it's 9pm here in washington, 23m in london, and polls have now closed in 15 states, including the swing states of arizona, michigan and wisconsin. voting extended at ten locations for two hours. an emergency court granted the extension after glitches at those locations early in the day. that will add to the time. voting also just ended in colorado, iowa, kansas, louisiana, minnesota, nebraska, new mexico, new york, north dakota, south dakota, texas and wyoming. that is a lot of states. together, these states make up 163 electoral votes. a presidential candidate needs 270 votes to win the white house. but as we said, some key swing

states closing. michigan, wisconsin, they are part of the blue wall we keep talking about thatjoe biden was able to win in 2020. they were essential to his path to 270 and they are once democrats are hoping very much to hold onto. we have seen republicans feeling confident about their chances of taking back may be one or two of those rust belt blue wall states. and there is arizona as well, the sun belt state, we saw wall states. and there is arizona as well, the sun belt state, we sanoe biden eke out a win in 2020. a little over 11,000 votes. he won that state by. that was in 2020. but in this race, we can now bring you a projection, texas projected for donald trump with a0 electoral votes. texas projected for donald trump. a0 electoral votes is a huge piece of the puzzle for donald trump, was expected to go his way, but important as the numbers go up. north dakota also projected for

donald trump, treat electoral votes. north dakota are staunchly republican conservative state which donald trump and his team are banking on. nonetheless, the numbers going up for donald trump with those votes and texas before that. south dakota also expected to go for donald trump. three electoral votes, another key moment of the night for the trump campaign like north dakota, they are banking on these votes coming in including from wyoming, another conservative reliably republican state projected for a co—1. three electoral votes. adding to his tally is on his side at the ledger. let's take a look at whether numbers lie. pretty lopsided at the moment. donald trump with 15a and kamala harris, 127 and 270 they need to win. we have seen the reliably republican states with huge chunks of electoral votes like texas and that's why the number has gone up and that's why the number has gone up so significantly for donald trump

and kamala harris has a smaller number. we will see polls close later on the west coast and some of the reliably democratic states like california it will bring in votes for her so it will even out as we get closer to the 270 number. the key is sunbelt swing state of arizona, at this point, it is too early to project. polls have closed, but we don't have enough information on that state. colorado is also too early to project. it has ten electoral votes and is expected to go to democrats but we cannot project itjust go to democrats but we cannot project it just yet. go to democrats but we cannot project itjust yet. iowa is a midwestern state and it is also too early to project, six electoral votes. there had been chatter about iowa, but it is too early to project. the state of kansas is also too early to project, six electoral votes. polls havejust too early to project, six electoral votes. polls have just closed and they are working on counting so we don't have results just yet. louisiana in the south, eight electoral votes and expected to go to donald trump, too early to project. and the key swing state of

michigan, 15 electoral votes, so important in that maths game they are both playing. too early to project. minnesota wague governor tim walz is from, to project. the prescot usually reliably republican, five and still some vote counting. we are expecting vote counting to continue in new mexico. new york is a blue state, nafta two and expected to go to kamala harris. too early. then that rust belt state of wisconsin, the badger state, so crucialfor wisconsin, the badger state, so crucial for the wisconsin, the badger state, so crucialfor the democrats. it is wisconsin, the badger state, so crucial for the democrats. it is too early to project at this point. that has ten electoral votes and both teams are very keen to win that. let's go to christian fraser. he has been looking at wisconsin and michigan and what the votes tell us there and why they are so important. two of the seven battleground states

and polls have now closed. 2020 is more instructive looking at wisconsin and joe biden. he won this by 30,000 votes and it was very tight. very similar story to the other battleground states, you see a lot of red and the democrats have to run it up in the metro areas like milwaukee. dane county, there is an interesting trend. since 2,000, democrats have put on a 20,000 extra vote share in every cycle. so they certainly need that from dane county, that is madison and the university of wisconsin. look at lacrosse, there are three colleges, this is a very blue—collar country. a lot of young voters there. we will see what donald trump gets out of this. he has that propensity to pull out the blue—collar workers across the map. what happens there tonight is an interesting spot in wisconsin. but we will be looking from his perspective at wow counties. the counties around milwaukee.

washington, for example. this is one in five votes if you include racine. and he did quite well here in 2016. and he did quite well here in 2016. and he will be looking at packers country. i think this is quite purple because joe country. i think this is quite purple becausejoe biden did quite well in this area in 2020. then i would point you to this. door county. 0nly around 30,000 voters here. joe biden won by a handful of votes. let me put it here. he only won by 250 votes. but this is really interesting, door county is the weather vane of the state, they have the presidential race correct in every cycle since 1986. so where goes door county goes the rest of the state. let's have a quick look at, let's go back to arizona. across the way to michigan. sorry. let me

go back. michigan. what is really interesting about michigan, what you can see across the map is that if i flip it back to 2020, there is a lot of red. 0n the peninsula and the northern part of the state, donald trump runs it up quite a lot. this is really only 50% of the vote. in 2020, joe biden put on 5% in nine counties around the south. that is about a third of the vote these counties account for, so he was running up the vote in suburban areas. we are looking at wayne county because this is detroit, 70% black. she needs to do a lot better in detroit than hillary clinton did in 2016. really the collapse was the reason she lost the state. we are also looking at dearborn, you will have heard a lot, about 130,000 there, 30,000 arab americans, many of them lebanese who are deeply unhappy about the situation in the middle east. many said they would be

uncommitted tonight and they could not vote for donald trump who introduced a muslim ban, but they couldn't vote for kamala harris. they come back to the democratic fold or not? we will look at macomb county, this is very much trump territory, blue—collar autoworkers, machine workers, very much trump territory. next door, you have really more suburban areas, more affluent. the women have really turned oakland county from a republican area back to a democratic area. one less thing to look at, this state is red and is a bellwether state, this is cherry country. —— last thing. it did narrow in 2020. people could not understand it and they wondered if covid was one of the reasons. it will look at that very closely tonight because you know what they say, life is a bowl of cherries, but sometimes, you have to wash the dishes. i sometimes, you have to wash the dishes. . ., . , sometimes, you have to wash the dishes. . . . , ., dishes. i have had cherries from there and _ dishes. i have had cherries from there and they _ dishes. i have had cherries from there and they are _ dishes. i have had cherries from there and they are pretty - dishes. i have had cherries from i there and they are pretty fantastic! we will as christian what that meant later. the point is you don't have to wash

them, you just eat them! we have talked about michigan and wisconsin. in michigan first, we have our correspondent standing by, ione wells. she has been speaking to voters for about a week following the latest happening in michigan. give us a sense at this point in the evening how things are going. weill. evening how things are going. well, i am at a democrat _ evening how things are going. well, i am at a democrat watch _ evening how things are going. -ii i am at a democrat watch party in detroit, michigan and as we know from the data so far, it is still much too early to call which way michigan might be going. but there have been a couple of things that have been a couple of things that have been a call for optimism, one of which is 0akland have been a call for optimism, one of which is oakland county, which we heard a bit aboutjust now. this is a state that since 2008 has really been moving towards the democrats. it used to be traditionally quite republican and is an area that is wealthier, more middle—class than some parts of the state in particular and as a result, the

democrats have been quite pleased they have flipped republicans in states like that, counties like that in the state over the years. the fact they will be building on that potentially in that county will give them optimism tonight, although it is still too early to say. not all the votes even in that county have been counted yet. another potential cause for optimism in this room so far, there was a bit of a cheer that went out when some of the early results started coming in on the senate race which has also being watched incredibly closely, the race between the republican mike rogers. only about 8% of votes for the senate race have been counted so far and it is too early to say, but with the results we do have, the democrat candidate is slightly in the lead at the moment. find candidate is slightly in the lead at the moment-— candidate is slightly in the lead at the moment. �* ., ., ., _, the moment. and we are going to come back to the wall. _ the moment. and we are going to come back to the wall. we _ the moment. and we are going to come back to the wall. we do _ the moment. and we are going to come back to the wall. we do have _ the moment. and we are going to come back to the wall. we do have another. back to the wall. we do have another projection to bring you at this hour. we can tell you more about some of the states where the polls have closed, delaware projected for kamala harris, home state ofjoe

biden the president, the current president, with its three electoral votes going to kamala harris. again, the numbers are still pretty lopsided and only three added to the tally for kamala harris and she has 30 and donald trump at 15a. very early in the evening and we will see the numbers get closer and closer as the numbers get closer and closer as the night goes on. we mentioned we were watching the key swing states where polls have closed, one of them was wisconsin. i will correspond at carl nasman is standing by in madison where he has been tracking things. give us an idea of how people are they living a sense of where things are going? the polls have 'ust where things are going? the polls have just closed _ where things are going? the polls have just closed here _ where things are going? the polls have just closed here in _ where things are going? the polls have just closed here in a - where things are going? the polls have just closed here in a matterl where things are going? the polls. have just closed here in a matter of havejust closed here in a matter of moments, and anybody still in line can stay in line and they can cast their vote. we are kind of settling in for what we know will be a long night in the state of wisconsin in terms of when we get a final result

here. we are with the senator tammy baldwin, the democratic senator with her campaign at her watch party and this is where there is also a very tight race notjust for the tight race not just for the presidency, tight race notjust for the presidency, but for control of the senate. she is battling her republican challenge and that is projected to be a tight race. in terms of the results and when we are going to see some counting done, some initial results coming in, we are expecting it to be the smaller areas of the state first. the outer rural counties come in small towns that tend to favour donald trump, they will report first. that contributes to this red mirage, where we see estate turn red in the beginning and go more blue as the large areas of the state start to count. 0ne large areas of the state start to count. one of those cities we will watch closely tonight as milwaukee, the county of milwaukee, a large part of the state. it had... 31,000

ballots early in the evening had to be recounted due to a machine door on the counting machine not being closed. both party observers were in the room, they both agreed to go ahead and recount those votes. this has been something taking place and they have brought in the fire department, fire fighters now there to help catch up, they think they might have lost time and it will always —— already take a long time. and we will be waiting a long time because of a pile of initial votes, initial votes in milwaukee and madison will take time to count, but those are the big areas where the democratic strongholds are. so we will wait potentially past midnight to start to get some of those results. ~ , ., results. we will be waiting with ou, results. we will be waiting with you. thank _ results. we will be waiting with you. thank you. _ results. we will be waiting with you, thank you, carl _ results. we will be waiting with you, thank you, carl nasman,| results. we will be waiting with l you, thank you, carl nasman, in madison, wisconsin.— you, thank you, carl nasman, in madison, wisconsin. let's look at arizona and _ madison, wisconsin. let's look at arizona and speak— madison, wisconsin. let's look at arizona and speak to _ madison, wisconsin. let's look at arizona and speak to former- madison, wisconsin. let's look at arizona and speak to former us l arizona and speak to former us ambassador to turkey and former us senatorfor

ambassador to turkey and former us senator for arizona, republican senator for arizona, republican senatorjeff flake. thank you for being with us. what is your reading of what you are seeing in arizona at the moment? the of what you are seeing in arizona at the moment?— the moment? the polls have 'ust closed and — the moment? the polls have 'ust closed and arizona is i the moment? the polls have 'ust closed and arizona is not i the moment? the polls havejust closed and arizona is not allowed the moment? the polls have just i closed and arizona is not allowed to release _ closed and arizona is not allowed to release any — closed and arizona is not allowed to release any results for one hour so we are _ release any results for one hour so we are still— release any results for one hour so we are still waiting with bated breath — we are still waiting with bated breath. up we are still waiting with bated breath. , ., , ., ., breath. up till now, you are republican. _ breath. up till now, you are republican, but _ breath. up till now, you are republican, but you - breath. up till now, you are republican, but you are - breath. up till now, you are republican, but you are a i breath. up till now, you are - republican, but you are a kamala harris surrogate. you have decided to support her and to ask everybody else to support her as well. how do you think things have gone until this point? you think things have gone until this oint? ~ ., you think things have gone until this point?— you think things have gone until this oint? ~ ., , , , , , this point? well, no surprises yet toniaht. this point? well, no surprises yet tonight- none _ this point? well, no surprises yet tonight. none of _ this point? well, no surprises yet tonight. none of the _ this point? well, no surprises yet tonight. none of the states - this point? well, no surprises yet tonight. none of the states that i tonight. none of the states that were _ tonight. none of the states that were expected to go for kamala harris _ were expected to go for kamala harris have gone for biden and vice versa we — harris have gone for biden and vice versa. we are waiting for the swing states— versa. we are waiting for the swing states including arizona. arizona is going _ states including arizona. arizona is going to _ states including arizona. arizona is going to he — states including arizona. arizona is going to be tight. you can feel that on the _ going to be tight. you can feel that on the ground certainly. sol going to be tight. you can feel that on the ground certainly. so i think it is going — on the ground certainly. so i think it is going to be a long night. her camaian it is going to be a long night. he: campaign have really been focusing hard, one of the two key demographics is on republicans like yourselves who don't want to vote for donald trump and she is asking them to put country head of party ——

them to put country head of party —— the key demographics. are there many more people like you who will help her in some of these swing states? they —— there are and i think it was a wise _ they —— there are and i think it was a wise strategy. arizona went for joe biden— a wise strategy. arizona went for joe biden by about 10,000 votes four years ago— joe biden by about 10,000 votes four years ago and she is hoping for the same _ years ago and she is hoping for the same this— years ago and she is hoping for the same this time. i am hoping she gets there _ same this time. i am hoping she gets there as _ same this time. i am hoping she gets there as well. there are a number of republicans — there as well. there are a number of republicans a lot of republicans who feel like _ republicans a lot of republicans who feel like i_ republicans a lot of republicans who feel like i do. conservative republicans who have felt out of place _ republicans who have felt out of place with the current party. so i think— place with the current party. so i think there — place with the current party. so i think there are a number of us who want— think there are a number of us who want to— think there are a number of us who want to put— think there are a number of us who want to put country above party. from what we've seen with voters we have spoken to it seems the donald trump campaign has been successful in arizona with issues like immigration, specifically at the border and economy, so high prices at the gas tank and also in grocery stores. what is it you have been seeing with those voters because of

the trump campaign feels they have done a good job speaking to voters on those issues. back done a good job speaking to voters on those issues.— done a good job speaking to voters on those issues. back in 2020 it was a bit of an easier— on those issues. back in 2020 it was a bit of an easier lift _ on those issues. back in 2020 it was a bit of an easier lift for— a bit of an easier lift for republicans. butjoe biden came in and he _ republicans. butjoe biden came in and he was — republicans. butjoe biden came in and he was perceived as perhaps more of a moderate than kamala harris is, but that— of a moderate than kamala harris is, but that was— of a moderate than kamala harris is, but that was before january the 6th as well _ but that was before january the 6th as well. that was a threshold issue for republicans, conservative republicans who believe in the rule of law _ republicans who believe in the rule of law. there are mitigating factors that make — of law. there are mitigating factors that make it a real toss—up. the board _ that make it a real toss—up. the board there _ that make it a real toss—up. the board there is the difficult issue for democrats certainly, the economy has been _ for democrats certainly, the economy has been difficult but there are other— has been difficult but there are other issues that favour democrats as well _ other issues that favour democrats as well l _ other issues that favour democrats as well. . , other issues that favour democrats as well. ~ ., ., other issues that favour democrats aswell. ~ ., ., , as well. i was in arizona 'ust about two weeks — as well. i was in arizona 'ust about two weeks ago h as well. i was in arizona 'ust about two weeks ago and _ as well. i was in arizona just about two weeks ago and spent - as well. i was in arizona just about two weeks ago and spent two - as well. i was in arizona just about two weeks ago and spent two daysj two weeks ago and spent two days talking to voters and particularly the latino community was at that time expressing a lot of support for donald trump. in the meantime we had that rally in madison square garden last week and we know the comments

made by some of the warm up acts for donald trump. do you think that will help you when you talk about arizona being so tight? i help you when you talk about arizona being so tight?— being so tight? i know the harris campaign and — being so tight? i know the harris campaign and others _ being so tight? i know the harris campaign and others have - being so tight? i know the harris campaign and others have beenl campaign and others have been thinking — campaign and others have been thinking that has had an impact. tonight— thinking that has had an impact. tonight is— thinking that has had an impact. tonight is when we will see, that is the real— tonight is when we will see, that is the real test when it comes to the election — the real test when it comes to the election. we just don't know but polls— election. we just don't know but polls have — election. we just don't know but polls have just closed and we will -et polls have just closed and we will get the _ polls have just closed and we will get the results here soon. we are out of time. _ get the results here soon. we are out of time, thank _ get the results here soon. we are out of time, thank you _ get the results here soon. we are out of time, thank you very - get the results here soon. we are out of time, thank you very much | get the results here soon. we are i out of time, thank you very much for joining us, former us senatorfor arizona and us ambassador to turkey, thanks for speaking to us on bbc. from arizona to another key swing state, mitch again. we have been discussing all night and we have congresswoman lisa mcclain withers, a republican from the state of michigan. great to have us is on bbc news. we heard about very high turnout from a lot of these swing states, what are you seeing on the

ground? abs. states, what are you seeing on the round? �* ., ., .,, , ., ground? a lot of optimism. thanks for having me- _ ground? a lot of optimism. thanks for having me. 996 _ ground? a lot of optimism. thanks for having me. 996 of _ ground? a lot of optimism. thanks for having me. 996 of the _ ground? a lot of optimism. thanks for having me. 996 of the voters . ground? a lot of optimism. thanks | for having me. 996 of the voters and for having me. 9% of the voters and already. _ for having me. 9% of the voters and already. we — for having me. 9% of the voters and already, we have had over 1.2 million — already, we have had over 1.2 million early voters in the state of michigan — million early voters in the state of michigan which is a record total. i think— michigan which is a record total. i think there — michigan which is a record total. i think there is a lot of enthusiasm and a _ think there is a lot of enthusiasm and a lot— think there is a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of— think there is a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of optimism. the one thing donald _ and a lot of optimism. the one thing donald trump has been able to do in the state _ donald trump has been able to do in the state of— donald trump has been able to do in the state of michigan that is very different— the state of michigan that is very different than i have seen in the past _ different than i have seen in the past is _ different than i have seen in the past is his— different than i have seen in the past is his ability to bring very unique — past is his ability to bring very unique coalitions together under the republican tent, whether it be the african—american community, the arab—american community. it is the teamsters _ arab—american community. it is the teamsters and union workers. it has been _ teamsters and union workers. it has been pretty— teamsters and union workers. it has been pretty remarkable to watch. can i ask ou, been pretty remarkable to watch. i ask you, one been pretty remarkable to watch. can i ask you, one part of the coalition that has been harderfor i ask you, one part of the coalition that has been harder for donald trump to build as women. we know the harris campaign has been looking to run up the vote in the suburbs of a city like detroit among women in particular. is this a place where

you are seeing weakness for donald trump? you are seeing weakness for donald trum? ., , ~' you are seeing weakness for donald trum? ., , ,, , trump? i actually think he is trainin trump? i actually think he is gaining a — trump? i actually think he is gaining a little _ trump? i actually think he is gaining a little bit, - trump? i actually think he is gaining a little bit, not - trump? i actually think he isj gaining a little bit, not much trump? i actually think he is - gaining a little bit, not much with women — gaining a little bit, not much with women to— gaining a little bit, not much with women, to be quite honest with you. but a _ women, to be quite honest with you. but a lot— women, to be quite honest with you. but a lot of— women, to be quite honest with you. but a lot of women are not single issue voters. a lot of women are tired _ issue voters. a lot of women are tired of— issue voters. a lot of women are tired of paying 30% more for groceries _ tired of paying 30% more for groceries to feed their family. they are tired _ groceries to feed their family. they are tired of— groceries to feed their family. they are tired of paying $3 50 a gallon for gas — are tired of paying $3 50 a gallon for gas. the economics are really hitting _ for gas. the economics are really hitting women hard especially single mothers _ hitting women hard especially single mothers who are struggling and having — mothers who are struggling and having to — mothers who are struggling and having to put the groceries and gas on their— having to put the groceries and gas on their credit card every month. i think— on their credit card every month. i think that — on their credit card every month. i think that might be a little bit exaggerated. we think that might be a little bit exaggerated-— think that might be a little bit exa: aerated. ~ , ., ., i. exaggerated. we 'ust heard from your former colleague — exaggerated. we just heard from your former colleague jeff _ exaggerated. we just heard from your former colleague jeff flake _ exaggerated. we just heard from your former colleague jeff flake of - exaggerated. we just heard from your former colleague jeff flake of the - former colleague jeff flake of the republican party and speaking about that constituency of republicans who don't want to vote for donald trump and will vote for kamala harris. he thinks there are a sizeable number of people there, do you agree with that? i of people there, do you agree with that? ., �* ., ., .,

that? i don't agree with that. from what i that? i don't agree with that. from what i have — that? i don't agree with that. from what i have been _ that? i don't agree with that. from what i have been seeing _ what i have been seeing knocking doors _ what i have been seeing knocking doors and — what i have been seeing knocking doors and on the ground at events. just a _ doors and on the ground at events. just a couple of weeks ago, we had all of— just a couple of weeks ago, we had all of the _ just a couple of weeks ago, we had all of the respected e mums at a rally endorsing donald trump. we had the mayor— rally endorsing donald trump. we had the mayor of dearborn heights endorsed donald trump, those are all unigue _ endorsed donald trump, those are all unique coalitions that he is bringing _ unique coalitions that he is bringing together under nice trump so i would strongly disagree with my colleague _ so i would strongly disagree with my colleauue. ~ ., ., , ., so i would strongly disagree with my colleauue. . ., ., , ., ., colleague. what does that mean be ond colleague. what does that mean beyond today plasma _ colleague. what does that mean beyond today plasma collection | colleague. what does that mean - beyond today plasma collection when there are people who have come out so publicly for kamala harris? i think you have that on both sides, people _ think you have that on both sides, people coming out for kamala harris but the _ people coming out for kamala harris but the same if not hopefully more people _ but the same if not hopefully more people who will come out for donald trump _ people who will come out for donald trump it— people who will come out for donald trump. it depends on who you talk to and where _ trump. it depends on who you talk to and where you are at. again i am cautiously— and where you are at. again i am cautiously optimistic that people

would _ cautiously optimistic that people would much rather have a strong economv — would much rather have a strong economy. when donald trump left office _ economy. when donald trump left office inflation was at 1.a% and gas was at _ office inflation was at 1.a% and gas was at $1— office inflation was at 1.a% and gas was at $1 50 a gallon. when donald trump _ was at $1 50 a gallon. when donald trump left — was at $1 50 a gallon. when donald trump left office there were exactly zero war is — trump left office there were exactly zero war is raging across of the globe, — zero war is raging across of the globe, which is a very different contrast— globe, which is a very different contrast to what we see now. we had peace _ contrast to what we see now. we had peace in _ contrast to what we see now. we had peace in the middle east, we had the abraham _ peace in the middle east, we had the abraham accords. we didn't have the wars raging _ abraham accords. we didn't have the wars raging that we have now and we had a _ wars raging that we have now and we had a great _ wars raging that we have now and we had a great economy. we didn't have, especially— had a great economy. we didn't have, especially in _ had a great economy. we didn't have, especially in michigan, we had manufacturing jobs. we didn't have lav-offs _ manufacturing jobs. we didn't have lay—offs. right here in my home county, — lay—offs. right here in my home county, stella lantosjust laid off 2000 _ county, stella lantosjust laid off 2000 auto workers. the ev mandates don't work— 2000 auto workers. the ev mandates don't work that the democrats and kamala _ don't work that the democrats and kamala harris are trying to push down _ kamala harris are trying to push down our— kamala harris are trying to push down our throats. sol kamala harris are trying to push down our throats. so i see a very different landscape than the democrats are trying to portray.

