an israeli army chief tells his troops to prepare for a ground invasion in lebanon. what would that look like, what is as real�*s goal and what would iran do? and just under a year ago, and what would iran do? and just undera yearago, i must and what would iran do? and just under a year ago, i must make attacked the nova music festival and kills more than 360 young people in southern israel. tonight we will speak to two of the survivors. good evening. coming up... the latest on the intense diplomacy

going on in new york, as the un security council meets on the middle east situation. these are the live pictures. it's an emergency session of the council. nick will bring you the details shortly. first, almost a year ago on october 7th, people and sites across southern israel were attacked by hamas, proscribed as a terrorist organisation by multiple governments. one of their targets was a festival, the nova music festival, where thousands of young people had gathered for a rave. tomorrow a bbc storyville documentary gives a harrowing insight into the assault on those young people who came to dance, have fun and be with their friends. the footage you're about to see is very upsetting. using the testimony of survivors, cctv, and mobile phone videos, plus gopro footage from hamas, who were livestreaming, the film tells the stories of those

who lived, those who were taken hostage and those who died when hamas arrived and began to kill anyone in sight. a festival for around 3500 young israelis and otherforeign nationals ended with 364 people murdered, and 44 others taken hostage. here's an extract from the film. we're going to talk now to 25—year—old noam and girlfriend of david. david was murdered whilst he and noam both hid at the festival in a rubbish skip.

alongside noam is ben, who is 28, and he helped a mum called moran, a mum of two young boys, to survive. thank you for being here. i want to ask you both first of all, why you wanted to take part in this film. i why you wanted to take part in this film. . j~ why you wanted to take part in this film. . f~ , why you wanted to take part in this film. ., j~ , , why you wanted to take part in this film. ., f~ , , ., film. i am 28, he is 25, 'ust to make that i film. i am 28, he is 25, 'ust to make that sure. * film. i am 28, he is 25, 'ust to make that sure. did _ film. i am 28, he is 25, 'ust to make that sure. did i h film. i am 28, he is 25, just to make that sure. did i get - film. i am 28, he is 25, just to make that sure. did i get out. film. i am 28, he is 25, just to i make that sure. did i get out the wron: make that sure. did i get out the wrong way _ make that sure. did i get out the wrong way round? _ make that sure. did i get out the wrong way round? i _ make that sure. did i get out the wrong way round? i am - make that sure. did i get out the wrong way round? i am so - make that sure. did i get out the wrong way round? i am so sorry. i guess the main thing why i took part is because we can't sit down and be quiet about everything that happened. we have a lot of friends and family members that are still hostage. we will not sit down and be quiet. we had a huge part and this is our mission. to be here, to tell

the world, but we have been through, and that no one can deny it. how can people deny, tell me, where is my boyfriend? i should people deny, tell me, where is my boyfriend? ishould be people deny, tell me, where is my boyfriend? i should be married right now. i had a life that changed just like that. everything that i love to do, it is hard to do right now. we want to get our life back. the little we can do is to be here and to be the next generation that change and it is about humanity, it is not about war. it is about being human. ., ., ,., is not about war. it is about being human. ., ., i. is not about war. it is about being human. ., ., to be human. then, what about you? to be art of human. then, what about you? to be part of this — human. then, what about you? to be part of this explanation, _ human. then, what about you? to be part of this explanation, it _ human. then, what about you? to be part of this explanation, it is - human. then, what about you? to be part of this explanation, it is so - part of this explanation, it is so important — part of this explanation, it is so important for me, for a lot of my friends _ important for me, for a lot of my friends that — important for me, for a lot of my friends that do it in israel. but it is not _

friends that do it in israel. but it is not obvious to be here, to speak on the _ is not obvious to be here, to speak on the bbc, — is not obvious to be here, to speak on the bbc, to speak to the world, because _ on the bbc, to speak to the world, because this situation never happened to us. it is our friend, our family. _ happened to us. it is our friend, ourfamily, it is happened to us. it is our friend, our family, it is people that were very close — our family, it is people that were very close to us. and to be part of it and _ very close to us. and to be part of it and to _ very close to us. and to be part of it and to be — very close to us. and to be part of it and to be here, for me it is really— it and to be here, for me it is really important. i it and to be here, for me it is really important.— it and to be here, for me it is really important. i guess that we have experienced _ really important. i guess that we have experienced it, _ really important. i guess that we have experienced it, we - really important. i guess that we - have experienced it, we experienced the war we had before the holocaust. so we had the holocaust, we will not let this happen again, never. and we had the privilege to have phones with us. so this generation can prove things. we have another way to

