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dozens of people have been injured in central israel after a truck rammed into a group of people waiting at a bus stop north of in tel aviv. police there are treating it as a terror related incident. reports of intimidation at the ballot box as counting almost completes in georgia. international election monitors flag concerns over voting fraud following the victory of the ruling party. japan's ruling coalition is projected to miss a majority , as polls shut in a snap general election. japan's new prime minister had called the election just days after taking over as leader. welcome to the programme, i am lewis vaughanjones. the chancellor has announced £11; billion to rebuild crumbling schools and triple investment in free breakfast club as part of her first budget. the national education union
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has said the money was a first step but much more is needed. our education correspondent hazel shearing has more. you can see the marks on the ceiling... the tiles have fallen off... this was dave baker, the chief executive officer of the olympus academy trust, a few weeks ago, talking through the growing number of structural problems that the ageing patway community school in bristol is facing. mould on the ceiling tiles, not worth replacing because the whole thing will be knocked down in the next two years and we're having to think very carefully where we prioritise spending. this month, the bbc revealed that 23 schools on the school rebuilding programme, a list of 500 schools the government thinks are in the very worst condition, are being rebuilt and the department of education had been missing its targets for hiring builders. today, the chancellor has announced £11; billion for the school rebuilding programme and treasury says
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it is intended to ramp up progress and ensure that 50 schools in england i rebuilt every year. the move is being given a cautious welcome by school leaders. the money announced today will only take the ten—year rebuilding programme back on track it had fallen behind in the last administration. the good news is it gets us back on track. the last rebuilding survey suggested we would need another £111; billion invested to catch up, so we need to see longer term real investment. a good first step and it should be exactly that — a first up in investment and rebuilding. the chancellor has also announced free breakfast club for primary school pupils, saying she will triple spending on them next year. hazel shearing, bbc news. the secretary of state for education, bridget philippson, has been speaking this morning about the budget and what we can expect this morning with laura kunessberg...
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now, we've seen rachel reeves set out the clear fiscal rules that where it comes to day to day spending, we want to make sure there is stability there. but where it comes to investing in the long term prosperity of our country, this is a budget that will fix the foundations, but will also make sure that we invest in our schools. for example, there can be no more important place to start than education where it comes to those foundations. and we know that so much in children's lives is determined through the education system. now, that starts in the early years, and that's why early years education is my number one priority, because too many of our children arrive at school and they're not where they need to be. but right throughout their lives, i'm determined as education secretary to break that link between background and success. and that's why i'm also really pleased that alongside the investment we're setting out around the school rebuilding programme, we're also making commitments to provide additional support to our most vulnerable children. so children going through the social care system, for example, extra help for fostering and for kinship carers. and we're going to talk later
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in our time together about some of the specifics in your brief. but let's just stick with the budget for now. you know, we know there's going to be a hike in employers national insurance contributions. and rachel reeves confirmed that doesn't fall under her definition of a tax on working people. why are people who run businesses not working people? what we set out in our manifesto was that we would not increase vat, national insurance or income tax on working people. and coming out of this budget, working people will not see higher taxes in the payslips that they receive. that is really important because we know the pressures that people are under on other measures in the budget, other tax measures. you'll have to wait to ask directly rachel reeves when she is here and i can't speculate, you'll appreciate, you know, the sunday ahead of the budget. i can't speculate on precise tax measures. this isn't speculating. i'm asking a question of principle. why are people who run businesses not working people under the chancellor's own definition? because our manifesto is all about vat, national insurance
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and income tax on people whose main source of income is the income that they earn from going out. that they earn from going out to work. that's not really what your manifesto said, actually, your manifesto said repeatedly. in fact, here's a quote here from rachel reeves. you've read it. it says in black and white, we won't increase national insurance, income tax and vat. so i'll ask you again, why are people who run businesses not working people in this government's eyes? as i say, our manifesto was very clear about who we were talking about and what we meant. why do measures, other spending and taxation measures within the budget. you'll appreciate the chancellor will set all of those out, and it's more than myjob is worth to come on your programme and announce ahead of time what might or might not be in a budget. i'm not secretary of state asking you about the decisions on wednesday. i'm asking you what you mean as a government, what you meant in your manifesto by working people. the definition of this is incredibly important because you're using it as the foundation for how you make decisions about people's
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payslips, people's income. so how do you define a working person? well, you are inviting me to speculate by the nature of the question that you're asking. what i'm saying is that after the budget, when people look at their payslips, they will not see higher taxes. i think that's a very clear commitment about why we are making sure that we recognise the importance of getting that right, because working people have faced higher taxes year after year under the conservatives. we face some really tough choices, really tough choices, because notjust that in—year £22 billion black hole that we faced, but the longer term direction of our country, the terrible growth that we've seen in recent years. we are determined to turn that around. and all of the work that i'm leading around skills is a crucial part of how we back businesses, how we get growth back, and how over time that allows us to invest more in our public services. to break that doom loop that you described of ever higher taxes on working people and lower growth. forgive me. i'm not asking you about the details of the budget.
