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this is bbc news, the headlines... iran's supreme leader leads friday prayers in tehran for the first time in nearly five years. it comes after iran fired it comes after iran fired nearly 200 ballistic missiles into israel on tuesday. nearly 200 ballistic missiles israel widens its israel widens its campaign ofairstrikes campaign ofairstrikes on hezbollah targets. on hezbollah targets. the lebanese health ministry says 37 people have been killed. have been killed. this is the view of this is the view of southern beirut as israeli southern beirut as israeli strikes continue. strikes continue. global oil pricesjump global oil pricesjump as president biden said as president biden said he was discussing possible he was discussing possible strikes on iranian oil strikes on iranian oil facilities by israel. facilities by israel. mps will get a vote mps will get a vote on assisted dying in england and wales for the first time on assisted dying in england in nine years. campaigners in favour campaigners in favour welcome the move, whilst welcome the move, whilst others remain cautious. others remain cautious.
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at friday prayers? it was a significant _ at friday prayers? it was a significant speech - at friday prayers? it was a significant speech coming | at friday prayers? it was a i significant speech coming at at friday prayers? it was a - significant speech coming at a time when here in israel, israeli leaders are basically planning their response to tuesday night's iranian missile attacks on israel. that response we feel he could come any moment, any hour, any day now. and no doubt israeli leaders were watching what is going on in tehran too, where, as you say, the iranian leader, for the first time in nearly five years, appeared at a massive, mass prayer in tehran to basically mark watt has been going on in the last few weeks and also particularly the leader of hezbollah recently. he is defiant, he is angry, he called on muslim nations to
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unite. he said the enemy is... the enemy of all our nations is one, whether we are in iran, iraq, syria, egypt, all these countries that he named. egypt, yemen, he said our enemy is one enemy. and this enemy is trying to divide us with the tactic of divide and rule, and we have to come to each other�*s support. he supported the hamas attack on october the 7th on israel. he said this attack was a correct, rationaland he said this attack was a correct, rational and legal, as he called it. he also praised iran's action on tuesday night, firing nearly 200 ballistic missiles into israel, saying that was also legitimate and
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legal. he said it was the least punishment for israel, who he called the rabid dog of the us in the region. he also particularly was calling on palestinians to resist the israelis. he said palestinians have every right to resist an enemy which is trying to take their homes and killed them. it was a defiant thing. by the iranian leader. and he also used the second sermon in arabic to say much the same things, praising hassan nasrallah, the late leader of hezbollah, and calling on people to resist israel. he
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said the presence of super powers in the region is one of the main problems that this region cannot see peace. he was talkin: , region cannot see peace. he was talking. and — region cannot see peace. he was talking, and we _ region cannot see peace. he was talking, and we are _ region cannot see peace. he was talking, and we are seeing - talking, and we are seeing pictures of tens of thousands of people listening to him directly, but who do you think as he was speaking he was addressing his message to? obviously the arab world, and addressing his message to? obviously the arab world, and particularly what iran calls particularly what iran calls the axis of resistance. we are the axis of resistance. we are talking about hezbollah, the talking about hezbollah, the houthis in yemen, we are houthis in yemen, we are talking about militias in syria talking about militias in syria and iraq, particularly. because and iraq, particularly. because before tuesday night they were before tuesday night they were losing hope in the leadership losing hope in the leadership of iran, iran's leadership of of iran, iran's leadership of
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this axis because iran hadn't this axis because iran hadn't acted on acted on several actions of israel, including the assassination of the hamas leader in tehran injuly. many of this axis of resistance were losing hope in the leadership of iran, it was losing face, and they decide it, i think reluctantly, to take this action of firing 200 missiles into israel, to show they are still resisting israel and they are there for them, for the axis of resistance in the region. i say reluctantly because i feel that iran is not in a position to enter a war, really, militarily, politically, economically. militarily, iran is no match
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for israel, particularly israel's air superiority. politically, the iranian regime and ayatollah khamenei are vastly unpopular in iran and its not quite certain that if a war breaks out the iranian population as a whole will back that kind of war, that they think it's got nothing to do with iran. also economically, don't forget iran has been under international sanctions for years. the iranian economy is on its knees and iran can't really sustain a war, a massive war in the region.— really sustain a war, a massive war in the region. thank you so much for _ war in the region. thank you so much for that _ war in the region. thank you so much for that analysis, - war in the region. thank you so much for that analysis, our - war in the region. thank you so i much for that analysis, our bbc persia correspondent. huge explosions have been seen near the main airport in the lebanese capital, beirut, where people have been scrambling to board flights to leave the country as it is bombarded by the israeli military. these are live pictures from
