get food itself but can also flush out food that can be taken by some of the other species. it was thought to be solitary. it's not like it has a complex social life with other octopus, and so it's quite remarkable it has evolved this amazing ability to understand what different species are doing and how they coordinate their behaviours. we don't think the fish really know that much about what's going on, but the octopus definitely seems to. this programme continues on bbc one.

keir starmer is not for turning and sets out a vision of a country that belongs to you. is that a vision that buy into? —— that you can buy into? welome to newsnight live from liverpool at the labour party conference with interviews and insight. in a few minutes, the environment secretary — we talk austerity and what he can do to stop sewage being dumped into our rivers. your panel this evening —

political editor of the liverpool echo, liam thorp. labourmp, barry gardiner. and labour peer, ayesha hazarika. keir starmer by the way is on en route to new york right now for a un general assembly meeting — can anyone there do anything to stop the conflict between israel and hezbollah from escalating further? 564 people in lebanon have been killed so far in israeli strikes. hezbollah, seen as a terror organisation by the british government, has vowed to fire even more missiles into the north of israel. we have some breaking news from the prime minister on this?— prime minister on this? we have heard from _ prime minister on this? we have heard from what _ prime minister on this? we have heard from what the _ prime minister on this? we have heard from what the prime - prime minister on this? we have i heard from what the prime minister is saying on that flight to new york, he has a significant message to uk nationals in lebanon, he says the most important message to british nationals in lebanon is to leave immediately. it is important to be really clear, now it's the time to leave. they say to do it now

because there are still commercial flights available and ministers are repeating their call for a ceasefire.— repeating their call for a ceasefire. ~ . ., . ~ repeating their call for a ceasefire. ~ . ~ ., repeating their call for a ceasefire. ~ ., ., ceasefire. we will come back to that a little later- — meanwhile, here in liverpool keir starmer did lift the spirits of the delegates in the auditorium today with his vision of national renewal, promising this — a "britain that belongs to you." we will stabilise our economy, clear out the tory rot, fix the foundation and deliver the mandate of change. a britain built to last, built with respect, built with pride. because together we have shown that britain belongs to you. thank you, conference! cheering barry gardiner is here. did keir starmer meet the moment for you? did keir starmer meet the moment for ou? , . , ., did keir starmer meet the moment for ou? , ., , ., you? yes, in a number of ways. it was important _ you? yes, in a number of ways. it was important what _ you? yes, in a number of ways. it was important what he _ you? yes, in a number of ways. it was important what he said - you? yes, in a number of ways. it was important what he said abouti you? yes, in a number of ways. it. was important what he said about his sister. he reinforced what he was

talking about, a vision of a country where we have self—respect, and we respect each other. and that played off the most important part of his speech for me, which was what he said about racism and how it is something that has no place in this country, and that was a really powerful message. if you look at the way the audience responded, everybody got to their feet and applauded, thank god we have a prime minister who is saying i will call the racists what they are. but it was done in a way that taught positively about immigration —— talked. yes, we have to deal with the problems of immigration and illegal immigration, but actually said that we need migration into this country, so it was a very balanced, very well put together speech, because it had the vision of a society that was respectful and self respecting but it also tackled

that racist element within society and said, that is not the vision we have for our country.— and said, that is not the vision we have for our country. what did you take from it? _ have for our country. what did you take from it? what _ have for our country. what did you take from it? what will _ have for our country. what did you take from it? what will the - have for our country. what did you | take from it? what will the country take from it? what will the country take from it? it take from it? what will the country take from it?— take from it? it was a very strong seech take from it? it was a very strong speech and _ take from it? it was a very strong speech and it _ take from it? it was a very strong speech and it helped _ take from it? it was a very strong speech and it helped to _ take from it? it was a very strong speech and it helped to set - take from it? it was a very strong speech and it helped to set mood here because to be honest, coming here, _ here because to be honest, coming here, there — here because to be honest, coming here, there were difficult headlines and of— here, there were difficult headlines and of course the mood here is, we have _ and of course the mood here is, we have just _ and of course the mood here is, we have just won an election for the first time — have just won an election for the first time in 14 years, and that's an important thing to note, has only ever been_ an important thing to note, has only ever been seven labour prime ministers _ ever been seven labour prime ministers in the history of country and only— ministers in the history of country and only four have changed the administration, so it was him being prime _ administration, so it was him being prime ministerial, very much, and about— prime ministerial, very much, and about the — prime ministerial, very much, and about the mood here in last year, to be about the mood here in last year, to he brutally— about the mood here in last year, to be brutally honest, last year there was a _ be brutally honest, last year there was a lot— be brutally honest, last year there was a lot more excitement, because we were _ was a lot more excitement, because we were on— was a lot more excitement, because we were on the verge of an election. there _ we were on the verge of an election. there was— we were on the verge of an election. there was a — we were on the verge of an election. there was a crackle in the air. this year, _ there was a crackle in the air. this year, because we have moved from a

