tv Sportsday BBC News September 28, 2024 6:30pm-7:01pm BST
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all-out war, is there a the all—out war, is there a diplomatic solution of the most effective way to really bring about and to return israeli citizens to their home in their hundreds of thousands of lebanese to their home? my theory is that neither side will have security in the next few months and years. thank you for speaking _ few months and years. thank you for speaking to — few months and years. thank you for speaking to us _ few months and years. thank you for speaking to us today. - (pres)let�*s return to anna foster in beirut — how are you viewing things in this moment? i how are you viewing things in this moment?— how are you viewing things in this moment? i don't think it's inevitable _ this moment? i don't think it's inevitable the _ this moment? i don't think it's inevitable the there _ this moment? i don't think it's inevitable the there will - this moment? i don't think it's inevitable the there will be - this moment? i don't think it's inevitable the there will be a l inevitable the there will be a huge regional work, it's not in anybody�*s interest that i can think of, so it really hinges on three questions. what will hezbollah do next, what with iran and its proxies do next? and what will israel do next? those are the three big things, he kind of touched on them there. so in the case of hezbollah, they are reeling, they are hurt, they are
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bleeding, they are command structure has been decapitated, communications have been set was sabotage, weapons domes have been blown up. they've really got a big arsenal below ground, which includes these long—range missiles. there will be some of the ranks who are being for blood, being for revenge, there's a video that's on social media it's been verified that appears to show the son of hassan nasrallah screaming for revenge. apoplectic glee angry, and there will be many of those fighters in those pager attacks who will want revenge. do they unleash this long—range missile arsenal and try to overwhelm israel's defences in cities like tel aviv? they could do that but the response from israel would be catastrophic to lebanon. israel has the united states at his back helping it,
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to protect for any further retaliation. then when it comes to around, they've hidden away their leader, ali ayatollah khamenei in case he too gets assassinated, hezbollah was its pet project since the early 19805, it's pet project since the early 1980s, it's the torchbearer for the islamic revolution in the arab world, it's the leader of the so—called axis of resistance. iran has other ways to respond indirectly, the houthis in yemen, the militias in syria or iraq, or as the professor says, sending a load of fighters to replant hezbollah ranks. they're not interested in the cease—fire, not now, they are on a roll, israel. they think they have hezbollah on the back foot, on the roads, they are going to carry this on, it's hard to see how they will finish this without either capitulation by hezbollah, that's not going to happen. orthey're hezbollah, that's not going to happen. or they're going to have to go in on the ground which is what they did in 2006,
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they will find those tunnels, deal with the weapons, blow them up and it's going to be a bloodied and farfrom them up and it's going to be a bloodied and far from easy fight. hezbollah are one of the last thing hassan nasrallah said, my final thing, last thing hassan nasrallah said, my finalthing, one last thing hassan nasrallah said, my final thing, one of said, my finalthing, one of the said, my final thing, one of the last things he said before his death was if you come into south lebanon to attack us, we view that as a historic opportunity. i view that as a historic opportunity-— view that as a historic opportunity. view that as a historic o- ortuni . .,, ., ., view that as a historic ouortuni . ., ., ., opportunity. i was going to ask ou opportunity. i was going to ask you about. _ opportunity. i was going to ask you about. as— opportunity. i was going to ask you about, as far _ opportunity. i was going to ask you about, as far as _ opportunity. i was going to ask you about, as far as enemies l you about, as far as enemies 90, you about, as far as enemies go, the difference between thomas who israel has been fighting intensely since last october, and hezbollah, is this an altogether different force? it is a very different force because although... are similarities, they both hate israel and they are trained and supplied by iran, but hamas is tiny in comparison. they may have had a similar number of fighters to begin with but there arsenal was 1.0 compared to the sophistication that
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hezbollah has got. part of this is due to geography, because gazais is due to geography, because gaza is built largely on sand, it's a very sandy, desert environment. whereas south lebanon is hard limestone rock and those caves and tunnels, there is a labyrinth of them dug deep into southern lebanon it is going to take a long time to find all of those, they are booby—trapped, all sorts of ambush opportunities for hezbollah. in 20061 ambush opportunities for hezbollah. in 2006 i was part of the bbc team that covered that book war between israel and hezbollah. i remember they clearly, the head of the israeli air force saying we've got this, we can do this from the air, no need for a ground incursion. they found they couldn't. they had to send in the army. and when they sent these macabre attacks, supposedly the best protected tanks in the world, they absolutely got a bloodied nose from hezbollah. hazlitt word back when it, —— hezbollah
