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is going to keep change. , he is going to keep £32,000 worth of suits paid for by lord alli, glasses and money that went to the dresses worn by lady starmer, is it hypocrisy? is he the guy sorting this out? martin and edinburgh, interesting thing, just before you joined us, if you are watching on the telly. what was that, martin? thanks. in britain, _ what was that, martin? thanks. in britain, we _ what was that, martin? thanks. in britain, we have _ what was that, martin? thanks. in britain, we have a _ in britain, we have a rule—based system, rule of law, that means we expect our politicians to follow the rules set to
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then anti—we expect someone who is prime minister and a former director of public prosecutions, which obviously is a role involving complete integrity, to be someone who is an exemplar of those rules. this is not a party political point on conservative politicians also have been guilty of breaching rules, stretching the rules beyond accepted boundaries in relation to gifts. it is all parties. you have a chance to have your say, get in touch with this. a lot of people acknowledging the whole thing has been an own goal. george and plymouth, joy in south london, joy, what is your reaction? is the case closed?— your reaction? is the case closed? ., ., , ., closed? good morning. can you hear me? _ closed? good morning. can you hear me? yes, _ closed? good morning. can you hear me? yes, we _ closed? good morning. can you hear me? yes, we can, - closed? good morning. can you hear me? yes, we can, fire - hear me? yes, we can, fire awa . hear me? yes, we can, fire away- for— hear me? yes, we can, fire away- for me _
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hear me? yes, we can, fire away. for me personally, l hear me? yes, we can, fire away. for me personally, i| hear me? yes, we can, fire - away. for me personally, i have never been _ away. for me personally, i have never been so _ away. for me personally, i have never been so disgusted - away. for me personally, i have never been so disgusted with i never been so disgusted with laboun — never been so disgusted with labour. what annoys me even more, — labour. what annoys me even more. i— labour. what annoys me even more, i have been in the labour party— more, i have been in the labour party all— more, i have been in the labour party all of— more, i have been in the labour party all of my life, angela rayner. _ party all of my life, angela rayner, who i prefer as labour leader. — rayner, who i prefer as labour leader, the notion we have not broken — leader, the notion we have not broken any rules, we hear the same — broken any rules, we hear the same coming from labour supporters, you have not broken any rules, — supporters, you have not broken any rules, it _ supporters, you have not broken any rules, it is not the point. what — any rules, it is not the point. what you _ any rules, it is not the point. what you have done is disgusting and obnoxious. why is it disgusting _ disgusting and obnoxious. tang is it disgusting and disgusting and obnoxious. “tie"uy is it disgusting and obnoxious? go ahead, please. you is it disgusting and obnoxious? go ahead, please.— is it disgusting and obnoxious? go ahead, please. you go ahead. labour is supposed _ go ahead, please. you go ahead. labour is supposed to _ go ahead, please. you go ahead. labour is supposed to represent. labour is supposed to represent people — labour is supposed to represent people on— labour is supposed to represent people on the lower income range _ people on the lower income range. socialthis, social range. social this, social this _ range. social this, social this yes. _ range. socialthis, social this. yes, wonderful policies,
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however. _ this. yes, wonderful policies, however, he was supposed to represent this group of people but yet — represent this group of people but yet you are on high income range, — but yet you are on high income range, you _ but yet you are on high income range, you still managed to do something like this, and you cannot— something like this, and you cannot see it for what it is, you — cannot see it for what it is, you are _ cannot see it for what it is, you are making excuses again and again _ you are making excuses again and again. a lot of people have portrayed — and again. a lot of people have portrayed keir starmer as like boris — portrayed keir starmer as like borisjohnson, i nevertrusted him, _ borisjohnson, i nevertrusted him, through the nomination process, _ him, through the nomination process, he said whatever he needed — process, he said whatever he needed to get to the next stage _ needed to get to the next stage. something about him that has always been uncomfortable and he — has always been uncomfortable and he is — has always been uncomfortable and he is doing it again. gk, and he is doing it again. 0k, listen, and he is doing it again. 0k, listen. i _ and he is doing it again. 0k, listen, iwill_ and he is doing it again. 0k, listen, i will move _ and he is doing it again. 0k, listen, i will move on, - and he is doing it again. ok listen, i will move on, you have had your say, very strong. gillian in luton, you can have yours as well, 32,000 on suits, a lot of suits, two grand suit, 16 a lot of suits, two grand suit, i6 suits, what do you make of it? i 16 suits, what do you make of it? . ., ., it? i will change the view on this. i have _ it? i will change the view on this. i have three _ it? i will change the view on this. i have three points - it? i will change the view on
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this. i have three points i i this. i have three points i would like to make none of which quite answer that. firstly, there is a culture in westminster which has become extremely entrenched of entitlement and i do notjust mean expenses, i mean earnings because there are plenty of mps because there are plenty of mp5 on all sides of the commons and the house of lords who do very nicely out of the opportunities they have as high—profile figures in the media and elsewhere, including consultancy. secondly, ithink this government is very surprisingly naive and has made extremely stupid and forced errors. thirdly, because of when the election was decided which was not a decision made by the labour party, injuly, which was unusual, we have what i would say is a vacuum. nature abhors a vacuum. when there were no parliamentary discussions, no legislation to