party— year, because we have moved from a party of— year, because we have moved from a party of protest to power, everyone in the _ party of protest to power, everyone in the room _ party of protest to power, everyone in the room and he himself as the prime _ in the room and he himself as the prime minister, not leader of the opposition, there is the weight of responsibility as well, so i thought it was— responsibility as well, so i thought it was a _ responsibility as well, so i thought it was a strong speech and a very solid _ it was a strong speech and a very solid speech but appropriate, it was not a _ solid speech but appropriate, it was not a jubilant speech, this is my victory— not a jubilant speech, this is my victory tap, _ not a jubilant speech, this is my victory lap, and i agree with what barry— victory lap, and i agree with what barry said — victory lap, and i agree with what barry said about the passage on the rioting, _ barry said about the passage on the rioting, it _ barry said about the passage on the rioting, it was very artful and he showed — rioting, it was very artful and he showed strong values, using the word racist _ showed strong values, using the word racist and _ showed strong values, using the word racist and a _ showed strong values, using the word racist and a big attack against populism and the rise of the far right— populism and the rise of the far right and — populism and the rise of the far right and nigel farage, and also saying _ right and nigel farage, and also saying we have got to take tough decisions — saying we have got to take tough decisions. the thread running through— decisions. the thread running through the speech, it was not fake 'azz through the speech, it was not fake jazz hands, — through the speech, it was not fake jazz hands, everything is going to be ok. _ jazz hands, everything is going to be ok. it — jazz hands, everything is going to be ok, it was a message that we are going _ be ok, it was a message that we are going to _ be ok, it was a message that we are going to build a country that belongs _ going to build a country that belongs to you but there will be tough _ belongs to you but there will be tough decisions we are going to have tough decisions we are going to have to make _ tough decisions we are going to have to make. we tough decisions we are going to have to make. ~ . ., tough decisions we are going to have to make. ~ ., ,, ., ., to make. we will talk about that in this programme. _ to make. we will talk about that in this programme. what _ to make. we will talk about that in this programme. what will - to make. we will talk about that in this programme. what will the - this programme. what will the readers of the liverpool echo have taken from that?— readers of the liverpool echo have taken from that? they will have not learned anything —