deal with it. and that is a huge thing, to be one of those people that can change it and to be part of this movie is not taken for granted. and the film, which will be out on bbc iplayer tomorrow and bbc two tomorrow evening, shows much of the film footage that people like you took that date and many others. and footage from dash cams in cars. what prompted you to record what you were seeing and what you were hearing, what you were experiencing? to record these things in this situation is not easy at all. i remember when situation is not easy at all. i rememberwhen i situation is not easy at all. i remember when i started to film, i remember— remember when i started to film, i rememberwhenl remember when i started to film, i rememberwhen i was remember when i started to film, i remember when i was running away to my car— remember when i was running away to my car and _ remember when i was running away to my car and a _ remember when i was running away to my car and a lot of people on me and

beside _ my car and a lot of people on me and beside me. _ my car and a lot of people on me and beside me, screaming with blood and everything _ beside me, screaming with blood and everything is like chaos, and i need to step _ everything is like chaos, and i need to step forward and to be called in this situation and i see a lot of people — this situation and i see a lot of people running and i hear the guns, the bullets. — people running and i hear the guns, the bullets, everything. and i start my first _ the bullets, everything. and i start my first video. when i picture everybody. this time i realise this is something that never happened. i live is something that never happened. i iive in— is something that never happened. i live in this _ is something that never happened. i live in this area and i know sometimes there is rackets and i need _ sometimes there is rackets and i need to— sometimes there is rackets and i need to get inside the shelter, and i need to get inside the shelter, and i don't _ need to get inside the shelter, and i don't get — need to get inside the shelter, and i don't get panicked about it, but this idon't get panicked about it, but this is— idon't get panicked about it, but this is hot— i don't get panicked about it, but this is not something like this, this is not something like this, this is— this is not something like this, this is more than that and this is not one — this is more than that and this is not one or— this is more than that and this is not one or two that come in from gaza, _ not one or two that come in from gaza, it — not one or two that come in from gaza, it is — not one or two that come in from gaza, it is thousands. i start to record — gaza, it is thousands. i start to record everybody, photo here, video there. _ record everybody, photo here, video there. and _ record everybody, photo here, video there, and after that i record everybody, photo here, video there, and afterthat i remember when— there, and afterthat i remember wherri— there, and afterthat i remember when i was— there, and afterthat i remember when i was under the tree, i thought this is— when i was under the tree, i thought this is going — when i was under the tree, i thought this is going to be my last video. and this — this is going to be my last video. and this is — this is going to be my last video. and this is the video with moran and

there _ and this is the video with moran and there it _ and this is the video with moran and there it was — and this is the video with moran and there it was really quiet, just us, and from — there it was really quiet, just us, and from there i start to record when _ and from there i start to record when i — and from there i start to record when i can— and from there i start to record when i can record it, to take a picture — when i can record it, to take a picture of— when i can record it, to take a picture of everything, to it is going — picture of everything, to it is going to _ picture of everything, to it is going to be worth, and now i understand how much it is worth. | understand how much it is worth. remember understand how much it is worth. i remember that david told me, why are you taking photos, when everything is happening, and i knewi you taking photos, when everything is happening, and i knew i guess and my body knew, that this is something unusual, as ben said. to hear a girl screaming from outside of the trash container, please leave me, don't take me, and to realise there is a possibility of being kidnapped, it is crazy, so we wanted to take the footage so no one can say anything and if you want to explain, people cannot imagine those things. in the movie easy blood and guns, things like that, so it is easier to

explain what we have been through and what we experienced and everything that happened, when you have something that someone can look at. that have something that someone can look at. �* ., ._ ., i. at. at the end of the day, not you, everybody. — at. at the end of the day, not you, everybody. if _ at. at the end of the day, not you, everybody. if you _ at. at the end of the day, not you, everybody, if you do _ at. at the end of the day, not you, everybody, if you do not _ at. at the end of the day, not you, everybody, if you do not be - at. at the end of the day, not you, everybody, if you do not be there, | everybody, if you do not be there, you will_ everybody, if you do not be there, you will never understand. this movie. — you will never understand. this movie, these videos, everything that we do. _ movie, these videos, everything that we do, everything that everybody does, _ we do, everything that everybody does. we — we do, everything that everybody does, we try to do the best thing, a doctor— does, we try to do the best thing, a doctor how— does, we try to do the best thing, a doctor how to explain, this is really— doctor how to explain, this is really hard for us. gn doctor how to explain, this is really hard for us.— really hard for us. on that saturday mornin: really hard for us. on that saturday morning as — really hard for us. on that saturday morning as the sun _ really hard for us. on that saturday morning as the sun was _ really hard for us. on that saturday morning as the sun was rising, - really hard for us. on that saturday morning as the sun was rising, that is when the rave began really. so the music is loud, the sky is blue, the music is loud, the sky is blue, the sun is rising, people are dancing, people are happy. people are hugging each other, having the best time. i wonder was there a point or was it a very slow