great to _ democrats are trying to portray. great to speak to you tonight from michigan — great to speak to you tonight from michigan. thank you forjoining us on bbc_ michigan. thank you forjoining us on bbc news. our panel are still with us — on bbc news. our panel are still with us. just talking about michigan we can— with us. just talking about michigan we can see — with us. just talking about michigan we can see information coming to us from _ we can see information coming to us from cbs _ we can see information coming to us from cbs news that the younger voters _ from cbs news that the younger voters in — from cbs news that the younger voters in the 18—29 bracket are narrowly — voters in the 18—29 bracket are narrowly going to donald trump. joe narrowly going to donald trump. jim biden narrowly going to donald trump. biden got narrowly going to donald trump. ire: biden got support of about 61% of those. what you think that means? still early days. what is the motivating factor? is that the economy and the hottest of housing and the groceries? == economy and the hottest of housing and the groceries?— and the groceries? -- cost of housing- _ and the groceries? -- cost of housing. to be _ and the groceries? -- cost of housing. to be frank- and the groceries? -- cost of housing. to be frank with - and the groceries? -- cost ofj housing. to be frank with you and the groceries? -- cost of. housing. to be frank with you i and the groceries? -- cost of - housing. to be frank with you i saw how eminem — housing. to be frank with you i saw how eminem performed _ housing. to be frank with you i saw how eminem performed last - housing. to be frank with you i saw how eminem performed last nightl housing. to be frank with you i saw. how eminem performed last night in detroit. _ how eminem performed last night in detroit. so _ how eminem performed last night in detroit. so i — how eminem performed last night in detroit. so i do _ how eminem performed last night in detroit, so i do think— how eminem performed last night in detroit, so i do think the _ how eminem performed last night in detroit, so i do think the younger. detroit, so i do think the younger vote is— detroit, so i do think the younger vote is going _ detroit, so i do think the younger vote is going to— detroit, so i do think the younger vote is going to try am _ detroit, so i do think the youngerl vote is going to try am historically in the _ vote is going to try am historically in the democrat _ vote is going to try am historically in the democrat direction - vote is going to try am historically in the democrat direction in- in the democrat direction in michigan _ in the democrat direction in michigan it—

in the democrat direction in michigan. it is— in the democrat direction in michigan. it is early- in the democrat direction in michigan. it is early days i in the democrat direction in. michigan. it is early days and i know— michigan. it is early days and i know you _ michigan. it is early days and i know you mentioned - michigan. it is early days and i know you mentioned it - michigan. it is early days and i know you mentioned it but i i michigan. it is early days and i. know you mentioned it but i am pretty— know you mentioned it but i am pretty confident _ know you mentioned it but i am pretty confident michigan - know you mentioned it but i am pretty confident michigan and l pretty confident michigan and wisconsin _ pretty confident michigan and wisconsin will— pretty confident michigan and wisconsin will be _ pretty confident michigan and wisconsin will be even - pretty confident michigan and wisconsin will be even better| pretty confident michigan and i wisconsin will be even better than pennsylvania _ wisconsin will be even better than pennsylvania. it— wisconsin will be even better than pennsylvania-— wisconsin will be even better than pennsylvania. it does show the plan that the trump _ pennsylvania. it does show the plan that the trump campaign _ pennsylvania. it does show the plan that the trump campaign had i pennsylvania. it does show the plan that the trump campaign had of- pennsylvania. it does show the plan i that the trump campaign had of going after younger voters and younger men in particular, maybe there is something to that?- in particular, maybe there is something to that? in particular, maybe there is somethin: to that? ., , something to that? one of the things donald trump — something to that? one of the things donald trump can _ something to that? one of the things donald trump can actually _ something to that? one of the things donald trump can actually impact, i donald trump can actually impact, trving _ donald trump can actually impact, trying to— donald trump can actually impact, trying to get a larger share of the black— trying to get a larger share of the black vote, — trying to get a larger share of the black vote, which we have seen indications _ black vote, which we have seen indications he is doing and going after— indications he is doing and going after the — indications he is doing and going after the younger vote. we have seen him try— after the younger vote. we have seen him try to _ after the younger vote. we have seen him try to implement that strategy by the _ him try to implement that strategy by the choices of the campaign has made _ by the choices of the campaign has made he — by the choices of the campaign has made. he has not done the big network— made. he has not done the big network tv interviews, he has done a tonne _ network tv interviews, he has done a tonne of— network tv interviews, he has done a tonne of podcasts trying to meet young _ tonne of podcasts trying to meet young people where they are, particularly young men, and they have _ particularly young men, and they have seen— particularly young men, and they have seen the numbers moving in his direction _ have seen the numbers moving in his direction so— have seen the numbers moving in his direction. so it could turn out at the end — direction. so it could turn out at the end of— direction. so it could turn out at the end of all of this that his efforts— the end of all of this that his efforts with black voters and with young _ efforts with black voters and with young men have made an enormous impact~ _ young men have made an enormous impact~ tide— young men have made an enormous imact. ~ ., ., , ., impact. we will have to see what im act impact. we will have to see what impact that _ impact. we will have to see what impact that has _ impact. we will have to see what impact that has on _ impact. we will have to see what impact that has on the _ impact. we will have to see what impact that has on the other i impact. we will have to see what j impact that has on the other side impact. we will have to see what i impact that has on the other side of the coin with exit poll data showing

kamala harris is doing better with older voters. kamala harris is doing better with older voters-— older voters. aged 65 or over and that was a — older voters. aged 65 or over and that was a group _ older voters. aged 65 or over and that was a group that _ older voters. aged 65 or over and that was a group that was - older voters. aged 65 or over and that was a group that was more l that was a group that was more divided in 2020 and they make up a larger part of the electorate than young voters. larger part of the electorate than young voters-— young voters. older voters vote, 'ust as young voters. older voters vote, just as women — young voters. older voters vote, just as women vote _ young voters. older voters vote, just as women vote more - young voters. older voters vote, just as women vote more than i young voters. older voters vote, i just as women vote more than men, older voters have more time on their hands and actually turn out and vote. i have young voters in my family. most of them get to the polls most of the time but not always and they have other distractions. michigan had the highest youth turnout of any state in the country in 2020 and it is powered by the big universities michigan state and the university of michigan state and the university of michigan so we have to see where the early data is coming, from those towns or other areas of the state. it would be surprising to me if donald trump one young voters in numbers, especially college educated young voters because they tend to be more democratic but let's wait and see. �* more democratic but let's wait and see. ~ , , ,., more democratic but let's wait and see. ~ , ., .,

see. and support from the older voters would — see. and support from the older voters would mean _ see. and support from the older voters would mean the - see. and support from the older voters would mean the poll i see. and support from the older voters would mean the poll as i see. and support from the older- voters would mean the poll as maybe an outlier from voters would mean the poll as maybe an outlierfrom iowa over the weekend, that showed the support for kamala harris, the surge among older women. maybe she was onto something? i do think when you look at the polling — i do think when you look at the polling it — i do think when you look at the polling it has _ i do think when you look at the polling it has been _ i do think when you look at the polling it has been drastically. polling it has been drastically undercounting _ polling it has been drastically undercounting the _ polling it has been drastically undercounting the women i polling it has been drastically. undercounting the women vote polling it has been drastically- undercounting the women vote ever since _ undercounting the women vote ever since the _ undercounting the women vote ever since the dobbs— undercounting the women vote ever since the dobbs decision, _ undercounting the women vote ever since the dobbs decision, and - undercounting the women vote ever since the dobbs decision, and there| since the dobbs decision, and there was no _ since the dobbs decision, and there was no red — since the dobbs decision, and there was no red wave _ since the dobbs decision, and there was no red wave two _ since the dobbs decision, and there was no red wave two years - since the dobbs decision, and there was no red wave two years ago i since the dobbs decision, and therel was no red wave two years ago when there was— was no red wave two years ago when there was historically— was no red wave two years ago when there was historically supposed i was no red wave two years ago when there was historically supposed to i there was historically supposed to be a red _ there was historically supposed to be a red wave _ there was historically supposed to be a red wave and _ there was historically supposed to be a red wave and even— there was historically supposed to be a red wave and even when- there was historically supposed to i be a red wave and even when you had democrats _ be a red wave and even when you had democrats going _ be a red wave and even when you had democrats going for— be a red wave and even when you had democrats going for governor- be a red wave and even when you had democrats going for governor in i democrats going for governor in places— democrats going for governor in places like — democrats going for governor in places like kentucky. _ democrats going for governor in places like kentucky. this - democrats going for governor in places like kentucky. this is- democrats going for governor in places like kentucky. this is thej places like kentucky. this is the first presidential— places like kentucky. this is the first presidential election - places like kentucky. this is the first presidential election since i first presidential election since dobbs— first presidential election since dobbs and _ first presidential election since dobbs and women _ first presidential election since dobbs and women are - first presidential election since i dobbs and women are energised to vote and _ dobbs and women are energised to vote and it — dobbs and women are energised to vote and it is — dobbs and women are energised to vote and it is about _ dobbs and women are energised to vote and it is about reproductive i vote and it is about reproductive freedom — vote and it is about reproductive freedom i— vote and it is about reproductive freedom. i understand - vote and it is about reproductive freedom. i understand donald i vote and it is about reproductive i freedom. i understand donald trump is trying _ freedom. i understand donald trump is trying to— freedom. i understand donald trump is trying to reach _ freedom. i understand donald trump is trying to reach out _ freedom. i understand donald trump is trying to reach out and _ freedom. i understand donald trump is trying to reach out and saying i freedom. i understand donald trump is trying to reach out and saying if i is trying to reach out and saying if women _ is trying to reach out and saying if women don't _ is trying to reach out and saying if women don't want _ is trying to reach out and saying if women don't want me _ is trying to reach out and saying if women don't want me i— is trying to reach out and saying if women don't want me i will- is trying to reach out and saying if. women don't want me i will protect them _ women don't want me i will protect them they— women don't want me i will protect them they don't _ women don't want me i will protect them. they don't want _ women don't want me i will protect them. they don't want to _ women don't want me i will protect them. they don't want to be - them. they don't want to be protected _ them. they don't want to be protected by— them. they don't want to be protected by donald - them. they don't want to be protected by donald trump. | them. they don't want to be i protected by donald trump. they them. they don't want to be _ protected by donald trump. they want to be protected — protected by donald trump. they want to be protected from _ protected by donald trump. they want to be protected from donald _ protected by donald trump. they want to be protected from donald trump i to be protected from donald trump and their— to be protected from donald trump and their voices _ to be protected from donald trump and their voices are _ to be protected from donald trump and their voices are being - to be protected from donald trump and their voices are being heard i and their voices are being heard today~ _ and their voices are being heard today i— and their voices are being heard toda . , ., _, and their voices are being heard toda. today. i will let you come back on that in just the _ today. i will let you come back on that in just the second _ today. i will let you come back on

that in just the second but - today. i will let you come back on that in just the second but we i today. i will let you come back on | that in just the second but we have some more key race projections to bring and then i will come back to you. shes bring and then i will come back to ou. �* , bring and then i will come back to ou, �* , ., bring and then i will come back to ou. a ., , ., you. as we said a the polls have closed and _ you. as we said a the polls have closed and the _ you. as we said a the polls have closed and the number - you. as we said a the polls have closed and the number of i you. as we said a the polls havej closed and the number of states and were waiting for the results to be counted and brought to us but we have another projection to bring to you. louisiana projected for donald trump with its eight electoral votes. louisiana a staunch republican state going to donald trump as expected. rhode island with its four electoral votes projected for kamala harris. this state in the north—east is reliably democrat. attached to her tally so let's look at where we are right now. donald trump with 162, kamala harris with 3a. iwill trump with 162, kamala harris with 3a. i will say again, they both need to get to 270 to win but right now we have a lot of states that have not closed that are reliably democrat which is why the tally is so lopsided. we will see the numbers edge closer and closer together but at the moment these early numbers

have. 162 and 3a at this point in the evening. we are just talking about the state of kansas. being from kansas _ about the state of kansas. being from kansas i _ about the state of kansas. being from kansas i went _ about the state of kansas. being from kansas i went through i about the state of kansas. being from kansas i went through the l about the state of kansas. being from kansas i went through the vote, the first— from kansas i went through the vote, the first vote in the nation after the first vote in the nation after the dobbs— the first vote in the nation after the dobbs decision and it was a big deal _ the dobbs decision and it was a big deal a _ the dobbs decision and it was a big deal. a surprising vote for a lot of us and _ deal. a surprising vote for a lot of us and if— deal. a surprising vote for a lot of us and if the — deal. a surprising vote for a lot of us and if the harris campaign didn't have that _ us and if the harris campaign didn't have that issue and if they didn't have _ have that issue and if they didn't have the — have that issue and if they didn't have the saving democracy issue, they would — have the saving democracy issue, they would be an enormous trouble. the headwinds that her candidacy faces— the headwinds that her candidacy faces are — the headwinds that her candidacy faces are remarkable. two thirds of the country— faces are remarkable. two thirds of the country think we are on the wrong — the country think we are on the wrong track, joe biden's approval ratings _ wrong track, joe biden's approval ratings are — wrong track, joe biden's approval ratings are in the high 305 are wrong track, joe biden'5 approval ratings are in the high 305 are low 40s _ ratings are in the high 305 are low 40s the — ratings are in the high 305 are low 405. the american people do not rehire _ 405. the american people do not rehire the — 405. the american people do not rehire the same party to stay in the white _ rehire the same party to stay in the white house with numbers like that. but they are very important issues for what looks like half of the country. for what looks like half of the count . ., , , , for what looks like half of the count. .,, , , country. undoubtedly, but absent those issues _ country. undoubtedly, but absent those issues people _ country. undoubtedly, but absent those issues people will- country. undoubtedly, but absent those issues people will look- country. undoubtedly, but absent those issues people will look at i country. undoubtedly, but absent. those issues people will look at the economy _ those issues people will look at the economy. you can't really ab5ent those _ economy. you can't really ab5ent

those issues. i economy. you can't really ab5ent those issues. lam economy. you can't really ab5ent those issues. i am saying from the campaign perspective if they didn't have those issues to talk about, donald — have those issues to talk about, donald trump i5 have those issues to talk about, donald trump is doing much better on the economy and immigration 5o donald trump is doing much better on the economy and immigration so those issues _ the economy and immigration so those issues i _ the economy and immigration so those issues i think about allowed lee harris _ issues i think about allowed lee harri5 campaign to make this a much closer race _ harri5 campaign to make this a much closer race than it would have been clo5er race than it would have been otherwise — clo5er race than it would have been otherwise. find closer race than it would have been otherwise. �* ., ., ., otherwise. and i want to say that the donald _ otherwise. and i want to say that the donald trump _ otherwise. and i want to say that the donald trump was _ otherwise. and i want to say that the donald trump was fired i otherwise. and i want to say that the donald trump was fired in i otherwise. and i want to say that i the donald trump was fired in 2020 and then— the donald trump was fired in 2020 and then there _ the donald trump was fired in 2020 and then there was _ the donald trump was fired in 2020 and then there was january- the donald trump was fired in 2020 and then there was january the i the donald trump was fired in 2020 and then there was january the 6th| and then there was january the 6th so it is_ and then there was january the 6th so it is about — and then there was january the 6th so it is about democracy _ and then there was january the 6th so it is about democracy and - so it is about democracy and democracy— so it is about democracy and democracy is _ so it is about democracy and democracy is the _ so it is about democracy and democracy is the number. so it is about democracy and l democracy is the number two so it is about democracy and - democracy is the number two issue among _ democracy is the number two issue among exit— democracy is the number two issue among exit polls _ democracy is the number two issue among exit polls but _ democracy is the number two issue among exit polls but when - democracy is the number two issue among exit polls but when you - democracy is the number two issuei among exit polls but when you have the highest — among exit polls but when you have the highest ever— among exit polls but when you have the highest ever stock— among exit polls but when you have the highest ever stock market, - among exit polls but when you havei the highest ever stock market, when you have _ the highest ever stock market, when you have an— the highest ever stock market, when you have an oil— the highest ever stock market, when you have an oil and _ the highest ever stock market, when you have an oil and natural— the highest ever stock market, when you have an oil and natural gas- you have an oil and natural gas production— you have an oil and natural gas production at _ you have an oil and natural gas production at the _ you have an oil and natural gas production at the highest - you have an oil and natural gas| production at the highest levels you have an oil and natural gas. production at the highest levels in american — production at the highest levels in american history. _ production at the highest levels in american history. when _ production at the highest levels in american history. when you - production at the highest levels in american history. when you have| american history. when you have ihftatioh — american history. when you have inflation down _ american history. when you have inflation down to _ american history. when you have inflation down to where _ american history. when you have inflation down to where it - american history. when you have inflation down to where it should| american history. when you have . inflation down to where it should be at that _ inflation down to where it should be at that 2% _ inflation down to where it should be at that 2% level, _ inflation down to where it should be at that 2% level, and _ inflation down to where it should be at that 2% level, and that _ inflation down to where it should be at that 2% level, and that they- inflation down to where it should be at that 2% level, and that they have landed _ at that 2% level, and that they have landed the — at that 2% level, and that they have landed the plane _ at that 2% level, and that they have landed the plane out— at that 2% level, and that they have landed the plane out of— at that 2% level, and that they have landed the plane out of recession. i landed the plane out of recession. all those — landed the plane out of recession. all those factors _ landed the plane out of recession. all those factors are _ landed the plane out of recession. all those factors are trending - landed the plane out of recession. all those factors are trending for. all those factors are trending for kamala harris _ all those factors are trending for kamala harris but _ all those factors are trending for kamala harris but i _ all those factors are trending for kamala harris but i do _ all those factors are trending for kamala harris but i do agree - all those factors are trending fori kamala harris but i do agree with jake _ kamala harris but i do agree with jake. people _ kamala harris but i do agree with jake. people want _ kamala harris but i do agree with jake. people want a _ kamala harris but i do agree with jake. people want a new- kamala harris but i do agree with . jake. people want a new generation of leadership — jake. people want a new generation of leadership and _ jake. people want a new generation of leadership and it _ jake. people want a new generation of leadership and it is _ jake. people want a new generation of leadership and it is not _ jake. people want a new generation of leadership and it is not people i of leadership and it is not people who are — of leadership and it is not people who are 18— of leadership and it is not people who are 18 years old, _ of leadership and it is not people who are 18 years old, whether. of leadership and it is not peoplei who are 18 years old, whetherjoe biden— who are 18 years old, whetherjoe biden or— who are 18 years old, whetherjoe biden or donald _ who are 18 years old, whetherjoe biden or donald trump. _ who are 18 years old, whetherjoe biden or donald trump. irelie- who are 18 years old, whetherjoe biden or donald trump.— who are 18 years old, whetherjoe biden or donald trump. we will pick u . biden or donald trump. we will pick u- those biden or donald trump. we will pick up those thoughts _ biden or donald trump. we will pick up those thoughts and _ biden or donald trump. we will pick up those thoughts and just - biden or donald trump. we will pick up those thoughts and just a - biden or donald trump. we will pick. up those thoughts and just a moment but we have another key race

projection to bring. you but we have another key race projection to bring.— but we have another key race projection to bring. you see me runnina projection to bring. you see me running across _ projection to bring. you see me running across your _ projection to bring. you see me running across your screen, - projection to bring. you see me running across your screen, i i projection to bring. you see mel running across your screen, i am getting up and sitting down because numbers are coming in the. this is where we are at the moment as we mentioned, 3a for kamala harris, 162 for donald trump. you see the 270 in the middle but we do have another projection to bring you right now. new york projected for kamala harris with its 28 electoral votes. we know new york is a blue state, reliably democrat, we knew this would go into her tally but you see on her end of the numbers go up. 62 for kamala harris with the numbers from new york added n and 162 for donald trump so we will keep track of those projections for you as they come in. as we have been talking about exit polling data let's zoom in again because we have been looking into some of the information coming in from north carolina.— some of the information coming in from north carolina. yes, so we have this new wave —

from north carolina. yes, so we have this new wave of _ from north carolina. yes, so we have this new wave of data _ from north carolina. yes, so we have this new wave of data from _ from north carolina. yes, so we have this new wave of data from exit - from north carolina. yes, so we have this new wave of data from exit poll l this new wave of data from exit poll data in north carolina and often times we have seen the campaigns go around these battleground states trying to convince voters last minute to join their site. what we are seeing is that most voters actually made their mind up before september. only 5% or thereabouts made their decision in the last week. if you drill into that data a bit closer and see who those voters ended up voting for according to their preliminary data, of the small amount, a handful of voters that we so make their mind up in the last week the majority, more than half, voted for kamala harris. again this is preliminary data and it could change as more data keeps coming in and more voters are surveyed and more votes counted. and then if you look at those who voted before september, so that the majority, in fact more than half of them voted for donald trump. and again this is

important data to campaigns because that final week is important to them, those undecided voters are important to them and according to this data of the voters in north carolina who have been surveyed more than half of those who decided in the last week went for kamala harris. as we know, this election will be won and lost state by state. thank ou ve won and lost state by state. thank you very much- — won and lost state by state. thank you very much. lots _ won and lost state by state. thank you very much. lots to _ won and lost state by state. thank you very much. lots to talk- won and lost state by state. thank you very much. lots to talk about | you very much. lots to talk about with our panel. i can see you are itching to make comments! it is like being in school here and we are the teachers. let's go across to arizona and emma vardy who has some news for us. taste and emma vardy who has some news for us. ~ ., , and emma vardy who has some news for us. . . , ., ., and emma vardy who has some news for us, ~ ., , ., ., ., us. we have been hearing about a bomb threat _ us. we have been hearing about a bomb threat from _ us. we have been hearing about a bomb threat from local _ us. we have been hearing about a bomb threat from local officials i bomb threat from local officials affecting the maricopa county recorders office around the corner from the vote counting centre. he is

one of the top election officials in arizona. but they are telling us they don't believe it is credible. it is very much in line with a number of other hoax bomb threats affecting arizona and other states. believed to be, officials say, linked to russian actors. but they cannot be too careful and they are doing a sweep of his office to make absolutely certain. in the north of arizona, some polling stations have also been affected by what we believe to be hoax bomb threats which has delayed things a bit. polls have closed here in the past hour, but they have given them an extra two hours to stay open to make sure all voters who want to vote can do. this is not a great surprise because they have been geared up for months and years to counter any misinformation and outside interference with these elections. but of course, now it is all happening, it is a reminder of the outside actors trying to undermine what is happening here. but they do believe and want to reassure everybody they think it is a hoax at

the moment and they have all been prepared for this for a while. thanks for bringing us up to date and we will keep on any developments. patrick, you are itching to get in and notional moment. in itching to get in and notional moment. ii' ~ itching to get in and notional moment-— itching to get in and notional moment. ::' ~ " , . moment. in 2016, 1196 were undecided auoin to the moment. in 2016, 1196 were undecided going to the final— moment. in 2016, 1196 were undecided going to the final stretch. _ moment. in 2016, 1196 were undecided going to the final stretch. i _ moment. in 2016, 1196 were undecided going to the final stretch. i agree - going to the final stretch. i agree with the — going to the final stretch. i agree with the assessment that four years a-o, with the assessment that four years ago. it— with the assessment that four years ago. it was— with the assessment that four years ago, it was 5% and is now 5%. those tram _ ago, it was 5% and is now 5%. those tram tihes _ ago, it was 5% and is now 5%. those tram lines when you look at it, they will decide, — tram lines when you look at it, they will decide, most of them are independents and they are absolutely breaking _ independents and they are absolutely breaking towards kamala harris in the final— breaking towards kamala harris in the final stretch. part of the reason _ the final stretch. part of the reason is _ the final stretch. part of the reason is she has been very consistent in her message. she is saying. _ consistent in her message. she is saying, country of the party. we need _ saying, country of the party. we need a _ saying, country of the party. we need a new— saying, country of the party. we need a new generation of leadership. dohatd _ need a new generation of leadership. donald trump has not been disciplined. he has been talking about— disciplined. he has been talking about an — disciplined. he has been talking about an island of garbage and liz chehey_ about an island of garbage and liz cheney and other things that independent voters are not buying what he's — independent voters are not buying what he's selling. you independent voters are not buying what he's selling.— what he's selling. you are also “uminu what he's selling. you are also jumping to _ what he's selling. you are also jumping to get _ what he's selling. you are also jumping to get in. _ what he's selling. you are also jumping to get in. i _ what he's selling. you are also jumping to get in. i covered i what he's selling. you are also| jumping to get in. i covered the 2016— jumping to get in. i covered the 2016 cambaign_ jumping to get in. i covered the 2016 campaign and _ jumping to get in. i covered the 2016 campaign and it _ jumping to get in. i covered the 2016 campaign and it was - jumping to get in. i covered the 2016 campaign and it was in - jumping to get in. i covered the| 2016 campaign and it was in the final days — 2016 campaign and it was in the final days the _

