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as follows. kemi badenoch 30. james cleverly 39. robert jenrick 31. and tom tugendhat 20. as a result of that ballot, tom tugendhat is eliminated from the contest, and the fourth ballot will take place tomorrow between 130 and tpm in the space between the top three candidates, kemi badenoch, james cleverly and robert jenrick. the result will be announced tomorrow at 3:30pm. thank you very much for your attendance. this there we go. tom tugendhat eliminated from the conservative party leadership race. he received the fewest number of votes from his party mps so he is out. we will have
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another elimination tomorrow. helen is standing by. you another elimination tomorrow. helen is standing by.- helen is standing by. you got the results _ helen is standing by. you got the results there _ helen is standing by. you got the results there of _ helen is standing by. you got the results there of that - the results there of that ballot and tom tugendhat goes out. he was broadly expected to lose out today in this round. it is interesting if you look at the numbers, tom tugendhat with 20 votes, he went back one from the last round when he got 21, robertjenrick had been in the lead in each round until this one, he had 33 votes in the last one but now it is 31. kemi badenoch has increased by two votes but the big win in this round is james cleverly. last time he was joint last with tom tugendhat with 21 votes but he has leapt up to 39. it was suggested he had had a pretty good party conference last week and he really made the most of the opportunity he had to talk to members. his
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speech was very well received. that seems to have followed through, the momentum, and translated into the votes of mps and 39 isjust translated into the votes of mps and 39 is just one off the magic number of a0 that would secure him a place in the final round. , ., ., , round. remind us of what this means for— round. remind us of what this means for the _ round. remind us of what this means for the different - means for the different perspectives within the party. what wings of the party are now represented?— what wings of the party are now represented? tom tugendhat was seen as a centrist _ represented? tom tugendhat was seen as a centrist candidate - seen as a centrist candidate and he had a lot of links to the one nation group which are moderate conservatives, and they have lost one of those candidates off the ballot which leaves james cleverly, he's also seen as a centrist, and then kemi badenoch and robert jenrick further to the right and they have been making their pitch much more to the right of the party. you now have a choice of those trees so it will be interesting to see
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whether the final pair that gets put to the membership have the contest between the centrist vision and the right vision or do they end up with two candidates of the right and choosing between them? what choosing between them? what kind of difference _ choosing between them? what kind of difference does - choosing between them? what kind of difference does it - choosing between them? what kind of difference does it make and how far apart are the visions of the party and do we have an idea of what the policy differences are?— have an idea of what the policy differences are? each candidate has set out _ differences are? each candidate has set out various _ differences are? each candidate has set out various bits - differences are? each candidate has set out various bits of - has set out various bits of policy and quite a lot of it overlaps but they do have slightly distinct positions, all three of them have committed to spending 3% of gdp on defence, but some have a timeframe and others don't. kemi badenoch has been pitching on what she calls a return to first principles rather than necessarily picking on specific policies so she's talking about what makes the conservatives conservative and she's talking about smaller government and more personal responsibility.
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james cleverly is talking about lower taxes and smaller government and robertjenrick has gone big on immigration. he is the only one left in the contest who said he would put a numerical cap on net migration and he said he would cap this in the tens of thousands. there are bits of overlap but they also have quite distinct policy differences and also differences and also differences in character because it is not all about policy and part of being the leader of the opposition and also part of being prime minister which is what they would like to be, is to do with character and approach on how you interact with people and that has been on display as well over the last few weeks. let me run through the numbers again. james cleverly, the front runner with 39 votes received from his fellow mps. robertjenrick on 31. kemi badenoch on 30. tom tugendhat
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at the bottom on 20. now knocked out. so what is the process from now until we get the new leader?— process from now until we get the new leader? there will be a further round _ the new leader? there will be a further round of _ the new leader? there will be a further round of voting, - the new leader? there will be a further round of voting, around| further round of voting, around this time tomorrow, where those three candidates will become two and when the final two are chosen, ballot papers will be sent out to the conservative party membership and we should expect them to start landing about next week, and they will have a couple of weeks to vote for their choice and they are mostly encouraged to do that online with some postal voting as well, the ballot closes on the 31st of october, the day after the budget, and we will get the final announcement and result on the 2nd of november. 2nd of november is the key date. can we learn anything from the last couple of leadership elections for the conservative party? on the type