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didn't win it, neither side did. they knew which way to infiltrate, do the ambush roots, and guided weapons, some of them russian coronets, some of them russian coronets, some of them russian coronets, some of them supplied by iran, they train for this intensively. they are not going to be a pushover think it went on land. anyway this is a case of who breaks first? the israelis are crowing at what they see as the success they've eliminated a very dangerous enemy to their country but this next phase is not going to be easy for them. you mention 2006, that war was a month or so? you mention 2006, that war was a month orso? a you mention 2006, that war was a month or so? a matter of weeks. israel has been preparing since the end of that for a day like this, that they've been gathering their... against hezbollah? yes. this at some point was going to happen. that war ended inconclusively and both sides knew. i'm nicole
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jeremy bowen sang at the time, he and i were covering it at the moment, i remember him saying that this is unfinished business and indeed it was. i remember him saying at some stage, both sides know they are going to have to go back into the ring together, or words to that effect. what he did and with is a un resolution, never 1701 which stipulated that hezbollah was supposed to withdraw its fires north of the river, which is about 30 km north of the border, i didn't do that. it's fighters stayed in south lebanon, built up in arsenal, they had a sophisticated smuggling route which has come from iran, and on october eight, the day after the massacre and southern israel, theyjoined in and in support of their brethren as they put it in gaza. they started putting not huge amounts but enough to annoy the israelis and there is no been a lot of domestic political pressure on the israeli government by those displaced
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2000 plus residents saying how long does this go on for, how much longer do you expect us to live on people �*s sofas and their floors while our own part of the world is uninhabitable because of these? one of the things that people in the region are saying is, the problem here is benjamin netanyahu. it all comes down to him because he will not sign a cease—fire agreement in gaza. if i could only be agreed and tied to, yahya sinwar as well. an extremely violent man. until those two leaders agreed to a cease—fire in gaza, the temperature is going to stay high this next phase i think is really quite dangerous. for the middle east. — really quite dangerous. for the middle east. frank, _ really quite dangerous. for the middle east. frank, we - really quite dangerous. for the middle east. frank, we will. middle east. frank, we will leave it there and i know you are contributing lots to our live page which is up and running and thank you for taking time out to talk to us. let's return to anna foster in beirut —
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and from what the idf colonel was just saying earlier, no sense at all that israel is considering easing back on its actions. no, andi no, and i think what you've had in the last half hour or so is a lot of really interesting reaction, a lot of excellent analysis, so what i thought i would give you again for now is just a sense of what it feels like to be here in beirut tonight and what it felt like tonight and what it felt like to be here throughout the course of the day because of course, this time yesterday, we still had the confusion and the fear and people really trying to work out what it happened after that very large air that we felt and we heard and we saw the plume of smoke, just a few kilometres away we saw people fleeing from those areas in the southern suburbs of beirut and we've seen them again when i got late this morning and people in martyr�*s' court behind me to families with
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bags, with children finding somewhere to shelter along the sea front area here along the mediterranean, some of these people again through the day today have just been out on the streets. when they heard the news of the death of hassan nasrallah, again we saw pictures of people incredibly emotional at what it happened because of course that hezbollah supporters here and as frank was describing to me was very much seen as a hero, as a totemic figure of hezbollah, but of course in other parts of the middle east region certainly in israel, syria as well, and indeed by people here in lebanon, let's be clear. he was very much a person who brought terror and destruction to thousands of lives. what people here are now really concerned and fearful about is what will happen next because as we've been reflecting, there are so many different scenarios, and so many different groups, organisations, countries, people who are now trying to decide what they want to do next. if they want to send a
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response, if they want to escalate, if they want to talk about things. and one thing that has been particularly notable here over last week or so now is that every morning people wake up without a sense of what the date will bring. and i think for a lot of people here, that fear and confusion and uncertainty has been incredibly destabilising and certainly anybody who you'll speak to notjust in beirut but across lebanon, will tell you that they remember 2006, they remember the civil war and they hope that some kind of solution could be found to try and ease the tensions in what is an incredibly, a maelstrom frankly of a region right now.— of a region right now. anna, thank you — of a region right now. anna, thank you very _ of a region right now. anna, thank you very much. - anna a n na foster anna foster reporting hour after hour from beirut. anna foster reporting hour after hourfrom beirut. we anna foster reporting hour after hour from beirut. we will be back with anna over the course of the next few hours and days i'm sure.
