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that top could look at that top paragraph there, which deals with— paragraph there, which deals with the _ paragraph there, which deals with the scg and in particular, i with the scg and in particular, liust— with the scg and in particular, liust want_ with the scg and in particular, ijust want to draw your attention to 5 live this down. scg — attention to 5 live this down. scg was _ attention to 5 live this down. scg was responsible for steps taken — scg was responsible for steps taken to— scg was responsible for steps taken to protect the public outside _ taken to protect the public outside the wider police investigation. is that something with which you agree? i agree _ something with which you agree? i agree it — something with which you agree? i agree. it is very much a partnership, we are intelligence led by what is going on in the investigation but absolutely, the responsibility at a local level and a national level with national partners was to oversee that public health response. in oversee that public health re5ponse-_ response. in terms of the interaction _ response. in terms of the interaction with _ response. in terms of the interaction with your - response. in terms of the interaction with your role | response. in terms of the i interaction with your role as chair— interaction with your role as chair of— interaction with your role as chair of the scg and and other policing — chair of the scg and and other policing roles, is it right that— policing roles, is it right that wiltshire police initially and then counterterrorism police _ and then counterterrorism police when they took over were responsible for the evidential
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investigation and the scg for investigation and the scg for investigation consequences? wiltshire police responded and undertook the investigation and then there was a handover to counterterrorism police who took on the investigation thereafter.— took on the investigation thereafter. ~ . ~ thereafter. we will come back to that but — thereafter. we will come back to that but you _ thereafter. we will come back to that but you define - to that but you define consequence management in your summary— consequence management in your summary witness statement, and i'm looking at page three paragraph ten b, as steps taken to prevent — paragraph ten b, as steps taken to prevent the impact of any incident _ to prevent the impact of any incident escalating. can you give — incident escalating. can you give us _ incident escalating. can you give us some examples of what that would be in practice? probably the best example i could give with theirs that became very apparent to me early on with this, you had two investigations on the go and you had the investigation into who would actually had committed this act. from a scg perspective, you had an investigation into public health and what i said at the time was we had to establish who touched what, when, where and what was the public health
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risk as a result of that? so putting that into context, as we heard yesterday, we know that the skripals were poisoned at their home address and then went to different locations. we needed to understand the timeline of where they had been, if they transferred any of the mother truck and what the public health risk was if they had to. the public health risk was if they had te— the public health risk was if they had to. the public health risk was if the had to. . ~ . . they had to. thank you. we have soken they had to. thank you. we have spoken about — they had to. thank you. we have spoken about your _ they had to. thank you. we have spoken about your first - they had to. thank you. we have spoken about your first two - spoken about your first two rows ~~ _ spoken about your first two rows... ~ . spoken about your first two rows... ~ , . ., rows... we will pull away from events in _ rows... we will pull away from events in the _ rows... we will pull away from events in the guildhall - rows... we will pull away from events in the guildhall in - events in the guildhall in salisbury. we are watching paul mills, the deputy police constable answering questions at the inquiry. he took up his role the day after that attack on the skripals and is describing the events that led up describing the events that led up to the death, the poisoning of dawn stu rgess up to the death, the poisoning of dawn sturgess and the poisoning of sergei and yulia skripal. earlierwe poisoning of sergei and yulia skripal. earlier we had from
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caroline sturgess, the mother of dawn stu rgess caroline sturgess, the mother of dawn sturgess and spoke about the last conversation she had with dawn the night before she was poisoned and later died of that poisoning. it was pure chance, she said, that dawn sprayed herself with novichok from a perfume bottle. she was then taken ill... we can say what she talked about also was the experience that her daughter had as a mother of three, how she loved to see her daughter and how she has now become a grandmother and tell her daughter said she never got to see her mother to say goodbye. so dawn sturgess' family talking very movingly after which the inquiry adjourned. we will keep you up—to—date with various updates from the inquiry. if you want to carry on watching the inquiry, you can do so, you can scan the qr code or go to the
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bbc iplayer or our website. there is also a live page reporting on every development from that inquiry to establish that 2018 poisoning of dawn sturgess, who died, mother of three, a 44—year—old who died soon after that encounter. let's turn into another story we are reporting on this money. the bbc has banned the practice of incinerating much of the ukhousehold rubbish is as polluting as burning coal. almost half of all household waste now goes into industrial incinerators and recycling rates have stagnated. here is our environment correspondent. steam billows down mandy royle's street from what she calls the monster next door. look how thick it is. it's blown straight at our houses and we're breathing all that in. and that's my garden. her home in runcorn, in the north west of england, is a stone's throw from