realisation that something wasn't right. i realisation that something wasn't ri . ht. , , ., , realisation that something wasn't riuht. ,, ,_, , right. i guess it was step-by-step, alon: the right. i guess it was step-by-step, along the way- _ right. i guess it was step-by-step, along the way. at _ right. i guess it was step-by-step, along the way. at first _ right. i guess it was step-by-step, along the way. at first no - right. i guess it was step-by-step, along the way. at first no one - right. i guess it was step-by-step, | along the way. at first no one knew what to do. everyone ran everywhere, some of them even sat down and listen to music. david even told we don't get panicked, everything would be ok, let's search for another open party. we didn't realise it but step—by—step we started to get nervous. then we hear only arabic and we realise no one was going to save us and we were alone in the field. people like ben and david took a step forward to be there and took a step forward to be there and to protect the people that were with us. we were there for each other, the young generation, we have so much power in our hands and we proved that that day and i guess that yeah, is the time goes by we realise that no one is going to save

us and there is only hamas outside. so you do what you can for each other which is why you took the decision to help moran, this mum of three young children, she obviously wanted to survive, to get back to her kids, you didn't know her, but she stayed with her and there were times when she was saying, you go ahead, i am times when she was saying, you go ahead, iam holding times when she was saying, you go ahead, i am holding you times when she was saying, you go ahead, iam holding you back times when she was saying, you go ahead, i am holding you back and slowing you down, but she didn't. now, there is no way. i seriously tell this — now, there is no way. i seriously tell this from my heart. it is how my family— tell this from my heart. it is how my family brought me up. she looked inside _ my family brought me up. she looked inside my— my family brought me up. she looked inside my eyes and told me, seriously, _ inside my eyes and told me, seriously, stop, grab me, leave me here _ seriously, stop, grab me, leave me here i_ seriously, stop, grab me, leave me here i am — seriously, stop, grab me, leave me here. i am slowing you down. and i tell her. _

here. i am slowing you down. and i tell her. this — here. i am slowing you down. and i tell her, this is not going to happen _ tell her, this is not going to happen. i_ tell her, this is not going to happen. i am seriously right now, and they— happen. i am seriously right now, and they feel around me all the energy— and they feel around me all the energy from the past. i was in the military— energy from the past. i was in the military service. i did a lot of things— military service. i did a lot of things in— military service. i did a lot of things in my life. i still remained my family. — things in my life. i still remained my family, because of them, like myself— my family, because of them, like myself right now, and it doesn't matter— myself right now, and it doesn't matter for— myself right now, and it doesn't matter for me. if it is in my life, the first— matter for me. if it is in my life, the first thing is to help the other people. _ the first thing is to help the other people, because i realise that high bower~ _ people, because i realise that high power. right now i have power, physically, _ power. right now i have power, physically, mind, everything, why should— physically, mind, everything, why should i_ physically, mind, everything, why should i not took someone with me? why should — should i not took someone with me? why should i not take a lot of people — why should i not take a lot of people with me? because i have this bower~ _ people with me? because i have this bower~ this — people with me? because i have this power. this time ijust did what they— power. this time ijust did what they did — power. this time ijust did what they did it— power. this time ijust did what they did. it was hard, but moran

heibed _ they did. it was hard, but moran helped me. she is a strong woman. noam, _ helped me. she is a strong woman. noam, cah— helped me. she is a strong woman. noam, can i— helped me. she is a strong woman. noam, can i ask you what david was like? , , , like? david is the biggest light i have ever seen _ like? david is the biggest light i have ever seen in _ like? david is the biggest light i have ever seen in my _ like? david is the biggest light i have ever seen in my life. - like? david is the biggest light i have ever seen in my life. the | like? david is the biggest light i i have ever seen in my life. the first day that i met david icke told him, you are an angel, you are not from here. i guess i was right. —— i met david i told him. he can meet for a second and you will not forget him. this blonde, tall guy, only saying good things about people, and this blonde, tall guy, only saying good things about people, and therefore his family, and his therefore his family, and his friends, and loved to live life, to friends, and loved to live life, to celebrate life, to live life to the celebrate life, to live life to the fullest. he taught me how to live fullest. he taught me how to live life to the fullest. he really gave life to the fullest. he really gave me the power to believe that i am a me the power to believe that i am a strong woman and i guess that this strong woman and i guess that this is my mission right now, to stay is my mission right now, to stay that strong woman and to be there that strong woman and to be there for others, even though since the for others, even though since the