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let's speak to yaakov katz — senior fellow at the jewish people policy institute and a columnist for the jerusalem post. thank you forjoining us from jerusalem, i'm wondering what your reaction is to the killing of hassan nasrallah and where you think this takes us? i think he definitely deserved to have been killed many times over, he was a man who wreaks chaos and havoc and of course terror and murder all throughout the middle east and around the world, his will is one of the most dangerous terrorist organisations. —— hezbollah. this was all to the credit of hassan nasrallah and the alliance he established with the iranians in syria, he built up a formidable military terror army essentially in lebanon that he was able to use to leverage and to project terror all throughout the middle east and to many other corners of this globe, so him
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being gone is a good thing, but the question like you said, is what happens next and what is hezbollah's retaliation and reaction is going to be, what are the is rainy —— of the iranians respond, will they directly attack israel like they did back in april and what does this mean for this country, where i live, and israel, which has been october 7, let's not forget come around the corner, just over a week away. it is a year of war for the israeli people and the israeli people also to some extent, while i'm sure every is really, i don't want to say celebrating but is definitely happy that hassan nasrallah is gone today, they also want a respite. they want to break from this long year of war and pain and that is not yet there. you mention all the uncertainties about this moment has brought us to, waiting to see what hezbollah does next, waiting to see what else
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happens in the region, does iran get further involved, with all that still up in the air, do israelis feel any safer? i think definitely today is a day you can feel safer. if someone had told mejust you can feel safer. if someone had told me just a few months ago that in the span of ten days israel would carry out this purported major attack and destroy hezbollah's communication system and at the same time pop simultaneously injured thousands of top, mid—level his brother fighters, —— hezbollah fighters. i would not talk to you... in a bomb shelter. they were afraid of hezbollah were to attack israel they would take out our power stations and we would have more no electricity. something
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interesting is happening here, it may be that hezbollah has sustained blows they never thought was possible, right now it's in a state of paralysis. i don't want to underestimate the threat they pose to israel still, they have tens of thousands of rockets and fighters that are still there, they can definitely still cause sustained and devastating damage to the state of israel if they decide to unleash all of that firepower. but, israel does not stand alone and israel is not weak, israel does also have capabilities. you've seen over the last ten days of increased israeli retaliation to hezbollah's year—long attacks against our cities where we had to evacuate 60,000 of our people in the north, altogether including nasrallah's does demise, showing hezbollah and the raining, and i would argue hamas in gaza which has refused
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to renew in negotiations for the hostages who they still hold onto, it makes israel appear stronger, safer and it also leads our enemies to be weaker. i also leads our enemies to be weaker. ., ., ., , ., also leads our enemies to be weaker. ., ., ., ., weaker. i want to ask you about something _ weaker. i want to ask you about something come _ weaker. i want to ask you about something come been - weaker. i want to ask you about something come been watching | something come been watching saturday night after saturday night seeing huge protests by israelis in tel aviv, and i wondered is it any different on the saturday evening?- the saturday evening? well, karen, they're _ the saturday evening? well, karen, they're still- the saturday evening? well, karen, they're still out - the saturday evening? well, | karen, they're still out there, the families and relatives of the families and relatives of the 101 hostages who we cannot forget, they are still protesting outside on the kaplan road in tel aviv, near the defence ministry and intelligence headquarters, it's a little to smaller today and tonight because naturally people are a little concerned also, we had a couple of rockets just in the last 2a hours, long range ballistic missiles provided by iran to the houthis in yemen, there were also fired in the tel aviv area, we had sirens throughout the day there, people are also
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concerned of that and who knows what hezbollah might do, but this has to remain an issue for israel and i think this is something that we need to be vigilant about, as israel continues to engage in combat with hezbollah and the north, we can't forget what this whole war has been about for the past year is hamas word back in gaza, the murder of 1200 people in that dark day of october 7 and the taking ncc at 250 people as hostages, 101 still remain in gaza, estimates and israel are that at least half of them are alive and we have responsibility as a country to bring them home and we can't forget that. and that's why while we still have to degrade and eliminate hezbollah as much is possible we can't forget we have people in gaza who we have a responsibility to bring them back. . ~ a responsibility to bring them back. ., ~ , ., ., a responsibility to bring them back. ., ~ ., ., ~ back. thank you for talking me from jerusalem. _ back. thank you for talking me
