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fayed was a monster. lawyers for his victim _ fayed was a monster. lawyers for his victim says _ fayed was a monster. lawyers for his victim says this - fayed was a monster. lawyers for his victim says this could . for his victim says this could be the worst case of corporate sexual exploitation of young women in the world ever seen. mohamed al fayed owned harrods between 1985 and 2010, in that time, multiple allegations of rape and sexual assault made but neither police or the crown prosecution service were able to bring a case against him. the course of the cps during some of that time told us he had nothing to do with it. h0. had nothing to do with it. no, it did not _ had nothing to do with it. no, it did not cross _ had nothing to do with it. no, it did not cross my _ had nothing to do with it. mr, it did not cross my desk. senior officers take decisions in the crown prosecution service, hundreds of thousands of decisions are taken every year. i do not know the details. but certainly, i had nothing to do with it.- nothing to do with it. since the documentary _ nothing to do with it. since the documentary aired, - nothing to do with it. since - the documentary aired, dozens of people have contacted the bbc to share their experiences. among them jessica, not her real name, who told me a manager who still works for
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harrods sale to investigate when she complained about mohamed al fayed's inappropriate behaviours. she claims another manager cherry picked young girls for him. i feel quite strongly the people that facilitated it happening also need to be brought to justice. and that is part of the reason why i'm now speaking out about it. those people, you know, i can see, are still working either within the company or in other companies. and i have no doubt they have to have been fully aware of what was happening. harrods under new — what was happening. harrods under new ownership - what was happening. harrods under new ownership says . what was happening. harrods| under new ownership says it's appalled by the allegation and has lodged a compensation scheme forformer has lodged a compensation scheme for former employees who say they were attacked by mohamed al fayed. it also says it is investigating whether any current employees were involved, but has not told us whether anyone has faced any action as a result of the
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internal review. mohamed al fayed died last year, but many of his victims helpjustice can still be brought. we arejoined right now byjane, nicole, lindsay, gemma and catherine along with their barrister and our own correspondent, kelly price. catherine, we will start with you this morning, thank you for talking to us. the first thing i think we would say is take your time because i know you all have difficult, challenging and complicated stories to tell. catherine, if we could start with you. tell us what happened. i we could start with you. tell us what happened.— we could start with you. tell us what happened. i was hired in 2005 through _ us what happened. i was hired in 2005 through a _ us what happened. i was hired in 2005 through a formal - in 2005 through a formal selection process and i did not actually know who i was going to be working for. it was said to be working for. it was said to be working for. it was said to be a high net worth individual and it was at the last minute we discovered who it was going to be four and i was hired with nicole. but we
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never really saw one another, we were kept apart. the first week or so was really humiliating because i had the harrods attire of a black suit and he would call me into his office and tell me this doesn't work. this is distracting. and he would rip my buttons open on the front of my shirt. and he would stop money into my pocket and tell me to go and buy more suits. and i would come back the next day and and repeat repeated for a week. and then it was your hair is awful, you need to straighten your hair, send me for a lip wax. by the end of the first week, i was shattered. this was supposed to be a big newjob. i ended up with a lot of suits. that was my initial experience. i later travelled to paris with him, i realised i was in danger because i couldn't lock my
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door, i had to barricade the door, i had to barricade the door with a suitcase and a chair. ultimately, he forced himself upon me in his office and ifought him off and i said iam a and ifought him off and i said i am a personal assistant and thatis i am a personal assistant and that is all i do. he told me i should have gone to work in the post office. in the next day, my desk was gone and i lost my job. i my desk was gone and i lost my “ob. . , my desk was gone and i lost my “ob. ., , ,., , my desk was gone and i lost my “ob. ., , , job. i am very sorry. nicole, ou job. i am very sorry. nicole, you mentioned _ job. i am very sorry. nicole, you mentioned you - job. i am very sorry. nicole, you mentioned you started l job. i am very sorry. nicole, - you mentioned you started work at the same time. you would like to share your story with us this morning as well. my sto is us this morning as well. my story is very _ us this morning as well. my story is very similar to catherine, i was brought in through— catherine, i was brought in through a recruiter, and as a senior— through a recruiter, and as a senior executive assistant, one of the — senior executive assistant, one of the things i vividly remember in the office was a palpable _ remember in the office was a palpable anxiety that you could really _ palpable anxiety that you could really feel, a home in the air, and _ really feel, a home in the air, and people would explain it to me that — and people would explain it to