7th of saying 7th of october we try to recover our self. it is really hard. no sleep at night, a lot of anxiety, a lot of stress, but i am saying thank you every single day for having david, and to experience that amazing relationship that we had, and to be able to travel seven months with him all over the world and in india and to do things that i

her words are so moving and poignant. i wonder what they mean to you when you hear her say she is alive because of you. i remember this record _ alive because of you. i remember this record very _ alive because of you. i remember this record very well. _ alive because of you. i remember this record very well. i _ alive because of you. i remember this record very well. i cried - alive because of you. i remember this record very well. i cried at. this record very well. i cried at this— this record very well. i cried at this record _ this record very well. i cried at this record because i didn't understand what it was like. there

was one _ understand what it was like. there was one thing in my life that happened to me when someone tells you because of you i am alive... i don't _ you because of you i am alive... i don't know— you because of you i am alive... i don't know how to call it... goose bum s, don't know how to call it... goose bumps. we _ don't know how to call it... goose bumps. we say — don't know how to call it... goose bumps, we say goose _ don't know how to call it... goose bumps, we say goose bumps. - don't know how to call it... goose i bumps, we say goose bumps. goose bum -s bumps, we say goose bumps. goose bums in bumps, we say goose bumps. goose bumps in this _ bumps, we say goose bumps. goose bumps in this moment. _ bumps, we say goose bumps. goose bumps in this moment. we - bumps, we say goose bumps. goose bumps in this moment. we talk- bumps, we say goose bumps. goose bumps in this moment. we talk about this a _ bumps in this moment. we talk about this a lot _ bumps in this moment. we talk about this a lot we — bumps in this moment. we talk about this a lot. i've met her a lot of times— this a lot. i've met her a lot of times and _ this a lot. i've met her a lot of times and i_ this a lot. i've met her a lot of times and i realised a lot about myself, — times and i realised a lot about myself, a — times and i realised a lot about myself, a lot of things that helped me in_ myself, a lot of things that helped me in this — myself, a lot of things that helped me in this situation and in this life to — me in this situation and in this life to help me be very focused in these _ life to help me be very focused in these situations. and when moran said it _ these situations. and when moran said it to— these situations. and when moran said it to my father... irememberthis i remember this moment that i helped and i i remember this moment that i helped and i don't _ i remember this moment that i helped and i don't tell to myself like i'm going _ and i don't tell to myself like i'm going to — and i don't tell to myself like i'm going to be a hero or something like this. going to be a hero or something like this this— going to be a hero or something like this this is— going to be a hero or something like this. this is not the situation. i just— this. this is not the situation. i just did — this. this is not the situation. i just did what i did because i wanted to do— just did what i did because i wanted to do that _ just did what i did because i wanted to do that with my heart. you automatically _ to do that with my heart. you automatically did _ to do that with my heart. you automatically did that - to do that with my heart. gm. automatically did that and you did not expect that but to hear from the

other side that you gave her life, her life back, to see her kids after this, it's amazing and i don't think that he even realised he had that power in his hands. so that's amazing that people like him did such a thing and saved others. just imaaine such a thing and saved others. just imagine moran's daughter sent me another— imagine moran's daughter sent me another message, and this was not recorded _ another message, and this was not recorded but she wrote me a big message — recorded but she wrote me a big message and even this, i cry like a baby, _ message and even this, i cry like a baby, seriously. i message and even this, i cry like a baby. seriously-— baby, seriously. i want to ask you finall , if baby, seriously. i want to ask you finally. if i — baby, seriously. i want to ask you finally. ifi may. _ baby, seriously. i want to ask you finally, ifi may, how— baby, seriously. i want to ask you finally, ifi may, how do - baby, seriously. i want to ask you finally, if i may, how do you, - baby, seriously. i want to ask you finally, ifi may, how do you, how finally, if i may, how do you, how are you trying to process what happened that day? i are you trying to process what happened that day?— are you trying to process what happened that day? i think we can never process _ happened that day? i think we can never process but _ happened that day? i think we can never process but we _ happened that day? i think we can never process but we have - happened that day? i think we can never process but we have a - happened that day? i think we can never process but we have a huge | never process but we have a huge community, the nova community, which we are blessed to have after this. we have each other. we process it