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scrutinise, there was something missing in the conversation and the conversation looks for things that perhaps they would not have troubled themselves with before. and they should. i with before. and they should. i salute your eloquence, thank you. as many voices as possible, we need to know what the great british public, and they are great, the ones who watch and listen to this, what they think. plymouth, a man with a point, george? thanks for having _ with a point, george? thanks for having me _ with a point, george? thanks for having me on. _ with a point, george? thanks for having me on. there - with a point, george? thanks for having me on. there wasl with a point, george? thanks| for having me on. there was a time, — for having me on. there was a time, i— for having me on. there was a time, i used _ for having me on. there was a time, i used to work with a guy whose — time, i used to work with a guy whose ambition was to be a policeman. he was a barman where — policeman. he was a barman where i— policeman. he was a barman where i worked at the time, going — where i worked at the time, going back about 30 years. about _ going back about 30 years. about ten years ago, he had become _ about ten years ago, he had become a _ about ten years ago, he had become a policeman, he brought home _ become a policeman, he brought home nty— become a policeman, he brought home my teenage stepson at the time who— home my teenage stepson at the time who got drunk. he had not done _ time who got drunk. he had not done anything wrong, he was 'ust done anything wrong, he was just escorted home by the police _ just escorted home by the police i_ just escorted home by the police. i recognised the policeman and i am like, hide,
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how— policeman and i am like, hide, howare— policeman and i am like, hide, how are you? very well. i offered _ how are you? very well. i offered him a cup of tea —— hi. he had— offered him a cup of tea —— hi. he had to— offered him a cup of tea —— hi. he had to turn down the cup of tea in— he had to turn down the cup of tea in case _ he had to turn down the cup of tea in case it was seen as a bribe _ tea in case it was seen as a bribe. ., ., ., bribe. come on. i find that difficult to _ bribe. come on. i find that difficult to believe. - bribe. come on. i find that difficult to believe. it - bribe. come on. i find that difficult to believe. it is i difficult to believe. it is true. when _ difficult to believe. it is true. when can - difficult to believe. it is true. when can a - difficult to believe. it is true. when can a gift i difficult to believe. it is| true. when can a gift be difficult to believe. it is true. when can a gift be seen asa— true. when can a gift be seen asa bribe? _ true. when can a gift be seen as a bribe? when is a bribe a gift? — as a bribe? when is a bribe a gift? it— as a bribe? when is a bribe a gift? itjust seems to me people _ gift? itjust seems to me people in power can apply the rules— people in power can apply the rules whenever they want, when they choose to apply the rules. 0k, they choose to apply the rules. ok. this — they choose to apply the rules. ok. this is _ they choose to apply the rules. ok, this is what a lot of people are saying, it stinks, people are saying, it stinks, people are saying it stinks. l people are saying it stinks. i used to work in restaurants in the 70s — used to work in restaurants in the 70s and 80s, policeman in the 70s and 80s, policeman in the early— the 70s and 80s, policeman in the early 70s would come along 'ust the early 70s would come along just to — the early 70s would come along just to see if you are having a quiet — just to see if you are having a quiet night, make sure there was — quiet night, make sure there was nothing untoward going on
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and we — was nothing untoward going on and we got to know them personally. we made them a cup of tea _ personally. we made them a cup of tea or— personally. we made them a cup of tea or a — personally. we made them a cup of tea or a sandwich on a cold night — of tea or a sandwich on a cold night. they would enjoy it. and then— night. they would enjoy it. and then came _ night. they would enjoy it. and then came the time they said, we are — then came the time they said, we are not— then came the time they said, we are not allowed to accept those — we are not allowed to accept those any more in case they are seen _ those any more in case they are seen as— those any more in case they are seen as gifts. those any more in case they are seen as gifts— seen as gifts. very interesting. - seen as gifts. very interesting. you. | seen as gifts. very - interesting. you. neil, seen as gifts. very _ interesting. you. neil, lindsay north london, george... lindsay first, then neil can respond. what do you make of this? while i do not what do you make of this? while i do not agree — what do you make of this? while i do not agree with _ what do you make of this? while i do not agree with the _ what do you make of this? while i do not agree with the free - i do not agree with the free clothes and everything, the point about the arsenal tickets, not all the other stuff, my husband used to sit in front of keir starmer in chelsea... up in the gods, a few rows from the back. he had to walk through everybody to get up there. even leader of the labour party. 0nly get up there. even leader of the labour party. only recently he got the box. if he was to go back to his old seat, i will let you know, he is to get