taken from that? they will have not learned anything new— taken from that? they will have not learned anything new about - taken from that? they will have not learned anything new about keir - learned anything new about keir starmer— learned anything new about keir starmer apart— learned anything new about keir starmer apart from _ learned anything new about keir starmer apart from he _ learned anything new about keir starmer apart from he has- learned anything new about keir starmer apart from he has got. learned anything new about keir- starmer apart from he has got better at delivering — starmer apart from he has got better at delivering these _ starmer apart from he has got better at delivering these speeches. - starmer apart from he has got better at delivering these speeches. i- starmer apart from he has got better at delivering these speeches. i havel at delivering these speeches. i have been at _ at delivering these speeches. i have been at previous _ at delivering these speeches. i have been at previous conferences - at delivering these speeches. i have been at previous conferences wherej been at previous conferences where he has _ been at previous conferences where he has failed — been at previous conferences where he has failed on _ been at previous conferences where he has failed on a _ been at previous conferences where he has failed on a purely _ been at previous conferences where he has failed on a purely pragmaticl he has failed on a purely pragmatic basis _ he has failed on a purely pragmatic basis to— he has failed on a purely pragmatic basis to read — he has failed on a purely pragmatic basis to read the _ he has failed on a purely pragmatic basis to read the room, _ he has failed on a purely pragmatic basis to read the room, but- he has failed on a purely pragmatic basis to read the room, but his - basis to read the room, but his intonations _ basis to read the room, but his intonations were _ basis to read the room, but his intonations were better - basis to read the room, but his intonations were better and - basis to read the room, but his intonations were better and he| basis to read the room, but his - intonations were better and he knows when to— intonations were better and he knows when to rise — intonations were better and he knows when to rise up — intonations were better and he knows when to rise up at _ intonations were better and he knows when to rise up at the _ intonations were better and he knows when to rise up at the right _ intonations were better and he knows when to rise up at the right time - when to rise up at the right time and the — when to rise up at the right time and the crescendo _ when to rise up at the right time and the crescendo at _ when to rise up at the right time and the crescendo at the - when to rise up at the right time and the crescendo at the end - when to rise up at the right timel and the crescendo at the end was quite _ and the crescendo at the end was quite impressive, _ and the crescendo at the end was quite impressive, actually. - and the crescendo at the end wasi quite impressive, actually. people in liverpool. — quite impressive, actually. people in liverpool, there _ quite impressive, actually. people in liverpool, there are _ quite impressive, actually. people in liverpool, there are massive i in liverpool, there are massive challenges _ in liverpool, there are massive challenges around _ in liverpool, there are massive challenges around deprivation i in liverpool, there are massive i challenges around deprivation and poverty. _ challenges around deprivation and poverty. they— challenges around deprivation and poverty. they are _ challenges around deprivation and poverty, they are waiting - challenges around deprivation and poverty, they are waiting for i challenges around deprivation and poverty, they are waiting for the l poverty, they are waiting for the bil poverty, they are waiting for the big idea — poverty, they are waiting for the big idea of— poverty, they are waiting for the big idea of this _ poverty, they are waiting for the big idea of this labour— poverty, they are waiting for the i big idea of this labour government, and we _ big idea of this labour government, and we don't — big idea of this labour government, and we don't quite _ big idea of this labour government, and we don't quite know— big idea of this labour government, and we don't quite know what - big idea of this labour government, and we don't quite know what it i big idea of this labour government, and we don't quite know what it is l and we don't quite know what it is exactly _ and we don't quite know what it is exactly they — and we don't quite know what it is exactly they want _ and we don't quite know what it is exactly they want to _ and we don't quite know what it is exactly they want to achieve i and we don't quite know what it is exactly they want to achieve in i and we don't quite know what it isl exactly they want to achieve in this first term. — exactly they want to achieve in this first term, that _ exactly they want to achieve in this first term, that will— exactly they want to achieve in this first term, that will earn _ exactly they want to achieve in this first term, that will earn them i exactly they want to achieve in this first term, that will earn them a i first term, that will earn them a second — first term, that will earn them a second term _ first term, that will earn them a second term. there _ first term, that will earn them a second term. there is _ first term, that will earn them a second term. there is a - first term, that will earn them a second term. there is a healthyj second term. there is a healthy scepticism _ second term. there is a healthy scepticism in _ second term. there is a healthy scepticism in liverpool- second term. there is a healthy scepticism in liverpool always l second term. there is a healthy. scepticism in liverpool always and it will— scepticism in liverpool always and it will take — scepticism in liverpool always and it will take a — scepticism in liverpool always and it will take a bit _ scepticism in liverpool always and it will take a bit of _ scepticism in liverpool always and it will take a bit of convincing. it . it will take a bit of convincing. it was solid — it will take a bit of convincing. it was solid if— it will take a bit of convincing. it was solid if not _ it will take a bit of convincing. it was solid if not unremarkable, i it will take a bit of convincing. iti was solid if not unremarkable, in it will take a bit of convincing. it i was solid if not unremarkable, in my opinion _ was solid if not unremarkable, in my opinion the — was solid if not unremarkable, in my opinion. the stuff— was solid if not unremarkable, in my opinion. the stuff on _ was solid if not unremarkable, in my opinion. the stuff on racism - was solid if not unremarkable, in my opinion. the stuff on racism it- was solid if not unremarkable, in my opinion. the stuff on racism it was. opinion. the stuff on racism it was good _ opinion. the stuff on racism it was good because _ opinion. the stuff on racism it was good because we _ opinion. the stuff on racism it was good because we had _ opinion. the stuff on racism it was good because we had not- opinion. the stuff on racism it was good because we had not heard i opinion. the stuff on racism it was. good because we had not heard him say it— good because we had not heard him say it in— good because we had not heard him say it in that — good because we had not heard him say it in that way _ good because we had not heard him say it in that way before. _ good because we had not heard him say it in that way before. he - good because we had not heard him say it in that way before.— say it in that way before. he talked about far right _ say it in that way before. he talked about far right thuggery _ say it in that way before. he talked about far right thuggery in - 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our communities. the calculation with all the trouble is they have l with all the trouble is they have had is _ with all the trouble is they have had is that— with all the trouble is they have had is that the _ with all the trouble is they have had is that the thing _ with all the trouble is they have had is that the thing he - with all the trouble is they have had is that the thing he has- had is that the thing he has probably— had is that the thing he has probably done _ had is that the thing he has probably done best - had is that the thing he has probably done best in i had is that the thing he has probably done best in this i had is that the thing he has- probably done best in this opening nine weeks — probably done best in this opening nine weeks is _ probably done best in this opening nine weeks is handled _ probably done best in this opening nine weeks is handled the - probably done best in this opening nine weeks is handled the rioting, | nine weeks is handled the rioting, and he _ nine weeks is handled the rioting, and he is — nine weeks is handled the rioting, and he is leaning _ nine weeks is handled the rioting, and he is leaning into— nine weeks is handled the rioting, and he is leaning into that. - nine weeks is handled the rioting, and he is leaning into that. he i nine weeks is handled the rioting, i and he is leaning into that. he kept getting _ and he is leaning into that. he kept getting applause _ and he is leaning into that. he kept getting applause and _ and he is leaning into that. he kept getting applause and he _ and he is leaning into that. he kept getting applause and he said - and he is leaning into that. he kept getting applause and he said that l getting applause and he said that about— getting applause and he said that about three — getting applause and he said that about three times, _ getting applause and he said that about three times, so _ getting applause and he said that about three times, so he - getting applause and he said that about three times, so he workedl getting applause and he said that i about three times, so he worked out that was— about three times, so he worked out that was a _ about three times, so he worked out that was a success. _ about three times, so he worked out that was a success. the _ about three times, so he worked out that was a success.— that was a success. the atmosphere in this conference _ that was a success. the atmosphere in this conference is _ that was a success. the atmosphere in this conference is much _ that was a success. the atmosphere in this conference is much improved j in this conference is much improved after the speech i was speaking to one of the closest aides of the prime minister and they said he clearly had had his weetabix this morning. clearly had had his weetabix this morninu. ., . f clearly had had his weetabix this morning._ quite i clearly had had his weetabix this morning._ quite a i clearly had had his weetabix this i morning._ quite a few. morning. how many? quite a few. bar said morning. how many? quite a few. itarry said he _ morning. how many? quite a few. barry said he mentioned _ morning. how many? quite a few. barry said he mentioned his- morning. how many? quite a few. | barry said he mentioned his sister, who is a carer and he also talked about his brother and his learning difficulties, and that was to highlight his values about how everyone should be valued. a big focus on labour values and a belief on public services but not backing down on the tough decisions that need to be taken, and he believes to stabilise the economy. it has been a difficult run up to the conference with all the focus on donations and his suits, so i caught up with his

colleague peter kyle and this is what he had to say. i must say, sometimes i see you looking a bit scruffy, but today you're looking spectacular. the difference is, i paid for this suit. yeah. and he didn't pay for his. is he paying a big price for the way his suit was paid for? we, um... today is all about the future. and it's about the big issues facing our country. and you expect a prime minister, yes, to look good, to present himself well, on behalf of our nation, but you expect him to be tackling those really fundamental big issues and that's what you saw today. i caught icaught up i caught up with the former home secretary david blunkett not long after that who had a slight raising of the eyebrow. i'm always looking for what is the vision, and keir starmer did start to talk about the renewal of our country and i liked that. i would like him to have said just a little bit more