together. we have a lot of anxiety that we cannot get through this. sleeping not well, i already told you, and our life changed injust a second. i went back to my parents' house, i don't even have a room there. i needed to start walking again, i was in a wheelchair. so everything changed in my life. even the fact that i loved to paint, i came as an artist. david came to this party because i was invited to paint, for me. it's really hard to continue doing what i love because it brings up so much trauma, tragedy and triggers along the day. sometimes, i don't even recognise myself. like i have a lot of ups and downs and it is a roller—coaster. i guess that if we continue to do

things, it will help us to feel like we stay active and we are doing something. if you don't do anything, you can stay in bed all day and cry and we don't want to do that. we are the writer of the story and the continuation of the story. it's going to be a good and strong one. we are not going to be down. seriously, it's really not obvious to be _ seriously, it's really not obvious to be here — seriously, it's really not obvious to be here and not obvious to speak to be here and not obvious to speak to other— to be here and not obvious to speak to other people about this story. i have _ to other people about this story. i have a _ to other people about this story. i have a lot — to other people about this story. i have a lot of friends, they don't speak— have a lot of friends, they don't speak about their story, don't want to speak— speak about their story, don't want to speak about nothing. they are locked _ to speak about nothing. they are locked in— to speak about nothing. they are locked in their room and don't do nothing — locked in their room and don't do nothing to — locked in their room and don't do nothing. to be in our position, to speak— nothing. to be in our position, to speak about _ nothing. to be in our position, to speak about it, yeah, we have the time _ speak about it, yeah, we have the time that— speak about it, yeah, we have the time that we are alone and we are with our— time that we are alone and we are with our friends but when we are here _ with our friends but when we are here with — with our friends but when we are here with people and we can speak

about— here with people and we can speak about it. _ here with people and we can speak about it. it— here with people and we can speak about it, it is not obvious at all. and _ about it, it is not obvious at all. and when— about it, it is not obvious at all. and when i_ about it, it is not obvious at all. and when i say that we will never process this until all of the hostages will come back home and the families will go back to their home in israel to live wherever they used to live and not to be in a hotel or some other place that they have a normal life. so hostages now, bring them back to israel. that normal life. so hostages now, bring them back to israel.— them back to israel. that is the first mission. _ them back to israel. that is the first mission. the _ them back to israel. that is the first mission. the first - them back to israel. that is the first mission. the first and - them back to israel. that is the | first mission. the first and most important _ first mission. the first and most important mission. _ first mission. the first and most important mission. to _ first mission. the first and most important mission. to share - first mission. the first and most. important mission. to share what first mission. the first and most - important mission. to share what we did, to share what happened and just to let you realise how big it is and how important. to let you realise how big it is and how important-— how important. almost one year, those hostages. _ how important. almost one year, those hostages. it— how important. almost one year, those hostages. it is— how important. almost one year, those hostages. it is crazy. - how important. almost one year, those hostages. it is crazy. i- how important. almost one year, those hostages. it is crazy. i am. those hostages. it is crazy. i am auoin to those hostages. it is crazy. i am going to thank— those hostages. it is crazy. i am going to thank you _ those hostages. it is crazy. i am going to thank you both - those hostages. it is crazy. i am going to thank you both so - those hostages. it is crazy. i am| going to thank you both so much those hostages. it is crazy. i am - going to thank you both so much that talking to our audience across the uk tonight. thank you. can i