2016 campaign and it was in the final days. the clinton- 2016 campaign and it was in the | final days. the clinton campaign that saw— final days. the clinton campaign that saw this _ final days. the clinton campaign that saw this in _ final days. the clinton campaign that saw this in real— final days. the clinton campaign that saw this in real time. - final days. the clinton campaign that saw this in real time. theyi final days. the clinton campaign. that saw this in real time. they saw the momentum _ that saw this in real time. they saw the momentum move _ that saw this in real time. they saw the momentum move away- that saw this in real time. they saw the momentum move away from i that saw this in real time. they saw. the momentum move away from them that saw this in real time. they saw- the momentum move away from them and they saw— the momentum move away from them and they saw tate _ the momentum move away from them and they saw late to _ the momentum move away from them and they saw late to say— the momentum move away from them and they saw late to say does _ the momentum move away from them and they saw late to say does break— the momentum move away from them and they saw late to say does break away- they saw late to say does break away from secretary — they saw late to say does break away from secretary clinton _ they saw late to say does break away from secretary clinton back- they saw late to say does break away from secretary clinton back then. - they saw late to say does break away from secretary clinton back then. ——| from secretary clinton back then. —— and they— from secretary clinton back then. —— and they saw— from secretary clinton back then. —— and they saw voters _ from secretary clinton back then. —— and they saw voters breakaway. - and they saw voters breakaway. perhaps — and they saw voters breakaway. perhaps after _ and they saw voters breakaway. perhaps after that _ and they saw voters breakaway. perhaps after that madison - and they saw voters breakaway. . perhaps after that madison square rally in— perhaps after that madison square rally in new— perhaps after that madison square rally in new york, _ perhaps after that madison square rally in new york, voters - perhaps after that madison square rally in new york, voters may- perhaps after that madison square rally in new york, voters may be l rally in new york, voters may be deciding — rally in new york, voters may be deciding for— rally in new york, voters may be deciding for kamala _ rally in new york, voters may be deciding for kamala harris. - rally in new york, voters may be deciding for kamala harris. i- rally in new york, voters may be deciding for kamala harris. i am| deciding for kamala harris. i am hearing — deciding for kamala harris. i am hearing from _ deciding for kamala harris. i am hearing from senior— deciding for kamala harris. i am hearing from senior sources - deciding for kamala harris. i am hearing from senior sources in. deciding for kamala harris. i am l hearing from senior sources in the harris _ hearing from senior sources in the harris campaign _ hearing from senior sources in the harris campaign they— hearing from senior sources in the harris campaign they are - hearing from senior sources in the harris campaign they are still - harris campaign they are still totatty— harris campaign they are still totally confident— harris campaign they are still totally confident about - harris campaign they are stilll totally confident about tonight harris campaign they are still - totally confident about tonight even though— totally confident about tonight even though there — totally confident about tonight even though there has _ totally confident about tonight even though there has been _ totally confident about tonight even though there has been nervousness over the _ though there has been nervousness over the last — though there has been nervousness over the last couple _ though there has been nervousness over the last couple of _ though there has been nervousness over the last couple of hours, - though there has been nervousness over the last couple of hours, but . over the last couple of hours, but the harris — over the last couple of hours, but the harris campaign _ over the last couple of hours, but the harris campaign still- over the last couple of hours, but the harris campaign still says - over the last couple of hours, buti the harris campaign still says they feel confident. _ the harris campaign still says they feel confident. i— the harris campaign still says they feel confident.— feel confident. i would 'ust like to oint out feel confident. i would 'ust like to point out president _ feel confident. i would just like to point out president trump - feel confident. i would just like to point out president trump didn'tl feel confident. i would just like to i point out president trump didn't say anything _ point out president trump didn't say anything about a floating island of garbage — anything about a floating island of garbage. it was somebody at his ratty _ garbage. it was somebody at his ratty it — garbage. it was somebody at his rally. it was not helpful, i grant you and — rally. it was not helpful, i grant you and it — rally. it was not helpful, i grant you and it was not helpful forjoe biden— you and it was not helpful forjoe biden to — you and it was not helpful forjoe biden to call trump supporters garbage — biden to call trump supporters garbage and was very reminiscent of hittary— garbage and was very reminiscent of hillary clinton calling them deplorable. as much as you talk about— deplorable. as much as you talk about the — deplorable. as much as you talk about the stock market doing well or the latest _ about the stock market doing well or the latestjob numbers or inflation

numbers, — the latestjob numbers or inflation numbers, people across this country do not _ numbers, people across this country do not feet— numbers, people across this country do not feel it when they go to the grocery— do not feel it when they go to the grocery store, when they fell at the -as grocery store, when they fell at the gas tank, _ grocery store, when they fell at the gas tank, they are not feeling the relief _ gas tank, they are not feeling the relief and — gas tank, they are not feeling the relief. and clearly when you see over— relief. and clearly when you see over two — relief. and clearly when you see over two thirds of the country think we are _ over two thirds of the country think we are on— over two thirds of the country think we are on the wrong track, they are holding _ we are on the wrong track, they are holding this — we are on the wrong track, they are holding this administration accountable. i think that's why you are seeing — accountable. i think that's why you are seeing early indications are president — are seeing early indications are president trump doing that. jake is accurate, president trump doing that. jake is accurate. the _ president trump doing that. jake is accurate, the american _ president trump doing that. jake is accurate, the american people - president trump doing that. jake is | accurate, the american people have been put through the wringer. we lost 1 been put through the wringer. we lost! million americans four years ago with covid and inflation has gone up all over the world. in the political system in america, we are blaming democrats, democrats. that is the name of the game. even though in the rest of the world, inflation went up. the reality is it has gone down in the stock market is up. and the majority of americans have homeownership and pensions tied to the stock market. homeownership and home rates have gone up 54% in the last five years. that is historic. that is where most people get their net income from. i get it, people are feeling it because they have

been put through the wringer, but they want to turn a page on the politics of the past and that's why i feel pretty good about tonight. why has the biden administration not been able to get on top of that? you talk about the metrics being so positive. the but you go and do your grocery shopping and you get sticker shock every time you stand at the till trying to pay. shock every time you stand at the till trying to pay-— till trying to pay. that would be one of my _ till trying to pay. that would be one of my criticisms _ till trying to pay. that would be one of my criticisms of - till trying to pay. that would be one of my criticisms of the - till trying to pay. that would be | one of my criticisms of the biden administration. they were too slow in explaining to business leaders... it is not explaining, it is doing something about bringing those prices down, the republicans would say. they have not come down and inflation has.— say. they have not come down and inflation has. ., ., ., inflation has. some of them have not come down — inflation has. some of them have not come down because _ inflation has. some of them have not come down because of— inflation has. some of them have not come down because of supply - inflation has. some of them have not come down because of supply chains| come down because of supply chains and everything else from covid. some prices have gone down, including gas prices. it was $6 in pennsylvania and now it is down to $3. in some places injersey come at less than $3. when you look at those things, yes, we could have done a betterjob

explaining it. but! yes, we could have done a betterjob explaining it. but i would also say part of it was political theatre. and people say that if it bleeds, it leads. they will let people know the negative things. we had 75 straight months ofjobs growth we handed over to donald trump. and he wants to claim that he created that great economy. i don't think the audio matches the video. the economy. i don't think the audio matches the video.— matches the video. the core of donald trump's _ matches the video. the core of donald trump's support - matches the video. the core of donald trump's support and i matches the video. the core of- donald trump's support and candidacy is americans across this country, tens— is americans across this country, tens of— is americans across this country, tens of millions of them trust donatd — tens of millions of them trust donald trump more on the economy. for the _ donald trump more on the economy. for the first _ donald trump more on the economy. for the first time and a lot of their— for the first time and a lot of their lives, it is where you see new voters _ their lives, it is where you see new voters showing up because they feel someone _ voters showing up because they feel someone is actually making the case. i someone is actually making the case. i know— someone is actually making the case. i know it _ someone is actually making the case. i know it is _ someone is actually making the case. i know it is not well received at the cocktail party in polite society what _ the cocktail party in polite society what donald trump says and does. but for regular— what donald trump says and does. but for regular americans, they feel someone — for regular americans, they feel someone is fighting for them, someone _ someone is fighting for them, someone is fighting for them, someone is having their back when it comes— someone is having their back when it comes to _ someone is having their back when it comes to the economy and immigration.—

comes to the economy and immigration. comes to the economy and immiaration. �* . ., immigration. and i agree with that in the sense _ immigration. and i agree with that in the sense when _ immigration. and i agree with that in the sense when you _ immigration. and i agree with that in the sense when you look - immigration. and i agree with that in the sense when you look at - immigration. and i agree with that in the sense when you look at the | in the sense when you look at the demographics of his base and the non—educated white, that is demographics, they respond to that. when you talk to economists and business leaders, they are not buying what he's selling. why? because he inherited $300 million from his dad and declared six bankruptcies. as president, he had six years plus ofjobs growth and we had covid. but he also racked up the debt, $8 trillion. and as you know, thatis debt, $8 trillion. and as you know, that is a moral issue. when you have $35 trillion in debt, my daughter and my son, they owe $106,000, that is what every american owes, and we put interest on that as you know. that is immoral and we have to get back to balance budgets and fiscal discipline. donald trump didn't do it and i think with the republicans, with kamala harris, we will put our country back on track. that with kamala harris, we will put our country back on track.— country back on track. that has barely been — country back on track. that has barely been an _ country back on track. that has barely been an issue _ country back on track. that has barely been an issue in - country back on track. that has

barely been an issue in this - barely been an issue in this campaign _ barely been an issue in this campaign i— barely been an issue in this campaign iam— barely been an issue in this campaign. i am old - barely been an issue in this campaign. i am old enoughi barely been an issue in this . campaign. i am old enough to remember— campaign. i am old enough to rememberwhen_ campaign. i am old enough to rememberwhen your- campaign. i am old enough to remember when your position campaign. i am old enough to i remember when your position on campaign. i am old enough to - remember when your position on the deficit— remember when your position on the deficit was— remember when your position on the deficit was a — remember when your position on the deficit was a test _ remember when your position on the deficit was a test of— remember when your position on the deficit was a test of your _ deficit was a test of your patriotically _ deficit was a test of your patriotically defied - deficit was a test of your patriotically defied and l deficit was a test of your patriotically defied and i| deficit was a test of your - patriotically defied and i went to the dnc— patriotically defied and i went to the dnc in — patriotically defied and i went to the dnc in 2012 _ patriotically defied and i went to the dnc in 2012 and _ patriotically defied and i went to the dnc in 2012 and if— patriotically defied and i went to the dnc in 2012 and if you - patriotically defied and i went to the dnc in 2012 and if you werei patriotically defied and i went to i the dnc in 2012 and if you were not for reducing — the dnc in 2012 and if you were not for reducing the _ the dnc in 2012 and if you were not for reducing the deficit, _ the dnc in 2012 and if you were not for reducing the deficit, you are - for reducing the deficit, you are barely— for reducing the deficit, you are barely allowed _ for reducing the deficit, you are barely allowed into _ for reducing the deficit, you are barely allowed into the - for reducing the deficit, you are barely allowed into the party. i for reducing the deficit, you are i barely allowed into the party. this time around, _ barely allowed into the party. this time around, this— barely allowed into the party. this time around, this is— barely allowed into the party. this time around, this is another- barely allowed into the party. thisi time around, this is another model donatd _ time around, this is another model donald trump _ time around, this is another model donald trump is _ time around, this is another model donald trump is broken. _ time around, this is another model donald trump is broken. he - time around, this is another model donald trump is broken. he has i time around, this is another model. donald trump is broken. he has taken this issue _ donald trump is broken. he has taken this issue away — donald trump is broken. he has taken this issue away from _ donald trump is broken. he has taken this issue away from the _ donald trump is broken. he has taken this issue away from the american - this issue away from the american discourse~ — this issue away from the american discourse. nobody— this issue away from the american discourse. nobody is _ this issue away from the american discourse. nobody is talking - this issue away from the americani discourse. nobody is talking about reducing _ discourse. nobody is talking about reducing deficits. _ discourse. nobody is talking about reducing deficits. kamala - discourse. nobody is talking about reducing deficits. kamala harris. reducing deficits. kamala harris will drive — reducing deficits. kamala harris will drive up _ reducing deficits. kamala harris will drive up deficits, _ reducing deficits. kamala harris will drive up deficits, donald . reducing deficits. kamala harris- will drive up deficits, donald trump will drive up deficits, donald trump will drive _ will drive up deficits, donald trump will drive them _ will drive up deficits, donald trump will drive them up _ will drive up deficits, donald trump will drive them up even _ will drive up deficits, donald trump will drive them up even more, - will drive up deficits, donald trump will drive them up even more, it. will drive up deficits, donald trump will drive them up even more, it is| will drive them up even more, it is 'ust will drive them up even more, it is just not— will drive them up even more, it is just not even — will drive them up even more, it is just not even an _ will drive them up even more, it is just not even an issue _ will drive them up even more, it is just not even an issue in— will drive them up even more, it is just not even an issue in american| just not even an issue in american politics _ just not even an issue in american olitics. �* ., just not even an issue in american olitics. 1, , just not even an issue in american olitics. , ., ,, politics. both parties have spent like drunken _ politics. both parties have spent like drunken sailors. _ politics. both parties have spent. like drunken sailors. republicans. somethin: like drunken sailors. republicans. something they — like drunken sailors. republicans. something they share _ like drunken sailors. republicans. something they share in - like drunken sailors. republicans. | something they share in common, like drunken sailors. republicans. - something they share in common, how nice! , , , . nice! they spend too much! republicans _ nice! they spend too much! republicans have _ nice! they spend too much! republicans have lost - nice! they spend too much! - republicans have lost credibility on this. republicans have lost credibility on this we _ republicans have lost credibility on this. we are a long way from the discussion— this. we are a long way from the discussion we had with paul ryan's plan to— discussion we had with paul ryan's plan to get— discussion we had with paul ryan's plan to get us back on track and all of that, _ plan to get us back on track and all of that, we — plan to get us back on track and all of that, we have to get back to that _ of that, we have to get back to that 0r— of that, we have to get back to that. �* ., �* , of that, we have to get back to that. �* ., �*, , ., ., that. or bill clinton's plan for actually getting _ that. or bill clinton's plan for actually getting you - that. or bill clinton's plan for actually getting you back. - that. or bill clinton's plan for. actually getting you back. that's ri . ht. actually getting you back. that's riuht. bill actually getting you back. that's right. bill clinton _ actually getting you back. that's right. bill clinton and _ actually getting you back. that's right. bill clinton and dwight- right. bill clinton and dwight eisenhower are the only two that brought it down and we have to get

back to that. when you have mike mullen saying the thing that keeps him up at night, the greatest threat to american security is the national debt and he said it when i would debt and he said it when i would debt was $12.5 trillion, it is now $35 trillion. it debt was $12.5 trillion, it is now $35 trillion.— $35 trillion. it is stunning the de . ree $35 trillion. it is stunning the degree to — $35 trillion. it is stunning the degree to which _ $35 trillion. it is stunning the degree to which it _ $35 trillion. it is stunning the degree to which it has - $35 trillion. it is stunning the - degree to which it has disappeared from the _ degree to which it has disappeared from the conversation. _ degree to which it has disappeared from the conversation. why- degree to which it has disappeared from the conversation. why is - degree to which it has disappeared. from the conversation. why is that? because _ from the conversation. why is that? because everybody _ from the conversation. why is that? because everybody has _ from the conversation. why is that? because everybody has spent. - from the conversation. why is that? i because everybody has spent. barack 0bama _ because everybody has spent. barack 0bama after — because everybody has spent. barack 0bama after the _ because everybody has spent. barack obama after the 2008 _ because everybody has spent. barack obama after the 2008 financial- because everybody has spent. barack obama after the 2008 financial crash| obama after the 2008 financial crash had to— obama after the 2008 financial crash had to pump — obama after the 2008 financial crash had to pump lots _ obama after the 2008 financial crash had to pump lots of— obama after the 2008 financial crash had to pump lots of money _ obama after the 2008 financial crash had to pump lots of money into - obama after the 2008 financial crash had to pump lots of money into the l had to pump lots of money into the american _ had to pump lots of money into the american economy. _ had to pump lots of money into the american economy. donald - had to pump lots of money into the american economy. donald trumpi had to pump lots of money into the . american economy. donald trump cut taxes _ american economy. donald trump cut taxes and _ american economy. donald trump cut taxes and again — american economy. donald trump cut taxes and again spent _ american economy. donald trump cut taxes and again spent money- american economy. donald trump cut taxes and again spent money on - american economy. donald trump cut taxes and again spent money on the l taxes and again spent money on the economy— taxes and again spent money on the economy with — taxes and again spent money on the economy with the _ taxes and again spent money on the economy with the covid _ taxes and again spent money on the economy with the covid crisis. - taxes and again spent money on the economy with the covid crisis. joe i economy with the covid crisis. joe biden— economy with the covid crisis. joe biden the — economy with the covid crisis. joe biden the same. _ economy with the covid crisis. joe biden the same. there _ economy with the covid crisis. joe biden the same. there has- economy with the covid crisis. joe biden the same. there has not. economy with the covid crisis. joe i biden the same. there has not been economy with the covid crisis. joe - biden the same. there has not been a president _ biden the same. there has not been a president literally— biden the same. there has not been a president literally since _ biden the same. there has not been a president literally since bill— president literally since bill clinton _ president literally since bill clinton who— president literally since bill clinton who has _ president literally since bill clinton who has decided - president literally since bill clinton who has decided to| president literally since bill. clinton who has decided to try president literally since bill- clinton who has decided to try and balance _ clinton who has decided to try and balance america's _ clinton who has decided to try and balance america's budgets. - clinton who has decided to try andl balance america's budgets. george bosh had _ balance america's budgets. george bosh had was — balance america's budgets. george bosh had was and _ balance america's budgets. george bosh had was and that _ balance america's budgets. george bosh had was and that drove - balance america's budgets. george bosh had was and that drove it - balance america's budgets. george bosh had was and that drove it up.| bosh had was and that drove it up. we have _ bosh had was and that drove it up. we have such _ bosh had was and that drove it up. we have such a _ bosh had was and that drove it up. we have such a long _ bosh had was and that drove it up. we have such a long way— bosh had was and that drove it up. we have such a long way to - bosh had was and that drove it up. we have such a long way to go - bosh had was and that drove it up. i we have such a long way to go from bob dole _ we have such a long way to go from bob dole being one vote shy in the 1980s _ bob dole being one vote shy in the 1980s to— bob dole being one vote shy in the 1980s to pass a balanced budget amendment. you're right about george bush, _ amendment. you're right about george bush, medicare on the credit card, there _ bush, medicare on the credit card, there was— bush, medicare on the credit card, there was no plan to pay for so

much — there was no plan to pay for so much. it— there was no plan to pay for so much. ., , ., ., , much. it does get to a bigger icture, much. it does get to a bigger picture, donald _ much. it does get to a bigger picture, donald trump's - much. it does get to a bigger. picture, donald trump's almost intuitive — picture, donald trump's almost intuitive understanding - picture, donald trump's almost intuitive understanding of- picture, donald trump's almost| intuitive understanding of where picture, donald trump's almost - intuitive understanding of where the american _ intuitive understanding of where the american electorate _ intuitive understanding of where the american electorate is. _ intuitive understanding of where the american electorate is. republicans| american electorate is. republicans barack— american electorate is. republicans barack 0bama's_ american electorate is. republicans barack obama's era _ american electorate is. republicans barack obama's era felt _ american electorate is. republicans barack obama's era felt the - american electorate is. republicans. barack obama's era felt the american conservative — barack obama's era felt the american conservative voters _ barack obama's era felt the american conservative voters cared _ barack obama's era felt the american conservative voters cared about - conservative voters cared about deficits — conservative voters cared about deficits they— conservative voters cared about deficits. they wanted _ conservative voters cared about deficits. they wanted a - conservative voters cared about deficits. they wanted a social. deficits. they wanted a social welfare — deficits. they wanted a social welfare net~ _ deficits. they wanted a social welfare net. they— deficits. they wanted a social welfare net. they wanted - deficits. they wanted a social- welfare net. they wanted medicare, they wanted — welfare net. they wanted medicare, they wanted medicaid _ welfare net. they wanted medicare, they wanted medicaid and _ welfare net. they wanted medicare, they wanted medicaid and social- they wanted medicaid and social security— they wanted medicaid and social security and _ they wanted medicaid and social security and donald _ they wanted medicaid and social security and donald trump - they wanted medicaid and social- security and donald trump understood cutting _ security and donald trump understood cutting those — security and donald trump understood cutting those programmes _ security and donald trump understood cutting those programmes would - security and donald trump understood cutting those programmes would be i cutting those programmes would be bad for— cutting those programmes would be bad for him — cutting those programmes would be bad for him electorally _ cutting those programmes would be bad for him electorally and - cutting those programmes would be bad for him electorally and bad - cutting those programmes would be bad for him electorally and bad for. bad for him electorally and bad for american — bad for him electorally and bad for american workers _ bad for him electorally and bad for american workers and _ bad for him electorally and bad for american workers and he - bad for him electorally and bad for american workers and he broke i bad for him electorally and bad for. american workers and he broke that modet~ _ american workers and he broke that modet~ we — american workers and he broke that modet~ we have _ american workers and he broke that model. we have been— american workers and he broke that model. we have been talking - american workers and he broke that model. we have been talking about| model. we have been talking about how donald — model. we have been talking about how donald trump _ model. we have been talking about how donald trump breaks - model. we have been talking about how donald trump breaks the - model. we have been talking about. how donald trump breaks the model, that was— how donald trump breaks the model, that was another— how donald trump breaks the model, that was another model _ how donald trump breaks the model, that was another model donald - how donald trump breaks the model, | that was another model donald trump broke _ that was another model donald trump broke. he— that was another model donald trump broke. ., ~ , , that was another model donald trump broke. . ,, , , ., that was another model donald trump broke. .~ , , ., , that was another model donald trump broke. , . broke. he makes his own playbook. we do have some — broke. he makes his own playbook. we do have some key _ broke. he makes his own playbook. we do have some key projections - broke. he makes his own playbook. we do have some key projections now- broke. he makes his own playbook. we do have some key projections now to i do have some key projections now to bring to you. we do have one to bring you, a midwestern state we can show you at this hour. look at this. illinois, the state projected for kamala harris with its 19 electoral votes. illinois is a democrat state, president obama's home state. one of

the great american cities, the city of chicago. illinois projected for kamala harris. let's look at where we are now on the numbers. kamala harris with that victory in illinois comes up to 81 electoral votes, donald trump remains with 162. they are getting a little bit closer as we are edging closer towards that 270 number as the evening goes on and more results coming. let's go back to christian. he has information coming in from georgia that he has been looking at. mt; information coming in from georgia that he has been looking at. my map is fillin: that he has been looking at. my map is filling with — that he has been looking at. my map is filling with colour. _ that he has been looking at. my map is filling with colour. you _ that he has been looking at. my map is filling with colour. you have - is filling with colour. you have just painted illinois blue and my screen is starting to reflect that. the last time a republican won the popular vote in a presidential election, 2004, george w wash. the polls had the national vote neck and neckin polls had the national vote neck and neck in the last polls when the campaign ends —— george w bush. we are looking in the south at our swing states. particularly georgia

where they have around 77%. what am i seeing? i where they have around 77%. what am iseeing? i havejust where they have around 77%. what am i seeing? i havejust been going around the map and in those pivot counties, the counties that twice voted for obama like peach county and then went twice for donald trump, he's getting 1% or 2% more out of these counties. peach. twiggs. dooley. baker down here. 1% or 2% more, so squeezing more out of the smaller rural conservative areas. i told you at the beginning of the night this is a simple game of the night this is a simple game of maths. if you are the republicans, you have to get more out of this confluence of counties in the bottom of the map. so you can add out your vote and offset what democrats are doing in these metro and suburban areas. in terms of what kamala harris is doing in and around the atlanta metro, this is 60% of the atlanta metro, this is 60% of the vote state—wide. she really is

keeping track with where joe the vote state—wide. she really is keeping track with wherejoe biden was 2020, which really was the game for her. fulton county is one of the biggest and you can see she is ahead of him. she is also ahead of him in rockdale as well. let me show you this. rockdale. 73 is the margin. and you can see 69 back in 2020. so there is still a lot of vote to come in, but state—wide, she still trailing at 52 to 47. democrats will be watching very closely at this area around atlanta. let's look at north carolina, 62% of the vote now, this is the biggest county. 76% of the vote counted. again, she's quite close to where joe the vote counted. again, she's quite close to wherejoe biden was. a similar race in north carolina so we will keep an eye on where it is going. will keep an eye on where it is anoin. ., ~ will keep an eye on where it is main, ., will keep an eye on where it is anoin. . ,, i. will keep an eye on where it is anoin. ., ~' . will keep an eye on where it is anoin. . . ., , going. thank you so much, really interesting _ going. thank you so much, really interesting information. - going. thank you so much, really interesting information. north i interesting information. north carolina with christian. let's go to

the state, helena humphrey is there. what is the latest you are seeing at your watch party? it is certainly a festive environment you can see behind me. i am at the republican women's party in the country club, when i speak to people they it is just a case of waiting and being patient. they believe the campaign has done everything they possibly can and there is a really high level of voter engagement in this state when it comes to early voting. over 57%, a record in the united states. at in terms of some of the key results, important to stress it is too close to call right now and too early to say anything harder than fast when it comes to north carolina but we always have these areas we watch very carefully as christian was just mentioning, and one is nash county.