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of candidate that the members end up choosing? it is of candidate that the members end up choosing?— end up choosing? it is always dangerous — end up choosing? it is always dangerous to _ end up choosing? it is always dangerous to generalise - end up choosing? it is always dangerous to generalise too l dangerous to generalise too much about the members and what they want but demographically, they want but demographically, they tend to be older and the tent to lean a bit more to the right so the working assumption is that robertjenrick would go down very well with the members and also kemi badenoch and last week she really did capture a lot of people with her speech. people said they really enjoyed what she said and the way she was putting it. but do not discount james cleverly if you makes it into the final two —— if he. it is difficult to generalise about individual members and we will have to see where it goes but in the past they have generally tended to go more towards the right, if you look towards liz truss, she was victorious over rishi sunak, the last time it went to
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the membership, because when rishi sunak was elected, there was nobody standing against him. the leadership contest before that was boris johnson againstjeremy before that was borisjohnson againstjeremy hunt and boris johnson was the winner. but it was also the membership who chose david cameron in the 20005 chose david cameron in the 2000s so you cannot generalise too much and you have got to wait and see.— wait and see. let's focus on the new _ wait and see. let's focus on the new front _ wait and see. let's focus on the new front runner, - wait and see. let's focus on | the new front runner, james cleverly. the new front runner, james cleverly-— cleverly. interesting candidate, - cleverly. interesting candidate, he - cleverly. interesting candidate, he has. cleverly. interesting - candidate, he has been, there was a lot of discussion about whether he would run but he has been pitching himself as the most experienced candidate and he is a former home secretary, former foreign secretary, and having history and government does come with baggage so he was very much one of the faces of the previous government under rishi sunak and liz truss and borisjohnson, and because he is a pretty talented media performer, he is pretty recognisable from those
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governments. he is pitching that as experience and a positive, that he knows how to work in government and he knows how to get things done but the flip side is that it comes with the baggage of all of those previous administrations. let's focus on the — previous administrations. let's focus on the man _ previous administrations. let's focus on the man who - previous administrations. let's focus on the man who was - focus on the man who was knocked out, tom tugendhat. some were expecting that this would be the moment he would fall out of the race.— fall out of the race. tom tugendhat _ fall out of the race. tom tugendhat is _ fall out of the race. tom tugendhat is the - fall out of the race. tom | tugendhat is the shadow security minister and he was the security minister in the last government and he has been an mp since 2015 in tonbridge in kent and has also spent time in kent and has also spent time in the army and he made a lot about his career in the army. his slogan was served, lead, act, and he was deemed as being solid and competent but also having strong links to the one nation wing of the party and it was always felt that might be where he was not able to
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broaden that appeal to the wider membership. and of course the mps. he did run in a previous contest which eventually elected liz truss although he never made it as far as the membership. it was widely expected that this was probably the point where he would exit the contest. he had a good conference last week, there was tom tugendhat merchandise last week, fake tattoos, coffee cups, so he did a good job of creating a buzz about his run but it was always felt that he was probably not going to make it into the final two. �* , going to make it into the final two. �*, , ., ., two. let's focus now on those who are behind _ two. let's focus now on those who are behind james - two. let's focus now on those i who are behind james cleverly, just to remind you, james cleverly with 39 votes from conservative party mps, so he is now the frontrunner, second
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place is kemi badenoch, forgive me, robertjenrick with 31, and just behind him is kemi badenoch with 30 and then tom tugendhat with 20. we are down to the final three members. talk me through the other two and we have talked a bit about james cleverly so now let's hear about kemi badenoch and robertjenrick. hear about kemi badenoch and robert jenrick.— robert jenrick. kemi badenoch was the business _ robert jenrick. kemi badenoch was the business sector - robert jenrick. kemi badenoch was the business sector in - robert jenrick. kemi badenoch was the business sector in the | was the business sector in the last government and is seen as a pretty big thinker, pitching herself on the idea of going back to first principles and looking at what it means to be a conservative, so she has a reputation for being a bit, not shying away from a fight, and one of her supporters acknowledged that she was great but he felt she could start a fight on an empty room. she said she's not going after the
