how to face the same challenge, how to rebuild the party which took an absolute pummelling at the general election. so far none of them have set out a full perception but we are about to get that result. as chairman of the 1922 committee and returning officer in the _ committee and returning officer in the leadership contest, i can— in the leadership contest, i can now_ in the leadership contest, i can now give you the results of the fourth _ can now give you the results of the fourth and final parliamentary ballot, which is good — parliamentary ballot, which is good news. 120 mp5 voted and i can report — good news. 120 mp5 voted and i can report the numbers of votes for each — can report the numbers of votes for each candidate as follows. kemi — for each candidate as follows. kemi badenoch 42 votes. james cleverly— kemi badenoch 42 votes. james cleverly 37 votes. and robert jenrick— cleverly 37 votes. and robert jenrick 41 _ cleverly 37 votes. and robert jenrick 41 votes. as a result

of that— jenrick 41 votes. as a result of that ballot, james cleverly is eliminated from the contest and kemi _ is eliminated from the contest and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick— and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick now go forward to the ballot — jenrick now go forward to the ballot of— jenrick now go forward to the ballot of members. thank you very— ballot of members. thank you very much— ballot of members. thank you very much for your attendance. there _ very much for your attendance. there you — very much for your attendance. there you have it. the final two who are going through to the party members vote went that conservative party leadership race gets to its final stage are going to be robertjenrick and kemi badenoch. that is in some ways quite a surprise because in yesterday's vote james cleverly ca me yesterday's vote james cleverly came out top with 39. today i will recount the numbers. james cleverly got 37 mps voting for him. robertjenrick 41 and kemi badenoch came out top having come last yesterday with 42

mps. come last yesterday with 42 mp5. 120 mp5 come last yesterday with 42 mps. 120 mps voted, that is because rishi sunak did not vote in this. he said he wasn't going to vote in the membership vote. i am going to go straight to central lobby and join my colleague ben wright to get some reaction. quite a surprise given what we were just talking about, about how everyone seemed to be seen in westminster at that james cleverly was going to be one of the final two. flan cleverly was going to be one of the final two.— the finaltwo. can i “ust ed_ the finaltwo. can i 'ust erased from i the finaltwo. can i 'ust erased from the h the finaltwo. can ijust erased from the record | erased from the record everything i was saying to you before it cuts to bob blackman? what was fascinating was there were gasps in the room as that result was called by bob blackman. nobody here thought james cleverly was going to be knocked out. he seemed to have an unassailable lead and momentum. it is so important in politics, he had the momentum yesterday and yet kemi badenoch

topped the poll with a 42, robertjenrick one votes behind with 41, james cleverly knocked out. the choice is now kemi badenoch and robertjenrick, two candidates who i think we can characterise as being on the right of the party. that is an astonishing turnaround and we are now going to try and understand how those votes shuffled around in this final ballot to produce that result. tory party members will be pleased because many, according to the polls, and people i have spoken to as well, wanted kemi badenoch to be in that final pairing. she is now in the race, it is a fight between kemi badenoch and robert jenrick. �* , kemi badenoch and robert jenrick. �*, , ., jenrick. let's remind people of this numbers _ jenrick. let's remind people of this numbers again. _ jenrick. let's remind people of this numbers again. robert . this numbers again. robert jenrick got 41, kemi badenoch 42, so she came out top this time and james cleverly is now knocked out of the race, former foreign secretary, former home secretary on 37. that is quite remarkable because the numbers were yesterday had a james

cleverly out in front with 39, robertjenrick was at 31 and kemi badenoch at 30. this day with us. william atkinson is the assistant editor of conservativehome — a news outlet covering conservative politics. they are independent of they are independent of the party but supportive of it. the party but supportive of it. he joins us now from wimbledon. he joins us now from wimbledon. i was watching your feet when i was watching your feet when that result came in and i saw that result came in and i saw you gasp. clearly you are quite you gasp. clearly you are quite surprised. in surprised. in you gasp. clearly you are quite surprised-— you gasp. clearly you are quite surprised-— surprised. in many ways this was a result _ surprised. in many ways this was a result _ surprised. in many ways this was a result nobody - surprised. in many ways this surprised. in many ways this was a result nobody - surprised. in many ways this was a result nobody was - was a result nobody was - was a result nobody was expecting, which as someone who was a result nobody was expecting, which as someone who has to procrastinate on has to procrastinate on politics as a living is politics as a living is embarrassing. what is most embarrassing. what is most interesting on this result is interesting on this result is it is the result we expected it is the result we expected the final two would be about a the final two would be about a month or two ago before party two ago before party month or two ago before party conference and all the speeches conference and all the speeches and even some of the candidates and even some of the candidates really began campaigning. it is really began campaigning. it is