about the milestones, the way in which not what we're doing immediately, which is good. all the things he talked about are very encouraging and we want to will them on after 80 days. but i think we also need to know what next year will look like. and i fear that we're waiting for the budget on the 30th of october. a lot of people waiting for the budget. we will talk about that shortly. i spoke to the environment secretary and a close ally of the prime minister, did he think keir starmer had done enough to shift the dial after a rocky few days? in politics, we have been in it long enough to know that you have difficult weeks from time to time, but what he was doing today was connecting to what people voted for in july, when connecting to what people voted for injuly, when we won this huge majority in parliament for change. the theme of this conference is change begins, and we have started making those changes. the gb energy bill, going through parliament right now, the water special measures

bill, part of my responsibility. going through parliament right now so we can ban the payment of multi—million pound bonuses to water bosses who are overseeing catastrophic levels of pollution into our waterways. i want to come back to that. i just want to pick out some more stuff from keir starmer�*s speech, and then i'll come to your brief. keir starmer said today, no return to tory austerity. does that mean there will be labour austerity? no, there will be no return to austerity. that's crystal clear. what about labour austerity? what we need to do... there won't be any labour austerity. what we need to do is grow the economy so that we can bring in the additional revenues into the treasury to refund our broken public services, but there would be down payments in any case. you know, closing the non—dom tax loophole allows us to open up 40,000 additional nhs appointments every week. i want to concentrate on the stuff he said today, to try and interrogate

what he means. because people are asking, "what does that mean for me?" so, he said the cost of filling the black hole in the public finances will be shared fairly. his words. and we will do this in a labour way. what does the "labour way" mean for people watching right now? well, it means doing it in a way that is fair. he was pointing, wasn't he, to what george osborne said when he became chancellor, when he said the broadest shoulders will bear the greatest burden, and the polar opposite happened. we've just gone through a period where britain has had the worst decade for wage growth since the great depression of the 1930s, so ordinary people paid the price for tory failure. that will not happen with this government. you mentioned george osborne, and obviously keir starmer today literally quoted george osborne when he said, "we're all in this together." now, that, for some people sends an absolute chill through them because that means austerity. the reason he used that phrase was to show how george osborne made promises that he then broke. and that is why trust in politics

and all politicians, if i'm honest, has been shattered. it's easy for george osborne to say things and then break those promises. this government, keir starmer, is absolutely committed to doing what he says. that's why he's being so honest about the very difficult inheritance that we see ourselves with today, the difficult choices that will be required. but it's important that people see, too, that there is a vision for where we want to get to for a fairer britain, where public services work and people get a pay rise. and that will take some time. he talked about collective endeavour for national renewal. again, his words. but he said it will be hard. he said it will be tough. there are people struggling right now. can you understand why what he said today might actually terrify some people who could be thinking, "we can't take any more pain"? people want help, but people are reasonable. people know that you can't fix all of the problems accumulated over

14 years of failure under the conservative government. but people also might be thinking... they know that. they also might be thinking they can't bear any more of this burden. they want the hope. they need to know that the foundations are being fixed so we can rebuild a country that works for everybody. but not on the backs of them. absolutely. no, no, it will be done in a fair way. we'll wait to see the budget. i don't know the detail of the budget. it hasn't all been worked out yet, but it will be a budget that seeks to share the burden fairly, and the poorest will be supported through all of this. but the prize in all of this is, if we can grow the economy, and a lot of the things we're all focussed on right now are how we grow the economy, then you can get billions of extra revenues into the exchequer and use that to fund the public services that we all want to see improving. it's a big if, though — you can't guarantee the economy will grow to the level that will yield the kind of tax income that you want. you can't guarantee it, but you can do the things that are going to give us the best

possible chance of getting it. gb energy, i mentioned it already a couple of times... you have so i'm going to pause you there because time is limited. in doing that, that isjobs up and down the country, you know. people were poorer at the end of the last parliament than they were at the beginning, according to the resolution foundation. that's never happened before in modern history. that's right. can you promise to people watching now that they will be better off in five years' time compared to now? we will do our level best to ensure that — that's all we can do. so you can't promise that? i'm going to refer to my sector now, if that's ok. we're working to bring in over £80 billion worth of investment into the water sector, starting next april. now, that will, on the one hand, it will help to clear up the pollution problem that we've got, but it will create jobs in every region of this country. good, secure, well—paid jobs for people who may not have those jobs at the moment. we're looking at reforming skills so we can have foundation apprenticeships, which train people up with the skills they need to take advantage of those jobs.

that is money in people's pockets, that is supporting families. it's also tax revenues into the exchequer, which will then be spent to improve services like the national health service. so we'll do our level best. 0k. that's your promise. you'll do your level best? that's all we can say. 0k. let's talk about the environment finally then, because keir starmer said in his speech today, "we can't afford any more polluted rivers." in your speech yesterday to the conference, you said, "water bosses are responsible for repeated illegal sewage dumping won't get their multi—million pound bonuses." so you are going to let them illegally dump sewage for a bit? uh, no. yes. no, what we intend to do is... i think what people find desperately unfair is that water bosses are paying themselves vast bonuses while overseeing failure. absolutely. so why are you going to let them illegally dump sewage into rivers at all? we're not, what we're going to do is we're going to ask the regulator to set metrics for achievement, and they will get bonuses if they achieve those objectives. the key word here is repeated