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anti—woke agenda but she says she is standing up for what she believes and she does not shy away from confrontation, so to some people that is appealing but others worry it will land them in the sort of issues they have seen in the past where we have seen in the past where we have seen in the past where we have seen the infighting and having to clarify things and that sort of confusion. robert jenrick started off as the front runner and he has had a very slick campaign and he was the immigration minister in the last government but he resigned from that post. used to be more centrist but he has moved to the right in the last couple of years. he has been very well prepared and resourced and his team are pretty confident and they have been throughout that he will reach the final two. he seems to have a good base of support last week and it has held up. he has gone back a couple but his team were not expecting to pick up that many votes in this round. i'm going
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to see if we can grab somebody... note. iwill try to see if we can grab somebody... note. i will try to talk to somebody. —— no. you are back injames cleverly. you are back injames cleverly. you are the mpa? are back in james cleverly. you are the mp4?— are back in james cleverly. you are the mpa? east grinstead and uckfield, the _ are the mpa? east grinstead and uckfield, the mid — are the mpa? east grinstead and uckfield, the mid sussex - are the mpa? east grinstead and uckfield, the mid sussex area, . uckfield, the mid sussex area, one of— uckfield, the mid sussex area, one of the new seats in the boundary _ one of the new seats in the boundary changes.- one of the new seats in the boundary changes. why james cleverl ? boundary changes. why james cleverly? he's _ boundary changes. why james cleverly? he's a _ boundary changes. why james cleverly? he's a very - cleverly? he's a very approachable - cleverly? he's a very . approachable candidate, cleverly? he's a very - approachable candidate, and i must — approachable candidate, and i must say, congratulations to all the — must say, congratulations to all the candidates, we have had all the candidates, we have had a great — all the candidates, we have had a great race, we started with a wider— a great race, we started with a wider field including mel stride _ wider field including mel stride and priti patel and we have — stride and priti patel and we have got— stride and priti patel and we have got down to the four today including — have got down to the four today including tom tugendhat who is my near— including tom tugendhat who is my near neighbour and has run a great _ my near neighbour and has run a great campaign with some great colleagues on his campaign and reached — colleagues on his campaign and reached out to new voters and younger — reached out to new voters and younger voters. reached out to new voters and youngervoters. between reached out to new voters and younger voters. between them, james _ younger voters. between them, james what he said on the conference stage, about
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conservative voting being normal, _ conservative voting being normal, to bring the pride back to our— normal, to bring the pride back to our party, that resonated with — to our party, that resonated with many and that has given him — with many and that has given him the — with many and that has given him the manson today but it has been _ him the manson today but it has been a _ him the manson today but it has been a big — him the manson today but it has been a big challenge —— that has — been a big challenge —— that has given— been a big challenge —— that has given him the momentum today~ — has given him the momentum today. the next stage is out to the members after the next round — the members after the next round which is really crucial and — round which is really crucial and then— round which is really crucial and then above all the countries that we have got to win everybody back. he countries that we have got to win everybody back.- win everybody back. he has itched win everybody back. he has pitched himself _ win everybody back. he has pitched himself as - win everybody back. he has pitched himself as the - win everybody back. he has| pitched himself as the figure of experience but that comes with baggage and we have seen that in the last few days where people have questioned his role in opening the negotiations around the chagos islands, for example, so do you worry his previous links are a drawback? i have got plenty of baggage after — i have got plenty of baggage after having been a minister for the — after having been a minister for the last eight years in various— for the last eight years in various roles, with work on very— various roles, with work on very proud of, and that is what james — very proud of, and that is what james is — very proud of, and that is what james is putting forward, that a lot— james is putting forward, that a lot of— james is putting forward, that a lot of the work we have done we are — a lot of the work we have done we are proud of, and looking at chagos — we are proud of, and looking at chagos islands, there was 18 months _ chagos islands, there was 18 months of negotiations and the