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the lebanese capital. the lebanese health ministry said 37 people were killed in beruit and in southern lebanon over the past 2a hours. the airport is close to where hezbollah has a strong presence in the city, which has been pounded by a fresh wave of air strikes overnight. there have also been reports of around 20 rockets being fired from lebanon into israel. let's speak to lebanese resident racha na bechara atmeh. she is currently in beirut. she fled the southern area of tyre with her family last week. thank you so much for talking to us on bbc news. what we have to us on bbc news. what we have to remember when we see those pictures, there are hundreds of thousands of people living with this. take us through your story this week, starting on monday. story this week, starting on monda . ., ~ ,, story this week, starting on monda . ., ~ ., ., monday. thank you for having me. as monday. thank you for having me- as i _ monday. thank you for having me. as i said _ monday. thank you for having
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me. as i said last _ monday. thank you for having me. as i said last time, - monday. thank you for having me. as i said last time, but . monday. thank you for having me. as i said last time, but i | me. as i said last time, but i was on air with you guys, since we left on monday it has just been a nightmare that we have gone through. and even if we are staying in beirut, i am staying around ten kilometres from dahieh in beirut, we can still hear all the bombings, especially at night. it's not stopping, and it doesn't look like it is going to stop soon. so i really don't know what to say. no one is safe, we don't feel safe anywhere. we are just living day by day. you feel safe anywhere. we are 'ust living day by day-fl living day by day. you say you are living _ living day by day. you say you are living day _ living day by day. you say you are living day by _ living day by day. you say you are living day by day. - living day by day. you say you are living day by day. are - living day by day. you say you are living day by day. are you | are living day by day. are you able to go out to get food? how is the population carrying on with all a few bakeries are open
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closed. a few bakeries are open because people have to go to work and they need a place. you don't see people going out to restau ra nts. .. we are live on bbc news as sir keir starmer is due to announce a huge new investment in carbon capture and storage in the uk. he is in liverpool with chancellor rachel reeves and health climate secretary ed miliband. you can see there picture on your screen, live from liverpool. we expect energy secretary ed miliband to
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speak on the proceedings. we have our correspondencejonah have our correspondence jonah fisher with have our correspondencejonah fisher with us. let's go back to the beginning, help us understand what the project would be, carbon capture and storage, how would it work? this is trying to deal with the issue we have around much of fossil fuel power generation at the moment, it emits carbon dioxide gas, which we all know is a greenhouse gas that contributes to the warming of our atmosphere. where carbon capture and storage comes in, it effectively adds a part onto the process, it captures that carbon dioxide and then stores it. today there is one the storage facility underneath the north sea and there is another one for hydrogen just off liverpool, underneath the sea. the idea is you can still carry on with these processes which are currently polluting
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processes that contribute to the warming of the atmosphere, by capturing the carbon dioxide and storing it in a way so it doesn't go back into the atmosphere.— doesn't go back into the atmosphere. the pro'ect is still controversial _ atmosphere. the project is still controversial among i atmosphere. the project is - still controversial among some scientists and climate change campaigners. scientists and climate change campaigners-_ scientists and climate change campaigners-— campaigners. yeah, it's a question _ campaigners. yeah, it's a question of— campaigners. yeah, it's a question of priorities. - campaigners. yeah, it's a question of priorities. in | campaigners. yeah, it's a| question of priorities. in a net zero future where we are not adding more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere we are still going to need some power being generated from fossil fuel sources to back up the big expansion in wind and solar power that we will see over the next few years. but something will be needed and if we are going to have net zero then we will need carbon capture attached to that. the great increase is the cost of it but we need it to make sure the lights stay on when there is not much wind and the sun isn't shining. the counterpoint to that, and this is what some
