kirstie allsopp said that rachel reeves had beep farmers. i won't say the words that are used. even that it is a turning point in british history, british agriculture, british society. somebody described it as a closure of the mines moment for uk agriculture. in the same way it affected the mining towns for generations. it's as big as that. get in touch. summer may say this is alarmist and summer may say this is alarmist and you can plan and dodge this? farming you can plan and dodge this? farming

families are forced _ families are forced _ you can plan and dodge this? farming families are forced into _ you can plan and dodge this? farming families are forced into having - families are forced into having these discussions, and then also try you can plan and dodge this? farming families are forced into _ you can plan and dodge this? farming families are forced into having - families are forced into having these discussions, and then also try to scramble and do the planning. it to scramble and do the planning. it is the traditional is small family is the traditional is small family farms, you know, it is a family farms, you know, it is a family farm. my son comes out farming with farm. my son comes out farming with us every day. you do it as a family, us every day. you do it as a family, i do it with my husband. it's the i do it with my husband. it's the traditionalism of it. it's the traditionalism of it. it's the traditionalism of it. it's the traditionalism of it. it's the traditionalism of it. it's the traditionalism of how the countryside runs. it disconnects traditionalism of it. it's the traditionalism of how the countryside runs. it disconnects from the general public. if you are from the general public. if you are not in the countryside, a lot of not in the countryside, a lot of people have no clue as to how their people have no clue as to how their food is produced. if farms are going food is produced. if farms are going to become broken up, land will not to become broken up, land will not be managed properly. what does that be managed properly. what does that look like for future land look like for future land management? look like forfuture land management? look like forfuture land management? the government are trying to push all the environmental management? the government

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look like forfuture land management? the gov from ent look like forfuture land management? the gov from america. we are getting rubbish from america. if the government says only a small and the people have a real issue, i sympathise with the people who really see themselves as custodians of the land, i certainly know a fair number of farmers who weren't like that. but there were those that were. i do not understand this special case. the amounts we are talking about our big money. again, it seems like an argument over the rich, why am i having to pay my dues, again... ijust don't understand. the end of farming as we know it? every argument about an industry which struggles is the same, isn't it?— industry which struggles is the same, isn't it? rebecca, did you want to explain? _ same, isn't it? rebecca, did you want to explain? sam _ same, isn't it? rebecca, did you want to explain? sam is - same, isn't it? rebecca, did you want to explain? sam is still - same, isn't it? rebecca, did you i want to explain? sam is still there.

i've been listening to the various people _ i've been listening to the various people who got on the line as well, i agree _ people who got on the line as well, i agree with everyone, even the last callen _ i agree with everyone, even the last caller. . , , , caller. that is impossible! physically _ caller. that is impossible! physically and _ caller. that is impossible! - physically and psychologically impossible. we physically and psychologically impossible-— physically and psychologically imossible. . ., , physically and psychologically imossible. . ., impossible. we all have points to contribute- _ impossible. we all have points to contribute. one _ impossible. we all have points to contribute. one of _ impossible. we all have points to contribute. one of the _ impossible. we all have points to contribute. one of the things - impossible. we all have points to contribute. one of the things i i contribute. one of the things i would — contribute. one of the things i would like to ask rachel reeves, what _ would like to ask rachel reeves, what are — would like to ask rachel reeves, what are you trying to achieve? at the end _ what are you trying to achieve? at the end of— what are you trying to achieve? at the end of the day, do we want corporations who produce our food or family— corporations who produce our food or family farms? is corporations who produce our food or family farms?— family farms? is that what it will lead to? conglomeration? - family farms? is that what it will i lead to? conglomeration? exactly. i'd like to know _ lead to? conglomeration? exactly. i'd like to know what _ lead to? conglomeration? exactly. i'd like to know what they are - i'd like to know what they are trying — i'd like to know what they are trying to _ i'd like to know what they are trying to achieve in terms of land market — trying to achieve in terms of land market if— trying to achieve in terms of land market. if you look at the wider sense _ market. if you look at the wider sense of— market. if you look at the wider sense of what it will do, we have already— sense of what it will do, we have already seen quite drastic changes after the _ already seen quite drastic changes after the budget. already seen quite drastic changes afterthe budget. i already seen quite drastic changes after the budget. i really want to know _ after the budget. i really want to know what they're trying to achieve. at the _ know what they're trying to achieve. at the minute, they are opening the

