good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. our headlines today... as the war in the middle east enters its second year, the lebanese government says more than 400,000 people have now fled to neighbouring syria to escape israeli strikes. a double—decker bus carrying more than a0 school children crashes in county down — four children are taken to hospital. water companies in england and wales will find out later this morning if they will have to refund customers for failing to hit performance targets. the actor david jason reflects on his career — telling us about his hopes, his regrets and he had why he can never escape from del boy. i'm delighted in one way, that it's reached so many people and they've enjoyed what i've done with the character, but i've done so many other things that they seem — everybody seems to have forgotten about and it's only —

i've only ever played derek trotter. good morning. we are months away from new rules that will see manufacturers rather than the local council pay for recycling like this. the government says it will help fund a greener economy. businesses say it will be them and you footing the bill. in sport, the future of the manchester united manager erik ten hag will be decided today as club executives meet later — it follows the club's worst start to a premier league season. good morning. for the next couple of days we are looking at a mixture of sunshine and showers. some of those will be heavy and thundery. then we will be heavy and thundery. then we will pull in a northerly wind and it will pull in a northerly wind and it will feel much colder than it has done. i will have all the details shortly. it's tuesday 8th october. our main story. the israeli military has carried out further air strikes on hezbollah targets in the lebanese capital, beirut, overnight, following a day

of commemorations marking the first anniversary of the attacks by hamas. the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, says the military campaign against hamas and hezbollah — which are both designated as terrorist organisations by the uk — will continue for as long as his country's existence is threatened. it comes as the lebanese government says more than a million people have now been displaced by the fighting. joe inwood reports. beirut — plunged into darkness by this spreading war. huge swathes of the city illuminated only by the explosions of incoming missiles. israel says it is hezbollah positions it's targeting. the people of this city caught in the middle. many are trying to flee — either to safer parts of the country, or to neighbouring syria. at the main border crossing — recently destroyed by an israeli air strike — the journey is now made on foot.

people who fled a civil war in their own country on the move once again. they went to lebanon to escape the war in syria. they are now going back to syria, escaping the war in lebanon. so it gives a sense of the tragic absurdity of the situation that we are living. as civilians move out, ground forces move in. these pictures, released by the israeli defense forces, show the 9ist division preparing and then entering lebanon. singing. in israel, it was a night of commemoration as the country remembered the events of the 7th of october, the hamas massacre that lit the touchpaper on this spreading war. "the battle must not stop ahead of time," said the prime minister. "as long as the enemy is threatening our existence

and our country's safety, we will keep fighting. "as long as our hostages are in gaza, we will keep fighting." but the official government ceremony was not the only commemoration. in tel aviv, the families of the hostages — around 100 of whom remain in gaza — held their own event with a very different tone. they have often been fiercely critical of the prime minister, and what they see as his focus on fighting a war, rather than bringing theirfamilies home. "exactly one year ago, the most beautiful place — a place filled with joy and hope — turned into hell," he says. "in a single moment, we understood the meaning of being alone." but it was notjust commemorations that were heard in tel aviv last night — the sound of air—raid sirens, followed by distant explosions — a reminder that, as this war enters its second year, it is spreading, still. joe inwood, bbc news.

0ur middle east correspondent hugo bachega is in beirut. after those air strikes over southern lebanon on last night, what is the situation like there now? morning. today marks one year since hezbollah started firing rockets at israel saying it was acting in solidarity with palestinians in gaza and now 11 on is at the centre of this war —— lebanon is the centre of the work. conflict that has killed more than 2000 people and forced more than 2000 people and forced more than 2000 people and forced more than 1.2 million from their homes. yesterday was a day of intense israeli air strikes in the south. the israeli military said more than 120 hezbollah positions were targeted and the lebanese health ministry said that in one of those tax at least ten firefighters

were killed, so a growing number of rescue teams, medical teams being killed by those israeli air strikes. hezbollah has continued to fire rockets at israel, most yesterday were intercepted by the israeli military. here in beirut, again, the capital was targeted by those israeli air strikes. yesterday we saw an israeli air strike, a huge explosion, but also the destruction caused by weeks of israeli air strikes. buildings that have been flattened, many others were severely damaged. this was once the beating heart of hezbollah in the capital and it is now completely deserted. thanks very much indeed. jon has more of the news including the latest on that school bus crash yesterday. dramatic pictures, won't they? four children have been treated in hospital after their double—decker school bus

overturned in county down. police are investigating the circumstances behind the crash. 0ur ireland correspondent chris page reports. the bus toppled over within a few terrifying seconds. very quickly afterwards, there was the rescue, and huge relief. 43 pupils were on board. 0ne12—year—old boy told us he was sitting on the upper deck when the crash happened. we started going down that hill and then we just tipped sideways. so i closed my eyes and ijust, like, opened them and i was just laying on the bus floor. people came down and they were smashing the windows and stuff. the farmers. i was, like, crawling under the bars and the school bags were on the floor and stuff. he rung me a couple of minutes before to see if his friend could come, and then he rung back and he wasjust screaming, "the bus has crashed, the bus has crashed!" and everyone was screaming in the background behind him, and it was deafening. and ijust ran out of my house — i've still got my slippers on. got a bit of a banged—up head, but — and a sore arm — but he's here and he's 0k.

paramedics, firefighters and the northern ireland air ambulance were all involved in getting pupils out of the bus and giving medical treatment. most of the schoolchildren on the bus either sustained minor injuries or weren't hurt, but four passengers have been taken to hospital. it's believed none of their injuries are life—threatening. the pupils attend this secondary school nearby. they'll be offered counselling in the coming days. for now, children, parents and teachers are immensely thankful there wasn't even more serious harm. chris page, bbc news, in county down. in the united states, the democrats' presidential candidate kamala harris has slammed her republican rival donald trump for his position over the war in ukraine. in a wide—ranging interview, one month before voters go to the polls, the current vice president was pressed on a number of issues including the conflict in the middle east, immigration, and gun laws.

would you meet with president vladimir putin to negotiate a solution to the war in ukraine? not bilaterally without ukraine. no. ukraine must have a say in the future of ukraine. donald trump — if he were president — putin would be sitting in kyiv right now. he talks about, oh, he can end it on day one. you know what that is? it's about surrender. water companies in england and wales are due to find out later if they'll be forced to refund customers for failing to hit targets. it comes ahead of a new report by the regulator 0fwat later, which looks at how firms have performed in a number of areas. here's our environment correspondent, jonah fisher. for the 17 water and waste water companies in england and wales, this is their end—of—year report. and they know it's unlikely to be pleasant reading.

0fwat, the regulator, has marked their work against a series of performance targets, such as reducing leaks and pollution incidents, as well as customer satisfaction, and whether drinking water kept coming out of the taps. what we really need to see are severe penalties that incentivise investment in the water infrastructure by water companies. we need to see the law enforced so that any form of pollution is prosecuted where it should be, and maybe even criminal prosecutions being levied against the leaders of water companies. and we need to see the regulators themselves given their teeth back — we need to see funding given by the treasury so the environment agency and 0fwat can do theirjob and hold polluters to account. if they do badly, the regulator could instruct them to refund millions of pounds to their customers. last year, they had to give more than £100 million back. the water companies say that 0fwat is part of the problem. they say they're waiting for the regulator to approve big increases in customer bills, to pay for tens of billions of pounds of investment in infrastructure over the next five years. jonah fisher, bbc news.

a powerful hurricane heading towards the us state of florida has intensified to a dangerous category 5 storm. large numbers of people are leaving the city of tampa in response to increasingly dramatic warnings from the authorities about the threat posed by hurricane milton, which is expected to make landfall tomorrow. a 12—year—old girl has sustained life—changing injuries following a dog attack in brynmawr in south wales. two people arrested in connection with yesterday's incident remain in custody. officers say the dog, which has been detained, will now be destroyed. the bus operator go—ahead has announced plans to build hundreds of electric buses here in the uk. the company says the half a billion pounds of investment will support 500 manufacturing jobs and speed up the move to a zero—emission fleet.

conservative mps will eliminate another candidate from the party's leadership contest today. 0ur political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminsterfor us. it isa it is a bit like a reality show, this, isn't it? week by week we lose one but how many do we go down to today? we one but how many do we go down to toda ? ~ ., ., ., ., today? we go from four to three today? we go from four to three toda and today? we go from four to three today and it _ today? we go from four to three today and it is _ today? we go from four to three today and it is a _ today? we go from four to three today and it is a reality - today? we go from four to three today and it is a reality show- today? we go from four to three today and it is a reality show butj today and it is a reality show but one in which we have had a whole bunch of rounds in which there was no voting. that was the conservative conference we just had, where all the candidates put themselves forward. now we get to crunch point where those last four whittled down to three today stop two tomorrow and those two will be put forward to the conservative party. the four either, essentially you have a choice for the members. the two who i sort of leading the pack in the last round of the votes of mps, robertjenrick and kemi badenoch, both from the right of the party will start the two who were following up, tom

tugendhat and james cleverly, seen as more centrist. question four mps, critical —— question for the mp5, what direction do they want to question what one will be eliminated today. the sense is it is likely to be tom tugendhat but the real question for conservative mps is tomorrow and who do they put through tomorrow and who do they put through to the final two to be put to the party? that will have a huge impact on defining future brand of conservatism we get in the coming years. conservatism we get in the coming ears. ., ., ., ~ ,, , conservatism we get in the coming ears. ., ., . ~ , . years. for now, thank you very much indeed for the coverage _ years. for now, thank you very much indeed for the coverage of— years. for now, thank you very much indeed for the coverage of those - indeed for the coverage of those events. 0n yesterday's breakfast we told you about the amputee lionesses who were hoping to represent england in the first ever amputee women's world cup — but they needed to raise £50,000. well, their fundraising total doubled within a few hours of that report going out — making it possible for the team to book their flights and hopefully

bring the trophy home. definitely! i love that optimism. we'll be speaking to one of them, annabel kiki, at around 20 past nine. that really is a story to make you feel good. it that really is a story to make you feel aood. , ., , that really is a story to make you feel good-— feel good. it is, it was touch and no and feel good. it is, it was touch and go and they _ feel good. it is, it was touch and go and they thought _ feel good. it is, it was touch and go and they thought they - feel good. it is, it was touch and go and they thought they might | feel good. it is, it was touch and i go and they thought they might not be able to get to columbia stop and also they are really good, really, really good and have a good chance. carol has the weather this morning. blue skies! good morning. some will see blue skies today, there is sunshine around but also some showers and some will be heavy and thundery with some will be heavy and thundery with some hail. gusty winds around them, as well. we start with mist and fog across southern scotland. we also have a weather front which is slowly moving northwards, taking its rain across northern england, heavy across northern england, heavy across the north pennines, getting into southern scotland and northern ireland. furthersouth, heavy ireland. further south, heavy showers ireland. furthersouth, heavy

showers can begin across the south—west at the moment, they will drift eastwards through the course of the day. further showers behind them. in between, some sunshine but gusty winds, hail and that thunder i mentioned further north into scotland. cloudy and some showery rain in the far north, and the winds picking appear. they will also pick up picking appear. they will also pick up in the south—west and through the english channel today. temperatures ten to 18 degrees north to south. through the evening and overnight, low pressure still in charge of our weather and we have the showers and rain rotating around it. note the northerly wind coming in, starting to feel cold here. but we still have a southerly wind, quite a gusty one, across the south. into tomorrow, low pressure continues to pull away into the north sea and in doing so it is dragging the rain and showers with it. it will brighten up in western areas but these are the wind gusts. more of us will be exposed to that

northerly wind, so it will feel quite chilly. these are the temperatures. a in lerwick, nine in aberdeen and a top temperature of about 16 as we sweep down to london. after that, about 16 as we sweep down to london. afterthat, it about 16 as we sweep down to london. after that, it turns colder and you really will notice it. there will be a wind—chill and our temperatures at best around eight, nine, we might just squeeze out and 11 and it will be cold by night. it is just squeeze out and 11 and it will be cold by night.— just squeeze out and 11 and it will be cold by night. it is time for the bi duvet! be cold by night. it is time for the big duvet! thank _ be cold by night. it is time for the big duvet! thank you. _ be cold by night. it is time for the big duvet! thank you. the - be cold by night. it is time for the big duvet! thank you. the blue i be cold by night. it is time for the| big duvet! thank you. the blue sky was a complete — big duvet! thank you. the blue sky was a complete con _ big duvet! thank you. the blue sky was a complete con at _ big duvet! thank you. the blue sky was a complete con at the - big duvet! thank you. the blue sky i was a complete con at the beginning of the _ was a complete con at the beginning of the weather stop you are not at all! sunshine and showers! we will not all— all! sunshine and showers! we will not all see — all! sunshine and showers! we will not all see them. we read the small print _ let's take a look at today's papers. many of the front pages reflect on the one—year anniversary of hamas' deadly 7th october attacks. the guardian has the headline "the pain will never leave" as israel held ceremonies yesterday to remember the victims

who were killed and abducted at the nova music festival. while the i leads with a story that the prime minister has refused to rule out british military involvement if israel attacks iran. the paper reports that sir keir starmer refused to confirm that no british personnel or air bases would be used in israel's response to iranian missiles. the world is waiting to see what the response will be to those attacks last week. "coroner calls for urgent action to prevent more me deaths" is the headline on the front of the times. the health secretary and nhs officials are asked to address what the paper calls the "non—existent" care available to people with me following the death of 27—year—old maeve boothby o'neill. we'll speak to maeve's mum, sarah, later on the programme. and finally, the daily star leads with speculation over whether nessa and smithy from the bbc�*s gavin & stacey will finally tie the knot

in a special one—off episode airing on christmas day. they have had photographers at the doors of every property in barry island, i think, doors of every property in barry island, ithink, overthe doors of every property in barry island, i think, over the last few weeks as filming has gone on. they have seen a few things, i won't say it here. you don't want to spoil it ljy it here. you don't want to spoil it by the body. it doesn't spoil anything, it is, did this mean, did we see that?— anything, it is, did this mean, did we see that? , , ., �* ., we see that? they 'ust don't need to look at the photo — we see that? theyjust don't need to look at the photo we _ we see that? theyjust don't need to look at the photo we just _ we see that? theyjust don't need to look at the photo we just showed - look at the photo we just showed everybody on tv. it is cold season. everybody is ill. everybody on tv. it is cold season. everybody is ill— everybody on tv. it is cold season. everybody is ill-_ everybody on tv. it is cold season. everybody is ill-— everybody is ill. apart from us so far. everybody is ill. apart from us so far- might _ everybody is ill. apart from us so far- might be _ everybody is ill. apart from us so far. might be a _ everybody is ill. apart from us so far. might be a reason _ everybody is ill. apart from us so far. might be a reason for - everybody is ill. apart from us so far. might be a reason for that. l everybody is ill. apart from us so far. might be a reason for that. i | far. might be a reason for that. i am definitely not ill. a report in the paper that she will love. whether men and women suffer during a cold in a different way. it is a man flu real?— a cold in a different way. it is a man flu real? blokes get it much harder, man flu real? blokes get it much harder. don't _ man flu real? blokes get it much harder, don't we?! _

man flu real? blokes get it much harder, don't we?! 0h, - man flu real? blokes get it much harder, don't we?! 0h, jon! - harder, don't we?! 0h, jon! according — harder, don't we?! 0h, jon! according to _ harder, don't we?! 0h, jon! according to an _ harder, don't we?! 0h, jon! i according to an immunologist harder, don't we?! 0h, jon! - according to an immunologist men feel the symptoms more than women because women tend to have more robust immune systems. man flu is real! . ., , , ., real! real... in that we suffer more or a that we — real! real... in that we suffer more or a that we overreact _ real! real... in that we suffer more or a that we overreact more? - real! real... in that we suffer more l or a that we overreact more? women are tougher _ or a that we overreact more? women are tougher i _ or a that we overreact more? women are tougher i think— or a that we overreact more? women are tougher i think is _ or a that we overreact more? women are tougher i think is what _ or a that we overreact more? women are tougher i think is what they - or a that we overreact more? women are tougher i think is what they are i are tougher i think is what they are saying. my favourite thing, lots of vitamins c is a very good idea and can make your cold go away faster. in the times they have endless questions about what you need to know if you have a cold. my favourite is the one at the end. the question is, should ifeel guilty going back to bed? the answer, not at all. . , , , going back to bed? the answer, not at all-_ you - going back to bed? the answer, not at all._ you have . at all. that is the best. you have been told. _ at all. that is the best. you have been told, the _ at all. that is the best. you have been told, the times _ at all. that is the best. you have been told, the times says - at all. that is the best. you have been told, the times says go . at all. that is the best. you have i been told, the times says go back at all. that is the best. you have - been told, the times says go back to bed. �* . . been told, the times says go back to bed. ~ .. �* it's more than a0 years since the nation was first introduced to the wheeler dealer derek trotter — also known as del boy, in the hit bbc series only fools and horses,

which made david jason a household name. his character became known for his catchphrases and one liners — one of which has inspired his new candid memoir — this time next year — i went to meet him ahead of its release. his message of positivity. we chatted in a lovely stately home near where he lives, which is where he goes and does all his writing. thank you. laughter. the theme that you keep coming back to in the book is that you feel immensely lucky in life. now brace yourself, rodney. if you can find a job that you really enjoy doing, and it pays your wages to live properly — or to live — then you're 100% there in life. it's a couple of years since we last met and chatted on breakfast, and just after we met, you received what you describe in the book as the most astonishing

letter you've ever received in your life. take us to that moment when you open the envelope, and talk us through where it's led to in your life. well, yeah, it was a letter that took me by surprise, and it was from a daughter that i didn't know that i had. and it was a tremendous shock. but we've since been meeting and getting together, and we're fine, we're lovely. we're getting to know each other, which takes a bit of time, but, no, she's great, and it's very rewarding. and it was a total shock — you had no idea that she was out there? no. you called it a fling with another actor — what, nearly 50 years ago. yeah, yeah, it was a... it was a girlfriend. and that part never... i never knew about it. i went off to work in the theatre, and the girlfriend went off to work in her theatre and that was the end of it, really.

so... it sounds like you've really worked hard to navigate things with your wife and daughter, sophie, and your new—found daughter and grandson, and that it's all blending together as well as it could. yeah. you're right. my wife has been a tremendous help in this direction, and she's been extremely supportive. without that, i don't think i could have managed, quite honestly. but now, because of gill's reaction and her ability to understand has been a remarkable achievement on all our behalves. that sense of positivity sounds very like a certain derek trotter. yeah, i'm afraid it does. yeah. neverstop believing, eh, bruv? never stop believing.

that derek trotter thing who's like, a bit of a ghost that comes along behind me like a christmas carol. that's interesting that you're calling del boy a bit of a ghost in your life. what — do you feel you're a bit haunted by him? well, haunted is perhaps too... no. he's with me all the time — meaning, whether we call it haunted, i... i do say that he's on my back all the time, because wherever i go, people recognise me as that character. and you'll always get people saying, you know, "lovelyjubbly" and all of that. which only hangs me back and only upsets me slightly, because that seems to be the only thing that people remember me for. and that...