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boos... i let you know, he is to get boos - -— let you know, he is to get boos... ~ ., ., , . boos... i know that experience very well- _ boos... i know that experience very well. imagine _ boos. .. i know that experience very well. imagine how- boos... i know that experience very well. imagine how much l boos... i know that experience | very well. imagine how much it would cost _ very well. imagine how much it would cost to _ very well. imagine how much it would cost to police _ very well. imagine how much it would cost to police that. - very well. imagine how much it would cost to police that. if - would cost to police that. if arsenal want to put him in a safe place in the box, not costing us the taxpayer money on security, i am all for that. everything else is a bit dodgy. the one thing... he likes his football, why should he not do that? ~ , ., he football, why should he not do that?_ he is - football, why should he not do that?_ he isjust l that? with his lad. he is 'ust a normarfi that? with his lad. he is 'ust a normal bloke, i that? with his lad. he is 'ust a normal bloke, really. h that? with his lad. he isjust a normal bloke, really. all. that? with his lad. he is just| a normal bloke, really. all of the other stuff... do they get a clothing allowance? the other stuff. .. do they get a clothing allowance?- the other stuff... do they get a clothing allowance? they must do. i a clothing allowance? they must d0- i don't _ a clothing allowance? they must do. i don't think _ a clothing allowance? they must do. i don't think so. _ a clothing allowance? they must do. i don't think so. why - do. i don't think so. why should they?— do. i don't think so. why should they? do. i don't think so. why should the ? �* , , ., should they? because they have not to should they? because they have got to look _ should they? because they have got to look smart. _ should they? because they have got to look smart. he _ should they? because they have got to look smart. he cannot - should they? because they have got to look smart. he cannot go | got to look smart. he cannot go in a marks & spencer suit. mini; in a marks & spencer suit. why not? marks _ in a marks & spencer suit. why not? marks & _ in a marks & spencer suit. why not? marks & spencer - in a marks & spencer suit. why not? marks & spencer might i in a marks & spencer suit. why. not? marks & spencer might not be the right _ not? marks & spencer might not be the right one. _
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not? marks & spencer might not be the right one. remember - not? marks & spencer might not be the right one. remember mr| be the right one. remember mr buy right. be the right one. remember mr bu riht. �* ., ., ., buy right. don't have to iron them. it buy right. don't have to iron them- it is — buy right. don't have to iron them. it is a _ buy right. don't have to iron them. it is a lot _ buy right. don't have to iron them. it is a lot of _ buy right. don't have to iron them. it is a lot of suits - buy right. don't have to iron them. it is a lot of suits or. buy right. don't have to iron them. it is a lot of suits or a | them. it is a lot of suits or a very nice one. i them. it is a lot of suits or a very nice one.— very nice one. i agree with ou. i very nice one. i agree with yom i want _ very nice one. i agree with you. i want to _ very nice one. i agree with you. i want to get - very nice one. i agree with you. i want to get neil- very nice one. i agree with you. i want to get neil to i you. i want to get neil to respond. some of us is perfectly reasonable. no, one bit of it. it is a bribe. it is bit of it. it is a bribe. it is a bribe- _ bit of it. it is a bribe. it is a bribe- l— bit of it. it is a bribe. it is a bribe. i am _ bit of it. it is a bribe. it is a bribe. i am sure - bit of it. it is a bribe. it is a bribe. i am sure he - bit of it. it is a bribe. it is a bribe. i am sure he is i bit of it. it is a bribe. it is| a bribe. i am sure he is on bit of it. it is a bribe. it is i a bribe. i am sure he is on a a bribe. lam sure he is on a clothing— a bribe. lam sure he is on a clothing allowance, being prime minister~ — clothing allowance, being prime minister. why does he need somebody else to pay all of this money for all of the suits? _ this money for all of the suits? we are already paying for the — suits? we are already paying for the suits because he is getting _ for the suits because he is getting an allowance. if a guy that gives him less money, this bribe _ that gives him less money, this bribe if— that gives him less money, this bribe if he _ that gives him less money, this bribe, if he wants to look an absolute _ bribe, if he wants to look an absolute peer of the community, why doesn't he give the money to the — why doesn't he give the money to the homeless? something like the rspca? joe public at the end of— the rspca? joe public at the end of the day will then say,
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cracking _ end of the day will then say, cracking guy, that isjust what we want — cracking guy, that isjust what we want to see with our politicians, instead of somebody giving somebody something and expecting something and expecting something back from him. i want to ick u- something back from him. i want to pick op what — something back from him. i want to pick up what you _ something back from him. i want to pick up what you said - something back from him. i want to pick up what you said there i to pick up what you said there because... diane, heathfield. a lot of people saying, looking at the comments, they are all the same. are you saying that, diane? ., ., ., diane? no, i am not saying that, i diane? no, i am not saying that, i am _ diane? no, i am not saying that, i am saying _ diane? no, i am not saying that, i am saying the - diane? no, i am not saying that, i am saying the way l diane? no, i am not saying i that, i am saying the way this has been treated is absolutely bonkers. compared to what boris johnson got up to when he was prime minister, holidays everywhere, old wallpaper paid for, have we all forgotten that? -- for, have we all forgotten that? —— gold wool title. i for, have we all forgotten that? -- gold wooltitle. i am not criticising _ that? -- gold wooltitle. i am not criticising just _ that? -- gold wooltitle. i am not criticising just keir - not criticising just keir starmer. they are all in the same — starmer. they are all in the same boat. starmer. they are all in the same boat-— starmer. they are all in the same boat. this is it. diane, all in the _ same boat. this is it. diane, all in the same _ same boat. this is it. diane, all in the same boat, - same boat. this is it. diane, all in the same boat, and . same boat. this is it. diane, all in the same boat, and it. all in the same boat, and it looks like they are all in a
