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tonight, israel remembers october 7th. wailing singing the continued rocket fire from the north and the south, a reminder of the tightrope the nation still walks. we will hear tonight from those who survived october 7th. we will reflect on the year that has passed. and the losses on all sides.
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and we will discuss where the conflict goes next. as israel plans its response, to last week's ballistic missile attacks from iran. a year ago today, at 6:29 in the morning, the hamas rockets began to rain down on southern israel. just 20 minutes later, the hamas fighters had broken the border fence thousands of them rampaging through israeli communities, the army bases and the nova music festival. nearly 1200 people were killed hundreds more were taken hostage. israel had been shaken to its roots. disoriented by the catastrophe, shamed by its failure to foresee it. but unanimous in their conviction that hamas would pay the price. at exactly 6:29 this morning the flags were lowered to half mast outside the knesset, to mark the moment the first hamas rockets were fired a year ago. and at the site of the nova music festival, where more than 350 people were murdered, president
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isaac herzog joined the families to mourn. all around them, the sound of the war, the drones hovering over gaza, the crack of gunfire across the border. the fighting has raged almost unabated for a year. there were rockets fired at israel today from both gaza and lebanon. but in his address to the nation, prime minister netanyahu said the israeli forces would "changing the security reality in the region'. in response they have again targeted the lebanese capital and have launched fresh strikes on targets in northern gaza. we start our coverage tonight with this report from my colleague clive myrie, on the day's events. their tears are shared. there is a solidarity in this nation's sorrow. uniting strangers and friends, rich and poor, young and old.
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as a still traumatised people mourn, thousands gathered today in southern israel, remembering the 383 people killed at the nova music festival. what is also being mourned is the death of promise — because so many young lives yet to be lived were snatched away. ask danielle, a survive of the horror of october seventh, in her early 20s. our conversation about how she ran for cover has war rage not far away in gaza. i remember for a few minutes just running, not knowing... the war continues? it continues, a year later is continues and it is sad to say but i'm used to it. i'm only 23 and i'm used
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to rockets and missiles and terror attacks. that is such a tragedy. i don't know how... how is it possible that one year later and we still have 101 hostages? a few miles away from here? beneath the collective trauma, there are divisions. here in tel aviv it is the bereaved families of hostages still being held who are holding this commemoration. while tonight, there will be a different ceremony on behalf of the government, prerecorded without an audience, to be broadcast on television. how best to get the hostages home? how best to turn military victories into long laster political solutions? those are the big questions and fault lines. but for now, there is collective silence.
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to remember. do you think you will ever get over your experience, what happened? i hope so. i don't know, but i hope so, i wish i will, i'm surrounded by amazing people, the nova community is my new family. i hope i'm going to be ok. i have to believe in that. but will israel be ok? lyse doucet, our chief international correspondent is in tel aviv. you have been at a memorial concert tonight in tel aviv, another minute's silence to remember. maybe you can give us your brief reflections on what you've witnessed today. figs your brief reflections on what
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you've witnessed today. as you can see behind _ you've witnessed today. as you can see behind me, _ you've witnessed today. as you can see behind me, the - you've witnessed today. as you can see behind me, the screen| can see behind me, the screen is now gone. the memorial here was called the bereaved families memorial. it was profoundly moving, very sad, very stirring. the organisers said it was a moment for families to come together, to mourn together and to try and find hope together. and it really was a reaction to the government's own event that happened today, a pre—recorded event that went out. no audience, and the organisers said it had no soul. and actually, the government was not invited here, because the anger still burns among many of the families who lost loved ones during those horrific attacks of october the 7th. the anger still burns as well because so many believe as we often report that the prime minister benjamin netanyahu is not doing enough to bring the last 101 hostages home, although many are feared dead. he said he is, but there is a