i'm delighted in one way, that it's reached so many people and they've enjoyed what i've done with the character, but i've done so many other things that they seem — everybody seems to have forgotten about and it's only — i've only ever played derek trotter. i think we're on a winner here, trig. all right? play it nice and cool, son. nice and cool. you know what i mean? my real disappointment — or regret, if you like, whichever way you want to put it — was i always wanted, when i was in the theatre, was to be a national theatre player. i always wanted to be on the stage of the national theatre. 0n the south bank. yeah. it was just that romantic image of playing in those big productions with all those big, wonderful actors. and...that never, never happened. so... it's never too late. yes, but i wonder whether the old memory would be quite good enough. you know?

i could do it with one of those, um... what do you call it? the autocue thing. the monitor. autocue! yeah, some of them do that now, don't they, for being prompted. yes. yeah. good. hey. sorry. yes? national theatre? i'm available. sir david jason, fantastic talking to you on breakfast, as ever. thank you so much for your time. thank you very much, jon. imean, i mean, they would be mad not to sign him up. he i mean, they would be mad not to sign him up-_ he i sign him up. he is brilliant. he still loves _ sign him up. he is brilliant. he still loves it. _ sign him up. he is brilliant. he still loves it. and _ sign him up. he is brilliant. he still loves it. and he _ sign him up. he is brilliant. he still loves it. and he is - sign him up. he is brilliant. he still loves it. and he is still- still loves it. and he is still ambitious. _ still loves it. and he is still ambitious. 84, _ still loves it. and he is still ambitious. 84, i— still loves it. and he is still ambitious. 84, ithink- still loves it. and he is still ambitious. 84, i think he i still loves it. and he is still. ambitious. 84, i think he has, almost 85. — ambitious. 84, i think he has, almost 85, but _ ambitious. 84, i think he has, almost 85, but still— ambitious. 84, i think he has, almost 85, but still exudes i ambitious. 84, i think he has, l almost 85, but still exudes this absolute joy about the business he loves and we tend to think of him as a tv star but he is an actor, a character actor.— a tv star but he is an actor, a character actor. clearly wants. he sa s he character actor. clearly wants. he says he is — character actor. clearly wants. he says he is haunted _ character actor. clearly wants. he says he is haunted by _ character actor. clearly wants. he says he is haunted by del - character actor. clearly wants. he says he is haunted by del boy - character actor. clearly wants. he says he is haunted by del boy butj says he is haunted by del boy but you watch those clips and they are so good. but

you watch those clips and they are so aood. �* , , you watch those clips and they are souood. �* , , ., so good. but it must be annoying if somebody says _ so good. but it must be annoying if somebody says lovely _ so good. but it must be annoying if somebody says lovely jubbly - so good. but it must be annoying if somebody says lovely jubbly to - so good. but it must be annoying if| somebody says lovely jubbly to your 20 times a day. somebody says lovely 'ubbly to your 20 times a aah somebody says lovely 'ubbly to your to times a aah 20 times a day. surely not. i love how ou 20 times a day. surely not. i love how you matched _ 20 times a day. surely not. i love how you matched tweed - 20 times a day. surely not. i love how you matched tweed jackets i 20 times a day. surely not. i love i how you matched tweed jackets with him. it how you matched tweed 'ackets with him. ., , ., how you matched tweed 'ackets with him. ., ., ., ,, ., david jason's memoir, this time next year: a life of positive thinking, is out this week. we will play a slightly longer interview later where he will reveal to breakfast the tv show that he made which you would like to bring back and he thinks it is possible. 0h! hang on...— back and he thinks it is possible. | oh! hang on..._ there back and he thinks it is possible. i ch! hang on..._ there is 0h! hang on... stay tuned. there is more tv coming? — it remained intact for centuries but now, a patch of snow believed to be the longest—lasting in the uk, has disappeared for the fourth consecutive year, as a result of our warming climate. the formation, located in the scottish cairngorms, is known as the sphinx and has been monitored since the 1700s — most recently by citizen scientist iain cameron, who's been documenting his latest visit to the site.

it is a pilgrimage. you're walking through this sort of almost sacred landscape. when you can go no farther, you come to here and it's like the altar. this is like the holy of holies as far as the snow—patch researcher is concerned. garbh choire mor, where the sphinx is located — it's the most isolated coire in the cairngorms. for the uninitiated, it can be a tricky place to deal with getting to. to start off with, we have a six—mile bikejourney. then we deposit the bikes and we go up about 2,000—foot climb up the side of braeriach onto the braeriach plateau, and from there it's about another mile and a half across the plateau. and then we drop into a quite a steep gully using a little bit of rope which drops us down into the coire. so it's a bit of an expedition to get here, that's for sure. oh, wow. we're...literallyjust in the nick of time. the sphinx is tiny.

i wasn't sure, actually, it was still going to be here, but...it is, but barely, and it's not going to last past probably midnight tonight. this is the patch of snow that, historically speaking, was known to endure through decades and decades — even hundreds of years — without melting. 1933 was the first time it melted, and then again in 1959 — so 26 years later. what we've seen in the last ten years is unprecedented. so it disappeared in 2017, 2018, 2021, '22, '23 - and '24, this is what's left. the direction of travel is obvious. the sphinx is no longer persisting anything like the way it used to do. this is really significant because it is the place that has been monitored the longest. i'm not a climatologist — in fact, i'm not even an academic. i do this as — i would classify it as citizen science. so me and people like me will go

out, we'll record it and we'll write about it for the royal meteorological society. it's like coming to see an old relative — you know, you hope that when you get over the hill, it's going to be in good nick and a fair size, but...inevitably, more and more, you're actually quite sad because it's generally a lot smaller than you'd hope it would be. it seems, at least to me, very clear that this is a direct and visual impact of what climate change is actually doing. ian cameron, citizen scientists. making a real difference. we]!!! ian cameron, citizen scientists. making a real difference. well done to him. coming up... we'll catch up with the sub—postmasters who've been recognised for their tireless campaigning for the victims of the post office scandal, at yesterday's women of the year awards. time now to get the news,

travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. passengers that use euston station have told bbc london they're concerned overcrowding that happens in the station is dangerous. network rail is carrying out a review of the station and has already stopped advertising on a new screen on the concourse. passengers say the overcrowding happens regularly. it's just always a crush. and what's awful is there's no sort of predictable time that, you know, is going to be busier than other times. and they announce the trains like two minutes before you have to get on it. it's always a massive surge. i've had it multiple times i've not been able to get on the train. and it is actuallyjust dangerous. you're so hemmed in, you can't get back out of the station. you've got no chance of getting through. a decision on whether to go ahead with a £9 billion road crossing between kent and essex has been delayed until may. the initial deadline for a decision on the lower thames

crossing was due to be last friday. work on the project started in 2009, and more than £800 million has been spent on planning. the stirling prize is considered to be the most prestigious architectural award in the country and this year, four of the six nominations are in london. the winner will be announced next week and ahead of the awards, bbc london is visiting all of the capital's nominations. one of those is the redevelopment of kings cross preserving the victorian industrial buildings and infrastructure. the gas holders were originally south of the canal. they are now behind us north of the canal. they were dismantled like a piece of meccano, and then they were re—erected and inside the frame, instead of the original gas drum, it's now a drum of apartment buildings. a new statue will be unveiled today of london actor daniel kaluuya. the depiction of the academy award winning actor willjoin statues showcasing the best of british film as part of the scenes in the square

trail in leicester square. the sculpture will show an iconic moment from jordan peele's get out. let's take a look at the tubes now. the northern line has minor delays and the 0verground is part closed, other lines running well. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. it is another day of sunshine and showers. today's showers, you might get some rumbles of thunder, some hail mixed into it but we still have some sunny spells as well. the showers becoming quite frequent, especially through the afternoon. a moderate southerly breeze but the temperature today, despite the downpours, despite the breeze, still getting up to 18 celsius which is above average for the time of year. now, overnight tonight, we will see further showers rumbling through the evening. beginning to fade as we head through the early hours, becoming a little drier, minimum temperature dropping down to 11 celsius. still a fair amount of cloud in the morning, but that should break, we'll get a few sunny spells, some showers also for wednesday

but there is less risk of any thunder through the course of tomorrow. temperatures on wednesday reaching around 17 celsius. the wind is going to start to strengthen towards the end of the day, then overnight into thursday pick up, quite a brisk northerly wind and that wind is going to feel chilly. should see some sunshine on thursday but temperatures much cooler. that's it, i'll be back to with another update in around half an hour. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. after a day of commemorations marking the first anniversary of the hamas attacks on israel, the conflict in the middle east has continued overnight. the israeli military has carried out further air strikes on hezbollah targets in southern lebanon with plumes of smoke seen across the beirut skyline and loud explosions heard across the city. in a defiant speech, israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, said his country would continue to fight as long as its existence was threatened.

air raid sirens could also be heard in central israel as long range missiles were launched towards tel aviv overnight. hezbollah said it had targeted a military base on the outskirts of the city. the lebanese government said more than1 million people have been displaced by the fighting, and more than 400,000 people have fled across the border to syria. 0ur reporter tim muffett has been speaking to two fathers, one palestinian and one israeli, who have both lost daughters in this ongoing conflict but have joined together to help other families and promote peace and reconciliation. we combine our pain in the most positive way possible. for their memory we try to bring for their memory we try to bring life and not death for more kids. life and not death for more kids. rami and bassam both lost daughters rami and bassam both lost daughters in the most horrific circumstances. in the most horrific circumstances. i lost my 14—year—old daughter, i lost my 14—year—old daughter, smadar, in a hamas suicide smadar, in a hamas suicide

bombing in jerusalem. bombing in jerusalem. she was very beautiful. she was a swimmer, she was a dancer, she was amazing. everybody used to call her the princess. she was killed because she wasjewish. i lost my ten—year—old daughter, abeer. israeli border police shoot and kill her in front of her school. she had a very short life. the pain is there 24 hours.

we have the moral authority to raise up our voice and to say, no more blood. there is one thing that unites us, israelis and palestinians together, to bring all this message that we have to stop this endless cycle of violence. how do you go about trying to do that? the only way is to do what me and bassam and the hundreds of bereaved families of the parents circle are doing every day. we go, we speak, we shout out loud, we convey this message that it can be different, that there is another way. you have to be able to respect the guy next to you exactly as you want to be respected. i think we are the majority, the people who want peace. we met the pope about a month ago and we talked to him. we told him exactly the same message and he cried. 0ur message has become

our life, 24 hours. simply because we are caring about other kids, our children. we want to protect them. rami, you lost your daughter in 1997. bassam, you lost your daughter in 2007. there will be many people, though, who've lost loved ones in the last few months, weeks or even days and they may be feeling intense hatred or anger. what do you say to them? we understand, and we respect the anger of people who lost their loved ones, and we offer the ability to listen, and we offer the ability to meet the other side, which is the most important thing. through our activities, through our meetings, many people find themselves in this place and they come to join us. just in the last year, more than 100 families, israelis and palestinians, joined the parent circle. this is such a long term problem, and it's been especially difficult over the past 12 months, and even more so over

the past week or so. have there been moments when you've doubted whether peace is actually possible? i feel it to my inner bones that it is possible. and this is the essence of our message. we are not the first or the last conflict on earth. it's not written anywhere that we are going to continue killing each other forever. i have no doubt that this will end. i think our message is above religion, is above nationality. we are speaking out of our hearts, out of the pain, out of the price that we have paid to create hope. we are family. we are very connected to each other. we deserve to live normal life. 0ur beloved daughters, we hope they are proud of us.

that report was from tim muffett. at 10am on bbc radio 5 live, our correspondents lyse doucet and paul adams will answer some of your questions on the current conflict in the middle east. jeremy bowen willjoin us here in an hour as well. full coverage on that ongoing conflict on the bbc news website and channel. brute ongoing conflict on the bbc news website and channel.— ongoing conflict on the bbc news website and channel. we are talking about manchester _ website and channel. we are talking about manchester united, _ website and channel. we are talking about manchester united, is - website and channel. we are talking about manchester united, is this i website and channel. we are talking about manchester united, is this a i about manchester united, is this a significant moment for erik ten hag? i think so, a big significant moment for erik ten hag? ithink so, a big meeting significant moment for erik ten hag? i think so, a big meeting today certainly as far as manchester united and their supporters are concerned. his future will be discussed. abs, concerned. his future will be discussed-— concerned. his future will be discussed. �* , ., concerned. his future will be discussed. . , . ., concerned. his future will be discussed. . ., ., discussed. a planned meeting, not a s-ecial discussed. a planned meeting, not a special meeting? _ discussed. a planned meeting, not a special meeting? not _ discussed. a planned meeting, not a special meeting? not an _ special meeting? not an extraordinary _ special meeting? not an extraordinary meeting, i special meeting? not an | extraordinary meeting, it special meeting? not an - extraordinary meeting, it hasn't been brought about as a result of what has happened on the field but the way that things have been going on the way the pressure has mounted on the way the pressure has mounted on their manager, the figurehead of

the club, what are they going to do? it's such an awkward time. it’s a it's such an awkward time. it's a difficult time _ it's such an awkward time. it's a difficult time but _ it's such an awkward time. it's a difficult time but inevitably i it's such an awkward time. it's a difficult time but inevitably it i difficult time but inevitably it will be front and centre. good morning. the future of manchester united manager erik ten hag will be discussed at a meeting of club executives later. it follows the club's worst start to a premier league season. co—owner sirjim ratcliffe is expected to be in attendance at the planned meeting along with other heads of united's football department. it follows two draws last week — one in europe the other in the premier league, in what was billed as a week to save his job. david moyes was previously sacked by united after replacing sir alex ferguson and understands the pressure that comes with thejob. well, i've been there, and i know it is an unbelievable club with a lot of pressure. a lot of people want to talk about it. for me is the biggest club in the world which is talked about. whatever city you go into. it comes with the territory, and manchester united want to win, the supporters want to win, and every

manager there who goes into the job wants to win as well. both the premier league and manchester city have claimed victories in the case the champions brought against the league's governing body, a case unrelated to the 115 charges being heard against city for breaching financial regulations. their legal challenge was around the sponsorship rules clubs have to stick to in deals with companies linked to a club's owners. the premier league claimed the verdict had been a victory for them, because it "upheld the need for these associated party transaction rules". city however feel vindicated after it was ruled they were unfairly blocked from agreeing two huge sponsorship deals earlier this year. england made it two wins from two at the women's t20 world cup. it follows a seven wicket win over south africa in sharjah. player of the match sophie eccleston took two wickets including that of captain and top scorer laura wolvaardt to limit south africa to 124 for six.

england were always in control of their run chase and nat sciver brunt hit the winning runs to finish on 48 not out as england reached their target with four balls to spare. next up, scotland on sunday. i think that was a really controlled with, and i think the way we controlled the middle overs when they were batting and really restricted them. the pitch was slightly better the other day but still thought it was going to be a tricky chase. obviously been really tough to chase here. i just thought we controlled that chase brilliantly. nat, very cool, calm head, as well as dani, just that partnership was outstanding to watch. ireland avoided a series whitewash by south africa with a convincing victory in the third one day international. having lost the first two games ireland set south africa a hefty target of 285 to win in abu dhabi but they were all out for 215. ireland winning by 69 runs. graham hume got three wickets including the last one here. it's only the second time ireland have beaten south africa in an 0di.

it was last year a certain luke littler was preparing to put darts front and centre following his dramatic run to the final of the world darts championship. two months out from it getting underway he crashed out of the first round of the world grand prix, the 17—year—old losing to former world champion rob cross in leicester. littler was the tournament favourite, and will be at the world championship at alexandra palace which kicks off before christmas. and skipper ben ainslie is under no illusions the size of the challnege facing his america's cup team in the final of sailing showpiece event this weekend, likening it to taking on the all conquering all blacks side in rugby union. this is the boat that will see britain compete for sport's oldest trophy for the first time since 1964 after beating italy 7—4 in the qualifying event in barcelona. when you have a defender, a really strong defender like we do

in emirates team new zealand, they are really like the all blacks of sailing. so to take them on in the america's cup, it's a bit like taking on the all blacks when they've won the rugby world cup, and then they decide the next world cup, well, the pitch might be a little bit bigger, and the press of the ball might be slightly higher. so that's the kind of challenge we're up against here. you might remember that all conquering all blacks side, they were pretty good. he understands how tough it is going to be this weekend. they have been a good practice, they have been out in the water practising, hopefully they have found their sea legs, so to speak of their racing legs. let’s speak of their racing legs. let's ho te so, speak of their racing legs. let's hope so. what _ speak of their racing legs. let's hope so, what an _ speak of their racing legs. let�*s hope so, what an achievement that would be. they are so close now. they have wanted to do it for such a long time. they have wanted to do it for such a lont time. �* they have wanted to do it for such a lont time. . ., , ,., they have wanted to do it for such a lont time. . ., , , long time. and he wants it so badly. he does, long time. and he wants it so badly. he does. think _ long time. and he wants it so badly. he does, think about _ long time. and he wants it so badly. he does, think about the _ long time. and he wants it so badly. he does, think about the money i long time. and he wants it so badly. | he does, think about the money that has been invested to get them there! we are staying with boats now, slightly smaller.

two years ago, a tiny boat made by children in america washed up on a beach in dorset. it had taken 245 days to travel 9,000 miles across the atlantic. now, after being repaired by students here, the inspiration is setting sail again. 0ur reporter, steve humphrey has the story. it's the little boat that's been on an epicjourney. captivating the interest of youngsters on both sides of the atlantic. now it's going to take to the high seas once again, and no—one knows where it'll end up. that's the excitement of the project, i think, in that it could be a child in brazil, it could be a child in antigua that contacts us and says, "hey, i found your boat." the miniature boat was washed up on mudeford beach in dorset in november 2022, bearing all the scars of its voyage across the atlantic. came up here and saw a boat lying up against these rocks that had obviously been washed up through the sort of storm the night before.

battered and bruised is a very good couple of words for it. it had some holes in it, had lots of scratches on it. school pupils in the united states were involved in making and then launching the boat. it was conceived as an educational project and fitted with gps so it could be tracked, along with temperature sensors. the voyage was truly epic. the boat travelled more than 9,000 miles in 245 days. after being found on the beach, the boat was taken to tiptoe primary school, and pupils there were soon linking up with the youngsters in the united states who had been involved at the start of the project. it was a little surprised because i didn't know that it would end up in the uk. it was really unexpected because it's come from such a long way away in america. the boat has now been restored by mudeford sea scouts. ready to go to sea, ship shape and bristol fashion, absolutely. on board, there'll be messages

and photos from the school pupils and the scouts who've been involved in the project. there are also instructions for whoever finds the boat next. it does encourage connections between children on both sides of the oceans. the miniature boat is going to be launched by this local team who are about to row the atlantic. they'll be taking it to the canary islands, and it'll be put in the water sometime in december. quite a responsibility. yes, yes, we have to rebuild it. we're going to have to learn how to rebuild it, put all the sensors in, and then we'll set it sail off of la gomera. hopefully, when the wind's behind it. i think it involves children learning about oceans and the environment, everything that's going on globally, climate change, all that sort of thing. so i think it's an interesting little project and really fun. once it's back at sea, the little boat will be tracked, but it really will be a voyage into the unknown. steve humphrey reporting there.