because in the past three election cycles it has voted in the way it has gone in the presidential race. 88% of votes counted and what we can see at the moment and not a definitive result but donald trump leading. back in 2020 we saw definitive result but donald trump leading. back in 2020 we sanoe biden with a strong margin of about 100,000 votes so we will have to see whether kamala harris starts to make up whether kamala harris starts to make up some ground. one of the other learning questions in this election is the race for the governor. we now know the democratjosh steen taking that race over the low tenant general mark robinson, the republican candidate, echoing the previous projection we saw and it shows you the back and forth why north carolina is purple with the democratic governor. the democrats trying to make inroads and i have been speaking to but some of my sources about this including a democratic county chair mike mcmahon

asking what he made of that result and he said it is giving him cause to continue to be hopeful tonight for the harris campaign and also saying this shows that north carolina wants what he says is a serious person in charge of the state, so we will have to continue to see if that is reflected overall. butjosh steyn has been giving a speech and he says he thinks his victory is reflective of women wanting control of their bodies. but it is a toss up here and i have been speaking to republican women about that and they say other issues are important for them as well. inflation, crime, immigration and so on, just showing how diverse and polarised this country and this state continues to be.- polarised this country and this state continues to be. thank you, 'ust state continues to be. thank you, just looking _ state continues to be. thank you, just looking at — state continues to be. thank you, just looking at those _ state continues to be. thank you, just looking at those numbers - state continues to be. thank you, just looking at those numbers on | state continues to be. thank you, i just looking at those numbers on our screen of north carolina.

immigration and the southern border have been some of the biggest issues of the campaign. immigration is a central topic of mrtrump's campaign. he says if he wins, he will carry out "the largest deportation operation in american history", calling the us an "occupied country". he also promised to close the border on day one. while in office, mr trump faced criticism for some of his immigration policies, like separating migrant children from their parents and authorising several travel bans. mr trump also vowed to build a wall along the roughly 2,000—mile us—mexico border as president, but only roughly 85 miles of entirely new sections of wall was put up during his term in office. ms harris calls immigration a "serious challenge". she says she will work to remove those who arrive in the us unlawfully, prosecute the cartels and give border patrol more support. ms harris also said she wants to work with congress on immigration reform, including an earned path to citizenship for "hard—working immigrants like farm workers".

we can talk about this a little bit more and go to texas. we can speak to monica dela cruz. just talking about immigration and all of that, how big of an issue do you think this has been right across country? i you think this has been right across count ? ., , you think this has been right across count ? . , ,., country? i am here in the deep south texas on the — country? i am here in the deep south texas on the border _ country? i am here in the deep south texas on the border of _ country? i am here in the deep south texas on the border of texas - country? i am here in the deep south texas on the border of texas and - texas on the border of texas and mexico _ texas on the border of texas and mexico where over 90% of our population is hispanic. and i will tell you — population is hispanic. and i will tell you it— population is hispanic. and i will tell you it is one of the top two issues — tell you it is one of the top two issues in — tell you it is one of the top two issues in our community. hispanics are sick— issues in our community. hispanics are sick of— issues in our community. hispanics are sick of the open borders by the biden— are sick of the open borders by the biden and — are sick of the open borders by the biden and harris administration. they— biden and harris administration. they are — biden and harris administration. they are sick and tired of women being _ they are sick and tired of women being exploited by the cartel due to the open _ being exploited by the cartel due to the open borders, by the biden harris —

the open borders, by the biden harris administration, and they want to know— harris administration, and they want to know where the lost children are from _ to know where the lost children are from the _ to know where the lost children are from the biden harris administration. it is unacceptable and i_ administration. it is unacceptable and i think— administration. it is unacceptable and i think by the end of the night they will— and i think by the end of the night they will re—elect the president donald — they will re—elect the president donald trump. they will re-elect the president donald trump.— donald trump. and talk to is a little bit about _ donald trump. and talk to is a little bit about why _ donald trump. and talk to is a little bit about why you - donald trump. and talk to is a little bit about why you feel i donald trump. and talk to is a little bit about why you feel it| donald trump. and talk to is a | little bit about why you feel it is motivating voters that they are. we have heard about the pressure that emigration particularly in border communities looks on the people working there. we saw the border patrol union endorsed donald trump. hispanics believe in law and order. they— hispanics believe in law and order. they want— hispanics believe in law and order. they want immigration but they want people _ they want immigration but they want people to _ they want immigration but they want people to come the legal way. what has happened under the biden administration is chaos at our southern _ administration is chaos at our southern border. it has put a great strain— southern border. it has put a great strain on— southern border. it has put a great strain on their communities. not only our— strain on their communities. not only our hospitals but our law enforcement as well. i believe that this is— enforcement as well. i believe that this is why— enforcement as well. i believe that this is why hispanics are trending

towards — this is why hispanics are trending towards president trump's border policy _ towards president trump's border policy. they want safety, they want security _ policy. they want safety, they want security. they want to live in a nation — security. they want to live in a nation that _ security. they want to live in a nation that is secure and that will happen— nation that is secure and that will happen under president donald trump. democrats _ happen under president donald trump. democrats would say that it is former president donald trump who put an end to a bipartisan immigration bill that came through congress a few months ago and that the fault lay at his feet.— the fault lay at his feet. democrats continue to — the fault lay at his feet. democrats continue to gaslight _ the fault lay at his feet. democrats continue to gaslight americans. i the fault lay at his feet. democrats l continue to gaslight americans. they know well— continue to gaslight americans. they know well that in the house we passed — know well that in the house we passed lee secure the border act, hr two, passed lee secure the border act, hr two. over— passed lee secure the border act, hr two. over a _ passed lee secure the border act, hr two, over a year ago. passed lee secure the border act, hr two, overa yearago. it passed lee secure the border act, hr two, over a year ago. it is the strongest _ two, over a year ago. it is the strongest piece of border legislation ever passed by the house — legislation ever passed by the house. the senate is the one who has failed _ house. the senate is the one who has failed to— house. the senate is the one who has failed to pass anything on their side, _ failed to pass anything on their side, so — failed to pass anything on their side, so in _ failed to pass anything on their side, so in the house, we are working — side, so in the house, we are working hard and we want to secure a border— working hard and we want to secure a border and _ working hard and we want to secure a border and i_ working hard and we want to secure a border and i believe under president donald _ border and i believe under president donald trump we will accomplish this _ donald trump we will accomplish this. , ., ~ donald trump we will accomplish this. , ., ,, .,

donald trump we will accomplish this. , ., ,, . , this. lets talk about the policies we have heard _ this. lets talk about the policies we have heard from _ this. lets talk about the policies we have heard from frommer i this. lets talk about the policies - we have heard from frommer president trump. he has talked about the mass deportation plan. how do you carry out a plan that could involve deporting 10 million people from this country?— deporting 10 million people from this count ? , ., ., ., this country? first we have to agree that we need _ this country? first we have to agree that we need to _ this country? first we have to agree that we need to get _ this country? first we have to agree that we need to get rid _ this country? first we have to agree that we need to get rid of _ this country? first we have to agree that we need to get rid of all - this country? first we have to agree that we need to get rid of all of - that we need to get rid of all of the criminals. criminals who have raped _ the criminals. criminals who have raped and — the criminals. criminals who have raped and murdered young women all across— raped and murdered young women all across this _ raped and murdered young women all across this country. that is where we need — across this country. that is where we need to— across this country. that is where we need to start this deportation is with criminals to get them out of our country— with criminals to get them out of our country and i stand by donald trump _ our country and i stand by donald trump we — our country and i stand by donald trump. we need to deport criminals who are _ trump. we need to deport criminals who are terrorising our american cities _ who are terrorising our american cities. ., who are terrorising our american cities. . ., ., , ., . . cities. thanks for 'oining us on bbc news. we can speak to democrat congressman joaquin castro also from the state of texas. great to see you again. i will ask you about immigration and the moment but tell us what things are like right now.—

are like right now. everyone is excited, obviously _ are like right now. everyone is excited, obviously very - are like right now. everyone is i excited, obviously veryjubilant, excited, obviously very jubilant, people — excited, obviously veryjubilant, people worked so hard to get here, so it is— people worked so hard to get here, so it is an _ people worked so hard to get here, so it is an exciting night. she is ahead — so it is an exciting night. she is ahead in— so it is an exciting night. she is ahead in key states in pennsylvania and wisconsin and a few others so everyone — and wisconsin and a few others so everyone is— and wisconsin and a few others so everyone is very helpful. want and wisconsin and a few others so everyone is very helpful.— everyone is very helpful. want to hear our everyone is very helpful. want to hear your comments _ everyone is very helpful. want to hear your comments on - everyone is very helpful. want to - hear your comments on congressman dela cruz, talking about the biden harris administration's failed border policy. do you think this is going to be one of the main driving issues for voters? the going to be one of the main driving issues for voters?— issues for voters? the issue of the border and — issues for voters? the issue of the border and immigration _ issues for voters? the issue of the border and immigration are - issues for voters? the issue of the i border and immigration are always among _ border and immigration are always among the — border and immigration are always among the thorniest issues in american _ among the thorniest issues in american politics and they have been for a very— american politics and they have been for a very long time but when you look for a very long time but when you took at _ for a very long time but when you look at what donald trump did as president. — look at what donald trump did as president, he purposely separated young _ president, he purposely separated young boys and girls from their mothers — young boys and girls from their mothers and fathers and he has also

promised _ mothers and fathers and he has also promised to— mothers and fathers and he has also promised to campaign mass deportation. two times in american history— deportation. two times in american history that — deportation. two times in american history that has happened and had a significant _ history that has happened and had a significant impact on latinos and specifically mexican in texas, and in those _ specifically mexican in texas, and in those two times the row over1 million _ in those two times the row over1 million american citizens, not undocumented immigrants, american citizens— undocumented immigrants, american citizens who were deported. that is what donald trump is promising. i assure _ what donald trump is promising. i assure you — what donald trump is promising. i assure you there will be people that if donald _ assure you there will be people that if donald trump is somehow able to win tonight — if donald trump is somehow able to win tonight there will be people in the rio— win tonight there will be people in the rio grande valley who will be wrapped — the rio grande valley who will be wrapped up in that. just the rio grande valley who will be wrapped up in that.— wrapped up in that. just one cuestion wrapped up in that. just one question on _ wrapped up in that. just one question on that _ wrapped up in that. just one question on that because i wrapped up in that. just one | question on that because the wrapped up in that. just one - question on that because the point the congress women from texas was saying is that it is under the biden harris administration that we are seeing record crossings across the southern border and people don't trust kamala harris on this issue. i trust kamala harris on this issue. i think what you have seen is the numbers— think what you have seen is the numbers actually go down very dramatically, and kamala harris

during _ dramatically, and kamala harris during her— dramatically, and kamala harris during hertime as dramatically, and kamala harris during her time as vice president work— during her time as vice president work to— during her time as vice president work to get at the root causes because — work to get at the root causes because this is notjust that people show— because this is notjust that people show up _ because this is notjust that people show up at — because this is notjust that people show up at the border because they are going _ show up at the border because they are going to disneyland, there are causes _ are going to disneyland, there are causes of— are going to disneyland, there are causes of poverty, drug gangs terrorising people in those countries, so she has pledged to make _ countries, so she has pledged to make sure — countries, so she has pledged to make sure that we work on the root causes _ make sure that we work on the root causes so _ make sure that we work on the root causes so that people don't have to feel that _ causes so that people don't have to feel that they have to play their home _ feel that they have to play their home land. feel that they have to play their home land-— feel that they have to play their home land. , , ., ., ., home land. crossings have gone down in the last month _ home land. crossings have gone down in the last month because _ home land. crossings have gone down in the last month because joe - home land. crossings have gone down in the last month because joe biden i in the last month becausejoe biden signed an executive order injune and republicans would say why did he not take action before then, why did kamala harris not take action before then, and accused him of electioneering? this then, and accused him of electioneering?— then, and accused him of electioneering? then, and accused him of electioneerina? a ,, ., electioneering? as you know he absolutely _ electioneering? as you know he absolutely tried _ electioneering? as you know he absolutely tried and _ electioneering? as you know he absolutely tried and donald - electioneering? as you know he i absolutely tried and donald trump spiked _ absolutely tried and donald trump spiked the bipartisan border bill that was— spiked the bipartisan border bill that was worked on in the senate, and they— that was worked on in the senate, and they want to do that because republicans use this as they are number— republicans use this as they are number one became an issue. they use this issue _ number one became an issue. they use this issue to— number one became an issue. they use this issue to scare americans, to rile this issue to scare americans, to rite people — this issue to scare americans, to rile people up, to make them resent

and fear— rile people up, to make them resent and fear in _ rile people up, to make them resent and fear in politics. we rile people up, to make them resent and fear in politics.— and fear in politics. we will leave ou to and fear in politics. we will leave you to boogie-woogie, _ and fear in politics. we will leave you to boogie-woogie, getting i and fear in politics. we will leave i you to boogie-woogie, getting very you to boogie—woogie, getting very noisy at the party behind you. thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news. we can go across to our colleague at bbc verify who has some more news for us. ., , ., for us. you might remember that earlier i for us. you might remember that earlier l was _ for us. you might remember that earlier i was making _ for us. you might remember that earlier i was making some - for us. you might remember that earlier i was making some claims made _ earlier i was making some claims made by— earlier i was making some claims made by donald trump posted on through— made by donald trump posted on through to social. he was talking about— through to social. he was talking about how — through to social. he was talking about how there had been massive cheating _ about how there had been massive cheating in— about how there had been massive cheating in philadelphia and he has now repeated that claim in reference to other _ now repeated that claim in reference to other locations. as was the case before _ to other locations. as was the case before without evidence to support it right _ before without evidence to support it right now. quite a lot of discussion notjust it right now. quite a lot of discussion not just today but over the last— discussion not just today but over the last few days of where some of the last few days of where some of the allegations of voter fraud are coming _ the allegations of voter fraud are coming from because they are not 'ust coming from because they are not just coming from truth social or donald — just coming from truth social or donald trump but from all over the place _ donald trump but from all over the place x— donald trump but from all over the place. x which used to be called twitter— place. x which used to be called twitter has become a focal point for these _ twitter has become a focal point for these allegations. some concern about— these allegations. some concern about foreign interference, about accounts — about foreign interference, about accounts that appear to be linked to russia _ accounts that appear to be linked to

russia that — accounts that appear to be linked to russia that have promoted videos that are _ russia that have promoted videos that are fake or false, making allegations of voter fraud. but a lot of— allegations of voter fraud. but a lot of allegations of voter fraud without — lot of allegations of voter fraud without evidence to back it up and i have found — without evidence to back it up and i have found accounts that are based in the _ have found accounts that are based in the us, — have found accounts that are based in the us, people that have managed to make _ in the us, people that have managed to make some money from this. they told me _ to make some money from this. they told me they— to make some money from this. they told me they have made thousands of dollars _ told me they have made thousands of dollars on— told me they have made thousands of dollars on x— told me they have made thousands of dollars on x from sharing this kind of content — dollars on x from sharing this kind of content i— dollars on x from sharing this kind of content. i reached out to x about whether _ of content. i reached out to x about whether they are incentivising users to post _ whether they are incentivising users to post in _ whether they are incentivising users to post in this way and they didn't -et to post in this way and they didn't get back— to post in this way and they didn't get back to — to post in this way and they didn't get back to me. another interesting thin- get back to me. another interesting thing to— get back to me. another interesting thing to talk about this evening has been the _ thing to talk about this evening has been the cbs exit poll. a lot of concern — been the cbs exit poll. a lot of concern from voters that were surveyed _ concern from voters that were surveyed about the state of democracy, cited as one of the big issues _ democracy, cited as one of the big issues they— democracy, cited as one of the big issues they cared about when voting. some _ issues they cared about when voting. some reaction that it could favour kamala _ some reaction that it could favour kamala harris but a lot of donald trump _ kamala harris but a lot of donald trump supporters online, and i investigate a lot what people see on their feeds, investigate a lot what people see on theirfeeds, see investigate a lot what people see on their feeds, see information that is worried _ their feeds, see information that is worried about democracy, often

unfounded, but has dented their trust _ unfounded, but has dented their trust in — unfounded, but has dented their trust in how the whole process works — trust in how the whole process works. and interesting to see the concern _ works. and interesting to see the concern people have about the risk of violence. — concern people have about the risk of violence, seven out of ten people surveyed _ of violence, seven out of ten people surveyed in — of violence, seven out of ten people surveyed in exit polls suggested they were worried about that, and it tells is _ they were worried about that, and it tells is a _ they were worried about that, and it tells is a lot— they were worried about that, and it tells is a lot about four years, some — tells is a lot about four years, some of— tells is a lot about four years, some of the abuse of language and some _ some of the abuse of language and some of— some of the abuse of language and some of the abuse of language and some of the conversation around democracy— some of the conversation around democracy could tip into something that is— democracy could tip into something that is not— democracy could tip into something that is not so good in real life. another— that is not so good in real life. another thing to counter all of that is the _ another thing to counter all of that is the indication so far that turnout _ is the indication so far that turnout is really healthy, it has been _ turnout is really healthy, it has been high, and it suggests there is still some — been high, and it suggests there is still some faith in democracy so for all of— still some faith in democracy so for all of the _ still some faith in democracy so for all of the social media world i spend — all of the social media world i spend a — all of the social media world i spend a lot of my time investigating, there are people who are trusting the polls, at least right— are trusting the polls, at least right now, and want to go and vote. reatty— right now, and want to go and vote. really interesting, thank you for bringing us that information and at this point of the evening as we see polls close any number of states it is important to look at those allegations and our partners at cbs news have said the city commissioner in philadelphia has rebuked former

president donald trump's claim that massive cheating is happening in that city of philadelphia. the city commissioner who has a republican said there is absolutely no truth to this allegation. so that some of the response we are seeing to the allegations that marianna mentioned, and important to note this is coming from philadelphia city officials themselves, a republican city commissioner, so we will continue to watch that and we have heard of cases in arizona and also in pennsylvania where some polling locations are extending their hours. not because of irregularities but because there are so many people turning up to vote and they have so many people waiting in line so we will keep our eye on that, but we are now going to get ready for another big moment. we have had a few of these already tonight and we have been able to tell you about polls closing on a number of states and key swing states. we are just coming up on another one of those key moments that will give is again a better idea of that past 274 both

kamala and donald trump. it's 10pm here in washington, 3am in london, and polls have now closed in montana, utah and the crucial swing state of nevada. together, those states make up 16 electoral votes. a presidential candidate needs 270 votes to win the white house. nevada, the pulse ofjust close, that's one of the seven swing states we have been watching. democrats have actually won that in the past two cycles, joe biden and hillary clinton both won it. it's the other one of these seven states that donald trump didn't win in 2016. —— is the only one. he is trying to turn that around from the past two residential cycles. it was massively impacted by cover, high unemployment

at one point. we can make one project from the bowls that are close, utah is projected as a win for donald trump. the sixth electoral votes it counts. despite the six. add montana is projected as a win for donald trump. four electoral votes. what impact does that have on the path to the presidency? we can see donald trump one 172 and kamala harris on 81. it does look there like donald trump is racing towards 270, but again, as we have been saying, the way things work in the us, the polls close across this great country at different times. there are polls to openin different times. there are polls to open in california which is a big democrat leading state. we hope that will make a difference for kamala harris later. nevada, that swing state, is too early to project,

recently don't have information to bring to you on that and it will be a very close one if the polls have been right in the run—up to this day. let's have a look at how the campaigns are reacting to the night so far. we have similar hussein abdi kahin the harris headquarters at howard university. —— samira hussain. an gary o'donoghue is in west palm beach, florida. samira, it's been a rowdy night so far, lots of music, singing and dancing, how are things there at the moment? exactly what you said earlier, it crystallises how people are feeling now. it is still really early in the game. a lot of people i have been speaking to remain very optimistic. they have kind of challenged a little bit of that optimism, are

they generallyjust happy optimistic people? one woman was very sweet, she took a moment and said, regardless of the outcome, i am still going to be positive, regardless of what happens in this election. it highlights just how close this election is and also just how partisan politics has become in america. for her, this idea that regardless of the outcome, there is still going to be positivity in the country, was very important. of course, whether or not we are listening to results coming, this jovial, clublike atmosphere continues.— jovial, clublike atmosphere continues. ~ . continues. we will check back with ou in continues. we will check back with you in a little _ continues. we will check back with you in a little while. _ continues. we will check back with you in a little while. let's - continues. we will check back with you in a little while. let's go - continues. we will check back with you in a little while. let's go to i you in a little while. let's go to gary in florida. what are things like there? tbs, gary in florida. what are things like there?— gary in florida. what are things like there? . ., ., . like there? a lot of excitement in the room here, _ like there? a lot of excitement in the room here, the crowd - like there? a lot of excitement in the room here, the crowd are - the room here, the crowd are starting — the room here, the crowd are starting to see some of the numbers on the _ starting to see some of the numbers on the screen. they are very excited

about _ on the screen. they are very excited about the _ on the screen. they are very excited about the numbers in virginia in particular. — about the numbers in virginia in particular, where the race could be closer than— particular, where the race could be closer than it was last time when it went— closer than it was last time when it went to _ closer than it was last time when it went tojoe biden. they closer than it was last time when it went to joe biden. they were cheering _ went to joe biden. they were cheering along when they saw the recent— cheering along when they saw the recent vote count numbers in north carolina _ recent vote count numbers in north carolina. anderson big cheers earlier— carolina. anderson big cheers earlier in— carolina. anderson big cheers earlier in the evening —— and there were— earlier in the evening —— and there were some — earlier in the evening —— and there were some pictures earlier —— are some big — were some pictures earlier —— are some big cheers. i was speaking to some _ some big cheers. i was speaking to some people here, special guests down _ some people here, special guests down the — some people here, special guests down the back of the room drinking wine and _ down the back of the room drinking wine and beer, there was a group of bikers _ wine and beer, there was a group of bikers fortrump, wine and beer, there was a group of bikers for trump, they were looking forward _ bikers for trump, they were looking forward to— bikers for trump, they were looking forward to the night, a group of women — forward to the night, a group of women in sparklyjackets who said that donald trump was going to make america _ that donald trump was going to make america sparkle again and they were treating _ america sparkle again and they were treating this like their christmas, they said — treating this like their christmas, they said. some children here too, there _ they said. some children here too, there was a — they said. some children here too, there was a chap with a young child, 15 months old, running around having a lot of excitement. even somebody with a _ a lot of excitement. even somebody with a baby— a lot of excitement. even somebody with a baby in a stroller. so a lot of atmosphere growing here as you

could _ of atmosphere growing here as you could expect. they have been buoyed by some _ could expect. they have been buoyed by some of— could expect. they have been buoyed by some of the vote counts they are seeing _ by some of the vote counts they are seeing on screen. you may have noticed — seeing on screen. you may have noticed behind me, there are actually— noticed behind me, there are actually showing cnn here, which is slightly— actually showing cnn here, which is slightly anomalous. they were showing fox news earlier but they switched, — showing fox news earlier but they switched, i think donald trump described them once as the enemy of the people! they are here in trump headquarters tonight on the big screen — headquarters tonight on the big screen. get headquarters tonight on the big screen. , ., a ., ., screen. get them to flick over to bbc news _ screen. get them to flick over to bbc news and — screen. get them to flick over to bbc news and they _ screen. get them to flick over to bbc news and they can - screen. get them to flick over to bbc news and they can all - screen. get them to flick over to bbc news and they can all tune l screen. get them to flick over to i bbc news and they can all tune in! enjoy the party, we will speak to you and sammy ran a little later. of course we have been watching these swing states on it, they are the ones that are going to make the difference to the two candidates, and biggest of all, pennsylvania. it looks like it is going to be many hours before we have any results from there but you never know, anything can happen in american politics and this he has proved that like no other year. let's go to pennsylvania now. tom bateman is there. tom, what is the latest air, tom, what is the latest there. tom, what is the latest air, what are you hearing about how the what are you hearing about how the

counting is growing in pennsylvania? counting is growing in pennsylvania? as you say, the polls closed a couple of hours ago, and the counting is well and truly under way but as you say, we do expect not just a very long night but a very long few days potentially if the last election is anything to go by. and also because ofjust how close opinion polls have been in this state. but we can talk about the results so far according to a record of the votes counted, putting kamala harris on 51.6%, donald trump on 47.4% so she is ahead as i say, just a third of the votes counted, that is pretty meaningless and largely because the mail—in ballots, the postal votes tend to lean towards democrats, disproportionately so. so we can't election, because

fact that last election, because of the numbers of mail—in votes, well over 2 million, about 2.5 million, that created this space when there was a delay in counting those in which donald trump alleged without evidence that there was a rigged system here in pennsylvania. what i have sensed throughout the course of the day is determined operation by officials from the district attorney's office right up to the governor and the city commissioners to try and put a sort of firewall around the process, to show that they are looking into any evidence whatsoever and debunking it. as i say, before any allegations like this that they have treated fairly and properly but there were not going to put up was what the district attorney described earlier as any crazy nonsense, about fraud in the count.