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profound feeling of anger and sadness that their loved ones are being forsaken. and just travelling across southern israel yesterday and today, it is really chilling to try to imagine what these people went through during the dawn rampage by hamas on the early hours of october the 7th last year. you go to what were bustling and beautiful kibbutz with their flowering trees and these were communities of many peace activists who had relationships with the people from gaza across the border and their lives were completely shattered. so many people say it is like an open wound, you can feel how raw it still is until every single hostage is accounted for, they feel they cannot rest. they continue to live through the horrors of october the 7th. of course,
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throughout the time we were travelling across the south, we kept hearing the loud booms of israeli artillery, occasional air raid sirens, because the war goes on. these horrific events triggered a devastating war on gaza that also has to be described as unprecedented. 42,000 dead so far says the un, most of them women and children they say. and today again we were reminded by prime minister benjamin netanyahu that there is no ceasefire and fight and this war will go on.- this war will go on. there is no relenting _ this war will go on. there is no relenting the _ this war will go on. there is no relenting the groups - this war will go on. there is l no relenting the groups israel is fighting despite the pressure they are under. hezbollah said today it is confident in its ability to repel the mounting offensive and israel said they will continue —— said they will continue —— said they will continue a war of attrition against israel. it continue a war of attrition against israel.— against israel. it is
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absolutely - against israel. it is i absolutely undeniable against israel. it is - absolutely undeniable that israel has scored a spectacular tactical successes over the last year. first of all it has killed many of the senior commanders of hamas although it is still searching for its most wanted man, who they believe is the mastermind of the october seven attacks, both the political and military leader of her mass said to be hiding in a bunker under gaza. but their military capabilities of hamas have been smashed. although as we saw today they still have the capability to launch rockets, they aren't the military force they were a year ago carrying overwhelming israeli security forces catching them off guard. we have to remember that october the 7th was notjust a deeply painful event, it was also a massive intelligence failure, security failure, for israelis. and when it comes to lebanon on hezbollah, it is extraordinary that israel has wiped out pretty well every command
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structure of hezbollah. it has attacked many of their operational headquarters, it has raided many of their military capabilities, but hezbollah as well has been firing rockets into israel. today they landed in the port of haaifa, they passed israel's air defences, and in this park in central tel aviv as we waiting for the ceremony to start, the air raid sirens went off, the loud shows on the megaphones of, get down! and a missile fired all the way from yemen by the houthis, all these actors that iran calls the ring of fire, the axis of resistance. benjamin netanyahu resistance. benjamin neta nyahu says resistance. benjamin netanyahu says he is determined to crush this network, but so many are same for all these tactical successes, the strategic successes, the strategic success he wants for israelis to be able to go home, 140,000 either in the north or south,
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to ensure that this kind of event doesn't happen again, it takes a political solution, and the kind of solution that has been put forward by palestinians, by arab leaders, by leaders in the west. we spoke on bbc news of the spanish foreign minister today. the way they see it, the only way forward that is going to work in terms of giving israel the security once, is to move away from an occupation and to move towards a palestinian state. but for many here who are still grieving, the views have hardened and right now it is a mood of revenge. let's go and get them and destroy them. we will maybe take a closer look at that political solution and what it might look like after the break. lyse doucet, good to talk to you. around the world and across the uk, you are watching bbc news.
