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could you maybe give us an year. could you maybe give us an idea of— year. could you maybe give us an idea of what areas will be in there as well, _ idea of what areas will be in there as well, and this goes beyond what keir starmer said when he announced this, this _ keir starmer said when he announced this, this will go beyond the pure industrial— this, this will go beyond the pure industrial corporation and defence and security. could you give us an idea of— and security. could you give us an idea of where this will lead and what _ idea of where this will lead and what the — idea of where this will lead and what the next step will be from here? — what the next step will be from here? ~ . , . what the next step will be from here? ~ ., . ., ., what the next step will be from here? ~ .,, ., .,, ., ., here? well, as far as i am informed, the negotiations _ here? well, as far as i am informed, the negotiations about _ here? well, as far as i am informed, the negotiations about the _ here? well, as far as i am informed, the negotiations about the treaty - the negotiations about the treaty will be finished in the beginning of the year on the latest maybe even earlier, and i am only the defence minister. i have enough to work with on my business. as far as i am informed, it is about cultural change, industrial politics, it is about almost everything and it is necessary to do that, to make that restart after a long period and i really appreciate the decision to do that together, and to do it so
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quickly together so i am quite convinced that we will have in the beginning of the year this signing between your prime minister and our chancellor of this treaty. in between your prime minister and our chancellor of this treaty.— chancellor of this treaty. in what wa is chancellor of this treaty. in what way is that _ chancellor of this treaty. in what way is that a _ chancellor of this treaty. in what way is that a reset _ chancellor of this treaty. in what way is that a reset of _ chancellor of this treaty. in what way is that a reset of european l way is that a reset of european relations? _ way is that a reset of european relations?— way is that a reset of european relations? , . , ., ., relations? this is an ambition to strike a friendship, _ relations? this is an ambition to strike a friendship, a _ relations? this is an ambition to i strike a friendship, a wide-ranging strike a friendship, a wide—ranging friendship treaty. boris has said the timescale that it is likely to be completed on. that treaty will give legal effect to the defence agreement we signed today, and defence will be the first pillar of that new and wider friendship treaty. for us, ithink that new and wider friendship treaty. for us, i think we are just getting on with the job. we are humbled defence ministers, we see the increasing threats that our countries and our alliance faces. we know the concerns that our people have about increasing insecurity,
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increasing aggression, particularly from president putin, and ourjob is to get on and put into action what we have agreed today, and to develop for the longer term the weapons of the future. it means our troops will always have the edge over adversaries. in that way, we can also help set new standards, as well as new innovation within the nato alliance, doing what we have both said. europe nations taking more responsibility for the heavy lifting and the leadership within the nato alliance. thank you. larissa brown. minister pistorius, you have — larissa brown. minister pistorius, you have not supplied the ukrainians with taurus — you have not supplied the ukrainians with taurus and you also held up the delivery— with taurus and you also held up the delivery of— with taurus and you also held up the delivery of the leopards to the ukrainians. i'mjust wondering if you have — ukrainians. i'mjust wondering if you have changed your mind on torres
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and she _ you have changed your mind on torres and she witi— you have changed your mind on torres and she will supply those to the ukrainians, and with regard to this agreement— ukrainians, and with regard to this agreement to build long—range missiles, — agreement to build long—range missiles, can you give assurance to the uk _ missiles, can you give assurance to the uk that— missiles, can you give assurance to the uk that you would not block britain — the uk that you would not block britain from giving weapons such as those _ britain from giving weapons such as those to— britain from giving weapons such as those to the ukrainians or other allies— those to the ukrainians or other allies in— those to the ukrainians or other allies in the future? and secretary of state, _ allies in the future? and secretary of state, i'm just wondering if you think— of state, i'm just wondering if you think that — of state, i'm just wondering if you think that israel is acting with proportion in gaza and lebanon, and do you _ proportion in gaza and lebanon, and do you think— proportion in gaza and lebanon, and do you think that the british mititary— do you think that the british military would tolerate the same civitiah _ military would tolerate the same civilian casualty rate in a similar conflict? — civilian casualty rate in a similar conflict? . ~ civilian casualty rate in a similar conflict? . ,, , ., . ,, , ., ., conflict? thank you. thank you for our conflict? thank you. thank you for your questions — conflict? thank you. thank you for your questions. in _ conflict? thank you. thank you for your questions. in the _ conflict? thank you. thank you for your questions. in the first - conflict? thank you. thank you for your questions. in the first place, | your questions. in the first place, we did not change our opinion when it comes to taurus, not at all. because of reasons i am not allowed to discuss publicly. secondly, the work on the provision strike weapons will take some years, as we all know. therefore, it is not on me to
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discuss the question, whether we would allow particularly how do you say... hypothetically. to discuss it now. it isjust say... hypothetically. to discuss it now. it is just not the time for that. we will discuss all these questions in the time comes, but of course everybody is discussing the issue and the challenge of giving free and long—range distance for ukraine, but we won't deliver taurus and that is the decision of the german government. and on the israeli action in gaza, like in germany, we recently marked one year from october seven when hamas terrorists launched the most deadly attack on thejewish people since the holocaust. it also triggered more than a year of conflict in which the rate of civilian casualties in gaza has been too high. that is something that i