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sign that a lot of people. you are it is more nuanced than that. it are it is more nuanced than that. ., , are it is more nuanced than that. . , ., , that. it always has. -- it looks like _ that. it always has. -- it looks like they - that. it always has. -- it looks like they are - that. it always has. -- it looks like they are all. that. it always has. -- it looks like they are all in| that. it always has. -- it. looks like they are all in the same boat. the daily mail whipping up ridiculous stuff, what was it saying when boris johnson was having all of the holidays? it is crazy, the double standard. i holidays? it is crazy, the double standard.- holidays? it is crazy, the double standard. i could not... look over _ double standard. i could not... look over there _ double standard. i could not... look over there so _ double standard. i could not... look over there so you - double standard. i could not... look over there so you do - double standard. i could not... look over there so you do not l look over there so you do not look at this, same old tricks. i think they should have a clothing _ i think they should have a clothing allowance, i think it is crazy— clothing allowance, i think it is crazy to expect clothing allowance, i think it is crazy to expec- clothing allowance, i think it is crazy to expect someone on the world — is crazy to expect someone on the world stage _ is crazy to expect someone on the world stage not _ is crazy to expect someone on the world stage not to - is crazy to expect someone on the world stage not to look. is crazy to expect someone on the world stage not to look as j the world stage not to look as if they are on the world stage. i think they should definitely be... everyone should have the same, out in the open. we don't want our prime minister walking about looking scruffy, we want him to look like a world player. him to look like a world ila er. ~ , “ , him to look like a world ila er. ~ , �* , player. why didn't the guy pay for the security _ player. why didn't the guy pay for the security for _ player. why didn't the guy pay for the security for the - for the security for the football for him? did you not
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see prince andrew... cannot remember. see prince andrew... cannot remember-— see prince andrew... cannot remember. the future king, a text, the _ remember. the future king, a text, the future _ remember. the future king, a text, the future king - remember. the future king, a text, the future king was - remember. the future king, a text, the future king was at i text, the future king was at aston villa last night, did he pay? are they buying the king's favour. hang on, if anyone gets a knighthood, will it be the king's favour? 0ne a knighthood, will it be the king's favour? one person is saying there in a text. there was a big row of course about harry, the security policing costs. taylor, come in. hello. carry on- _ costs. taylor, come in. hello. carry on- i _ costs. taylor, come in. hello. carry on. ijoined _ costs. taylor, come in. hello. carry on. ijoined the - costs. taylor, come in. hello. carry on. ijoined the labour l carry on. i 'oined the labour pa in carry on. ijoined the labour party in 2020, _ carry on. ijoined the labour party in 2020, right - carry on. ijoined the labour party in 2020, right after i party in 2020, right after borisjohnson won his 80 plus seat majority, i knew he would put loads of stuff to parliament, and he tried to, proroguing parliament, changing the rules for the 0wen paterson
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affair, i was appalled at his gold wallpaper and the other freebies he and the other members of his cabinet and party got. and he had to go. keir starmer always said, country first, party second. i actually stood to be a candidate for the local council elections. candidate for the local council elections-— candidate for the local council elections.- good i candidate for the local council elections.- good for. elections. did you? good for ou, elections. did you? good for you. mate- _ elections. did you? good for you. mate- in _ elections. did you? good for you, mate. in a _ elections. did you? good for you, mate. in a very- elections. did you? good for you, mate. in a very toryi elections. did you? good for. you, mate. in a very tory area, i was knocking _ you, mate. in a very tory area, i was knocking on _ you, mate. in a very tory area, i was knocking on doors, i you, mate. in a very tory area, i was knocking on doors, tryingj i was knocking on doors, trying to get votes and a lot of people were saying to me, they are all the same, you are all the same. i am trying to make the same. i am trying to make the point, not all the same. we are different. country first, party second. i feel totally betrayed them because keir starmer has showed really poor judgment in taking all of the freebies. i resigned a couple
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of days ago. i freebies. i resigned a couple of days ago-— freebies. i resigned a couple of days ago. i get it, what you are saying. — of days ago. i get it, what you are saying. but _ of days ago. i get it, what you are saying, butjust _ of days ago. i get it, what you are saying, butjust to - of days ago. i get it, what you are saying, butjust to put i of days ago. i get it, what you are saying, butjust to put the j are saying, butjust to put the other side of it, we are talking about borisjohnson“s embossed wallpaper as chosen by lulu little of great repeat now and it was £800 a roll. as compared with the prime minister of this country and his wife who are in brussels and washington and if they are wearing british designers, that is fantastic. i have to look the part. i is fantastic. i have to look the part-— is fantastic. i have to look the art. . ., , the part. i have no problem with his wife _ the part. i have no problem with his wife accepting i the part. i have no problem i with his wife accepting money or clothing whatever to the part — or clothing whatever to the part because she is as you say on the — part because she is as you say on the world stage, rishi sunak's_ on the world stage, rishi sunak's wife was independently wealthy — sunak's wife was independently wealthy and could afford whatever she wanted to afford.