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politicians in israel
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have frequently compared the massacre on october 7th to the holocaust. what you hear often hear from israelis is that no other country could tolerate this being done to them and not answer back. and western countries have stood behind israel's response. and yet the support for that response has some would say been squandered by the way the war has been conducted. at least 41,000 palestinians have been killed, twice as many wounded, 60% of the buildings in ruin. we will hear shortly from the palestinian side of the debate on the destruction hamas brought upon them. but first we are going to focus on the october 7th commemorations, on what has been an extremely sombre day for everyone in israel. benjamin netanyahu benjamin neta nyahu has benjamin netanyahu has been speaking in the last hour, take a listen. translation: we are not deterred, _ a listen. translation: we are not deterred, we _ a listen. translation: we are not deterred, we have - a listen. translation: we are not deterred, we have stood i not deterred, we have stood strongly together to defend and
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protect our homeland. whatever strength was needed, we defined what the objectives of this war was. we want to eradicate hamas and bring our hostages home, whether they are alive or not. we must thwart any future threat on the state of israel and bring the residents of the north and south in safety to their homes.— north and south in safety to their homes. , , , their homes. lets pick up some ofthat their homes. lets pick up some of that nova — miri eisin is a? ?retired colonel from the israel defense forces, now managing director of the international institute for counter—terrorism. welcome to the programme. in your opinion, has israel restored the deterrence that was lost on october the 7th? the response have been overwhelming, but does it change fundamentally the threat of the danger that israel was facing before october the seven? �* ., . seven? before october the 7th we did not _ seven? before october the 7th we did not have _ seven? before october the 7th we did not have deterrence - we did not have deterrence because if we did, hamas would not have been able to do and
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would have chosen to do what they did. hamas planned it for years. one thing we need to face in our own failure is that for hamas to plan such an attack and to enact it, we did not have deterrence against them. it will remind us all that hezbollah were planning the same kind of attack only hezbollah at ten times stronger with ten times more capabilities, so i would say in the last year we have been rebuilding deterrence. are we there yet? sadly, when you talk in the language of the middle eastern, i will only talk about the terror armies, the deterrence i think that they understand is the harsh one. and i don't think we are there yet, and i think it is very sad. ~ . , ,, sad. mr netanyahu still speaks vauuel sad. mr netanyahu still speaks vaguely of _ sad. mr netanyahu still speaks vaguely of a — sad. mr netanyahu still speaks vaguely of a de-radicalised - vaguely of a de—radicalised gaza. what does that mean chris mackie is not set out how that will be achieved and what will it like looking for you? it is
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totally different, _ totally different, demilitarised and de—radicalised. from a military point of view, de—militarised is when they are is no carrying of weapons and whoever is the responsible authority there. israel has said consistently and most of the opposition let your dears, israel does not want to run the gaza strip, they would like it to be someone else. you you get into the challenging politics, this government has said no to the palestinian authority, i do support the palestinian authority, not that anyone is asking me. a lot of the opposition leaders do as well. the demilitarised, the ones they're holding the weapon is, you want to try to get the weapons that hamas have amassed, they have a lot of installations, they made the weapons there. it is notjust smuggling them in. when you talk about de—radicalised, can ifor a moment talk talk about de—radicalised, can i for a moment talk to the world. de—radicalised is to make sure that when you teach people, young people, to hate,
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when you dehumanise the other side, then they don't see them as human. and that attack on october seven, and today is a very difficult day, i'm very easy and talking and today i find it hard, because it was the dehumanising aspect of what happened on october seven that we still don't know how to face, because that is part of the de—radicalisation. and that sadly has been spread all over the world in the last year in a way i in my lifetime never thought i would see. the dehumanising, delegitimising aspect against israelis, jews, everyone worldwide. you would understand _ everyone worldwide. you would understand that _ everyone worldwide. you would understand that your _ everyone worldwide. you would understand that your critics - understand that your critics would say the numbers that are killed and the destruction wreaked on gaza that the israeli forces have to an extent dehumanised and de—legitimised palestinian civilians living in gaza. what the europeans are saying and