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the uk's largest energy—from—waste incinerator. if you want to sit in the garden and enjoy the sun, you've got the smell, the steam, flies, and then the noise, as well. we've got an l—shape of houses and i've been round and counted them, and there's ii empty. no—one wants to live down here any more. the bbc has been digging deeply into data from incinerator operators like viridor, who run the site in runcorn. the facility here burns the equivalent of around 200 double—decker buses of black bin bags every single day — around a million tonnes a year. i've lived here since �*98, and then in 2015, they decided to put the incinerator in my front garden — well, it felt like my front garden. and ever since, it's just been a nightmare. viridor say their site is closely monitored by the environment agency, and the amount of noise and water vapour remain within permitted levels for the environment and human health. the company also contribute to the community —
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through actions like sponsoring the local football team, runcorn town, who play their home matches in the shadow of the incinerator. for some people in the town, the incinerator has been controversial. yeah. what's your view? um... i do see sort of where they're coming from. you know, from a football club point of view, you know, we're here, they're 200 yards over the road. we're not going anywhere and they're not going anywhere so we've got to have that good relationship. we used to bury our rubbish in landfill sites like this, but the government imposed heavy taxes as worries grew about planet—warming methane seeping out from underground. so councils turned to burning. and over the past decade, there's been a rush to build energy—from—waste facilities — with many more in the pipeline_ all those incinerators are using increasing amounts of this stuff — black—bag bin waste. but our investigation
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shows that burning this is the same as burning coal. and that's because we're using increasing amounts of this stuff — plastic — making energy from waste our dirtiest way of making electricity. we do have concerns about the building of new energy—from—waste plants. this can't be seen as a sort ofjust a way of getting out ofjail for free and dealing with the whole kind of management of waste. the extra plastic that's now in our waste, made from fossil fuels like oil, is the main element driving up incinerator emissions. but carbon is also generated by the long journeys that our bin bags go on from our homes to where they're burned. incinerators in the northeast of england now burn rubbish from all over the region, and from as far afield as merseyside — some 150 miles away. this is teesside, a key part of the uk's industrial heritage. for decades, blast furnaces along this river made
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steel for the world. but those days are gone. now the furnaces around here are mainly used to incinerate our rubbish. we have an incineratorjust over on this side that's already burning 400,000 tonnes worth of rubbish. now, in the pipeline, there are other incinerators, as well. for my area — for redcar, my home town, which has suffered a massive decline over the years — it'sjust another kick in the face. we're going to end up with a situation where we're importing everybody else's rubbish, we're becoming the rubbish back yard — of england, at least — and it's simply not acceptable. we raised these questions with the body that represents uk incinerator operators. in a statement, they said... the government said
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they are considering the role waste incineration will play as it decarbonises and grows the economy. for mandy royle, the personal impact of living next door to an energy—from—waste site is taking its toll. you're embarrassed to have people come round, you know, seeing where you live. so i'm sort of stuck. i'm stuck in a rut down here. matt mcgrath, bbc news. you can watch more on this story in the nightmare next door, available on iplayer from 6pm this evening. tomorow, we'll be looking into this issue more — looking at where these giant furnaces are built and how the companies that run them operate. england's health watchdog has "significant failings" in how it works, according to a damning independent review on the care and quality commission. the government says the system for protecting nhs patients and care home residents is too complicated and needs to be overhauled.
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our health correspondent, sophie hutchinson, has this report. hospitals, gps and care homes are all inspected for safety, among other standards, by the watchdog, the care quality commission. it gives them a rating from outstanding to requires improvement. but today, it's the inspectors themselves who've been rated by an independent review. it says there are significant failings with the cqc�*s operational effectiveness, including poorly conducted inspections and an inability to deliver improvements. we recognise that the inspections have been poorly led, that the benefits that should come from a really good regulator haven't been there. instead, we've had poor quality inspections that have frustrated our members and added little to patient safety. the review follows multiple health care scandals, such as the maternity crisis at shrewsbury and telford nhs trust, where several hundred babies died and where some
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units had not been inspected for a number of years. the government has said it's taking steps to root out poor performing inspections. it's ordered two further reviews, one of which will look into patient safety at six key health organisations, including at the cqc. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. here in the uk, a labour mp is seeking stricter controls on smartphones for teenagers. josh macallister says children need stronger protections in place up to the age of 16, including a ban on phones in schools. his private members bill has won the backing of education unions, parent campaigners and the current childrens commissioner for england. here's our education editor, branwen jeffreys. handing phones over to be locked away for the school day.
