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unemployment half economy in the g7, unemployment half of what it was when we took over from labour, and in 17 weeks, they have given us german levels of tax, french labour laws and it damaging assault on our future and opportunities for young people. that was the shadow chancellor. joining me now is daniel kebede, general secretary, national education union what were you hoping for? it what were you hoping for? it is a welcome first _ what were you hoping for? it is a welcome first step, _ what were you hoping for? it is a welcome first step, we _ what were you hoping for? it is a welcome first step, we have - what were you hoping for? it is a welcome first step, we have to l welcome first step, we have to recognise the skill of the crisis that exists in education at the moment, recruitment and retention crisis, crisis and the school estate, so while it is the welcome first step of cash investment, there is more to do. first step of cash investment, there is more to da— is more to do. there is money for extra teachers, _ is more to do. there is money for extra teachers, for _ is more to do. there is money for extra teachers, for school - is more to do. there is money for. extra teachers, for school building, there was also money for special needs, that is absolutely vital given the crisis in that area. bess
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given the crisis in that area. beso £1 billion extra _ given the crisis in that area. beso £1 billion extra for— given the crisis in that area. beso £1 billion extra for special- given the crisis in that area. bfr £1 billion extra for special needs. we have to recognise that we need a £4.6 billion cash injection so it's still full short. we saw 1.3 billion for the mainstream schools budget, but we need to have 3.2 billion to get us back to 2010 levels of spending power. good first steps but much more to do. what spending power. good first steps but much more to do.— spending power. good first steps but much more to do. what about the vat on rivate much more to do. what about the vat on private schools? _ much more to do. what about the vat on private schools? that _ much more to do. what about the vat on private schools? that was - much more to do. what about the vat on private schools? that was a - on private schools? that was a manifesto commitment. the government is pressing ahead, making that announcement, it comes injanuary. making the point that 94% of pupils and children are in state schools. t and children are in state schools. 1 think most people would and children are in state schools. u think most people would recognise their private education isn't nonessential, we have got real concerns about schools employers using this as an excuse to erode terms and conditions of our members who work in the schools, we have had unprecedented strike action and independent schools due to the
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removal of the teachers pension, we do not want to see employer to use this as an excuse to go further. ht this as an excuse to go further. if there was something he would have liked to have heard, what would it be? a, liked to have heard, what would it be? ~ ., ., , liked to have heard, what would it be? a, ., , ., liked to have heard, what would it be? ., , ., be? more money in education. more investment — be? more money in education. more investment. it _ be? more money in education. more investment. it is _ be? more money in education. more investment. it is a _ be? more money in education. more investment. it is a welcome - be? more money in education. more investment. it is a welcome first - investment. it is a welcome first step, but much more today. thank you very much- _ step, but much more today. thank you very much- the — step, but much more today. thank you very much. the overall— step, but much more today. thank you very much. the overall bill— step, but much more today. thank you very much. the overall bill for- very much. the overall bill for attacks, £40 billion, a record when it comes to tax—raising. we have had details about housing, money heading in that direction. joining me now is rhys moore, executive director, national housing federation lots to welcome today on housing. in particular, on social housing which has really been an area that has been neglected for too long. 0ur been neglected for too long. our members are housing associations, not—for—profit, landlords, we build
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most of the social housing in the country, we were facing a real cliff edgein country, we were facing a real cliff edge in terms of delivery of new social homes. the funding for new social homes. the funding for new social housing, the affordable homes programme had dried up. we have been encouraging the chance to take action on this, really pleased to see today £500 million of new money into the affordable homes programme. it is emergency funding but it will make a real difference.— make a real difference. everyone lookin: to make a real difference. everyone looking to the — make a real difference. everyone looking to the spring _ make a real difference. everyone looking to the spring and - make a real difference. everyone looking to the spring and the - looking to the spring and the spending assessment and review and a further concentration on housing. in terms of, does the need to be a review on social housing in terms of the amount that is actually sold off? it way outstrips the amount that has been built. tote off? it way outstrips the amount that has been built.— off? it way outstrips the amount that has been built. we were really leased to that has been built. we were really pleased to see _ that has been built. we were really pleased to see reform _ that has been built. we were really pleased to see reform is _ that has been built. we were really pleased to see reform is to - that has been built. we were really pleased to see reform is to rachel| pleased to see reform is to rachel barry, we were in a ludicrous situation, we are building social housing, last year, about 5000 new social homes, and in the same period, we'd sold off through rachel by about 4200 homes. we are in this
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situation it's terrible for the 4 million people who are desperately in need of a social home. good to see reform on right to buy and the spring will be the critical period when we hope to see a longer term plan on housing, long—term investment and a bigger affordable homes programme.— investment and a bigger affordable homes programme. labour is promising 1.5 million homes programme. labour is promising 1-5 million new — homes programme. labour is promising 1.5 million new homes _ homes programme. labour is promising 1.5 million new homes to _ homes programme. labour is promising 1.5 million new homes to be _ homes programme. labour is promising 1.5 million new homes to be built. - 1.5 million new homes to be built. it is achievable? tote 1.5 million new homes to be built. it is achievable?— it is achievable? we are starting from a fragile — it is achievable? we are starting from a fragile place. _ it is achievable? we are starting from a fragile place. new - it is achievable? we are starting| from a fragile place. new homes it is achievable? we are starting - from a fragile place. new homes this year, we are looking to deliver about 160,000. that is half of where we need to be in terms of new delivery. it is good to have a big target, 1.5 million homes is the right target, but it's uphill. 0ur right target, but it's uphill. our members are ready to play their part, were ready to deliver one quarter of new homes of the right package. it is about the long—term stable support.