fascinating that any single fascinating that any single day, robertjenrick day, robertjenrick has gone from looking like he was losing omentum might be overhauled by kemi badenoch, and now badenoch going from third to first, but jenrick, is catching up with her. and james cleverly, who for the last week we have been burdened by describing as the frontrunner, has dropped out. truly remarkable. i frontrunner, has dropped out. truly remarkable.— truly remarkable. i was going to sa a truly remarkable. i was going to say a reminder _ truly remarkable. i was going to say a reminder of - truly remarkable. i was going to say a reminder of how- to say a reminder of how unpredictable politics is. we have seen it in leadership contests before, often the favourites get knocked out. what do you think the party membership is likely to go for it now? you have two candidates who are perhaps ideologically closer than they were to james cleverly. but what is the mood music in terms of what the membership might go for? fin music in terms of what the membership might go for? on the revious membership might go for? on the previous point. — membership might go for? on the previous point, the _ previous point, the conservative party likes to

describe itself as the most sophisticated electorate in the world, which i think it goes to show the extent of some of their egos but also results like this

they both have been saying. the ma'or they both have been saying. tie: major complaint so they both have been saying. ti9: major complaint so far they both have been saying. ti9 major complaint so far about kemi badenoch plasma contain is perhaps it has too little policy and the major complaint aboutjenrick is it has too much. badenoch is outlining the project vision that both governments of the last 25—30 years has built up this nebulous framework which has meant they cannot deliver to voters, whether that is making the country more prosperous or building homes, or reducing immigration. by contrast reducing immigration has been the centre of robertjenrick�*s pitch, that was after all the reason why he resigned from the cabinet and he is promising not only a cap on legal migration of also campaigning on the idea of also campaigning on the idea of leaving the echr which is a turnaround for somebody who voted to remain in 2016. but nevertheless he suggests previous efforts to stop the boats and reduce illegal migration and get rid of people here in this country illegally have not works because of that

existing legal structure, whereas kemi badenoch suggests that might be necessary but not sufficient. there is a lot we need to do at home first. there are differences on the echr will come into their own in the next weeks is a crucial dividing line. whoever wins out, it suggests the internal debate in exhibitor party is farfrom over. debate in exhibitor party is far from over.— debate in exhibitor party is far from over. stay with us. any moment _ far from over. stay with us. any moment we _ far from over. stay with us. any moment we will - far from over. stay with us. any moment we will return | far from over. stay with us. i any moment we will return to far from over. stay with us. - any moment we will return to my colleague who is in central lobby. just a reminder if you are tuning in to us. the breaking news we have had in the last few minutes that james cleverly, the former home and foreign secretary is now out of the leadership for the conservative party. you can see on the screen that kemi badenoch came out with a 42 votes, james cleverly got 37 a nd votes, james cleverly got 37 and he is out of the race, and robertjenrick came in second at 41 votes. now the mps have

decided the final two, that vote will go to the conservative party membership. we will not get a result until the beginning of november. let's return to my colleague who is in central lobby in the houses of parliament. are you getting any reaction yet from conservative mps to this news? not yet, they are starting to come down to central lobby now and we will grab some of various supporters of the candidates as soon as i can. i think what is interesting looking at those numbers is, if my maths are right, five votes separate james cleverly and robertjenrick. they are tightly bunched together. kemi badenoch cannot say she is the clear favourite among tory mps and nor can robertjenrick. i think that does matter a bit when they take this argument and their campaign to the party members. one of them would have liked to be able to say i have the overwhelming clear backing of mps, it would be a mistake

to do anything different. but now they will not be able to. only if foot separates the two of them, kemi badenoch and robertjenrick. it does mean ideologically the choice is fairly similar between them. they are both on the right of the both party, have a tough line on immigration. robert jenrick has been more specific about some of the policies he would like to see on immigration were he to be leader of the party, kemi badenoch has topped in broader philosophical terms about where she sees the future of conservatism, but there is still eight few weeks to go in this contest for those positions to be flushed out and interrogated and scrutinise. take us through what exactly happened, i suspect there will be lots of hustings as the two go around associations across the country to drum support up. if you could take us through what the next stages are, until the 2nd of november, when we finally get that result? that is riaht,