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i whatever she wanted to afford. i don't — whatever she wanted to afford. i don't have a problem with victoria _ i don't have a problem with victoria starmer doing that. but i — victoria starmer doing that. but i think keir starmer probably had to look very smart in court — probably had to look very smart in court when he was director of public— in court when he was director of public prosecutions and i am sure _ of public prosecutions and i am sure they— of public prosecutions and i am sure they can afford to buy his close — sure they can afford to buy his close to — sure they can afford to buy his close to look smart on the world _ close to look smart on the world stage anyway. diane, what do ou world stage anyway. diane, what do you make _ world stage anyway. diane, what do you make of _ world stage anyway. diane, what do you make of fact. .. _ world stage anyway. diane, what do you make of fact. .. as i world stage anyway. diane, what do you make of fact. .. as we i do you make of fact... as we say, nuance was the word we used, no problem with the tickets, what do you make of the fact he made £001,000 i think it was because he sold some property in 2023 and yet he still has to buy his own... someone still buys spectacles for him. i someone still buys spectacles for him. ., �* ~ ., someone still buys spectacles forhim. ., �* ~ ., for him. i don't know about that. a for him. i don't know about that- a lot _ for him. i don't know about that. a lot of _ for him. i don't know about that. a lot of money. i for him. i don't know about that. a lot of money. but i | that. a lot of money. but i think- -- — that. a lot of money. but i think... why— that. a lot of money. but i think... why can't - that. a lot of money. but i think... why can't he i that. a lot of money. but i think... why can't he buyl that. a lot of money. but i i think... why can't he buy his own spectacles? _ think... why can't he buy his own spectacles? i _ think... why can't he buy his own spectacles? i have i think... why can't he buy his own spectacles? i have no i think... why can't he buy his i own spectacles? i have no idea. i think own spectacles? i have no idea. i think they _ own spectacles? i have no idea. i think they probably _ own spectacles? i have no idea. i think they probably have i i think they probably have shown poorjudgment and shown poor judgment and probably shown poorjudgment and probably blindsided by coming into power. i am not particularly a labour
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supporter, ijust think particularly a labour supporter, i just think they should have a clothing allowance, i think there should be... they should look like they belong on the world stage, i think the point about british designers is well made. i think it should be all that in the open. i think they have had a shock and they were not expecting the amount of scrutiny. but the amount of scrutiny. but the amount of scrutiny from the media on them has been extraordinary for a very small amount compared to the huge things the tory party were getting close to £800 a roll, come on, held to a tightly different standard. i suppose it is hoist on your own petard, a bit of that. whiter than white, people do not like that. i have been doing phone and is a long time, discussing vapes at ten o'clock. sarah, you know something about suits come across in glasgow very cynical. with you shortly. sarah, keeping 32 grand of
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suits, is it 60 suits for whatever? i suits, is it 60 suits for whatever?— suits, is it 60 suits for whatever? , ., ., ~' whatever? i used to work in the ci of whatever? i used to work in the city of london. _ whatever? i used to work in the city of london, i _ whatever? i used to work in the city of london, i know- whatever? i used to work in the city of london, i know how i whatever? i used to work in the | city of london, i know how much people spend on their suits, and i'm afraid in savile row you only get about four suits for 32,000, typically costs 7-10,000 for 32,000, typically costs 7—10,000 each. i thought it was useful to put it in perspective. not trying to defend keir starmer in the way he has reported this, but i imagine someone like peter mandelson, one of the other senior people in the labour party said, you would look better if you had a made—to—measure suit, and that is how this has unfolded. you do not think _ is how this has unfolded. you do not think it _ is how this has unfolded. you do not think it was _ is how this has unfolded. you do not think it was of - is how this has unfolded. you do not think it was of the tag? i don't think it was of the pad, i think they would be made to measure, it will not represent many sit settled —— off the peg. what is the advantage of a £7,000 suit? you
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can iet a advantage of a £7,000 suit? you can get a nice — advantage of a £7,000 suit? you can get a nice suit _ advantage of a £7,000 suit? you can get a nice suit £500. most i can get a nice suit £500. most --eole can get a nice suit £500. most people are _ can get a nice suit £500. most people are not _ can get a nice suit £500. most people are not a _ can get a nice suit £500. most people are not a standard i people are not a standard shape. made—to—measure suit in a beautifulfabric does shape. made—to—measure suit in a beautiful fabric does stand out and you conduct through parliament if you are experienced at these things and you can see exactly who has a handmade suit and who hasn't. what are the tell—tale signs? the length of the sleeves, buttons being exactly where... is the height of the person, size of the jacket versus the height. all of those things are very finely tuned when you have a suit handmade. i very finely tuned when you have a suit handmade.— a suit handmade. i love this. the bit where _ a suit handmade. i love this. the bit where the _ a suit handmade. i love this. the bit where the collar- a suit handmade. i love this. | the bit where the collar sticks back of the neck. i the bit where the collar sticks back of the neck.— back of the neck. i wanted to ut in back of the neck. i wanted to put in perspective _ back of the neck. i wanted to put in perspective because i back of the neck. i wanted to i put in perspective because you suggested earlier in your programme this morning that it was rather a lot of suits and i