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opportunity to talk and we always _ opportunity to talk and we always talk to our friends and neighbours and those around us but labour is the government have — but labour is the government have capitulated on the chagos islands — have capitulated on the chagos islands and will not tell us about— islands and will not tell us about how much it has cost and ifeel— about how much it has cost and i feel they— about how much it has cost and i feel they have made the world even _ i feel they have made the world even more insecure. my near neighbour— even more insecure. my near neighbour in crawley is pretty aghast— neighbour in crawley is pretty aghast at what has happened, he had 40 _ aghast at what has happened, he had 40 minutes notice and that is disgraceful.— is disgraceful. james cleverly would never _ is disgraceful. james cleverly would never have _ is disgraceful. james cleverly would never have agreed - is disgraceful. james cleverly i would never have agreed these negotiations? it is would never have agreed these negotiations?— negotiations? it is very difficult _ negotiations? it is very difficult as _ negotiations? it is very difficult as foreign - negotiations? it is very - difficult as foreign secretary do not — difficult as foreign secretary do not engage with people about whatever they want but it is not about the negotiations and engagement, it is about the agreement, and the agreement has been — agreement, and the agreement has been agreed by labour government and a foreign secretary in the chamber who would — secretary in the chamber who would not say how much it has cost _ would not say how much it has cost and — would not say how much it has cost and will not be clear about _ cost and will not be clear about any insecurity that has come — about any insecurity that has come with it and you would expect— come with it and you would expect negotiations to happen so for— expect negotiations to happen so for me, james has been upfront _
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so for me, james has been upfront. if you have done nothing _ upfront. if you have done nothing in politics and stood for nothing, guess what, everybody will like you, but if you have _ everybody will like you, but if you have done the work, of course _ you have done the work, of course people will have a view. he is _ course people will have a view. he is now — course people will have a view. he is now the last centrist standing in the contest and his —— historically the members have been slightly to the right of the party, can he command enough support? we of the party, can he command enough support?— of the party, can he command enough support? we are fighting the local elections _ enough support? we are fighting the local elections and _ enough support? we are fighting the local elections and i - enough support? we are fighting the local elections and i have - the local elections and i have a by—election in my own patch right— a by—election in my own patch right now. _ a by—election in my own patch right now, and the spring elections which will be many county— elections which will be many county elections and a chance to give — county elections and a chance to give a _ county elections and a chance to give a vote on what the feeble _ to give a vote on what the feeble labour government is actually— feeble labour government is actually doing. there's an opportunity withjames actually doing. there's an opportunity with james cleverly at the _ opportunity with james cleverly at the helm to set the direction of travel. and of course _ direction of travel. and of course people are going to have a view— course people are going to have a view on — course people are going to have a view on centrists, right or left, — a view on centrists, right or left, and _ a view on centrists, right or left, and i'm proud of the party, _ left, and i'm proud of the party, we are pragmatic
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compassionate caring conservative party and sometimes very broad church gives— sometimes very broad church gives challenges but i think james _ gives challenges but i think james can unify those challenges and above all we have — challenges and above all we have got to bring a coherent message as the official opposition to labour and to do thatj'ob — opposition to labour and to do thatjob well and i thinkjames has got — thatjob well and i thinkjames has got that experience. that job well and i thinkjames has got that experience. thanks for “oininr has got that experience. thanks forj'oining us- — has got that experience. thanks forjoining us. that _ has got that experience. thanks forjoining us. that is _ has got that experience. thanks forjoining us. that is mims - forjoining us. that is mims davis who is supporting james cleverly. as you said, james cleverly. as you said, james cleverly has picked up the most momentum in this round, quite a largejump from where momentum in this round, quite a large jump from where he was momentum in this round, quite a largejump from where he was in the second round, 21 votes up to 39, the biggestjump throughout the contest, so he seems to have some momentum behind him. seems to have some momentum behind him-— behind him. i'm going to run throu~h behind him. i'm going to run through the _ behind him. i'm going to run through the results - behind him. i'm going to run through the results and - behind him. i'm going to run through the results and the l through the results and the numbers to let you catch your breath and see if you can catch anybody else walking past.