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me that he was mercurial, he would — me that he was mercurial, he would come in, and you would never— would come in, and you would never know what you're going to get. _ never know what you're going to get, you — never know what you're going to get, you would never know if he was going — get, you would never know if he was going to be any good mood, he be _ was going to be any good mood, he be shouting, every single day. — he be shouting, every single day. you _ he be shouting, every single day, you have this anxiety of what — day, you have this anxiety of what is — day, you have this anxiety of what is the day going to bring and how— what is the day going to bring and how am i going to have to manage — and how am i going to have to manage this? how will i get through— manage this? how will i get through the day? it was a battle _ through the day? it was a battle to come out the other side — battle to come out the other side smiling. the awful thing is youhi _ side smiling. the awful thing is you'd get used to it. it becomes— is you'd get used to it. it becomes normal. it was an interesting introduction to working for him, it was difficult.— working for him, it was difficult. , ., , ., ., difficult. gemma, you would like us to — difficult. gemma, you would like us to explain _ difficult. gemma, you would like us to explain what - like us to explain what happened to you. i am going to read this for the people who are watching. you worked as one of his personal assistants between 2007 and 2009, you have told us that you were raped by mohamed al fayed in paris. you say his behaviour became more frightening during work trips abroad. and it is very often the case, even having to say
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the case, even having to say the words again is another trauma. i am sorry you have to hear the words again because i know, it is deeply distressing for you. tell us the impact this period of time has had in your life. it this period of time has had in our life. , ,., this period of time has had in your life-— your life. it is something that is never going _ your life. it is something that is never going to _ your life. it is something that is never going to go - your life. it is something that is never going to go away. i is never going to go away. there are ways we can deal with it, cope with it, but ultimately, it feels like harrods is never going to disappear. it's something that is present in everyday life. i think being able to come out and speak about it although it is rehashing the trauma, it is helpful, these women have been an amazing support, and we are getting stronger together. it is trauma that is lifelong. i feel the strength when you walked in together, supporting
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one another this morning. let's talk to you, jane, you have waived your right to anonymity for the first time. you have asked us to explain what happened to you while you were working at harrods. you say you working at harrods. you say you work for mohamed al fayed for almost five years. you told us you were subjected to a number of serious sexual assault and attempted rape. why is it so important for you to speak this morning? important for you to speak this mornin: ? , ., ., .,, morning? first and foremost, it is art of morning? first and foremost, it is part of the — morning? first and foremost, it is part of the healing _ morning? first and foremost, it is part of the healing process. l is part of the healing process. i have lived with this as a secret i have been deeply ashamed for 35 years. i have not told anyone. when this action began a couple of years ago, it offered me the opportunity to perhaps deal with the trauma, and begin to heal from the trauma. initially, i healfrom the trauma. initially, i did not want to be involved because he was still alive. as ridiculous as it sounds to people not involved,
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he still felt like a threat until the moment he died. his death helped me to come forward without fear of any consequences. i have recently been able to tell my family which has been a huge thing for me. it was something i hoped i would never have to do but i have now. i would like to be able to appeal to anyone else who has been through something like this but has not come forward, i am like this but has not come forward, iam hoping like this but has not come forward, i am hoping that in doing what we are doing, we will encourage more people to do the same.— will encourage more people to do the same. lindsey, you would like us to explain _ do the same. lindsey, you would like us to explain your _ do the same. lindsey, you would like us to explain your story. - like us to explain your story. you worked as a personal assistant to mohamed al fayed for five months. assistant to mohamed al fayed forfive months. from 1989 assistant to mohamed al fayed for five months. from 1989 to 1990. you have told us he sexually harassed you, sexually assaulted you and groped you on assaulted you and groped you on a daily basis and traffic due to paris where he attempted to rape you. you have no memory of
