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tv   The Context  BBC News  October 22, 2024 9:00pm-9:31pm BST

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hello, i'm ggm. you're watching the context on bbc news. in terms of putin sending a message to the west, "you tried to isolate me over the war in ukraine, but you failed". today, world leader after world leaderflying into kazan, shaking hands with putin, or giving him a hug. it's very much a statement, saying, "look, i'm still standing. we're still here, we're still relevant." you've got 36 delegations, you've got more than - a score of heads of state. so on the surface, it's a great way to showcase the lack- of isolation that the west has been able to impose over- the last two—and—a—half years of war. _ you know, i do not expect a lot of concrete results. we would definitely not see that more countries will already bejoining brics at this summit. joining me tonight are,
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journalist and editor of politichoe — oli dugmore and columnist and policy editor at the bulwark. mona charen. first, the latest headlines. president putin has met xi jinping at the brics summit in russia, calling the chinese leader a �*dearfriend'. he said the two countries should work together to create what he called a just world order. police in the united states have arrested the former boss of the fashion chain, abercrombie and fitch, and his partner on suspicion of sex trafficking. prosecutors accused mikejeffries and matthew smith of the sexual exploitation and abuse of men at events they hosted. america's top diplomat, antony blinken, on a visit tojerusalem, has urged israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, to capitalise on the recent killing of hamas�*s leader by securing the release of all hostages and ending
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the conflict in gaza. facebook and instagram owner meta is to introduce facial recognition technology to try and crack down on scammers who fraudulently use celebrities in adverts. it will work by comparing images from ads flagged as being dubious with celebrities�* facebook or instagram profile photos. if the image is a confirmed to be a match, and the ad a scam, it will be automatically deleted. a lot of early voting in the united states that is to show you what is let me take you to madison, wisconsin, where former us president barack obama and democratic vice presidential nominee tim walz are campaigning on the first day of early voting in the state. i understand why folks are looking to shake things up. i get it. what i cannot
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understand is why anybody would think that donald trump will shake things up in a way that is good for you. that i do not understand. because there is absolutely no evidence that this man thinks about anybody but himself. i've said before, donald trump is a 78—year—old billionaire who hasn't stopped whining about his problems since he came down that golden escalator nine years ago. and he is complaining two or three in the morning, what is he doing? when he not complaining, he's to sell you stuff. —— trying to sell you stuff. you're running for president...
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let us take you tojd vance, the republican nominee also speaking in arizona tonight. so harris economic plan is to wage war on— harris economic plan is to wage war on american energy, drive up war on american energy, drive up the — war on american energy, drive up the cost _ war on american energy, drive up the cost of oil, drive up the — up the cost of oil, drive up the cost _ up the cost of oil, drive up the cost of natural gas and drive — the cost of natural gas and drive up _ the cost of natural gas and drive up the cost of everything that requires low energy costs which — that requires low energy costs which is — that requires low energy costs which is everything that we huy~ — which is everything that we buy. from the home so we buy, to the _ buy. from the home so we buy, to the food _ buy. from the home so we buy, to the food that gets delivered to the food that gets delivered to the — to the food that gets delivered to the grocery store. donald trump's _ to the grocery store. donald trump's plan to bring down energy— trump's plan to bring down energy prices is very simple, it is— energy prices is very simple, it is dritt. _ energy prices is very simple, it is drill, baby, drill. we have _ it is drill, baby, drill. we have plenty of oil and gas, and our country, let's get out of the — our country, let's get out of the ground. kamala is bragging, bragging — the ground. kamala is bragging, bragging about raising taxes on american — bragging about raising taxes on american citizens and the rewarding companies that ship americanjobs overseas rewarding companies that ship american jobs overseas and i think— american jobs overseas and i think that _ american jobs overseas and i think that gives us it exactly backwards. donald trump is going — backwards. donald trump is going to _ backwards. donald trump is going to lower your taxes... iii
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going to lower your taxes. .. 14 da 5 going to lower your taxes... days to go it going to lower your taxes... i4 days to go it will be discussing politics in 25 minutes. president putin has been welcoming delegations from more than 30 countries — as russia hosts the brics summit, of global economies. among leaders gathered in the city of kazan: china's xijinping, whom mr putin described as a "dearfriend". mr putin said russia and china should work together to create what he called a just world order. we know that mr putin has been meeting with indian prime minister narendra modi too. mr modi wrote on x: meanwhile, narendra modi is also set to meet china's president xi at the summit tomorrow — for the first time in five years. that's after reports of agreement being reached on recent border disputes between the two countries. china's foreign ministry spokesperson linjian told a briefing earlier that the two countries had reached a solution, which they would both work to implement.