talking to our audience across the uk tonight. thank you.— talking to our audience across the uk tonight. thank you. can i say one last thin ? uk tonight. thank you. can i say one last thing? of— uk tonight. thank you. can i say one last thing? of course. _ uk tonight. thank you. can i say one last thing? of course. i _ uk tonight. thank you. can i say one last thing? of course. i just - uk tonight. thank you. can i say one last thing? of course. i just want - last thing? of course. i 'ust want to sa , last thing? of course. i 'ust want to say. people h last thing? of course. i 'ust want to say, people around _ last thing? of course. i just want to say, people around the - last thing? of course. i just want to say, people around the worldl to say, people around the world don't~~ — to say, people around the world don't... understand a little bit but don't _ don't... understand a little bit but don't understand in the end, but imagine. — don't understand in the end, but imagine, seriously, imagine that you are in— imagine, seriously, imagine that you are in the _ imagine, seriously, imagine that you are in the party and you just want to dance, — are in the party and you just want to dance, just want to dance, that is all— to dance, just want to dance, that is all you — to dance, just want to dance, that is all you want to do. i am a dj, a producer, — is all you want to do. i am a dj, a producer, i— is all you want to do. i am a dj, a producer, i make music, this is my life and _ producer, i make music, this is my life and i_ producer, i make music, this is my life and i am — producer, i make music, this is my life and i am going to a lot, a lot ofthe— life and i am going to a lot, a lot of the parties. when you are inside the party, — of the parties. when you are inside the party, you are dancing with yourself, — the party, you are dancing with yourself, you feel the most blessed man on— yourself, you feel the most blessed man on earth and you don't have nothing — man on earth and you don't have nothing behind you. nothing to care about— nothing behind you. nothing to care about and _ nothing behind you. nothing to care about and you just want to dance, you feel— about and you just want to dance, you feel free. you are with your friends, — you feel free. you are with your friends, the _ you feel free. you are with your friends, the best friends, the best family— friends, the best friends, the best family and. — friends, the best friends, the best family and, like, in 180 degrees on the other— family and, like, in 180 degrees on the other side, just like this,

everybody... the other side, 'ust like this, everybody. . ._ the other side, 'ust like this, everybody... the other side, 'ust like this, eve bod . . ,, everybody... our life changed upside down. you started _ everybody... our life changed upside down. you started talk _ everybody... our life changed upside down. you started talk about - everybody... our life changed upside down. you started talk about the - down. you started talk about the hour of the sunrise and saw a smile. i don't know if you recognise right now, _ idon't know if you recognise right now. how— i don't know if you recognise right now, how our faces was. this moment was amazing — now, how our faces was. this moment was amazing. every party in the nature — was amazing. every party in the nature when the sun is rising, it's a beautiful— nature when the sun is rising, it's a beautiful moment. the best moment of the _ a beautiful moment. the best moment of the party _ a beautiful moment. the best moment of the party. i a beautiful moment. the best moment of the -a . , ., a beautiful moment. the best moment ofthe -a . , ., ., a beautiful moment. the best moment of the party-— of the party. i 'ust wanted to add a little of the party. i 'ust wanted to add a more thing. — of the party. ijust wanted to add a little thing. we _ of the party. ijust wanted to add a little thing. we are _ of the party. ijust wanted to add a little thing. we are doing - of the party. ijust wanted to add a little thing. we are doing things i little thing. we are doing things after this. little thing. we are doing things afterthis. david's little thing. we are doing things after this. david's friend and i actually started this charity called let's do something. so it is really big and it has a really huge and positive effect in israel and we help the soldiers and the family of the hostages and people like me that needs to get physiotherapy or psychological and we opened a house

in thailand called the circle and i will be more than happy if people can help us. will be more than happy if people can help us— can help us. thank you both very much, can help us. thank you both very much. thank _ can help us. thank you both very much, thank you. _ can help us. thank you both very much, thank you. thank - can help us. thank you both very much, thank you. thank you. - can help us. thank you both very i much, thank you. thank you. thank ou for much, thank you. thank you. thank you for telling _ much, thank you. thank you. thank you for telling us _ much, thank you. thank you. thank you for telling us about _ much, thank you. thank you. thank you for telling us about david. - bbc storyville's surviving october 7th: we will dance again will be available from tomorrow morning on iplayer, and will be broadcast on bbc two tomorrow night at 9pm. thank you. tonight, us presidentjoe biden has warned that �*all out war is possible' in the middle east as israel's army chief told his troops to be ready to enter lebanon. israel has launched strikes on lebanon for a third day, targeting hezbollah militants. hezbollah which sympathiese with hamas, is backed by iran and like hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the uk government. today, they fired a missile at tel aviv for the first time — which didn't get through. here's the israel army chief's message to his troops today. translation: we are not stopping.