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i'm asking you what labour means by a working person. now, the prime minister has given one definition. well, no. i'm asking you what you mean by a working person. a working person is someone who derives their main income from going out to work and coming out of this budget. people in that category will not see higher taxes on their pay slip. so as a cabinet minister, you're entitled to a total salary of more than £160,000. are you a working person? my income derives from myjob, and i'll pay whatever taxes are required of me. so you are a working person because your income comes from your main job and you're salaried in that way. is a small business owner whose average net profit last year might have been £13,000. that's the average. are they not a working person? look, we can go through a range of different hypotheticals about who may or may not be captured by tax measures that may or may not happen in the budget.
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you'll be able... ,you'll be able to ask when rachel sat here next weekend. you can ask her about the precise measures that she has announced. i know it's frustrating ahead of a budget that i can talk about some areas, but not all of it. what i'm clear about is when people are after the budget, when they look at their payslip that they receive, what they will see is a labour government that has prioritised making sure they do not see higher taxes, because we know for 14 years we've been going in the wrong direction. many people who run businesses may well see their taxes going up. people who are not wealthy but might maybe get their income from having a couple of rental flats that they might have scrimped and saved to buy. people who earn their income in different ways, not from being a salaried member of staff, may see their taxes going up. and i'm not asking you to tell us what is in the budget. you are asking with respect. you are asking me to speculate because that's hypothetical. next weekend, after the budget, when rachel reeves, the chancellor, is sat here. you can cover all of that. what i can say to you today is the clear direction that we have set out as a government is that we
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hold to our manifesto commitments not to increase vat, national insurance or income tax on working people and they will see that after the budget. other measures. tax and spending matters for the chancellor. i'm afraid. i'm going to try one more time. is the owner of a small business a working person? we can keep going around this loop, and i appreciate that. i appreciate your frustration. i would love to come and say, here's all the measures line by line. that's not my job. however. that's for the chancellor. she'll address viewers who are frustrated. well they haven't. i can get that. and they haven't got long to wait. the budget is on wednesday, and the chancellor can address that with you directly. but do you accept that what is running through labour's programme here, in terms of economics, that you are making a distinction between what people earn and how people earn it? that's what is running through this right now. you are shifting things so that people who are get payslips, who get salaries are treated differently to people who make their money and pay their bills another way. do you accept that at the very least? yeah.