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don't think it was. it was rather a lot of suits and i don't think it was.— was rather a lot of suits and i don't think it was. it might be four. brilliant _ don't think it was. it might be four. brilliant call. _ don't think it was. it might be four. brilliant call. so - don't think it was. it might be four. brilliant call. so much i four. brilliant call. so much of that this morning. thank you. chris, can you believe we are talking about colours? ho. are talking about colours? no, actuall , are talking about colours? no, actually, i _ are talking about colours? no, actually. i can. _ are talking about colours? no, actually, i can, my— are talking about colours? no, actually, i can, my question is, hypothetical question, why do we — is, hypothetical question, why do we care? i think sarah made a valid — do we care? i think sarah made a valid point, 32 grand worth of suits _ a valid point, 32 grand worth of suits i_ a valid point, 32 grand worth of suits, i would love to be walking _ of suits, i would love to be walking around in a £500 suit. we are — walking around in a £500 suit. we are talking about our prime minister. — we are talking about our prime minister, one of the leaders of one of— minister, one of the leaders of one of the _ minister, one of the leaders of one of the richest nations of the world, public stage, why shouldn't he be wearing a £10,000 suit? surely that is what — £10,000 suit? surely that is what we _ £10,000 suit? surely that is what we should be expecting. i have _ what we should be expecting. i have heard a lot of chat this morning _ have heard a lot of chat this morning about them being all the same, hits the nail on the head. —
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the same, hits the nail on the head. this _ the same, hits the nail on the head, this is about people in leadership positions representing our country on the world _ representing our country on the world stage. i don't want them walking — world stage. i don't want them walking about in a supermarket suit~ _ walking about in a supermarket suit i_ walking about in a supermarket suit. i want to see him up next tojoe — suit. i want to see him up next tojoe biden in his finery. i don't — tojoe biden in his finery. i don't understand what the issue is, don't understand what the issue is my— don't understand what the issue is, my point. don't understand what the issue is, my point-— is, my point. designer finery representing _ is, my point. designer finery representing this _ is, my point. designer finery representing this country i is, my point. designer finery representing this country on | representing this country on the world stage, washington, brussels, as i said earlier, you want him to look decent. why can't he buy his own? rah? why can't he buy his own? why should he _ why can't he buy his own? why should he buy _ why can't he buy his own? why should he buy his— why can't he buy his own? why should he buy his own? he i why can't he buy his own? why i should he buy his own? he made £400,000 — should he buy his own? he made £400,000 in — should he buy his own? he made £400,000 in 2023 _ should he buy his own? he made £400,000 in 2023 and - should he buy his own? he made £400,000 in 2023 and he - should he buy his own? he made| £000,000 in 2023 and he makes should he buy his own? he made i £000,000 in 2023 and he makes a lot of money now and he is tee he has a gold—plated pension —— he has a gold—plated pension —— he has a gold—plated pension —— he has a gold—plated pension. i am not a labour photo but my view _ am not a labour photo but my view on — am not a labour photo but my view on that is, has he not work— view on that is, has he not work to— view on that is, has he not work to earn that position? in the same _ work to earn that position? in the same way the chief executive of a ftse 100 the same way the chief executive of a ftse100 company who is— executive of a ftse100 company who is probably earning a lot more — who is probably earning a lot more than what the prime minister— more than what the prime minister has, they work hard to -et minister has, they work hard to get there _ minister has, they work hard to get there, but i would love to be earning £00,000 a year,
