warrior mode as well and she has really changed her attitude towards — has really changed her attitude towards donald trump. joe biden he ran— towards donald trump. joe biden he ran against frump last time around — he ran against frump last time around has been describing trump _ around has been describing trump as a danger to democracy and a _ trump as a danger to democracy and a threat to our most fundamental values. and a threat to our most fundamentalvalues. kamala fundamental values. kamala harris — fundamental values. kamala harris is _ fundamentalvalues. kamala harris is more likely to view him — harris is more likely to view him as— harris is more likely to view him as weird. and to mark them as though — him as weird. and to mark them as though he is a ridiculous fiqure _ as though he is a ridiculous figure it— as though he is a ridiculous fiaure. . , , as though he is a ridiculous fiaure. .,, , ., figure. it has been an effective _ figure. it has been an effective strategy. i figure. it has been an| effective strategy. we figure. it has been an - effective strategy. we will talk more about strategy on the harris campaign, we will be back after this. stay with us.
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eventually is going to turn colder as well. this chart shows the rainfall we are expecting to cumulate over the next few days and you can see this time to have used the rain the heaviest of the rain is expected to be across parts of north—east england. over high ground, it is possible that some places could see 80 to possibly 100mm of rain. for most places, tuesday has been spent in this gap between weather systems, but more cloud waiting in the wings out in the atlantic. that is our next weather system — already starting to throw some cloud into the southwest of england. a bit of showery rain here, maybe a few showers running eastwards across southeastern parts of england as well. this band of cloud moving southwards out of scotland into northern england, afew showers with that. where we see clear skies through the night in parts of scotland could drop down to freezing. we could also see some fog patches, say, across parts of the midlands, as we start tomorrow morning through tomorrow, we see this area of cloud and rain pushing across the south—west of england up into wales, the midlands, some showers moving across the south—east.
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northern england tending to cloud over through the day, northern ireland not doing too badly for some sunshine and for scotland, scotland's sunny spells, just one or two showers, particularly in the far north where it will be a cold day again. 9—10 degrees, even further south, 14—15 or 16 at best. and then through wednesday night into thursday, this low spins its way eastwards and this frontal system here becoming slow moving across northern england. so, that is why we have some cause for concern across north—east england. already met office yellow warning has been issued, particularly in spots exposed to this brisk northeasterly wind. so, the rain really piling up over high ground here. pretty wet at times as well for northern ireland, south—west scotland, the north and to the south of that, sunny spells and showers. and then, as our area of low pressure continues to roll away eastwards during thursday night, our band of rain starts to sink its way southwards and eastwards and as it clears behind that rain band, well, we all get into this northerly wind all the way from the arctic. a cold feel to the weather for the end of the week, particularly where you're exposed to the strength
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security council that the war with russia can't be calmed by talks. he said russia could only be forced into peace by united, international action. the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelensky, has told a special session of the un security council that the war with russia cannot be calmed by talks. he cannot be calmed by talks. was in a special securit council he was in a special security council setting this afternoon and he is about to present his victory planned to president biden. described iran and north korea as a compass is in a criminal war. we know some in the world want to talk to putin, suit meet to talk and speak, but what could they possibly hear from him? that she is upset that we are exercising our right to defend
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