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the secondary in widnes is phone free from this term. for the year 11s, it's been a big mental shift. i used to be dead het up about how i looked around people, how everything perceive me. i don't have it on me, so i don't know what's happening with it, what's going on. i basically don't need it, so it has taken my anxiety away. i always wanted to have my phone on me, just to make sure, whereas now i see it more as a tool rather than something and dependent on. it is a locked room, i yes, so only a couple of people have a key. the head teacher told me mental health is improving. there is less sharing of harmful comments or content. a lot of our girls have l said they no longer feel like they're being held hostage by a phone, but they _ also feel not compelled to go i and check what has been going on in a group chat. they are having more - meaningful conversations. they feel better in - themselves, they have already reported that. in addition, they are most focused within lessons. i all secondary schools have policies on how pupils use smartphones. for many of them, it's
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not seen, not hurt. but now schools are going further, with more moving to being completely smartphone free. now, an mp is calling for a legal ban in all schools in england and stricter controls on when teenagers can consent to data sharing. it's having a massive effect on kids' mental health, on their sleep, and on their education and around the world, governments are taking action on this and it's time in the uk that we have the debate here as well. some parent campaigners are backing stricter controls. rebecca won't give her ten—year—old daughter a smartphone, worried that some platforms are addictive. i think that because it has been calibrated specifically to keep the feed up, it's a never—ending parade of things that they like, isn't it, which i think is very much impacting how these kids are learning. schools are tightening up. parents set their own boundaries. the tech companies
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point to protections online, with the pressure for smartphone restrictions stepping up. ukraine says it shot down 12 attack drones launched by russia overnight. but such interceptions are an almost nightly occurrence 1,000 days into russia's full—scale invasion. across the country, ukraine's air force relies on volunteers to help protect the skies — and with many men being called up to the frontline, more women are stepping in. our eastern europe correspondent, sarah rainsford joined one patrol, who call themselves the witches of bucha. drones buzz. the buzz of danger over kyiv. russia's attack drones arrive here almost nightly now, forcing ukraine's air defences into this deadly game of search and destroy. so outside the city, they're supported by volunteer teams.
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we followed one in a recent air raid, as they rushed to help protect the skies. they call themselves the witches of bucha because apart from him, they're women, stepping in as ever, more men are sent to the front line. a vet and a manicurist helping assemble a machine gun that's more than eight decades old. it's ancient, but effective. the team say it's downed three drones so far. valentina is saying that the drones could see the light and could respond to that, they don't know how the drones are going to behave. so they're saying they need to, we need to work in the dark, essentially. on her tablet, yulia spots two drones in the air. but not close yet.
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translation: of course, it'sl nervous work because we need to be focussed, to react to the slightest sound. this is how the bucha witches now spend their weekends. lesson one, on storming a building. not perfected yet, but these skills are empowering for women who lived through the russian takeover of their region and were terrified. translation: i remember how we were under occupation. - i remember all that horror. i remember the screams of my own child. i remember the dead people when we were fleeing. that's where i find the strength to go on. they combine doing all this with their dayjobs.
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a maths teacher and an office manager tired of feeling helpless. translation: ukrainian suffer for the people - who are no longer here, those taken by the stupid war. then they were recruiting women here and i tried it and didn't fall apart. this full—scale war will soon be 1,000 days old and valentyna's life has been transformed. but the women here refuse to give up believing in victory and in their role trying to bring that about. sarah rainsford, bbc news, near bucha. we are going to take you to the post office inquiry, under way in london and dip in to hear evidence from mike young, the former chief of technology and operations services director.