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environmental campaigners would say, is that effectively we are perpetuating fossil fuel future in the uk and we are giving those companies extracting oil and gas a pathway into the future and we should be more decisive in the move away from it, we shouldn't be looking at spending, as people are today, spending, as people are today, spending £22 billion on carbon capture and storage. that should be spent on even more wind, offshore wind. it should be spent on investing in storage and storage capacity, so on a particularly windy day you can store the energy for a time when it may not be so windy. and we should be moving much more decisively away from fossil fuels. much more decisively away from fossilfuels. that's much more decisively away from fossil fuels. that's the nature of the discussion, really. what the government will set out todayis the government will set out today is that they believe although we will be moving away from using gas and fossil fuels, there will still be a call for it in this net zero future that they are proposing
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and we will need carbon capture to make sure we don't continue contributing to the gases warming the atmosphere. life warming the atmosphere. we understand at the moment there is a real controversy over whether this is a labour or conservative party policy. explain the politics around it today. explain the politics around it toda . , ., , explain the politics around it toda. , . , ., ., . today. this had been announced previously _ today. this had been announced previously by — today. this had been announced previously by the _ today. this had been announced previously by the conservative l previously by the conservative party in a previous government. what the current government is saying is that they are going a step further. although the pledge was made by the previous government, they didn't flesh it out and nothing really move forward. what is happening today, they are putting meat on the bones. there has been a hydrogen plant being planned for a while on the north—west coast. they are talking about the go—ahead for hydrogen plants. and a waste burning
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plant. and then on teesside, the east coast, the go—ahead for a gas powered power station which will have carbon capture attached to it. effectively what the new labour government is saying is, there were figures attached to carbon capture before but they are going a step further and they will make sure that actually happens so some of those plans can go ahead. let's speak to co—founder and director of esg and former government adviser on climate change, tom burke. word you say this is a good use of £22 billion of public money? i think it is worth spending. but — i think it is worth spending. but lets— i think it is worth spending. but let's be really clear, this is 22 — but let's be really clear, this is 22 billion over 25 years. so its less— is 22 billion over 25 years. so its less thani is 22 billion over 25 years. so its less than 1 billion is 22 billion over 25 years. so its less thani billion per year— its less thani billion per year for— its less thani billion per year for top it's not exactly the — year for top it's not exactly the most _ year for top it's not exactly the most significant investment we will— the most significant investment we will made in making the energy— we will made in making the
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energy transition. so do we need — energy transition. so do we need to— energy transition. so do we need to have some carbon capture _ need to have some carbon capture and storage? yes, we do. do— capture and storage? yes, we do. do we — capture and storage? yes, we do. do we need a lot of it? probably— do. do we need a lot of it? probably not. i do. do we need a lot of it? probably not.— do. do we need a lot of it? probably not. i guess the key number the _ probably not. i guess the key number the government - probably not. i guess the key number the government willl probably not. i guess the key - number the government will want us to rememberfrom number the government will want us to remember from this number the government will want us to rememberfrom this is that this project will create 4000 jobs. what do you make of that? 4000 “obs. what do you make of that? i: i: i: 4000 “obs. what do you make of that? :: :: :: ., , , that? 4000 jobs in construction, - that? 4000 jobs in . construction, meaning that? 4000 jobs in - construction, meaning they that? 4000 jobs in _ construction, meaning they are temporaryjobs, not permanent temporary jobs, not permanent ones _ temporary jobs, not permanent ones so— temporaryjobs, not permanent ones. so that's a bit of number crunching — ones. so that's a bit of number crunching for the headlines, i think — crunching for the headlines, i think the _ crunching for the headlines, i think. the thing about carbon capture — think. the thing about carbon capture and storage, it is a step— capture and storage, it is a step on— capture and storage, it is a step on the path to making a good — step on the path to making a good transition to carbon free energy. — good transition to carbon free energy, but it's not the destination. it's not going to be part— destination. it's not going to be part of where we finally need. _ be part of where we finally need. a _ be part of where we finally need, a very big part, of where we finally— need, a very big part, of where we finally need to end up. this is one of the _ we finally need to end up. this is one of the first _ we finally need to end up. this is one of the first major - is one of the first major announcements from the government on policies around energy. i guess people following the programme today will be wondering how does this affect energy prices in the long term? i know that might be quite a complicated question, but what would you say to it?