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but what is the brics group? it stands for brazil, russia, india, china and south africa and is often referred to as a counterweight to the western—led world. it has expanded to include egypt, ethiopia, iran and the united arab emirates. saudi arabia too, has been invited tojoin. earlier, i heard from the historian peter frankopan. we've been withdrawing from international organisations thatis international organisations that is created a vacuum that suits vladimir putin, shoots president she should and paying that that since president xi jinping. in those kinds of collaborations at a time when we spending our time worrying about happens in the middle east and potential intervention in iran by israel and other
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joining alongside. and this is something we really need to take very seriously at.- take very seriously at. very briefl , take very seriously at. very briefly, peter, _ take very seriously at. very briefly, peter, does- take very seriously at. very briefly, peter, does the - take very seriously at. very l briefly, peter, does the west need to recalibrate because while we potentially see us enemies in the red combos with those two key conflicts in ukraine in the middle east coming closer together. what is in our own _ coming closer together. what is in our own national— coming closer together. what is in our own national interest - coming closer together. what is in our own national interest in l in our own national interest in security priorities, do you want a globally stable system with the united states being the policeman and you have the brics group saying that it could be done without the interventions of the west and their certain voices in washington that welcomed the effect of the united states can minded back yard and not worry about global affairs but it's a new age for us to think in the end of the settlements of the second world war that creates something very different and as i mentioned, these countries are very different to each other and all have different
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agendas and political systems and ambitions but they are all trying to work through a way in which they can collaborate and operate. that language of multilateralism and just development is aimed directly at that they're being basically left behind by the west. to oli dugmore is a journalist and editor of politichoe mona charen columnist and policy editor at the bulwark. bringing you in first, you are involved in the reagan era administration in the us and worked with nancy reagan, we looked at the positioning of donald trump compared to president reagan, it is light years apart and we are in a different time. looking at what is happening with brics, do you think it is a real threat to the us? i think it is a real threat to the us?— think it is a real threat to the us? ., �* �* ,, the us? i don't. the brics u-rou the us? i don't. the brics grow) likes— the us? i don't. the brics group likes to _ the us? i don't. the brics group likes to advertise i the us? | don't. the brics. group likes to advertise that it's a large percentage of the worlds population, 45% but it's
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a tiny percentage of the world economy and of the world hotspots gdp and even without china, it would be a tiny fraction and course, even within this so—called alliance, and it really is not an alliance, india and china are constantly at daggers drawn and sometimes literally fighting over their border. and it would be awfully difficult to dislodge as prudent sometimes fantasises about, dislodging fa ntasises about, dislodging the fantasises about, dislodging the dollar as the world reserve currency. particularly when the alternatives are quite unstable regimes with a very small economies compared to the united states and we still have for all of our faults, united states and we still have for all of ourfaults, and open economy and the rule of law and we have the advantage of 70 years of dominance in the world
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economy and people all over the world want to own dollars. and i think it's been overblown, this brics threat.- i think it's been overblown, this brics threat. bringing in ali, we this brics threat. bringing in ali. we have _ this brics threat. bringing in ali, we have seen _ this brics threat. bringing in ali, we have seen today - this brics threat. bringing in ali, we have seen today in i ali, we have seen today in announcement that china and india have potentially reached an agreement on their border dispute meeting between two leaders do tomorrow but china is the key economic player in that crew being in these countries are gathering as the world is facing two use conflicts —— huge conflicts. b, conflicts —— huge conflicts. a multi—quarter of the roads gdp and as— multi—quarter of the roads gdp and as long as china forms a part— and as long as china forms a part of— and as long as china forms a part of that relationship, russia _ part of that relationship, russia is able to circumvent western _ russia is able to circumvent western sanctions. trade between russia and china are at record _ between russia and china are at record highs and the fact of the matter is, as long as we try to — the matter is, as long as we try to sanction russia, that only— try to sanction russia, that only really is a chance of being _ only really is a chance of being effective if it is a high
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level— being effective if it is a high level of— being effective if it is a high level of global compliance and other— level of global compliance and other nations, if they are not there. — other nations, if they are not there. we _ other nations, if they are not there, we can sanction russia is much — there, we can sanction russia is much as— there, we can sanction russia is much as we like and russia's most _ is much as we like and russia's most sanctioned country at 16,000 _ most sanctioned country at 16,000 or more different sanctions against it. but the reason — sanctions against it. but the reason why the russian economy has not _ reason why the russian economy has not collapsed as people are predicted to us for a number of reasons — predicted to us for a number of reasons it _ predicted to us for a number of reasons. it is trading elsewhere and it's managed to inoculate — elsewhere and it's managed to inoculate itself against western sanctions by hoarding about — western sanctions by hoarding about half of its reserves in foreign _ about half of its reserves in foreign currencies whether that is, again. — foreign currencies whether that is, again, with the key announcement of the summer is driving _ announcement of the summer is driving it— announcement of the summer is driving it irr— announcement of the summer is driving it in trying to protect russia — driving it in trying to protect russia from an over reliance on the dollar— russia from an over reliance on the dollar and therefore being subject— the dollar and therefore being subject and able to be hurt by american _ subject and able to be hurt by american sanctions.— subject and able to be hurt by american sanctions. would look at the outcomes _ american sanctions. would look at the outcomes of _ american sanctions. would look at the outcomes of the - american sanctions. would look at the outcomes of the us - at the outcomes of the us election in a couple weeks' time, do you think they'll be big changes for example in relations with russia?
