he took the snp from the fringes to become a conquering force. we'll bejoined byjohn swinney, scotland's first minister and snp leader. keir starmer�*s big promise to all of us was to fix the economy. after 100 days we'll ask, can the government make us better off? but ministers have already offended one big business — the owner of p&0 — the transport secretary saying she'd boycott their boats. this morning, the business secretary and a banker, jonathan reynolds, and the boss of the country's biggest bank, lloyds, charlie nunn is here. and the race for the tory crown�*s down to two. robertjenrick will be with us today to answer some of your questions. and our team at the desk for the next hour this week, actor and snp supporter brian cox,

lib dems deputy leader daisy cooper and billionaire businessman, john caudwell. morning, morning — let's start by looking at the newspapers. it is dominated by the death of alex salmond, on the front pages of the sunday times and right across the scottish front pages. the national smashers with his final words in public, scotland is a country, not a county. keir starmer has been speaking to the sunday mirror, marking 100 days of labour in power. and the mail on sunday claims that the metropolitan police was forced by government to give taylor swift blue light escorts to her shows at wembley.

a warm welcome to all three of you this morning. let's start by talking about alex salmond. brian cox, you knew him well and appeared recently on one of his new television programmes he was doing on turkish television. what are your memories of him? he television. what are your memories of him? . , . television. what are your memories of him? . ., television. what are your memories of him? ., ., ., ., , of him? he was a lot of fun, very entertaining- _ of him? he was a lot of fun, very entertaining. he _ of him? he was a lot of fun, very entertaining. he had _ of him? he was a lot of fun, very entertaining. he had great - of him? he was a lot of fun, very - entertaining. he had great humanity. he was probably, i think, one of the greatest political thinkers that certainly scotland has ever produced and possibly these islands has ever produced. he was an extraordinary man. i think his essential appeal was his humanity and how he came across to other people. when i first met alex i was not an snp but a labour supporter. what happened with labour, and we were just talking about that just now, labour, and we were just talking about thatjust now, it made me very disillusioned, especially with social democracy. the one place i felt social democracy was still

happening was back in my home country so i had to rethink my feelings and alex enabled me to do that. he feelings and alex enabled me to do that. . , . . ., feelings and alex enabled me to do that. . , ., . ., ., feelings and alex enabled me to do that. . , ., _, ., , ., feelings and alex enabled me to do that. ., ., ve that. he was a conduit for you. very much so. that. he was a conduit for you. very much s0- what _ that. he was a conduit for you. very much so. what do _ that. he was a conduit for you. very much so. what do you _ that. he was a conduit for you. very much so. what do you think- that. he was a conduit for you. very much so. what do you think his - much so. what do you think his im act much so. what do you think his impact was _ much so. what do you think his impact was on _ much so. what do you think his impact was on politics - much so. what do you think his impact was on politics in - much so. what do you think his l impact was on politics in scotland and across the uk?— and across the uk? considerable because he _ and across the uk? considerable because he challenged. - and across the uk? considerable because he challenged. alec's i because he challenged. alec�*s favourite thing, ironically, when we lost the 2014 referendum, he was really looking forward to getting back into parliament because he was a great parliamentarian and that was his great gift, he loved that more than anything else, the debate, and he loved ironically being in the house of commons. in westminster. but he pleaded _ house of commons. in westminster. but he pleaded the _ house of commons. in westminster. but he pleaded the cause, _ house of commons. in westminster. but he pleaded the cause, and - house of commons. in westminster. but he pleaded the cause, and did i house of commons. in westminster. but he pleaded the cause, and did it| but he pleaded the cause, and did it with great humanity and understanding of what scotland... scotland has been a second—class nation for a long time and alex went to battle on that and he made me

aware of something i had kind of... when you are young and have ambition you want to migrate things. i come from dundee and i looked at the river tay and i thought, i'm going to cross that one day and get down to cross that one day and get down to the south. as i got older i realised, my country isn't bad, it's pretty damn good. i think alex really fought for the country. daisy, as the lib dems, where the party has had a prominent role in scottish politics, but as a lib dems how would you see his role in changing things across scotland and the uk? i changing things across scotland and the uk? , a, , the uk? i never met him personally but i think he _ the uk? i never met him personally but i think he really _ the uk? i never met him personally but i think he really typifies - the uk? i never met him personally but i think he really typifies a - but i think he really typifies a particular type of politician, someone who has a lot of charisma, someone who has a big personality, someone _ someone who has a big personality, someone who has a big personality, someone who is ruthless in pursuit of the _ someone who is ruthless in pursuit of the things he really believed in. there _ of the things he really believed in. there is— of the things he really believed in. there is no— of the things he really believed in. there is no doubt. but like many in the snp _ there is no doubt. but like many in the snp he — there is no doubt. but like many in the snp he was so focused on independence and that was his