land market up to investors that are going _ land market up to investors that are going to _ land market up to investors that are going to create lovely re—wild it parks _ going to create lovely re—wild it parks for — going to create lovely re—wild it parks for people to visit on holiday _ parks for people to visit on holiday. brilliant, well done. i don't— holiday. brilliant, well done. i don't see— holiday. brilliant, well done. i don't see how we are helping farmers produce _ don't see how we are helping farmers produce food. don't see how we are helping farmers produce food-— produce food. david in bristol. you have heard — produce food. david in bristol. you have heard rebecca, _ produce food. david in bristol. you have heard rebecca, sam - produce food. david in bristol. you have heard rebecca, sam and - produce food. david in bristol. you - have heard rebecca, sam and spencer, what do you think? goad have heard rebecca, sam and spencer, what do you think?— what do you think? good morning, nic . to what do you think? good morning, nicky- to start _ what do you think? good morning, nicky. to start off— what do you think? good morning, nicky. to start off with, _ what do you think? good morning, nicky. to start off with, my - what do you think? good morning, nicky. to start off with, my father| nicky. to start off with, my father worked in a factory all his life. my mother died when she was nine, and so we must have had some sort of payout for her death. so when my father died in his 80s, i paid over £100,000 in inheritance tax. that is fine with me, that is what you pay. and i come from a working—class background. apart from hill farmers,

i don't think i'd ever met a poor farmer in my life. many of them send their children to boarding schools, private education. there are businesses selling overpriced businesses selling overpriced business and cheese, making millions of pounds from that. you drive through the cotswolds, devon, dorset, it is hardly deprivation. a lot of farms don't look after the land. i walk to the countryside and there are tractors, six, seven, eight disused cars, oil spilling everywhere, plastic. a lot of farmers don't look after the land. where were the farmers when the mines closed? nowhere. they were out there, ignoring what was going on around them. and then finally, look what happened when tony blair was elected. the farmers came out on the streets, they blocked the roads,

protesting against so—called fuel, when it was just a political gesture because they didn't like the banning of fox hunting. in a way, i think labour are just of fox hunting. in a way, i think labour arejust getting of fox hunting. in a way, i think labour are just getting revenge of fox hunting. in a way, i think labour arejust getting revenge now. they bided their time, 11 or 12 years, and now farmers are getting hit, and my heart is bleeding! laughter well, who wants to respond? i will. i think well, who wants to respond? i will. i think that — well, who wants to respond? i will. i think that labour _ well, who wants to respond? i will. i think that labour are _ well, who wants to respond? i will. i think that labour are definitely - i think that labour are definitely getting — i think that labour are definitely getting their revenge on the farmers. _ getting their revenge on the farmers, but i think what the general— farmers, but i think what the general public may be missing the point _ general public may be missing the point of. _ general public may be missing the point of, at what cost to food production and food security. it isn't _ production and food security. it isn'tiust— production and food security. it isn'tjust potential production and food security. it isn't just potential revenge, supposedly, according to david, two farmers— supposedly, according to david, two farmers from ten or 15 years ago. this is— farmers from ten or 15 years ago. this is going to have a nationwide

impact _ this is going to have a nationwide impact on — this is going to have a nationwide impact on food security. we import most of our — impact on food security. we import most of our food. _ impact on food security. we import most of our food. but _ impact on food security. we import most of our food. but the - impact on food security. we import most of our food. but the food - impact on food security. we importj most of our food. but the food that we do produce isjust sold in most of our food. but the food that we do produce is just sold in little farmers markets at exaggerated prices. people in the cities can't afford that. they have to buy cheap food from aldi and lidl, which is imported. food from aldi and lidl, which is im orted. ., , food from aldi and lidl, which is imorted. . , food from aldi and lidl, which is imported-_ l - food from aldi and lidl, which is imported-_ i am i imported. can i “ump in? i am sta in: imported. can i “ump in? i am staying out _ imported. can i “ump in? i am staying out of— imported. can ijump in? i am staying out of this _ imported. can ijump in? i am staying out of this one! - imported. can ijump in? i am staying out of this one! i - staying out of this one! i completely agree with sam, the comment— completely agree with sam, the comment about farm shops, how many ways comment about farm shops, how many ways do— comment about farm shops, how many ways do you _ comment about farm shops, how many ways do you want me to pay tax? 30 ways do you want me to pay tax? sc pay ways do you want me to pay tax? pay proper tax ways do you want me to pay tax? sr pay proper tax on it, you're making millions from those.— pay proper tax on it, you're making millions from those._ i l millions from those. hang on... i think this — millions from those. hang on... i think this is _ millions from those. hang on... i think this is useful, _ millions from those. hang on... i think this is useful, though. - think this is useful, though. because it distills... pare think this is useful, though. because it distills. .. are you privately _ because it distills. .. are you privately educated _ because it distills. .. are you privately educated as - because it distills. .. are you privately educated as well? | because it distills. .. are you i privately educated as well? you don't sound like you have much of a rural accident. don't sound like you have much of a ruralaccident. i don't sound like you have much of a rural accident.— rural accident. i would like to come back on that- _

