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this is bbc news. the headlines — chris kaba, the man who was shot dead by a police officer, was a member a dangerous london gang. world leaders arrive in russia for the brics summit of emerging economies. moscow is aiming to show that russia has partners and allies. israel intensifies its aerial assault on lebanon — at least 13 people are killed in a strike next to the country's biggest hospital. the us secretary of state is back in israel for the 11th time, pushing for a ceasefire and the freeing of hostages. hello. welcome to bbc news now. the un aid agency operating in gaza says the israeli authorities are still preventing medicine and food from reaching people under siege in the north. and footage shot in the aftermath of an attack by israeli forces on a refugee camp injabaliya shows
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a nurse running in panic between the dead and wounded at a un school. israel says its offensive is aimed at stopping hamas from regrouping in northern gaza. our international editorjeremy bowen has seen the video. a warning — his report shows extremely graphic images. palestinian first responders went to collect bodies in a lull in israel's offensive injabalia and the rest of northern gaza. the un says gaza's nightmare is intensifying — a worsening humanitarian crisis amid what it calls "relentless israeli strikes." this was filmed this morning by a nurse called nabeela, in the moments after an israeli strike on a un school injabalia used as a shelter by civilians. close to panic, she tries to tell this woman to be calm, saying, "i have nothing to stop the bleeding." she turns back to help the other casualties.
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she is the only medic there. children are dead. a woman's leg has been blown off. and then she runs to get her medical bag. a child says, "please help — my sister is dying." nabeela hasn't got much — a few basic wound dressings. "use this," she says. one of the women says, "my children are gone — look at them." back down the stairs, past dead children, and then she screams when she sees the dead body of an elderly man she recognises. screaming. northern gaza this morning, just after an air strike, from a vantage point a few miles away in israel. it's a public holiday here. this is a popular place to observe the war.
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israelis believe the killing and hostage—taking by hamas, and the way palestinians voted for them, makes the war in gaza and the others that followed necessary and just. if they would return the hostages, then i would have what to feel for them. in the meantime, there's nothing i can feel for them. they have started this. they entered israel. they attacked us. and all this is the results of their initial actions. a short drive away, close to the gaza border, it was a family day out for israelis who believe the war has given them the chance to recreate a very different gaza. they want to restore jewish settlements inside the gaza strip that the israeli government removed in 2005. these people know what they want when eventually there is a ceasefire in gaza. the israeli government has only really said what it doesn't want. it doesn't want any kind of governance that looks like progress towards a palestinian state.
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now, that is a problem for its western allies — the americans, the british and others — because they believe a palestinian state alongside israel is the only way to stabilise the region and not have perpetual war. anita toker, in the blue hat, brought herfamily up on a farming settlement in the gaza strip. for her, leaving was a gross injustice. i played her a report i did about her departure 19 years ago. this is an integral part of the state of israel. since that day in 2005, they have dreamed about a return. now they see palestinians forced out of large areas of gaza and are pushing to replace them. i think we have an opportunity to build much more than we had before. i think we should build cities in some of the places. we should bring many, many more of israel's population into the gaza strip. i think those people in the gaza strip,
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and there are a lot, that want to leave, that want to leave, why is egypt and israel not allowing them to leave and go to europe? the bomb shelters where israelis fled from hamas have been made into memorials to the dead and the hostages. this is where many were cornered and killed. inside, memorial candles where they died. 0utside, they have posted their biographies. the war is changing the middle east in ways no—one fully understands yet, and it is widening and escalating. jeremy bowen, bbc news, southern israel. jewish settlers including members in benjamin netanyahu's cabinet have gathered on the border of gaza on monday. they call for settlements israel evacuated two decades ago to be re—established in the war—torn
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territory. translation: we re-established in the war-torn territory. translation: we can return home _ territory. translation: we can return home to _ territory. translation: we can return home to gaza, _ territory. translation: we can return home to gaza, and - territory. translation: we can return home to gaza, and we . territory. translation: we can| return home to gaza, and we can do another thing, encourage emigration of palestinians, encourage emigration. not by force, but by telling them, we are giving you the options. leave to other countries. the land of israel is ours. with me is jan egeland, secretary general of the norwegian refugee council. we have just seen we havejust seen more we have just seen more forces at play, but i want to ask about antony he has arrived, leavened that he has now made, what do you realistically think