finally get that result? that is right. the _ finally get that result? that is right, the online - finally get that result? that is right, the online ballot i finally get that result? trait is right, the online ballot of tory party members of this on october the sonnets are very tense and it runs through two october at the 31st, and there will be plenty of hustings. they will hit what is known in business to politics as the rubber chicken circuit, as they go around constituency parties, eat a lot of dinners, shake a lot of hand i make a lot of switches, selling their message to the tory party electorate, about 140, won 50,000 party members who will have the deciding say in this contest. they can see the choice the mps have given them. i they can see the choice the mps have given them.— have given them. i will let you crab have given them. i will let you grab some _ have given them. i will let you grab some people. _ have given them. i will let you grab some people. i— have given them. i will let you grab some people. i have - grab some people. i have actually _ grab some people. i have actually got _ grab some people. i have actually got andrew - grab some people. i have actually got andrew barry grab some people. i have - actually got andrew barry with me. hello. there were gasps in the room when that result was announced. i the room when that result was announced-— announced. i was one of the --eole announced. i was one of the peeple sawing. _ announced. i was one of the peeple sawing. i _ announced. i was one of the people gasping, i don't - announced. i was one of the| people gasping, i don't think people gasping, idon't think anybody— people gasping, i don't think anybody expected the results to be quite — anybody expected the results to be quite what it was, but obviously delighted that kenny topped the ballot and has won this round, and now goes out to the party— this round, and now goes out to

the party membership as the members' favourite. very happy and delighted mps have combined her today. and delighted mps have combined her toda . ~ :, :, her today. what are the whisners _ her today. what are the whispers and _ her today. what are the whispers and rumours l her today. what are the - whispers and rumours behind the scenes, how is james cleverly gone from what looked like an unchallengeable place in first yesterday to be knocked out of this, what happened? xtour yesterday to be knocked out of this, what happened? your guess is as aood this, what happened? your guess is as good as _ this, what happened? your guess is as good as mine. _ this, what happened? your guess is as good as mine. all— this, what happened? your guess is as good as mine. all i - this, what happened? your guess is as good as mine. all i know - is as good as mine. all i know is as good as mine. all i know is that— is as good as mine. all i know is that kemi topped the ballot today— is that kemi topped the ballot today with 42 votes. 42 colleagues have said they want her as— colleagues have said they want her as our— colleagues have said they want her as our leader. now it is up for the — her as our leader. now it is up for the members to decide who they— for the members to decide who they want— for the members to decide who they want and every pawn we have — they want and every pawn we have seen kemi badenoch has topped — have seen kemi badenoch has topped as the favourite. i look forward — topped as the favourite. i look forward to november the 2nd when — forward to november the 2nd when hopefully we can announce kemi _ when hopefully we can announce kemi badenoch as leader of the conservatives. will kemi badenoch as leader of the conservatives.— conservatives. will there be backlash conservatives. will there be backiash if— conservatives. will there be backlash if she _ conservatives. will there be backlash if she had - conservatives. will there be backlash if she had it - conservatives. will there be backlash if she had it made | conservatives. will there be i backlash if she had it made the final two? backlash if she had it made the finaltwo? i backlash if she had it made the final two? ~' ,., ~' finaltwo? ithink so. ithink it is quite — finaltwo? ithink so. ithink it is quite clear _ finaltwo? ithink so. ithink it is quite clear that - finaltwo? ithink so. ithink it is quite clear that had - it is quite clear that had members of parliament neglected the membership by not allowing them _ the membership by not allowing them to— the membership by not allowing them to have a say over their favourite, _ them to have a say over their favourite, or having a favourite, or having a favourite on the ballot, there would — favourite on the ballot, there would have been unhappiness and

discontent within our party membership. that is not what we want, _ membership. that is not what we want, especially after the bruising defeat we have suffered as a party. it is a good _ suffered as a party. it is a good thing she is through and we witt— good thing she is through and we will have this boat and i cannot— we will have this boat and i cannot wait until november the 2nd _ cannot wait until november the 2nd. cannot wait until november the 2nd, ., , cannot wait until november the 2nd. ~ , 2nd. some tory mps say the roblem 2nd. some tory mps say the problem with _ 2nd. some tory mps say the problem with kemi - 2nd. some tory mps say the | problem with kemi badenoch 2nd. some tory mps say the i problem with kemi badenoch is she is volatile, doesn't shy away from controversy. they worry she would be the risky choice here.— worry she would be the risky choice here. she doesn't shy away from — choice here. she doesn't shy away from a _ choice here. she doesn't shy away from a fight _ choice here. she doesn't shy away from a fight but - choice here. she doesn't shy away from a fight but she . choice here. she doesn't shy l away from a fight but she does generate — away from a fight but she does generate headlines. we are going — generate headlines. we are going to _ generate headlines. we are going to need somebody like that to — going to need somebody like that to cut through the noise and take _ that to cut through the noise and take on q stammer, to take on niget— and take on q stammer, to take on nigel claridge and john swinney are from scotland, who is able _ swinney are from scotland, who is able to — swinney are from scotland, who is able to get attention on the conservative party because we are any— conservative party because we are any diminished form. like, we have — are any diminished form. like, we have got to recognise that. only— we have got to recognise that. only kemi has a plant of veneer the party— only kemi has a plant of veneer the party and reset who we are as an _ the party and reset who we are as an organisation and what we stand _ as an organisation and what we stand for. — as an organisation and what we stand for, and what we will be offering — stand for, and what we will be offering the british people. she is— offering the british people. she is light on her policies. in the conference she stumbled into a confusion about maternity pay.-