as any crazy nonsense, about fraud in the count-— in the count. tom, thanks for that, we will check in _ in the count. tom, thanks for that, we will check in with you _ in the count. tom, thanks for that, we will check in with you later- we will check in with you later to see how things are going. we have another projection to bring you now. let's see what we can tell you. mississippi is projected as a win for donald trump with six electoral votes. one of those reliably red states, one that donald trump will have been counting on. you can see there, it brings donald trump up to 178, kamala harris on 81. so still quite a way for both of them to go. we will see what happens as the night progresses. we were talking about pennsylvania, another key state we are watching is wisconsin, right up there in the same part of the country. we can speak now to the former lieutenant governor. thanks former lieutenant governor. thanks forjoining us. talk to us a little about what you're seeing in

wisconsin today, how the votes are being counted. there has been some controversy about a recount of about 30,000 votes because you'll of course, thank you so much. wisconsin is always very close to state. i have been on both sides of close elections. in have been on both sides of close elections. :: ' j~ have been on both sides of close elections. :: ' j~ ., , have been on both sides of close elections. ::'j~ ., , . ., elections. in 2018! was elected to the elections. in 20181 was elected to the office of— elections. in 2018! was elected to | the office of lieutenant governor, it was about 1% race, i lost my place in the senate two years ago, it was about 1%. so boats are still coming in. we are pleased with what we have been saying, as far as milwaukee and the controversy you are talking about, i can guarantee things are being sorted out. the chair of the republican party has stated it was not malfeasance, it was a small error and then shall be resolved. but as we know, counting of the ballots will go late into the night. i havejust had my energy drink and i'm ready to wait this thing out. at our programme here on the ground has been unlike anything else. voters of milwaukee have been

enthusiastic and they have turned out in early voting record numbers. i was covering a senate race in 2022 and i remember well that huge campaign especially among the black voter groups in the woki and i remember the time, democrats were knocking on doors, many families were saying, we simply cannot deal with the housing crisis, but it's the affordability that is the biggest issue. do you feel this has not been solved for some of these working—class families who were talking about how hard it is setting the wallet? the talking about how hard it is setting the wallet? , ., , ., , the wallet? the problem has been aareed. the wallet? the problem has been agreed- the _ the wallet? the problem has been agreed. the problem _ the wallet? the problem has been agreed. the problem has- the wallet? the problem has been i agreed. the problem has been rising costs because a lot of folks, a lot of business leaders have decided to raise prices on american families and i can tell you, there will only happen even more under a donald trump residency, that's the message we have tried to hammer home is the cost of living continues to increase, people like donald trump and his acolytes have proposed cuts even to social security, which will make a difficult situation even

worse for our seniors in the state and all across the country. so it's and all across the country. so it's a message but of course sometimes could use a bit more refining when trying to pin the culprit. when it comes to rising costs, we know it is happening, everybody�*s feeling at but the unfortunate thing is who to blame has been displaced and i don't think it is even necessarily party, it has been the greed of some very wealthy individuals, the folks who will certainly be enabled by donald trump. i know the republicans had opened a community centre in the walkie and heavily black neighbourhood, part of the strategy to win over some more black men to the trouble side. is to win over some more black men to the trouble side.— the trouble side. is that something ou have the trouble side. is that something you have been seeing? _ the trouble side. is that something you have been seeing? -- - the trouble side. is that something you have been seeing? -- the - you have been seeing? -- the trouble side. that office has _ you have been seeing? -- the trouble side. that office has been _ you have been seeing? -- the trouble side. that office has been there - side. that office has been there for a while, i live in the neighbourhood, i cannot tell you a single time i have seen people in there. whether staff or volunteers. it has been a dormant office, they put it there just to have it there,

just to say they have a presence in the community. the same lip service we get when republicans are actually in office. pretending to have a presence but not knowing anything to actually engage the black community. mandela, great to speak to you. over to caitriona with another projection. we have another state projection to bring to you and at this time we are in a position to protect the state of colorado, projected as a win for kamala harris and the ten electoral votes that goes along with that. so what difference does that make to the race to 270? that brings kamala harris up to 91, donald trump is on 178. so still quite a way to summary has pulled the plug out! summary there is yet to go. but live tv,

what can you do? so we will have a check on some projections in just a moment. let's go to christian, who is at our magic board, hopefully his is at our magic board, hopefully his is plugged in and he can give us an update on the swing states. i have been looking at patterns. i want to choose something that is apparent to me with quite a bit of the vote in some of our battleground states. this is georgia, 81% of the vote counted. what i've been looking at is how much better donald trump is doing actually in the smaller rural counties in georgia. this is a good example. 92% of the vote counted in twiggs. if i spin it back to 2020, you can see she's doing a couple of points worse than he was. i told you at the beginning of the night, this is a simple game of maths, addition and subtraction. can you lose less badly in some of these countries while you are a democrat?

she is holding wherejoe biden was in 2024. she's pretty much more or less in the same place. in rockdale, she is a bit ahead with 93%. it's a similar story if you go to north carolina. nash county was one of ten across the seven battleground states had flipped tojoe biden in 2020 so it's a good bellwether. but she is behind him there. this was the picture in 2020. 1000 votes difference. if you were to go back to wake county, 63.9, you show that, she's doing quite well. those are suburban and metro areas. if we go to pennsylvania, again, in the

scranton area, 95% of the vote counted. she is three points ahead of donald trump. if we were to show you 2016 when hillary clinton lost pennsylvania, it is, you know, what you see is the same sort of margin, she's not doing as well asjoe biden and she probably knew that, she probably knew that she wasn't going to be doing whatjoe biden did to win the white house back in 2020, she knew the game, that she had to get more out of places like philadelphia and pittsburgh. none of these estates can be predicted but i think it's becoming more predictable how each of these candidates will win. let's check in now on the state of ohio, not actually a swing state but we will speak to the republican secretary of state in ohio, great to

have you on the programme. we know that the polls closed there in ohio but tell us how the vote counting has been going and the process of voting went today.— has been going and the process of voting went today. today was a very smooth election _ voting went today. today was a very smooth election because _ voting went today. today was a very smooth election because of - voting went today. today was a very smooth election because of the - smooth election because of the 35,000 hard—working election 35, 000 ha rd—working election officials. 35,000 hard—working election officials. everything went quite well in ohio, the polls closed on time at 7:30pm, we are well past 60% reported and it has been a good night for republican so far with more votes to count yet. {lit night for republican so far with more votes to count yet. of course home to the — more votes to count yet. of course home to the republican _ more votes to count yet. of course home to the republican vice - home to the republican vice presidential pick, jd vance, has his name on the ticket made a difference to turn out? i name on the ticket made a difference to turn out?— to turn out? i think it has, he is the hometown _ to turn out? i think it has, he is the hometown guy, _ to turn out? i think it has, he is the hometown guy, ohio - to turn out? i think it has, he is the hometown guy, ohio is - to turn out? i think it has, he is i the hometown guy, ohio is excited to turn out? i think it has, he is - the hometown guy, ohio is excited to see him becoming the next vice president and i think that has helped boost republicans around the state. we have a very strong candidate running for the united states senate who is currently leading, and one thing you may not

be talking about, at the republican headquarters tonight, we havejust defeated an issue that would have changed the way that district lines are drawn in ohio going forward so thatis are drawn in ohio going forward so that is a big win for ohio republicans as well. what do you think ohio. _ republicans as well. what do you think ohio, looking _ republicans as well. what do you think ohio, looking at _ republicans as well. what do you think ohio, looking at the - republicans as well. what do you think ohio, looking at the way, i republicans as well. what do you | think ohio, looking at the way, we use to talk about it is a purple state but now it is reliably republican, what do you think about how we might see some of the other midwestern states go tonight? fihia midwestern states go tonight? ohio is a tale where _ midwestern states go tonight? oi rr is a tale where people didn't midwestern states go tonight? (mr? is a tale where people didn't leave the democrats, the democrats left them, like where i grew up, some of these big, urban areas around ohio that have this industrial heritage for many generations, places like the mahoning valley and johnstown, people who had been reliable democratic vote will use do not buy the lines that the democrats have been selling so they come to the common—sense conservative parties of donald trump and moreno. fihia

common-sense conservative parties of donald trump and moreno.— donald trump and moreno. ohio got onto the international _ donald trump and moreno. ohio got onto the international stage - donald trump and moreno. ohio got onto the international stage when i onto the international stage when senatorjd vance was talking about people, haitian immigrants in springfield eating their pets and so on, has that affected turn out? i don't think so. it is a shame it took social media memes and things like that you highlight a suffering community, a community dealing with strained social services, that is not meant to deal with an influx like that, there are people suffering there and thankfully donald trump and jd vance are bringing attention to that so that those problems can be sought. there was no evidence _ those problems can be sought. there was no evidence for— those problems can be sought. there was no evidence for the _ those problems can be sought. there was no evidence for the comments that they were making about the community there.— that they were making about the community there. again, what this is about as a hospital— community there. again, what this is about as a hospital system _ community there. again, what this is about as a hospital system that - community there. again, what this is about as a hospital system that is i about as a hospital system that is overstretched, school systems that are struggling to keep up, even public safety that has dealt with

this influx of immigrants, any community that sees a massive influx like that is going to deal with some real strains. like that is going to deal with some realstrains. it like that is going to deal with some real strains. it was a mismanaged situation by the biden administration to allow that to happen. i grew up in a community when we had immigrants coming in, families that integrated in manageable numbers, something like 20,000, 30,000, it isjust not manageable. 20,000, 30,000, it is 'ust not manageablefi 20,000, 30,000, it is 'ust not manageable. 20,000, 30,000, it is 'ust not manaueable. ., ,, . ., , ., manageable. the ohio secretary of state, franklyn _ manageable. the ohio secretary of state, franklyn rose, _ manageable. the ohio secretary of state, franklyn rose, joining - manageable. the ohio secretary of state, franklyn rose, joining us, i state, franklyn rose, joining us, thank you for being on our programme. thank you for being on our programme-— thank you for being on our rouramme. . ~ i. . thank you for being on our rouramme. . ~ . ., , _ programme. thank you so much, happy election day- — programme. thank you so much, happy election day- we _ programme. thank you so much, happy election day. we are _ programme. thank you so much, happy election day. we are able _ programme. thank you so much, happy election day. we are able to _ programme. thank you so much, happy election day. we are able to go - programme. thank you so much, happy election day. we are able to go to - election day. we are able to go to get with a projection. we can now bring you a key projection —— 17 electoral votes in ohio, and as we have just been discussing, that is the state thatjd vance the vice

president running mate of donald trump is the current senate of war. let's see that impact on the race. donald trump on 195 electoral couege donald trump on 195 electoral college votes. kamala harris on 91. it may look like donald trump is getting close to that 270 but to explain the way things work in the us and the way that the states close at different times across the country, some of the earlier closing states very heavily republican and the later closing states, california, washington and so on, heavily democratic states, so kamala harris will be waiting on those poster close to get a bump and then it comes down to the states we cannot predict, sometimes republican, sometimes democrat, and they are the ones that we put either candidate over the line, or it might even be a tie—breaker. it happens rarely but the chances there. let's have a chat about what we are seeing so far, bringing the panel. you have

been watching closely the races as we have been talking. what is sticking out to you? i we have been talking. what is sticking out to you?— we have been talking. what is sticking out to you? i am glad that ou sticking out to you? i am glad that you keep making _ sticking out to you? i am glad that you keep making the _ sticking out to you? i am glad that you keep making the point - sticking out to you? i am glad that you keep making the point that i sticking out to you? i am glad that you keep making the point that it. sticking out to you? i am glad that| you keep making the point that it is not necessarily that trump has a significant lead butjust the way the state school, if it goes as people expect, harris will have to hundred and 25 and trump will have to hundred and 19 electoral college votes then able battle for the last seven swing states, but we will not see that for a few hours yet. so, do not despair, people out there, or be excited when you see this. it is not a linear that way. a couple of things are interesting to me, looking at virginia, the numbers are not entirely in yet, but the democrats usually wind virginia heavily, so in 2020, it was 54—44 and it was a bit closer to cycle, so

that might be a reflection of republican enthusiasm, but again, it is hard to make real assessments until all of the votes are counted. some things will give you a little bit of pause, but so far, i haven't seen anything that hasn't kind of falling in line with what people expected to happen tonight. mt; expected to happen tonight. my sources who were speaking to people in the _ sources who were speaking to people in the trump war room believe that georgia _ in the trump war room believe that georgia and — in the trump war room believe that georgia and north carolina will be called _ georgia and north carolina will be called the truck, that leaves the people. — called the truck, that leaves the people, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, one of those polls, then you — pennsylvania, one of those polls, then you can pick up nevada if it is not pennsylvania, he wins the presidency. the are two states, georgia — presidency. the are two states, georgia and north carolina, that he needed _ georgia and north carolina, that he needed to— georgia and north carolina, that he needed to win to get to that blue watt, and — needed to win to get to that blue wall, and realise that is another option— wall, and realise that is another option out— wall, and realise that is another option out there besides pennsylvania.— option out there besides pennsylvania. option out there besides

pennslvania. . ., . , pennsylvania. what are your sources sa in: , if pennsylvania. what are your sources saying. if north _ pennsylvania. what are your sources saying, if north carolina _ pennsylvania. what are your sources saying, if north carolina and - saying, if north carolina and georgia go to donald trump that put him in a commanding position with the rest of the swing states still to call. democrats are sounding more and less confident over the evening. the harris campaign do not sound totally confident they can get it but everybody on the democratic side recognises that this is not going to be the kind of clean, quick victory that they may have been projecting over the course of the last week. one word of warning is this idea, we should keep eyes on the fact that her many doubts have been counted, on the day votes, and are we still waiting for mail—in votes to be counted because we have seen a lot of turnout from the in early voting it is not the same numbers as democratic voting is in a state like pennsylvania where it is critical, you will have to wait until we have those early mail—in votes. in you will have to wait until we have those early mail-in votes.- you will have to wait until we have those early mail-in votes. in all of these numbers _ those early mail-in votes. in all of these numbers we _ those early mail-in votes. in all of these numbers we have _ those early mail-in votes. in all of these numbers we have to - those early mail-in votes. in all of| these numbers we have to consider these numbers we have to consider the percentage about celtic which is

critical, because my brother lives just outside of atlanta, he keeps texting me the number of the vote counted so far, he said only 20% so far so we still have a ways to go, and his critical swing counties as well. ~ ., ~ and his critical swing counties as well. ~ ., ,, ., , ., ., well. when we talk about georgia, we are seeinu well. when we talk about georgia, we are seeing foreign _ well. when we talk about georgia, we are seeing foreign interference - well. when we talk about georgia, we are seeing foreign interference in - are seeing foreign interference in georgia — are seeing foreign interference in georgia. the secretary of state there _ georgia. the secretary of state there has— georgia. the secretary of state there has said that the bomb threats have been— there has said that the bomb threats have been called into various potting — have been called into various polling stations which has been coming — polling stations which has been coming from russia, and that is quite _ coming from russia, and that is quite significant, to think that foreign — quite significant, to think that foreign actors are engaged in actively— foreign actors are engaged in actively trying to disrupt our democracy. actively trying to disrupt our democracy-— actively trying to disrupt our democra . ., ., democracy. one thing we have not soken democracy. one thing we have not spoken about. _ democracy. one thing we have not spoken about, viewers _ democracy. one thing we have not spoken about, viewers around - democracy. one thing we have not spoken about, viewers around the | spoken about, viewers around the world have heard a lot about donald trump and about kamala harris, they might not have heard about the other third party candidates on the ballot, we have not mentioned them, and these third party candidates to some extent cost hillary clinton her

election in 2016, if they can run up the numbers in some of these people states, where they caused hillary clinton such damage in 2016, they could do the same again. i have been looking, jill stein seems to be 1% in wisconsin, she had been polling at 2%, they sound like tiny numbers, that these people are getting back in a very close race that can make the difference.— in a very close race that can make the difference. ., , , , the difference. robert kennedy being in the ballot could _ the difference. robert kennedy being in the ballot could pull— the difference. robert kennedy being in the ballot could pull away - the difference. robert kennedy being in the ballot could pull away from - in the ballot could pull away from donald _ in the ballot could pull away from donald trump _ in the ballot could pull away from donald trump-— in the ballot could pull away from donald trump. wisconsin is the only one with all — donald trump. wisconsin is the only one with all of _ donald trump. wisconsin is the only one with all of the _ donald trump. wisconsin is the only one with all of the third _ donald trump. wisconsin is the only one with all of the third party - one with all of the third party candidates on the ballot. have to take into consideration _ candidates on the ballot. have to take into consideration the earlyl take into consideration the early numbers— take into consideration the early numbers in— take into consideration the early numbers in the _ take into consideration the early numbers in the senate - take into consideration the early numbers in the senate races, i take into consideration the early. numbers in the senate races, 46% take into consideration the early- numbers in the senate races, 46% of the bout— numbers in the senate races, 46% of the bout in— numbers in the senate races, 46% of the bout in nebraska, _ numbers in the senate races, 46% of the bout in nebraska, that _ numbers in the senate races, 46% of the bout in nebraska, that one - the bout in nebraska, that one should — the bout in nebraska, that one should change _ the bout in nebraska, that one should change for— the bout in nebraska, that one should change for doug - the bout in nebraska, that one i should change for doug fisher, i don't _ should change for doug fisher, i don't anticipate _ should change for doug fisher, i don't anticipate that _ should change for doug fisher, i don't anticipate that switching, i don't anticipate that switching, moreno— don't anticipate that switching, moreno is— don't anticipate that switching, moreno is up— don't anticipate that switching, moreno is up by— don't anticipate that switching, moreno is up by a _ don't anticipate that switching, moreno is up by a good - don't anticipate that switching, moreno is up by a good margin don't anticipate that switching, i moreno is up by a good margin in ohio, _ moreno is up by a good margin in ohio, pennsylvania _ moreno is up by a good margin in ohio, pennsylvania ratner, - moreno is up by a good margin in ohio, pennsylvania ratner, 49%| moreno is up by a good margin in i ohio, pennsylvania ratner, 49% of the vote _ ohio, pennsylvania ratner, 49% of the vote in. —

ohio, pennsylvania ratner, 49% of the vote in, wisconsin, _ ohio, pennsylvania ratner, 49% of the vote in, wisconsin, the - the vote in, wisconsin, the republican— the vote in, wisconsin, the republican barely- the vote in, wisconsin, the republican barely down, i the vote in, wisconsin, the - republican barely down, montana expecting — republican barely down, montana expecting to — republican barely down, montana expecting to go _ republican barely down, montana expecting to go to _ republican barely down, montana expecting to go to the _ republican barely down, montana i expecting to go to the republicans, if those _ expecting to go to the republicans, if those numbers _ expecting to go to the republicans, if those numbers continue - expecting to go to the republicans, if those numbers continue to - expecting to go to the republicans, if those numbers continue to trendi if those numbers continue to trend in a state — if those numbers continue to trend in a state like _ if those numbers continue to trend in a state like pennsylvania - if those numbers continue to trend in a state like pennsylvania where i in a state like pennsylvania where the live _ in a state like pennsylvania where the live delphi _ in a state like pennsylvania where the live delphi numbers— in a state like pennsylvania where the live delphi numbers we - the live delphi numbers we anticipate _ the live delphi numbers we anticipate coming - the live delphi numbers we anticipate coming early, i the live delphi numbers we i anticipate coming early, that the live delphi numbers we - anticipate coming early, that is a bil anticipate coming early, that is a big deat~ — anticipate coming early, that is a bi deal. ., ~' anticipate coming early, that is a bi deal. ., ,, . . anticipate coming early, that is a bindeal. . . . big deal. thank you so much. we can seak to big deal. thank you so much. we can speak to gabriel _ big deal. thank you so much. we can speak to gabriel sterling, _ big deal. thank you so much. we can speak to gabriel sterling, the - big deal. thank you so much. we can speak to gabriel sterling, the chief i speak to gabriel sterling, the chief operating officer in the office of the georgia secretary of state. we have actually lost him. it is that kind of night. everyone is frantic and busy. thank you for being with us. let's bring in some more exit poll information, we can go over to azadeh. according to the latest figures. azadeh. according to the latest fiaures. ., ., ~' azadeh. according to the latest fiaures. ., ., ., ., figures. looking at national fiuures, figures. looking at national figures, giving _ figures. looking at national figures, giving you a - figures. looking at national. figures, giving you a broader picture, we can tell that kamala harris, according to what voters are saying has a lead when it comes to women but it is not a landslide, and

if you look at the figures you will see that 55% of women said they voted for kamala harris, for donald trump about 44% of women. those figures are down compared to 2020, because joe figures are down compared to 2020, becausejoe biden had a larger gender split, 57% of women in 2020 voted forjoe biden. you can simper that a little bit when you look at age, when you look at younger women between the ages of 18 and 29, kamala harris has a very big lead with them, about on a par with what joe biden had in 2020, and then when you look at younger men, between the ages of 18 and 29, it is pretty evenly split. that is a group that joe biden won in 2020, kamala harris is leading with women but not by a landslide. if we look at the vote by race, when it comes to white voters, the single biggest voting group,

more than half are voting for donald trump, according to these latest figures that are going to change but when you look at kamala harris was multiple numbers, a different picture, she is leading with black voters, four in five black voters say they voted for kamala harris. when you look at hispanic figures, harris is still in the lead but it is worth flagging that donald trump is worth flagging that donald trump is up ten points with hispanic and latino voters compared to where he was that in 2020. if you will bear with me for one more, i have education for you, and when it comes to education you will see the majority of voters with college degrees are voting for kamala harris and the majority without a college degree are voting for donald trump. really interesting data, but keep in mind that this is a broad view of the national picture, this is not swing state data and it is in the swing state data and it is in the swing states as we keep saying all night, that is where the election will be won and lost. as soon as we