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is not going to have much effect _ is not going to have much effect on energy prices. public spending _ effect on energy prices. public spending on carbon capture, from — spending on carbon capture, from less— spending on carbon capture, from less thani billion per year. _ from less thani billion per year. will— from less thani billion per year, will not make much difference to carbon prices anyway, _ difference to carbon prices anyway, and far less difference than _ anyway, and far less difference than there would be for instance from the impact on energy— instance from the impact on energy prices on bills, of changes— energy prices on bills, of changes in the price of gas. i don't — changes in the price of gas. i don't think the public needs to worry— don't think the public needs to worry about this having a big impact _ worry about this having a big impact. you are right to point out that— impact. you are right to point out that the government is at least — out that the government is at least getting on with it, which was a — least getting on with it, which was a bit _ least getting on with it, which was a bit of a problem with the last government, which tended to make — last government, which tended to make lots of big announcements but then not spend — announcements but then not spend any money. i think it's important _ spend any money. i think it's important we get on with small steps. — important we get on with small steps, even if this is a small step— steps, even if this is a small step and _ steps, even if this is a small step and not a giant leap. nevertheless, the clock is ticking _ nevertheless, the clock is ticking on climate change and we have — ticking on climate change and we have to get on with things and it's— we have to get on with things and it's good to see the government getting on with it. our climate correspondence jonah fisher is still with us. one of the criticisms from
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climate campaigners is that the government should have spent much more of this money on insulating their homes for people. explain their argument there. �* , people. explain their argument there. �*. ., . there. it's part of the big picture. _ there. it's part of the big picture, really, - there. it's part of the big picture, really, about. there. it's part of the big | picture, really, about how there. it's part of the big - picture, really, about how we go about achieving net zero. there are many ways, you can obviously generate your electricity in greener ways using offshore wind and solar. you can also reduce the amount of energy you use by insulating homes better so that people burn less gas during the winter. that forms part of it. obviously whenever a big announcement or big decision is made like this, there will be people who question it and wonder whether it couldn't have been easier or quicker spent. a massive insulation was rolled out, it would be quicker to put in place, probably, than building some of these new
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facilities. but the way the government is looking at it, and i have no doubt they have a point for insulating properties, but this will be a part of a multifaceted approach on net zero, looking at expanding various different things and also probably looking at consumption as well. as tom burke was telling us, this is £22 billion that will be spent over 25 years. do we have a sense of where the money is coming from because government spending has been a big issue. it government spending has been a bi issue. big issue. it will come directly _ big issue. it will come directly from - big issue. it will come directly from the - big issue. it will come - directly from the treasury, i guess. they hope they will also attract private investment, the figure of 8 billion of private investment has been put forward. whether you attract private money to these sorts of projects depends on if you can come up with a way of paying for it. and factoring in additional costs. in these sorts of projects, for example the gas—fired power station, it's likely...
