hamas vows to fight on after confirming the death of its leader, yayha sinwar, saying it has only strengthened the group. president biden has said there's a possibility israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu holds a security meeting to discuss the possibility of negotiations on a deal to referee the remaining hostages in gaza. as president joe biden who has been holding talks with european leaders and rebellion, says there is a possibility of working towards a ceasefire in lebanon. —— european leaders in berlin. hamas has reacted defiantly to the death of its leader ya hya sinwar, saying it will only strengthen the group's resolve. a senior hamas member also said no hostages will be freed until israel pulls its forces out of gaza. iran, which sponsors hamas, claims sinwar�*s death will inspire resistance. but world leaders including us presidentjoe biden

have said the killing of sinwar could represent a turning point in the conflict, and a fresh opportunity for ceasefire talks. let's speak to drjon b alterman, director of the middle east program at the centerfor strategic and international studies. how do you see at? do you think his death is a possible turning point, a possible opportunity for some sort of ceasefire talks? it for some sort of ceasefire talks? ., , ,., , , for some sort of ceasefire talks? ., , , , ., talks? it absolutely is a turning _ talks? it absolutely is a turning point. - talks? it absolutely is a turning point. but - talks? it absolutely is a turning point. but in i talks? it absolutely is a i turning point. but in some talks? it absolutely is a - turning point. but in some ways it gives you an opportunity in some cases and in some cases new challenges. yahya sinwar was a tough negotiator but he was a tough negotiator but he was a tough negotiator but he was a rejectionist and i was very sceptical that there were any circumstances under which yahya sinwar would have made a deal. in the absence of yahya sinwar leading hamas you are going to have a battle for control and a crisis of

authority. it is not clear and it won't be clear for several weeks who can negotiate on behalf of hamas in what kind of authority that person would have not only with hamas fighters and getting them to lay down their arms but also those in hamas and outside of hamas who are holding hostages. some of whom are more likely to give up hostages and some of them may be less likely to give up them may be less likely to give up hostages and decide to assassinate hostages and some of whom it may abandon hostages and say this is alljust too fraught. your we and say this is all “ust too fraught. youth and say this is all “ust too fraught. you and say this is all “ust too frau:ht. you ., �* ~ ., ., fraught. your we don't know who will take over _ fraught. your we don't know who will take over from _ fraught. your we don't know who will take over from yahya - will take over from ya hya sinwar will take overfrom yahya sinwar in hamas will take over from yahya sinwar in hamas but whoever it is we don't really know that benjamin netanyahu wants a ceasefire at the moment, maybe he just wants to keep on attacking hamas in gaza and hezbollah in lebanon? it seems to me that— hezbollah in lebanon? it seems to me that you _ hezbollah in lebanon? it seems to me that you if _ hezbollah in lebanon? it seems to me that you if you _ hezbollah in lebanon? it seems to me that you if you are - to me that you if you are benjamin netanyahu and say all of the time to have taken risks in the last six months that

people thought were reckless, netanyahu could say all of those risks have paid off, where it is assassinating leaders, whether it is bringing war to lebanon and really collapsing hezbollah�*s war, not making a ceasefire and hostage agreement with yahya sinwar as the us was pushing in may and july but instead fighting on to kill yahya sinwar and decapitate hamas. i think there is a part of benjamin netanyahu that says that now is the time to take risks and the risks are paying off and certainly now is not the time to back off, now is the time to leaning because everything is flowing away. he has talked all through this crisis, all through this war, of destroying hamas, clearly they have decapitated his leadership in the sense of yahya sinwar and other key

leaders in gaza but at what point can they really say they have destroyed hamas? it is true. israel— have destroyed hamas? it is true. israel has _ have destroyed hamas? it 3 true. israel has decapitated hamas leadership time after time and there's always been a new hamas leadership. one of the very serious concerns is that if you decapitate hamas how do you prevent a resurgence of hamas in the vacuum that follows. is there anything to replace it. is there some sort of legitimate national authority that can come in that can give people something else to be in favour of it? something else to support? the israelis have not been very interested in doing that, they have been quick to say that the palestinian national authority is not legitimate and we have this really a stark division between outside countries that say we want to help create governance in gaza but we want to do it as part of a two state solution. in the longer term.

and israeli polling that suggests that at least in the spring that four out of five israeli jews thought that a two state solution would not give israel's security. i think that getting in the next few months a question of if israel will do the things with international actors to lead towards a longer term solution, long—term political road map for gaza which will have international support or whether israel will continue to go it alone and perhaps plant the seeds for a long running research and see in gaza where hamas comes back because there is no alternative to hamas. because there is no alternative to hame— because there is no alternative to hamas. very good to talk to ou, to hamas. very good to talk to you. jon. _ to hamas. very good to talk to you. jon. thank— to hamas. very good to talk to you, jon, thank you _ to hamas. very good to talk to you, jon, thank you very - to hamas. very good to talk to you, jon, thank you very much| you, jon, thank you very much indeed. which is going to take you to the united states briefly because we have live pictures coming in of kamala harris, the vice president of the democratic party and

contender for the white house and she is speaking in michigan at the moment. she was speaking yesterday in fact and we brought you her comments on the death of yahya sinwar. she is campaigning in michigan right now and donald trump is also in the state of michigan, one of the state of michigan, one of the key battleground states and we'll be reflecting much more on the closing stages of their american presidential race late on in the programme but kamala harris is speaking there in michigan. back to the middle east... inside gaza, there are growing fears of famine as winter approaches. the uk prime minister sir keir starmer, at a meeting with president biden and european leaders, said the world won't tolerate any more excuses on humanitarian assistance. the israeli government doesn't allowjournalists from the bbc and other foreign news organisations independent access to gaza. from jerusalem our special correspondent fergal keane sent this report — a warning that it contains images you may find distressing. again, the un warns of famine.