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your trip home from paris but sustained significant injuries, you assumed you were robbed. you are falsely imprisoned in the harrods management offices by a colleague under mohamed al fayed's instruction, and he managed to escape. we were hearing about the fear that continues through the years. i wonder, having heard a tiny bit of your story there, whether you may carry that share with you may carry that share with you now. you may carry that share with you now-— you now. harrods will never leave me- _ you now. harrods will never leave me. the _ you now. harrods will never leave me. the memories i i you now. harrods will never - leave me. the memories i have from those tragic episodes, you know, they are insanely. ijust think that they need to have accountability. someone paid for the medical, i had an invasive medical procedure in order to get a secretarialjob. harrods paid for that. they enabled this whole team of
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people, who needs 25 personal assistants? they enabled all these people to enable the situation. they left us like lambs to the slaughter for one purpose. the trauma is within me, there are lots of things that trigger me. the gypsy kings music. particularly. he was always playing out. i don't know, he was always playing it. celine dion when i was there. lots— celine dion when i was there. lots of— celine dion when i was there. lots of things trigger me. we will not ever get over it, but being together now, it's a fantastic support. we should ex - lain fantastic support. we should exnlain to — fantastic support. we should explain to our— fantastic support. we should explain to our viewers, - fantastic support. we should explain to our viewers, we . fantastic support. we should i explain to our viewers, we have spoken to you beforehand about the imagery that you are ok with this morning. we do not want to cause you extra distress about seeing things or sensing things. catherine, what kind of strength do you get
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from being together? i can see you acknowledging the stories you acknowledging the stories you are hearing from your new—found friends. you are hearing from your new-found friends. watching the documentary _ new-found friends. watching the documentary last _ new-found friends. watching the documentary last week, - new-found friends. watching the documentary last week, i - new-found friends. watching the documentary last week, i was i documentary last week, i was shouting at the screen because people were saying things and i was like, yes, that is what happened. that is what happened on friday, we met at the press conference, we became instant friends and we were swapping war stories and will have the same pattern even though if you lined us up, we go from working in the 805 to the mid—2000, really nothing changed from what he was doing, we were in the same place with the same doors which are unlocked, our pa55port5 were taken away on our trips to paris, we all had the same experience. being together, it's good to think, i thought for ages this is just me. i thinkjen 5aid thought for ages this is just me. i thinkjen said on friday
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about walking out feeling three feet taller because you feel like you higher empowered by everyone else as well. listening to the start of your stories, i wonder whether there was a tremendous culture of secrecy. was a tremendous culture of secre . , ~' secrecy. yes, it felt like that. secrecy. yes, it felt like that- l— secrecy. yes, it felt like that. i really _ secrecy. yes, it felt like that. i really felt - secrecy. yes, it felt like that. i really felt like i secrecy. yes, it felt like i that. i really felt like people were not being honest and open, it was really difficult thing to broach because i did not know what was true, wasn't true, there were rumours. people were talking, but for me, his reputation was more, oh, he's a bit of a lecture, he's a bit pansy. it was not more serious accusations because —— he is a bit to two. the medical was highly invasive, i thought, the medical was highly invasive, ithought, hang on, thatis invasive, ithought, hang on, that is not right. it was a
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full body mot, aren't you lucky, that would cost you thousands, you're so lucky getting there. we were basically gaslight into accepting behaviour that was not normal. i accepting behaviour that was not normal.— accepting behaviour that was not normal. i was really struck when catherine _ not normal. i was really struck when catherine was _ not normal. i was really struck when catherine was talking i when catherine was talking about the range of dates when you work for him. it summarises how long a period we are talking about.— how long a period we are talkin: about. �* , , , talking about. it's disgusting. it's talking about. it's disgusting. lt's shopping _ talking about. it's disgusting. it's shopping the _ talking about. it's disgusting. it's shopping the amount i talking about. it's disgusting. it's shopping the amount of. it's shopping the amount of women who have probably been involved over those years. —— it is shocking. it could be thousands. there must have been hundreds of women brought to the office and disappeared into meeting rooms and were left crying. it's such a secrecy surrounding it all. you are terrified to speak out and ask questions, so you accepted what was going on. you internalised that, is itjust me? am i the victim of the really hard