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from jerusalem. columnist - back. thank you for talking me from jerusalem. columnist for| from jerusalem. columnist for thejerusalem from jerusalem. columnist for the jerusalem post. while events in the middle east are dominating headlines today, the united nations general assembly is continuing in new york. russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov has just been speaking — he had this to say about the israeli attack which killed the hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah — and what he said was american involvement. translation: another glaring exam - le translation: another glaring example of— translation: another glaring example of terrorist _ translation: another glaring example of terrorist methods | translation: another glaring | example of terrorist methods as a means of achieving political aims, is the inhumane attack on lebanon that transformed civilian technology into a lethal weapon. there must be an immediate investigation into this crime but already we cannot remain silent in the face of the many publications in the media including in europe and here in the united states that indicate to varying degrees the involvement and at the very least awareness of washington when it comes to the preparation of that terrorist
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attack. a couple of diplomatic lines coming out in the last few minutes, kamala harris, the democratic presidential candidate and vice president of the united states has said that diplomacy remains the best path forward to protect civilians and achieve lasting stability in the region, only a couple of days ago the talk was all about a potential 21 day cease—fire but the events of the last 2a hours have changed that completely. nevertheless, the us administration, biden administration, kamala harris vice president also running for office as the democratic presidential candidate says that diplomacy remains the best path forward, francis also been speaking in france has said in the last few minutes that hezbollah and iran must restrain from any action that could destabilise the region further, sojust could destabilise the region further, so just one line from france and of course as we mentioned there, her gay lover off, the russian foreign minister, lots of senior ——
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sergei lavrov. ehud olmert is the former israeli prime minister. he spoke to anna foster — and he described the current israeli operation as a success. i don't think the we need to grow our operation in lebanon, hezbollah suffered a major blow, notjust yesterday but all throughout last week's and if they will continue fighting, they will leave us with no option but to continue bombing and destroying their bases and ground positions and the rockets and the launches and many people will be suffering from it, regrettably. this is not our purpose, this is not our desire. so they certainly have a good reason to want to stop it. and we don't have any
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interest in a ground operation inside lebanon because what we want to do is to provide the security for our residents so that they will come back home. which i think is something that the americans and the french are now trying to accomplish. they are trying to negotiate between us and the lebanese government. i hope that they will be successful, i hope that hezbollah will not be seduced by their emotions to try and retaliate because any further military confrontation will be... if military confrontation will be. . . . , military confrontation will be... ., . ., �* military confrontation will be... �* be... if i may come i'm so sorry to — be... if i may come i'm so sorry to interrupt, - be... if i may come i'm so sorry to interrupt, i'm - be... if i may come i'm so sorry to interrupt, i'm on | sorry to interrupt, i'm on a bit of a delay here, but i do just want... is important when we talk about that cease—fire you were suggesting there, mr netanyahu is not in any way warmly welcomed the suggestion of a cease—fire, he stood at the un yesterday, he addressed the un yesterday, he addressed the un yesterday, he addressed the un general assembly, he talked about peace. he said
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that israel wants peace and peaceis that israel wants peace and peace is something i know you did pursue yourself after the 2006 war but he said israel once peace, then about 90 minutes later at lunch this year �*s strike in the southern way back to israel on the air by the strike e will way back to israel on the air by the strike e the southern year �*s strike in the southern suburbs of beirut on suburbs of beirut on residential buildings, on residential buildings, on civilian buildings that will civilian buildings that will have been children who were have been children who were killed there, that is not the killed there, that is not the pursuit of peace, is it because pursuit of peace, is it because my key saying one thing and my key saying one thing and doing another.— doing another.— doing another. ignoring the facts completely _ doing another. ignoring the facts completely _ doing another. ignoring the facts completely the - doing another. ignoring the facts completely the facts l doing another. ignoring the | doing another. ignoring the facts completely the - doing another. ignoring the facts completely the facts l doing another. ignoring the | facts completely the facts of ground, they were shooting facts completely the facts of ground, they were shooting rockets may be 150 rockets rockets may be 150 rockets across the north part of the across the north part of the state of israel in continuation state of israel in continuation is what they were doing for a is what they were doing for a year—long now operation against year—long now operation against us. so the question is not us. so the question is not whether we should argue about whether we should argue about the precise effects that took the precise effects that took place yesterday and also i hope place yesterday and also i hope that netanyahu is now on his that netanyahu is now on his way back to israel on the air way back to israel on the air