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east coast late in the week. we have rain in northern ireland and southern scotland, showers across england and wales, some of us will not see them. some sunshine in between and some showers will be heavy and thundery. scotland, fairly cloudy, breaks in the afternoon but showery rain in the north and here as well it will be windy. temperatures, ten to 18. this ceiling overnight, the rain and showers circulate around the area of low pressure. windy conditions in the english channel squeezing through the strait of dover. seven in the doors to 12 further south. wednesday, low—pressure trick to get north showery outbreaks of rain. gusty winds accentuating the cold

feel. temperatures during wednesday nothing to write home about, and it will feel cold in the wind. eight to 16 north to south. as we move on beyond that, low pressure begins to drift east, and it will be absorbed by x hurricane kirk, will not affect us. there is a northerly across the uk so it will turn colder reflected in the blue, losing the mildly yellow. into friday, we have gusty winds across the north sea coastline. dry weather, a few showers in the south—west and north—west, which will turn heavier through the day. temperatures during their stay at best eight to 12. below average in the south of england, especially the south—east. it should be about 15.

thank you, see you later. drink manufacturers say new recycling rules could mean customers paying higher prices and some producers may go out of business altogether. nina's at a recycling facility in south east london this morning with the details. that is where it all ends up, good morning, nina. it that is where it all ends up, good morning. nina-— morning, nina. it is. this is supposed — morning, nina. it is. this is supposed to _ morning, nina. it is. this is supposed to be _ morning, nina. it is. this is supposed to be the i morning, nina. it is. this is supposed to be the paper i morning, nina. it is. this is. supposed to be the paper line morning, nina. it is. this is- supposed to be the paper line but you can see the pickers are plucking out all sorts. i have seen two pairs of underpants already this morning. lots of homework coming through. this is interesting, just the job for this morning, this is interesting, just the job forthis morning, i this is interesting, just the job for this morning, i am talking to you to how good is that if we don't go to battle, that is what we are talking about this morning. sorry to interrupt, but what is the most weird and wonderful thing you have found on this line? has a

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met a manufacture in nottinghamshire. for glass, because glass is heavy, the costs are astronomical. the intermediate _ the costs are astronomical. the intermediate rate _ the costs are astronomical. tie: intermediate rate is about two thirds of the profit every year. they are expecting us to pass that on to consumers as if nothing happens, the consumer pays. it will probably push them smaller consumers out of business and it will really hurt us. , ., ., hurt us. tim is head of sustainability i hurt us. tim is head of sustainability here. i hurt us. tim is head of| sustainability here. we hurt us. tim is head of- sustainability here. we just hurt us. tim is head of— sustainability here. we just heard from a glass manufacturer who talks about the complicated process and how expensive it will be for small businesses, can you imagine that? yes, this piece of regulation is a once in a generation change. there will be incentives on brands to do a shift for more recycling items and packaging on the shelf. the whole

point of this regulation is to give more power to the consumers to choose the recyclable packaging for food stores and home delivery. it is a transition for sure but the whole industry is supportive of the effort. so industry is supportive of the effort, , ., , effort. so short-term, it will be difficulties _ effort. so short-term, it will be difficulties for _ effort. so short-term, it will be difficulties for businesses, i effort. so short-term, it will be difficulties for businesses, but. effort. so short-term, it will be| difficulties for businesses, but in the long term you think people will buy products if they are more recyclable so consumers could win? it will be cheaper for the consumer eventually, a recyclable item will be cheaper and non—recyclable items will be more expensive. it is more power to the consumer. the point is to increase recycling rates, to lower the carbon footprint of the sector in the country so it is good news. , ., , ., . .,, news. the big fear is that the cost will be passed _ news. the big fear is that the cost will be passed on _ news. the big fear is that the cost will be passed on to _ news. the big fear is that the cost will be passed on to the _ will be passed on to the manufacturer and therefore the consumers. at the moment inflation means that so much more expensive and wages are not kept pace so

people cannot afford it. you can see why consumers might not welcome this news, what would you say to that? absolutely, it is a long transition, so you will see the packaging on the shelves transition to eco design. eventually if you do the right choice, i guess, eventually if you do the right choice, iguess, between eventually if you do the right choice, i guess, between the brands and the consumers, it is a shared responsibility, it will not cost more to do the right to think that is what we aim to have with this piece of regulation from the government.— piece of regulation from the government. piece of regulation from the tovernment. ., ., , �* government. the government doesn't sa that the government. the government doesn't say that the polluters _ government. the government doesn't say that the polluters should i government. the government doesn't say that the polluters should pay i say that the polluters should pay and they will be an initial period —— the government says that the polluters should pay and there will be an initial period of transition but things should eventually get cheaper. it has been fascinating talking to the team this morning, we have seen mobile phones, drivers license, and last week somebody phoned up the recycling plant to say, i don't suppose you have found my engagement ring? and guess what, they had!

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you have to get on it. it's always a massive surge. i've had it multiple times i've not been able to get on the train. and it is actuallyjust dangerous. you're so hemmed in, you can't get back out of the station. you've got no chance of getting through. the flooding of afc wimbledon's football ground was "totally predictable", a campaign group has said. over 100,000 litres of water was pumped from the stadium after drains backed up two weeks ago. michael burnage, of the save wimbledon stadium action group, told the bbc that developers, the council, city hall, and the environment agency were all warned about the dangers of flooding. merton council and the environment agency have said they are working together to mitigate the risk of future flooding. next, a group of teenagers from east london have been welcomed to a former pit village in nottinghamshire. the cultural exchange project is designed to help young people from very different deprived communities learn from each other and try new activities including fishing and looking after horses. always fishing and looking after horses. been scared of thl

and today i faced my fear. fishing and looking after horses. i walked a horse. fishing and looking after horses. where are you going to walk a horse in east london? there's buses everywhere! i wanted to run away and cry. but then i was like, you know what? once—in—a—lifetime experience — if i don't give it a go, i'm going to regret it. so i'd rather regret doing it than regret not doing it. a new statue will be unveiled today of london actor daniel kaluuya. the depiction of the academy award—winning actor willjoin statues showcasing the best of british film as part of the scenes in the square trail in leicester square. the sculpture will show an iconic moment from jordan peele's get out. let's take a look at the tubes now. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. it is another day of sunshine and showers. today's showers, you might get some rumbles of thunder, some hail mixed into it but we still have some sunny spells as well. the showers becoming quite frequent, especially through the afternoon. a moderate southerly breeze but the temperature today, despite the downpours, despite the breeze, still getting up to 18 celsius which is above average for the time of year.

now, overnight tonight, we will see further showers rumbling through the evening. beginning to fade as we head through the early hours, becoming a little drier, minimum temperature dropping down to 11 celsius. still a fair amount of cloud in the morning, but that should break, we'll get a few sunny spells, some showers also for wednesday but there is less risk of any thunder through the course of tomorrow. temperatures on wednesday reaching around 17 celsius. the wind is going to start to strengthen towards the end of the day, then overnight into thursday pick up, quite a brisk northerly wind and that wind is going to feel chilly. should see some sunshine on thursday but temperatures much cooler. that's it — i'll be back to with another update in around half an hour. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. 0ur headlines today.

the lebanese government says more than a million people have now been displaced by fighting in the middle east — as israel's prime minister vows to fight on as long as his country is threatened. after a record number of sewage spills, the regulator orders water companies in england and wales to refund more than £150 million to customers. we'll get the latest on the double—decker bus carrying more than 40 school children that crashed in county down — four children are in hospital. maeve boothby—o'neill died earlier this year as a result of her me — we speak to her mother after a coroner calls for action to prevent deaths from the condition. good morning. 0ver good morning. over the next couple of days we are looking at a mixture of days we are looking at a mixture of sunshine and showers, some of which will be heavy and thundery with some hail and then it will turn colder as we pull in a northerly wind. i will have all the details shortly.

it's tuesday the 8th of october. the israeli military has carried out further air strikes on hezbollah targets in the lebanese capital, beirut overnight, following a day of commemorations marking the first anniversary of the attacks by hamas. the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, says the military campaign against hamas and hezbollah — which are both designated as terrorist organisations by the uk — will continue for as long as his country's existence is threatened. it comes as the lebanese government says more than a million people have now been displaced by the fighting. joe inwood reports. beirut — plunged into darkness by this spreading war. huge swathes of the city illuminated only by the explosions of incoming missiles. israel says it is hezbollah positions it's targeting. the people of this city caught in the middle. many are trying to flee — either to safer parts

of the country, or to neighbouring syria. at the main border crossing — recently destroyed by an israeli air strike — the journey is now made on foot. people who fled a civil war in their own country on the move once again. they went to lebanon to escape the war in syria. they are now going back to syria, escaping the war in lebanon. so it gives a sense of the tragic absurdity of the situation that we are living. as civilians move out, ground forces move in. these pictures, released by the israeli defense forces, show the 91st division preparing and then entering lebanon. singing. in israel, it was a night of commemoration as the country remembered the events of the 7th of october, the hamas massacre that lit the touchpaper on this spreading war. "the battle must not stop ahead

of time," said the prime minister. "as long as the enemy is threatening our existence and our country's safety, we will keep fighting. as long as our hostages are in gaza, we will keep fighting." but the official government ceremony was not the only commemoration. in tel aviv, the families of the hostages — around 100 of whom remain in gaza — held their own event with a very different tone. they have often been fiercely critical of the prime minister, and what they see as his focus on fighting a war, rather than bringing theirfamilies home. "exactly one year ago, the most beautiful place — a place filled with joy and hope — turned into hell," he says. "in a single moment, we understood the meaning of being alone." but it was notjust commemorations that were heard in tel aviv last night — the sound of air—raid sirens, followed by distant explosions —

a reminder that, as this war enters its second year, it is spreading, still. joe inwood, bbc news. in a moment we'll speak to our middle east correspondent yolande knell injerusalem — but first let's go to hugo bachega in beirut. maybe bring us up to date, how are things overnight? to maybe bring us up to date, how are things overnight?— maybe bring us up to date, how are things overnight? to date marks one ear since things overnight? to date marks one year since hezbollah _ things overnight? to date marks one year since hezbollah started i things overnight? to date marks one year since hezbollah started firing i year since hezbollah started firing rockets at israel saying it was acting in solidarity with palestinians in gaza. lebanon is now very much at the centre of this war, the main focus of the israeli military. more than 2000 people have been killed in this conflict in this country. 1.2 million people have been forced to flee their homes and this is a crisis only getting worse. yesterday was a day of intense israeli air strikes, especially in

the south. the lebanese health ministry said at least ten firefighters were killed in an israeli attack. a growing number of rescue teams, medical workers being killed as a result of israeli air strikes across the country. hezbollah has continued to fire rockets at israel, most of them yesterday were intercepted by the israeli military but again it shows that, despite weeks of these intense israeli campaign, that group still has some ability to carry out attacks and beirut continues to be a key target of the israeli army. yesterday we saw an israeli air strike. huge explosion, claims of smoke rising from a building hit. we also saw widespread destruction, buildings flattened, and the destruction caused by these israeli air strikes and, again, destruction caused by these israeli airstrikes and, again, the destruction caused by these israeli air strikes and, again, the israeli military giving signs that this campaign against hezbollah will continue and is likely to be expanded. continue and is likely to be expanded-_ continue and is likely to be

ex-anded. ., ., ., ,, 0ur middle east correspondent yolande knell is injerusalem. such a sombre day there yesterday but the fighting continues.- but the fighting continues. indeed. israel's military _ but the fighting continues. indeed. israel's military says _ but the fighting continues. indeed. israel's military says this _ but the fighting continues. indeed. israel's military says this morning | israel's military says this morning that it killed another hezbollah commander. that was in an air strike in beirut. saying he was at hezbollah headquarters, someone involved in logistics and management and even involved in ringing in weapons from iran. several more towns have been declared closed military zones in israel, sign that israel may be expanding its ground offensive in lebenon. really, washington, which had been pushing two weeks ago for a ceasefire between israel and hezbollah now

seems it is trying instead to shape and limit israel's military operations in lebanon. we had comments from the state department spokesman matthew miller yesterday where he said that israel had in many times in the past said it was going to carry out limited operations, but had then stayed for months or years. washington was cognisant of this fact, he said. we also had comments from the cia director william burns as we know that israeli and us officials are discussing israel's like the response to the big missile attack last week. william burns said, there is a very real danger of regional escalation, although neither israel nor iran want an all out war. thank ou.jon nor iran want an all out war. thank you- jon has _ nor iran want an all out war. thank you. jon has more _ nor iran want an all out war. thank you. jon has more of _ nor iran want an all out war. thank you. jon has more of the _ nor iran want an all out war. thank you. jon has more of the day's i nor iran want an all out war. thank. you. jon has more of the day's news including breaking news about our water bills.

water companies are being asked to pay £157 million back to customers because of poor performance, the regulator 0fwat has announced in its annual report. 0ur environment correspondent jonah fisher has the report. this lets speak to him. morning. what does this mean for people who pay their water bills, or some of them, at least?— pay their water bills, or some of them, at least? good morning. we have 'ust them, at least? good morning. we have just had _ them, at least? good morning. we have just had that _ them, at least? good morning. we have just had that report _ them, at least? good morning. we have just had that report in i them, at least? good morning. we have just had that report in the i have just had that report in the last few minutes, effectively the best way to think about this is as an end of year report card for the water companies of england and wales. they get marked across a number of different performance targets including how well they have donein targets including how well they have done in terms of stopping leaks, have they reduced the number of pollution incidents, either customers satisfied with what they do? i have got those results here and broadly speaking they are not doing very well, perhaps as you might expect. 13 of the 17 companies are rated as doing average. 14 in

fact. three are rated in the bottom category, which is lagging, anglia, southern water and welsh water, and for the second year in a row there is no company rated in the top leading group in this 0fwat report. in terms of bills, the way the system is structured, it is designed to incentivise companies that do well and penalised those that have done badly. the net result is that customers in the next billing year will get £157 million back in their bill. don't get too excited. when you factor in inflation and the other big bill rises likely coming in the water industry, it may be a relatively small amount of money in your back pocket but at least a little bit, perhaps, that bill has gone down today.— little bit, perhaps, that bill has gone down today. thank you for explaining _ gone down today. thank you for explaining that. _ a powerful hurricane heading towards the us state of florida has intensified to a dangerous category five storm. large numbers of people are leaving the city of tampa in response to increasingly dramatic warnings from the authorities about the threat posed

by hurricane milton, which is expected to make landfall tomorrow. conservative mps will eliminate another candidate from the party's leadership contest today. tom tugendhat, james cleverly, robertjenrick and kemi badenoch are the four remaining contenders hoping to succeed rishi sunak in the role. it will go down to three later. a 12—year—old girl has suffered life—changing injuries following a dog attack in brynmawr in south wales. a man and woman are being held on suspicion of owning a dog bred forfighting, and owning a dog dangerously out of control. the animal will be destroyed. four children have been treated in hospital after their double—decker school bus overturned in county down. police are investigating the circumstances behind the crash. 0ur ireland correspondent, chris page reports. the bus toppled over within a few terrifying seconds. very quickly afterwards, there was the rescue, and huge relief.

43 pupils were on board. 0ne12—year—old boy told us he was sitting on the upper deck when the crash happened. we started going down that hill and then we just tipped sideways. so i closed my eyes and ijust, like, opened them and i was just laying on the bus floor. people came down and they were smashing the windows and stuff. the farmers. i was, like, crawling under the bars and the school bags were on the floor and stuff. he rung me a couple of minutes before to see if his friend could come, and then he rung back and he wasjust screaming, "the bus has crashed, the bus has crashed!" and everyone was screaming in the background behind him, and it was deafening. and ijust ran out of my house — i've still got my slippers on. got a bit of a banged—up head, but — and a sore arm — but he's here and he's 0k. paramedics, firefighters and the northern ireland air ambulance were all involved in getting pupils out of the bus and giving medical treatment.

most of the schoolchildren on the bus either sustained minor injuries or weren't hurt, but four passengers have been taken to hospital. it's believed none of their injuries are life—threatening. the pupils attend this secondary school nearby. they'll be offered counselling in the coming days. for now, children, parents and teachers are immensely thankful there wasn't even more serious harm. chris page, bbc news, in county down. in the united states, the democrats' presidential candidate kamala harris has slammed her republican rival donald trump for his position over the war in ukraine. in a wide—ranging interview, one month before voters go to the polls, the current vice president was pressed on a number of issues including the conflict in the middle east, immigration, and gun laws. would you meet with president vladimir putin to negotiate a solution to the war in ukraine?

not bilaterally without ukraine. no. ukraine must have a say in the future of ukraine. donald trump — if he were president — putin would be sitting in kyiv right now. he talks about, oh, he can end it on day one. you know what that is? it's about surrender. a star wars stormtrooper helmet is set to be auctioned in london next month. it's thought the headgear, which featured in the very first star wars, could fetch up to half a million pounds. look at that! that is crazy. one of the originals- _ look at that! that is crazy. one of the originals. recognise - look at that! that is crazy. one of the originals. recognise that? i look at that! that is crazy. one of the originals. recognise that? onj the originals. recognise that? on the originals. recognise that? on the classic 98. did russell crowe ever wear that? the classic 98. did russell crowe everwearthat? i the classic 98. did russell crowe ever wear that? i bet he didn't. sweat included, part of the price. it is amongst 2000 pieces of movie

memorabilia. it is amongst 2000 pieces of movie memorabilia-— it is amongst 2000 pieces of movie memorabilia. what do you think will be worth more. _ memorabilia. what do you think will be worth more, and _ memorabilia. what do you think will be worth more, and gladiator- memorabilia. what do you think willl be worth more, and gladiator helmet for star wars?— for star wars? million pounds tuestion for star wars? million pounds question like _ for star wars? million pounds question like i— for star wars? million pounds question like i know - for star wars? million pounds question like i know it i for star wars? million pounds question like i know it is i for star wars? million pounds question like i know it is cold| question like i know it is cold but... question like i know it is cold but. . . ., question like i know it is cold but... ., ., , ., but... there are other versions out there. but... there are other versions out there- good _ but... there are other versions out there. good morning, _ but... there are other versions out there. good morning, carol. i good morning. speaking of cold, it will turn colder through the week. tomorrow and the next few days could see some snow on top of the mountains in the highlands of scotland. today we are not looking at that. we have some heavy downpours, some hail, thunder and lightning, gusty winds. in between the showers they will be sunshine and of course because they are showers we will not all catch one. we have been seeing some rain and showers through the course of the morning. we have this band which has been steadily moving northwards. this rash of showers coming in across the south—west and we have some showery outbreaks of rain

across northern scotland. here, too, across northern scotland. here, too, a fairly cloudy start with a northerly wind. further south, we continue with the showers. where you see the bright yellow and green is where we are expecting heavy ones, but don't take this as gospel. they are likely to move from the west to the east but even in the west we will see further showers through the morning and into the afternoon. as the rain continues across northern england, northern ireland and also southern scotland. that is the progress this rain makes. heavy across the north pennines, wish i was developing, some sunshine in between, and these are the temperatures. ten to about 18 degrees. through this evening and overnight, the low pressure driving our weather drift a little bit further east but we still have the rain and the showers rotating around it. some clear skies, a keen northerly wind making it feel cooler in the north, but overnight lows around seven to 12 degrees. tomorrow, we start off with the showers and the rain in some eastern