illegal sewage dumping, then they might lose their bonus, repeated. we're not going to reward people for illegal sewage dumping. why have you got the word repeated in there at all? even more importantly... please can you answer that question? why have you got the word repeated in there at all? because that's, the problem is, if there is sewage dumping going on and you don't fix the cause of it, that is where the problem is. our infrastructure is so broken that some of it is leaking sewage out into the waterways. now the people responsible for the water companies can use money to fix that so it doesn't happen again. what i'm trying to do is encourage them to fix the leaks that are causing the sewage to pollute our waterways. but more importantly than that, i want to clean up the problem entirely. hence the 80 billion plus of investment coming in next year. so how many times will they be allowed to illegally dump sewage into rivers before their bonus is taken away? the water regulator will be setting... how many times? well, it may be zero, but the water regulator will be asked to set

metrics for achievement. and then bosses in the water sector, like bosses in any other company, will be paid for success, not forfailure. thank you vey much, steve reed, thanks for talking to newsnight. thank you. i want to pick up this note return to tory austerity, but it's going to be painful, we know that so what's it mean? it be painful, we know that so what's it mean? . . be painful, we know that so what's it mean? , , ., , be painful, we know that so what's it mean? , , .,, i. it mean? it is interesting, as you said, it mean? it is interesting, as you said. keir— it mean? it is interesting, as you said, keir starmer— it mean? it is interesting, as you said, keir starmer in _ it mean? it is interesting, as you said, keir starmer in his - it mean? it is interesting, as you said, keir starmer in his speech, j it mean? it is interesting, as you i said, keir starmer in his speech, no return to tory austerity so maybe people think there might be another form of austerity and steve reed is very close cabinet colleague of the prime minister and he said there would be no return to austerity and the reason this is, people are interested in it, i remember talking to gloat leigh gordon brown at the time of the global crash and he said, i thought you were going and boom and bust, and he said he was only ending the tour we buster pulled earlier i caught up withjohn mcdonnell, the father of the labour left is now sitting as an

independent mp, and he addressed a packed meeting of socialist mps and said they all are this talk of no return to austerity but he said their constituents are hearing contradictory messages print from this government. you're ending austerity but at the same time, you're not scrapping the two—child limit and you're introducing the means test of winter fuel allowance, which will put many of our constituents into hardship and risk. so between now and october 30th, we're mobilizing to say to the labour leadership, if you really mean ending austerity, let's really end austerity. and that will mean tough choices, but not tough choices for our people back in the constituencies. they've had enough of tough choices. it's about making sure those, as keir said, the broadest shoulders carry the heaviest burden and that means redistributive taxation. i'm ishter interested to hear what you think of this, when listening to steve reed, you were saying about and shaking your head but why? i don't think we have ever been in a

situation where a new government has been on borrowed time as quickly as ours is. fin been on borrowed time as quickly as ours is. ,., ., ., ., j ours is. on borrowed time already? u. ours is. on borrowed time already? u- until ours is. on borrowed time already? up until the — ours is. on borrowed time already? up until the 30th _ ours is. on borrowed time already? up until the 30th of— ours is. on borrowed time already? up until the 30th of october, i ours is. on borrowed time already? up until the 30th of october, we i up until the 30th of october, we need to see in that budget some real hope and it's all very well to say the hope is there at the end of the tunnel but it needs to be in the budget. and what i fear what i was concerned about was when we are talking about how we are going to get that investment into the economy, if you look at the figures, and nick will know these, we are actually looking at investment, public sector investment going from 2.4% of gdp to 1.7% of gdp by the end of this parliament and that is not going to create the growth that stephen was talking about. that's why we need to have a budget that actually knows where it is going to get funds from to make investment and you will remember that rachel reeves in 2021 m to conference and

she said, we are going to invest in the green economy, put £28 billion a yearin the green economy, put £28 billion a year in point there was a difference between investment and borrowing for investment and borrowing for consumption. and that is the problem. rachel reeves is tying one arm behind keir starmer�*s back and she needs to be able in that budget to produce the money that is going to produce the money that is going to actually be invested into growing this economy pond and what we have we heard so far about the budget? they can talk about there being no austerity. — they can talk about there being no austerity. a — they can talk about there being no austerity, a document of what it does _ austerity, a document of what it does to— austerity, a document of what it does to a — austerity, a document of what it does to a city like this point were hundreds— does to a city like this point were hundreds of billions of pounds have been ripped out every year and what that means — been ripped out every year and what that means for vulnerable people put its all— its all well and good talk about growth but what does it mean for people _ growth but what does it mean for people on— growth but what does it mean for people on the ground? so far what we have from _ people on the ground? so far what we have from this government, not lifting _ have from this government, not lifting it — have from this government, not lifting it two—child benefit cap, not taking hundreds of thousands of kids out— not taking hundreds of thousands of kids out of— not taking hundreds of thousands of kids out of poverty over night. they have chosen — kids out of poverty over night. they have chosen to means test the winter fuel allowance which is putting lots of pensioners on the breadline, and