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tremendously. the risk is that we will inflict, a wound on ourselves by electing from who will then be an effective ally of vladimir putin instead of an opponent. it is hard to predict how that will go and although trump's instincts eric towards accommodation and sucking up to people like putin, his follow—through has not always been there. so it is possible he could be thwarted by various institutions or advisers. but certainly it will mark a dramatic change, he has basically said, for example in the debate with harris, he refused to say he wanted ukraine to win and that he would settle the entire conflict in 2a hours which, first of all, does not sound realistic. it also sounds very
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much like surrender which is what kamala has accused him of recommending. i5 what kamala has accused him of recommending.— recommending. is risk of over sanctioning — recommending. is risk of over sanctioning a _ recommending. is risk of over sanctioning a country - recommending. is risk of over sanctioning a country iran - recommending. is risk of over sanctioning a country iran andj sanctioning a country iran and russia and are you attempting to isolate those countries and force them together, we are seeing reports of north korea getting involved also in ukraine conflict. does the west need to re—evaluate the strategies? need to re-evaluate the strategies?— need to re-evaluate the strateuies? , ,, ., strategies? yes, i think iran is a great — strategies? yes, i think iran is a great example. - strategies? yes, i think iran. is a great example. sanctions quite — is a great example. sanctions quite often lead to unintended consequences and their effectiveness is questioned and people — effectiveness is questioned and people are often the most hurt and the — people are often the most hurt and the populations of most countries. in 2012, obama administration convinces us with— administration convinces us with financial transaction system _ with financial transaction system for business with iran as a — system for business with iran as a result of that, the iranian— as a result of that, the iranian economy crashes because they cannot do international business in a year later, you get — business in a year later, you get a — business in a year later, you get a moderate president elected in two years later, the
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iran nuclear deal get signed. the sanction is viewed as a success, _ the sanction is viewed as a success, a _ the sanction is viewed as a success, a little bit longer after— success, a little bit longer after that and the consequences of it for— after that and the consequences of it for the iranian people, terrihte _ of it for the iranian people, terrible consumer prices up by 30%_ terrible consumer prices up by 30% and — terrible consumer prices up by 30% and living standards collapsed. in the covid—19 hits and irans— collapsed. in the covid—19 hits and iran's ability to get access— and iran's ability to get access to medicine is crushed and _ access to medicine is crushed and as— access to medicine is crushed and as a _ access to medicine is crushed and as a result, hundreds of thousands of people die. it is not a — thousands of people die. it is not a simple case of this externalisation of our foreign policy— externalisation of our foreign policy were our options and a strongly— policy were our options and a strongly worded statement versus— strongly worded statement versus military intervention requires _ versus military intervention requires that middle ground because _ requires that middle ground because none don't have to do very— because none don't have to do very ntuch_ because none don't have to do very much with the private companies. not necessarily the best course of action. around ii—hundred inmates have been freed early today as part of efforts to ease overcrowding in prisons in england and wales. it's the second wave of early releases to try to free up space. offenders convicted of serious violence, sex crimes or terrorism are again excluded.
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the government has also launched a review of sentencing aimed at expanding the use of punishment outside prisons. the prison population in england and wales has been growing by around a,500 a year — faster than new cells have been built. yesterday the prison population in england and wales was 87,465 with 1,671 spare places. what's known as the "scandinavian model" is catching on in the us. its focus is on rehabilitation rather than punishment, to ensure that those leaving jail are productive members of society. synove andersen is a researcher at the unit for social and demographic research at statistics norway. she is one of the researchers behind the scandinavia prison project — and she walked me through the three main tenets of the project. the physical layout of the unit itself and the second is the unit policy, how they do their job and what they are allowed to do and the third asked to
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deal with staff training. so, the first point, that is what you see when you walked onto you see when you
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