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we are looking at how we make sure that there are fair choices across the board. that is what rachel reeves is considering. but these are tough choices, very difficult choices. and this does, i'm afraid, take us back to the inheritance of this government. £22 billion black hole. major challenges. whether it's in our hospitals, our schools, our police, you name it, challenges right across our public services. but what we have done as a government right from the start is make a different set of choices about what we prioritise. so in education, for example, the last government were presented with the teachers pay award. they got that report. they put it in a drawer. they walked away and they called an election. they left us that choice to make. we decided that our teachers deserved a pay award. we were able to do that. but that has meant different, difficult choices across government in order to do it. but that is the difference that you will see with a labour government, that your viewers will see how we prioritise health and education, and make sure that we do fix those foundations of our country, because for too long we've been held back. and the choice that this budget
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is around investment or decline and the change to the fiscal rules, what i'm setting out today around committing to our school rebuilding programme is that this labour government chooses investment. well, let's then come to yourjob. as you said, the chancellor herself will be here next week. but viewers will also notice that on a question of principle about whether a small business person is a working person, when you've said, as a member of the cabinet, you are a working person, people will notice that and perhaps remark that that's something, as you said yourself, might be frustrating to them. but let's talk about the department for education, where you're responsible for schools and also children's social care, which you alluded to. and as we did with the health secretary last week, we want to try and have a progress check on some of the things that you promised. so when will you be able to keep your promise to have 6500 more teachers in england? so we've already got that work under way. the pay award that ijust talked about, i think is a really important demonstration of how we value and respect our teaching workforce, because they are absolutely crucial to our child ren�*s life chances. so that works
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already under way. we've done the paper. so this is over the course of the parliament that we make this commitment. we started that work. the pay award is crucial, but i know for lots of teachers who'll be watching this morning, pay is important. of course it is. but it's about the wider terms and conditions and the pressures that they're under. and that's why i have asked for greater consideration to be given to more flexibility. we see lots of women in their 30s and 405, for example, leaving teaching because they find it hard to combine work and family life. but there's much more besides. it's about the wider pressures our schools are under, and that's the job of government to take action on those areas like child poverty, like mental health that actually teachers say has a big impact. to that target. i think you said there is people are going to have to wait till 2029. you said to the end of the parliament, so is that the target? people are going to have to wait till 2029 to get those 6500 extra teachers that you promised in the election? no, we've already, as i say, that work is already. the work is already begun. by when will you keep that promise? as with our other commitments in our manifesto, they are for the duration
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of the parliament. but that work is under way. it's urgent. it's absolutely urgent because we've got too many children who do not have specialist teachers at the front of their classroom. colleagues are having to step in to cover them. but where it comes to maths and science, for example, especially in communities, disadvantaged communities, they're most badly affected by those lack of subject specialists. five years. ok, this month, on a different issue, you said that the parents of kids with special educational needs should be patient. now, we know from our viewers a lot of them will actually believe that they've been pushed way beyond their patience already. there was an absolutely scathing official report this week about the state of special education. can you tell people watching who are affected by this, who really struggle when you will come forward with a big plan to sort it out? i know you've started a few things, but when can they expect to see the red meat of how you propose to fix this? so the message i would give to parents watching this morning is, i completely understand the frustration that they feel
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the system that we've inherited has been, you know, pushed to the edge by the conservatives. it's not a system that is working. it is not a system that is delivering good outcomes for our children, fit for purpose. is it fit for purpose? it's not working. it just isn't working. and what you will see in this budget is that education priorities have been protected. but what that report also made clear, the report from the national audit office was that we are spending more as a country, but we are not getting good outcomes for children with special educational needs and disabilities. so, when will you have a plan because that's what people want to know. they want to be able to hold you to what your plans actually are. when will they see your plan? i understand that people want to see action as quickly as possible. that's why i have taken steps to invest in more early speech and language support within our primary schools. why we've launched the curriculum and assessment review in terms of what our children are taught at school, but the wider system overall. of course, i want to
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work as quickly as i can to set out a plan for change and for reform. and i do urge patience because whilst i recognise that for lots of parents, the system and children, the system just isn't working at the moment. if we are to embark on a bigger programme of reform and i do believe that is essential, then i think it's also crucial that we get it right. and that's why i've already begun that process of listening to parents, to children, to staff, visited lots of schools that are already doing really great work around more specialist provision date. but you don't put a date on bigger things? 0k well some families with kids of special needs pay off their own back for their kids to go to private schools because they believe they can't get what they need in the state sector. and we know that military families are going to be protected in some way or another by private schools being charged vat. will you bring in the same protections for parents of children with special needs. so where children are educated at a private institution because of an education, health and care plan, then there will be no change there. that's a different thing.