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he was blamed by paula vennells is one of several people she said had let her down. he has been talking about his relationship with fujitsu. i knew it was small numbers in comparison to the network as a whole. i think they were at the time 62 affected branches. hate time 62 affected branches. we will come _ time 62 affected branches. we will come onto some of that detait— will come onto some of that detail shortly. you said in your— detail shortly. you said in your statement it was in march 2010 _ your statement it was in march 2010 that — your statement it was in march 2010 that you learned the underlying root cause of the faults, — underlying root cause of the faults, the bugs, where a fault in the — faults, the bugs, where a fault in the oracle database software. so that is consistent with _ software. so that is consistent with what. .. software. so that is consistent with what... it is slightly different in that march 2010 is when — different in that march 2010 is when the problem, the underlying cause was are identified. do you recall how tong — identified. do you recall how tong it — identified. do you recall how long it took fuge it to ——
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fur'itsu _ long it took fuge it to —— fujitsu took to identify that because? it fujitsu took to identify that because?— fujitsu took to identify that because? . , . , ., because? it was a number of weeks. because? it was a number of weers- can _ because? it was a number of weers- can i _ because? it was a number of weeks. can i be _ because? it was a number of weeks. can i be specific? - because? it was a number of| weeks. can i be specific? no, but it was a number of weeks. in my world, it was too long and there was a lot of telephone communication from me to the ceo fujitsu around where his sense was on finding the issue and mitigating it. again, as you are evaluating the continuing roll—out versus a rollback, those conversations were pretty much imperative. there is no doubt about it, that from the point it had been identified to the point, as in we've got an issue, to the point that we've got, it looks like it is bug related and some form of potential resolution
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from fujitsu, in my mind, it took way too long and not in my world in my tech world, not the normal time frame for resolution around a software bug. i had a viewpoint that suggested as it was coded related, finding the issue in the code and then someone goes into that code and fixes are almost overnight. as we know now today, today, digital systems are done that way today right down to your iphone. sol had a view then it should be days are not weeks and this took way too long. i cannot be specific about the date but my general take at the time and a feeling i have now is it took way too long to address. i way too long to address. i would like to ask you, i wish to clarify. _ would like to ask you, i wish to clarify, please, what you say — to clarify, please, what you say about these two bugs in
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paragraph 46 of your statement. that is— paragraph 46 of your statement. that is at— paragraph 46 of your statement. that is at the bottom of page 15 and — that is at the bottom of page 15 and over the page, page 16, i5 and over the page, page 16, please, — 15 and over the page, page 16, please, if— i5 and over the page, page 16, please, if we could bring that up. please, if we could bring that un thank— please, if we could bring that up. thank you very much. thank you. that is excellent. you — thank you. that is excellent. you explained there, it was in march — you explained there, it was in march 2010 you learned that the faults _ march 2010 you learned that the faults causing the service interruptions and delays during the pilot— interruptions and delays during the pilot were two different oracle _ the pilot were two different oracle bugs, that being faults in the — oracle bugs, that being faults in the oracle database software. you say the two oracle _ software. you say the two oracle bugs, errors, defects, caused — oracle bugs, errors, defects, caused a _ oracle bugs, errors, defects, caused a data mismatch. you say, — caused a data mismatch. you say, therefore i still maintain there — say, therefore i still maintain there is— say, therefore i still maintain there is fundamentally nothing wrong — there is fundamentally nothing wrong with the system. can you please — wrong with the system. can you please explain what you mean by
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that? _ please explain what you mean by that? why is the data mismatch meaning — that? why is the data mismatch meaning there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the system? | fundamentally wrong with the s stem? ., . system? i have been in the technology _ system? i have been in the technology world _ system? i have been in the technology world for - system? i have been in the technology world for a - system? i have been in the technology world for a long time. i have rolled out probably thousands of systems. so i guess the point i am trying to make as part of that process is, when you are in a pilot, you are going to have problems. i have never known a pilot pilot in any roll—out of any system not have some sort of associated issues with it. again, i'm going to make the point, today you can be given a new phone and within weeks, it will have a software update. it is dealing essentially with the bugs that have come to light that were not seen or had not come to light in the test type process. this was no different
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on horizon online. i knew that providing we could identify the nature of the bugs that we could address that software. it is still in pilot, not in a roll—out, and at the point the bugs were found, roll—out stopped. so i am in a place as the executive in charge of it, with my cio, we are in charge of a process that if you like is half pregnant and we have to work out what we do next. part of my worry was we needed to have some surety from fujitsu that they could deal with the bugs once they had identified them and we could get back into smooth running. i look at that process, rightly or wrongly, but certainly from my point of view and experience, i look at that process is relatively the norm in rolling out a pilot and this was a pilot. it wasn't a great start to a pilot and there were lots of