areas, but as the low pressure moves into the north sea it will drag a lot of those showers with it. it will brighten up towards the east. wintry showers across the north of scotland, on the mountains, and these are our temperatures, eight to 16 in the wind, and it will feel cool especially in the northern half of the country. thank you very much. we will see you soon. an important health story now. future deaths could occur if action isn't taken to address the treatment of those living with me — that's the stark warning of a coroner, following an inquest into the death of a young woman from the disease. 27—year—old maeve boothby—o'neill had been living with the debilitating condition for more than a decade before she died from malnutrition three years ago. 0ur reporter steve knibbs has more. since she was 13, maeve boothby—o'neill suffered from fatigue, but after finishing her a—levels her condition got worse and she was diagnosed with severe me. in 2021, she was admitted to hospital three times

and in the last few months of her life was confined to bed, unable to chew food or drink properly as she couldn't sit up. maeve died at home in october. the coroner, deborah archer, concluding her death was from natural causes due to her me. now the coroner has sent now the coroner has sent a prevention of future deaths report a prevention of future deaths report to the secretary of state, to the secretary of state, wes streeting, as well as a number wes streeting, as well as a number of health organisations. of health organisations. in it, she said that, in it, she said that, following the inquest, following the inquest, it was clear that there were no it was clear that there were no specialist hospitals, hospices, specialist hospitals, hospices, beds, wards or other health care beds, wards or other health care provision for patients provision for patients with severe me in england. with severe me in england. this meant that maeve's hospital — this meant that maeve's hospital — the royal devon and exeter — the royal devon and exeter — had no commissioned service had no commissioned service to treat her. there was, the coroner said, to treat her. there was, the coroner said, no current funding available no current funding available for research into the treatment for research into the treatment and causes of me, with limited and causes of me, with limited training for doctors. training for doctors. the department of health said the department of health said that its deepest sympathies that its deepest sympathies were with maeve's family and friends, and that this is a heart—wrenching example is a heart—wrenching example of a patient falling of a patient falling

through the cracks. through the cracks. and dismissed maeve. of all those affected, and will publish a plan in the winter to boost research, improve attitudes and education maeve's family are angry that it's taken her death to highlight these issues, issues that she knew herself and that were no surprise to anyone affected. maeve desperately wanted to change things to save her life and countless others. before she died, she told her mum, "at least we know we tried." steve knibbs, bbc news. we're nowjoined by maeve's mum, sarah boothby. good morning. thank you so much for talking to us about this. a phrase that strikes me from the current�*s words and it is, "misunderstood and

dismissed." that is what happened to maeve. just explain to us how those words have settled with you. film. words have settled with you. oh, well, thank _ words have settled with you. oh, well, thank you _ words have settled with you. oh, well, thank you so _ words have settled with you. (1)! well, thank you so much words have settled with you. oi, well, thank you so much for having me on again. i think the thing i'm feeling most is really frustrated, as are all of the other people who have been diagnosed with me for a long time. we all know that maeve was not the first to die. there are more people now who are dying, i can promise you that, because of the numbers. since covid the numbers of people with me have increased to 700,000, but along with that increase has come a whole load of knowledge from very, very experienced doctors who now have me themselves or family members with me because of the long covid of me, which is around half of it. i think

my frustration really stems from the inquest not being any further on than we were three years ago. maeve knew, i knew, all of the people who are listening to this, watching this now, they know and they are being prevented, as is the professorfrom the royal devon hospital, from bringing about the changes that will prevent deaths and i find that more shocking than anything else that i can say. i am almost speechless about that. why would the nhs prevent more deaths? they have had every opportunity ever since the inquest opened to learn what we already know. i inquest opened to learn what we already know-— inquest opened to learn what we already know. i remember in the 19805 already know. i remember in the 1980s when _ already know. i remember in the 1980s when we _ already know. i remember in the 1980s when we started - already know. i remember in the 1980s when we started talking . already know. i remember in the i 1980s when we started talking about 19805 when we started talking about me and there were some doctors who questioned whether it really existed and some people who were suffering really struggling to be heard and

taken seriously. do you think we are still living with that legacy now in 2024? i still living with that legacy now in 2024? ., �* ., still living with that legacy now in 2024? ., �* ,, ., 2024? i don't think we are in the new generation _ 2024? i don't think we are in the new generation of _ 2024? i don't think we are in the new generation of doctors. i 2024? i don't think we are in the new generation of doctors. the i new generation of doctors. the people i havejust mentioned know what me is and they know how to treat it. what they cannot do is treat it. what they cannot do is treat it. what they cannot do is treat it within the nhs. there is a layer of management within the nhs that may be stuck in those old ideas, quite possibly they are because that is the only explanation i can come up with

because that is the only explanation i ca treat e up with because that is the only explanation i ca treat it, p with because that is the only explanation i ca treat it, the th you stop you treat it, the sooner you stop its progression. maeve knew that and i knew that when we were going into hospital time after time. what we couldn't understand is why the hospital didn't know it. professor hemsley has shown everybody the reason the hospital doesn't know it is because the nhs executive doesn't know it. why they don't know, they need to explain. i cannot do that for them. ., ._ ., need to explain. i cannot do that forthem. ., ., ., , for them. you say that action can be taken to save _ for them. you say that action can be taken to save lives _ for them. you say that action can be taken to save lives now. _ for them. you say that action can be taken to save lives now. what i for them. you say that action can be j taken to save lives now. what would that be, what is that action? weill. that be, what is that action? well, i think... that be, what is that action? well, i think- -- i — that be, what is that action? well, | think... ithink— that be, what is that action? well, | think... | think the _ that be, what is that action? well, i think... i think the problem i that be, what is that action? well, i think... i think the problem for. i think... i think the problem for the new government is really profound, so i appreciate that the coroner has written wes to streeting but what they have inherited, this new government, is the most horrendous mess and me and the plan for me is no different from the rest of it. my suggestion to them is that

they talk to the people that know, and there are tens of thousands of people that know, but the people who are advising at the moment genuinely don't know, and that the educational package that is coming out is absolutely pointless. it is not going to help anybody. professor hemsley could help them, doctor kane, doctortaylor. icould hemsley could help them, doctor kane, doctor taylor. i could help them. all of the families that i i could help kane, doctor taylor. i could help them. all of the families that i know, and there are a lot, could know, and there are a lot, could also help them. we are all really also help them. we are all really ready and willing to help! the ready and willing to help! the earlier you stop it and start earlier you stop it and start managing the symptom, the main managing the symptom, the main symptom, which is manageable, and if symptom, which is manageable, and if maeve had been treated for that maeve had been treated for that symptom from the very beginning she symptom from the very beginning she would not have needed a would not have needed a round—the—clock care that she only round—the—clock care that she only got for me and that is the same for got for me and that is the same for every other person for me or long every other person for me or long covid me as we are discovering. brute covid me as we are discovering. brute covid me as we are discovering. we have seen some pictures of maeve covid me as we are discovering. we have seen some pictures of maeve when she was young. the irony is when she was young. the irony is

that she was so knowledgeable about that she was so knowledgeable about the condition, she understood it. what do you think she would have made of this coroner report, those words? ~ , made of this coroner report, those words? . , ., , ,, ., , , words? well, she was... she was very wi ! she words? well, she was... she was very witty! she would _ words? well, she was... she was very witty! she would have _ words? well, she was... she was very witty! she would have had _ words? well, she was... she was very witty! she would have had a _ words? well, she was... she was very witty! she would have had a very i witty! she would have had a very funny one—liner that i'm afraid i don't have! but she was

funny one—liner that i'm afraid i don't have what she was funny one—liner that i'm afraid i don't have what you was funny one—liner that i'm afraid i don't have what you and other strikingly, what you and other families have been going through. thank you so much for coming and talking to us and we will speak again, i'm sure. sarah boothby joining us from exeter.- again, i'm sure. sarah boothby joining us from exeter. thanks very much. joining us from exeter. thanks very much- you — joining us from exeter. thanks very much- you are _ joining us from exeter. thanks very much. you are watching _ joining us from exeter. thanks very much. you are watching breakfast. much. you are watching breakfast from bbc news. _ a woman who spent 48 years wondering why her dream job application was never answered has finally found out why. tizi hodson could hardly believe her eyes when she opened the post to discover her letter — applying for the role of a motorcycle stunt rider — had been returned to her, after being stuck behind a post office drawer since 1976. is it too late? she can still go for it, can she?! let's find out. jake zuckerman went to meet her. 1976. britain sweltered through a record heat wave, the brotherhood of man topped the charts, and 22—year—old motorcycle courier tizi hodson applied for a newjob. dear sir, in answer to your advert

asking for a stunt rider, i am applying for the position. accidents don't worry me having broken many bones, including my skull. fast forward to 2024 and that letter has finally returned to its sender after 48 years lost in the post. i couldn't believe it when i read the little note on top of the letter. as they said, "late delivery by staines post office, found behind a drawer." only about 50 years late!" for tizi, now aged 70, it clears up a long standing mystery. i remember very clearly sitting in my flat in cavendish mansions in london 50 years ago, writing the letter, typing it, in fact. and every day i looked for my post and nothing there. and i was so disappointed because i really, really wanted to be a stunt rider on a motorcycle. itjust seems incredible to get the letter back and to find out why they never replied to me, because they never got my letter. but it didn't stop tizi

from making her dreams come true. she quickly got a job as a stunt rider with a different display team and embarked on a daredevil career — becoming a snake—handler in africa, an aerobatic pilot, and flying instructor, before eventually retiring to lincolnshire — where this reminder of her younger days appeared out of the blue. you're 70 now. you wrote that letter when you were 22. what would you tell that 22—year—old who wrote the letter? i'd say, "go and do everything i've done. doesn't matter if you break bones." i've had so much fun of a lifestyle, and so much wonderful time in life, even though i have broken a few bones. i certainly wouldn't want to look back and think i'd done anything differently in life. jake zuckerman, bbc news. what a career! what a cv. exactly. if she what a career! what a cv. exactly. if she applies _ what a career! what a cv. exactly. if she applies again _ what a career! what a cv. exactly. if she applies again she _ what a career! what a cv. exactly. if she applies again she is i what a career! what a cv. exactly. if she applies again she is bound . what a career! what a cv. exactly. | if she applies again she is bound to get an interview.— if she applies again she is bound to. get an interview._ we get an interview. braver than us. we need a sequel. _ get an interview. braver than us. we need a sequel. get _ get an interview. braver than us. we need a sequel, get it _ get an interview. braver than us. we need a sequel, get it back— get an interview. braver than us. we need a sequel, get it back on - get an interview. braver than us. we need a sequel, get it back on the -

need a sequel, get it back on the bike. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. passengers that use euston station have told bbc london they're concerned overcrowding that happens in the station is dangerous. network rail is carrying out a review of the station and has already stopped advertising on a new screen on the concourse. passengers say the overcrowding happens regularly. it's just always a crush. and what's awful is there's no sort of predictable time that, you know, is going to be busier than other times. and they announce the trains like two minutes before you have to get on it. it's always a massive surge. i've had it multiple times i've not been able to get on the train. and it is actuallyjust dangerous. you're so hemmed in, you can't get back out of the station. you've got no chance of getting through. a decision on whether to go ahead with £9 billion road crossing between kent and essex has been delayed until may. the initial deadline for a decision

on the lower thames crossing was due to be last friday. work on the project started in 2009, and more than £800 million has been spent on planning. now, the stirling prize is considered to be the most prestigious architectural award in the country and this year, four of the six nominations are in london. the winner will be announced next week and ahead of the awards, bbc london is visiting all of the capitals nominations. one of those is the redevelopment of kings cross preserving the victorian industrial buildings and infrastructure. the gas holders were originally south of the canal. they are now behind us north of the canal. they were dismantled like a piece of meccano, and then they were re—erected and inside the frame, instead of the original gas drum, it's now a drum of apartment buildings. a new statue will be unveiled today of london actor daniel kaluuya. the depiction of the academy award winning actor will join statues showcasing the best of british film as part

of the scenes in the square trail in leicester square. the sculpture will show an iconic moment from jordan peele's get out. let's take a look at the tubes now. minor delays on the metropolitan line. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. it is another day of sunshine and showers. today's showers, you might get some rumbles of thunder, some hail mixed into it but we still have some sunny spells as well. the showers becoming quite frequent, especially through the afternoon. a moderate southerly breeze but the temperature today, despite the downpours, despite the breeze, still getting up to 18 celsius which is above average for the time of year. now, overnight tonight, we will see further showers rumbling through the evening. beginning to fade as we head through the early hours, becoming a little drier, minimum temperature dropping down to 11 celsius. still a fair amount of cloud in the morning, but that should break, we'll get a few sunny spells, some showers also for wednesday but there is less risk of any thunder through the

course of tomorrow. temperatures on wednesday reaching around 17 celsius. the wind is going to start to strengthen towards the end of the day, then overnight into thursday pick up, quite a brisk northerly wind and that wind is going to feel chilly. should see some sunshine on thursday but temperatures much cooler. that's it, i'll be back to with another update in around half an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with sally nugent and jon kay. as israel marks a year since the deadly hamas attacks, fears about a wider war in the middle east continue to grow. with further air strikes again overnight in the lebanese capital beirut and across central israel, questions remain about whether a peaceful resolution can still be found. we're joined now from jerusalem by our international editorjeremy bowen.

jeremy, there is an awful lot of looking back this week, looking back to the events of october seven ili year ago. to the events of october seven ili yearago. but to the events of october seven ili year ago. but where are we looking forward? is there any movement at all in terms of trying to find peace? all in terms of trying to find eace? ~ . , all in terms of trying to find eace? ~ ., , ., ., peace? the middle east at the moment is in a very bad — peace? the middle east at the moment is in a very bad and _ peace? the middle east at the moment is in a very bad and dangerous - is in a very bad and dangerous place, and looking forward, frankly, it's a pretty grim picture that you see. you can argue, and some colonists in the israeli press this morning have done this, —— some columnists, that israel had every right to go after hamas after what they did, and hezbollah in the north in lebanon who were shelling israel for months and months, sending rockets over, some have argued that they had every right to go after them in terms of self defence. the big match and is pushing it to the

point where iran got directly involved in what is going on. there have been exchanges of missiles and attacks and the iranians hit israel last week with a large wave of ballistic missiles. best of them were taken out by defences. the point is that israel has said very explicitly that it will be responding. the question is when, and how much, another question, those questions, that really hangs, how this goes now. if it is a big attack, and a lot of people in israel saying this is the real chance for israel to hurt the regime in tehran, there will be a bigger response from the iranians. find in tehran, there will be a bigger response from the iranians. and in this in between _ response from the iranians. and in this in between time, _ response from the iranians. and in this in between time, this - response from the iranians. and in this in between time, this limbo i this in between time, this limbo moment while everybody is waiting for the next thing to happen, what is life like? ~ ., , for the next thing to happen, what is life like?— is life like? well, life goes on. it de-ends is life like? well, life goes on. it depends where _ is life like? well, life goes on. it depends where you _ is life like? well, life goes on. it

depends where you are. - is life like? well, life goes on. it depends where you are. where i j is life like? well, life goes on. it - depends where you are. where i am in jerusalem, it's extremely quiet, normally this time of year the weather is pretty nice, you get a lot of tourists and pilgrims. very, very few. the hotels are empty. the economy of israel is now really suffering, because of everything that has been going on. and it's a similar story that has been going on. and it's a similarstory in, that has been going on. and it's a similar story in, say, tel aviv and big cities. on the face of it it can look a bit normal. of course, it is extremely different in gaza where nearly 43,000 people have been killed according to the hamas run health authority which normally, international agencies say come out with pretty accurate figures. possibly 10,000 people, with pretty accurate figures. possibly10,000 people, bodies with pretty accurate figures. possibly 10,000 people, bodies under the rubble. people living in conditions of extreme privation, hunger, not enough according to the un of what you need for life so life is appalling. lebanon as well, more than1 million people displaced,

left their homes, homes have been destroyed behind them particularly in south lebanon. and in the west bank, which is the other end of the palestinian territories, has been a big spike of violence. there are a lot of soldiers around the place, and the armed palestinian groups have not been deterred by that and plus there are armed and highly radicaljewish settlers roaming around the place. so all around you are seeing a multi—front war, a lot of confusion. and really this is going to go on. the thing is this that more generations here will be condemned to this kind of life unless they can deal with massive significant, really long—standing underlying problems, and of the most fundamental one is the conflict between israelis and palestinians over control of the land that they both call home. {131 over control of the land that they both call home.— both call home. of course historically, _ both call home. of course historically, the _ both call home. of course historically, the united i both call home. of course - historically, the united states has often played a really key role in

trying to mediate in the middle east. some would say, at times, that has not worked out very well. but right now, we have a president biden who is coming to the end of his term, we don't know who is going to replace him. how significant is that limbo in the ongoing situation in the region where you are this morning?— the region where you are this mornin: ? , �* ., morning? president biden and the americans have _ morning? president biden and the americans have played _ morning? president biden and the americans have played a - morning? president biden and the americans have played a very - morning? president biden and the americans have played a very big l americans have played a very big part in the last year of events here, and it's not a particularly positive one. because while they have continued to support israel with military supplies, which is something they do, they are wedded to it, they want to do it, they feel it is the right thing to do, and no one is surprised by them doing that. they haven't matched that with the diplomatic initiative that they have tried to enforce or at least really pressure to try to calm the whole thing down, and try and deal with that underlying problem. they had

good ideas, talking about the two state solution and ways to get to it, but in the end, when president biden had a chance to put some leverage on mr netanyahu, didn't do it. ., ~ leverage on mr netanyahu, didn't do it. . ~ , ., , . it. thank you very much indeed, jeremy bowen. _ it. thank you very much indeed, jeremy bowen, our _ it. thank you very much indeed, jeremy bowen, our middle - it. thank you very much indeed, jeremy bowen, our middle east| it. thank you very much indeed, - jeremy bowen, our middle east editor from jerusalem. at 10 o'clock on bbc radio 5 live, our correspondents lyse doucet and paul adams will answer some of your questions on the current conflict in the middle east. you can also watch live on the bbc news channel and online. let's return to one of our main stories this morning and the water regulator 0fwat has ordered operators to pay refunds totalling nearly £158 million to customers, after a record year of sewage spills. we're joined now by ofwat�*s chief executive, david black. good morning, mr black. first of all, why are so many water companies not performing at a good standard? we think the sector suffers from a

culture of poor performance that companies are not taking responsibility for their performance, too often blaming the weather, or circumstances, even possibly blaming customers themselves. we wanted to take responsibility and put a sharper focus on performance which is why we have imposed these penalties. this sits alongside a major uptick in investment, companies will spend £88 billion to improve service for customers and the environment. we know that four companies are going to be able to charge more because they have been seen to have a good standard, but yet you are saying that isn't good enough? we standard, but yet you are saying that isn't good enough?- that isn't good enough? we are sa inc that isn't good enough? we are saying overall _ that isn't good enough? we are saying overall the _ that isn't good enough? we are saying overall the sector's - saying overall the sector's performance is disappointing, and in areas like pollution performance, is particularly poor. those four companies have performed well in other areas so we look at