again, it describes a catastrophe. again, israel denies a policy of starvation. and hunger renewed. charity keeps many from starvation. translation: there is - absolutely nothing available. the financial situation is very difficult and we cannot buy anything. even if prices drop, we still cannot buy. israel launched an offensive in the northern gaza strip two weeks ago and has impeded aid, according to the un and america. now, some trucks are entering since the united states warned israel it might cut arms shipments. arab states have dropped aid, but a prominent un figure told us, "nothing like what's needed."

the violations, the suffering of people on a day to day basis, including for very basic necessities, is unparalleled, is unprecedented. history will look back at this and judge and see, and ask questions about what the international community was doing when such atrocities were happening in gaza. nothing has changed in the reality of gazan lives in the last 2a hours. they're still burying their dead in deir al—balah. 12—year—old abdul rahman al—dalu died of burns in an israeli air strike. the fire that swept through their tents killed his 19—year—old brother shaban. they were refugees in a hospital compound. the israelis blame hamas, saying they operated in the compound. here they are in a selfie taken by shaban before the war, abdul rahman at the back.

his mother also killed. this the anguish of a father who could not save them. translation: he wasj the first one i was able to pull out of the fire. but this was his fate. three times i pulled him out of the fire, but his body was going back to it. i wish it was me. i wish the fire burned me but didn't burn my son. my whole life is gone. desperation in gaza, in all its forms. a food queue, among nearly two million people, pleading for small mercies. fergal keane, bbc news, jerusalem. let's discuss the situation in gaza a little bit more with our correspondent. harrowing scenes

that we saw there, the israeli government and the prime minister benjamin netanyahu accused of not allowing enough aid, not nearly enough aid into gaza, what is the latest on that? is gaza, what is the latest on that? , ,., ., gaza, what is the latest on that? , ., , that? is soon a the news was leaked of— that? is soon a the news was leaked of this _ that? is soon a the news was leaked of this letter - that? is soon a the news was leaked of this letter that - leaked of this letter that antony blinken and the us secretary of state and the defence minister had sent to israel saying that if you don't increase aid within 30 days we are going to have to suspend deliveries. the aid trucks suddenly started going to gaza. 30 trucks a day, 50 trucks a day. i'm looking for the latest on the website of israeli and they are saying that netanyahu has now ordered an increase of trucks up to 250 trucks a day and that is quite a significant increase in what is going on now. it is only half at what was going into gaza before the war but this at least is something that shows that they are responding to this pressure from the united states. as they have to. it is not the first

time. in april the united states also expressed concern because it is a legal issue then. underthe because it is a legal issue then. under the law, because it is a legal issue then. underthe law, if because it is a legal issue then. under the law, if there is impediments to humanitarian aid, then they are obliged to cut off military existence. lets talk about the fallout from the death of yahya sinwar, the hamas leader, there seems to be some optimism in the west that this could somehow be a turning point and bring about possibly a ceasefire in gaza, certainly, talks towards a ceasefire with a new leadership of hamas but benjamin netanyahu said yesterday that the war goes on. what is your reading of whether this might be some sort of turning point? bear of whether this might be some sort of turning point?— sort of turning point? bear in mind that — sort of turning point? bear in mind that those _ sort of turning point? bear in mind that those who - sort of turning point? bear in mind that those who are - sort of turning point? bear in i mind that those who are calling for a ceasefire and calling it an opportunity now that yahya sinwar is dead, we have been calling for ceasefires for months, keir starmer in britain, joe biden and many european leaders, time and again they have said to the israeli prime list, now is the time for stubborn fat, you may

remember whenjoe biden stood remember when joe biden stood up remember whenjoe biden stood up and said there was a special announcement that the plan had been agreed to by net netanyahu. they knew that prime is net netanyahu had objections. now they can say the objection has gone in yahya sinwar. in fact, the obstacle is not gone because prime minister netanyahu continues to say, and now he feels vindicated by the killing of yahya sinwar that he needs to keep troops inside the gaza strip, along the southern border with egypt in order to guarantee security of israel. what we're hearing from hamas today, at least in public, the same conditions, no return of the hostages until an end to the hostages until an end to the war which prime minister netanyahu said he won't do. also the departure of israeli troops which he has never said he will do. and quite frankly, his focus has shifted elsewhere, it seems that the lebanon front and other deliberations going on for their expected attack against

iran which could take place any day now. iran which could take place any da now. , , ., iran which could take place any da now. , ., ., , , day now. just on the leadership of hamas. _ day now. just on the leadership of hamas, yahya _ day now. just on the leadership of hamas, yahya sinwar- day now. just on the leadership of hamas, yahya sinwar is - day now. just on the leadership| of hamas, yahya sinwar is gone but we don't know yet who could replace him, there is talk of his brother mohammed could replace him but somebody equally hard—line. replace him but somebody equally hard-line.- replace him but somebody equally hard-line. many are sa in: equally hard-line. many are saying that _ equally hard-line. many are saying that this _ equally hard-line. many are saying that this was - equally hard-line. many are saying that this was what i saying that this was what happened in lebanon with the killing of the person who tipped to replace him was even more extreme. israel killed him and then even... nobody knew who is the third in line, but israel said they killed who is the th