we will keep attacking and harming them everywhere. to do this, we are preparing to move. the sense is, your military boots, your manoeuvre boots, will enter enemy territory. your entry there — with force — will show them what it's like to meet a professional combat force. the escalating conflict has seen more than 2,000 israeli strikes in the last few days. lebanon says more than 72 people have died today. hezbollah fired a ballistic missile towards tel aviv, now there's fear at the un of all out war. let's talk to professor lina khatib who's the director of the middle east institute at soas, university of london... welcome to you. it is a ground invasion inevitable, do you think? not at all. even the statement we heard was possible, not definite. possible entry.— heard was possible, not definite. possible entry. exactly. let's hope di-loma possible entry. exactly. let's hope diplomacy stops — possible entry. exactly. let's hope

diplomacy stops things _ possible entry. exactly. let's hope diplomacy stops things before - diplomacy stops things before anything escalates.— diplomacy stops things before anything escalates. what do you think israel's _ anything escalates. what do you think israel's goal— anything escalates. what do you think israel's goal is, _ anything escalates. what do you think israel's goal is, what - anything escalates. what do you think israel's goal is, what do i anything escalates. what do you | think israel's goal is, what do you think israel's goal is, what do you think their strategy is? the think israel's goal is, what do you think their strategy is?— think israel's goal is, what do you think their strategy is? the goal is stated as being _ think their strategy is? the goal is stated as being to _ think their strategy is? the goal is stated as being to restore - think their strategy is? the goal is stated as being to restore safety l think their strategy is? the goal is | stated as being to restore safety to northern israel, but that is not something that can be achieved very quickly, even a decisive military campaign is going to take some time and that's why i always hope that diplomacy eventually overtakes military action. but diplomacy eventually overtakes military action.— diplomacy eventually overtakes milita action. �* , military action. but if they do send troo -s in, military action. but if they do send troops in. what — military action. but if they do send troops in, what could _ military action. but if they do send troops in, what could that - military action. but if they do send troops in, what could that look - troops in, what could that look like? it troops in, what could that look like? ., , ., ., like? it would be quagmire. it would be the kind of— like? it would be quagmire. it would be the kind of asymmetrical- like? it would be quagmire. it would be the kind of asymmetrical warfare | be the kind of asymmetrical warfare that has blah is very good at. hezbollah fought israel for almost two decades when it occupied southern lebanon. so you can imagine, two decades of ground war going on and here we are, facing this prospect again and hezbollah has had decades of preparation. so what might they do and what might iran do, who back has below? i still

think the probability _ iran do, who back has below? i still think the probability of _ iran do, who back has below? i still think the probability of a _ iran do, who back has below? i sit ii think the probability of a ground invasion remains low because they are aware of the advantage has below would have in that scenario, whereas hezbollah does not have a tactical advantage when israel strikes by air or conduct security breaches like the ones we saw last week. iran is keeping out of this and it is because iran and hezbollah, actually, do not want the situation to become full—scale war. so what we're seeing is a war of attrition, both by israel and hezbollah, with israel definitely having the upper hand. in a way, i think militarily, it does not need a ground invasion to put a pressure on hezbollah. meanwhile, iran is watching all of this, hezbollah is its biggest asset in the region, it does not want hezbollah to be obliterated by israel and does not want itself to become a target either, and that is another reason why they are being very careful and limited even as

they escalate. very careful and limited even as they escalate-— very careful and limited even as they escalate. nick, big diplomatic meetinas they escalate. nick, big diplomatic meetings going — they escalate. nick, big diplomatic meetings going on _ they escalate. nick, big diplomatic meetings going on right _ they escalate. nick, big diplomatic meetings going on right now? - they escalate. nick, big diplomatic| meetings going on right now? that they escalate. nick, big diplomatic. meetings going on right now? that is riaht, in meetings going on right now? that is right. in the — meetings going on right now? that is right, in the next _ meetings going on right now? that is right, in the next few _ meetings going on right now? that is right, in the next few minutes - meetings going on right now? that is right, in the next few minutes there l right, in the next few minutes there is due _ right, in the next few minutes there is due to _ right, in the next few minutes there is due to be — right, in the next few minutes there is due to be an emergency meeting of the un _ is due to be an emergency meeting of the un security council in new york to avoid _ the un security council in new york to avoid exactly what lina has been talking _ to avoid exactly what lina has been talking about. this has been called at the _ talking about. this has been called at the request of france and reuters is reporting — at the request of france and reuters is reporting joe biden and emmanuel macron. _ is reporting joe biden and emmanuel macron, who are amongst a lot of world _ macron, who are amongst a lot of world leaders in new york for the meeting — world leaders in new york for the meeting of the un general assembly, the annual— meeting of the un general assembly, the annual meeting, that they are working _ the annual meeting, that they are working on— the annual meeting, that they are working on a peace plan. it is for a short-term — working on a peace plan. it is for a short—term ceasefire, the idea is to avert _ short—term ceasefire, the idea is to avert a _ short—term ceasefire, the idea is to avert a wider — short—term ceasefire, the idea is to avert a wider conflict and then revive — avert a wider conflict and then revive negotiations between israel and hamas over gaza. to give you an idea of— and hamas over gaza. to give you an idea of their— and hamas over gaza. to give you an idea of their thinking, emanuel macron— idea of their thinking, emanuel macron told the general assembly earlier— macron told the general assembly earlier today, macron told the general assembly earliertoday, israel macron told the general assembly earlier today, israel cannot extend the war— earlier today, israel cannot extend the war into lebanon without facing consequences. we need an immediate end to _ consequences. we need an immediate end to the _ consequences. we need an immediate end to the hostage abilities. joe biden— end to the hostage abilities. joe biden talking to abc talked about his fear— biden talking to abc talked about his fear of an all—out war being possible — his fear of an all—out war being possible but he is aiming for a fundamental settlement. the only