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these are the numbers that we have. we have a new front runner, james cleverly. this is not the final result, by the way. you just need enough votes to get into the next round so james cleverly is not home and dry. you can see the latest round of voting there. james cleverly was seen as having a good party conference and he performed well and that seems to have had a bump effect on him and a big jump in the number of party mps who are supporting him. we now have the final three in the race. james cleverly, kemi badenoch, robert
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jenrick, and that will become two pretty quickly, tomorrow, and then the final two will be heading out to notjust conservative party mps but also conservative party mps but also conservative party mps but also conservative party members, so members of the public who are signed up as members of the conservative party, they will choose between the two candidates who are left. and then after the members have had their say, with their voting, we will find out who the new leader of the conservative party is going to be, after rishi sunak decided to step down after the pretty devastating defeat at the general election. we can go back to helen. what have you been picking up? bit back to helen. what have you been picking up?— back to helen. what have you been picking up? bit of a scrum here. been picking up? bit of a scrum here- there _ been picking up? bit of a scrum here. there are _ been picking up? bit of a scrum here. there are some _ been picking up? bit of a scruml here. there are some supporters of as many candidates —— of the various candidates. we are
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hoping to grab somebody to have a chat with. i can see some robertjenrick supporters down here and wejust robertjenrick supporters down here and we just spoke to mims davies who is supporting james cleverly. tom tugendhat was the candidate who went out in this round. a huge amount of pitching and spinning at the concert has been going on since the 2ath ofjuly, that is when nominations opened. it started before the party conference. 0riginally we had five contenders but we are now down to just three. the conservative party conference was dedicated to the subject of picking a leader so they have had a long time to woo the party members and we are getting close to the final two. and we are getting close to the finaltwo. down and we are getting close to the final two. down to three today and then two tomorrow and then
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it will be up to the party membership to choose. we don't know how many party members there are because they do not publish their figures unlike other parties but from the last time the contest was held in 2022, around 172,000 conservative party members, so you are looking at that sort of number of people who will choose the eventual winner of the contest. the eventual leader of the opposition. they will take up the post on the 2nd of november. rishi sunak still filling in thejob 2nd of november. rishi sunak still filling in the job as the acting leader of the opposition and that is why you will have still seen him doing prime minister's questions over the last couple of months. who are you supporting? i last couple of months. who are you supporting?— you supporting? i am john cooper. — you supporting? i am john cooper. the _ you supporting? i am john cooper, the mp _ you supporting? i am john cooper, the mp for - you supporting? i am john i cooper, the mp for dumfries you supporting? i am john - cooper, the mp for dumfries and galloway— cooper, the mp for dumfries and galloway and i'm supporting robert — galloway and i'm supporting robertjenrick. he has a plan and — robertjenrick. he has a plan and the — robertjenrick. he has a plan and the ability to unite the two — and the ability to unite the two sides of the party and i
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think— two sides of the party and i think he _ two sides of the party and i think he can draw people from both— think he can draw people from both sides. he has people like mark— both sides. he has people like mark fran ois who is on the right— mark fran ois who is on the right and _ mark fran ois who is on the right and also people who are a bit more — right and also people who are a bit more on the other side. does — bit more on the other side. does he _ bit more on the other side. does he have the policy is to do this? he has gone very hard on immigration and he is now seen as being very much more to the right so will he be the right person to win back voters that you lost to the lib dems? the idea that he is part of a lurch — the idea that he is part of a lurch to— the idea that he is part of a lurch to the right is nonsense, and i— lurch to the right is nonsense, and i think— lurch to the right is nonsense, and i think he is seeking common ground and immigration came _ common ground and immigration came up— common ground and immigration came up on the doorstep, and i know— came up on the doorstep, and i know this — came up on the doorstep, and i know this myself, and even in rural— know this myself, and even in rural dumfries and galloway people _ rural dumfries and galloway people were concerned, it is not an— people were concerned, it is not an obsession but it is an issue. — not an obsession but it is an issue. and _ not an obsession but it is an issue, and his view on the echr issue, and his view on the echr is correct, — issue, and his view on the echr is correct, and renegotiating it is— is correct, and renegotiating it is not— is correct, and renegotiating it is not really going to fly, so we _ it is not really going to fly, so we have got to get rid of it, so we have got to get rid of it. but— so we have got to get rid of it. but he _ so we have got to get rid of it, but he has got a proper plan~ _ it, but he has got a proper plan he _ it, but he has got a proper plan. he has got a lot to talk about— plan. he has got a lot to talk about on— plan. he has got a lot to talk about on the economy and the nhs, _ about on the economy and the nhs, things that matter to people _ nhs, things that matter to --eole. , nhs, things that matter to neale, , nhs, things that matter to n-eole. , ,