rural accident. i would like to come back on that. what _ rural accident. i would like to come back on that. what i _ rural accident. i would like to come back on that. what i am _ rural accident. i would like to come back on that. what i am saying i rural accident. i would like to come back on that. what i am saying is l back on that. what i am saying is that it is useful, _ back on that. what i am saying is that it is useful, it _ back on that. what i am saying is that it is useful, it portrays i back on that. what i am saying is that it is useful, it portrays a i that it is useful, it portrays a view that some people have. you know that there are people who think exactly this. was it you, sam, who wanted to come back?— exactly this. was it you, sam, who l wanted to come back?- it's wanted to come back? rebecca. it's uuite aood wanted to come back? rebecca. it's quite good to _ wanted to come back? rebecca. it's quite good to expose _ wanted to come back? rebecca. it's quite good to expose and _ wanted to come back? rebecca. it's quite good to expose and explore, i quite good to expose and explore, and examined, and counter these views. rebecca?— views. rebecca? absolutely. if an bod views. rebecca? absolutely. if anybody would _ views. rebecca? absolutely. if anybody would like _ views. rebecca? absolutely. if anybody would like to - views. rebecca? absolutely. if anybody would like to come i views. rebecca? absolutely. if| anybody would like to come and views. rebecca? absolutely. if- anybody would like to come and visit us and _ anybody would like to come and visit us and say— anybody would like to come and visit us and say how much we are not making, — us and say how much we are not making, feel free. we have politicians who are meant to be intelligent people, and i think the comment— intelligent people, and i think the comment that this is revenge on what happened _ comment that this is revenge on what happened when tony blair was in power— happened when tony blair was in power is — happened when tony blair was in power is quite interesting, possibly true, _ power is quite interesting, possibly true, not very intelligent as a response. _ true, not very intelligent as a response, is it? did true, not very intelligent as a response, is it?— true, not very intelligent as a response, is it? true, not very intelligent as a resonse, is it? , , , response, is it? did you support the action of the — response, is it? did you support the action of the countryside _ response, is it? did you support the action of the countryside alliance? | action of the countryside alliance? do you mind... let action of the countryside alliance? do you mind- - -_ do you mind... let rebecca finish, let's do you mind... let rebecca finish, lets keep — do you mind... let rebecca finish, lets keep it _ do you mind... let rebecca finish, let's keep it away _ do you mind... let rebecca finish, let's keep it away from _ do you mind... let rebecca finish, let's keep it away from fox - do you mind... let rebecca finish, | let's keep it away from fox hunting. it is all linked. i