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that's where the local council is paying on their behalf. that's where a need has been determined through that process. but that is we have to draw the line and that is where we draw the line. so for parents who feel it's their only option and they're using their own money to send their child who's struggling to a private school, they will have to pay the extra if their school charge chooses to charge the extra vat. that, of course, is the key point as to whether that is passed on. and private schools do have choices. the commitment i give to all parents of children with special educational needs and disabilities is that i absolutely understand the need for reform. i know how desperately let down they feel by a system that isn't delivering, and i will deliver a better state sector for children to make sure that there is more specialist support within mainstream settings. that is a crucial part of it, and there are brilliant examples around the country of where that can be. but you won't tell them when they're going to do it. and forgive me, i think that a lot of viewers get very frustrated when they hear politicians say,
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i take this really, really, really seriously. and then when we say, well, by when will you even give them a plan, not even make it happen, and then you won't give a date, i. get that, but this is really complex. it is a really complex area. and you know, we had a big reform under the conservatives in 2014. it hasn't worked. so i want to move at pace, but we have to get it right. i think the last thing that your viewers, parents of children with send would want was for that to not be in the right direction. when you're ready with it, come back and we can talk about it at length. i know our viewers care about this, and people have also been horrified this week by the details emerging in the case of ten year old sarah sharif, who was killed, and now there is a criminal case ongoing. and i'm not going to ask you to comment on that. but we do know that teachers had spotted bruises on her that she was known to social services. and do you agree that there has been a terrible failure in safeguarding here. so you'll appreciate i wouldn't want to comment on a specific case. i think right across the board there are big challenges when it comes to safeguarding,
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and that's why in this budget we will be doing more to put in place support around children's social care. but this cannot. for example, around fostering and kinship. but this cannot be the extent of it because like the system for children with special educational needs, the children's social care system just isn't working. and that's in a much wider sense. but where it comes to making sure schools and teachers have got what they need as well to identify what's happening, there is also a question increasingly of visibility of children. so whether we know where they are and what's happening in their lives, and that's why we will legislate for a register of children, not in school, because, you know, there are real worries there about that lack of visibility and knowing where children are and knowing whether they're safe. but these cases sadly come up time and time again. whether it's arthur labinjo—hughes one—year—old star hobson children who were terribly let down. is it your belief that social services ought to be more proactive, perhaps even to remove children from risky situations more quickly? there are difficult decisions, and of course, there are sadly many occasions where social
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workers are working on behalf of government. the state have to step in to make sure that children are protected. and sadly, as you say, we have seen and continue to see terrible, terrible cases of that kind. what i do think needs to happen though, alongside that, and there will always be cases where the state has to step in. we need to do a lot more when our children are younger, and we need to put in much more support around families, because sometimes problems do escalate and the situation does get worse. and we have seen a steady erosion of that family support services that it will take us time. you know, i would love to go faster on some of this. i absolutely would, but there is lots that we can do right now. and i think recruitment of social workers to we've got really big gaps across the country and that is a part of it. there are a couple. of other things i want to fit in, butjust very, very briefly. the previous government was considering giving schools a record of being a legal safeguarding partner, so they have more responsibility for protecting children. would you consider that? we are bringing forward a children's wellbeing bill that will look at a range of issues, and we're
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considering this. and another thing the children's commissioner for england has said recently is that england should follow scotland and wales by banning smacking, and your department said it's considering it. do you think that should happen? is it a good idea? we are considering it, but this is not an area where we intend to bring forward legislation any time soon, and i'd be keen to a view. that it's a good idea. 0verthe years, i mean, i think i'd be keen to hear from the children's commissioner and from others about how this would work. i am open minded on it. it's not something we intend to legislate on, but i think we do need to look at how we keep children safe and the measures that we'll be setting out in the children's wellbeing bill, which we're bringing forward by the end of the year, i would hope will address many of those issues around children's social care, around keeping children safe. so there's a lot that we can get on and do now. i think having a conversation about that wider issue is something that we would need to take time and care in order to get it right. 0k. and just lastly, on a completely different issue, a video emerged yesterday appearing to show one of your fellow labour mps,