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people. his campaign has been very slick. _ people. his campaign has been very slick, right _ people. his campaign has been very slick, right from _ people. his campaign has been very slick, right from the - very slick, right from the start, his team have been confident he will get into the final two, so why do you think thatis, final two, so why do you think that is, that sense of confidence?- that is, that sense of confidence? . , ., , confidence? that is what he is all about- _ confidence? that is what he is all about. in _ confidence? that is what he is all about. in the _ confidence? that is what he is all about. in the campaign - confidence? that is what he is| all about. in the campaign you see how— all about. in the campaign you see how he might lead the party if he _ see how he might lead the party if he is _ see how he might lead the party if he is elected, he has been very— if he is elected, he has been very precise with a lot to say, and _ very precise with a lot to say, and he's _ very precise with a lot to say, and he's not winging it, he's not— and he's not winging it, he's not making it up as he goes along, _ not making it up as he goes along, and i think that is really— along, and i think that is really important. do along, and i think that is really important.- along, and i think that is really important. do you think he has got — really important. do you think he has got broad _ really important. do you think he has got broad appeal? - really important. do you think he has got broad appeal? do | really important. do you think. he has got broad appeal? do you think he's distinctive? yes. think he's distinctive? yes, es, think he's distinctive? yes, yes. and — think he's distinctive? yes, yes. and l _ think he's distinctive? yes, yes, and i think _ think he's distinctive? yes, yes, and i think it - think he's distinctive? yes, yes, and i think it came - think he's distinctive? yes, i yes, and i think it came from think he's distinctive? yes, - yes, and i think it came from a long _ yes, and i think it came from a long way— yes, and i think it came from a long way behind. he did not have — long way behind. he did not have the _ long way behind. he did not have the recognisability of other— have the recognisability of other candidates but it is testament to the fact now that he will— testament to the fact now that he will probably be in the final— he will probably be in the final two and i think he is well— final two and i think he is well on _ final two and i think he is well on his way to the final. who— well on his way to the final. who would you prefer? it is not about that- _ who would you prefer? it is not about that. it _ who would you prefer? it is not about that. it is _ who would you prefer? it is not about that. it is wonderful - about that. it is wonderful that— about that. it is wonderful that we _ about that. it is wonderful that we have got so many potential leaders here and any
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of the — potential leaders here and any of the four could do a good job and i_ of the four could do a good job and i think— of the four could do a good job and i think the loss of tom tugendhat is a shame because i have _ tugendhat is a shame because i have a _ tugendhat is a shame because i have a lot — tugendhat is a shame because i have a lot of time for him but that— have a lot of time for him but that is— have a lot of time for him but that is where we are and i think— that is where we are and i think rob could go the distance.— think rob could go the distance. ., , . a ., , distance. robert jenrick was seen as the _ distance. robert jenrick was seen as the frontrunner - distance. robert jenrick was seen as the frontrunner in i distance. robert jenrick was i seen as the frontrunner in the contest but today he has gone backwards, 33 down to 31, so are you concerned? the numbers are you concerned? the numbers are interesting, _ are you concerned? the numbers are interesting, and _ are you concerned? the numbers are interesting, and what - are you concerned? the numbers are interesting, and what they i are interesting, and what they reveal— are interesting, and what they reveal is— are interesting, and what they reveal is interesting and what they— reveal is interesting and what they conceal is vital, so the numbers— they conceal is vital, so the numbers are reflecting of a little — numbers are reflecting of a little bit _ numbers are reflecting of a little bit of a surge that james _ little bit of a surge that james cleverly got coming off his speech at conference but the momentum is still with rob, a bit _ the momentum is still with rob, a bit of— the momentum is still with rob, a bit of tactical voting today, and i— a bit of tactical voting today, and i think we might see that disappear tomorrow. and i think we might see that disappeartomorrow. how disappear tomorrow. how confident _ disappear tomorrow. how confident are _ disappear tomorrow. how confident are you - disappear tomorrow. how confident are you that - disappear tomorrow. howl confident are you that your disappear tomorrow. firm? confident are you that your man is going to get the a0 votes he needs? is going to get the 40 votes he needs? ~ , , ., , is going to get the 40 votes he needs? ~ ,,., , ~ is going to get the 40 votes he needs? ~ ,,., , . ., needs? absolutely. we are completely _ needs? absolutely. we are completely confident - needs? absolutely. we are completely confident and l needs? absolutely. we are i completely confident and i'm sure — completely confident and i'm sure he — completely confident and i'm sure he will be in the final two. — sure he will be in the final two, absolutely.— sure he will be in the final two, absolutely. thanks for “oininu two, absolutely. thanks for joining us- _