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don't — be earning £00,000 a year, don't get _ be earning £00,000 a year, don't get me wrong, i don't, but — don't get me wrong, i don't, but if— don't get me wrong, i don't, but if i — don't get me wrong, i don't, but if i did, _ don't get me wrong, i don't, but if i did, —— excited... i would _ but if i did, —— excited... i would love _ but if i did, —— excited... i would love to be earning £000,000. if he was the leader of a major— £000,000. if he was the leader of a major company, no one would — of a major company, no one would bat— of a major company, no one would bat an eyelid. this is not — would bat an eyelid. this is not taxpayers' money, these are gifts — not taxpayers' money, these are gifts from — not taxpayers' money, these are gifts from corporate sponsors of the — gifts from corporate sponsors of the labour party, whatever, not costing us a penny, why do we care? — not costing us a penny, why do we care? ., ~ not costing us a penny, why do we care? ., ,, i. not costing us a penny, why do we care?— we care? thank you so much. excellent _ we care? thank you so much. excellent calls, _ we care? thank you so much. excellent calls, finding i we care? thank you so much. excellent calls, finding out i excellent calls, finding out what the nation thinks, we are talking about banning vapes at ten o'clock, we are talking about capes. eastbourne, donna, good morning. give us some perspective on this from your own life. i perspective on this from your own life. .. ., , perspective on this from your own life. . , ., ~' perspective on this from your own life. ., , ., ~ ., own life. i actually work as a carer and — own life. i actually work as a carer and l — own life. i actually work as a carer and i have _ own life. i actually work as a carer and i have done i own life. i actually work as a carer and i have done for i carer and i have done for almost the last ten years and i actually have it written into
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my contract that i am not allowed to accept any gifts from residents orfamilies from residents or families because from residents orfamilies because it would be classed as inappropriate. i really cannot understand why once some people get into what they call government, a position where they have some authority they think it is ok to be able to accept gifts from lots of people. the previous caller i was just listening to him and he said that because it has not come out of the public purse, do we care? if it didn't come out of the public purse, why was it not... why did he not put it down and say, this happened, i was given this? surely these people that keep giving all of the gifts, does not make them have a over keir starmer? is it may never something going on behind—the—scenes we do not know about? there were lots of little things he could do, like that taylor swift tickets. my
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granddaughter sat for hours and hours trying to get taylor swift tickets. she put him in power, where he is. do you not think it would have been a nice thing for him to have taken the tickets down to a charity, a hospice, some young girl, given then the tickets? and enjoy yourself. there are lots of things he could do that would make the situation not as bad as what it is except trying to cover it up. i as what it is except trying to cover it up— cover it up. i like steer calmer— cover it up. i like steer calmer which - cover it up. i like steer calmer which is i cover it up. i like steer calmer which is said i cover it up. i like steer i calmer which is said earlier. antidote to road rage. he obviously _ antidote to road rage. he: obviously worked as crown prosecutor, not short of a few bob, i get more people are saying about him looking smart, i get that. there were lots of ways of looking smart, there are poor people that have to go to charity shops and buy their clothes, a lot of pensioners have to go to charity shops and buy their clothes because that
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is the only way they can do it. i sat for 500 quid you will get a nice suit. and s, by the way, i have taken no bribes, you can go to m&s, they have not taken me out to lunch, what do you make of that 5—6 grand for a seat? make of that 5-6 grand for a seat? , ., ,., .., make of that 5-6 grand for a seat? , ., ,., .. i. seat? diabolical. i get if you want to promote _ seat? diabolical. i get if you want to promote british i want to promote british designers, i get that, but why not be open about it? why do you have to hide it?— you have to hide it? listen, i want to bring _ you have to hide it? listen, i want to bring in _ you have to hide it? listen, i want to bring in maxine, i you have to hide it? listen, i. want to bring in maxine, listen to maxine, may be checked, maxine, do you hear what donna says, works in the care industry?— says, works in the care industry? says, works in the care indust ? ., ., ,, industry? good morning. thank ou for industry? good morning. thank you for giving — industry? good morning. thank you for giving me _ industry? good morning. thank you for giving me the _ industry? good morning. thank you for giving me the time i industry? good morning. thank you for giving me the time on i you for giving me the time on air~ _ you forgiving me the time on air~ i— you for giving me the time on air~ i agree _ you for giving me the time on air. i agree with sum of what donna —
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air. i agree with sum of what donna said in terms of sharing the gifts — donna said in terms of sharing the gifts from taylor swift with — the gifts from taylor swift with people who perhaps could not afford it. however, for me, a lot— not afford it. however, for me, a lot of— not afford it. however, for me, a lot of this _ not afford it. however, for me, a lot of this is actually promoting british industry and what _ promoting british industry and what an— promoting british industry and what an accolade to have someone like the prime minister coming _ someone like the prime minister coming to— someone like the prime minister coming to your concept. what does — coming to your concept. what does it— coming to your concept. what does it tell other people who might— does it tell other people who might think of this country to come — might think of this