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public sector pay, things like renationalising the rail, likei public sector pay, things like . renationalising the rail, like gb energy. — renationalising the rail, like gb energy. scrapping— renationalising the rail, like gb energy, scrapping rwanda, - renationalising the rail, like gb energy, scrapping rwanda, ori renationalising the rail, like gb- energy, scrapping rwanda, orthose kind of— energy, scrapping rwanda, orthose kind of things — energy, scrapping rwanda, orthose kind of things could _ energy, scrapping rwanda, orthose kind of things could wreck— energy, scrapping rwanda, orthose kind of things could wreck most - kind of things could wreck most clubs— kind of things could wreck most clubs for— kind of things could wreck most clubs for kids, _ kind of things could wreck most clubs for kids, fantastic, - kind of things could wreck most clubs for kids, fantastic, these i kind of things could wreck most i clubs for kids, fantastic, these are the good _ clubs for kids, fantastic, these are the good about _ clubs for kids, fantastic, these are the good about housings- clubs for kids, fantastic, these are the good about housings for- clubs for kids, fantastic, these are i the good about housings for veterans and victims _ the good about housings for veterans and victims of — the good about housings for veterans and victims of domestic— the good about housings for veterans and victims of domestic abuse - the good about housings for veterans and victims of domestic abuse and i and victims of domestic abuse and all that— and victims of domestic abuse and all that kind — and victims of domestic abuse and all that kind of— and victims of domestic abuse and all that kind of thing. _ and victims of domestic abuse and all that kind of thing. but- and victims of domestic abuse and all that kind of thing. but i- and victims of domestic abuse and all that kind of thing. but i think. all that kind of thing. but i think the labour— all that kind of thing. but i think the labour party— all that kind of thing. but i think the labour party is— all that kind of thing. but i think the labour party is in— all that kind of thing. but i think the labour party is in a - all that kind of thing. but i think the labour party is in a difficulti the labour party is in a difficult position. — the labour party is in a difficult position. it— the labour party is in a difficult position, it has _ the labour party is in a difficult position, it has inherited - the labour party is in a difficult position, it has inherited a - position, it has inherited a complete _ position, it has inherited a complete fiscal— position, it has inherited a complete fiscal mess - position, it has inherited a complete fiscal mess and i position, it has inherited a - complete fiscal mess and also position, it has inherited a _ complete fiscal mess and also knows it has _ complete fiscal mess and also knows it has to _ complete fiscal mess and also knows it has to make — complete fiscal mess and also knows it has to make some _ complete fiscal mess and also knows it has to make some tough _ complete fiscal mess and also knows it has to make some tough choices. i it has to make some tough choices. but it— it has to make some tough choices. but it will— it has to make some tough choices. but it will also — it has to make some tough choices. but it will also remember— it has to make some tough choices. but it will also remember that - it has to make some tough choices. but it will also remember that the i but it will also remember that the austerity— but it will also remember that the austerity that _ but it will also remember that the austerity that was _ but it will also remember that the austerity that was meted - 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worked for ed miliband, the line we. worked for ed miliband, the line we used was _ worked for ed miliband, the line we used was that — worked for ed miliband, the line we used was that austerity _ worked for ed miliband, the line we used was that austerity is _ worked for ed miliband, the line we used was that austerity is political i used was that austerity is political choice _ used was that austerity is political choice and — used was that austerity is political choice and it's— used was that austerity is political choice and it's choking _ used was that austerity is political choice and it's choking off- used was that austerity is political choice and it's choking off growthi choice and it's choking off growth and that— choice and it's choking off growth and that is— choice and it's choking off growth and that is what _ choice and it's choking off growth and that is what did. _ choice and it's choking off growth and that is what did. you- choice and it's choking off growth and that is what did.— choice and it's choking off growth and that is what did. you cannot cut our wa and that is what did. you cannot cut your way to — and that is what did. you cannot cut your way to growth. _ and that is what did. you cannot cut your way to growth. and _ and that is what did. you cannot cut your way to growth. and that - and that is what did. you cannot cut your way to growth. and that ringsl your way to growth. and that rings true. your way to growth. and that rings true- what — your way to growth. and that rings true- what i _ your way to growth. and that rings true. what i hope _ your way to growth. and that rings true. what i hope we _ your way to growth. and that rings true. what i hope we will - your way to growth. and that rings true. what i hope we will see - your way to growth. and that rings true. what i hope we will see in i your way to growth. and that ringsl true. what i hope we will see in the budget, _ true. what i hope we will see in the budget, and — true. what i hope we will see in the budget, and i— true. what i hope we will see in the budget, and i think— true. what i hope we will see in the budget, and i think women - true. what i hope we will see in the budget, and i think women a - true. what i hope we will see in the budget, and i think women a bit - true. what i hope we will see in the budget, and i think women a bit ofi true. what i hope we will see in thei budget, and i think women a bit of a holding _ budget, and i think women a bit of a holding pattern— budget, and i think women a bit of a holding pattern until— budget, and i think women a bit of a holding pattern until we _ budget, and i think women a bit of a holding pattern until we get - budget, and i think women a bit of a holding pattern until we get to - holding pattern until we get to this, but— holding pattern until we get to this, but there's _ holding pattern until we get to this, but there's so _ holding pattern until we get to this, but there's so much - holding pattern until we get tol this, but there's so much riding holding pattern until we get to - this, but there's so much riding on it, this, but there's so much riding on it. there's — this, but there's so much riding on it, there's been _ this, but there's so much riding on it, there's been a _ this, but there's so much riding on it, there's been a lot— this, but there's so much riding on it, there's been a lot of— this, but there's so much riding on it, there's been a lot of talk- this, but there's so much riding on it, there's been a lot of talk about| it, there's been a lot of talk about a gloomy— it, there's been a lot of talk about a gloomy outlook _ it, there's been a lot of talk about a gloomy outlook on _ it, there's been a lot of talk about a gloomy outlook on the - it, there's been a lot of talk about a gloomy outlook on the one - it, there's been a lot of talk about i a gloomy outlook on the one picked of light— a gloomy outlook on the one picked of light that — a gloomy outlook on the one picked of light that i — a gloomy outlook on the one picked of light that i think— a gloomy outlook on the one picked of light that i think people - a gloomy outlook on the one picked of light that i think people are - of light that i think people are hoping — of light that i think people are hoping will— of light that i think people are hoping will happen _ of light that i think people are hoping will happen is- of light that i think people are hoping will happen is that - of light that i think people are i hoping will happen is that rachel reeves _ hoping will happen is that rachel reeves will— hoping will happen is that rachel reeves will find _ hoping will happen is that rachel reeves will find a _ hoping will happen is that rachel reeves will find a way _ hoping will happen is that rachel reeves will find a way to - hoping will happen is that rachel reeves will find a way to tweak. hoping will happen is that rachel. reeves will find a way to tweak the fiscal _ reeves will find a way to tweak the fiscal rules — reeves will find a way to tweak the fiscal rules so _ reeves will find a way to tweak the fiscal rules so she _ reeves will find a way to tweak the fiscal rules so she can _ reeves will find a way to tweak the fiscal rules so she can do _ reeves will find a way to tweak the fiscal rules so she can do that - fiscal rules so she can do that thing — fiscal rules so she can do that thing that— fiscal rules so she can do that thing that barry— fiscal rules so she can do that thing that barry talked - fiscal rules so she can do that thing that barry talked about| fiscal rules so she can do that - thing that barry talked about which is borrow— thing that barry talked about which is borrow some _ thing that barry talked about which is borrow some money— thing that barry talked about which is borrow some money to - thing that barry talked about which is borrow some money to invest. thing that barry talked about which is borrow some money to invest in| is borrow some money to invest in growth _ is borrow some money to invest in growth in — is borrow some money to invest in growth. in infrastructure _ is borrow some money to invest in growth. in infrastructure and - is borrow some money to invest ini growth. in infrastructure and skills and all— growth. in infrastructure and skills and all those — growth. in infrastructure and skills and all those kind _ growth. in infrastructure and skills and all those kind of— growth. in infrastructure and skills and all those kind of things - growth. in infrastructure and skills. and all those kind of things because remember, — and all those kind of things because remember, what _ and all those kind of things because remember, what was _ and all those kind of things because remember, what was the _ and all those kind of things because remember, what was the thread - remember, what was the thread running — remember, what was the thread running through _ remember, what was the thread running through the _ remember, what was the thread running through the speech - remember, what was the thread running through the speech of l remember, what was the thread . running through the speech of keir starmer— running through the speech of keir starmer today, _ running through the speech of keir starmer today, a _ running through the speech of keir starmer today, a britain— running through the speech of keir starmer today, a britain which - starmer today, a britain which belongs — starmer today, a britain which belongs to— starmer today, a britain which belongs to you _ starmer today, a britain which belongs to you. that - starmer today, a britain which belongs to you. that is - starmer today, a britain which belongs to you. that is the - starmer today, a britain which - belongs to you. that is the prudence with purpose. — belongs to you. that is the prudence with purpose. and _ belongs to you. that is the prudence with purpose, and the _ belongs to you. that is the prudence with purpose, and the purpose - belongs to you. that is the prudence with purpose, and the purpose is- with purpose, and the purpose is this britain— with purpose, and the purpose is this britain which _ with purpose, and the purpose is this britain which belongs - with purpose, and the purpose is this britain which belongs to - with purpose, and the purpose is this britain which belongs to you| this britain which belongs to you but we're — this britain which belongs to you but we're going _ this britain which belongs to you but we're going to _ this britain which belongs to you but we're going to have - this britain which belongs to you but we're going to have to - this britain which belongs to you i but we're going to have to nourish some _ but we're going to have to nourish some of— but we're going to have to nourish some of those _ but we're going to have to nourish some of those sort _ but we're going to have to nourish some of those sort of— but we're going to have to nourish some of those sort of roots - but we're going to have to nourish some of those sort of roots of - some of those sort of roots of investment _ some of those sort of roots of investment opened _ some of those sort of roots of investment opened and - some of those sort of roots of investment opened and we i some of those sort of roots of - investment opened and we talked about— investment opened and we talked about possible _ investment opened and we talked about possible tweaking - investment opened and we talked about possible tweaking the - investment opened and we talked about possible tweaking the rules last night — about possible tweaking the rules lastniaht. , , . about possible tweaking the rules last niuht. ~ , , ., last night. absolutely, all the mood music is that _ last night. absolutely, all the mood