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behaviour? it's terrifying to think of. i behaviour? it's terrifying to think of. . . ., , think of. i am curious, there is a pattern _ think of. i am curious, there is a pattern here. _ think of. i am curious, there is a pattern here. a - think of. i am curious, there is a pattern here. a pattern| think of. i am curious, there i is a pattern here. a pattern of behaviour. tell us about the significance of the foreign trips. significance of the foreign tri s. ., ,., ., trips. he tried to isolate me. i was told — trips. he tried to isolate me. i was told that _ trips. he tried to isolate me. i was told that i _ trips. he tried to isolate me. i was told that i was - trips. he tried to isolate me. i was told that i was going i trips. he tried to isolate me. | i was told that i was going on a business trip to paris when in fact, i was being trafficked. i went for dinner, we went to the rates with another colleague. and three celebrities. and i got it up on my shoulder by the security, and me and there's colleague got taken to our accommodation which i assumed would be the ritz hotel because he owned it and we were there, but we got taken to an apartment, and as she walked in, all the doors locked behind us, and i said to the security guy, what is that all about? and he said oh, it's
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to keep you safe. but it was to make sure you couldn't escape. that was my experience. it was the most terrifying night of my life. ~ . the most terrifying night of my life. . . ,, . ,, life. we are speechless listening _ life. we are speechless listening to _ life. we are speechless listening to the - life. we are speechless| listening to the stories. life. we are speechless i listening to the stories. you must share that sense of, even though he had been through it, that sense of incredulity that others are going through. figs others are going through. as far as i others are going through. is far as i am aware, others are going through. is faras i am aware, we others are going through. is far as i am aware, we were at the earlier people to have worked him at harrods. i felt at the time that it was only happening to me. isolation was a really important thing for him. he made you feel that you were the only person he was doing this too. but you have to remember as well our phones were tapped, there was surveillance cameras in our office. i had an apartment in park lane that was given to me by mohamed al fayed to life end. ifound out at by mohamed al fayed to life end. i found out at a by mohamed al fayed to life end. ifound out at a later date that it had cameras and eight. we never had an
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opportunity to speak to one another and try and find the common ground that it was only happening to you. we were constantly living in fear of the fact that we were being listened to and watched at all times. as sad as it is, one of the things that has given me huge comfort is the safety in numbers, it wasn't only me, it's terribly sad how many women it has happened to you, i think there are still probably victims who have not had the strength to come forward. the sense of being _ strength to come forward. the sense of being monitored at that time, do you think that lasted for years? is that one of the reason she could not come forward? didn't want to speak about this for so long? the other thing none of us has spoken about yet but certainly for me was a huge issue, feeling deeply ashamed of what happened. feeling guilty, feeling that somehow this was my fault, was my skirt too short? was my lip gloss to glossy? has spent the last 35
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years thinking that was my fault. what happened was my fault. what happened was my fault. i stayed for nearly five years. that was my fault. i was terrified to leave. i had threats made against myself and my family if i were to even speak about it. you know, it took me a great deal of courage took me a great deal of courage to be able to even voice the words. in to be able to even voice the words. , ., ., , ~ , words. in situations like this, the perpetrator _ words. in situations like this, the perpetrator will _ words. in situations like this, the perpetrator will take i words. in situations like this, the perpetrator will take your power away. you feel powerless. was there ever a moment that you could try despite that, confront him, and if you did, what happened? i confront him, and if you did, what happened?— confront him, and if you did, what happened? i lost my 'ob. i said, what happened? i lost my 'ob. i said. — what happened? i lost my 'ob. i said. getfi what happened? i lost my 'ob. i said, no, get away i what happened? i lost my 'ob. i said, no, get away from i what happened? i lost my job. i said, no, get away from me, i what happened? i lost my job. i l said, no, get away from me, and that was it. that was what happened there. ultimately, i was glad, i was lucky to get out. ~., . �*