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he can achieve? because he has been ineffectual so far. he has, been ineffectual so far. he has. but — been ineffectual so far. he has, but we're _ been ineffectual so far. he: has, but we're hopeful. we desperate, really. in many years, we have not seen the kind of bombardment in a heavily populated besieged enclave filled with mostly women and children over such a long period of time. and then the united states, with western allies, not even able to enable humanitarian relief into a place that is besieged by their ally henchman netanyahu, to whom they give indiscriminate arms for an indiscriminate campaign. you cannot really make it up. and the rest of the world, big business are shaking their hands for this industrial style hypocrisy, occupation in ukraine is very wrong, and we
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are all condemning it, so how come there is not the same attitude about occupation, indiscriminate bombing, and settlers who are sitting in the government of israel? mb? settlers who are sitting in the government of israel? why is us influence not _ government of israel? why is us influence not working? _ government of israel? why is us influence not working? part - government of israel? why is us influence not working? part of i influence not working? part of the problem — influence not working? part of the problem is _ influence not working? part of the problem is it _ influence not working? part of the problem is it is _ influence not working? part of the problem is it is such - influence not working? part of the problem is it is such a - the problem is it is such a polarising issue, the us congress is biased completely, but it is undermining the us, the uk, germany, european union's credibility and moral authority in the world that one is not able to curb this systematic abuse of international law. in the gaza and in lebanon. i international law. in the gaza and in lebanon.— and in lebanon. i had an interview— and in lebanon. i had an interview with _ and in lebanon. i had an interview with the - and in lebanon. i had an| interview with the former israeli justice minister, interview with the former israelijustice minister, saint now is the time for a ceasefire. are you getting the sense that there are more
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voices in a drill saying it is time to stop?— voices in a drill saying it is time to stop? yeah, i think the 're time to stop? yeah, i think they're coming _ time to stop? yeah, i think they're coming back. - time to stop? yeah, i think they're coming back. of- time to stop? yeah, i think- they're coming back. of course, much of that is also related to the hostages. the families of hostages have been very clear. as real�*s continued campaign is also really ending the life expectancy of the hostages —— israel's continued campaign. but i think there is empathy. he and i orchestrated the oslo agreement with the palestinian partners in 1992 and 1993. that kind of peace camp is however gone from central israeli policies. gone from central israeli policies-_ gone from central israeli olicies. �* , policies. and can you ever see something _ policies. and can you ever see something like _ policies. and can you ever see something like that _ policies. and can you ever see | something like that returning? something like the oslo accord? i think there will be a return to negotiations, and in the bleakest moments there's often a reboot, so there be a day after this conflict both in
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gaza and in lebanon where they have to discuss a future, but to be benjamin netanyahu government and hamas cannot be there for those talks, because they are extremists. there has to be others coming in. you just should be minister of the interior, he belongs to the extremist fringes of israeli politics, and now he is the minister of the interior. something very wrong has happened. something very wrong has happened-— something very wrong has hauened. ., ,�* ~ happened. antony blinken has firm priorities, _ happened. antony blinken has firm priorities, one _ happened. antony blinken has firm priorities, one of - happened. antony blinken has firm priorities, one of them i happened. antony blinken has firm priorities, one of them is| firm priorities, one of them is about getting aid into northern gaza. one of your colleagues says it is absolutely desperate, and he is calling for a pause in the fighting to get some aid in. is anybody getting income is your agency able to get anything in at the moment?— able to get anything in at the moment? ., . ., ., ., moment? not much at all. i have now more — moment? not much at all. i have now more than _ moment? not much at all. i have now more than 50 _ moment? not much at all. i have now more than 50 colleagues - moment? not much at all. i have now more than 50 colleagues on | now more than 50 colleagues on the ground inside gaza. they
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work 24/7 to save lives. we are hardly getting any trucks in, we get in a few, we immediately distribute to people who are starving. in the north, there is now a procedure meant within the general siege of gaza for the general siege of gaza for the 100,000 people in north gaza, including a refugee camp called jabaliya. there, i think they let in 30 trucks per day, which is nothing to a starving population, so it is a policy of starvation, and i think it has to be recognised. i hope the us can do without something now, because they fund and they arm their ally israel. aha, now, because they fund and they arm their ally israel.— arm their ally israel. a new re ort arm their ally israel. a new report out _ arm their ally israel. a new report out today _ arm their ally israel. a new report out today talking - arm their ally israel. a new. report out today talking about poverty rates across the palestinian territories