performance across the board from customer service to reducing leakage, and reducing flooding in homes. so across the board, those companies are looking better which is why we are recognising and rewarding them for improved performance because that has value for customers. and the environment. one of those companies united utilities has been seen as good enough to be able to charge customers more. people who watch this company might remember we have reported on united utilities dispelling sewage into lake windermere, is that good performance?— windermere, is that good erformance? ~ , ., ~ ., performance? absolutely not. we are ve clear performance? absolutely not. we are very clear that — performance? absolutely not. we are very clear that united _ performance? absolutely not. we are very clear that united utilities - very clear that united utilities need to improve environmental performance and in particular the way that they discharge sewage into lake windermere. we have opened an enforcement investigation against them if we find they have broken the law we will not hesitate to take action. we have imposed large fines on other companies in recent months. this looks at their performance

across the board, both to their service of providing water to homes and environmental performance, the across—the—board performance sees across—the—boa rd performance sees them across—the—board performance sees them getting this additional 33 million. d0 them getting this additional 33 million. ,, ~ them getting this additional 33 million. ~' ., them getting this additional 33 million. a, . , million. do you think of customers would look — million. do you think of customers would look at _ million. do you think of customers would look at that _ million. do you think of customers would look at that performance . million. do you think of customers | would look at that performance and say this is not good? i know you are basing it on other things like customer complaint response but what they are doing should not be deemed as good. they are doing should not be deemed asaood. , , . they are doing should not be deemed asaood. , . , they are doing should not be deemed as good. absolutely, which is why on ollution as good. absolutely, which is why on pollution performance _ as good. absolutely, which is why on pollution performance for _ pollution performance for example, . .. pollution performance for example, . . ._ pollution performance for example, . . . pollution performance for examle,... �* , example,... but you still let them charue example,... but you still let them charge more? _ example,... but you still let them charge more? that _ example,... but you still let them charge more? that is _ example,... but you still let them charge more? that is because - example,... but you still let them charge more? that is because we| example,... but you still let them i charge more? that is because we set a balanced performance _ charge more? that is because we set a balanced performance regime - charge more? that is because we set| a balanced performance regime which takes into account service to customers which is important, and providing excellent drinking water in homes, so that matters. if they have broken the law in regards to their conduct in windermere we will take enforcement action and impose automatic penalties for pollution

moments. we are clear that they need to prove in this space, and we have told united utilities that we will hold them to account for those matters. ~ ., ., , matters. we are headlining the fines ou are matters. we are headlining the fines you are talking _ matters. we are headlining the fines you are talking about _ matters. we are headlining the fines you are talking about this _ matters. we are headlining the fines you are talking about this moody, i matters. we are headlining the fines you are talking about this moody, it| you are talking about this moody, it sounds like a lot of money, but given the amount that those companies are being fined, there has only been a 2% reduction in pollution incidents to date. does that mean that you are be an effective regulator if that number is so small? we effective regulator if that number is so small?— effective regulator if that number is so small? we will do everything in our power _ is so small? we will do everything in our power to — is so small? we will do everything in our power to drive _ is so small? we will do everything in our power to drive the - is so small? we will do everything in our power to drive the companyj in our power to drive the company performance, but that is the responsibility of boards and leadership of the companies. they are multi—multibillion pound companies, it is theirjob to serve customers and the environment which is why we are holding the ball to account for failing to do so and we have imposed these automatic penalties. if they have broken the law we will take enforcement action, we have imposed fines on three companies this year, we have a baby companies this year, we have a baby companies under investigation. we

are not —— the remaining companies under investigation. we are not stopping there, we are working with companies where we have identified performance problems, we have performance problems, we have performance plants and we monitor them and it requires them to identify the root causes of poor performance and take action. only by doing the hard yards of finding out what has gone wrong in these companies and fixing these issues, that we will see improved performance and we will continue to do that. �* , performance and we will continue to do that. h ., ., ~' performance and we will continue to do that. �*, ., ., ~ ., ., ., do that. let's look at the root causes of _ do that. let's look at the root causes of poor— do that. let's look at the root causes of poor performance. | causes of poor performance. environmental campaigners say one of the biggest problems is out of date infrastructure and water companies needs to be able to spend more money on that is to make things better down the line. if they are paying back £157 million of fines, and not able to raise their prices, how do they pay for infrastructure? i can answer that. _ they pay for infrastructure? i can answer that, these _ they pay for infrastructure? i can answer that, these finds, - they pay for infrastructure? i can answer that, these finds, these returns to customers are reducing shareholder returns and evidence that get paid to investors. the

money that they have to invest —— and dividends that gets paid to investors. the moment that they have to invest is not touched by these findings. it is about reducing returns to shareholders is not about money invested for customers. so we have tripled the amount of investment. companies have been slow to spend this money we have allowed for investment, and they are behind or delivery of improvements in year four of the current pricing period. so when companies breach their rules and there are multiple serious breaches, do you think the fine is enough? it breaches, do you think the fine is enouuh? , ., , , enough? it is part of the remedy but not the only — enough? it is part of the remedy but not the only tool _ enough? it is part of the remedy but not the only tool we _ enough? it is part of the remedy but not the only tool we employ. - enough? it is part of the remedy but not the only tool we employ. we - enough? it is part of the remedy but| not the only tool we employ. we will use every power we have so for example we look at executive bonuses, and we will order companies not to allow, we will recover them

from customers, those bonuses. we have talked about performance improvement plans that we require companies to address the root causes of these issues and it sits alongside a record level of investment that will take place in the next pricing period.— investment that will take place in the next pricing period. given the situation of _ the next pricing period. given the situation of the _ the next pricing period. given the situation of the water _ the next pricing period. given the situation of the water industry - the next pricing period. given the situation of the water industry in | situation of the water industry in this country, do you think that 0fwat are effective as a regulator? we are always looking to do better, we have looked at how we regulate so we have looked at how we regulate so we have looked at how we regulate so we have made three key changes. we are going to engage much more on the sector's long term delivery, we don't think the sector is focused enough on the long—term good we have a lot of roles to play in that space. the second area is performance, we have a new team in 0fwat to focus on company performance, we are getting more intelligence are what is going wrong with companies and working more closely to hold them to account. and also enforce them to improve. at the

third area is around the delivery of major new investment. we are very conscious as investment steps up that the sector needs to step up its ability to deliver this very large investment programme so we are going to be paying closer attention to how the sector delivers on this investment programme. david black, chief executive _ investment programme. david black, chief executive of _ investment programme. david black, chief executive of 0fwat, _ investment programme. david black, chief executive of 0fwat, thank - investment programme. david black, chief executive of 0fwat, thank you. | chief executive of 0fwat, thank you. thank you. an all—female group of former sub—postmasters have been recognised for their work, campaigning for justice for the victims of the post office scandal, at the women of the year awards. among them was lady suzanne bates, the wife of former sub postmaster, sir alan bates, who is credited with spearheading the campaign. our correspondent emma simpson went along to meet them. 12 remarkable women. they've been through the worst of times with horizon, but today, at least there's something to celebrate. how does it feel to be all together like this for the first time?

ifeel like a little kid that's been invited to the really good party. definitely feel very empowered, very proud and privileged as well. and i can say it's like a special moment. it feels unreal. and obviously there's a lot of people in this room - all deserve to be here. i don't feel like i've done anything special to get an award. i've just plodded on day by day, trying to get my name cleared and get where i need to get. the fight for justice, though, is neverfarfrom their minds. people in power have tried to suppress us and they've been very wrong to do that. and we've taught them a lesson, i think. i think we gotjudged at the beginning. we all got judged as thieves, labelled as thieves. but we're out here now to prove that we're not. and how do you feel about getting your honour today? it hasn't sunk in yet. it hasn't sunk in. could you ever have imagined this time last year, you'd be at this hotel as a group, getting honoured in the women

of the year awards? no! not at all, it's wonderful. just truly wonderful. and they made the most of it. on the red carpet for a photo to remember. the post office women were the real stars here and the celebrities wanted to meet them. plenty of selfies too, as well as a pose with a former pm. # representing all the women, salute, salute! please welcome to the stage our host, mel giedroyc. - time for the main event and the post office women were the first to be honoured. one of the most shocking stories of injustice at home this year came from the rage invoking post office scandal. it's with huge pride that we welcome representatives from this very important campaign today. i would like to ask them if they're

not too embarrassed to stand so that we can give them some almighty applause in special recognition of their indomitable efforts. short and simple. but it meant a great deal to these women who've now formed a close bond. emma simpson, bbc news, at the women of the year awards. some power in that room. absolutely, some speeches _ some power in that room. absolutely, some speeches as _ some power in that room. absolutely, some speeches as well. _ some power in that room. absolutely, some speeches as well. that - some power in that room. absolutely, some speeches as well. that is - some speeches as well. that is relevant to what we are talking about now. we've all heard of the three rs — reading, writing and arithmetic. well, there are now calls to add a fourth "r" to lessons in schools across england — oracy. it comes after the findings of a new report suggested teaching children how to articulate ideas and communicate clearly is just as important as other key skills. our reporter, kristianjohnson has been to one school where oracy is already at the heart of the curriculum.

good morning, year six! morning assembly, but not as you might remember it. here at cubitt town primary school in london, the children lead the way. what do you mean by, like, nationalities or basically, like, different countries around the world? what do you think, reuben? gone are the rows of students sat in silence, facing the front. instead, they're given a voice. different cultures of people make the world the way it is. i think it means like the diversity, like moving from one place to another. oracy has been a big part of the curriculum here for a number of years, and already the benefits are clear. the way how oracy builds on confidence in me, it makes me feel like i'll be less affected by the kind of rude things that other people may say. so it would help me get past the obstacles in life. i put my hand up more and i'm more confident in lessons. what's good i've learnt. is like talking a bit louder. because before i used to be a bit

i quiet and shy and i didn't talk. i so, geoff, we'vejust seen the assembly. what did you make of that? a report out today by education charity voice 21 says communication skills need to be at the heart of the curriculum in all schools in england. and the man leading that report is geoff barton, or as i know him, mr barton. geoff, you used to be my head teacher, 15, 16 years ago, many moons ago. i'm flattered you're still talking to me. how would you have rated my oracy skills? well, i have to blame your parents for your very, very bad behaviour most of the time, kristian. but you did have the gift of the gab, as we say. so well done to them for that. but enough about the past. today's report looks to the future and how oracy can be taught in all subjects wo the adults of tomorrow have the skills they need to overcome any hurdles they might face. so oracy in a sense underpins learning. so it's not something separate from learning your science, learning your maths, learning your geography. it's fundamental to that. and all the evidence says, you will learn your subjects better if you are steeped in how

you articulate that, how you question that, how you listen to that. that needs to be something fundamental, it's the fourth r of education, we would say. voice 21 believes oratory skills can help overcome social barriers. vital for students here who live in the shadow of the capital's financial hub. the wonderful community that we serve here on the isle of dogs has a number of challenges. there's entrenched poverty in the borough. many of our children speak english as an additional language. oracy, we feel, is a kind of key to unlock some of those challenges, to develop skills in our pupils before they move to secondary school that will help them in all manner of ways moving forward in life. it's notjust sports awards the school is winning. cubitt town was one of the first schools in the country recognised as an oracy centre of excellence, with speaking, listening and communicating key parts of all lessons. for us, it was more of a pedagogical approach that weaves throughout the curriculum that impacts in every subject, so that children are talking every day like historians, like geographers, like sports people on the sports field. rather than being an additional thing to workload, it became something that enriched

the curriculum we already had. the government says it welcomes today's report and points towards its own eight—week education review, aimed at building excellent foundations for children in reading, writing and maths, including speaking and listening skills. everyone's unique in their own way and that's what makes us beautiful. those skills are already on show here at cubitt town primary, and could soon be introduced in other schools across the country. kristian johnson, bbc news. i think ithink mr i think mr barton should be very impressed there.— i think mr barton should be very impressed there. he impressed there. yes, very proud! he did a treat impressed there. yes, very proud! he did a great iob- _ we're joined now by assistant headteacher, laura davidge and yearfive pupil, anna. good morning. you study oracy at school, i think— good morning. you study oracy at school, i think a _ good morning. you study oracy at school, i think a lot _ good morning. you study oracy at school, i think a lot of _ good morning. you study oracy at school, i think a lot of us - good morning. you study oracy at school, i think a lot of us think. good morning. you study oracy atj school, i think a lot of us think we know what it is but we don't know the word, so tell us what it is? oracy where you build on word. there

is a statement building, and it helps — is a statement building, and it helps you _ is a statement building, and it helps you speak.— is a statement building, and it helps you speak. ok, so if you are auoin to helps you speak. ok, so if you are going to do _ helps you speak. ok, so if you are going to do that — helps you speak. ok, so if you are going to do that at _ helps you speak. ok, so if you are going to do that at school, - helps you speak. ok, so if you are going to do that at school, what i going to do that at school, what would you talk about? most going to do that at school, what would you talk about?— going to do that at school, what would you talk about? most of the time, we would you talk about? most of the time. we use _ would you talk about? most of the time, we use it _ would you talk about? most of the time, we use it in _ would you talk about? most of the time, we use it in english. - would you talk about? most of the time, we use it in english. so - would you talk about? most of the time, we use it in english. so if. time, we use it in english. so if you talk— time, we use it in english. so if you talk about your subject, like in my class, — you talk about your subject, like in my class, we do warhorse. so most of the lime _ my class, we do warhorse. so most of the time we _ my class, we do warhorse. so most of the time we talk about the army. and what is it like. — the time we talk about the army. jifuc what is it like, do you the time we talk about the army. fific what is it like, do you stand up the time we talk about the army. e'"i:c what is it like, do you stand up in front of the class or do you sit in your group? does it make you feel nervous or excited? i your group? does it make you feel nervous or excited?— nervous or excited? i kind of like it, nervous or excited? i kind of like it. because _ nervous or excited? i kind of like it, because it's _ nervous or excited? i kind of like it, because it's not _ nervous or excited? i kind of like it, because it's not that - nervous or excited? i kind of like it, because it's not that nervous. j it, because it's not that nervous. because — it, because it's not that nervous. because i— it, because it's not that nervous. because i know everybody in my class _ because i know everybody in my class and — because i know everybody in my class. and i feel comfortable sharing — class. and i feel comfortable sharing with them. i class. and i feel comfortable sharing with them. i suppose if you are all doing _ sharing with them. i suppose if you are all doing it, _ sharing with them. i suppose if you are all doing it, nobody _ sharing with them. i suppose if you are all doing it, nobody stands - sharing with them. i suppose if you j are all doing it, nobody stands out, everybodyjust has a go. what do you think you get from doing it? how does it help you in the other things

you do in life? it does it help you in the other things you do in life?— you do in life? it helps me, like, sa m you do in life? it helps me, like, say my sentences _ you do in life? it helps me, like, say my sentences more - you do in life? it helps me, like, say my sentences more better. you do in life? it helps me, like, | say my sentences more better so people — say my sentences more better so people can — say my sentences more better so people can understand more and add more, _ people can understand more and add more. to— people can understand more and add more, to add more information. does it make you — more, to add more information. does it make you more _ more, to add more information. jlir,” it make you more confident when you're out and about meeting people? when you came and met us just now, he gave us a big —— you gave us a big handshake and looked us in the eye. it big handshake and looked us in the e e. ., , , y big handshake and looked us in the e e. ., , , , . eye. it does help my confidence because i know _ eye. it does help my confidence because i know people - eye. it does help my confidence i because i know people understand what i _ because i know people understand what i say — because i know people understand what i say. we because i know people understand whatisa . ~ ., because i know people understand whatisa .~ ., ~ ., because i know people understand whatisa. ., ~ ., ,, , because i know people understand whatisa. ., ~ ., ,, what i say. we love anna! she is a . reat what i say. we love anna! she is a great advert _ what i say. we love anna! she is a great advert for _ what i say. we love anna! she is a great advert for this _ what i say. we love anna! she is a great advert for this idea - what i say. we love anna! she is a great advert for this idea but - what i say. we love anna! she is a great advert for this idea but it - what i say. we love anna! she is a great advert for this idea but it is l great advert for this idea but it is so important for all children to be able to communicate notjust on their phones, but by talking. definitely, it's really important that they can articulate their ideas, develop their understanding and engage meaningfully, that it is really important, with each other�*s ideas. what anna was saying was, we give children talk tactics. that is

the way that talk moves in discussion so they might build on each other�*s ideas or challenge positively. i wanted to positively challenge anna, because she said it is sometimes in english lots of the time, but i know that our goal, oracy is to everything we do, it is the golden thread that runs through our curriculum. thinking about our science, what do we record now? when we do, do we do everything in books? we also speak about it, what we are doing _ we also speak about it, what we are doinu. . we also speak about it, what we are doin. _ ., ., , we also speak about it, what we are doing. that was positively challenging _ doing. that was positively challenging anna. - doing. that was positively challenging anna. we - doing. that was positivelyl challenging anna. we have doing. that was positively - challenging anna. we have talk doing. that was positively _ challenging anna. we have talk moves that she was discussing earlier. they really support children to engage critically with one another�*s opinions, and have a voice within the classroom.— opinions, and have a voice within the classroom. because when i first heard about — the classroom. because when i first heard about this, _ the classroom. because when i first heard about this, talking _ the classroom. because when i first heard about this, talking about - the classroom. because when i first heard about this, talking about it i heard about this, talking about it yesterday, the fact you were coming in, i was imagining that you were going to be standing at a lectern and make a big speech and learning things. but it's not about that, it

isn't so formal?— isn't so formal? no, not really. it's completely _ isn't so formal? no, not really. it's completely exploratory - isn't so formal? no, not really. it's completely exploratory and j it's completely exploratory and presentational talks, there is a need for bias, but lots of what we do in the classroom is exploratory, discussions with children. —— there is a need for both in the classroom. how much of a difference does practice mean? i imagine consistency is really important. it practice mean? i imagine consistency is really important.— is really important. it isn't an add on, and i think— is really important. it isn't an add on, and i think people _ is really important. it isn't an add on, and i think people don't - is really important. it isn't an add on, and i think people don't want| is really important. it isn't an add i on, and i think people don't want to be burdened with more workload but it is not an add on, it runs through everything we do. that is what it should be seen as. i everything we do. that is what it should be seen as.— should be seen as. i think some schools have — should be seen as. i think some schools have always _ should be seen as. i think some schools have always done - should be seen as. i think some schools have always done this. | should be seen as. i think some| schools have always done this. it has been private schools, i know they are really into it. do you think there are room for all schools for this to be part of daily life for this to be part of daily life for everybody? i

for this to be part of daily life for everybody?— for this to be part of daily life for everybody? i think it needs to be at all schools _ for everybody? i think it needs to be at all schools across _ for everybody? i think it needs to be at all schools across the - be at all schools across the country. it gives children a voice so they know they are heard. it's important for later on in life, you know. ., . ., ., ., ., , know. for children who are not as confident as _ know. for children who are not as confident as anna _ know. for children who are not as confident as anna about - know. for children who are not asj confident as anna about struggle, how does it work? it cannot be one size fits all. we how does it work? it cannot be one size fits all-— size fits all. we do that with everything _ size fits all. we do that with everything with _ size fits all. we do that with everything with schools, - size fits all. we do that with everything with schools, we j size fits all. we do that with - everything with schools, we have two scaffold, so we modelled lots in the classroom. we scaffold the talks, we have visuals, we ask children to practice and we rehearse our ideas before sharing. sometimes it might before sharing. sometimes it might be that children have visuals with each other and they talk in smaller groups before talking in a more open forum. we did that before, did it to we practised before coming in so we rehearsed. i we practised before coming in so we

rehearsed. ., ~' we practised before coming in so we rehearsed. ., ~ ., , . rehearsed. i would like to practice! thank ou rehearsed. i would like to practice! thank you so _ rehearsed. i would like to practice! thank you so much _ rehearsed. ! would like to practice! thank you so much for— rehearsed. i would like to practice! thank you so much for coming - rehearsed. i would like to practice! thank you so much for coming in. l rehearsed. i would like to practice! i thank you so much for coming in. not a people are getting in touch about this this morning. would you like to practice your oracy skills there and do some tv presenting? you can do it, anna. look at that camera, can you see the words above it that we pretend are not there? you could read them out. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. well done! hello, good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. passengers that use euston station have told bbc london they're concerned overcrowding that happens in the station is dangerous. network rail is carrying out a review of the station and has already stopped advertising on a new screen on the concourse. passengers say the overcrowding happens regularly. it's just always a crush. and what's awful is there's no sort of predictable time that, you know, is going to be busier than other times. and they announce the trains

like two minutes before you have to get on it. it's always a massive surge. i've had it multiple times i've not been able to get on the train. and it is actuallyjust dangerous. you're so hemmed in, you can't get back out of the station. you've got no chance of getting through. a decision on whether to go ahead with a £9 billion road crossing between kent and essex has been delayed until may. the initial deadline for a decision on the lower thames crossing was due to be last friday. more than £800 million has already been spent on planning. a new statue will be unveiled today of london actor daniel kaluuya. the depiction of the academy award—winning actor willjoin statues showcasing the best of british film as part of the scenes in the square trail in leicester square. the sculpture will show an iconic moment from jordan peele's get out. let's take a look at the tubes now. weather now. today will have sunny spells and showers, with a risk of thunder. showers will gradually ease overnight. highs of 18 degrees. the next update is at around 8.30.

bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. our headlines today. after a record number of sewage spills, the regulator orders water companies in england and wales to refund more than £150 million to customers.

the lebanese government says more than a million people have now been displaced by fighting in the middle east — as israel's prime minister vows to fight on — as long as his country is threatened. the actor david jason reflects on his career, life as del boy and his relationship with the daughter he has only got to know in the past few years. it was a tremendous shock but we have since been meeting and getting together and we are fine, we are lovely, we are getting to know each other which takes a bit of time but, no, she is great and it's very rewarding. good morning. we are nowjust months away from new rules that will see it manufactures rather than local councils paying for recycling like this. but could you, the consumer end up footing the bill? i will find out. good morning. the murky site for

some. overthe good morning. the murky site for some. over the next couple of days we are looking at sunshine and showers, some of which will be and thundery. then it will turn much colder. i will have all the details shortly. it's tuesday the 8th of october. 14 water companies in england and wales are being ordered to pay more than £157 million back to customers because of poor performance — following a year which saw a record number of sewage spills. the regulator 0fwat has just published its annual report. for the second year running, no firm was awarded the highest performance rating — and three were put in the lowest category. our environment correspondent jonah fisher can tell us more. he has been looking through the report. they will be people watching this morning saying, when i get some of my money back? what is the message?— of my money back? what is the messaue? ,, , ., i. message? possibly but only a little bit i think is — message? possibly but only a little bit i think is the —

message? possibly but only a little bit i think is the answer. _ message? possibly but only a little bit i think is the answer. as - message? possibly but only a little bit i think is the answer. as you - bit i think is the answer. as you said, this is basically the annual report card for the 17 water and waste water companies in england and wales. the regulator 0fwat marks them 12 different criteria including things like have they been stopping leaks out of their pipes, reducing pollution incidents? are we as customers are satisfied with what they are doing? very broadly speaking, i have had an hour or so to look at this report and the verdict is it could do better. we are in the bottom category, anglia, southern water and welsh water, that is a lagging category and the others have been lumped together in the average category and none of them have been given the top rating. a short while ago chief executive of 0fwat, the regulator, was on breakfast and this is what he said. we think the sector suffers from culture of poor performance, that companies are not taking

responsibility for their performance. they are too often blaming the weather what the circumstances that they serve their customers. or even the customers themselves. we want them to take response ability is but a much sharper focus on performance which is why we have imposed these penalties. 13 of the 17 water and waste water companies will have to give something back to their customers in the next billing period, but before you get too carried away, to give you get too carried away, to give you one example, i looked at the figures for thames water, the biggest water company in the uk. they have been told to refund £56 million. may sound exciting but if you divide that amongst the nearly 16 million customers they have, well, it comes to about £3.55 reduction for next year. in the context of inflation and the big increases which the water companies want to put in place to fund investment, well, i don't think you will notice it.—

will notice it. thank you very much indeed. will notice it. thank you very much indeed- more _ will notice it. thank you very much indeed. more of _ will notice it. thank you very much indeed. more of the _ will notice it. thank you very much indeed. more of the day's - will notice it. thank you very much indeed. more of the day's news i will notice it. thank you very much l indeed. more of the day's news with jon. the israeli military has carried out further airstrikes on hezbollah targets in beirut overnight, following a day of commemorations marking the first anniversary of the attacks by hamas. the israeli prime minister has vowed to continue the military campaign against hamas and hezbollah — both designated as terrorist organisations by the uk — for as long as they pose a threat. the lebanese government says more than a million people have now been displaced by the fighting. joe inwood reports. beirut — plunged into darkness by this spreading war. huge swathes of the city illuminated only by the explosions of incoming missiles. israel says it is hezbollah positions it's targeting. the people of this city caught in the middle. many are trying to flee —

either to safer parts of the country, or to neighbouring syria. at the main border crossing — recently destroyed by an israeli air strike — the journey is now made on foot. people who fled a civil war in their own country on the move once again. they went to lebanon to escape the war in syria. they are now going back to syria, escaping the war in lebanon. so it gives a sense of the tragic absurdity of the situation that we are living. as civilians move out, ground forces move in. these pictures, released by the israeli defense forces, show the 91st division preparing and then entering lebanon. singing. in israel, it was a night of commemoration as the country remembered the events of the 7th of october, the hamas massacre that [it the touchpaper on this spreading war.

"the battle must not stop ahead of time," said the prime minister. "as long as the enemy is threatening our existence and our country's safety, we will keep fighting. as long as our hostages are in gaza, we will keep fighting." but the official government ceremony was not the only commemoration. in tel aviv, the families of the hostages — around 100 of whom remain in gaza — held their own event with a very different tone. they have often been fiercely critical of the prime minister, and what they see as his focus on fighting a war, rather than bringing theirfamilies home. "exactly one year ago, the most beautiful place — a place filled with joy and hope — turned into hell," he says. "in a single moment, we understood the meaning of being alone." air-raid siren. but it was notjust commemorations that were heard in tel aviv last night —

the sound of air—raid sirens, followed by distant explosions — a reminder that, as this war enters its second year, it is spreading, still. joe inwood, bbc news. a powerful hurricane heading towards the us state of florida has intensified to a dangerous category four storm. large numbers of people are leaving the city of tampa in response to increasingly dramatic warnings from the authorities about the threat posed by hurricane milton, which is expected to make landfall tomorrow. four children have been treated in hospital after their double—decker school bus overturned in county down. police are investigating the circumstances behind the crash. our ireland correspondent chris page reports. the bus toppled over within a few terrifying seconds. very quickly afterwards, there was the rescue, and huge relief. 43 pupils were on board.

one 12—year—old boy told us he was sitting on the upper deck when the crash happened. we started going down that hill and then we just tipped sideways. so i closed my eyes and ijust, like, opened them and i was just laying on the bus floor. people came down and they were smashing the windows and stuff. the farmers. i was, like, crawling under the bars and the school bags were on the floor and stuff. he rung me a couple of minutes before to see if his friend could come, and then he rung back and he wasjust screaming, "the bus has crashed, the bus has crashed!" and everyone was screaming in the background behind him, and it was deafening. and ijust ran out of my house — i've still got my slippers on. got a bit of a banged—up head, but — and a sore arm — but he's here and he's 0k. paramedics, firefighters and the northern ireland air ambulance were all involved in getting pupils out of the bus and giving medical treatment. most of the schoolchildren

on the bus either sustained minor injuries or weren't hurt, but four passengers have been taken to hospital. it's believed none of their injuries are life—threatening. the pupils attend this secondary school nearby. they'll be offered counselling in the coming days. for now, children, parents and teachers are immensely thankful there wasn't even more serious harm. chris page, bbc news, in county down. hopefully we will get an update on that later. conservative mps will eliminate another candidate from the party's leadership contest today. tom tugendhat, james cleverly, robertjenrick and kemi badenoch are the four remaining contenders hoping to succeed rishi sunak in the role. the new leader will be announced on november 2nd. a 12—year—old girl has suffered life—changing injuries following a dog attack in brynmawr, in south wales. a man and woman are being held on suspicion of owning a dog bred forfighting, and owning a dog dangerously out of control.

the animal will be destroyed. the bus operator go—ahead has announced plans to build hundreds of electric buses here in the uk. the company says the half a billion pounds of investment will support 500 manufacturing jobs and speed up the move to a zero—emission fleet. in the united states, the democrats' presidential candidate kamala harris has slammed her republican rival donald trump for his position over the war in ukraine. in a wide—ranging interview, one month before voters go to the polls, the current vice president was pressed on a number of issues including the conflict in the middle east, immigration and gun laws. would you meet with president vladimir putin to negotiate a solution to the war in ukraine? not bilaterally without ukraine. no. ukraine must have a say in the future of ukraine. donald trump —

if he were president — putin would be sitting in kyiv right now. he talks about, oh, he can end it on day one. you know what that is? it's about surrender. kamala harris. here in the uk we don't see many wild animals at our train stations — apart from the odd pigeon. i don't know how wild they are any more. �* ., ., ~ i don't know how wild they are any more, �* ., , i don't know how wild they are any more. �* ., , , more. but look at this in sydney. no! a koala _ more. but look at this in sydney. no! a koala wandering _ more. but look at this in sydney. no! a koala wandering through i more. but look at this in sydney. no! a koala wandering through a| no! a koala wandering through a railway station. _ no! a koala wandering through a railway station. going _ no! a koala wandering through a railway station. going up - no! a koala wandering through a railway station. going up all- no! a koala wandering through a railway station. going up all of. railway station. going up all of those steps! — railway station. going up all of those steps! getting _ railway station. going up all of those steps! getting his - railway station. going up all of those steps! getting his steps| railway station. going up all of. those steps! getting his steps in. doesn't want _ those steps! getting his steps in. doesn't want to _ those steps! getting his steps in. doesn't want to wish, _ those steps! getting his steps in. doesn't want to wish, he - those steps! getting his steps in. doesn't want to wish, he has - those steps! getting his steps in. doesn't want to wish, he has the | doesn't want to wish, he has the whole place to himself. this was at 4am, in casula station. and he... i'm saying he, could be she. and he... i'm saying he, could be she- doesn't _ and he... i'm saying he, could be she. doesn't look _ and he... i'm saying he, could be she. doesn't look distressed. - and he... i'm saying he, could be i she. doesn't look distressed. might be lost.

she. doesn't look distressed. might be lost- the — she. doesn't look distressed. might be lost. the police _ she. doesn't look distressed. might be lost. the police officer _ she. doesn't look distressed. might be lost. the police officer helped to guide the koala back to safety. do you often see a koala wandering around in australia?— do you often see a koala wandering around in australia? koala, wallaby, all over. around in australia? koala, wallaby, all over- in — around in australia? koala, wallaby, all over- in a — around in australia? koala, wallaby, all over. in a few _ around in australia? koala, wallaby, all over. in a few minutes _ around in australia? koala, wallaby, all over. in a few minutes we - around in australia? koala, wallaby, all over. in a few minutes we have i all over. in a few minutes we have an interview with sir david jason talking about his career, the ghost of del boy and united with a daughter he never knew existed. really interesting, revealing. aha, really interesting, revealing. a gorgeous interview. really lovely. at 13 minutes past eight we are going to go to carol with the weather. looks a little bit foggy! absolutely right. good morning. it is foggy for some this morning. this picture was sent in earlier by one of our weather watchers in doncaster. for most, today we are looking at a mixture of sunshine and showers. showery rain pushing

northwards into northern england, southern scotland and northern ireland. behind it, heavy and thundery showers and ahead of it in scotland, a fair bit of cloud. some brightness this afternoon but we have showery rain in the north accompanied by a northerly wind. here is the rain heading into the afternoon. it will be heavy across the north pennines, and across the rest of england and wales it is a mixture of sunshine and some of those heavy showers. through this evening and overnight, the driving our weather pushes a bit further eastwards is that we still have the rain and the showers rotating around it and a cold northerly wind coming in across the north of scotland. overnight lows of seven to 9 degrees. furthersouth, overnight lows of seven to 9 degrees. further south, widely 11 to 13. not as cold. tomorrow we start off with showery outbreaks of rain. the low pressure continuing to drift into the north sea, so it will be eastern areas that have that. still the northerly wind, dry for most,

but it will feel quite raw across northern scotland in that wind. temperatures seven to 16 degrees. as we head beyond that into thursday, down this east coast it will be windy but dry for most with some sunshine around. showers in the south—west and some heavier showers coming into the north—west. look at these temperatures, seven to 13 north to south. that is chilly for the time of year. thank you very much indeed. this time next year, _ thank you very much indeed. this time next year, what _ thank you very much indeed. t"i 3 time next year, what will we be doing? time next year, what will we be doinu ? ., , , , doing? hopefully here, fingers crossed. doing? hopefully here, fingers crossed- be — doing? hopefully here, fingers crossed. be a _ doing? hopefully here, fingers crossed. be a millionaire? - doing? hopefully here, fingers crossed. be a millionaire? i i doing? hopefully here, fingers i crossed. be a millionaire? i would like to be. — crossed. be a millionaire? ! would like to be, shall— crossed. be a millionaire? i would like to be, shall we _ crossed. be a millionaire? ! would like to be, shall we work- crossed. be a millionaire? i would like to be, shall we work on - crossed. be a millionaire? i would like to be, shall we work on it? i crossed. be a millionaire? i would| like to be, shall we work on it? we like to he, shall we work on it? we are talking about del boy, his famous phrase. it's more than 40 years since the nation was first introduced to the wheeler dealer derek trotter — also known as del boy — in the hit bbc series only fools and horses, which made sir david jason a household name. his iconic character became known for his ingenious catchphrases

and witty one—liners — one of which has inspired his new candid memoir, this time next year. it's all about positivity — including meeting his grown—up daughter for the first time. he invited me for a chat at the hotel where he goes to write. thank you. laughter. on this this theme of positivity, are you the kind of person who wakes up in the morning, punches the air and says, "it's going to be a great day!"? sir david sighs. if you do that, you're a better man than i am, gunga din! no, quite the opposite. i am the one who wakes up and... "oh, god..." it takes me an hour to sort of open my eyes, really? of open my eyes, really. but, no, i'm a... i do find it a little bit difficult sometimes trying to get out of bed because it's so comfortable, isn't it? you keep there nice and warm and you then look out and you think, "i've got to get up and i've got

to go out and the room's going to be cold," and all of this stuff goes through your mind. but that's normal, i suppose, for a lot of people. you know, i'm not... i'm not a great fan of getting up in the morning, but once i'm up, i'm up and running — yeah. and the theme that you keep coming back to in the book is that you feel immensely lucky in life. now brace yourself, rodney. if you can find a job that you really enjoy doing, and it pays your wages to live properly — or to live — then you're 100% there in life. it's a couple of years since we last met and chatted on breakfast, and just after we met, you received what you describe in the book as the most astonishing letter you've ever received in your life. take us to that moment when you open the envelope, and talk us through where it's led

to in your life. well, yeah, it was a letter that took me by surprise, and it was from a daughter that i didn't know that i had. and it was a tremendous shock. but we've since been meeting and getting together, and we're fine, we're lovely. we're getting to know each other, which takes a bit of time, but, no, she's great, and it's very rewarding. and it was a total shock — you had no idea that she was out there? no. you called it a fling with another actor — what, nearly 50 years ago. yeah, yeah, it was a... it was a girlfriend. and that part never... i never knew about it. i went off to work in the theatre, and the girlfriend went off to work in her theatre and that was the end of it, really. so... and you've got a grandson, as well? yeah. charlie the hair, i call him. yeah. charlie the hair? yeah. he's got a lot of hair.

he's a good—looking lad. unfortunately, he's got a lot of hair. i'm not so sure that he's quite as amused as i am, calling him charlie the hair. but he has — he'sjust got so much long hair, and i getjealous! i'm terriblyjealous of him. and it's all brown and everything — and mine's not brown, and there's very little of it. it sounds like you've really worked hard to navigate things with your wife and daughter, sophie, and your new—found daughter and grandson, and that it's all blending together as well as it could. yeah. you're right. my wife has been a tremendous help in this direction, and she's been extremely supportive. without that, i don't think i could have managed, quite honestly. but now, because of gill's reaction and her ability to understand has been a remarkable achievement on all our behalves.

it's positive. and, uh, we... it's...the journey, not the arrival. and it's the fun of the journey. and that's just another part of life's rich pattern, or life's rich journey, that it throws at you. along, there are hiccups, there are holes in the pavement occasionally that you have to try to avoid, but you think positive and say, "on the other side of the pavement that's got a big hole in it is where i've got to go and where i've got to be so, um, you know, i'lljust go round that one, but continue forward." that sense of positivity sounds very like a certain derek trotter. yeah, i'm afraid it does. yeah. neverstop believing, eh, bruv? never stop believing.

that derek trotter thing who's like a bit of a ghost that comes along behind me like a christmas carol. that's interesting that you're calling del boy a bit of a ghost in your life. what — do you feel you're a bit haunted by him? well, haunted is perhaps too... no. he's with me all the time — meaning, whether we call it haunted, i... i do say that he's on my back all the time, because wherever i go, people recognise me as that character. and you'll always get people saying, you know, "lovelyjubbly" and all of that. which only hangs me back and only upsets me slightly, because that seems to be the only thing that people remember me for. and that... i'm delighted in one way, that it's reached so many people

and they've enjoyed what i've done with the character, but i've done so many other things that they seem — everybody seems to have forgotten about and it's only — i've only ever played derek trotter. have you seen your face? it was just a glancing blow. well, we can't let everybody know that you're having more fun than i am. come here. now... you've got my mouth. only yours is seeing much more action than mine. this has got to stop, now we've got to make these... still open all hours... yeah. ..had to be shelved because of covid. you were due to make another series, and that didn't happen. and it's still not been made. is there any chance, do you think, that that could still happen? roy clarke, who was the original writer of still open all hours — and open all hours, by the way —

had already half or three—quarters written the whole series for the last, um, series because it's the one where granville and mavis — wavy mavi — they get married, and all of the other characters complete their storylines. because a lot of storylines were left a bit open. it was cancelled originally, as you said, because of covid, and they thought this would really be lovely to wind it all up. we all gave it the green light and it went off to the bbc, and we're still waiting. so if anybody�*s at the bbc and wanted a series that the audiences liked, we've got it ready — ready to go, and it's off and running. it would be great. yes. you'd love to do it — you'd love to tie it all together? yeah, i think so. it would be... would be nice. it'd be also lovely to get back with the cast that we had such good fun with.