country that _ fundamental settlement. the only country that has _ fundamental settlement. the only country that has leveraged - fundamental settlement. the only country that has leveraged over i country that has leveraged over israel is the us. benjamin netanyahu has pretty much ignored everything joe biden has said for almost a year? joe biden has said for almost a ear? . joe biden has said for almost a ear? , g ., �* joe biden has said for almost a ear? , . ., �* ., joe biden has said for almost a ear? , �* ., �* ., year? yes, joe biden and ben'amin netan ahu year? yes, joe biden and ben'amin netanyahu have i year? yes, joe biden and ben'amin netanyahu have a i year? yes, joe biden and ben'amin netanyahu have a famously h year? yes, joe biden and benjamin| netanyahu have a famously difficult relationship. there is a lot of thinking _ relationship. there is a lot of thinking that the israeli prime minister— thinking that the israeli prime minister is waiting until november and hoping for what he would regard as a more _ and hoping for what he would regard as a more friendly trump presidency. joe biden— as a more friendly trump presidency. joe biden has been critical. if you remember. — joe biden has been critical. if you remember, he famously said after the october— remember, he famously said after the october the _ remember, he famously said after the october the 7th atrocity, he said, don't _ october the 7th atrocity, he said, don't make — october the 7th atrocity, he said, don't make the mistake that we made over 9-ii _ don't make the mistake that we made over 9-ii of— don't make the mistake that we made over 9—11 of overreacting. but there has been _ over 9—11 of overreacting. but there has been $12.5 billion in us military— has been $12.5 billion in us military aid to israel since then. we were — military aid to israel since then. we were seeing pictures of the un security council meeting. we are going to talk to dan harper, a brit in lebanon. keir starmer has told uk nationals to leave lebanon. we've been searching for flights online out of lebanon

and we couldn't find any. i understand you want to get out but you can't, is that right? that i understand you want to get out but you can't, is that right?— you can't, is that right? that is rieht. you can't, is that right? that is right- over— you can't, is that right? that is right. over the _ you can't, is that right? that is right. over the last _ you can't, is that right? that is right. over the last few - you can't, is that right? that is right. over the last few days, i you can't, is that right? that is. right. over the last few days, as the situation got worse, people scrambled for flights. those tickets that were available soon got gobbled up that were available soon got gobbled up and now it is very, very difficult to find even a handful of seats on different flights and we have a family of four, so it is almost impossible for us to get a flight now. 50 almost impossible for us to get a flieht now. ., ., almost impossible for us to get a flight now-— almost impossible for us to get a flieht now. . ., y., ., almost impossible for us to get a flieht now. . ., , ., ., ., flight now. so what are you going to do, dan? flight now. so what are you going to do. dan? i — flight now. so what are you going to do, dan? iwant— flight now. so what are you going to do, dan? i want to _ flight now. so what are you going to do, dan? i want to urge _ flight now. so what are you going to do, dan? i want to urge the - flight now. so what are you going to do, dan? i want to urge the uk - do, dan? i want to urge the uk government— do, dan? i want to urge the uk government to _ do, dan? i want to urge the uk government to put _ do, dan? i want to urge the uk government to put on - do, dan? i want to urge the uk government to put on some i do, dan? i want to urge the uk - government to put on some flights for us. they talked about 700 troops in cyprus and see options but i still think with the airport open, it would be pretty easy for them to charter a flight or get an raf flight he had to take out the british people living in lebanon that need to get out. that british people living in lebanon that need to get out.— that need to get out. that is interesting _ that need to get out. that is interesting that _ that need to get out. that is interesting that you - that need to get out. that is interesting that you are - that need to get out. that is - interesting that you are essentially asking for that because when keir starmer said last night, uk nationals need to get out of

lebanon, that was on the assumption that there