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the gas-fired power station, it's likely. . ._ it's likely... here appears that jonah's _ it's likely. .. here appears that jonah's liner- it's likely... here appears that jonah's liner has - it's likely... here appears that jonah's liner hasjustj thatjonah's liner has just frozen. we still have tom burke with us. i guess a question for you isjust to help with us. i guess a question for you is just to help us understand how the technology fits in, carbon capture storage fits in, carbon capture storage fits in, carbon capture storage fits in with the tools we have to fight climate change at the moment. .. .. �* to fight climate change at the moment. ., .. �* ., , moment. you can't do everything at once. there _ moment. you can't do everything at once. there are _ moment. you can't do everything at once. there are some - moment. you can't do everything at once. there are some things i at once. there are some things you have — at once. there are some things you have to— at once. there are some things you have to do right away. jono was right— you have to do right away. jono was right to pick up on the importance of reducing demand, especially if you want to get bills— especially if you want to get bills down for that we have the luckiest — bills down for that we have the luckiest buildings in europe. by luckiest buildings in europe. by doing _ luckiest buildings in europe. by doing things that make buildings heat tight you will do a — buildings heat tight you will do a lot— buildings heat tight you will do a lot right away. we also have — do a lot right away. we also have problems that will take longer, _ have problems that will take longer, and carbon capture is one _ longer, and carbon capture is one of— longer, and carbon capture is one of them, it will take longer— one of them, it will take longer to make the necessary changes _ longer to make the necessary changes. you have to start now even _ changes. you have to start now even if — changes. you have to start now even if you _ changes. you have to start now even if you will not get the full results of that for some time — full results of that for some time. there is a suite of things. _ time. there is a suite of things, some of which coming on very quickly and some of which
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need _ very quickly and some of which need to— very quickly and some of which need to come in earlier. the really— need to come in earlier. the really important thing is you have — really important thing is you have to _ really important thing is you have to get on with starting, as much— have to get on with starting, as much as we possibly can as soon — as much as we possibly can as soon as— as much as we possibly can as soon as we _ as much as we possibly can as soon as we can.— soon as we can. and 'ust to remind viewers h soon as we can. and 'ust to remind viewers that h soon as we can. and just to remind viewers that we - soon as we can. and just to remind viewers that we are | soon as we can. and just to - remind viewers that we are live with bbc news and the pictures you can see on your screen are coming in from liverpool. we are expecting the government to announce they will invest nearly £22 billion in what it calls ground—breaking projects to capture and store carbon dioxide. we will bring you that speech from sir keir starmer as soon as we get it. we still have our climate correspondence jonah fisher with us. i'm sure peoplejustjoining us, and of course this is a very complicated project. a lot of people will not have heard about it. when we talk about carbon capture and storage, how exactly does it work? the technology _ exactly does it work? the technology is _ exactly does it work? the technology is not - exactly does it work? tue: technology is not particularly ground—breaking, it has been
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around for decades. what's different now is that it will potentially be implemented and built before the economics of doing this simply haven't added up. no company would want to build a power station that costs twice as much with carbon capture attached to it. they wouldn't be able to complete. we see now that technology that has exist for quite a long time potentially being put into practice by the government, coming up with potentially large amounts of money to make it possible to attract private companies to come in and make it attractive to do this. it is important to make that point. it's not ground—breaking in terms of technology. it's just at this point in time, with the situation we face with climate change, it has become priority enough for the government to consider supporting it in a way that can make it happen. haifa that can make it happen. how does it compare _ that can make it happen. how does it compare with - that can make it happen. how does it compare with other countries? this will be the first project of its kind here in the uk but when we look at
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examples around the world, how does it compare?— does it compare? other countries _ does it compare? other countries are _ does it compare? other countries are doing - does it compare? other countries are doing this| countries are doing this already on a fairly limited scale in the context of emissions globally. the united states, norway is quite advanced in terms of climate change and storage. but it is still a relatively new thing. hopefully they will look at ways to continue generating electricity using fossil fuel but without emitting the carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. brute dioxide into the atmosphere. we can turn back to tom burke, a former government adviser on climate change. you're still with us on bbc news. we know for example that the government has said this is a ground—breaking project, but in your estimation, do you think this is necessarily an