i saw him outside the prison. first time in 20 years. most of the stuff that i've done, which i'm very proud of, which is a flag that i carry, is the...no swearing, no vulgar language, no vulgarity. and you think, "well, how did he manage to get those shows to have such a vast audience appeal to so many people?" well, i can say that you can watch the shows that i've done with yourfamily, whatever age your family is, and be confident that there'll be no vulgarity, no rude words, no swearing or whatever. and the reason for that was a conscious effort. i think we're on a winner here, trig. all right? play it nice and cool, son. nice and cool. you know what i mean? one thing you talk about in the book is a slight regret that hollywood

never came calling in a major way. is that something that you feel is an itch that you never really got to scratch? sir david chuckles. that's a good way of putting it. ithink... no. yeah, i've done that. you'd love to have done that. i think it's a romantic image that most actors have, which is the romance of being called "going to hollywood", which is the epicentre of the whole showbiz, and working on the biggest stage in the world. but my real disappointment — or regret, if you like, whichever way you want to put it — was i always wanted, when i was in the theatre, was to be a national theatre player. i always wanted to be on the stage of the national theatre. on the south bank. yeah. it was just that romantic image of playing in those big productions with all those

big, wonderful actors. and...that never, never happened. so... it's never too late. yes, but i wonder whether the old memory would be quite good enough. you know? i could do it with one of those, um... what do you call it? the autocue thing. the monitor. autocue! yeah, some of them do that now, don't they, for being prompted. yes. yeah. good. hey. sorry. yes? national theatre? i'm available. sir david jason, fantastic talking to you on breakfast, as ever. thank you so much for your time. thank you very much, jon. what a lovely man. wouldn't that be great? treading the boards in his mid—80s. great? treading the boards in his mid-80s. ., , , , mid-80s. you get the sense he is actually quite _ mid-80s. you get the sense he is actually quite a — mid-80s. you get the sense he is actually quite a private _ mid-80s. you get the sense he is actually quite a private person. i mid-80s. you get the sense he is| actually quite a private person. for someone so well known, the face so recognisable. he someone so well known, the face so recognisable-— recognisable. he has written and want to talk _ recognisable. he has written and want to talk about _ recognisable. he has written and want to talk about his _ recognisable. he has written and want to talk about his life - recognisable. he has written and want to talk about his life and i

recognisable. he has written and want to talk about his life and he has talked about finding his daughter and the surprise of that. you get the impression... he wants to share the message of positivity, but i think he is more comfortable talking about the career stuff, the anecdotes, people, the parts. ifelt quite sad. he is obviously immensely proud of del boy but it is a shame he feels that it holds him back a bit. when you see those clips of frost and open all hours, darling buds of may, all of the things he has done. lovely to meet him. sir david jason's memoir, this time next year: a life of positive thinking, is out this week. we are definitely up for a bit of positive thinking. ii we are definitely up for a bit of positive thinking.— we are definitely up for a bit of positive thinking. if the national theatre wants _ positive thinking. if the national theatre wants to _ positive thinking. if the national theatre wants to get _ positive thinking. if the national theatre wants to get in - positive thinking. if the national theatre wants to get in touch, i | theatre wants to get in touch, i will take 10% and we will make it happen. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. passengers that use euston station

have told bbc london they're concerned overcrowding that happens in the station is dangerous. network rail is carrying out a review of the station and has already stopped advertising on a new screen on the concourse. passengers say the overcrowding happens regularly. it's just always a crush. and what's awful is there's no sort of predictable time that, you know, is going to be busier than other times. and they announce the trains like two minutes before you have to get on it. it's always a massive surge. i've had it multiple times i've not been able to get on the train. and it is actuallyjust dangerous. you're so hemmed in, you can't get back out of the station. you've got no chance of getting through. the flooding of afc wimbledon's football ground was "totally predictable", a campaign group has said. over 100,000 litres of water was pumped from the stadium after drains backed up two weeks ago. michael burnage, of the save wimbledon stadium action group, told the bbc that developers, the council, city hall and the environment agency were all warned about

the dangers of flooding. merton council and the environment agency have said they are working together to mitigate the risk of future flooding. next a group of teenagers from east london have been welcomed to a former pit village in nottinghamshire. the cultural exchange project is designed to help young people from different deprived communities learn from each other and try new activities including fishing and looking after horses. always been scared of them. and today i faced my fear. i walked a horse. where are you going to walk a horse in east london? there's buses everywhere! i wanted to run away and cry. but then i was like, you know what? once—in—a—lifetime experience — if i don't give it a go, i'm going to regret it. so i'd rather regret doing it than regret not doing it. a new statue will be unveiled today of london actor daniel kaluuya. the depiction of the academy award winning actor will join statues showcasing the best of british film as part of the scenes in the square trail in leicester square. the sculpture will show an iconic moment from jordan peele's get out.

let's take a look at the tubes now. minor delays on the elizabeth line. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. it is another day of sunshine and showers. today's showers, you might get some rumbles of thunder, some hail mixed into it but we still have some sunny spells as well. the showers becoming quite frequent, especially through the afternoon. a moderate southerly breeze but the temperature today, despite the downpours, despite the breeze, still getting up to 18 celsius which is above average for the time of year. now, overnight tonight, we will see further showers rumbling through the evening. beginning to fade as we head through the early hours, becoming a little drier, minimum temperature dropping down to 11 celsius. still a fair amount of cloud in the morning, but that should break, we'll get a few sunny spells, some showers also for wednesday but there is less risk of any thunder through the course of tomorrow. temperatures on wednesday reaching around 17 celsius. the wind is going to start

to strengthen towards the end of the day, then overnight into thursday pick up, quite a brisk northerly wind and that wind is going to feel chilly. should see some sunshine on thursday but temperatures much cooler. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. after a day of commemorations marking a year since the hamas attacks on israel, the conflict in the middle east has continued overnight. the israeli military has carried out further air strikes on hezbollah targets in southern lebanon, with plumes of smoke seen across the beirut skyline and loud explosions heard across the city. in a defiant speech, israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, said his country would continue to fight as long as its existence was threatened. air raid sirens could also be heard in central israel as long range missiles were launched towards tel aviv overnight. hezbollah said it had targeted a military base on the outskirts of the city.

the lebanese government said more than1 million people have been displaced by the escalating fighting, and more than 400,000 people have fled across the border to syria. our reporter tim muffett has been speaking to two fathers, one palestinian and one israeli, who have both lost daughters in this ongoing conflict, but have joined together to help other families and promote peace and reconciliation. we combine our pain in the most positive way possible. for their memory we try to bring life and not death for more kids. rami and bassam both lost daughters in the most horrific circumstances. i lost my 14—year—old daughter, smadar, in a hamas suicide bombing in jerusalem. she was very beautiful.

she was a swimmer, she was a dancer, she was amazing. everybody used to call her the princess. she was killed because she wasjewish. i lost my ten—year—old daughter, abeer. israeli border police shoot and kill her in front of her school. she had a very short life. the pain is there 24 hours. so it's up to you how to use this pain. the parent circle families forum aims to channel pain as well as anger and grief in order to promote peace. we are today more than 750 families who lost their beloved ones during the conflict. we have the moral authority to raise up our voice and to say, no more blood. there is one thing that unites us, israelis and palestinians together, to bring all this message that we have to stop this

endless cycle of violence. how do you go about trying to do that? the only way is to do what me and bassam and the hundreds of bereaved families of the parents circle are doing every day. we go, we speak, we shout out loud, we convey this message that it can be different, that there is another way. you have to be able to respect the guy next to you exactly as you want to be respected. i think we are the majority, the people who want peace. we met the pope about a month ago and we talked to him. we told him exactly the same message and he cried. our message has become our life, 24 hours. simply because we are caring about other kids, our children. we want to protect them. rami, you lost your daughter in 1997. bassam, you lost your daughter in 2007.

there will be many people, though, who've lost loved ones in the last few months, weeks or even days and they may be feeling intense hatred or anger. what do you say to them? we understand, and we respect the anger of people who lost their loved ones, and we offer the ability to listen, and we offer the ability to meet the other side, which is the most important thing. through our activities, through our meetings, many people find themselves in this place and they come to join us. just in the last year, more than 100 families, israelis and palestinians, joined the parent circle. this is such a long term problem, and it's been especially difficult over the past 12 months, and even more so over the past week or so. have there been moments when you've doubted whether peace is actually possible? i feel it to my inner bones that it is possible.

and this is the essence of our message. we are not the first or the last conflict on earth. it's not written anywhere that we are going to continue killing each other forever. i have no doubt that this will end. i think our message is above religion, is above nationality. we are speaking out of our hearts, out of the pain, out of the price that we have paid to create hope. we are family. we are very connected to each other. we deserve to live normal life. our beloved daughters, we hope they are proud of us. that report was that report was from that report was from tim that report was from tim muffett. at ten o'clock on bbc radio 5 live, our correspondents lyse doucet and paul adams will answer some of your questions on the current conflict in the middle east. you can also watch live on the bbc news channel and online.

it's remained intact for hundreds of years, but now what's though to be the uk's longest—lasting patch of snow is melting away because of our warming climate. the formation, in the scottish cairngorms, is known as the sphinx and has been monitored since the 1700s, most recently by citizen scientist iain cameron. this is his story. it is a pilgrimage. you're walking through this sort of almost sacred landscape. when you can go no farther, you come to here and it's like the altar. this is like the holy of holies as far as the snow—patch researcher is concerned. garbh choire mor, where the sphinx is located — it's the most isolated coire in the cairngorms. for the uninitiated, it can be a tricky place to deal with getting to. to start off with, we have a six—mile bikejourney. then we deposit the bikes and we go

up about 2,000—foot climb up the side of braeriach onto the braeriach plateau, and from there it's about another mile and a half across the plateau. and then we drop into a quite a steep gully using a little bit of rope which drops us down into the coire. so it's a bit of an expedition to get here, that's for sure. oh, wow. we're...literallyjust in the nick of time. the sphinx is tiny. i wasn't sure, actually, it was still going to be here, but...it is, but barely, and it's not going to last past probably midnight tonight. this is the patch of snow that, historically speaking, was known to endure through decades and decades — even hundreds of years — without melting. 1933 was the first time it melted, and then again in 1959 — so 26 years later. what we've seen in the last ten years is unprecedented. so it disappeared in 2017,

2018, 2021, '22, '23 - and '24, this is what's left. the direction of travel is obvious. the sphinx is no longer persisting anything like the way it used to do. this is really significant because it is the place that has been monitored the longest. i'm not a climatologist — in fact, i'm not even an academic. i do this as — i would classify it as citizen science. so me and people like me will go out, we'll record it and we'll write about it for the royal meteorological society. it's like coming to see an old relative — you know, you hope that when you get over the hill, it's going to be in good nick and a fair size, but...inevitably, more and more, you're actually quite sad because it's generally a lot smaller than you'd hope it would be. it seems, at least to me, very clear that this is a direct and visual impact of what climate change is actually doing.

beautiful location but sad to see what is happening there. what beautiful location but sad to see what is happening there.- beautiful location but sad to see what is happening there. what a 'ob he is doing, — what is happening there. what a 'ob he is doing, such �* what is happening there. what a 'ob he is doing, such a d what is happening there. what a 'ob he is doing, such a commitment i what is happening there. what a job he is doing, such a commitment as| he is doing, such a commitment as just a volunteer.— just a volunteer. carol has the weather for — just a volunteer. carol has the weather for us, _ just a volunteer. carol has the weather for us, another - just a volunteer. carol has the j weather for us, another lovely just a volunteer. carol has the - weather for us, another lovely scene behind you. indeed, good morning. another murky scene, but it will be sunshine and showers today. there is a gusty wind as well. low pressure is driving our weather bringing rain across england, northern ireland and southern scotland. apart from that it will be sunshine and showers, some shower thundery, not all of us will see one. there is some cloud around to the north of the weather front, showery outbreaks of rain and brightly breaks, and the gasoline northerly wind. —— agust n northerly

wind. this evening and overnight, the low pressure drift is and showers and rain rotate around it. windy through the straits of dover and the channel and strong winds across the north of scotland. that will accentuate the cold feel. tomorrow, our low pressure does push out into the north sea, but around it we will have showers affecting eastern areas. the northerly flow will be across us all. quite windy tomorrow for many but drier towards the west and the south. this represents the strength of the wind gusts. in scotland in the north it will feel quite raw with the wind chill. as we move through the week, into thursday, we are once again looking at low pressure pushing away. this is the remnant of the

former hurricane kirk which will swallow up the low pressure as it pushes east, allowing the northerly wind to penetrate all areas. it will feel cold on thursday but a lot of dry weather around. showers across the south—west, and the north—west with heavier ones arriving late in the day. temperatures on thursday nothing to write home about, eight in the north to 12 in the south, in the south—east the temperature at this time of year should be around about 15. it is the weekend we continue with a chilly feel, some rain coming into the north and west and it will be drier in the south and it will be drier in the south and east. across the atlantic, let's see what is happening with hurricane milton. it was a category five, then downgraded this morning to category four but still a big beast. as it crosses the gulf of mexico, it will

grow in size. at the moment the wind speeds of 155 miles an hour, and it is pushing it across florida. it will make a just to the north of tampa bay, it will have a huge storm surge, 15 feet, as well as the strong winds, we are looking at some heavy rain. that is what we are keeping a close eye on. thousands of --eole keeping a close eye on. thousands of people already _ keeping a close eye on. thousands of people already try — keeping a close eye on. thousands of people already try to _ keeping a close eye on. thousands of people already try to evacuate - keeping a close eye on. thousands of people already try to evacuate some l people already try to evacuate some areas in florida. they seem really concerned about this one. flan areas in florida. they seem really concerned about this one. can you imaiine, concerned about this one. can you imagine. a — concerned about this one. can you imagine, a storm _ concerned about this one. can you imagine, a storm surge _ concerned about this one. can you imagine, a storm surge above - concerned about this one. can you i imagine, a storm surge above ground level of ten to 15 feet? that is a wall of water. i'm not surprised. really scary. wall of water. i'm not surprised. really scary-— really scary. and it has been downgraded _ really scary. and it has been downgraded but _ really scary. and it has been downgraded but it _ really scary. and it has been downgraded but it is - really scary. and it has been downgraded but it is still- really scary. and it has been | downgraded but it is still bad. drink manufacturers say new recycling rules could mean customers paying higher prices and some producers may go out of business altogether. nina's at a recycling facility

in south east london this morning with the details. she has been going through the rubbish, basically? it is good, she has found some treasure. end rubbish, basically? it is good, she has found some treasure. and some ants! pa nts! good pants! good news, i saved your underpants from earlier, don't panic! 2 million londoners' waste comes here, plastic, paper, aluminium in the corner, this is a sign of the times. do you remember when every car had a big map it? i think we are in shrewsbury there. lots of people throwing them out now. janice has work to for 12 years. you have seen all sorts that londoners have put in the bin, what have you spotted? bicycles, designer clothing and bags, scooters. e—cigarettes, lots

of things. bags, scooters. e-cigarettes, lots ofthinas. , , ., of things. somebody put an entire car enaine of things. somebody put an entire car engine it _ of things. somebody put an entire car engine it wants, _ of things. somebody put an entire car engine it wants, what - of things. somebody put an entire car engine it wants, what were - of things. somebody put an entire | car engine it wants, what were they thinking? i car engine it wants, what were they thinkina ? ., �* ~ ., ., , thinking? i don't know what they were thinking! _ thinking? i don't know what they were thinking! it _ thinking? i don't know what they were thinking! it keeps - thinking? i don't know what they were thinking! it keeps you - thinking? i don't know what they | were thinking! it keeps you busy. thinking? i don't know what they - were thinking! it keeps you busy. as thins were thinking! it keeps you busy. as things stand. _ were thinking! it keeps you busy. as things stand, recycle _ were thinking! it keeps you busy. as things stand, recycle like _ were thinking! it keeps you busy. as things stand, recycle like this - were thinking! it keeps you busy. as things stand, recycle like this is - things stand, recycle like this is funded by the local authority but from april, the onus will shift to the manufacturers. the government's hope is that pollutants will begin to pay. that is everything, paper, plastic, aluminium, all funded by the manufacturers. it always comes at a cost, whenever we see progress. for class for example, it will be a cost of around 9p for a 500 meant —— millimetre bottle. some manufacturers are fed up with this cost as we found as we spoke to a cordial maker in nottinghamshire. for class because it is heavy, the costs are astronomical. the prospective intermediate rate which is the middle one which they are

guarding us towards is about two thirds of my annual profits every year. they expect us to pass that on to consumers as if nothing happens at the consumer pays. the impact will probably push some very small producers out of business, it will really hurt us. producers out of business, it will really hurt us— really hurt us. let's speak with adam who _ really hurt us. let's speak with adam who edits _ really hurt us. let's speak with adam who edits the _ really hurt us. let's speak with adam who edits the magazine | really hurt us. let's speak with i adam who edits the magazine the grocer. you hearfrom loads of manufacturers all the time and you can understand why small businesses are saying this is a cost at a time when they cannot manage it. fii when they cannot manage it. of course, this when they cannot manage it. (zii course, this scheme has been when they cannot manage it. iii course, this scheme has been six years at the making. the idea behind it is that manufacturers pave waste rather than the consumer. there are lots of arguments, —— pay for the waste rather than the consumer. it's extremely challenging whilst adding inflation as well. you

extremely challenging whilst adding inflation as well.— inflation as well. you have got to break eggs _ inflation as well. you have got to break eggs to — inflation as well. you have got to break eggs to make _ inflation as well. you have got to break eggs to make an _ inflation as well. you have got to | break eggs to make an omelette, inflation as well. you have got to - break eggs to make an omelette, for progress to happen, things like this have to happen. thea;t progress to happen, things like this have to happen-— progress to happen, things like this have to happen. they do, we produce millions of tonnes _ have to happen. they do, we produce millions of tonnes of _ have to happen. they do, we produce millions of tonnes of waste _ have to happen. they do, we produce millions of tonnes of waste in - have to happen. they do, we produce millions of tonnes of waste in this - millions of tonnes of waste in this country. and the industry needs to be motivated to use less of it and recycle more of it. these are the right outcomes. crucially that might not happen if the scheme is set up in the right way. at the same time there are arguments for and against different substrates are packaging materials because they all pay different amounts. there is controversy there. at the end of the day we all need to recycle ball and then crucially, that creates more recycled content which can be reused in packaging going forward. it’s a in packaging going forward. it's a bit like the _ in packaging going forward. it's a bit like the landfill _ in packaging going forward. it's a bit like the landfill tax, _ in packaging going forward. it's a bit like the landfill tax, when that first came in, the idea it was too expensive but look at the progress that created. the government says it will do two things, it will make businesses think more about how much

packaging they use and in the long term it will simplify packaging. and so the price will come down. and it will create jobs so the price will come down. and it will createjobs as so the price will come down. and it will create jobs as well. what we have learned here and there recycling plant is how much that has been binned on purpose, things like car accident but they —— car engines but they also find rings and mobile phones on the recycling belt and they reunite them. a massive thank you, they finished at 6:30am and we kept walking until 6:45am and they were too polite to say anything —— were too polite to say anything —— we kept them working. bud were too polite to say anything -- we kept them working.— were too polite to say anything -- we kept them working. and you are aioin to we kept them working. and you are going to pay _ we kept them working. and you are going to pay them _ we kept them working. and you are going to pay them from _ we kept them working. and you are going to pay them from your- going to pay them from your overtime? it going to pay them from your overtime?— going to pay them from your overtime? , .y . ., overtime? it will be recycled from our overtime? it will be recycled from your wages! _ overtime? it will be recycled from your wages! there _ overtime? it will be recycled from your wages! there is _ overtime? it will be recycled from your wages! there is anything - overtime? it will be recycled from i your wages! there is anything worse than a night — your wages! there is anything worse than a night shift, _ your wages! there is anything worse than a night shift, we _ your wages! there is anything worse than a night shift, we know- your wages! there is anything worse than a night shift, we know they - your wages! there is anything worse than a night shift, we know they are| than a night shift, we know they are tough, to work a little bit further than you think!— tough, to work a little bit further than you think! thank you to them. we have had _ than you think! thank you to them. we have had a _

than you think! thank you to them. we have had a production - than you think! thank you to them. we have had a production line - than you think! thank you to them. we have had a production line this| we have had a production line this morning, a national treasure production line. and now we have got rick astley after we had david jason earlier. rick astley was just 21 when his debut album catapulted him to global fame. over the last 40 years, he has sold a staggering 40 million records. now, in his first—ever memoir, we get to meet the man behind the music. we'll speak to rick in a moment but first let's have a reminder of some of those iconic hits. # make you understand # never gonna give you up # never gonna let you down # never gonna run around and desert you # never gonna make you cry # never gonna say goodbye # never gonna tell a lie and hurt you... # togetherforever and never to part # together forever, we two... # why don't i see her cry for help?