into a confusion about maternity pay. into a confusion about materni -a . ~ . ., ., maternity pay. we are not going to reliuht maternity pay. we are not going to relight the — maternity pay. we are not going to relight the fire _ maternity pay. we are not going to relight the fire on _ maternity pay. we are not going to relight the fire on that. - to relight the fire on that. she — to relight the fire on that. she was— to relight the fire on that. she was tripped up by policy specifics, whereas she is happy to talk about the broad brush. that is because that is not going _ that is because that is not going to _ that is because that is not going to be an election for four— going to be an election for four years. we need to be addressing the issues that are facing — addressing the issues that are facing us _ addressing the issues that are facing us in the next four or five — facing us in the next four or five years— facing us in the next four or five years and that is why the broad — five years and that is why the broad brush approach for who we are and _ broad brush approach for who we are and what values are, and we were _ are and what values are, and we were offered the british country as an alternative to this— country as an alternative to this appealing labour government is what kemi will do over the — government is what kemi will do over the next few months. why did robert _ over the next few months. why did robert jenrick _ over the next few months. twig did robertjenrick lose over the next few months. hwy did robertjenrick lose ground? you would have to ask him or his team _ you would have to ask him or his team i_ you would have to ask him or his team. i have been focused on driving _ his team. i have been focused on driving kemi forward, delivering votes for her are making _ delivering votes for her are making sure she got in the final— making sure she got in the final two. making sure she got in the final two-— making sure she got in the final two. , , ' making sure she got in the final two. , , , ., final two. giving he suffered a dent in his — final two. giving he suffered a dent in his support _ final two. giving he suffered a dent in his support when - final two. giving he suffered a dent in his support when he . final two. giving he suffered a l dent in his support when he was talking at the tory party conference about british special forces killing conference about british specialforces killing rather than capturing? special forces killing rather than capturing?— special forces killing rather than capturing? that angered a lot of mps- _ than capturing? that angered a lot of mps. of _ than capturing? that angered a lot of mps. of course _ than capturing? that angered a lot of mps. of course it - than capturing? that angered a lot of mps. of course it did, . lot of mp5. of course it did, but — lot of mp5. of course it did, but robert is responsible for what — but robert is responsible for what he _ but robert is responsible for what he says and i'm not here to discuss _ what he says and i'm not here to discuss what he has said previously on that issue, all i am focused on right now is getting _ am focused on right now is getting kemi through the next

few weeks and it show to become leader— few weeks and it show to become leader of— few weeks and it show to become leader of the conservative partv _ leader of the conservative pa . ~ , ., leader of the conservative pa .~ , ., , , , party. why would she be better than robert _ party. why would she be better than robert jenrick? _ party. why would she be better than robert jenrick? because l than robert jenrick? because she cuts through, _ than robert jenrick? because she cuts through, she - than robert jenrick? because she cuts through, she is - than robert jenrick? because she cuts through, she is the i she cuts through, she is the only— she cuts through, she is the only one _ she cuts through, she is the only one who has acknowledged the skill— only one who has acknowledged the skill of our defeat and the only— the skill of our defeat and the only one _ the skill of our defeat and the only one who's got a plan to venue — only one who's got a plan to venue and reset our conservative party. james cleverly — conservative party. james cleverly seem _ conservative party. james cleverly seem to - conservative party. james cleverly seem to have - conservative party. james cleverly seem to have the j conservative party. james - cleverly seem to have the best pitcher conference, would you agree? pitcher conference, would you auree? :, , , pitcher conference, would you a. ree? �* ., , , ., pitcher conference, would you auree? , , ., ., ., agree? james is great, no one has a bad — agree? james is great, no one has a bad word _ agree? james is great, no one has a bad word to _ agree? james is great, no one has a bad word to say - agree? james is great, no one has a bad word to say about i has a bad word to say about him — has a bad word to say about him he _ has a bad word to say about him he is _ has a bad word to say about him. he is positive, a fantastic orator, good team player— fantastic orator, good team player and he will have a central _ player and he will have a central role and if i keep moving _ central role and if i keep moving forward.- central role and if i keep moving forward. central role and if i keep movin: forward. , moving forward. the message he was aaivin moving forward. the message he was giving was — moving forward. the message he was giving was the _ moving forward. the message he was giving was the party - moving forward. the message he was giving was the party needed | was giving was the party needed to be more normal, a bit sunnier, a bit optimistic but normal were the words that jumped out. would you agree that the road to recovery for the tories lies in being more normal? :, the tories lies in being more normal? . . ., , ., normal? there are certainly an argument _ normal? there are certainly an argument to — normal? there are certainly an argument to be _ normal? there are certainly an argument to be made - normal? there are certainly an argument to be made that - normal? there are certainly an argument to be made that we | argument to be made that we need — argument to be made that we need to— argument to be made that we need to be more optimistic and offer— need to be more optimistic and offer hope to the british people. they will need it after a few — people. they will need it after a few years of feeling british government and that is what kemi — government and that is what kemi will offer if you are successful in this election. thank— successful in this election.

