here in the uk, a headlines here in the uk, a teenager has beenjailed headlines here in the uk, a teenager has been jailed for at least 17 years for stabbing his girlfriend 50—year—old woman who more than 200 people woman who are now known to have died to death. in catastrophic flash floods in spain. welcome back to verified live. we start in the us with four days left before the presidential election. donald trump and kamala harris are criss crossing the remains as tight as ever. the republican and democratic presidential candidates have both headed west to the battleground states of nevada and arizona. 65 million people have already cast their vote, beating the 2020 turnout record but it is the case where undecided writers back as well as getting their base voters out which would be absolutely critical. so let us start this hour out

with this report. don't be afraid, the election result cannot be that scary, or can it? who i think will win — it is probably going to be trump. i hope harris. i have to say very close, trump. ready for it to be over. kamala harris came to arizona to reach latino voters particularly who make up a quarter of the electorate here and she continues to characterise the race is a fight for women's rights. donald trump is not done. did everybody hear what he said yesterday? that he will do what he wants, quote, whether the women like it or not. democrats hope kamala harris will have the edge with female voters that could prove to be the winning margin. i am 75 and have never gone to a rally, never being proactive as far as the race, and i would do anything here, so in my life, i see a woman leading our country.

i have this gut feeling that she is going to surprise us all and take more votes than we realise. donald j trump. donald trump, who is trying to win back arizona appeared on stage interviewed by a controversial former fox news host tucker carlson. we do have an enemy from within, we have very bad people and they are also dangerous, they would like to take down our country, they would like our country to be a nice communist country or a fascist in any way they can, and we have to be careful of that. immigration and the economy continue to be top issues for his supporters. i like donald trump, i liked him the first time around. he is authentic, real. i want my borders closed. i did not have to go to a rally to know who i needed to vote for. the grocery store and gas prices tell me all i need to know. he can move a room. people will say snarky- comments and he can feed

it right back to them, chew it up and spit it| out right back at them. after months of campaigning there is nowjust days to go until voters choose which character to cast their vote for. if the polls are correct it is shaping up as the closest presidential race in modern history and the number of people voting early has broken records. as each side puts the finishing touches to campaigns they know battleground states like this could throw up nasty surprises. let's speak live on the programme to geoffrey, litigation lawyer. he is professor as to what washington couege professor as to what washington college of law. thank you so much for being here on the programme. their suggestion is that when the fighting stops, the lawyer start. if that's what you are anticipating, five

days' time. what you are anticipating, five days' time-— days' time. i'm deftly anticipating _ days' time. i'm deftly anticipating if - days' time. i'm deftly anticipating if donald | days' time. i'm deftly - anticipating if donald trump loses because back in 2020 is what — what he did is fire over 52 lawsuits and lost basically a 99.9% of them and challenge the election. to this day, he still maintains that he did not use it. so we anticipated that he would do the same thing if he would do the same thing if he does not prevail in the election, i think if common house does not prevail, you would see a lot lawsuits files. both sides are beefing up their legal department in anticipation of this. i was reading from the democracy dockets, saying that already 201 voting and election cases are pending in a0 states. a lot of this legal challenge work setting the field, rolling the pitch, it has already started? it has and it is an interesting

dynamic because if donald trump thought he was a winning based on these polls which essentially show a dead heat, he might not file the lawsuits yet but both pundits have the both internal polls and it is possible that his internal polls show a concern as to whether he will win or not and so, he has already started filing lawsuits right now i think part of it is that he is showing his base that if he loses the vote that he did not release but there was cheating involved. . , ., ., involved. that is a worry? would have _ involved. that is a worry? would have anxiety - involved. that is a worry? would have anxiety in - involved. that is a worry? would have anxiety in thej involved. that is a worry? i would have anxiety in the us about what happens after it? i think after election day, it would take at least two to four month days before everybody knows who won and even if we knows who won and even if we know who won, they will still be litigation which could end “p be litigation which could end up in the supreme court is —— it would take at least two to

four days. last time, it was not clear what united states supreme court would do this time around but donald trump will certainly try if in fact, he does not prevail in the right ——. he does not prevail in the right ---_ he does not prevail in the riuht--. ., right --. on that point, you reference — right --. on that point, you reference 2020. _ right --. on that point, you reference 2020. so - right --. on that point, you reference 2020. so many . right --. on that point, you . reference 2020. so many court cases were brought and donald trump just about every significant trumpjust about every significant one. what is trump just about every significant one. what is the likely timeline, if we get a repetition of that, how long does it take potentially to get to the supreme court deciding whether or not to actually pick up whether or not to actually pick up any of the cases? last time around, up any of the cases? last time around. the — up any of the cases? last time around, the timeline _ up any of the cases? last time around, the timeline went - up any of the cases? last time around, the timeline went all. around, the timeline went all the way to the beginning of january where the supreme court would meet x of —— expeditiously and it was not clear what issues they would take after serve it is called. they will take the case and how it would rule, but it would be pretty quick. we it would rule, but it would be pretty quick-— it would rule, but it would be pretty quick. we have to leave it there but —

pretty quick. we have to leave it there but a _ pretty quick. we have to leave it there but a thank _ pretty quick. we have to leave it there but a thank you - pretty quick. we have to leave it there but a thank you so - it there but a thank you so much forjoining us live on today's rarefied live. let's continue with this, let us speak to scarlett�*s maguire, director of the polling groupjl partners. thank you forjoining the programme. whatever your most recent�*s be shown? it is recent's be shown? it is showing _ recent's be shown? it is showing that _ recent's be shown? it is showing that it - recent's be shown? it is showing that it is - recent's be shown? it is| showing that it is leaning towards donald trump. tragically, he done a poll in pennsylvania recently which has shown it to be a complete dead heat now. a lot of the attention has been a swing states what you so and most people think that pennsylvania has approximately were sent it will be most important of the swing states. it will be most important of the swing states.— swing states. it is very exciting- _ swing states. it is very exciting. following - swing states. it is very exciting. following on| swing states. it is very - exciting. following on from this conversation we willjust happen, it is very interesting because donald trump has been repeatedly talking about cheating going on in pennsylvania so it is interesting listening to what our previous gas has a say in what you have been saying. what do anticipating being the key