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have said directly and consistently say to the minister that i have in conversations with him, and we have always argued, both in opposition and in government, that the conduct of the conflict must be conducted in line with international humanitarian law, and we have also always argued that we stand fast with israel �*s right to defend itself, and israel �*s right to go after the terrorists that carried out that dreadful attack on october the 7th. this is edf, german tv. minister pistorius. — this is edf, german tv. minister pistorius, the agreement is also open _ pistorius, the agreement is also open to— pistorius, the agreement is also open to other partners as you just mentioned — open to other partners as you just mentioned. might this have a possible _ mentioned. might this have a possible negative impact on
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traditionally closed relations that germahy— traditionally closed relations that germany has with france? the opposite- _ germany has with france? the opposite. france _ germany has with france? the opposite. france is _ germany has with france? tie: opposite. france is involved. we talked to our french friend and have met with my colleague and friend about everything in this agreement for anything that has any concern with france. they know and they agree, and i think they willjoin full stop anyway, i don't know. they are absolutely involved and they are fine with what we are doing. thank ou. you. does this you. - does this deal you. — does this deal make it easier you. does this deal make it easier for the government to hit its target on increased — the government to hit its target on increased defence spending, or does it make _ increased defence spending, or does it make it— increased defence spending, or does it make it easier not to hit it? this— it make it easier not to hit it? this defence makes no difference to the commitment that we set out at the commitment that we set out at the election, and that we maintain now, that we are a government that will set a clear path to spending 2.5% of our gdp on defence. it will
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be the first time that this country has done so since 2010, also with a labour government. that was a commitment that keir starmer reaffirmed in ourfirst commitment that keir starmer reaffirmed in our first week in office at the nato summit in washington. it is a commitment which the chancellor has reinforced and reaffirmed this week. we are a government that will always do what is required to defend this country. when do you think you might hit that target _ when do you think you might hit that target them, and what did the chancellor say when you told her there _ chancellor say when you told her there was — chancellor say when you told her there was a deal that the germans were _ there was a deal that the germans were going to make our gun barrels for us? _ were going to make our gun barrels for us? ., ., were going to make our gun barrels for us? . ., ., ., for us? so, i am not going to say an hinu for us? so, i am not going to say anything that _ for us? so, i am not going to say anything that might _ for us? so, i am not going to say anything that might affect - for us? so, i am not going to say anything that might affect the . anything that might affect the announcement that the chancellor will make at the budget in ten days' time. but she welcomes, of course, the inward investment and the new gun barrel factory. she welcomes, of course, the inward investment from
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measures announced today. and she will welcome the fact that for both important german uk companies, this is a vote of confidence in the uk, it is a recognition that this agreement creates the long—term confidence that our military is will work more closely together, our industries can work more closely together, and that we are committed notjust together, and that we are committed not just to the weapons that together, and that we are committed notjust to the weapons that our troops need now, but the defence of our countries and nate needs for the future. christoph meier, please. dpa german press _ christoph meier, please. dpa german press agency. how concerned are you about— press agency. how concerned are you about reports that north korean sotdiers — about reports that north korean soldiers are now fighting on russia's_ soldiers are now fighting on russia's side in ukraine question what _ russia's side in ukraine question what does — russia's side in ukraine question what does this constitute a direct involvement of north korea in the war, involvement of north korea in the war. and — involvement of north korea in the war, and how should the west react to that? _ to that? we are checking the
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to that? — we are checking the implications with regard to international law at the moment, but anyway it is a new quality in that war we have to deal with. i don't know what is really the advantage they promise each other by doing that, i mean, we don't even know whether we are talking about 1500 or 12,000, or which kind of soldiers are coming to russia and to fight where and against. i don't know whether you have other information, but anyway, it is a new quality. it is a kind of escalation, and it shows as an important aspect. international conflicts are approaching very rapidly. north korea delivering, providing ammunition and weapons to russia. russia providing likewise systems and oil and gas and so on. it does have an impact, for example,
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on the security of south korea. north korean actions have an impact on north korean and chinese relationships. on this side it has an impact for the relationship between china and russia, and india and china, and india and russia. so we see international conflicts are getting more and more as to each other and linked to each other, which makes it not really easier to deal with them and to get an approach for de—escalation and for respecting approach for de—escalation and for respec
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