thank you very much. next it is a campaignforyou thank you very much. next it is a campaign for you starts right now. i will try and bring you some allah and bring you some other mps shortly to talk about the other candidates. {lilia other mps shortly to talk about the other candidates.— the other candidates. ok, for the other candidates. ok, for the moment _ the other candidates. ok, for the moment thank _ the other candidates. ok, for the moment thank you - the other candidates. ok, for the moment thank you for i the moment thank you for getting instant reaction. let's go back to william atkinson from the conservative home website. you were listening to that conversation that ben was having. in the end, it is all about how these two candidates convince the party membership, and what you're saying in our earlier conversation it seems appalling so far gives kemi badenoch the edge. what was your assessment? badenoch the edge. what was yourassessment? == badenoch the edge. what was your assessment? -- appalling. i think it your assessment? -- appalling. i think it is _ your assessment? -- appalling. i think it is interesting, - your assessment? -- appalling. i think it is interesting, it - i think it is interesting, it was what you would expect from a member of her team. honestly delighted at her performance and delighted that the fact she has got through to the final two, but i think evasive on the

issue of policy, because that has been the greatest challenge against her so far, and also very keen and very obviously keen to appeal to james cleverly and those who have supported him, which from exhibitor party perspective is a good thing. i think the general public is very tired of various squabbles, so after we have had another two or three weeks of squabbles, it would be good to get the party around the table and make sure that somebody like james cleverly remains at that top table and his supporters are well remunerated in terms of the shadow cabinet and shadow ministerial positions and all the rest, i thought it was kind of what you would expect, but also a sign of delight that the kemi badenoch campaign are currently feeling.— kemi badenoch campaign are currently feeling. indeed, stay with us. let's _ currently feeling. indeed, stay with us. let's go _ currently feeling. indeed, stay with us. let's go back- currently feeling. indeed, stay with us. let's go back to - currently feeling. indeed, stay with us. let's go back to ben l with us. let's go back to ben in central body. we were just hearing from william, i think the polling in recent months says and suggested that the

grassroots membership of the conservative party favour kemi badenoch, but that has changed a little bit through the course of the campaign, there was a moment where robertjenrick was seen as the front runner. where do you see things now, and what reaction are you getting, in addition to what we have just heard? addition to what we have 'ust heard? ~ :, addition to what we have 'ust heard? ~ ., ., ., ., ., heard? we are going to hear a bit more now. _ heard? we are going to hear a bit more now. i _ heard? we are going to hear a bit more now. i have - heard? we are going to hear a bit more now. i have done - bit more now. i have done equally great with me, a big supporter of robertjenrick. supporter of robert jenrick. what happened just supporter of robertjenrick. what happened just then? who what happened 'ust then? who knows? rory _ what happened just then? who knows? tory mps _ what happened just then? who knows? tory mps voting in secret, _ knows? tory mps voting in secret, and they decided we're going — secret, and they decided we're going to — secret, and they decided we're going to have kemi and robert. i going to have kemi and robert. i am _ going to have kemi and robert. i am pleased robert has done so well, _ i am pleased robert has done so well, and — i am pleased robert has done so well, and came right from the back— well, and came right from the back of— well, and came right from the back of the attack at the beginning of this race, i think he has — beginning of this race, i think he has proved over time he has the work— he has proved over time he has the work ethic but ideas. he is the work ethic but ideas. he is the one — the work ethic but ideas. he is the one with the plan. who knows _ the one with the plan. who knows what goes on in the minds of tory— knows what goes on in the minds of tory mps when we vote in the about— of tory mps when we vote in the about box, — of tory mps when we vote in the about box, here we are. the}r about box, here we are. they have a reputation _ about box, here we are. they have a reputation of- about box, here we are. they have a reputation of being . about box, here we are. ti9 have a reputation of being the most duplicitous in the world. this will not have killed off