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was glad, i was lucky to get out. ., ~ was glad, iwas lucky to get out. ., ~ ., out. mohamed al fayed said to me i should — out. mohamed al fayed said to me i should look _ out. mohamed al fayed said to me i should look at _ out. mohamed al fayed said to me i should look at him - out. mohamed al fayed said to me i should look at him as i out. mohamed al fayed said to me i should look at him as a i me i should look at him as a father— me i should look at him as a father figure and he would protect— father figure and he would protect me, care for me, look after— protect me, care for me, look after me. _ protect me, care for me, look after me, hence the apartments i did _ after me, hence the apartments ldld hot— after me, hence the apartments i did not have to travel home late — i did not have to travel home late at— i did not have to travel home late at night and he asked me to call— late at night and he asked me to call him papa, and when the abuse — to call him papa, and when the abuse started, my response time after— abuse started, my response time after time — abuse started, my response time after time was you cannot do this, — after time was you cannot do this, i— after time was you cannot do this, i look at you as a father figure. — this, i look at you as a father figure, please do not behave in this manner. and to some degree, _ this manner. and to some degree, in certain circumstances, that worked. in others, — circumstances, that worked. in others, not _ circumstances, that worked. in others, not so much. we circumstances, that worked. in others, not so much.— others, not so much. we are auoin others, not so much. we are going to _ others, not so much. we are going to give _ others, not so much. we are going to give you _ others, not so much. we are going to give you a _ others, not so much. we are going to give you a break- others, not so much. we are| going to give you a break and come back to you in a moment. if i can talk to the barrister, if i can talk to the barrister, i know the women we have here in the studio this morning have come forward before the documentary went out last week, but you have heard from others in the meantime over the last few days. what is happening legally now? we few days. what is happening legally now?—
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few days. what is happening leaall now? . ., ., legally now? we have heard from scores of women, _ legally now? we have heard from scores of women, up _ legally now? we have heard from scores of women, up to _ legally now? we have heard from scores of women, up to 200, i legally now? we have heard from | scores of women, up to 200, who are coming to us together accounts, very similar accounts to the women's accounts this morning. what has happened legally, we are building a claim, a worldwide claim, it's very important that i stressed, there are individuals who are affected by this in this country principally, but other countries as well. the us, canada, to name but two. and we are building a worldwide claim, but our claim is centred upon harrods. because the real issue, there was a monster. i called him a monster last week and i stand by that remark. the real issue is there was a whole system to facilitate this. he was not installing cameras for these purposes alone, he was not removing keys on his own, he was not creating this atmosphere of fear. he was not,
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for example, he talks about speaking up and things of that nature, and how it has lasted with people. he would say, if you reveal this to anyone, we are after your family, we you reveal this to anyone, we are after yourfamily, we know yourfamily are after yourfamily, we know your family life. are after yourfamily, we know yourfamily life. in orderfor your family life. in order for that yourfamily life. in orderfor that threat you have any validity, which it did, other people must have been involved. 0ur people must have been involved. our legal claim very much centres on the point that this was a process, this was a system in harrods. it was to facilitate the abuse that he won indulge it is really important, and the key thing for me, the bravery of these women, the community they are creating so that people can come forward and say there was a process, i want tojoin come forward and say there was a process, i want to join that process, we have had a number of people who have said until
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the documentary, until the women have been public which is wonderful, and i applaud and salute you all, until such times, i did not have the courage to do that. but i do now. and through that community, we will get to the bottom of this widespread panoply of people involved in the system who created the system. i the system who created the s stem. ~ ., i. the system who created the s stem. ~ ., ., , system. i know you have been followin: system. i know you have been following this _ system. i know you have been following this investigation i following this investigation closely, i wonder, following this investigation closely, iwonder, are following this investigation closely, i wonder, are you also hearing more women who can come forward? ., . , hearing more women who can come forward? ., ., , , , forward? unfortunately, yes. since the _ forward? unfortunately, yes. since the documentary i forward? unfortunately, yes. since the documentary was l since the documentary was released last thursday, we have had dozens, a conservative estimate, of women coming forward _ estimate, of women coming forward who have similar stories— forward who have similar stories to the women we have here _ stories to the women we have here in— stories to the women we have here in the studio today. as well— here in the studio today. as well as— here in the studio today. as well as those who worked at harrods _ well as those who worked at harrods during that time from 1985— harrods during that time from 1985 to— harrods during that time from 1985 to 2010, i will give you those — 1985 to 2010, i will give you those dates again, it such a long —