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important project? there are controversies around it. its important project? there are controversies around it.- controversies around it. its a small step — controversies around it. its a small step on _ controversies around it. its a small step on the _ controversies around it. its a small step on the path - controversies around it. its a small step on the path to - controversies around it. its a | small step on the path to the destination of a carbon free economy. i don't think it's got economy. idon't think it's got very— economy. idon't think it's got very much— economy. i don't think it's got very much to do with making carbon— very much to do with making carbon free electricity. we will — carbon free electricity. we will not _ carbon free electricity. we will not use very much carbon capture — will not use very much carbon capture and storage in relation to electricity generation, but there — to electricity generation, but there are _ to electricity generation, but there are certain industries that— there are certain industries that are _ there are certain industries that are hard to abate, steel, cement. _ that are hard to abate, steel, cement, glass, some refining and petrochemicals. and in those — and petrochemicals. and in those areas i think there will be a — those areas i think there will be a role _ those areas i think there will be a role for carbon capture to play _ be a role for carbon capture to play an — be a role for carbon capture to play an important part economically, but not necessarily a very important part— necessarily a very important part of— necessarily a very important part of actually solving the problem of too much carbon in the atmosphere, which is creating _ the atmosphere, which is creating climate change. and 'ust to creating climate change. and just to remind _ creating climate change. situc just to remind viewers that creating climate change. mr. just to remind viewers that you are live with bbc news and we are live with bbc news and we are waiting for the prime minister, sir keir starmer, to take the stage in liverpool, where he will set out to the
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government's proposals and funding promises for carbon capture and storage projects. we can turn back to our climate correspondencejonah fisher. correspondence jonah fisher. explain correspondencejonah fisher. explain to us what the announcement will be from the government. brute announcement will be from the government-— government. we are expecting them to announce _ government. we are expecting them to announce close - government. we are expecting them to announce close to - government. we are expecting them to announce close to 22. them to announce close to 22 billion pounds of funding over 25 years for three primary carbon capture projects across two clusters. the idea behind the clusters is you have various different installations and projects all feeding into the same storage facility. in the same storage facility. in the case of the deeside cluster on the east coast, that will go to the north sea stop a hydrogen —based project on the west coast will go under liverpool bay and be stored there. three primary projects, two of them in the hydrogen
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production plant, and also an energy waste facility. and on the east coast there will be a carbon capture and storage gas power station that will effectively provide electricity when, for example, there isn't enough generated by offshore and onshore wind or solar power, to back—up the systems. jonah fisher, thank you. and tom burke, you can both stay with us and we'll continue to follow what's happening in liverpool and bring you much on that here on bbc news. the government has promised to make millions of homes more energy efficient over the next five years by insulating them. earlier this year the bbc revealed that insulation installed in hundreds of thousands of homes could fail because it has not been fitted properly leaving hundreds of thousands living in damp and mouldy conditions. zoe conway
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reports. i'm removing this mushroomy stuff that's grown on my mum's wall. lukman ashraf says mushrooms started growing after external wall insulation was fitted nearly two years ago. looks disgusting. we've got mould, as well. his mother, tormooja khatun, is 84 years old and recently had a stroke. but she liked to sort of live her last few years in this house. and to live in comfort. yeah. beneath the floorboards, growths of white dry—rot fungus are feeding off this house. external wall insulation involves fixing insulation boards to the outside brickwork of a house and applying render to make it waterproof. see, this is virtually flat. building surveyor david walter is inspecting mrs khatun's house. what do you make of the quality of the workmanship? it's appalling. it's just obviously been done by people who don't understand the basic principles of weatherproofing a building. the sad thing is, i see it time and time again, up and down the country.
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back inside, the consequences are clear to see. this is a classic fruiting body of dry rot, and that's growing out from the mycelium. the family has been warned it could cost more than £100,000 to repair their home. it's not clear who will pick up the bill. more than three million uk homes have had insulation fitted under the government's energy efficiency schemes. the bbc revealed earlier this year that figures compiled by the regulator ofgem suggest that hundreds of thousands of homes could have insulation that wasn't installed to the required standard. the government's got to find out the depth of the problem and we cannot see heartbreaking, horrific stories like mrs khatun's — you know, that is just shocking. you know, the tragedy is there's many more households that are impacted the same way. the company that insulated
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we remain committed to working closely with the customer she doesn't sleep anyway due to ill health. she does worry a lot. the family fears what another winter will do to their home. zoe conway, bbc news, luton. you are live with bbc news as we wait for sir keir starmer to announce a huge investment in carbon capture and storage in the uk. we can take you to liverpool where the energy secretary has taken to the stage. let's take a listen. the hiihwa stage. let's take a listen. the highway for— stage. let's take a listen. the highway for carbon _ stage. let's take a listen. tte: highway for carbon capture and storage in the future, and also at teesside, the world's
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