have more data we will update all of these figures for you.— these figures for you. thank you, we will look at — these figures for you. thank you, we will look at the _ these figures for you. thank you, we will look at the data _ these figures for you. thank you, we will look at the data starting - these figures for you. thank you, we will look at the data starting with - will look at the data starting with you, katty, talking about the fact that in 2020, the surge in the youth vote in the state of michigan was critical, something that democrats will be looking out for. that critical, something that democrats will be looking out for.— will be looking out for. at the moment everyone _ will be looking out for. at the moment everyone is - will be looking out for. at the moment everyone is lookingl will be looking out for. at the l moment everyone is looking at will be looking out for. at the - moment everyone is looking at the blue wall. we have had no actual surprises yet. the harris campaign, there is not a tonne of great data for them the kind of thing that stephanie was talking about, what you see in florida with hispanic voters, and with that exit poll data, about the fact that the gender split is not as big as had been anticipated, that could be something thatis anticipated, that could be something that is not a great sign for the harris campaign so there are signs that are not great for the harris campaign. there is no indication yet that the blue wall has fallen and if she wins the blue wall, the likelihood is she wins the presidency. philadelphia and wisconsin we are waiting on and

whilst we have had that exit poll data it does not necessarily include all of the early voting. again they haven't got all of those votes processed yet, so we do not know how complete a picture that is. i processed yet, so we do not know how complete a picture that is.— complete a picture that is. i have not a text complete a picture that is. i have got a text from — complete a picture that is. i have got a text from a _ complete a picture that is. i have got a text from a friend, - complete a picture that is. i have got a text from a friend, the - got a text from a friend, the anticipate _ got a text from a friend, the anticipate a _ got a text from a friend, the anticipate a big _ got a text from a friend, the anticipate a big mail- got a text from a friend, the anticipate a big mail balloti got a text from a friend, the . anticipate a big mail ballot drop got a text from a friend, the - anticipate a big mail ballot drop in philadelphia — anticipate a big mail ballot drop in philadelphia around _ anticipate a big mail ballot drop in philadelphia around midnight, - anticipate a big mail ballot drop in philadelphia around midnight, we| philadelphia around midnight, we will see _ philadelphia around midnight, we will see how— philadelphia around midnight, we will see how that _ philadelphia around midnight, we will see how that takes _ philadelphia around midnight, we will see how that takes place. - philadelphia around midnight, we will see how that takes place. joe biden will see how that takes place. biden winning that in 2020, will see how that takes place.“ biden winning that in 2020, kamala harris has got to try to do better in that, and also in the suburbs around philadelphia. early reporting city were very optimistic about the turnout they were _ optimistic about the turnout they were seeing in the philadelphia area so let's— were seeing in the philadelphia area so let's see — were seeing in the philadelphia area so let's see whether that happens. what _ so let's see whether that happens. what about those education numbers that we just saw one talking about with the koleczek —— college educated vote? this is national exit polling data, you have to take some of it with a grain of salt because

it doesn't include some of the early voting. which way do you think that will breakfor voting. which way do you think that will break for kamala harris and donald trump? latte will break for kamala harris and donald trump?— will break for kamala harris and donald trum-? ~ . , , , ., ~ donald trump? we have been speaking about the realignment _ donald trump? we have been speaking about the realignment taking _ donald trump? we have been speaking about the realignment taking place - about the realignment taking place in american demographics. the democrats are' success in the college educated voters is part of that. we think of the democrats even as recently as the 1990s, they were the party of working—class voters and unionised voters. what we are seeing with scanner exit poll data is the continuation of the shift of the the party of urban educated voters. 90% of people with a college degree live in urban areas in the united states. and the republican party conversely becoming the party of... we perhaps take this for granted over the last couple of election cycles but it's a remarkable shift taking place in american politics and it leads to changes in policies like we were talking about earlier where you

don't have a focus on trying to reduce deficit spending because actually a lot of people in the working class want welfare programmes, which is what donald trump realise. the democratic party seeding that — trump realise. the democratic party seeding that kind _ trump realise. the democratic party seeding that kind of green, - trump realise. the democratic party seeding that kind of green, blue - seeding that kind of green, blue collar workers, we have always called them, but we have seen the republican party making inroads at their with the trade unions giving some endorsements, donald trump has been making outreach to those people. been making outreach to those --eole. , ., people. i remember when we were at the convention, _ people. i remember when we were at the convention, my jaw— people. i remember when we were at the convention, my jaw dropped to i the convention, myjaw dropped to see a _ the convention, myjaw dropped to see a union — the convention, myjaw dropped to see a union leader of the republican national— see a union leader of the republican national convention stage. sol see a union leader of the republican national convention stage. so i do think— national convention stage. so i do think this reorientation of the political— think this reorientation of the political parties as part of why this election is so full of surprises and is so hard to work because — surprises and is so hard to work because the models are having a hard time catching up. we have talked about— time catching up. we have talked about how— time catching up. we have talked about how some of these rural counties, harris isn't doing as well

as biden did four years ago and that's a — as biden did four years ago and that's a reflection of that voting base _ that's a reflection of that voting base slipping further and further away— base slipping further and further away from the democrats. the question— away from the democrats. the question for me is, where do the country club republicans go? these were the _ country club republicans go? these were the reagan and bush republicans of the past. where did they go? the nikki of the past. where did they go? nikki haley of the past. where did they go? t1e: nikki haley voters. rodney might know. where did they go? thea;r nikki haley voters. rodney might know. where did they go? they are what we now call _ know. where did they go? they are i what we now call suburban democrats! grade points _ what we now call suburban democrats! grade points all—round on _ what we now call suburban democrats! grade points all—round on labour and l grade points all—round on labour and looking _ grade points all—round on labour and looking ahead, — grade points all—round on labour and looking ahead, at _ grade points all—round on labour and looking ahead, at what are _ looking ahead, at what are the demographic— looking ahead, at what are the demographic changes - looking ahead, at what are the demographic changes that we i looking ahead, at what are the. demographic changes that we in america — demographic changes that we in america are not _ demographic changes that we in america are not used _ demographic changes that we in america are not used to- demographic changes that we in america are not used to in our. america are not used to in our political— america are not used to in our political system _ america are not used to in our political system was _ america are not used to in our political system was mike i- america are not used to in our. political system was mike i think a number— political system was mike i think a number that has— political system was mike i think a number that has come _ political system was mike i think a number that has come forward - number that has come forward over the last few— number that has come forward over the last few weeks _ number that has come forward over the last few weeks is the _ number that has come forward over the last few weeks is the generic. the last few weeks is the generic nationwide _ the last few weeks is the generic nationwide. as— the last few weeks is the generic nationwide. as a member- the last few weeks is the generic nationwide. as a member of- nationwide. as a member of congress, as republicans we _ nationwide. as a member of congress, as republicans we always _ nationwide. as a member of congress, as republicans we always knew, - nationwide. as a member of congress, as republicans we always knew, if- as republicans we always knew, if you are _

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a political science professor at the couege a political science professor at the college of southern nevada. thank you for being here. in terms of the results coming in and the timeline, when do you think we will get that first batch of results and what might hold things up? it is first batch of results and what might hold things up? it is kind of a aood might hold things up? it is kind of a good news. _ might hold things up? it is kind of a good news, bad _ might hold things up? it is kind of a good news, bad news _ might hold things up? it is kind of a good news, bad news situation. | a good news, bad news situation. reports— a good news, bad news situation. reports are as long as three hours. no voting data can be released until the last— no voting data can be released until the last photo has voted. so it might— the last photo has voted. so it might be a couple of hours yet. there's— might be a couple of hours yet. there's also the issue of these ballots that need to be cured, as the terminology goes. these are ballots that have either a missing signature or a mismatched signature. in those cases the person that filled the ballot out needs to fix that. can you talk about that? your

siunature that. can you talk about that? your signature might _ that. can you talk about that? your signature might change we might have an inconsistent signature. you cannot— an inconsistent signature. you cannot do it online.— cannot do it online. you have another issue _ cannot do it online. you have another issue that _ cannot do it online. you have another issue that may - cannot do it online. you have another issue that may delay 1 cannot do it online. you have - another issue that may delay the recording of final results in nevada. i want to ask about the changing demographics in this state. we had president obama winning in 2008 and 2012. sorry, it is very windy here! we also had the clinton windy here! we also had the clinton win in 2016, joe biden, all democrats. but what is it about the population that's changing? lars population that's changing? las ve . as in population that's changing? las vegas in particular, we are about

80%_ vegas in particular, we are about 80% of— vegas in particular, we are about 80% of us don't make it to pretty transient— 80% of us don't make it to pretty transient population. we have a rapidly— transient population. we have a rapidly growing latino community. we have a _ rapidly growing latino community. we have a rapidly growing... 996 rapidly growing latino community. we have a rapidly growing. . ._ have a rapidly growing... 996 aip i do thank you _ have a rapidly growing... 996 aip i do thank you so _ have a rapidly growing... 996 aip i do thank you so much _ have a rapidly growing. .. 996 aip i do thank you so much for- have a rapidly growing... 996 aip i do thank you so much forjoining i have a rapidly growing... 996 aip i i do thank you so much forjoining me. we have another projection to bring you. let's go to caitriona. indeed we do. we can project at this point that the state of iowa is projected as a win for donald trump. iowa of course, as we saw that layer poll over the weekend that had kamala harris ahead by three percentage points, but at this point in time higher what is projected as a win for donald trump and the six electoral votes it brings with it. kansasis electoral votes it brings with it. kansas is projected as a win for donald trump, six electoral votes there. so let's have a look and see

what difference that makes for the race were 270. that now brings donald trump up to 207, kamala harris on 91. so donald trump has broken the 200 mark with those winds. so let's see now what will happen as we've been saying is the night goes on, polls closing in later parts of the country will make a difference to that. kamala harris waiting on some of those western states to close. stephanie, what are you making of what you're seeing so far? i you making of what you're seeing so far? ~ �* , , ., far? i think it's been an exciting niaht, far? i think it's been an exciting night. some _ far? i think it's been an exciting night, some really— far? i think it's been an exciting night, some really great - far? i think it's been an exciting night, some really great results far? i think it's been an exciting i night, some really great results so far and _ night, some really great results so far and a _ night, some really great results so far and a lot more to come. and where do _ far and a lot more to come. and where do you — far and a lot more to come. and where do you think _ far and a lot more to come. ji.1c where do you think this far and a lot more to come. d1c where do you think this race is going to be won or lost? we are looking at the swing states, exit polls are showing us kamala harris perhaps not doing as well with women as she might have hoped for, not saying that big surge. i

as she might have hoped for, not saying that big surge.— saying that big surge. i think that six arthur wright. _ saying that big surge. i think that six arthur wright. i _ saying that big surge. i think that six arthur wright. i listened to i six arthur wright. i listened to you announce — six arthur wright. i listened to you announce that donald trump is going to win _ announce that donald trump is going to win iowa _ announce that donald trump is going to win iowa and i think that's a really— to win iowa and i think that's a really good sign. there were some softness— really good sign. there were some softness in— really good sign. there were some softness in the polling we saw in the last week for iowa. pennsylvania, tremendous turnout, we have seen— pennsylvania, tremendous turnout, we have seen some really big numbers coming _ have seen some really big numbers coming out of pennsylvania over the last couple — coming out of pennsylvania over the last couple of days, early voting, people _ last couple of days, early voting, people standing in line for quite some time. so far, i think we are in a really good — some time. so far, i think we are in a really good position for trump to win this _ a really good position for trump to win this it— a really good position for trump to win this. it will take a couple of days— win this. it will take a couple of days for— win this. it will take a couple of days for us— win this. it will take a couple of days for us to actually see the final— days for us to actually see the final results, but the initial polling. _ final results, but the initial polling, your exit polling or results _ polling, your exit polling or results we are seeing with early voting. — results we are seeing with early voting, absentee voting and early numbers— voting, absentee voting and early numbers looks really strong. i could ask more about _ numbers looks really strong. i could ask more about that, _ numbers looks really strong. i could ask more about that, what - numbers looks really strong. i could ask more about that, what is - numbers looks really strong. i could ask more about that, what is it - ask more about that, what is it about the exit poll data that you think looks strong for the trump campaign? we did also see a third of voters saying they believe democracy is important for their ballot.

democracy is going to be protected. if donald trump is elected, he will protect— if donald trump is elected, he will protect democracy and there seems to be this— protect democracy and there seems to be this narrative that he will not. ithink— be this narrative that he will not. i think the — be this narrative that he will not. i think the things that are most important — i think the things that are most important of voters right now are two things. the border and border security, _ two things. the border and border security, we had 10 million people illegally— security, we had 10 million people illegally crossing to the united states — illegally crossing to the united states over the last four years under— states over the last four years under the _ states over the last four years under the harris biden administration. completely unacceptable. and inflation, i live in the _ unacceptable. and inflation, i live in the state of oklahoma and people here are _ in the state of oklahoma and people here are paying over $800 more per month— here are paying over $800 more per month than— here are paying over $800 more per month than they were paying in january of— month than they were paying in january of 2021. it is hitting their pocket _ january of 2021. it is hitting their pocket books and although they may not necessarily loved some of the rhetoric _ not necessarily loved some of the rhetoric that they hear from president trump, they know that he's going _ president trump, they know that he's going to _ president trump, they know that he's going to fight for them, he's going to fight— going to fight for them, he's going to fight to — going to fight for them, he's going to fight to lower inflation, he's going — to fight to lower inflation, he's going to fight to make sure the united — going to fight to make sure the united states is energy independent and he's _ united states is energy independent and he's going to fight to secure our southern border and those are

the things— our southern border and those are the things that i think voters are most _ the things that i think voters are most interested in the seeing in the next administration. congresswoman, thank you for— next administration. congresswoman, thank you forjoining us. _ thank you forjoining us. we are going to zoom in now and another one of those issues that's been critical in this campaign, abortion. in florida, voters tonight opted against enshrining fuller abortion rights in the state constitution, retaining the current ban after six weeks of pregnancy. abortion is a key issue driving voters to the polls this year. this is the first presidential election held since the us supreme court's 2022 decision to overturn roe vs. wade. this removed protections for abortion which had been in place for nearly 50 years. the dobbs decision, as its known, let each individual states decide how to regulate the procedure. abortion rights are appearing on ballots in ten states tonight, including the key swing states of arizona and nevada. mr trump claims credit for overturning roe v wade because he nominated three

of the supreme courtjustices who took the decision. mr trump repeatedly said on the campaign trail that banning abortions at the six—week mark is too early. ms harris has staunchly supported abortion rights throughout her career and made reproductive rights a key part of her campaign. as vice president, she supported several measures to improve abortion access. let's go to our correspondent in florida. tell us more about that abortion measure on the ballot. well, it was a key part of the entire conversation in florida. as we know, donald trump has one florida handsomely, potentially with the biggest margin of any president in recent history. —— donald trump has won florida. that core support for donald trump is also, i would say, the support that has prevented

this amendment from going through. it remains a six—week ban in florida. i think those demographics you have been talking about are key as well. we spoke to a lot of latino voters here in florida, particularly in palm beach. one said to us that because of their catholic background, theirfaith, they centre wouldn't be able to vote in favour of changing the rule on that. these carry just so of changing the rule on that. these carryjust so many of changing the rule on that. these carry just so many of those voters, the chances are there's also the people who prevented any change on abortion. it's worth noting that the numbers did favour a change, but it needed a 60% threshold and it didn't reach that. so the ban on abortion and anything after six weeks remains in place in florida. obviously that is devastating news for a lot of young women who were particularly hopeful that the law will change on that and notjust here in florida.

florida is a key state for neighbouring states in the south where women can come for reproductive services. that has now been denied to them, the governor was key in making sure that remained as a six—week ban. well, thank you for that. we can see a bit of a party atmosphere behind him there. he is very close to that donald trump watch party is taking place. we have some new panellists in the studio of fresh blood, if you well. anthony and margaret. thank you both forjoining us. and just sticking with that issue of abortion on the ballot in ten states, as we know that has failed now in florida but is not what we have seen previously when abortion has been on the ballot, is quite remarkable.

a majority supported it as your correspondent was explained, is just that it has a 60% threshold but we have seen in state after state, that when measures on the ballot protecting women's access to abortion is on the ballot it drives more women to turn out and democrats had hoped that would help lived votes in every state and we are seeing in colorado, it did not help them enough, in florida, to change them enough, in florida, to change the dynamic of you is going to win the dynamic of you is going to win the state of florida in the presidential race. and i think when we look back on the final analysis of this race and there are some things that are not knowable tonight, the fact that the top two issues for most voters were not border security and inflation, they were inflation and reproductive rights. the challenge is that for many women they felt very strongly that reproductive rights was a top

issue, that was the heart, but the head said inflation is a bigger deal every day so have those women who felt so strongly about those two issues end up influencing the presidential race, will be one of the big issues of tonight or tomorrow night, winner it happens. we have been following all of your updates on this, can you tell us what you think this tells us? we know that there are abortion issues on the ballot in nevada and arizona, to be knew what impact that might have? latte to be knew what impact that might have? ~ .. ., , to be knew what impact that might have? ~ ., , ., ., , have? we cannot tell yet, florida is not a good — have? we cannot tell yet, florida is not a good guideline _ have? we cannot tell yet, florida is not a good guideline to _ have? we cannot tell yet, florida is not a good guideline to that, - have? we cannot tell yet, florida is not a good guideline to that, it - not a good guideline to that, it didn't— not a good guideline to that, it didn't help the democrats in florida _ didn't help the democrats in florida. the democrats may be beyond help in— florida. the democrats may be beyond help in florida, it was a swing state — help in florida, it was a swing state be — help in florida, it was a swing state be used to talk about n2 thousand, 2004, 2008, it is not any more, _ thousand, 2004, 2008, it is not any more. it— thousand, 2004, 2008, it is not any more. it is— thousand, 2004, 2008, it is not any more, it is now a solid red state. the republicans over performed there in 2022 _ the republicans over performed there in 2022 in _ the republicans over performed there in 2022 in the mid—term elections, in 2022 in the mid—term elections, in 2018— in 2022 in the mid—term elections, in 2018 with — in 2022 in the mid—term elections, in 2018 with a democratic way when

they won _ in 2018 with a democratic way when they won the governorship, and ousted — they won the governorship, and ousted the then democratic senators so florida _ ousted the then democratic senators so florida is an outlier, although interesting to look at the hispanic vote and — interesting to look at the hispanic vote and the puerto rican vote in central— vote and the puerto rican vote in central florida because there was a county— central florida because there was a county in _ central florida because there was a county in central florida, skalak alty. _ county in central florida, skalak alty. that— county in central florida, skalak alty, that was won byjoe biden, that is— alty, that was won byjoe biden, that is 43% puerto rican and autumn carried _ that is 43% puerto rican and autumn carried it _ that is 43% puerto rican and autumn carried it this time round surge if you're _ carried it this time round surge if you're looking for signs that what happened — you're looking for signs that what happened at madison square garden with the _ happened at madison square garden with the comedian making jokes about the puerto— with the comedian making jokes about the puerto rican vote calling them garbage, _ the puerto rican vote calling them garbage, that didn't happen. we will have to _ garbage, that didn't happen. we will have to keep watching to see if these _ have to keep watching to see if these are — have to keep watching to see if these are portion ballot measures do in that— these are portion ballot measures do in that case _ these are portion ballot measures do in that case in arizona and nevada shift it— in that case in arizona and nevada shift it in— in that case in arizona and nevada shift it in a — in that case in arizona and nevada shift it in a much tighter race. | shift it in a much tighter race. i was shift it in a much tighter race. was an shift it in a much tighter race. 1 was an arizona couple of weeks ago and there are lots of people toying with the split decision, in arizona the abortion measure that is on the palate, it is already allowed up to 15 weeks but it was to extend it to the point of viability, 22—24 weeks

and to give some extra rights around abortion access so there is already access to abortion but lots of people told me that they would vote for that and for donald trump so it is not the usual republican position. it is not the usual republican osition. .., is not the usual republican position-— is not the usual republican osition. . ., ., position. it came close in florida, closer than _ position. it came close in florida, closer than some _ position. it came close in florida, closer than some people - position. it came close in florida, closer than some people had - position. it came close in florida, | closer than some people had been expecting and it did not pass and maybe that is the trump effect, maybe that is the trump effect, maybe not many people are splitting their ballots. one of the things i will be looking at around the country is whether we see any evidence of people splitting on house to presidential races, and the virginia race, that is why we are watching it closely this evening, it seems that the democrats are not doing as well as they are, it looks like they will squeak through on some of the house races, but maybe people voted for the local congressperson or for kamala harris, either. picture is so murky at the moment i'm not sure how much we can

in terms of... latte moment i'm not sure how much we can in terms of- - -— in terms of... we are at that point in terms of... we are at that point in the evening _ in terms of... we are at that point in the evening where _ in terms of... we are at that point in the evening where it _ in terms of... we are at that point in the evening where it looks - in terms of... we are at that pointi in the evening where it looks good for donald — in the evening where it looks good for donald trump _ in the evening where it looks good for donald trump in _ in the evening where it looks good for donald trump in georgia, - in the evening where it looks good i for donald trump in georgia, looking better— for donald trump in georgia, looking better for— for donald trump in georgia, looking better for donald _ for donald trump in georgia, looking better for donald trump _ for donald trump in georgia, looking better for donald trump in _ for donald trump in georgia, looking better for donald trump in north - better for donald trump in north carolina — better for donald trump in north carolina if— better for donald trump in north carolina. if he _ better for donald trump in north carolina. if he gets _ better for donald trump in north carolina. if he gets georgia - better for donald trump in north carolina. if he gets georgia back| carolina. if he gets georgia back from _ carolina. if he gets georgia back from when — carolina. if he gets georgia back from whenjoe _ carolina. if he gets georgia back from whenjoe biden— carolina. if he gets georgia back from when joe biden won - carolina. if he gets georgia back from whenjoe biden won it- carolina. if he gets georgia back from whenjoe biden won it four| from whenjoe biden won it four years— from whenjoe biden won it four years ago. — from whenjoe biden won it four years ago. that _ from whenjoe biden won it four years ago, that would _ from whenjoe biden won it four years ago, that would be - from whenjoe biden won it four years ago, that would be a - from whenjoe biden won it four. years ago, that would be a notable change _ years ago, that would be a notable change but — years ago, that would be a notable change but these _ years ago, that would be a notable change but these are _ years ago, that would be a notable change but these are the _ years ago, that would be a notable change but these are the stakes i years ago, that would be a notable| change but these are the stakes he has to— change but these are the stakes he has to win, — change but these are the stakes he has to win, georgia, _ change but these are the stakes he has to win, georgia, north - change but these are the stakes he l has to win, georgia, north carolina, it is his _ has to win, georgia, north carolina, it is his red — has to win, georgia, north carolina, it is his red wall, — has to win, georgia, north carolina, it is his red wall, to— has to win, georgia, north carolina, it is his red wall, to get— has to win, georgia, north carolina, it is his red wall, to get to - has to win, georgia, north carolina, it is his red wall, to get to bury- it is his red wall, to get to bury pics of— it is his red wall, to get to bury pics of one _ it is his red wall, to get to bury pics of one of— it is his red wall, to get to bury pics of one of the _ it is his red wall, to get to bury pics of one of the wall- it is his red wall, to get to bury pics of one of the wall states i it is his red wall, to get to bury. pics of one of the wall states and is then— pics of one of the wall states and is then able — pics of one of the wall states and is then able to _ pics of one of the wall states and is then able to win _ pics of one of the wall states and is then able to win the _ pics of one of the wall states and i is then able to win the presidency. ithink— is then able to win the presidency. i think that — is then able to win the presidency. 1 think that all _ is then able to win the presidency. i think that all eyes. _ is then able to win the presidency. i think that all eyes. shifting - is then able to win the presidency. i think that all eyes. shifting to - i think that all eyes. shifting to pennsylvania. _ i think that all eyes. shifting to pennsylvania, wisconsin, - i think that all eyes. shifting to - pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, and right— pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, and right now— pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, and right now you're _ pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, and right now you're getting - pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, and right now you're getting more i and right now you're getting more republican— and right now you're getting more republican votes— and right now you're getting more republican votes counting - and right now you're getting more republican votes counting and - and right now you're getting more republican votes counting and we| republican votes counting and we will be _ republican votes counting and we will be waiting _ republican votes counting and we will be waiting for— republican votes counting and we will be waiting for the _ republican votes counting and we will be waiting for the big - republican votes counting and we will be waiting for the big cities i will be waiting for the big cities to come — will be waiting for the big cities to come in _ will be waiting for the big cities to come in. the _ will be waiting for the big cities to come in. the same - will be waiting for the big cities to come in. the same thing - will be waiting for the big cities to come in. the same thing asi will be waiting for the big cities - to come in. the same thing as 2020. we were _ to come in. the same thing as 2020. we were literally _ to come in. the same thing as 2020. we were literally at _ to come in. the same thing as 2020. we were literally at this _ to come in. the same thing as 2020. we were literally at this stage - to come in. the same thing as 2020. we were literally at this stage at - we were literally at this stage at about 11pm, thinking this looks like about 11pm, thinking this looks like a very good night for donald trump, then they started counting the big city bouts. they all say they have got the processes quicker, but we