music is that they _ last night. absolutely, all the mood music is that they are _ last night. absolutely, all the mood music is that they are going - last night. absolutely, all the mood music is that they are going to - music is that they are going to tweak that five—year—old that debt has to be falling as a share of gdp by the end of the forecast and all of the things thatjohn mcdonnell said was that he noticed the chancellor would do that, i think she will do that and come round to my fiscal rule! the former shadow chancellor saying it.— chancellor saying it. they might onl aet chancellor saying it. they might only get one — chancellor saying it. they might only get one go _ chancellor saying it. they might only get one go at _ chancellor saying it. they might only get one go at this, - chancellor saying it. they might only get one go at this, so - chancellor saying it. they might only get one go at this, so it's l chancellor saying it. they might. only get one go at this, so it's all well and — only get one go at this, so it's all well and good... only get one go at this, so it's all well and good. . ._ only get one go at this, so it's all well and good... sharon graham from unite said it — well and good... sharon graham from unite said it might _ well and good... sharon graham from unite said it might have _ well and good... sharon graham from unite said it might have one - well and good... sharon graham from unite said it might have one shot. - unite said it might have one shot. and if you don't move quickly enough. _ and if you don't move quickly enough, and is not a big enough idea in the _ enough, and is not a big enough idea in the budget that really starts to -et in the budget that really starts to get peoples lives better, people feeling — get peoples lives better, people feeling better in a couple of years, it becomes — feeling better in a couple of years, it becomes an impossible task. gn it becomes an impossible task. on that it becomes an impossible task. that point, it becomes an impossible task. q�*i that point, how patient do you think people are going to have to be? i kept saying to cabinet ministers after the speech, when, when questioned that it depends what your talk about, breakfast clubs in april, the hills below before april, people will have to be patient, aren't they?— people will have to be patient, aren't the ? ., �* aren't they? people aren't patient because they'd — aren't they? people aren't patient because they'd gone _ aren't they? people aren't patient because they'd gone through - aren't they? people aren't patient because they'd gone through 14 l because they'd gone through 14 years~~~ — because they'd gone through 14 ears... ~ ., ., years... would say, look at the inheritance, _ years... would say, look at the inheritance, it _ years... would say, look at the