this suspicion.— this will not have killed off this suspicion. tory mps are t in: this suspicion. tory mps are trying to _ this suspicion. tory mps are trying to get _ this suspicion. tory mps are trying to get to _ this suspicion. tory mps are trying to get to as _ this suspicion. tory mps are trying to get to as the - this suspicion. tory mps are trying to get to as the best l trying to get to as the best candidate for for their sort of conservatism and most likely to succeed — conservatism and most likely to succeed with the public, and i think— succeed with the public, and i think we — succeed with the public, and i think we now have, and can i pay— think we now have, and can i pay my— think we now have, and can i pay my respects to james cleverly, i thought it was a very— cleverly, i thought it was a very impressive candidate and he has — very impressive candidate and he has got to be part of the new— he has got to be part of the new team that we put before the country _ new team that we put before the country after this leadership election— country after this leadership election is over. but you have someone _ election is over. but you have someone in robert who is presenting a hearing set of policies. _ presenting a hearing set of policies, a really robust and coherent— policies, a really robust and coherent plan that will change your _ coherent plan that will change your relationship with the public, _ your relationship with the public, because they do not think— public, because they do not think we _ public, because they do not think we succeeded in delivering in government for them, — delivering in government for them, and afraid they were partly— them, and afraid they were partly right. we need to have a proper— partly right. we need to have a proper set _ partly right. we need to have a proper set of reforms that will rewire — proper set of reforms that will rewire the british state, make it work— rewire the british state, make it work in— rewire the british state, make it work in the interest of the british— it work in the interest of the british people, get us out of the mess of international law which — the mess of international law which is _ the mess of international law which is binding the hands of this country, and make a public services — this country, and make a public services and our economy work for people _ services and our economy work for people and i think we are going — for people and i think we are going to _ for people and i think we are going to have an interesting debate _ going to have an interesting debate over the next couple of weeks. — debate over the next couple of weeks, which conservative members will have a chance to see kemi — members will have a chance to see kemi and robert up close and i—

see kemi and robert up close and i am— see kemi and robert up close and i am confident they will go for rob — and i am confident they will go for rob lt— and i am confident they will go for rob. , : :, , for rob. it is clear it will be a candidate _ for rob. it is clear it will be a candidate from _ for rob. it is clear it will be a candidate from the - for rob. it is clear it will be a candidate from the right. | for rob. it is clear it will be i a candidate from the right. we have candidates to a promising real change, and i think that is what _ real change, and i think that is what the country want, whether _ is what the country want, whether they think of themselves as left or right, whether— themselves as left or right, whether they abandoned us for reform — whether they abandoned us for reform labour, i think people want — reform labour, i think people want change.— want change. the last government _ want change. the last government that - want change. the last government that was | government that was emphatically beaten at the election had cut national insurance twice in the run—up to the election, it cannot be described as being on the right, it was a very conservative offering that it was fitting in front of voters, and yet it was turfed out, had the biggest election defeat in europe party's history and yet the two candidates that are up in front of the membership are from the right of the conservative party. could that be a self—defeating choice? i be a self—defeating choice? i don't think it is helpful to characterise it as left or right, _ characterise it as left or right, we need to appeal to voters _ right, we need to appeal to voters across the spectrum, but

the reason _ voters across the spectrum, but the reason voters left us in either— the reason voters left us in either direction was because we were _ either direction was because we were feeling, and i think at the end _ were feeling, and i think at the end of the last parliament, the end of the last parliament, the government recognise what it had _ the government recognise what it had to — the government recognise what it had to do. it had to be more robust — it had to do. it had to be more robust on _ it had to do. it had to be more robust on issues around migration and the economy. there — migration and the economy. there was only right instincts but it — there was only right instincts but it was _ there was only right instincts but it was way too late and the public — but it was way too late and the public stop believing in us. it will take _ public stop believing in us. it will take years to rebuild our trust. — will take years to rebuild our trust. and _ will take years to rebuild our trust, and we have to have a proper— trust, and we have to have a proper and coherent plan that is compensable to the public, notjust— is compensable to the public, notjust coming at is compensable to the public, not just coming at the is compensable to the public, notjust coming at the end is compensable to the public, not just coming at the end with some _ not just coming at the end with some headline grabbing policies, i think we need to be genuinely— policies, i think we need to be genuinely conservative and i hope — genuinely conservative and i hope that will help win back voters — hope that will help win back voters who left just to reform. but we — voters who left just to reform. but we have to be serious and sensible — but we have to be serious and sensible and respect all different interests and values across — different interests and values across the country, so we have to be _ across the country, so we have to be a — across the country, so we have to be a grown conservative party— to be a grown conservative party that is properly robust on issues that matter to all voters _ on issues that matter to all voters and i think left and right— voters and i think left and right is— voters and i think left and right is probably an unhelpful characterisation, because really _ characterisation, because really it _ characterisation, because really it is about how much you are prepared to change.- are prepared to change. some conservative _ are prepared to change. some conservative mps _ are prepared to change. some conservative mps raised - conservative mps raised privately to question of robert jenrick�*s political