have not had that —— big city votes. they are really watching wisconsin, the democrats. and it is interesting because _ the democrats. and it is interesting because i_ the democrats. and it is interesting because i think you are right. as the road — because i think you are right. as the road gets more partisan there seems _ the road gets more partisan there seems to— the road gets more partisan there seems to be less ticket splitting but tonight we are seeing ticket splitting — but tonight we are seeing ticket splitting. —— as the world gets. it looks— splitting. —— as the world gets. it looks like — splitting. —— as the world gets. it looks like voters came out and said i am looks like voters came out and said i am not _ looks like voters came out and said i am not voting for the republican candidate — i am not voting for the republican candidate for governor but i am voting _ candidate for governor but i am voting for— candidate for governor but i am voting for donald trump. we will see _ voting for donald trump. we will see. pennsylvania, a crucial senate race, _ see. pennsylvania, a crucial senate race, as _ see. pennsylvania, a crucial senate race, as well— see. pennsylvania, a crucial senate race, as well as obviously all of the chips — race, as well as obviously all of the chips in _ race, as well as obviously all of the chips in the presidential race. the pretend city to ticket split tells _ the pretend city to ticket split tells you — the pretend city to ticket split tells you that voters are really engaged — tells you that voters are really engaged this year but i cannot emphasise enough that i have been in so many— emphasise enough that i have been in so many focus group and zoom rooms behind _ so many focus group and zoom rooms behind the _ so many focus group and zoom rooms behind the curtain over the course of this— behind the curtain over the course of this year— behind the curtain over the course of this year as well as poll after poll after—

of this year as well as poll after poll after poll, the preponderance of the _ poll after poll, the preponderance of the reasons why people are backing — of the reasons why people are backing trump are backing trump is because _ backing trump are backing trump is because they are upset about inflation _ because they are upset about inflation and they remember a time before _ inflation and they remember a time before covid and before the supply chain _ before covid and before the supply chain when trump happen to be president. — chain when trump happen to be president, when the money bought them _ president, when the money bought them more, and a lot of them will tell us— them more, and a lot of them will tell us in— them more, and a lot of them will tell us in these focus groups, we do not want _ tell us in these focus groups, we do not want january six, i don't want that drama — not want january six, i don't want that drama again, i don't want my that drama again, idon't want my children— that drama again, i don't want my children to — that drama again, i don't want my children to see that he is an example _ children to see that he is an example but i'm going to vote him because _ example but i'm going to vote him because of— example but i'm going to vote him because of inflation so we will see if that— because of inflation so we will see if that happens here. that because of inflation so we will see if that happens here.— if that happens here. that is what eo - le if that happens here. that is what people were _ if that happens here. that is what people were saying _ if that happens here. that is what people were saying in _ if that happens here. that is what people were saying in 2016, - if that happens here. that is what people were saying in 2016, i - people were saying in 2016, i remember people saying that i don't like donald trump was my character but i want him as my president, and you are hearing that same thing again this year.— again this year. yes, there is definitely _ again this year. yes, there is definitely a _ again this year. yes, there is definitely a willingness - again this year. yes, there is definitely a willingness to i again this year. yes, there is definitely a willingness to go | again this year. yes, there is - definitely a willingness to go back to donald — definitely a willingness to go back to donald trump, _ definitely a willingness to go back to donald trump, a _ definitely a willingness to go back to donald trump, a remarkable i definitely a willingness to go back- to donald trump, a remarkable change -iven to donald trump, a remarkable change given the _ to donald trump, a remarkable change given the way— to donald trump, a remarkable change given the way his — to donald trump, a remarkable change given the way his presidency _ to donald trump, a remarkable change given the way his presidency ended -

given the way his presidency ended in 2020, _ given the way his presidency ended in 2020, 2021, _ given the way his presidency ended in 2020, 2021, that _ given the way his presidency ended in 2020, 2021, that he _ given the way his presidency ended in 2020, 2021, that he has - given the way his presidency ended. in 2020, 2021, that he has managed to be _ in 2020, 2021, that he has managed to be pulled — in 2020, 2021, that he has managed to be pulled back— in 2020, 2021, that he has managed to be pulled back to— in 2020, 2021, that he has managed to be pulled back to and _ in 2020, 2021, that he has managed to be pulled back to and maybe - in 2020, 2021, that he has managed| to be pulled back to and maybe even the winning — to be pulled back to and maybe even the winning coalition _ to be pulled back to and maybe even the winning coalition that _ to be pulled back to and maybe even the winning coalition that carried - the winning coalition that carried him over— the winning coalition that carried him over the _ the winning coalition that carried him over the top— the winning coalition that carried him over the top in— the winning coalition that carried him over the top in 2016. - the winning coalition that carried him over the top in 2016. therel the winning coalition that carried i him over the top in 2016. there is a very reasonable _ him over the top in 2016. there is a very reasonable chance _ him over the top in 2016. there is a very reasonable chance he - him over the top in 2016. there is a very reasonable chance he can- very reasonable chance he can pick up one _ very reasonable chance he can pick up one of— very reasonable chance he can pick up one of the — very reasonable chance he can pick up one of the blue _ very reasonable chance he can pick up one of the blue wall— very reasonable chance he can pick up one of the blue wall states - very reasonable chance he can pick up one of the blue wall states and | up one of the blue wall states and there _ up one of the blue wall states and there are — up one of the blue wall states and there are indications _ up one of the blue wall states and there are indications from - up one of the blue wall states and there are indications from exit - there are indications from exit polls— there are indications from exit polls that _ there are indications from exit polls that he _ there are indications from exit polls that he is _ there are indications from exit polls that he is making - there are indications from exit| polls that he is making inroads there are indications from exit - polls that he is making inroads with black— polls that he is making inroads with black and _ polls that he is making inroads with black and hispanic _ polls that he is making inroads with black and hispanic voters, - polls that he is making inroads with black and hispanic voters, although michigan _ black and hispanic voters, although michigan and — black and hispanic voters, although michigan and wisconsin _ black and hispanic voters, although michigan and wisconsin and - black and hispanic voters, although michigan and wisconsin and it - black and hispanic voters, althoughi michigan and wisconsin and it plays a role _ michigan and wisconsin and it plays a role in _ michigan and wisconsin and it plays a role in pennsylvania _ michigan and wisconsin and it plays a role in pennsylvania and - michigan and wisconsin and it plays a role in pennsylvania and if- michigan and wisconsin and it plays a role in pennsylvania and if he - michigan and wisconsin and it plays a role in pennsylvania and if he can| a role in pennsylvania and if he can do that— a role in pennsylvania and if he can do that and — a role in pennsylvania and if he can do that and not— a role in pennsylvania and if he can do that and not lose _ a role in pennsylvania and if he can do that and not lose the _ a role in pennsylvania and if he can do that and not lose the suburbs i a role in pennsylvania and if he can. do that and not lose the suburbs and the traditional— do that and not lose the suburbs and the traditional republican _ do that and not lose the suburbs and the traditional republican voters - the traditional republican voters that kamala _ the traditional republican voters that kamala harris— the traditional republican voters that kamala harris had - the traditional republican voters that kamala harris had targeted| the traditional republican voters - that kamala harris had targeted then he could _ that kamala harris had targeted then he could win — that kamala harris had targeted then he could win this _ that kamala harris had targeted then he could win this thing. _ that kamala harris had targeted then he could win this thing. one - that kamala harris had targeted then he could win this thing.— he could win this thing. one of the cuestions he could win this thing. one of the questions that _ he could win this thing. one of the questions that the _ he could win this thing. one of the questions that the harris - he could win this thing. one of the| questions that the harris campaign has not wanted to talk about is whether there are people who don't feel comfortable voting for a woman at the top of the ticket, a hidden sexism, as we call it. i have interviewed some men who said that theyjust interviewed some men who said that they just didn't interviewed some men who said that theyjust didn't think she could be strong enough, and i suspect some women also, i'm has never had a

woman president so it is asking people to vote for something new. but when we look at some of the numbers on men and find that actually there were groups of men, i have had texts from people who study young men in particular who say they just did not feel comfortable. truth? just did not feel comfortable. why didn't he harris _ just did not feel comfortable. why didn't he harris campaign want to talk about— didn't he harris campaign want to talk about that?— didn't he harris campaign want to talk about that? they did not want to deal with _ talk about that? they did not want to deal with the _ talk about that? they did not want to deal with the issue _ talk about that? they did not want to deal with the issue of— talk about that? they did not want to deal with the issue of gender, i to deal with the issue of gender, theyjust to deal with the issue of gender, they just wanted to deal with the issue of gender, theyjust wanted her to be the candidate he was running for all americans, they did not want to repeat the hillary clinton model, they saw the slogan, i'm with her and they felt that did not help her. it did not end up being a successful campaign, — it did not end up being a successful campaign, it won the popular vote but not _ campaign, it won the popular vote but not the — campaign, it won the popular vote but not the electoral college, but it might — but not the electoral college, but it mightjust be because she spent the campaign criticising donald trump — the campaign criticising donald trump instead of making a case for herself— trump instead of making a case for herself or— trump instead of making a case for herself or dealing enough with the economy— herself or dealing enough with the

economy and hearing the closing weeks _ economy and hearing the closing weeks we — economy and hearing the closing weeks we have seen a race where harris's _ weeks we have seen a race where harris's strategic decision was to id harris's strategic decision was to go hard — harris's strategic decision was to go hard after trump and to say that we really _ go hard after trump and to say that we really want a return to that? and try to _ we really want a return to that? and try to make — we really want a return to that? and try to make the case in the economy in the _ try to make the case in the economy in the very— try to make the case in the economy in the very closing days but it was not an— in the very closing days but it was not an economic heavy message up until then _ not an economic heavy message up until then and many voters right up until then and many voters right up until the _ until then and many voters right up until the end, fairly or not was saying. — until the end, fairly or not was saying. i— until the end, fairly or not was saying, i still feel like i don't know— saying, i still feel like i don't know her. _ saying, i still feel like i don't know her, yet.— saying, i still feel like i don't know her, yet. she has been vice resident know her, yet. she has been vice president for _ know her, yet. she has been vice president for four _ know her, yet. she has been vice president for four years, - president for four years, extraordinary. we are president forfour years, extraordinary. we are going to go over to georgia now, because that is getting very close. they have got a lot of the votes counted there. it has been looking very good for donald trump if you listen to what the republicans are saying. there are bouts still to be cast, butjohn is there for us, what can you tell us about the state of play? tbs, is there for us, what can you tell us about the state of play? a huge cheer went — us about the state of play? a huge cheer went op _ us about the state of play? a huge cheer went up here _ us about the state of play? a huge cheer went up here a _ us about the state of play? a huge cheer went up here a few - us about the state of play? a huge cheer went up here a few minutes| cheer went up here a few minutes ago. they are convinced that they have won this state, taking it back

from the democrats, joe biden won it here in 2020 with just a few thousand votes. that is their convictions stop it is not an independent prediction. kamala harris's routes to victory here are looking increasingly narrow. something like 90% of the vote counted, donald trump is leading by something like three percentage points. she will need to perform extremely well among the remaining urban votes still to be counted, to close that gap, and it is looking difficult. if it is confirmed, for donald trump, then that would be a huge victory. of course, he really needs these southern states on his path at the white house. they will be delighted. that said, it is just one state, but there are some other indications that do not look so good for the democrats. some of the exit polls suggest that although kamala

harris was winning a majority expected amongst women voters and black voters in the state, very important here in georgia, donald trump may have been eating into those margins, so it'll be interesting to see if that is borne out when we get full picture, and if it is then it will be more troubling signs for the democrats.- signs for the democrats. another cuestion signs for the democrats. another question about _ signs for the democrats. another question about how— signs for the democrats. another question about how the - signs for the democrats. another question about how the voting i signs for the democrats. another i question about how the voting went in georgia, there were reports of bomb threats at polling stations. do we have an idea of how that impacted the voting and does it extend the time when we would expect to get a result? ., , ., , result? there were those threats, which election _ result? there were those threats, which election officials _ result? there were those threats, which election officials are - result? there were those threats, | which election officials are blaming on the russian interference. they led to the evacuation of some polling stations this morning, just a handful. we are told that they didn't get in the way of voting too much. some of the deadlines for voting were extended slightly in

some polling stations, although in some polling stations, although in some cases, nothing to do with the bomb threats, but for other technical reasons. all we can say is that georgia told us it would count quickly and give as a result early. i don't think they have quite hit the schedule they wanted to but looking at these numbers, 93% of the doubts in, they have not done badly and we are not far off having an official call for the first vote. thank you so much, john in georgia. we can say to you at this point that our cbs news partner has a race rating for georgia, as leaning trump. that is not a projection at this point, it is not a result but thatis this point, it is not a result but that is what our partners are saying, with a lot of the vote already counted in georgia. let's go over to christian. we are looking at

the battleground states and there is lots of red on the board. we did see this back in 2020, in the north—west states, they tend to count the only david pallett quicker than the mail—in ballot here, so you would expect republicans to be ahead here. —— the on the day ballot. jumping into georgia, around 93% counted. if you just look at how much of the vote is counted around the atlanta suburbs, you can see that we are up to 90% now in the suburbs. you said that she was doing well with the black vote, clayton, 70% black and the margin is huge in clayton county but as i was telling you earlier, she is not getting enough out of these rural counties, and donald trump as he has done in previous elections, he runs up the vote in

these blue—collar, conservative, small rural areas and he's getting more out of it in georgia. ourfirst look now at arizona, the state of the grand canyon and john mccain, republican he was a presidential nominee back in 2008. the race here is in maricopa county, 60% of the vote, donald trump, just in the last few minutes, hasjust vote, donald trump, just in the last few minutes, has just gone into the lead there. this is tucson county, right up against the border. we are approaching the top of the hour, and another key race alert coming up with another set of polls closing, another one of these moments were the candidates are anxiously waiting for projections, with the polls closing. kamala harris and donald trump watching this moment closely.

so let's see where we are. it's11pm here in washington, 4am in london, and polls have just closed in california, idaho, oregon and washington. together, these states make up 78 electoral votes. another reminder, that magic number is 270 votes to win the white house. these are of course some of the west coast states that the democrats have been waiting to see come in. we are also waiting for those seven key battleground states. we don't have projections for those yet, vote counting is fast and furious this hour. we are waiting for updates in some of the counties and the vote tally takes up the percentage of the vote that's come in but it's been a big night across the board already as we are waiting to see how the swing states shake out. we have seen

the reliably republican or democrat states come in but we can now bring you some projections from the polls that had just closed. here's the first one. california projected for kamala harris, 54 electoral votes. she is from san francisco of course. that state was expected for her. idaho now, reliably republican, projected for donald trump, four electoral votes added to his tally. that brings his tally up a little further. so a big chunk of electoral votes for, harris, that brings us to 145 on her end. donald trump had 211. they are trying to reach that middle white line, 270 the number that they need to win. we are seeing them getting a bit closer but as we said, as we get more projections, from states like oregon and the west coast, that will give us a better idea of how things are looking. polls have just closed their so it

is too early to project. it has eight electoral votes, it is expected to kamala harris but it is too early to call. the state of washington also on the west coast, pollsters closing there, it has 12 electoral votes. also too early to project. we will continue watching to see if those results come in and see if those tally sister to go up for kamala harris with those west coast states. but let's go to the harris campaign hq in washington, dc where sarah smith has been all evening. how are people feeling there at this point in the evening? there was just there at this point in the evening? there wasjust a there at this point in the evening? there was just a huge chair when it was announced that kamala harris had won california. it was hardly a surprise but there was 54 electoral votes really do bring up her tally and to be honest it was the first time in a while there had been much

good news to excite people here. they have been doing what they can to try and keep the party atmosphere going. the dj is pumping up the music but people are getting more and more anxious. we know that we can't call these swing states yet, not enough of the vote is in but as it was, pennsylvania and wisconsin tipped towards trump with counted already. and of course until a few days ago, nobody thought that kamala harris had a chance of winning iowa and then we saw that surprise: a few days ago. it made it sound as though iowa might go to her when she didn't take it hearts sank here. over the past couple of hours, people are getting more and more worried about quite how tight the race is. there is still a path to victory for kamala harris, people are clinging on to that hope but you can feel the

anxiety here. on to that hope but you can feel the anxiety here-— on to that hope but you can feel the anxie here. ., ,, ., ~ , anxiety here. thank you, sarah. must to anxiety here. thank you, sarah. must no to ga anxiety here. thank you, sarah. must go to gary o'donoghue _ anxiety here. thank you, sarah. must go to gary o'donoghue at _ go to gary o'donoghue at trump headquarters. we heard from sarah, people getting ever more anxious at harris hq, what is it like in that room? . ., , harris hq, what is it like in that room? _, , , , harris hq, what is it like in that room? , , , ., room? the converse here because are caettin room? the converse here because are getting increasingly — room? the converse here because are getting increasingly excited, - getting increasingly excited, they are seeing the numbers on screen, obviously— are seeing the numbers on screen, obviously in — are seeing the numbers on screen, obviously in those seven key swing states, _ obviously in those seven key swing states, we — obviously in those seven key swing states, we have no projections at the moment but they are seeing the way the _ the moment but they are seeing the way the numbers are breaking in places— way the numbers are breaking in places like — way the numbers are breaking in places like georgia, they are seeing the closeness of the race in places like virginia, they are seeing things— like virginia, they are seeing things like north carolina too which was a _ things like north carolina too which was a bit _ things like north carolina too which was a bit of a wobble for the campaign in the last few days, seeing — campaign in the last few days, seeing that perhaps firming up a little bit — seeing that perhaps firming up a little bit. so i think you are seeing _ little bit. so i think you are seeing a bit of excitement here growing — seeing a bit of excitement here growing. they have just played some music, _ growing. they have just played some music, a few ladies doing the cancan. — music, a few ladies doing the cancan, think it's fair to say that liguor— cancan, think it's fair to say that liguor has — cancan, think it's fair to say that

liquor has been consumed in this room by— liquor has been consumed in this room by some substantial amount! and everyone _ room by some substantial amount! and everyone is— room by some substantial amount! and everyone is hoping that the candidate himself will come over from _ candidate himself will come over from mar—a—lago at some point and addressed the crowd. that is the expectation, the place has been filling _ expectation, the place has been filling up— expectation, the place has been filling up as a result. they have still got cnn on the tv, i'm afraid. i did still got cnn on the tv, i'm afraid. i did try— still got cnn on the tv, i'm afraid. i did try and — still got cnn on the tv, i'm afraid. i did try and find the remote to switch it— i did try and find the remote to switch it to bbc news but i fail. gary, _ switch it to bbc news but i fail. gary, thank you for fighting the good fight for us out there in florida. let's go to a key battleground state we have been watching all night. carl nasman is there. how are people feeling where you are at this point? the there. how are people feeling where you are at this point?— you are at this point? the energy in the room has _ you are at this point? the energy in the room has picked _ you are at this point? the energy in the room has picked up. _ the room has picked up. volunteers for tammy baldwin in madison wisconsin. they have been watching some of the results coming in and a big cheer coming in. just a few months ago we saw the lieutenant

governor of the state take to the stage, she gave a bit about check to everybody here, saying, we know how things work in wisconsin, it's going to be a long night until we get the final results, there are so many cities where the essential counts are being processed and counted and it is simply going to take time, especially in the city and county of milwaukee. some 31,000 dollars had to be recounted after there was an error with the machine door on one of these machines not being closed properly, that has caused a bit of drama among the republican party who are claiming that the city of milwaukee wasn't quite prepared for this. city officials saying it is only out of an abundance of caution they are doing this recount. i have been speaking to people here gather, you can feel a bit of anxiety starting to creep into the room. they know that if those sunbelt

states do go to donald trump, the clearest path victory will be through the blue wall states and wisconsin is one of them. they have been leaning more republican in recent years, wisconsin will be a key part of that. kamala harris cannot afford to lose this state if she does this estate like georgia or north carolina. everyone aware of that but they are still keeping up their confidence and are still too early to say which it will go. we will have to watch some of those key areas around milwaukee, the wow counties and milwaukee itself, we have been speaking with election officials, they tell us that they could be maybe one day or 2am local time, so people in the uk might be working up to their breakfast to get results from wisconsin. so stay patient, stay calm, that's the motto here in wisconsin. but a bit of

anxiety among the democratic supporters of senator tammy baldwin. carl nasman in wisconsin, thank you. let's go back to the screen it now because we have another projection to bring you. the state of oregon projected for kamala harris with eight electoral votes. a solidly democratic state on the west coast, the polls just closed a short while ago and now we can say that it has been projected for kamala harris with those eight electoral votes. let's see where that puts us on our counter. 153 for kamala harris, 21! for donald trump. again, we're still for donald trump. again, we're still for some states to be projected so at the moment, donald trump with the bigger lead but we are going to see the numbers get closer and closer. we know that this is supposed to very, very close race and we anticipate the numbers will continue to show us that. this go to our corresponded nada tawfik who is a

trump campaign headquarters. you have been looking at donald trump's legal troubles, you cover the case that led to his conviction in new york. tell us, trump wins tonight, what does it mean for his legal cases? , ., ., ., ,, ., , cases? yes, we are looking at these swin: cases? yes, we are looking at these swing states — cases? yes, we are looking at these swing states and _ cases? yes, we are looking at these swing states and looking _ cases? yes, we are looking at these swing states and looking to - cases? yes, we are looking at these swing states and looking to see - swing states and looking to see whether that will put him in the white house but there is a lot personally at stake for donald trump as well. if he is able to win in this election, his third time running, he will be able to get the charges against him either dropped or postponed. let's look at the federal case, for example. the federal case, for example. the federal case, for example. the federal case in washington, dc against him, trying to interfere with the election in 2020. policy is that a sitting president can't be prosecuted, donald trump has said he

would fire jack smith the special prosecutor within two minutes of taking office again. so he will likely never have to go to court in that case. as far as the election interference case in the state of georgia, well, we can see that case postponed if he goes into the white house. i looked, postponed if he goes into the white house. ilooked, in postponed if he goes into the white house. i looked, in new york, he's already been convicted of 34 felony charges of fraud. sentencing is on november the 26th, coming very shortly. so whether he is elected or not, perhaps the impact if he does get the jail sentence, not, perhaps the impact if he does get the jailsentence, again, might just get probation but if he is sentenced to jail time, the question becomes, again, doesn't get postponed? so really, not to take a look at. if he loses, he is in the same position, facing numerous court cases, hundreds of millions in civil