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mike amesbury, shouting and swearing at a man lying on a pavement during what seems like a pretty terrible disturbance in cheshire. the police are looking into reports of an assault and a labour going to suspend the whip from him while they work out what happened. so mike amesbury has himself gone forward to the police. the police are now investigating the matter. i think that's important. they're allowed to get on and do theirjob, and there's not much more i can say at this point. but should he be suspended at least while this is sorted out? because if something like that happened, do you really want someone who's involved in that sitting on the labour benches? is it not better to to suspend him while they figure out what get to the bottom of it? mike amesbury is cooperating fully with the police. he's gone forward himself to the police. and it is right that the police now look into this matter, investigate and decide what action, if any, is required. veteran bbc radio two presenter, johnnie walker is hanging up his headphones today after nearly 60 years because of ill health. earlier this month, he announced that he was stepping down because of a lung condition that makes breathing difficult. he will be replaced on sounds
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of the 70s by bob harris, while shaun keaveny will be the new presenter of the rock show. with me is our culture reporter guy lambert. johnnie walker really has had quite the incredible broadcasting career hasn't he?. quite a glittering clear and when we can all be jealous of to be honest. his final broadcast on the bbc, 58 years johnnie walker has been broadcasting from the united kingdom, the united states, and his sound of the 70s show will be his final broadcast of his career. he announced early in october he would be hanging up 0ctober he would be hanging up his headphones due to ill health, he has a severe respiratory illness that makes it hard to breathe at times. because of that he has been broadcasting from his home in dorset for the last few years. what a fabulous career. he was one of radio caroline�*s radio clan whojoined bbc one of radio caroline�*s radio clan who joined bbc one all the
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way back in 1969. much like some of his colleagues, tony blackburn he was always one to push the boundaries and not be told what to play. so much so that his bbc career took a pause in the 19705 when he called the bay city role as the garbage. he did return to the bbc has been presenting the rock show 5aid bbc has been presenting the rock show said on radio two ever since. rock show said on radio two ever since-— rock show said on radio two ever since. final broadcast is this afternoon. _ ever since. final broadcast is this afternoon. how - ever since. final broadcast is this afternoon. how what - ever since. final broadcast is | this afternoon. how what has ever since. final broadcast is . this afternoon. how what has he got planned for that and where does the show go from here? sound5 does the show go from here? sounds of the 705 usually play5 listener requests but for this final show, johnnie walker said he would be choosing all of the music and putting all of his favourite songs on this final broadcast. i think it's often easy to underestimate some of the impact that some of these long serving di5c the impact that some of these long serving discjockeys have on their li5teners. especially long time bu5iness. on their li5teners. especially long time business. his warm friendly tone is a musical knowledge are few and far between and when he announced he was leaving the show in october, he told the bbc that
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0ctober, he told the bbc that he really does get cards from people that say that you are the friend that i have never met. his voice is in their living rooms of people for him and then it will be a sad goodbye. he has always been a huge advocate for radio as a platform and a format and he will leave at some big shoes to fill. forthe will leave at some big shoes to fill. for the future of sounds of the 70, the show must go on and bob harris will take over the reins. and bob harris will take over the reins-_ and bob harris will take over the reins. ., ~' , ., , . the reins. thank you very much for that. some _ the reins. thank you very much for that. some of _ the reins. thank you very much for that. some of the _ the reins. thank you very much for that. some of the live - for that. some of the live events taking around the world right now first to japan after the exit poll after the election fair and interesting results certainly the ldp re5ult5 certainly the ldp projected to miss out on a parliamentary majority. a significant moment there in japan. we have continued coverage of that. the relatively new prime minister called this selection ju5t