country to come and _ might think of this country to come and hold a concert? what about _ come and hold a concert? what about the — come and hold a concert? what about the income the concert brings? — about the income the concert brings? what about the income that is— brings? what about the income that is wearing a designer suit that is wearing a designer suit that is— that is wearing a designer suit that is british made same to the rest _ that is british made same to the rest of the world? these are people standing on the world — are people standing on the world stage. they are not your local— world stage. they are not your local charity worker, they are representing you and i am not _ representing you and i am not i_ representing you and i am not... i was not born in england _ not... i was not born in england i_ not... i was not born in england. lam british. i not... i was not born in england. lam british. lam england. iam british. lam really— england. lam british. lam really proud to see those
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british— really proud to see those british products on people representing us. these days... i representing us. these days... i remember— representing us. these days... i remember a representing us. these days... i remembera time representing us. these days... i remember a time when we used to say— i remember a time when we used to say buy— i remember a time when we used to say buy british. people on the world _ to say buy british. people on the world stage should be showcasing british products. lady— showcasing british products. lady starmer has been wearing i think it is e&m, great british designers. maureen, halifax, do you care about this? absolutely, i care about this. it boggles my head to think... it boggles my head to think... i have worked in the care industry, 15 years, never had anything, never been handed anything, never been handed anything, i have to buy my own clothes, there are two of us in our household, we are near enough minimum wage. people like us, we see what represents... i didn't vote for
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labour but the government is meant to represent us as the people, people who work in our industry see this, it seems like treachery, really. treachery? i like treachery, really. treachery?— like treachery, really. treache ? ., ., , , treachery? i have to budget but i ut on treachery? i have to budget but i put on the _ treachery? i have to budget but i put on the table, _ treachery? i have to budget but i put on the table, food, i i put on the table, food, heating, and then you have these people in power that literally get everything handed on a plate. high—powered jobs, tie earn a certain amount of wage, but it is all the add—ons that. wage, but it is all the add-ons that. ., wage, but it is all the add-ons that, . , wage, but it is all the add-ons that. . , y that. that may be the devil's barrister- — that. that may be the devil's barrister. he _ that. that may be the devil's barrister. he is _ that. that may be the devil's barrister. he is the - that. that may be the devil's barrister. he is the prime i barrister. he is the prime minister —— let me be. he barrister. he is the prime minister -- let me be. he then needs to _ minister -- let me be. he then needs to set — minister -- let me be. he then needs to set an _ minister -- let me be. he then needs to set an example. i minister -- let me be. he then needs to set an example. he i needs to set an example. he should set — needs to set an example. he should set an _ needs to set an example. he should set an example? listen, what a superb array of colours, thank you so much. we are in the next hour going to discuss banning vapes, do you think we should? labour in a sense put
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the clothes back on the agenda by declaring this declaration, they declared something, of principles, thank you very much to everybody who has texted and called in and thank you for watching the segment of the programme on bbc news.
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live from london. this is bbc news. seven people are killed in beirut in an israeli strike on a building — close to the centre of the lebanese capital. the israeli military continues to target hezbollah — confirming it struck around 200 targets overnight. president biden says the us would not support any potential israeli strike on iran's nuclear sites, after tehran launched a barrage of missiles at israel on tuesday. sir keir starmer pays back over £6000 worth of gifts and hospitality received since becoming uk prime minister — after a backlash over donations. and, prosecutors in the election interference case against donald trump allege that the former president “resorted to crimes“ to overturn the 2020 election result.
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hello, i'm sarah campbell. we start in the middle east and israel's military claims to have killed 15 hezbollah members in the south of lebanon. the idf has released a statement saying it struck 200 hezbollah targets overnight. meanwhile at least seven people have been killed in an israeli airstrike in the heart of the beiruit. it was on hezbollah—affiliated medical centre in a residential building. the victims were all medics. we're looking at live pictures showing smoke filling the skyline of the lebanese capital. the idf says it has carried out what it calls “precise strikes“ on a building that is used by hezbollah. in its latest release the idf says hezbollah terrorists were operating in the building, and large quantities of hezbollah weapons were stored there.

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