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those dates again, it such a long time _ those dates again, it such a long time that mohamed al fayed was a _ long time that mohamed al fayed was a chairman. we have been hearing — was a chairman. we have been hearing testimonies from women who had — hearing testimonies from women who had the situations, and people _ who had the situations, and people who work with them. what is striking — people who work with them. what is striking is the stories are very— is striking is the stories are very similar. it is also worth mentioning that harrods came under— mentioning that harrods came under new ownership in 2010, they— under new ownership in 2010, they say— under new ownership in 2010, they say it _ under new ownership in 2010, they say it is very much a different— they say it is very much a different place to work now. they— different place to work now. they have said as i said in my report— they have said as i said in my report earlier, they are appalled by what happened. they say they— appalled by what happened. they say they understand that they failed — say they understand that they failed what they call victims and all— failed what they call victims and all of theirs. they seek to redress— and all of theirs. they seek to redress the balance on all of theirs — redress the balance on all of theirs. what they have said is theirs. what they have said is the app — theirs. what they have said is the app launched a concert insulation —— a compensation scheme — insulation —— a compensation scheme for anyone who feels they— scheme for anyone who feels they were a victim of mohamed al fayed — they were a victim of mohamed al fayed to come forward and talk to— al fayed to come forward and talk to them. they have different working processes in place — different working processes in place. there are some questions that need — place. there are some questions that need to be answered. i spoke — that need to be answered. i spoke to— that need to be answered. i spoke to another woman who was not in _ spoke to another woman who was not in the — spoke to another woman who was not in the documentary the other— not in the documentary the other day, she said that she
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felt she _ other day, she said that she felt she was too full, the collusion was too full, there was — collusion was too full, there was someone at harrods who she felt cherry— was someone at harrods who she felt cherry picked her and put her on — felt cherry picked her and put her on the line of fire for mohamed al fayed, and when she went to _ mohamed al fayed, and when she went to complain about his inappropriate behaviour, she was — inappropriate behaviour, she was not _ inappropriate behaviour, she was not the century. she claims one of— was not the century. she claims one of the — was not the century. she claims one of the people that she spoke _ one of the people that she spoke to sale works at harrods. they— spoke to sale works at harrods. they say— spoke to sale works at harrods. they say at _ spoke to sale works at harrods. they say at harrods as part of an internal review they have undergoing sense 2023, they are investigating whether any current _ investigating whether any current staff are involved in his allegations. they have not told us — his allegations. they have not told us whether anyone is facing _ told us whether anyone is facing any action because of the internal review or how long it will— the internal review or how long it will take.— it will take. lets come back to all of you _ it will take. lets come back to all of you as — it will take. lets come back to all of you as a _ it will take. lets come back to all of you as a virus _ it will take. lets come back to all of you as a virus and i it will take. lets come back to all of you as a virus and give l all of you as a virus and give you last word. we many scandals globally over the last few years, that have hit the headlines in america, in the headlines in america, in the uk, where women have been treated so badly, when you have heard those names that are out
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there? you have known there is another name and another story that has not been out there, what has that been like to live with? it what has that been like to live with? , ., ., , with? it is one of those things where you _ with? it is one of those things where you hope _ with? it is one of those things where you hope that - with? it is one of those things where you hope that it - with? it is one of those things where you hope that it will. where you hope that it will eventually come to the surface, you know, it has now been bubbling away. but it's been such a long time, i had given up such a long time, i had given up hope that anyone was going to actually find out anything because he was so successful at covering his tracks. he was so successful at putting people in front of him that he could hide behind. they basically enable that behaviour to continue for so long. the people who should have stepped in, that should have stepped in, that should have been the checks and balances along the way, they were not. so when one of the things we hear is, why did you not come forward earlier? why did these women not speak up at