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doubling as a result of the conflict to over 74%. when antony blinken is there talking about reconstruction and what gazais about reconstruction and what gaza is going to look like after this war ends, it is almost beyond imagination what they are going to face. as an aid agency, are you looking at that already, are you and we focused on the immediate crisis? �* ., ., ., focused on the immediate crisis? ., . ., crisis? both. now we are not even able — crisis? both. now we are not even able to _ crisis? both. now we are not even able to cope _ crisis? both. now we are not even able to cope with - crisis? both. now we are not even able to cope with the i even able to cope with the immediate needs of emergency aid so that people can survive. but we are also thinking of the rebuilding phase, the norwegian refugee council was the elected chair of this so—called shelter cluster of organisations, so 30 organisations that have been given the task of providing shelter which is housing populations in gaza. how can we do that when two thirds of all
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housing is either destroyed or damaged? not five or ten or 20% as in previous wars, 60 or 70% is either destroyed or damaged which meansjust is either destroyed or damaged which means just the is either destroyed or damaged which meansjust the rubble removal will take many years. who is going to be responsible for this? which countries are going to step in? where's the money going to come from? well, accordin: money going to come from? well, according to _ money going to come from? well, according to international- money going to come from? well, according to international law, - according to international law, it would be israel. they broke it, really, and hamas, of course. those who break it are also responsible, but hamas is an insurgency movement. israel is a member of the united nations, it is a state in relations to the west. they have a responsibility. in reality, it would be external donors, hopefully the gulf countries and others would come in. we have no capacity to rebuild gaza. what we can do is
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repair damaged housing and provide emergency housing, and we are desperately trying to get enough tents so that people do not freeze to death. this very harsh winter awaits in gaza. , ., very harsh winter awaits in gaza. ., ., ., gaza. global cooperation and willingness— gaza. global cooperation and willingness to _ gaza. global cooperation and willingness to come - gaza. global cooperation and willingness to come togetherj gaza. global cooperation and i willingness to come together in terms of a post—war gaza and what it would look like, the will is going to have to be enormous? do you sense that that will be there? it enormous? do you sense that that will be there?— that will be there? it depends on some can _ that will be there? it depends on some can a _ that will be there? it depends on some can a political - on some can a political agreement again. various saints believe that there will be some peace. israel has to recognise the palestinians' right to have their own home that is safe. hamas and other groups cannot deny is real the right to exist. the two have never recognised each other. we need
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that kind of recognition also for the international community to invest in the rebuilding which would be hundreds of billions of dollars.— which would be hundreds of billions of dollars. given what we are now — billions of dollars. given what we are now seen _ billions of dollars. given what we are now seen with - billions of dollars. given what we are now seen with the - we are now seen with the continued bombardment of gaza and also in lebanon, what do you believe benjamin netanyahu's endgame is, before he is prepared to properly sit down and think about a ceasefire?— down and think about a ceasefire? they have this elusive aspiration - ceasefire? they have this elusive aspiration of - ceasefire? they have this - elusive aspiration of crushing everything that is military resistance by military means, but hamas is a movement delimited in gaza have a long time, they have military wings, social winds, social workers, they have that night it is not going to be exterminated. now is hezbollah going to be hezbollah was born during the previous israeli occupation of southern lebanon. the only way
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is through talks, negotiations, broken with a lot of pressure from arab countries, from western countries, that can of the various sides so that there will be coexistence in the future, there is no military solution here, there willjust be a lot of dead children. before you go, i wanted to ask you, because i know you have just returned, and you spend so much time with your people, aid workers right now are essential for discrediting humanitarian supplies, for saving lives, but how are your people? how are these teams? it has been more than a year now, how are they? it depends on. in gaza, they are very badly off, so in lebanon because these are families, fathers and mothers who have themselves fled. many of my colleagues in gaza having fled five, six, seven, eight, nine times in the most extreme cases will stop again and again, they have seen at their home destroyed or they have
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