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the leader of hezbollah? do you consider civilian deaths acceptable collateral damage? the civilians weren't targeted, i'm sorry. and you know i'm not supportive of the israel the government... please, be patient. we were taking the basis of hezbollah. all of it is the basis of hezbollah, this is the basis of hezbollah, this is where they were shooting their rockets, this is where they were attacking a part of they were attacking a part of the state of israel, the north part of the state of israel you will see cities that are completely destroyed coming from the south of beirut and there was no other way to stop but by attacking that which is the bases wherefrom they are making all these attacks against israeli civilians for such a long time and i
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absolutely without any cynicism, i regret every single citizen who is not involved that became a victim of this unavoidable and inevitable counteroffensive that israel had to take in order to stop the fighting of hamas. are we going to make an effort in order to prevent it, i'm sorry, yesterday, are we going to make an effort to stop it for tomorrow? what i say is this, stop it, stop fighting, stop shooting rockets against israelis. that was the former is really a minister speaking to an earlier. let'sjust minister speaking to an earlier. let's just show you the live shots, it is actually the live shots, it is actually the lebanese capital beirut, the lebanese capital beirut, the sky above that. we can see as it approaches 9pm there is so much about the day �*s events, today and last night's
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events, today and last night's events, all of the latest announcements on our live page, what this means, the death of the leader of hezbollah, hassan nasrallah, means for what is going on in the middle east and what may happen in the forthcoming days and weeks. that significant news which emerged through the course of today as israel and then hezbollah itself confirmed the death of its leaders since 1992 coming and all the impacts and the assessment of what may happen on that live page. hello there. we're seeing a very much needed drier, sunnier spell of weather across the country this weekend. although it's not going to be the same as we move through sunday. today, by far the best of the drier and brighter weather. sunday it starts dry, but then we'll see wet and windy weather pushing into southern and western areas later on, as a new area of low pressure moves in. so this is the rainfall accumulations as we move through sunday into tuesday. looks like england
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and wales again bearing the brunt of the rainfall, which is bad news here. ground is saturated and that's going to exacerbate already existing flooding issues. this area of high pressure, though, is what's brought us the fine and largely dry weather through today. and it's going to continue. probably the best of the sunshine later in the day will be towards the midlands, southern and eastern england. elsewhere, a bit more cloud further north and west with a few showers. most of the rain for northern scotland and it is a chilly day after that cold start — 11 to 111—15 degrees. as we head through tonight, it stays dry for most. most of the showers fizzle out and we'll see clear spells, and when we have the clear skies, central, northern and eastern parts with light winds, it's going to turn quite chilly once again, with a bit of mist and fog developing, but temperatures slowly recovering out west. that's because we've got this new area of low pressure working its way in to bring increasing breeze from the south. our area of high pressure, short—lived and starts to ebb away into the near continent. it does mean sunday starts off fine. there will be some early sunshine around, but it will fade. probably the best of
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the sunshine through the day for the northern half of scotland, where it will be warmest. turning cloudier, windier and wetter the further south and west that you are, as this area of low pressure moves in. we've got a couple of yellow warnings in force for rain and for wind here. temperature—wise, mid—teens again in the south, low to mid—teens further north. sunday night we see the wind and the rain increasing across england and wales, certainly towards the south and the west. some of that rain could be heavy and, like i mentioned, could exacerbate flooding issues. as that area of low pressure crosses the country into monday, it will become very slow moving. there is a bit of a question mark to the north and south extent of the rain. at the moment it looks like it's east anglia, the north midlands, northern england up into southern scotland, which could see some of the heaviest rainfall. again, that could cause issues across england and wales. sunshine and showers to the south, could be quite mild, 17—18 degrees here. the rain eventually clears away gradually on tuesday, and then wednesday onwards, high pressure builds in so it should turn fine and settled.
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few months and years. thank you for speaking to us today. - live from london this is bbc news. i'm karin giannone. welcome to the programme. our top story — the confirmation from hezbollah that its leader — hassan nasrallah — has been killed in beirut — in another major escalation of the conflict between the militant group and israel. israel's military said it had destroyed hezbollah's underground headquarters in the lebanese capital. lebanon and iran have condemned the attack —
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and announced periods of official mourning. in the us, president biden has given his diplomatic backing — saying america fully backed israel's right to self—defence. through the day, in beirut, there have been more air strikes. my colleague anna foster is there, following the latest developments. there has been a lot of reaction, as you would expect, in the last few hours since we got come in the early afternoon in lebanon, the confirmation from hezbollah itself that hassan nasrallah had been killed in what was a huge air strike last night here in the lebanese capital. we saw and heard the plume of smoke, we heard the repeated loud blast echoing across all the buildings you can see around me. we needed to wait over 12 hours for the confirmation. it was more a matter of waiting for hezbollah itself to make the confirmation before it became a 100%
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