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two, absolutely. thanks for joining us. that _ two, absolutely. thanks for joining us. that is - two, absolutely. thanks for joining us. that is a - two, absolutely. thanks for joining us. that is a robert| joining us. that is a robert jenrick supporter, talking about the reasons why he is backing him. he quickly emerged as the frontrunner. kemi badenoch spoke about being a front in the race and robert jenrick came forward from the first round of voting, and then after party conference last week he did not capitalise on the opportunity as much as james cleverly. he gave a pretty well received speech but it did not get the reception that james cleverly did and he did not seem to capitalise on it in the same way. there was a full rory about a campaign video he had released —— there was a for bit of fuss about the campaign video he had released. so that may have played into it as well and what we have seen reflected in the voting results from mps, is a bit of what
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happened at the conservative party conference last week. robertjenrick falling back slightly but still in second place and james cleverly coming out well ahead and looking like he has got the momentum as of today. he has got the momentum as of toda . . ., today. reflecting on the campaign _ today. reflecting on the campaign as _ today. reflecting on the campaign as a _ today. reflecting on the campaign as a whole - today. reflecting on the campaign as a whole so| today. reflecting on the - campaign as a whole so far, because the worry is for political parties, that when they have a choice and a range of views and potential candidates, the party spends a lot of time attacking each other and the longer it goes on, the more you can start repeating those messages and maybe criticising other candidates, so how is the process been seen so far? 0ne process been seen so far? one that process been seen so far? 0ne thatis process been seen so far? one that is pretty respectful? that was at risk. — that is pretty respectful? that was at risk, that _ that is pretty respectful? that was at risk, that the - that is pretty respectful? twat was at risk, that the people running it had weighed up, and at the beginning injuly, the 1922 committee, the committee of conservative mps that runs this contest, they said there were going to set up a yellow
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card system because they did not want blue on blue action and they did not want candidates tearing lumps out of each other because we saw how they went in the 2022 leadership contest, when you think back to the five way tv debate with rishi sunak and liz truss squaring up to each other which was not seen as very helpful. so all the candidates were told not to do that and most of them seem to have stuck to that. ., ., to that. helen, thanks for “oininu to that. helen, thanks for joining us- _ to that. helen, thanks for joining us. helen - to that. helen, thanks for joining us. helen there i to that. helen, thanks for joining us. helen there in| to that. helen, thanks for. joining us. helen there in the house of commons. just to quickly remind you, we can have a look at the current state of the voting for the new leader of the conservative party. james cleverly is the new frontrunner. tom tugendhat has been eliminated. another round of voting tomorrow where three will be whittled down to
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of voting tomorrow where three will be whittled down to two before the vote goes to the party members. 0r before the vote goes to the party members. or the headlines coming up at the top of the hour. now we have the weather. hello there. we haven't seen a great deal of sunshine today, and with a lot of cloud continuing through the rest of the day, we've got some further showers or some longer spells of rain, even the chance of some thundery downpours in southern parts of england and wales. but at least for the moment, it's mild. the highest temperatures will be for england and wales. widely 16 degrees, could again make 18 or 19 in east anglia and the south east, but there'll be some further heavy, perhaps thundery, downpours for england and wales into the evening. it does become a bit drier later in the night, but there's more cloud and some patchy rain affecting scotland and perhaps for a while into northern ireland as well. and with a lot of cloud, it's going to be difficult to see the meteor shower overnight. it does indicate a mild night. lows of 7 or 8 degrees in scotland. heading into tomorrow, some showers will develop
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in england and wales. not as many or as heavy as today, but a stronger wind developing in the north will blow more rain southwards across eastern scotland into the north east of england, western scotland and for much of the day northern ireland should be drier, but it's going to feel colder in northern areas and across the board temperatures are going to be a bit lower than today — 16 in the southeast, where the winds are light, but heading to scotland and northern ireland, we're getting a northerly wind developing here. we've got some stronger winds, though, around biscay on wednesday. that area of low pressure contains remnants of ex—hurricane kirk. it's going to be missing us, but as it slides up towards scandinavia, it allows that northerly wind to push colder air right the way down across the whole of the country for thursday. it's certainly going to be a chilly start out there. many places could be dry on thursday with some sunshine. we've got a few showers around these exposed coasts, and the strongest of the winds will be around the north sea coast as well. so a particularly cold feel here, but temperatures are going to be lower everywhere. we're looking at ten degrees in the central belt of scotland, perhaps 12 in southern parts of england and wales.
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so quite a drop from what we're seeing at the moment. heading into friday, and that northerly wind will have changed. we've got lighter winds for many parts of the country, a westerly breeze in scotland bringing in cloud and some rain elsewhere. it's likely to be dry with some sunshine, a chilly start again, maybe some mist and fog and temperatures 11 or 12 degrees. and over the weekend, temperatures may rise just a little bit, but not very much. scotland, northern ireland, more likely to see some rain. much of england and wales will be dry through the weekend with some sunshine and a bit of mist and fog. live from london. this is bbc news. israel expands its ground operation against hezbollah —
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