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what the biden administration privately perhaps is saying, is that that is not the way to do it. you have the united nations refugee chief saying on sunday that international law has been violated in lebanon, you are killing innocent civilians, and that, in the end, becomes counter—productive. that, in the end, becomes counter-productive. christian, my heart _ counter-productive. christian, my heart goes _ counter-productive. christian, my heart goes out _ counter-productive. christian, my heart goes out to - counter-productive. christian, my heart goes out to every . my heart goes out to every uninvolved civilian in the gaza strip and in israel and uninvolved civilian in the gaza strip and in israeland in uninvolved civilian in the gaza strip and in israel and in the west bank and in lebanon. and christian, i don't think you would allow to have inside your house weapons underneath the children's bed. i don't think you would think it is ok to build underneath a school, underneath the un headquarters, underneath the un headquarters, underneath a hospital, underneath a hospital, underneath a hospital, underneath a mosque, the cache of weapons that hamas and hezbollah on the west bank have built. i don't know how we can contend otherwise, because when we go to war, we never target civilians, and i say that with notjust my heart and the way
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that goes in there, and ifeel that goes in there, and ifeel that that distance between the way hamas, hezbollah and the other terror organisations that they built themselves, notjust by living in the civilians, but by living in the civilians, but by wearing civilian clothes, but keeping all these horrific arsenals. it is horrific what is happening in beirut, i am going to agree with you. and as a military person, i will say that every time we attacked i watch and see what wiese called secondary explosions, these enormous arsenals of weapons held under the apartment buildings there. that is what hezbollah has put there. i say it very harshly, my heart can go out to every uninvolved civilian. we never target them and i won't be put on that same moral ground because we don't do so and it is as if it is equal, and my heart goes out. i agree, it is horrible when civilians, children, a mother, it is horrible. that is not what this war is about. look at these terror organisations and tell me what you would do. again, as i said before, would
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you have this in your living room, children's room and underneath your mosque? finally, i guess the extension of what you are saying and how you refer to the proxies, the logic of that is taking on iran, the former israeli ministry of defence says now is the time to confront them. would you support an attack on the nuclear facilities on would you support an attack on the nuclearfacilities on iran? christian, you are giving me the platform of the bbc. why is this about israel? why is the islamic regime of iran destabilising all of the middle east, supplying all of these weapons, that missile before that you talked about that was fired today from yemen. to me, this islamic regime of iran is something the world can face. can you imagine where we would be right now if this regime was nuclear? this is not about me wanting more. i do not want war ever, i did not ask for october seven. i think that israel for a large degree thought we were
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deterring, but part of that is also because we do not want war. and here we are in a war and what we have been told is to hold back, they are behind civilians, hold back. iran is behind it all, but hold back. where is the rest of the world? the islamic regime destabilising everybody. what about the world getting on board. it was said today that israel is on its way doubt, calling us the cancer of the world. i will call that and say the islamic regime, you are the destabilise of the world. we will aet destabilise of the world. we will get reaction to that later in the programme. thank you for coming on. that is the israeli take. but as you know, what happened on october seventh has had huge ramifcations for the palestinian people as well. let's hear now from manuel hassassian, head of the palestinian mission to denmark. very welcome to the programme, thank you for coming on. what is october the 7th mean to you? october seven of means to me
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the perpetuation of the onslaught and israeli occupation and the reoccupation of gaza, the west bank and east jerusalem. this is what reminds me. nobody talks about the essence of this conflict which started almost 70 years ago. the history of palestine started on october seven when this kind of act that took place with the overreaction of the israeli occupation by threatening gaza, by killing more than 41,000 people in gaza, by now trying to flatten southern lebanon and killing children and what have you. trying basically to create hunger and starvation to the people in gaza with 17,000 children who has been massacred by the israelis. nobody talks about this, everybody talks about this, everybody talks about october seven as if the
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war started october seven and this conflict, the inception of which started almost 70 years ago with the occupation. the rest of historic palestine, nobody talks about the colonialist occupation policy of israel that triggered all kind of reaction against it. right. | kind of reaction against it. right. i take your point that the roots of this go a long way back, but there is a number of proxies around israel. and just today, hezbollah issued a statement that said israel is cancerous and must be eliminated. why would israel stop when that is the motivation of its near neighbour?— motivation of its near neiuhbour? ~ ., neighbour? well, the reaction is very simple- _ neighbour? well, the reaction is very simple. the _ neighbour? well, the reaction is very simple. the israelis . is very simple. the israelis have been killing hezbollah's leaders, and they have been trying to keep on bombarding southern lebanon and killing people indiscriminately. what