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called this selection just within days of taking over and it appears that parliamentary majority has been lost. however, this is exit poll territory at the moment and vote counting i5 territory at the moment and vote counting is under way. plenty more coverage to come from there. let's take you now to beirut, we have been covering the events in lebanon this morning. a couple of different events to bring you. we have heard via the israeli military the death of four soldiers in southern lebanon close to the border with israel. the5e close to the border with israel. these are the pictures of the skyline over beirut, continued air strikes over beirut over the last few weeks. also, i want to take you out of these live picture5 we have of the5e live picture5 we have of jerusalem, there have been events taking place in israel today all relating to the october seven attacks by hamas 0ctober seven attacks by hamas on israel. there was a ceremony
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earlier on with the president and prime minister benjamin netanyahu in attendance neta nyahu in attendance remembering netanyahu in attendance remembering the soldiers killed on october seven and indeed, soldiers killed since then. it has been a day of commemorations and events across israel. a5 commemorations and events across israel. as always, there acro55 israel. as always, there are plenty more details of all the stories we're covering here and plenty more analy5is the stories we're covering here and plenty more analysis on the website and on the bbc news app. do 5tay website and on the bbc news app. do stay with us, headlines coming up inju5t a couple of minutes' time at the top of the hour. now it is time for a look at the weather with matt. a lovely but chilly start in most areas, and while the 5un5hine continues in the south and east, cloud will bring wet and windy weather to the north and west through the day. it is these weather front5 approaching from the atlantic, notice how the isobars are squeezed together, the breeze picking up, always lighter wind5 towards the south, where the patchy cloud breaks up, lots of sunshine here. outbreaks of rain in northern ireland, heavy at times, spreading into
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western scotland. the breeze picking up here, lightest wind5 towards the south—east, were given more 5un5hine than yesterday, although temperatures are down, it should feel very pleasant. for many, a cooler day than yesterday. from the clock change last night, and earlier 5un5et tonight, around az20pm in shetland, just after five o'clock towards cornwall. and that means it is going to be dark pretty soon, as we head into the evening, and with it cloud increasing, outbreaks of rain and drizzle, spreading through most parts tonight. extensive cloud means that afteran initial dip in temperature, down into single figures for many, it will lift up to 10—13 for most into the monday morning commute. into monday, a tangle of weather front5 across the country will mean it will be a rather grey, murky and damp start to monday for the vast majority. some heavy bursts of rain around, the highest totals will be
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on the hills in the west, quite mi5ty around the hills and coa5t5. not rain everywhere or all day long, there will be drier moments, even a few breaks in the cloud. le55 favoured for that will be the north—east of scotland, and shetland. 0ne one or two spots to the east of the hills. if you do get sunshine, you will notice it is quite warm. another mild day on tuesday, not as windy, but lots of cloud and dampness to begin with, patchy light rain and drizzle clearing from the south—east corner, optimi5tic that tuesday will have a chance of sunny outbreaks developing, probably the warmest day of the week. highs ofaround highs of around 13 to 17 degrees. high pressure across the south starts to build in, dominating through much of the coming week, weather front5 bringing outbreaks of rain to the north of scotland and windy conditions later. elsewhere, variable amounts of cloud, some sunny 5pells, colder later in the week with the return of overnight fro5t.
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live from london this is bbc news. japan's ruling coalition new5. japan's ruling coalition is projected to miss a ruling majority a5 is projected to miss a ruling majority as polls shut in a snap general election. i am in
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tokyo a5 snap general election. i am in tokyo as we piece together what these exit polls mean for the the5e exit polls mean for the ruling liberal democratic party and the prime minister made a gamble on this election. reports of intimidation at the ballot box as counting near5 ballot box as counting nears completion in georgia. international election monitors flat concerns over voter fraud following the victory from the ruling party. israel's prime minister has described saturday's 5trike5 on iran as a precise and powerful claiming its goals were achieved. meanwhile, iran's leader says that the attack should not be minimised. dozens of people are injured of in israel after a truck goe5 injured of in israel after a truck goes into people at a bus stop in tel aviv. police are treating it as a terror —related incident. hello. we start in tokyo, where we've received the exit polls
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from japan's snap election, and they're telling us

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