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the time? it's all very well now that he's dead, but i feel like saying, where are they going to go and he is dead, but ifeel like saying, where going to go and he is dead, but i feel like saying, where are they going to go into this picture? this man was a litigious billionaire, and if you are a 20—something girl earning £20,000 a year, who is going to go up against him? nobody. these people had nowhere to go. it's really heart—warming for us now to see that people believe her story, they are listening, and more women are feeling confident they can tell the story. you feel, gemma, _ they can tell the story. you feel, gemma, listening i they can tell the story. you feel, gemma, listening to| they can tell the story. you feel, gemma, listening to those words, do you feel like there might be, after this horror, there might be some hope to come? it! there might be some hope to come? �* ~' ., ~' there might be some hope to come? �* ~ ., ~ �* come? i'd like to think so. i'd like to think _ come? i'd like to think so. i'd like to think hr _ come? i'd like to think so. i'd like to think hr departments| like to think hr departments are getting the checks in place _ are getting the checks in place. harrods cannot be the only— place. harrods cannot be the only place this has happened to. only place this has happened to if— only place this has happened to. if this stops it happening
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to. if this stops it happening to one — to. if this stops it happening to one person, it's a win. we should — to one person, it's a win. we should not— to one person, it's a win. we should not have to be sitting here — should not have to be sitting here right now going over the story. — here right now going over the story, let _ here right now going over the story, let alone have to go through— story, let alone have to go through in the first place. | through in the first place. i saw through in the first place. saw you through in the first place. i saw you nodding about the prospect for change now. there should be _ prospect for change now. there should be checks _ prospect for change now. there should be checks in _ prospect for change now. there should be checks in place i prospect for change now. there should be checks in place for i should be checks in place for younger people in the workplace, they do not know where to go, and how to manage this. they had to pay their rent, we could not have gone anywhere, if they know that there is a way out is that they do not have to go through it, that's a good thing. the problem _ that's a good thing. the problem is, _ that's a good thing. the problem is, it's - that's a good thing. the problem is, it's all- that's a good thing. the problem is, it's all very| that's a good thing. the problem is, it's all very well someone saying why did you not speak earlier, the person at the centre of this, the victim of all of this is not the person who can speak up at the time. they are the person who needs to be protected. we said when we first introduced you, you decided to waive your right
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to anonymity. he explained why you were doing that. having sat here for the last half hour until your story, here for the last half hour untilyourstory, i here for the last half hour until your story, i wonder what that feels like and what your messages to anyone else who might be watching this morning who has a similar story to tell but has told no one and has not come forward. i but has told no one and has not come forward.— come forward. i would urge an one come forward. i would urge anyone who _ come forward. i would urge anyone who is _ come forward. i would urge anyone who is in _ come forward. i would urge anyone who is in any i come forward. i would urge anyone who is in any doubt| anyone who is in any doubt about whether they would be supported and looked after and listened to, that will happen now, and i urge anyone to come forward if they have not already and i think we cannot hold mohamed al fayed to account because he is dead, but what we can do now is be absolutely sure that people know the truth about this man. he was not a gregarious charity giving clown. he was a dangerous sexual predator. thank you so much for coming and talking so honestly. we do
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not underestimate the challenge of doing that on live television with the lights and cameras. we really, really do appreciate you and i know people watching will have learned a lot today from everything that you have said. thank you so much. we will keep across this story in the weeks and months to come. you can watch the full documentary on bbc iplayer now.
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people have been killed today. british nationals are being urged to evacuate the region. also on the programme... as the number of women alleging they were sexually assualted by harrods boss mohammed al fayed approaches 200, five of his original accusers come together to call forjustice. initially, i didn't want to be involved because he was still alive and as ridiculous as that may sound to people not involved, he still felt like a threat until the moment he died. a blow to the government in the closing moments of labour party conference — as unions vote against bringing in cuts to the winter fuel allowance. and, "my chance to tell my side of the story." phillip schofield makes a return to national tv, 16 months after his controversial exit from itv. 0n bbc london... the landfill which has caught fire more than 100 times. now locals are preparing
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