inheritance, it will _ years... would say, look at the inheritance, it will take - years... would say, look at the inheritance, it will take time i years... would say, look at the inheritance, it will take time to i inheritance, it will take time to build the country back up and but what good is that if you're out of office in five years? but what good is that if you're out of office in five years?— what good is that if you're out of office in five years? but what good is it if ou office in five years? but what good is it if you have _ office in five years? but what good is it if you have a _ office in five years? but what good is it if you have a £22 _ office in five years? but what good is it if you have a £22 billion - is it if you have a £22 billion deficit in this year? we need to find that money. and that is the difficulty that is but it faces. [30 difficulty that is but it faces. do ou difficulty that is but it faces. do you think they have been boxed in by those _ you think they have been boxed in by those fixed _ you think they have been boxed in by those fixed school rules? they you think they have been boxed in by those fixed school rules?— those fixed school rules? they have and actually — those fixed school rules? they have and actually rachel— those fixed school rules? they have and actually rachel brooks - those fixed school rules? they have and actually rachel brooks is - those fixed school rules? they have and actually rachel brooks is in - those fixed school rules? they have and actually rachel brooks is in a i and actually rachel brooks is in a bit more in her speech the other day because she said she wasn't going to change corporation tax. —— she boxed us in. one of the things she could do... �* us in. one of the things she could do... . ., us in. one of the things she could do... �* ., . us in. one of the things she could do... . .. ., , ., do... and on that point she would sa the do... and on that point she would say the reason — do... and on that point she would say the reason she's _ do... and on that point she would say the reason she's not - do... and on that point she would say the reason she's not doing i do... and on that point she would l say the reason she's not doing that is because she wants to give businesses a certainty. absolutely and i businesses a certainty. absolutely and i agree _ businesses a certainty. absolutely and i agree with _ businesses a certainty. absolutely and i agree with that, _ businesses a certainty. absolutely and i agree with that, i _ businesses a certainty. absolutely and i agree with that, i run - businesses a certainty. absolutely and i agree with that, i run a i and i agree with that, i run a business in the city for 12 years. did you? business in the city for 12 years. did ou? �* business in the city for 12 years. did ou? , , i] did you? don't look so surprised! i “ust didn't did you? don't look so surprised! i just didn't know! _ did you? don't look so surprised! i just didn't know! in _ did you? don't look so surprised! i just didn't know! in an _ did you? don't look so surprised! i just didn't know! in an era - did you? don't look so surprised! i just didn't know! in an era when i did you? don't look so surprised! i | just didn't know! in an era when you wore hats just didn't know! in an era when you wore bats in — just didn't know! in an era when you wore hats in the _ just didn't know! in an era when you wore hats in the city! _ just didn't know! in an era when you wore hats in the city! you _ just didn't know! in an era when you wore hats in the city! you cheeky i wore hats in the city! you cheeky bo ! was wore hats in the city! you cheeky boy! was l _ wore hats in the city! you cheeky boy! was i born _ wore hats in the city! you cheeky boy! was i born then? _ wore hats in the city! you cheeky boy! was i born then? you've i wore hats in the city! you cheeky i boy! was i born then? you've totally thrown me off! _

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earlier, the breaking news from keir starmer which it is worth repeating because people are tuning in all the time, the marines ready for a mass evacuation of lebanon grits. what are the prime is to say on the plane to new york? he are the prime is to say on the plane to new york?— to new york? he said on that plane that his advice _ to new york? he said on that plane that his advice to _ to new york? he said on that plane that his advice to uk _ to new york? he said on that plane that his advice to uk citizens - to new york? he said on that plane that his advice to uk citizens is - to new york? he said on that plane that his advice to uk citizens is to l that his advice to uk citizens is to leave lebanon immediately and the reason why the prime minister is because there are commercial flights right now. significant announcements from the pm today — homes for veterans, domestic abuse survivors and young care leavers, and a hillsborough law, which means officials or organisations that mislead or obstruct investigatations could potentially face criminal sanctions. two men amongst many who've campaigned for it — labour mayor of manchester andy burnham and labour mayor of liverpool city region steve rotherham. how did that speech make you feel? emotional. for us, having launched

the hillsborough law now campaign in manchester together, just coming out of the pandemic, emotional really. we exchanged a look or two there. you know, keir promised it in this hall two years ago. and to see him then deliver... actually, let's remember this. the people of his city has taken this country on a justice journey. they have made this country face up to some of the things that are deeply, deeply wrong with it. we've now had a prime minister who's committed to change that. it's a massive day for the northwest of england, but particularly the city of liverpool. as mayor of liverpool, what does this law mean for the 97, the families of the 97? victoria, if i canjust say that we were maligned and we were besmirched and they fought against that, for all that. what it means for the 97 now is that there's a legacy of what happened. for people across the country, just put into context how important this

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