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you expect from a resistance movement to say what they have said? do movement to say what they have said? , ., movement to say what they have said? ,, ., movement to say what they have said? i. ., ., , movement to say what they have said? ., ., ,~ ., said? do you have any criticism for the likes _ said? do you have any criticism for the likes of _ said? do you have any criticism for the likes of the _ said? do you have any criticism for the likes of the leader - said? do you have any criticism for the likes of the leader of. for the likes of the leader of the military wing of hamas. more than 42,000 palestinian killed as you say, many of them civilians. almost 60% of the buildings destroyed. is that the vision that the leader of the vision that the leader of the military wing has in mind for his people? 1? the military wing has in mind for his people?— for his people? 17 years of total boycotts. _ for his people? 17 years of total boycotts. 17 - for his people? 17 years of total boycotts. 17 years i for his people? 17 years of total boycotts. 17 years of| total boycotts. 17 years of people living, 2.2 million under israeli open air prison camp. what do you expect the reaction of the people will be? do you think they will sit idle and expect to be dead through starvation and dead through bombing and what have you not to have a resistance? regardless of what hamas did on october seven, why don't we go
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back to the root cause of the problem? which is ending occupation and everything will be ok. but israel wants to create... excuses in order to continue in control. 5.6 million people living under occupation and to justify that that israel is defending itself. this is not acceptable. where does this end when it comes to international law is? where does this end when all have been condemning israel as an occupying power? where does this end when it tries with impunity to continue massacring the palestinians? where is the international community in fulfilling all these obligations of international law against israel? we don't see that. ~ . law against israel? we don't see that-— see that. we are right up auainst see that. we are right up against the _ see that. we are right up against the break, i i see that. we are right up against the break, i am | see that. we are right up i against the break, i am sorry to cut you short. we are right up to cut you short. we are right up against the break. you're watching the bbc, stay with us,
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we will be right back. good evening. it's been a pleasant autumn day in the sunshine, but shower clouds gathered as we went through the afternoon. that's going to be the story over the next few days. in actualfact, we keep the showery theme and the mild theme. but towards the end of the week, cooler winds and stronger winds are set to arrive. so we've still got this area of low pressure with us at the moment, and that's driving these frontal systems around that area of low. so for the next few hours we could see some really intense thundery downpours developing, moving out of south west england and wales, up into the midlands and the north of england. they will continue to push their way steadily northwards during the early hours of thursday morning, further showers tucking into the southwest with the cloud and the showers around we keep double digits. a slightly cooler start into scotland so first thing tomorrow morning we've got that rain through northern ireland, northern england drifting towards the scottish borders. this is the dividing line. we've got this cool northeasterly flow developing in scotland, a little bit quieter and drier here but not quite as mild further south.
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plenty of frequent showers. again, we can't rule out the odd rumble of thunder, but in the sunnier moments it will still be pleasantly warm for this stage of the year. now, i'm sure you've heard us talking about hurricane kirk and the impact that that's going to have across the uk. it's lost its hurricane status. it's moving across the cooler waters, still set to push to the south of the uk, impacting northern spain and france. but we're still going to feel the effects of this storm because as it continues to drift its way steadily east, that's going to allow that cooler air to push the warm air back to the near continent. so as we go through the day on wednesday, there's still a risk of some heavy rain and rough seas close to the channel islands and the kent coast. a northerly wind will drive in a few scattered showers across the north sea coast as well, the cool air not really arriving yet. 14 to 17 degrees here, but noticeably colder in scotland. and as we go out of wednesday into thursday, gale force gusts of winds are going to push
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plenty of frequent showers steadily south. there will be some sunny spells, but it will be a cooler story for all. and in fact, temperatures are likely to peak between eight and 12 degrees, a little bit below par for where we should be at this stage in october. and then as we move through friday into saturday, a brief ridge of high pressure builds across england and wales quietening things down.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. one year on — events are held around the world to commemorate the victims of hamas's october the 7th attack on israel. just before we move on, let me show you the life pictures i am looking at in the studio of the northern border in israel. this is looking towards lebanon. in fact, these are pictures right now of southern beirut, and we have been watching a number of flashes at the bottom of the screen you may be up to pick out some red smoke. those attacks on southern beirut continuing this evening. with keep our eyes on those pictures, and those on the south of the border where we have seen plenty of activity. we'll talk more about the,
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