driving — independence and that was his driving because for most of his life _ driving because for most of his life and — driving because for most of his life. and i'm sure all of our thoughts _ life. and i'm sure all of our thoughts are with his family and friends — thoughts are with his family and friends. ., thoughts are with his family and friends. . , ., ., friends. later in the programme we will seak friends. later in the programme we will speak to _ friends. later in the programme we will speak to the _ friends. later in the programme we will speak to the current _ friends. later in the programme we will speak to the current first - will speak to the current first minister and leader of the snp, john swinney, who worked alongside him for decades. we also talk about the economy today, john. just before the election, you as a billionaire who created a huge business, backed the labour party. i created a huge business, backed the labour party-— labour party. i prefer the title philanthropist. _ labour party. i prefer the title philanthropist, although - labour party. i prefer the title philanthropist, although i - labour party. i prefer the title philanthropist, although i am| labour party. i prefer the title | philanthropist, although i am a businessman— philanthropist, although i am a businessman but— philanthropist, although i am a businessman but i— philanthropist, although i am a businessman but i spend - philanthropist, although i am a businessman but i spend all. philanthropist, although i am a| businessman but i spend all my philanthropist, although i am a - businessman but i spend all my life on philanthropy— businessman but i spend all my life on philanthropy at _ businessman but i spend all my life on philanthropy at the _ businessman but i spend all my life on philanthropy at the moment. - businessman but i spend all my lifel on philanthropy at the moment. you will have been _ on philanthropy at the moment. will have been watching what has happened with the first two months of labour in office. we will hear more from the business secretary in a moment. there are stories and noises off in the news about wealthy people feeling nervous and some wealthy people even leaving the country, particularly about the possibility of capital gains tax paid on share sales or selling property of, going up to perhaps 39%. what would you make of that if it happened on that specific? fin