authenticity. he was close to rishi sunak, he was a remainer during brexit, then pivoted right on immigration because he knows in the end it is the tory party membership who is to the right will decide this election. there is the authenticity question. what he did was went _ authenticity question. what he did was went on _ authenticity question. what he did was went on a _ authenticity question. what he did was went on a journey - authenticity question. what he did was went on a journey thatj did was went on a journey that ithink— did was went on a journey that i think all— did was went on a journey that i think all conservatives have to make. _ i think all conservatives have to make, ten years ago when he became — to make, ten years ago when he became an — to make, ten years ago when he became an mp and supported david — became an mp and supported david cameron's government, that— david cameron's government, that was— david cameron's government, that was the centre ground for his politics at the time. brexit— his politics at the time. brexit change that, the 2019 election— brexit change that, the 2019 election change that, i failed migration model has changed that, — migration model has changed that, the whole country now watched _ that, the whole country now watched what robert jenrick is asking — watched what robert jenrick is asking for which a secure bodice _ asking for which a secure bodice and a government that works — bodice and a government that works i— bodice and a government that works. i think he has always been — works. i think he has always been consistent about being a good — been consistent about being a good minister, he served governments and prime ministers loyalty— governments and prime ministers loyally into the very last but realised _ loyally into the very last but realised it could no longer stick— realised it could no longer stick with a failed migration model— stick with a failed migration model that we have now in which case: _ model that we have now in which case, it— model that we have now in which case, it is— model that we have now in which case, it is going to make worse. _ case, it is going to make worse, he is any place that the country— worse, he is any place that the country is _ worse, he is any place that the country is in and i hope members would recognise that.

why would kemi badenoch be the wrong person to lead the conservative party? i wrong person to lead the conservative party? i don't think she _ conservative party? i don't think she would _ conservative party? i don't think she would be, - conservative party? i don't think she would be, she i conservative party? i don't- think she would be, she would be a _ think she would be, she would be a great leader but i think rob— be a great leader but i think rob is— be a great leader but i think rob is evidently better because he has — rob is evidently better because he has worked out in this campaign a proper plan for change _ campaign a proper plan for change on the economy, on public— change on the economy, on public services, or migration on questions around culture and national— on questions around culture and national identity. he is put forward _ national identity. he is put forward a thoughtful, properly modelled plan for change. we haven't— modelled plan for change. we haven't yet seen that from kenny. _ haven't yet seen that from kenny, we might see that in the next _ kenny, we might see that in the next couple of weeks. she has been _ next couple of weeks. she has been talking more about values which _ been talking more about values which i — been talking more about values which i respect, the effort your— which i respect, the effort your values into actions reveal plans— your values into actions reveal plans for— your values into actions reveal plans for change and robert demonstrates that.- plans for change and robert demonstrates that. looking at the numbers _ demonstrates that. looking at the numbers again, _ demonstrates that. looking at the numbers again, they i demonstrates that. looking at the numbers again, they are l demonstrates that. looking at. the numbers again, they are all bunched up. there is barely anything between them. neither kemi badenoch or robertjenrick can go to the party and say they have the synthetic support of mps. —— emphatic support. and you will have eluded that does not have majority support of the party. hat does not have ma'ority support of the party._ of the party. not at this staae, of the party. not at this stage. if _ of the party. not at this stage, if we _ of the party. not at this stage, if we were i of the party. not at this stage, if we were to i of the party. not at this | stage, if we were to see of the party. not at this i