demographic here that both candidates should be focusing on or are focusing on? that candidates should be focusing on or are focusing on?- on or are focusing on? that is a fantastic — on or are focusing on? that is a fantastic question. - on or are focusing on? that is a fantastic question. by - on or are focusing on? that is a fantastic question. by the l a fantastic question. by the this will be wanting to make sure that they have bases coming out in full force to support them. a lot of talk about republicans coming out to support low propensity does not propensity voters. of the harris campaign, they are worried about losing the traditional base, like young and back rages, hispanic voters. they are reliant on arenas coming —— women coming out. especially against donald trump on the issue of abortion. theirfemale trump on the issue of abortion. their female demographic because as what you early yesterday, one of the ads against donald trump but focusing on republicans whose wives quietly in the polling booth and vote differently to what there has business might be so it has got to that level of advertising is how these campaigns there in the states. what should be read into the

name —— the numbers when it comes to early voting is there something that we can read into that? i something that we can read into that? ., ., ., that? i would warn anyone off into reading _ that? i would warn anyone off into reading too _ that? i would warn anyone off into reading too much - that? i would warn anyone off into reading too much into - into reading too much into early voter. there is a huge amount of data but you can see you anything you want to see if you anything you want to see if you look at it. it normally does not have that much about what happens in the election date for that it is a very different election this time round and it is not an animal, a lot of people has shown. and i would want people off of reading too much into it. another thing, there has been volley in america atjust the level of anxiety amongst voters about what happens once we get past the robert the fifth, what are you finding peoples nemesis is about what potentially could happen —— november the 5th? i happen —— novemberthe 5th? i think there is a human mother was dying to get amongst posters as well. i think —— but i think there's a huge amount of anxiety amongst posters as

well. if the race is looking at is tight as it currently shows to be in the polls, pennsylvania do not count their votes straightaway or there quite slow at doing it. the polls close an item is a normal you can wait a few days and i think there's a bit of a danger zone if pez again is taking a long time to count if it all comes down to pennsylvania if ten ——... comes down to pennsylvania if ten - -_ comes down to pennsylvania if ten --... ., ~ . ten --... thank you so much. it was great _ ten --... thank you so much. it was great talking _ ten --... thank you so much. it was great talking to _ ten --... thank you so much. it was great talking to you. - ten --... thank you so much. it was great talking to you. we i was great talking to you. we hear more about all the polling and head to the bbc news website with all the headers that make national polls. we have then later is pulling back. also here in the programme out because one is you are there on the ground in this but states. we'll bring a little more on that a little later on in our programme. i want to turn to one of the main story set in the uk. a teenager who murdered his girlfriend has

be given a life sentence. he was 16 when he stabbed womack when he back in 2023 —— when he's stabbed women who back in 2023. they do not live together. thejudge killed —— said he could wholly because he was jealous and resentful at the end of their relationship there is a warning that the details in this report are distressing. holly newton was a funny, sociable 15—year—old who loved to dance and wanted to become a dance teacher. on friday the 27th of january last year, she had finished school and went into hexham to spend time with friends. what she did not know was that as she walked around

the northumberland town she was being followed by her ex—boyfriend, logan macphail. after tracking herfor a5 minutes, dressed all in black, the 16—year—old spoke to holly outside a pizza shop. less than 15 minutes later he went into an alleyway. he tried to lure her in. at first holly hesitated, but eventually she did and macphail attacked her with a knife. another boy attempted to stop him. the boy tried to help holly by running into the alleyway, grabbing her attacker and putting him in a headlock, but he was stabbed four times in the leg and shoulder. the injuries holly received, however, were catastrophic. injust one minute, she suffered 36 injuries. she was stabbed 12 times, suffered 19 slash wounds and had five further wounds to her hands where she tried to defend herself. the attack was so brutal and sustained that the knife broke during it and it only ended when passers—by ran in and intervened. holly was taken to hospital, where she died. macphail had become increasingly controlling and obsessed with holly, and could not accept their relationship was over. the night before he killed holly, he got the bus to haltwhistle and made his way to her house. he waited outside for hours in the freezing cold,

begging one of her siblings to let him in. as a result, holly's mum arranged a meeting with officers the following afternoon, a meeting holly would never attend. she said, "but i was supposed to be going out with my friends tonight." she begged me for a good, i don't know, half an hour, a5 minutes, "but, mam, i want to go out. he ruins everything for me." macphail claimed he had been carrying a knife for more than a week because he planned to hurt himself, not holly, and that he had no recollection of the attack. but the jury didn't believe him and he was found guilty of her murder at the end of august. holly's family say she was a victim of domestic abuse, but because in the eyes of the law she was a child it was recorded as knife crime. the only connection it has got is the fact that he killed her with a knife. in all honesty, i think he would have killed her with anything, just so she couldn't be with anyone else. because it was all about control, obsession and passion. holly's family now say

they want to see the law changed to reflect that she was yet another female murdered by a former partner. we have more on that story a little later in our programme. the less we live in valencia after this terrible flash floods. there isjust some after this terrible flash floods. there is just some of the debris that they are trying to clear up and of course, the search goes on for dozens and dozens of people who are still missing. will be live in valencia here on the programme in a moment or two. around the world and across the uk. you are watching bbc news.

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