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and attract inward business. everything we do that might and attract inward business. i everything we do that might be negative — everything we do that might be negative to— everything we do that might be negative to attract _ everything we do that might be negative to attract inward - negative to attract inward businesses _ negative to attract inward businesses and _ negative to attract inward businesses and inward i negative to attract inward - businesses and inward wealthy negative to attract inward _ businesses and inward wealthy people is a negative — businesses and inward wealthy people is a negative in _ businesses and inward wealthy people is a negative. i'm not _ businesses and inward wealthy people is a negative. i'm not worried - businesses and inward wealthy people is a negative. i'm not worried about. is a negative. i'm not worried about losing _ is a negative. i'm not worried about losing the _ is a negative. i'm not worried about losing the odd — is a negative. i'm not worried about losing the odd few— is a negative. i'm not worried about losing the odd few people - is a negative. i'm not worried about losing the odd few people to - is a negative. i'm not worried aboutl losing the odd few people to monaco or wherever— losing the odd few people to monaco or wherever he — losing the odd few people to monaco or wherever he want _ losing the odd few people to monaco or wherever he want to _ losing the odd few people to monaco or wherever he want to avoid - losing the odd few people to monaco or wherever he want to avoid payingl or wherever he want to avoid paying any tax _ or wherever he want to avoid paying anyta>c most— or wherever he want to avoid paying any ta>c most of— or wherever he want to avoid paying any tax. most of them _ or wherever he want to avoid paying any tax. most of them have - or wherever he want to avoid paying any tax. most of them have already| any tax. most of them have already gone _ any tax. most of them have already gone but— any tax. most of them have already gone but there _ any tax. most of them have already gone. but there are _ any tax. most of them have already gone. but there are issues- any tax. most of them have already gone. but there are issues all- gone. but there are issues all around — gone. but there are issues all around the _ gone. but there are issues all around the policies _ gone. but there are issues all around the policies that - gone. but there are issues all around the policies that we i gone. but there are issues all. around the policies that we have gone. but there are issues all- around the policies that we have to be very— around the policies that we have to be very careful _ around the policies that we have to be very careful of. _ around the policies that we have to be very careful of. i— around the policies that we have to be very careful of. i don't - around the policies that we have to be very careful of. i don't agree - be very careful of. i don't agree with— be very careful of. i don't agree with the — be very careful of. i don't agree with the change _ be very careful of. i don't agree with the change in _ be very careful of. i don't agree with the change in the - be very careful of. i don't agree | with the change in the non—dom rules. _ with the change in the non—dom rules. i— with the change in the non—dom rules. ithink— with the change in the non—dom rules, i think it's— with the change in the non—dom rules, i think it's not— with the change in the non—dom rules, i think it's not fair- with the change in the non—dom rules, i think it's not fair to - with the change in the non—dom rules, i think it's not fair to a i rules, i think it's not fair to a section— rules, i think it's not fair to a section of— rules, i think it's not fair to a section of non—doms. - rules, i think it's not fair to a section of non—doms. not. rules, i think it's not fair to a section of non—doms. not all rules, i think it's not fair to a . section of non—doms. not all of rules, i think it's not fair to a - section of non—doms. not all of them but some _ section of non—doms. not all of them but some of— section of non—doms. not all of them but some of them _ section of non—doms. not all of them but some of them it _ section of non—doms. not all of them but some of them it will _ section of non—doms. not all of them but some of them it will be _ section of non—doms. not all of them but some of them it will be unfair- but some of them it will be unfair to. but some of them it will be unfair to and _ but some of them it will be unfair to and we — but some of them it will be unfair to. and we will— but some of them it will be unfair to. and we will lose _ but some of them it will be unfair to. and we will lose people - but some of them it will be unfair to. and we will lose people who i but some of them it will be unfair. to. and we will lose people who can help make — to. and we will lose people who can help make britain _ to. and we will lose people who can help make britain prosperous. - to. and we will lose people who can help make britain prosperous. but. to. and we will lose people who can l help make britain prosperous. but we have to _ help make britain prosperous. but we have to make — help make britain prosperous. but we have to make a — help make britain prosperous. but we have to make a balanced _ help make britain prosperous. but we have to make a balanced viewpoint i help make britain prosperous. but we have to make a balanced viewpoint toj have to make a balanced viewpoint to put the _ have to make a balanced viewpoint to put the great — have to make a balanced viewpoint to put the great back— have to make a balanced viewpoint to put the great back in _ have to make a balanced viewpoint to put the great back in britain. - have to make a balanced viewpoint to put the great back in britain. if- have to make a balanced viewpoint to put the great back in britain. if we - put the great back in britain. if we -et put the great back in britain. if we get it— put the great back in britain. if we get it wrong — put the great back in britain. if we get it wrong then _ put the great back in britain. if we get it wrong then it _ put the great back in britain. if we get it wrong then it is— put the great back in britain. if we get it wrong then it is a _ put the great back in britain. if we get it wrong then it is a tale - put the great back in britain. if we get it wrong then it is a tale of- get it wrong then it is a tale of peril~ — get it wrong then it is a tale of peril~ we _ get it wrong then it is a tale of peril. we can't _ get it wrong then it is a tale of peril. we can't lose _ get it wrong then it is a tale of peril. we can't lose too - get it wrong then it is a tale of peril. we can't lose too manyl peril. we can't lose too many wealthy — peril. we can't lose too many wealthy people _ peril. we can't lose too many wealthy people. but - peril. we can't lose too many wealthy people. but more . peril. we can't lose too many- wealthy people. but more importantly wealthy people. but more importantly we have _ wealthy people. but more importantly we have to _ wealthy people. but more importantly we have to attract _ wealthy people. but more importantly we have to attract inward _ we have to attract inward investment, _ we have to attract inward investment, that's - we have to attract inward investment, that's the i we have to attract inward i investment, that's the big we have to attract inward - investment, that's the big thing. that's— investment, that's the big thing. that's what— investment, that's the big thing. that's what the _ investment, that's the big thing. that's what the government -

investment, that's the big thing. that's what the government will| investment, that's the big thing. . that's what the government will try to do this week. keir starmer�*s always told any microphone within spitting distance, his firstjob is to sort out the economy, after years of it being in the doldrums. ministers hope this week will see plenty of cheques written by firms ready to plough their cash into this country. they are holding a big business summit tomorrow in london. but the warm—up for a big investment summit was disrupted by the transport secretary louise haigh offending one of those huge firms, dp world, who own p&0, when she said she'd been boycotting them because of how they'd treated staff, and urged consumers to do the same. she called them a rogue operator. jonathan reynolds is the business secretary. we will get to that shortly. first of all i want to ask your reaction to alex salmond passing away. edit to alex salmond passing away. of course. in the political sphere he was a huge figure, a formidable campaigner and huge figure. and despite being four independents he knew how to use the house of commons, he was at home in that