stage, if we were to see the leader— stage, if we were to see the leader elected by the members, i leader elected by the members, i am _ leader elected by the members, i am sure — leader elected by the members, i am sure the apology party will get _ i am sure the apology party will get behind that, that has been — will get behind that, that has been a — will get behind that, that has been a good feature of this race — been a good feature of this race so— been a good feature of this race so far, we haven't seen them — race so far, we haven't seen them taking chunks out of each other, — them taking chunks out of each other, we — them taking chunks out of each other, we haven't seen people saying — other, we haven't seen people saying i— other, we haven't seen people saying i will never be able to serve — saying i will never be able to serve under so—and—so, if any ofthem— serve under so—and—so, if any of them won the others will be happy— of them won the others will be happy to— of them won the others will be happy to say. we will get out of this— happy to say. we will get out of this any more unified state that— of this any more unified state that we — of this any more unified state that we were into it which is a very— that we were into it which is a very good _ that we were into it which is a very good thing. that we were into it which is a very good thing-— very good thing. thanks very much, very good thing. thanks very much. saying _ very good thing. thanks very much, saying this _ very good thing. thanks very much, saying this will - very good thing. thanks very much, saying this will be i very good thing. thanks very l much, saying this will be their way to a more united tory party. we shall see. indeed. thanks to — party. we shall see. indeed. thanks to both _ party. we shall see. indeed. thanks to both of _ party. we shall see. indeed. thanks to both of you - party. we shall see. indeed. thanks to both of you for i thanks to both of you for joining us for our coverage. a reminder of that somewhat surprising result in the latest round of the conservative leadership election. james cleverly has now been knocked out of the race. he came in at last with that vote of conservative mps, he got 37 backers. in second place in that votive was robertjenrick and coming out top by only one

vote kemi badenoch, the mp for saffron walden. the final two to go through to the vote which now expands to the conservative party membership up and down the country, will be kemi badenoch and robertjenrick. that conservative party leadership race began on the 24th ofjuly, it will conclude on the 2nd of november. as we were saying, james cleverly now knocked out of the race for the leadership of the conservative party. just to say we do have plenty more coverage on the bbc news website. we are running a life page which has updates and reaction from mps, and from other people as well. that is it for the moment on that special coverage of the conservative party leadership race and the latest stages of it. let's get the weather with darren. hello there. we are seeing a bit more rain today particularly across northern england and north wales.

but the weather is going to be changing in the next couple of days because whilst it is going to be turning drier, the temperatures are going to be falling as well and we will have some frost around too. these are the temperatures we've got this afternoon. 17 still possible with some sunshine and fewer showers in the south—east but it is getting colder further north. that's because we are starting to see a northerly wind picking up through the day. that's going to drag down colder air across the whole of the country eventually. follows this band of patchy rain that's going to sink southwards across england and wales this evening and overnight. clearer skies following as those stronger winds transfer southwards through the north sea. could be a few wintry showers over the tops of highland and grampian and a touch of frost in other parts of scotland. further south, those temperatures held a bit higher because we'll still have some cloud, a bit of rain first thing on thursday morning. that moves away and following that some showers coming into northern ireland, around some western coasts, down the north sea coast and into northern scotland. but many places will have a drier day. it'll feel cold, though, particularly in the stronger winds down the north sea coast.

temperatures of 11 degrees in glasgow again, but only 12, quite a significant drop across southern parts of england and wales. that colder air will remain in place across much of the country as we head towards the end of the week. instead of a northerly wind, we will have westerly wind in scotland bringing cloud in from the atlantic and some outbreaks of rain and drizzle. elsewhere the wind will be much lighter, it is likely to be dry, there will be some sunshine, could be a touch of frost to begin the day and we still have that cold air so temperatures typically only 11 or 12 on friday. what about the weekend? a few changes on the way. we've got that area of low pressure and some weather fronts bringing some wetter weather into scotland and northern ireland overnight into saturday morning. and this band of rain will move its way south into england and wales, some showers breaking out ahead of that. sunshine and a few maybe wintry showers over the mountains coming into northern parts of scotland. with that wetter weather around we have temperatures ten degrees again in glasgow and 14 celsius in london.

so still on the cool side and those temperatures may not change too much on sunday. but we'll have high pressure building in and so it will be dry with some sunshine, early mist and fog.

live from london, this is bbc news. hurricane milton, the biggest storm to hit florida in

a century heads towards the coast. 5 million people are urged to get out of the area. these are the live pictures. pretty calm now but they expect wind speeds of 135 mph and storm surges up to four metres high. homes and businesses are being boarded up in preparation. joe biden says leaving now is a matter of life and death. leaving now is a matter of life and death-— leaving now is a matter of life and death. i'm live in miami at and death. i'm live in miami at an evacuation _ and death. i'm live in miami at an evacuation centre _ and death. i'm live in miami at an evacuation centre where i an evacuation centre where people from the south—west coast of florida have arrived. they are hunkering down before milton makes impact. the they are hunkering down before milton makes impact.— milton makes impact. the next conservative _ milton makes impact. the next conservative leader _ milton makes impact. the next conservative leader will - milton makes impact. the next conservative leader will be i milton makes impact. the next conservative leader will be a i conservative leader will be a choice between robertjenrick choice between robert jenrick and choice between robertjenrick and kemi badenoch afterjames cleverly is eliminated from the contest. rocket fire from lebanon kills two people in northern israel as the un says a quarter of lebanon is now under evacuation orders.