let's keep it away from fox hunting. n is all linked.— let's keep it away from fox hunting. it is all linked.— it is all linked. i am all for a fox huntin: it is all linked. i am all for a fox hunting debate, _ it is all linked. i am all for a fox hunting debate, believe - it is all linked. i am all for a fox hunting debate, believe you i it is all linked. i am all for a fox. hunting debate, believe you me, it is all linked. i am all for a fox i hunting debate, believe you me, you know i am, but not here and not now. rebecca? it know i am, but not here and not now. rebecca? , . ~ know i am, but not here and not now. rebecca?_ this - know i am, but not here and not now. rebecca?_ this is i rebecca? it is all linked. this is perception _ rebecca? it is all linked. this is perception about _ rebecca? it is all linked. this is perception about the _ rebecca? it is all linked. this is l perception about the countryside. rebecca? it is all linked. this is i perception about the countryside. i tell you what i'm going to do, everyone, stay there, i am not pulling the fade on everyone, we are just going to take a little break at the break is going to be tom in rattles done in suffolk. come and say exactly what you want to say to the nation. good morning. goad the nation. good morning. good mornin: , the nation. good morning. good morning. nicky- _ the nation. good morning. good morning, nicky. well, _ the nation. good morning. good morning, nicky. well, first i the nation. good morning. good morning, nicky. well, first of i the nation. good morning. good morning, nicky. well, first of all i would _ morning, nicky. well, first of all i would like — morning, nicky. well, first of all i would like to _ morning, nicky. well, first of all i would like to respond _ morning, nicky. well, first of all i would like to respond to - morning, nicky. well, first of all i would like to respond to the i morning, nicky. well, first of all i would like to respond to the last i would like to respond to the last couple _ would like to respond to the last couple of — would like to respond to the last couple of callers _ would like to respond to the last couple of callers i _ would like to respond to the last couple of callers i was _ would like to respond to the last couple of callers i was listeningl would like to respond to the last i couple of callers i was listening to as i couple of callers i was listening to as i was— couple of callers i was listening to as i was coming _ couple of callers i was listening to as i was coming on. _ couple of callers i was listening to as i was coming on. the _ couple of callers i was listening toi as i was coming on. the disconnect or the _ as i was coming on. the disconnect or the lack— as i was coming on. the disconnect or the lack of— as i was coming on. the disconnect or the lack of understanding i as i was coming on. the disconnect or the lack of understanding of- as i was coming on. the disconnectj or the lack of understanding of how the food _ or the lack of understanding of how the food system _ or the lack of understanding of how the food system works, _ or the lack of understanding of how the food system works, the - or the lack of understanding of howl the food system works, the problem really _ the food system works, the problem really isn't _ the food system works, the problem really isn't the — the food system works, the problem really isn't the inheritance _ the food system works, the problem really isn't the inheritance tax, i really isn't the inheritance tax, the problem _ really isn't the inheritance tax, the problem is _ really isn't the inheritance tax, the problem is the _ really isn't the inheritance tax, the problem is the poor- really isn't the inheritance tax, | the problem is the poor returns really isn't the inheritance tax, i the problem is the poor returns on farmin9~ _ the problem is the poor returns on farmin9~ if— the problem is the poor returns on farmin9~ ifyou— the problem is the poor returns on farmin9~ if you go— the problem is the poor returns on farming. if you go back— the problem is the poor returns on farming. if you go back 100 i the problem is the poor returns on farming. if you go back 100 years, j farming. if you go back 100 years, for instance. — farming. if you go back 100 years, for instance, to _ farming. if you go back 100 years, for instance, to take _ farming. if you go back 100 years, for instance, to take the _ farming. if you go back 100 years, for instance, to take the grain i for instance, to take the grain price — for instance, to take the grain price and _ for instance, to take the grain price and adjust _ for instance, to take the grain price and adjust it _ for instance, to take the grain price and adjust it for - 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tonne of wheat should _ price and adjust it for inflation, a tonne of wheat should be i price and adjust it for inflation, a tonne of wheat should be about. price and adjust it for inflation, a i tonne of wheat should be about £700 per tonne _ tonne of wheat should be about £700 per tonne and — tonne of wheat should be about £700 per tonne. and now— tonne of wheat should be about £700 per tonne. and now it _ tonne of wheat should be about £700 per tonne. and now it is _ tonne of wheat should be about £700 per tonne. and now it is worth- per tonne. and now it is worth £175 per tonne. and now it is worth £175 per tonne — per tonne. and now it is worth £175 per tonne this _ per tonne. and now it is worth £175 per tonne. this is _ per tonne. and now it is worth £175 per tonne. this is the _ per tonne. and now it is worth £175 per tonne. this is the issue. i per tonne. and now it is worth £175 per tonne. this is the issue. food i per tonne. this is the issue. food is so _ per tonne. this is the issue. food is so undervalued. _ per tonne. this is the issue. food is so undervalued. that _ per tonne. this is the issue. food is so undervalued. that is - per tonne. this is the issue. food is so undervalued. that is a i is so undervalued. that is a political— is so undervalued. that is a political point, _ is so undervalued. that is a political point, no - is so undervalued. that is a i political point, no government is so undervalued. that is a - political point, no government wants to put— political point, no government wants to put up— political point, no government wants to put up food — political point, no government wants to put up food prices, _ political point, no government wants to put up food prices, it _ political point, no government wants to put up food prices, it is _ to put up food prices, it is political— to put up food prices, it is political suicide. - to put up food prices, it is political suicide. but- to put up food prices, it is political suicide. but we i to put up food prices, it is i political suicide. but we have to adapt _ political suicide. but we have to adapt and — politic