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communications both to the board and my executive bodies and to royal mail group as a consequence. there were ramifications around some of that communication but i still felt relatively confident that having identified the bugs, the mitigations would have addressed it and we would be back to safe waters. therefore, fundamentally, i had faith in the system. so just to be clear because the way it— so just to be clear because the way it is— so just to be clear because the way it is written perhaps could be read — way it is written perhaps could be read in _ way it is written perhaps could be read in a number of different ways, but i think what _ different ways, but i think what you are saying is the mere fact that — what you are saying is the mere fact that her bug had caused a data _ fact that her bug had caused a data mismatch did not in itself mean — data mismatch did not in itself mean there was something fundamentally wrong with this system, — fundamentally wrong with this system, is that what you are saying? _ system, is that what you are sa in: ? ., system, is that what you are sa in: ? . ., system, is that what you are sa inc? . ., , ., saying? that would be a better wa of saying? that would be a better way of interpretative _ saying? that would be a better way of interpretative my - way of interpretative my answer, yes. now, i would like to look at some — now, i would like to look at some correspondence that he had with duncan tate, then managing
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director— with duncan tate, then managing director for the private sector divisionm _ director for the private sector division- - -_ director for the private sector division... . , ~ ,, ., division... that is mike young, former division. .. that is mike young, former chief— division... that is mike young, former chief of _ division... that is mike young, former chief of technology - division... that is mike young, former chief of technology and j former chief of technology and operations, giving evidence to the post office inquiry, talking about the bugs in the system, his communications with fujitsu to find out what might be going on with the horizon it system. he said it was taking too long in his sense, it should be days and weeks in his words but this took way too long. the consequences between 1999-2015, long. the consequences between 1999—2015, hundreds of sub—postmasters were wrongly prosecuted because of that faulty horizon accounting software. let's pull away from that inquiry and go to the weather now with carol kirkwood. hello again. we've been talking about the temperature a lot this week and over the couple of days, you'll notice it is going to turn much milder than it has been. you can see this illustrated on our air mass chart
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where we've got the yellows and also the ambers, notjust today, especially tomorrow but even as we go through the next few days. that does not mean it will be bone dry, it's actually going to be wet and windy. now today, it's a breezy day, mostly dry but there's a lot of cloud around and that's been producing some drizzly bits and pieces. the cloud should break as we go into the afternoon for some of us and it will brighten up but the lion's share of the sunshine today will be across the north of scotland. then we've got some rain coming in across the south—west later in the afternoon. temperatures 12 to 19 north to south. so, talking of later on in the day, you can see how we start off with all this cloud. the rain comes in from the south—west, pushing steadily north—eastwards. again, breezy, with exposure in particular, and some of the rain will be heavy and thundery, especially in the south. but once again, it is going to be a mild night. so we start on that note tomorrow. a lot of rain around. it's trying to edge northwards and eastwards, its passage being blocked by an area of high pressure on the near continent. but as it slowly moves towards the east, behind it, it will brighten up a little
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bit but there will still be some showers and dependent on how much sunshine we get in the south—eastern corner, we could see highs of 20 or 21 but regardless, it will be mild, even in the rain. so as we head through thursday, again, a lot of dry weather around after the rain clears and then into the weekend we've got more wet and windy conditions coming our way. so the rain clears early doors. that leaves us with a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine around, but a peppering of showers in the north and also the west. temperatures 13 to about 19 degrees. and, again, another windy day with exposure. into friday then, and friday too sees a lot of dry weather to start the day. it's going to be windy, especially in the west. a risk of gales across the far north—west. you can see some showers and then some heavier rain pushes in from the west as well. temperatures ranging from 12 in lerwick, to 16 in hull, to 17 in london.
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live from london, this is bbc news. israel says it will make decisions based on its own national interest, after a us media report suggests prime minister netanyahu opted against attacks on iranian nuclear sites. kamala harris and donald trump hold key rallies in the battleground state of pennsylvania, with just three weeks to go until the us election. north korea blows up roads and and closes rail lines with south korea in a dramatic bid it says to "completely separate" the two countries.
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the mother of a woman, who was killed by the nerve agent novichok in salisbury, gives evidence at a public inquiry. the uk's health secretary wes streeting says weight loss injections could be an effective tool for getting unemployed people back to work. hello, welcome to bbc news. we begin with the latest on the war in the middle east where the office of the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says a decision to retaliate against iran for its ballistic missile attack two weeks ago will be based on israels security needs. the statement was in apparent response to a report in the washington post which said mr netanyahu told president biden he would not target iranian oil or nuclear sites. it comes as the united nations says its peacekeepers in southern lebanon will not move from their positions, defying calls by israel to withdraw.
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