environment and a huge contributor to uk politics, no doubt. brute environment and a huge contributor to uk politics, no doubt.— to uk politics, no doubt. we will discuss more _ to uk politics, no doubt. we will discuss more of _ to uk politics, no doubt. we will discuss more of that _ to uk politics, no doubt. we will discuss more of that the - to uk politics, no doubt. we will discuss more of that the john i discuss more of that the john swinney later in the programme. let's talk about the business and to labour's relationship. i will play our audience in case they missed it what your colleague, transport minister louise haigh said about p&0 ferries earlier this week. they are a rogue operator. we are cracking down on the way that they've treated employees and we want to see them mirror the standards of other operators that come in and out of great britain's waters. would you travel with p&0 ferries? no, i've been boycotting p&0 ferries for two and a half years and i'd encourage consumers to do the same. what part of that do you disagree with? brute what part of that do you disagree with? ~ , ., ., ,, with? we believe what happened with p&0 ferries was _ with? we believe what happened with p&0 ferries was wrong _ with? we believe what happened with p&0 ferries was wrong and _ with? we believe what happened with p&0 ferries was wrong and i - with? we believe what happened with p&0 ferries was wrong and i believe l p&0 ferries was wrong and i believe even the conservative government at the time was clear they believed it was wrong. the problem was it was lawful then. was wrong. the problem was it was lawfulthen. it's was wrong. the problem was it was lawful then. it's not going to be lawful then. it's not going to be lawful now. we have changed the law and part of our employment rights bill is what does this. timer;r and part of our employment rights bill is what does this.—

bill is what does this. they got rid of some staff _ bill is what does this. they got rid of some staff and _ bill is what does this. they got rid of some staff and then _ bill is what does this. they got rid of some staff and then rehired. i bill is what does this. they got rid of some staff and then rehired. a | of some staff and then rehired. particularly egregious case of fire and rehire. where companies accept we are not allowing that to happen any more and we can work with them on investment into the country and we can a conversation with them, we will do. it is not the government position to boycott them. we are clear we do not want the country competing on fire and rehire. we are changing that and this week we will see the employment rights bill give more security for people in some of the lowest paid insecure work in the country. that is pro—business and pro—worker in action. film country. that is pro-business and pro-worker in action.— pro-worker in action. our p&0 ferries a rogue _ pro-worker in action. our p&0 ferries a rogue operator? - pro-worker in action. our p&0 ferries a rogue operator? no, | pro-worker in action. our p&0 - ferries a rogue operator? no, that is not the government _ ferries a rogue operator? no, that is not the government position. i ferries a rogue operator? no, that. is not the government position. but we have to make clear we do not support fire and rehire. we believe and we are showing we can improve the labour market and peoples employment rights at the same time as at taxing the kind of investment we need. ., . ., , , as at taxing the kind of investment weneed. ., . ., , , ., we need. you said clearly it is not the government _ we need. you said clearly it is not the government position - we need. you said clearly it is not the government position at - we need. you said clearly it is not the government position at p80 i we need. you said clearly it is not i the government position at p80 and the government position at p&0 and dp world are a rogue operator. there was a government press release that

said it was a rogue employer that went out in the name of the government. there it is, there is a quote, comments on an official government press release calling them a rogue employer. but that is not the government position. i am ha - to not the government position. i am happy to clarify — not the government position. i am happy to clarify that, _ not the government position. i am happy to clarify that, i _ not the government position. i —n happy to clarify that, i speak for the government as business secretary. we would make clear what happened was wrong because of that is why we are changing though to make sure it can't happen again. the transort make sure it can't happen again. the transport secretary was not speaking for the government but you are? i can tell you what the government position is. i can tell you what the government position is— position is. i work with the transport _ position is. i work with the transport secretary - position is. i work with the transport secretary on - position is. i work with the transport secretary on a i position is. i work with the - transport secretary on a whole position is. i work with the _ transport secretary on a whole range of issues integral on getting inward investment into the country. she was part of the team that is produced, and you will see the scale of