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package. it is about the long-term stable swoon-— stable support. what is the blockage? _ stable support. what is the blockage? planning? - stable support. what is the - blockage? planning? developers, stable support. what is the _ blockage? planning? developers, what is the delay part of all of theirs? 0n social housing, it is a mixture of lack of funding for new social homes, funding has been cut by 60% or more in terms of funding for new social housing, we need to see a bigger affordable homes programme. and alongside that, we need more stability in terms of long—term funding, rentand stability in terms of long—term funding, rent and the policy environment. if you get all of that right, that allows you to deliver much more. there was one gap today that we were hoping to see more, building safety, not about new homes, about the existing stock of homes, about the existing stock of homes, social tenants, they cannot access public funds to make their home safe. post grenfell, that is a really bad situation to be in his country. there were some noise to say we might see some action but we hope to see more in the spring. thank you for taking us through that important area. let's talk about
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transport. the infrastructure plans system designed around transport, energy, hospitals, schools. yesterday we had the news about the bus fare cap, the cap stays but it raises from 2p to £3. joining me now is... michael solomon—williams, head of campaign, campaign for better transport there is some good news, east—west rail is good, funding for trams in leeds, bradford, sheffield and west midlands extension, this is good. ultimately, fugitive frozen again, and the 5p cut in fuel duty could have a £4.2 billion, quadrupling buses, to see that meditate when bus players have got up and rail fares have gone up and rail cards, that sending the wrong signals. you would
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have liked to — sending the wrong signals. you would have liked to have _ sending the wrong signals. you would have liked to have seen _ sending the wrong signals. you would have liked to have seen the _ sending the wrong signals. you would have liked to have seen the fugitive . have liked to have seen the fugitive frozen and extended, you would like to see it gone. —— fuel duty. and the freeze is only for one year. there was discussion about something being done for one more year, £22 billion, freezing fuel duty has lost the treasury £133 billion. that is astonishing. something will have to be done very soon. find astonishing. something will have to be done very soon.— astonishing. something will have to be done very soon. and the bus fare ca . be done very soon. and the bus fare ca- risin: be done very soon. and the bus fare cap rising to — be done very soon. and the bus fare cap rising to three _ be done very soon. and the bus fare cap rising to three times _ be done very soon. and the bus fare cap rising to three times in - be done very soon. and the bus fare cap rising to three times in real - cap rising to three times in real terms on ordinary people. that will hurt a lot of— terms on ordinary people. that will hurt a lot of people _ terms on ordinary people. that will hurt a lot of people hard. _ terms on ordinary people. that will hurt a lot of people hard. we - terms on ordinary people. that will hurt a lot of people hard. we have | hurt a lot of people hard. we have campaigned successfully for the two point cap in the first instance, to raise it to three will hit people hard. bus fares are only £350 million a year, you could raise that money easily. we are seeing the wrong signals being sent on the cost of public transport that needs to be attractive and is affordable.
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support for the electric electric car industry, air passenger duty. hgppy car industry, air passenger duty. happy to see something done on apd, it is very small, flights to california for private jets, a 50% raise, 400 and 50p, going to notice, apd and domestic sites, good to see that happening, but there is a climate emergency, don't forget. thank you very much forjoining us. let's end this hour by talking about the big winner. that was the nhs, health, because £22 billion in day—to—day spending heading towards the nhs over the next couple of years. let's bring in... tim bring in... gardner, assistant director of policy, the health foundation is it more than you expected or about right? we: is it more than you expected or about right?—
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about right? it's a very difficult fiscal situation, _ about right? it's a very difficult fiscal situation, that _ about right? it's a very difficult| fiscal situation, that represents about right? it's a very difficult i fiscal situation, that represents a really good settlement for the nhs. there is a substantial boost to day—to—day spending. we are particularly pleased to see the increase in capital investment which has been where the nhs has been held back for a long time. if the government is going to meet its ambitious to create an nhs fit for the future, we earn going to need to see sustained investment through the spending review next year. this is going to be a five or ten year project. going to be a five or ten year ro'ect. �* , going to be a five or ten year ro'ect. v . ~ going to be a five or ten year ro'ect. �*, ., ~ ., ., , pro'ect. let's talk about reforms in a project. let's talk about reforms in a moment. — project. let's talk about reforms in a moment, essential, _ project. let's talk about reforms in a moment, essential, but- project. let's talk about reforms in a moment, essential, but let's - project. let's talk about reforms in | a moment, essential, but let's give our viewers an idea, sounds like a huge amount of money, £22 billion, which does that leave the nhs? does it keep them in the same place? is it keep them in the same place? is it a step change moving forward? this money is broadly in line on our projections at what the nhs needs to keep doing what it does and to deliver improvements to patient care as well. to provide an example, the
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