# why don't i feel her cry for help? # something inside you sets me free... # believing # can't lose that human feeling # if anybody has the answer # the question's never in doubt # some say life is a dancer and rick astleyjoins us now. you are on a lovely walk in that video. . . , you are on a lovely walk in that video. ., ., , , ., ,, video. that was in denmark, actually- _ video. that was in denmark, actually- as _ video. that was in denmark, actually. as a _ video. that was in denmark, actually. as a special- video. that was in denmark, actually. as a special place l video. that was in denmark, i actually. as a special place for ou? actually. as a special place for you? yes. _ actually. as a special place for you? yes. my _ actually. as a special place for you? yes, my wife _ actually. as a special place for you? yes, my wife is - actually. as a special place for you? yes, my wife is danish i actually. as a special place for. you? yes, my wife is danish and actually. as a special place for- you? yes, my wife is danish and my dauihter you? yes, my wife is danish and my daughter lives _ you? yes, my wife is danish and my daughter lives there. _ you? yes, my wife is danish and my daughter lives there. it's _ you? yes, my wife is danish and my daughter lives there. it's a - daughter lives there. it's a gorgeous place, it is a home from home. do gorgeous place, it is a home from home. , ., gorgeous place, it is a home from home. ,, . gorgeous place, it is a home from home. i. ., ., gorgeous place, it is a home from home. ., ., ,. home. do you have a music career there? yes. _ home. do you have a music career there? yes. we — home. do you have a music career there? yes, we do _ home. do you have a music career there? yes, we do a _ home. do you have a music career there? yes, we do a lot _ home. do you have a music career there? yes, we do a lot of - home. do you have a music career there? yes, we do a lot of gigs i there? yes, we do a lot of gigs there,

there? yes, we do a lot of gigs there. we _ there? yes, we do a lot of gigs there, we played _ there? yes, we do a lot of gigs there, we played a _ there? yes, we do a lot of gigs there, we played a lot - there? yes, we do a lot of gigs there, we played a lot of - there? yes, we do a lot of gigs| there, we played a lot of bigger festivals and some of the cosy ones, it's great. we festivals and some of the cosy ones, it's areat. ~ ., ., , ., ., it's great. we are in a period now where you _ it's great. we are in a period now where you are — it's great. we are in a period now where you are reflecting - it's great. we are in a period now where you are reflecting now? i it's great. we are in a period now. where you are reflecting now? yes, iaettin to where you are reflecting now? yes, getting to that _ where you are reflecting now? yes, getting to that age, _ where you are reflecting now? yes, getting to that age, that _ where you are reflecting now? is: getting to that age, that age. it's a lot of things. i have been asked about doing a book many times. i was even asked in my 20s and i would like, you have got to be kidding! there's been a few things in the last few years, some amazing things have happened and some of the gigs we have done, releasing new music as well and stuff. also our daughter, well and stuff. also our daughter, we have one child, our daughter, she is in her 30s now and it feels like thatis is in her 30s now and it feels like that is showing me that i have had quite a life and maybe there is a bookin quite a life and maybe there is a book in it. quite a life and maybe there is a book in it— quite a life and maybe there is a book in it._ there i quite a life and maybe there is al book in it._ there you book in it. this is her? there you no. book in it. this is her? there you go- when — book in it. this is her? there you go- when you — book in it. this is her? there you go. when you talk _ book in it. this is her? there you go. when you talk about - book in it. this is her? there you go. when you talk about her, - book in it. this is her? there you i go. when you talk about her, what i love is, go. when you talk about her, what i love is. for— go. when you talk about her, what i love is, for the _ go. when you talk about her, what i love is, for the first _ go. when you talk about her, what i love is, for the first half _ go. when you talk about her, what i love is, for the first half of - go. when you talk about her, what i love is, for the first half of her - love is, for the first half of her life, she was not remotely aware of her dad being musician. iigi life, she was not remotely aware of her dad being musician.— her dad being musician. not really, i had been famous, _ her dad being musician. not really, i had been famous, obviously, - her dad being musician. not really, i had been famous, obviously, and| i had been famous, obviously, and she was aware of it but it never really was part of her life. i'm

saying that, we should ask add... let's get her on the phone! i’m let's get her on the phone! i'm re let's get her on the phone! i'm pretty sure _ let's get her on the phone! i�*"n pretty sure she knew that there was a career there but she wasn't affected. ., ., ~' . a career there but she wasn't affected. ., ., a career there but she wasn't affected-— a career there but she wasn't i affected— and a career there but she wasn't affected. ., ., _ and ou affected. look at that baby! and you are literally a _ affected. look at that baby! and you are literally a hands-on _ affected. look at that baby! and you are literally a hands-on dad, - affected. look at that baby! and you are literally a hands-on dad, you - are literally a hands—on dad, you walked away from music and spent a load of time with her at home. i was ve luc load of time with her at home. i was very lucky in — load of time with her at home. i was very lucky in the _ load of time with her at home. i was very lucky in the sense _ load of time with her at home. i was very lucky in the sense that - load of time with her at home. i was very lucky in the sense that i - load of time with her at home. i —" very lucky in the sense that i had had my 15 minutes as it were in music, and actually got the time to really be at home and stuff. most parents, whenever my dad, don't get to do that. i was super lucky in that respect. == to do that. i was super lucky in that respect-— to do that. i was super lucky in that respect. to do that. i was super lucky in that resect. ., ,, that respect. -- never mind dad. she has been a — that respect. -- never mind dad. she has been a big _ that respect. -- never mind dad. she has been a big part _ that respect. -- never mind dad. she has been a big part of _ that respect. -- never mind dad. she has been a big part of your— that respect. -- never mind dad. she has been a big part of your music - has been a big part of your music career in this section, she's really involved. , �* , ., career in this section, she's really involved. , �*, ., ., , ., , ., involved. yes, it's a family affair, m wife involved. yes, it's a family affair, my wife manages _ involved. yes, it's a family affair, my wife manages me. _ involved. yes, it's a family affair, my wife manages me. our- involved. yes, it's a family affair, i my wife manages me. our daughter involved. yes, it's a family affair, - my wife manages me. our daughter has been special in the sense of when the whole thing kicked off in the

internet with the memes, she put me straight. internet with the memes, she put me straiiht. ~ . internet with the memes, she put me straiiht. . ., ., ., _ internet with the memes, she put me straiht. . ., ., ., ,, ., internet with the memes, she put me straight-— shel straight. what do mean by that? she exlained straight. what do mean by that? she explained that _ straight. what do mean by that? she explained that even _ straight. what do mean by that? she explained that even though - straight. what do mean by that? she explained that even though i - straight. what do mean by that? she explained that even though i am - straight. what do mean by that? she explained that even though i am the | explained that even though i am the guy in the beam, rick rowley, it really isn't about me and it could have been about anybody. —— rick rolling. she has the perspective being of the internet generation to say that. it has been amazing, some of the ways that she has said certain things to be and they have landed quite heavily, in a good way. it's good to have a barometer from that age group. we it's good to have a barometer from that age group-— it's good to have a barometer from that age group. we spoke to you last ear ahead that age group. we spoke to you last year ahead and _ that age group. we spoke to you last year ahead and after— that age group. we spoke to you last year ahead and after your _ year ahead and after your glastonbury show, amazing, absolutely brilliant.- glastonbury show, amazing, absolutely brilliant. i absolutely brilliant. thank you. i remember _ absolutely brilliant. thank you. i remember you _ absolutely brilliant. thank you. i remember you saying _ absolutely brilliant. thank you. i remember you saying you - absolutely brilliant. thank you. i remember you saying you had i absolutely brilliant. thank you. i - remember you saying you had dropped her off at glastonbury to go as a punter. her off at glastonbury to go as a unter. �* ., , punter. but had ever been in there. was she one _ punter. but had ever been in there. was she one of _ punter. but had ever been in there. was she one of the _ punter. but had ever been in there. was she one of the reasons - punter. but had ever been in there. was she one of the reasons that i punter. but had ever been in there. | was she one of the reasons that you did it? i was she one of the reasons that you did it? ., �* _ was she one of the reasons that you did it? ., �* did it? i wouldn't say there reason, she was there _ did it? i wouldn't say there reason,

she was there because _ did it? i wouldn't say there reason, she was there because she - did it? i wouldn't say there reason, she was there because she had - did it? i wouldn't say there reason, i she was there because she had been a long time. that was an amazing weekend, everything we did with blossoms as well, it was like a fairy tale. it blossoms as well, it was like a fairy tale-— blossoms as well, it was like a fai tale. �* ., ., fairy tale. it couldn't have gone better. fairy tale. it couldn't have gone better- you _ fairy tale. it couldn't have gone better. you say _ fairy tale. it couldn't have gone better. you say you _ fairy tale. it couldn't have gone better. you say you walked - fairy tale. it couldn't have gone. better. you say you walked away fairy tale. it couldn't have gone - better. you say you walked away from your 15 minutes, you stepped away from it? to your 15 minutes, you stepped away from it? ., , from it? to some degree, definitely, eah. from it? to some degree, definitely, yeah- what — from it? to some degree, definitely, yeah- what was _ from it? to some degree, definitely, yeah. what was it _ from it? to some degree, definitely, yeah. what was it like to _ from it? to some degree, definitely, yeah. what was it like to have - yeah. what was it like to have represented _ yeah. what was it like to have represented back _ yeah. what was it like to have represented back to _ yeah. what was it like to have represented back to you? - yeah. what was it like to have represented back to you? it i yeah. what was it like to have i represented back to you? it has yeah. what was it like to have - represented back to you? it has been a aradual represented back to you? it has been a gradualthing- _ represented back to you? it has been a gradualthing. i _ represented back to you? it has been a gradual thing. i started _ represented back to you? it has been a gradual thing. i started doing - a gradual thing. i started doing gigs in a very small way, i'm talking tiny small. and then i went and did retro gigs, we went to japan where i sang all of my old songs again. but it was a family thing, wife and daughter kate, that's the reason we went to be honest because they really wanted to go to japan. __ my they really wanted to go to japan. —— my wife and daughter came. so we did that. but i have just got into it more and more. there hasn't been the same pressure. i started off with the biggest record in my career and it has all been downhill from

then on. it's a strange thing when you start off with a record that big to try and chase that forever. everybody at the label, management tried to do that, but now it has gone the other way, where it has ramped up and we have gone to gigs and having a nice time.— and having a nice time. there is the son: riaht and having a nice time. there is the song right now- _ and having a nice time. there is the song right now. we _ and having a nice time. there is the song right now. we heard _ and having a nice time. there is the song right now. we heard from - and having a nice time. there is the song right now. we heard from sir i song right now. we heard from sir david jason earlier and he said the fact that the character of del boy was his equivalent to that song. everybody thinks about that character and sometimes they don't think about his other work that he is more proud of sometimes. do you think similarly? i do is more proud of sometimes. do you think similarly?— think similarly? i do understand that, he's think similarly? i do understand that. he's an — think similarly? i do understand that, he's an actor, _ think similarly? i do understand that, he's an actor, it _ think similarly? i do understand that, he's an actor, it is - think similarly? i do understand that, he's an actor, it is a - that, he's an actor, it is a character he played, but that song is part of my dna, it's part of my life, is the reason i am sat here in truth because it started with that. even today wherever we go, in american at different places, we are in a bar in the middle of wisconsin and i know people know that soul and

thatis and i know people know that soul and that is weird. it's also something to be grateful for. that is weird. it's also something to be gratefulfor. if that is weird. it's also something to be grateful for. if someone wants to be grateful for. if someone wants to play it, i am like, get it on. it's brilliant, isn't it? accept it, don't run away from it. acceptance is the key to _ don't run away from it. acceptance is the key to happiness, _ don't run away from it. acceptance is the key to happiness, boom! - is the key to happiness, boom! acceptance is the key to happiness. there you go. x�*t�*ou acceptance is the key to happiness. there you go— acceptance is the key to happiness. there you go. you talk about family, our wife there you go. you talk about family, your wife and — there you go. you talk about family, your wife and daughter _ there you go. you talk about family, your wife and daughter in _ there you go. you talk about family, your wife and daughter in your- your wife and daughter in your books, and growing up, the fact that you found it easier to tell the story of your child now your parents are not around.— are not around. yes, i had an unusual— are not around. yes, i had an unusual upbringing, - are not around. yes, i had an unusual upbringing, my - are not around. yes, i had an i unusual upbringing, my parents divorced when i was four or know of the youngest of four. there are so many things, my dad was a character to say the least. the way we grew up was very unusual. {flare to say the least. the way we grew up was very unusual.— was very unusual. give me an example? _ was very unusual. give me an example? here _ was very unusual. give me an example? here we _ was very unusual. give me an example? here we go. - was very unusual. give me an example? here we go. my i was very unusual. give me an| example? here we go. my dad was very unusual. give me an - example? here we go. my dad had a business so — example? here we go. my dad had a business so he _ example? here we go. my dad had a business so he had _ example? here we go. my dad had a business so he had to _ example? here we go. my dad had a business so he had to change - example? here we go. my dad had a business so he had to change that i business so he had to change that business so he had to change that business at one point, so he ended

up business at one point, so he ended up with a field and nothing in it and he said he was good to turn it into a garden centre. in the process and that he said, i have sold the house that we live in and we are going to live in a portakabin on the field while we build the gun centre. all of you? field while we build the gun centre. all of ou? , , ., all of you? yes, the three sons at least -- while _ all of you? yes, the three sons at least -- while we _ all of you? yes, the three sons at least -- while we build _ all of you? yes, the three sons at least -- while we build the - all of you? yes, the three sons at| least -- while we build the garden least —— while we build the garden centre. that was the least cool thing possible at school but was also kind of cool. it was a double edge to think of a very strange indeed. as a teenager, it was amazing. i used to drive pick—up trucks, forklift trucks. i5 amazing. i used to drive pick-up trucks, forklift trucks.— trucks, forklift trucks. is that ou? trucks, forklift trucks. is that you? yeah. _ trucks, forklift trucks. is that you? yeah, that _ trucks, forklift trucks. is that you? yeah, that is _ trucks, forklift trucks. is that you? yeah, that is the - trucks, forklift trucks. is that - you? yeah, that is the beginning of the carden you? yeah, that is the beginning of the garden centre. _ you? yeah, that is the beginning of the garden centre. he _ you? yeah, that is the beginning of the garden centre. he sold - you? yeah, that is the beginning of the garden centre. he sold it - you? yeah, that is the beginning of the garden centre. he sold it years| the garden centre. he sold it years ago. but it has become this huge garden centre on the edge of the town were from. he had a vision of what god and said it was going to be and he was unusual. —— he had a vision of what garden centres was

going to be. it wasn't always fun, i am laughing now. i going to be. it wasn't always fun, i am laughing now-— am laughing now. i wonder if that has made you _ am laughing now. i wonder if that has made you what _ am laughing now. i wonder if that has made you what you _ am laughing now. i wonder if that has made you what you are - am laughing now. i wonder if that| has made you what you are down. am laughing now. i wonder if that i has made you what you are down. it has made you what you are down. ii made me crave normality. when my career was at the point where we could keep going in my mid—20s, i said, i would actually like, also i was a dad, i want our daughter to have some normality, not being at the back of a tour bus. nothing wrong with that... it the back of a tour bus. nothing wrong with that. . .— wrong with that... it was your version of _ wrong with that... it was your version of aborted _ wrong with that... it was your version of aborted cabin. - wrong with that... it was your i version of aborted cabin. which wrong with that... it was your - version of aborted cabin. which if everyone is happy —— of a portacabin. ii everyone is happy -- of a portacabin— everyone is happy -- of a ortacabin. i. , ., , _ portacabin. if everyone is happy, it is fine. portacabin. if everyone is happy, it is fine- ltut— portacabin. if everyone is happy, it is fine- but i _ portacabin. if everyone is happy, it is fine. but i didn't _ portacabin. if everyone is happy, it is fine. but i didn't want _ portacabin. if everyone is happy, it is fine. but i didn't want to - portacabin. if everyone is happy, it is fine. but i didn't want to do - portacabin. if everyone is happy, it is fine. but i didn't want to do it i is fine. but i didn't want to do it any more. i have had a very privileged life but it has been relatively normal considering what i did my early 20s. that has been one of the most valuable things in my whole life, a bit of normality. ifind whole life, a bit of normality. and a lot of music _ whole life, a bit of normality. and a lot of music as _ whole life, a bit of normality. and a lot of music as well. like - whole life, a bit of normality. and a lot of music as well. like i - whole life, a bit of normality. and a lot of music as well. like i say, | a lot of music as well. like i say, i have had _ a lot of music as well. like i say, i have had a _ a lot of music as well. like i say, i have had a privileged _ a lot of music as well. like i say, i have had a privileged life - a lot of music as well. like i say, i have had a privileged life and i a lot of music as well. like i say, i i have had a privileged life and i'm not escaping that but i have tried to inject some normality in our daughter's life and our family life.

fantastic to have been here, lovely to chat. rick's autobiography, never, is out on october 10th. stay with us, headlines coming up. live from london, this is bbc news.

israel continues its bombardment of beirut — and says it's killed another senior hezbollah commander. benjamin netanyau says there'll be no early end to his country's military campaigns, describing the military offensive as a sacred mission. us forecasters issue dire warnings about the threat from hurricane milton, as it barrels towards florida. and conservative mps prepare to eliminate another candidate from the party leadership contest. welcome to the programme, i'm lewis vaughan—jones. we start with the latest on the middle east. israel says it has killed the commander of hezbollah's headquarters in an air strike on the lebanese capital. it comes after israel's prime minister described his

country's year—long military campaign as a "sacred mission"