penalties. even though his legal team have been successful in delaying a lot of those cases and getting them through the different courts, it would still be something he would have to face in all likelihood. so a lot personally at stake for donald trump, it's important to remember. indeed, really important _ important to remember. indeed, really important point. _ important to remember. indeed, really important point. before i important to remember. indeed, | really important point. before we let you go, when are we expecting to see donald trump they are tonight, do we have a sense of when he's heading over, what he has been doing until now? ., , heading over, what he has been doing until now? . , , ., until now? he has been at mar-a-lago this evening- — until now? he has been at mar-a-lago this evening- he _ until now? he has been at mar-a-lago this evening. he has _ until now? he has been at mar-a-lago this evening. he has been _ until now? he has been at mar-a-lago this evening. he has been with - until now? he has been at mar-a-lago this evening. he has been with his i this evening. he has been with his family, close friends, the likes of elon musk, his biggest donor, the world's richest man. i spoke to one of his closest friends who was there every day of the trouble trial until they was there during that second assassination attempt. he said that they have a real feeling that they

are going to win decisively tonight, that there is excitement in donald trump's team tonight. we do expect donald trump to come and speak here. there are some colleagues outside the convention centre saying they when there is an election. if we are foct convention centre saying have already seen some motorcade activity, nothing confirmed yet but have already seen some motorcade activity, nothing confirmed yet but as soon as he arrives here and if he as here and if he does speak to the crowd, we will let as soon as he arrives here and if he does speak to the crowd, we will you know. does speak to the crowd, we will let ou know. ., ~ does speak to the crowd, we will let ou know. ., ,, , ., does speak to the crowd, we will let as soon as he arrives here and if he does spea- crowd, we will. as soon as he arrives here and if he does spea_wd, we will. as soon as he arrives here and if he ou know. ., ,, i. does speak to the crowd, we will let ou know. ., ~' ,, . does speak to the crowd, we will let ou know. ., ,, i. . ., does spea_ we will. as soon as he arrives here and if he does spea_ll i as soon as he arrives here and if he doessea ., ~ . ., you know. thank you so much, good to catch up with — you know. thank you so much, good to you know. thank you so much, good to catch up with — you know. thank you so much, good to catch up with you- _ catch up with you- _ catch up with you. let's talk about what is going on. catch up with you. let's talk about what is going on. we have been joined we have been joined let's talk about what is going on. let's talk about what is going on. we have beenjoined by a law professor from we have beenjoined by a law we have beenjoined by a law professor from we have beenjoined by a law professorfrom harvard. nicholas, professorfrom harvard. nicholas, thank you forjoining us. we have thank you forjoining us. we have heard a lot leading up to today heard a lot leading up to today about the integrity of this election about the integrity of this election and we have seen some issues along and we have seen some issues along the way. from what you have seen and the way. from what you have seen and what you have been looking at, do what you have been looking at, do you think things look secure at this you think things look secure at this point? point? you think things look secure at this oint? , , ., ~ you think things look secure at this oint? , , ., ~ point? they definitely do. we never want to be focusing _ point? they definitely do. we never want to be focusing _ point? they definitely do. we never point? they definitely do. we never want to be focusing on _ point? they definitely do. we never want to be focusing on election law| want to be focusing on election law when there is an election. if we are want to be focusing on _ point? they definitely do. we never want to be focusing on election law| want to be focusing on election law when there is an election. if we are

focusing on election focusing on election law, it usually means something has gone wrong and it usually means the results are very close in one or more states and that there are plausible legal issues that might affect the result within those states. i don't see any sign of those issues occurring in this election. there have been some snafus. there was an issue with some vote scanning machines that stopped working for a while and lead to voting i was being extended. milwaukee had an issue with the processing of mail in balance. so the city has to now recount, about 30,000 mail—in ballots, which will push that recount well into the night or even into tomorrow morning. do they do that to hand, or do they use the machines again?—

use the machines again? they are usina the use the machines again? they are using the machine _ use the machines again? they are using the machine to _ use the machines again? they are using the machine to do it - use the machines again? they arei using the machine to do it all over again. there is a minor issue where the door to the machine wasn't properly sealed before the initial count took place. as i understand it, they have now properly sealed and closed the machine and they are proceeding with the recount. the most worrying development was bomb

syracuse university, where you're in syracuse university, where you are looking at democracy, what nicholas was talking about in the foreign interference in the bomb threats, this was perhaps not expected but anticipated adam today? —— ahead of today? we have been looking at the misinformation, deepfake, those intrusions — misinformation, deepfake, those intrusions into the election space by other— intrusions into the election space by other countries as well as by some _ by other countries as well as by some in— by other countries as well as by some in the us has been a concern. it some in the us has been a concern. it has _ some in the us has been a concern. it has been — some in the us has been a concern. it has been happening. and it does two things — it has been happening. and it does two things. it has the potential to intimidate — two things. it has the potential to intimidate voters. if you heard there — intimidate voters. if you heard there was— intimidate voters. if you heard there was a bomb threat, would you want to— there was a bomb threat, would you want to stick around to figure out if it was— want to stick around to figure out if it was real? it would be like, i've if it was real? it would be like, i've got— if it was real? it would be like, i've got to _ if it was real? it would be like, i've got to pick up my kids, so it has a _ i've got to pick up my kids, so it has a deterrent effect to some extent, — has a deterrent effect to some extent, it _ has a deterrent effect to some extent, it is hard to know how much,

but the _ extent, it is hard to know how much, but the other— extent, it is hard to know how much, but the other is that in the misinformation space, itjust has an effect _ misinformation space, itjust has an effect of— misinformation space, itjust has an effect of essentially, because it makes — effect of essentially, because it makes voters or americans in general less able _ makes voters or americans in general less able to _ makes voters or americans in general less able to know whether anything they are _ less able to know whether anything they are trusting is real, then it also _ they are trusting is real, then it also makes _ they are trusting is real, then it also makes people not distinguish between _ also makes people not distinguish between what is real and what is 'ust between what is real and what is just a _ between what is real and what is just a conspiracy theory, it is charm — just a conspiracy theory, it is charm and _ just a conspiracy theory, it is charm and the water that muddies the water— charm and the water that muddies the water so _ charm and the water that muddies the water so these are increasing concerns _ water so these are increasing concerns and remember we saw the justice _ concerns and remember we saw the justice department taking down 32 domains— justice department taking down 32 domains from the internet, we saw the us— domains from the internet, we saw the usjustice department the us justice department investigating the usjustice department investigating the fact that russian backed _ investigating the fact that russian backed operations, media operations were using, — backed operations, media operations were using, manipulating and using us sources — were using, manipulating and using us sources to spread misinformation so the _ us sources to spread misinformation so the russians have had their hooks in this— so the russians have had their hooks in this election cycle. to what extent— in this election cycle. to what extent it _ in this election cycle. to what extent it has shaped the outcome of

the vote, _ extent it has shaped the outcome of the vote, we may not know that right away _ the vote, we may not know that right away to _ the vote, we may not know that right awa . ., . the vote, we may not know that right awa. ., ., ~ away. to what extent america's adversaries _ away. to what extent america's adversaries want _ away. to what extent america's adversaries want to _ away. to what extent america's adversaries want to cause i away. to what extent america's adversaries want to cause a i away. to what extent america's i adversaries want to cause a sense that democracy writ large, whether in the us or other countries, doesn't work very well, is chaotic, that you cannot trust it is a system, and this is an effective way of doing that, how unbelievably easy is it, you don't even need to plant a bomb or commit an act of terrorism, all you need to do is make a phone call which costs people that want to do the system damage nothing and presumably it is something you could then have a copycat and somebody could do it in other states, as well. it achieves exactly the aim is that a country like russia or china might want to achieve, in this powerplay in terms of is the democratic system or a more authoritarian system working better, you want to try to cause chaos and show that the democratic system doesn't work. fine

chaos and show that the democratic system doesn't work.— system doesn't work. one piece of news. system doesn't work. one piece of news- our— system doesn't work. one piece of news. our partners _ system doesn't work. one piece of news. our partners at _ system doesn't work. one piece of news. our partners at cbs - system doesn't work. one piece of news. our partners at cbs have i system doesn't work. one piece of i news. our partners at cbs have given a race rating for north carolina, this is not a projection but a race rating from north carolina of leans trump, and one for georgia of leans trump, and one for georgia of leans trump, and one for georgia of leans trump, and these are not projections or results, it is just their assessment of how things are looking, based on how many of the votes have already been counted and the trends that they are seeing. what you make of that? i the trends that they are seeing. what you make of that?- the trends that they are seeing. what you make of that? i make it that this will — what you make of that? i make it that this will now _ what you make of that? i make it that this will now come _ what you make of that? i make it that this will now come down - what you make of that? i make it that this will now come down to l what you make of that? i make it i that this will now come down to the blue wall! _ that this will now come down to the blue wall! that is where it is all tracking — blue wall! that is where it is all trackina. �* , t, t, blue wall! that is where it is all trackina. �*, t, t, t, tracking. let's hold that thought, with christian, _ tracking. let's hold that thought, with christian, who _ tracking. let's hold that thought, with christian, who is _ tracking. let's hold that thought, with christian, who is at - tracking. let's hold that thought, with christian, who is at the - tracking. let's hold that thought, j with christian, who is at the wall. have nothing changed on the map so far. i want to show you the scenario if georgia is leaning trump and

north carolina is reining first, you can see how that changes the numbers up can see how that changes the numbers up here. and if he was to win pennsylvania, he gets home to 270, but we have got a long way to go in the midwest. focusing on arizona, we have not been down here to arizona much tonight, and they are counting, 50% of the vote you can see so far, and this is part of the changing map of the united states, because you have got huge population growth in this, maricopa county, 60% of the votes state—wide in arizona, you have got younger people coming in, intel has a base in maricopa county, there is arizona state university, and this was one of the ten counties in the seven battleground states that lip forjoe biden in 2020 and of course donald trump lost it on that occasion byjust10,000 votes, we are keeping a wary eye on maricopa county, harrisjust in

we are keeping a wary eye on maricopa county, harris just in the lead and here, another democratic area, and this is tucson, university of arizona down here, and in terms of arizona down here, and in terms of the debate, a portion on the ballot tonight, that is part of the debate, the border, this is one of the more active parts of the southern border, and also the economy. over the last couple of years, inflation at certain points has been running above the national average. all of that feeds into the vote. just, in terms of the vote, 20% of it is mail—in ballots that is dropped off in ballot boxes on the day and that is the vote that is counted last so although we have 50% of the vote in now state—wide, just going back here, 50% of it state—wide, there will be quite a delay in counting that mail—in ballots that came in last. thank you so much, christian, interesting to

take a closer look at arizona. we arejoined by a cbs correspondent focusing on immigration they are, for us, gives a sense, camilo, how things are going, what can you tell us? hello, yes, this is the only real battleground state along the us—mexico border, and immigration has pulled as one of the top ranking issues of concern among american voters, especially republicans and independents because of the high levels of illegal crossings along that border. we levels of illegal crossings along that border.— levels of illegal crossings along that border. ~ . , ., ~ ., that border. we have been talking to residents along _ that border. we have been talking to residents along the _ that border. we have been talking to residents along the arizona - that border. we have been talking to residents along the arizona mexico l residents along the arizona mexico border and they say they are frustrated with the unprecedented levels of migration, unlawful migration they have seen over the past years, and they believe that there has been significant federal inaction on this issue on the part of the biden administration and they tend to trust former president trump

on the issue of immigration, according to moderate democrats, but there are border residents who feel that the trump immigration policies are inhumane and draconian but the situation in mexico is dramatically different, we spoke to many migrants are desperately awaiting the results the election because their fortunes could be dictated by whoever wins the election. former president trump has vowed to seal the border altogether and to terminate programmes that allow people to come into the country legally. he has promised to launch the largest deportation operation in american history. vice president harris has vowed to continue policies to limit asylum but has also said she will expand legal immigration programme so there are startling differences on the issue of the immigration and it is the top issue here in arizona. there is a proposition on the ballot that would allow the state and local

officials to arrest, jail and prosecute prospective migrants. that currently is a federal crime crossing into the us illegally and if it passes in arizona, it would make it into a state crime. great to net that make it into a state crime. great to get that update _ make it into a state crime. great to get that update from _ make it into a state crime. great to get that update from arizona, - make it into a state crime. great to| get that update from arizona, thank you for that, camilo. get that update from arizona, thank you forthat, camilo. one get that update from arizona, thank you for that, camilo. one of the biggest issues in this election campaign, and this from lone wells who is at a watch party in detroit as she says a couple of democrat donors and strategists are feeling very pessimistic. they say that privately they are feeling very pessimistic, with lone wells saying this could be expectation management at this point in the evening but there are concerns about the fact that the senate race, which we have not spoken much about, but the way that both houses of congress on land tonight will be critical for whoever is the next president, there is a key senate race there that is neck

and neck and that is making some of those democrat strategists there in michigan, where lone wells is our correspondent, very pessimistic, she said to us. we can go over to phoenix and speak to the mayor of phoenix. thank you for being with us again on bbc news, lovely to lovely to talk to you. what is your sense of what is going on in arizona, you are a key —— keen watcher of all kinds of elections there. are a key -- keen watcher of all kinds of elections there.- kinds of elections there. it has been an exciting _ kinds of elections there. it has been an exciting day _ kinds of elections there. it has been an exciting day for - kinds of elections there. it has been an exciting day for me, l kinds of elections there. it has been an exciting day for me, i | kinds of elections there. it has - been an exciting day for me, i have just been re—elected as the mayor of phoenix. some of our races will be too close to call for a while and i think that the presidential race will be in that range, it looks like we will send a democrat to the us senate, the abortion measure is passing by a wide margin, but with a presidential we were just ask for everybody�*s patience. we presidential we were just ask for everybody's patience.— everybody's patience. we were talkint everybody's patience. we were talking about _ everybody's patience. we were talking about the _ everybody's patience. we were talking about the potential- everybody's patience. we were talking about the potential for| talking about the potential for split ticket voting, some people may

have voted for the abortion ballot measure and passed for the senate candidate ruben gallego, but they have voted for donald trump alongside that, are you seeing any evidence of that?— alongside that, are you seeing any evidence of that? arizona voters are notoriously — evidence of that? arizona voters are notoriously independent. _ evidence of that? arizona voters are notoriously independent. we - evidence of that? arizona voters are notoriously independent. we see i evidence of that? arizona voters are notoriously independent. we see a l notoriously independent. we see a lot of registered independents but in my city the largest group of voters are people who have not joined a political party, who are independent, and that is why arizona is so purple right now, so people have complex philosophies. we are seeint as have complex philosophies. we are seeing as we _ have complex philosophies. we are seeing as we speak _ have complex philosophies. we are seeing as we speak the _ have complex philosophies. we are seeing as we speak the current - seeing as we speak the current results on the side of our screen, just over 51% of ballots counted, and let me have a quick look. o.i% difference between donald trump and kamala harris. what have been the major issues in arizona that voters have been deciding on, giving their independence, as you mention? today,

at the polls. — independence, as you mention? today, at the polls. so — independence, as you mention? today, at the polls, so people _ independence, as you mention? today, at the polls, so people who _ independence, as you mention? today, at the polls, so people who had - at the polls, so people who had brought their children, their daughters and said that they were voting for their daughter's future. for many of them that meant reproductive health care, but for others, who is the candidate who would best integrate school system to fight climate change. phoenix for many years was the fastest growing city, and we were finding it hard to keep up the incredible demand to live in the community and then a variety of border issues also come up. variety of border issues also come u -. , . variety of border issues also come u -. y . ., , ., variety of border issues also come u i _ , . ., , ., ., up. the newly elected mayor of phoenix, kate _ up. the newly elected mayor of phoenix, kate gallego, - up. the newly elected mayor of phoenix, kate gallego, thank l up. the newly elected mayor of. phoenix, kate gallego, thank you up. the newly elected mayor of- phoenix, kate gallego, thank you for joining us. going back to another battleground state, north carolina, helena humphrey has been there for us. it has been neck and neck for weeks. we have been watching it closely. you can see the numbers we have so far with about 87.4% of the

vote counted. how are people at that republican watch party where you are feeling at this point of the race? i feeling at this point of the race? i think they are feeling pretty optimistic. over the past half—an—hour, we have heard sporadic clapping and cheering and so on from people here in the room, having a good time, having a few drinks, but they have been watching those counties closely and what they have been saying as you just mentioned, with over 87% of the vote counted, they are seeing that donald trump is on 50.8% of expected doubts, we are stressing, kamala harris on 48.1. i have been crunching the numbers in a rudimentary fashion compared to 2020, but what we are seeing is that donald trump is gaining about 134,000 doubts over kamala harris. just to give you the context from 2020, you will remember it was the

closest race of any swing state. there, we were seeing a difference of 74,000 votes, and looking at some of 74,000 votes, and looking at some of those bellwether counties, nash county was when i was watching, because for the past three presidential election cycles it has predicted the winner, it is currently leaning towards donald trump at this stage so certainly some optimism with one women sing to me she was feeling encouraged by these results, people would be rolling down a hill and swimming across a lake tomorrow, that was a joke, but i am porting to the optimism at least being expressed here, but this state was and is being seen as a toss—up, but for donald trump, it is key, he has been campaigning hard here forfive days, he has held five rallies in the state. we knew that kamala harris was going to hold our rally in the city of raleigh, she ended up ending

her campaign in pennsylvania, but in terms of what it means for the harris campaign, she was to lose one of the blue ball states, that would mean 16 electoral college votes in north carolina that she would be looking to have an odour to plug that hole, and to soothe that pathway forward, and of course we don't know right now, but the sense is, and according to cbs news, is that right now, north carolina is leaning towards the republicans. we are approaching another key moment now, and we can bring you a projection, i believe. we are moments away, we have been bringing you different projections and results as they have been coming to us. we are looking closely at the swing states, but some of the reliably democratic and republican states have been coming into us on one of those we can bring you right now, the state of washington,

projected for kamala harris with its 12 electoral votes. washington state, the north west, west coast state heavily democratic and this is going to come harris with its 12 electoral votes. so that was an expected one for her but adding the numbers to the tally, that's important for kamala harris's campaign. harris at 165, trump at 211. we are going to keep bringing new results, we will see those numbers getting closer and closer together. right now this is where we stand was to go to christian, he is going to give us a bit of an update on the swing states. what more information do you have? georgia and north carolina — information do you have? georgia and north carolina because _ information do you have? georgia and north carolina because the _ information do you have? georgia and north carolina because the southern l north carolina because the southern states which count much quicker than the midwest states, these three here. around 90% of the vote counted so far. as our correspondence have been saying, the are starting to

narrow. so do not occurred yet but these two starting to lean towards donald trump. i would add some caution with the mid west states because in 2020 we did see the republicans jump out into the lead in the early part because the on the day ballot is counted quicker. there are big suburban areas like philadelphia, pittsburgh, milwaukee, which will take longer to count, and the mail—in, it will of that will be counted after the on the day ballot. so you might see democrat totals start to rise as our vote count continues, then out west, arizona, only 50% of it is in. around 20% of the vote in 2020 was mail—in ballot that was dropped off in ballot boxes in arizona on the day of the ballot, that will be counted last. so we will be waiting there and we are always waiting in nevada. it's largely a mail—in ballot in nevada but if there is a balance three or four days after voting day, they are

postmarked on the day of voting, then they will be counted. so it always takes longer in nevada. but thatis always takes longer in nevada. but that is the state of the race at the moment. there's a lot of red on the board. indeed, but we are waiting for more of those votes come in. let's cut back to the critical swing state of michigan. lone wells is standing by for us. we were talking about some of your reporting there, you have in speaking to democrat strategists who are telling you privately that they are feeling pessimistic at this point? are feeling pessimistic at this oint? ., �* , are feeling pessimistic at this oint? . �*, , , are feeling pessimistic at this oint? . �*, ,, ., , point? that's right. i spent a bit of time on _ point? that's right. i spent a bit of time on the _ point? that's right. i spent a bit of time on the floor— point? that's right. i spent a bit of time on the floor of- point? that's right. i spent a bit of time on the floor of this - point? that's right. i spent a bit| of time on the floor of this watch party in detroit and certainly the mood has changed in the last hour or so. at the start of the evening, people are pretty positive but increasingly they are telling me privately that they feel pessimistic. one told me just know it's not looking great, it's not over but it's not great. i think

that is the message a lot of people in this room are feeling right now. one thing that has made those nerves grow is that the senate race as well in michigan, elissa slotkin, the democratic candidate is here tonight, it is looking neck and neck with more than a quarter of the votes counted. there are still lots of votes to be counted, so everything could still change but i think it is the closeness of birth that senate race but also how the state is looking as a whole that is causing a lot of nerves of the democrat campaign. all right, ione wells for us. _ democrat campaign. all right, ione wells for us, thank _ democrat campaign. all right, ione wells for us, thank you so - democrat campaign. all right, ione wells for us, thank you so much. i democrat campaign. all right, ione i wells for us, thank you so much. we have democrat congressmen eric swalwell willis. we are seeing those numbers narrow a bit for the harris campaign in georgia and north carolina, a lot of red across the board, how are you feeling? well, we have not lost — board, how are you feeling? well, we have not lost a _ board, how are you feeling? well, we have not lost a state yet _ board, how are you feeling? well, we have not lost a state yet that - board, how are you feeling? well, we have not lost a state yet that we - have not lost a state yet that we won in 2020. so it's tight. in 2020,

we went late into the evening and voter intensity is high, and you're going to see a red mirage and blue mirage. just don't freak out, i would say to people. we are tired here, we had a candidate who considered the racejust here, we had a candidate who considered the race just under 100 days ago and was pitch perfect in her delivery and execution, so a long night ahead for us. i should ask ou, long night ahead for us. i should ask you. in _ long night ahead for us. i should ask you, in california, _ long night ahead for us. i should ask you, in california, there - long night ahead for us. i should ask you, in california, there are| ask you, in california, there are some very important house races as well for democrats and republicans. can you give us a sense of how things look so far?— can you give us a sense of how things look so far? they are tight! the are things look so far? they are tight! they are tight everywhere. - things look so far? they are tight! they are tight everywhere. in - they are tight everywhere. in those 45 house races they are too close to call right now. the goal is for kamala harris to be the next president, but we do have a backstop insurance policy which is to win the house and tivoli fence in donald trump and his worst instincts if we

have to. —— to really fence in. we can do that with three or four seats in california, we have already won a seatin in california, we have already won a seat in new york so we are on our way. seat in new york so we are on our wa . ., , ., ., way. one more question, we mentioned the fact our correspondence _ way. one more question, we mentioned the fact our correspondence has - way. one more question, we mentioned the fact our correspondence has been i the fact our correspondence has been talking to some strategists in michigan who are feeling a bit pessimistic at this point. where do you think, harris still has a good chance, where has she got turned out to drive up in areas around big cities? . , ., ., ,., to drive up in areas around big cities? . , ., ., , ., cities? philadelphia, also detroit, macomb county. _ cities? philadelphia, also detroit, macomb county, to _ cities? philadelphia, also detroit, macomb county, to see _ cities? philadelphia, also detroit, macomb county, to see if- cities? philadelphia, also detroit, macomb county, to see if she i cities? philadelphia, also detroit, macomb county, to see if she can flip the county which donald trump narrowly won in 2020. obviously it is milwaukee in wisconsin. the state party chair in wisconsin, he knows how to organise, just talk to him, he told me this is exactly what they expected as far as how the night would go and they expect a narrow

win. so buckle up, get the popcorn out, find some espresso and hold on tight. it's going to be a wild ride. we are working on the espresso here in the studio! thank you forjoining us. katty, if we can pick that up with you. not the espresso, i wish... we are hearing that some democrats are feeling pretty nervous right now. democrats are feeling pretty nervous riaht now. ~ ., ., ., �* , right now. whether i am on what's a- le i right now. whether i am on what's apple l message. _ right now. whether i am on what's apple i message, not _ right now. whether i am on what's apple i message, not getting i apple i message, not getting a single democrat that is feeling confident. that has changed, it's got more pronounced in the last hour or so. compared to the beginning of the night where i was hearing very positive things.— positive things. is this where the democrats _ positive things. is this where the democrats were in _ positive things. is this where the democrats were in 2020? i i positive things. is this where the j democrats were in 2020? i think it is about, that's _ democrats were in 2020? i think it is about, that's what _ democrats were in 2020? i think it is about, that's what i am - democrats were in 2020? i think it| is about, that's what i am thinking. i am a proud democrat, and there are

professional bed—wetters! they get nervous _ professional bed—wetters! they get nervous and the reality is, we talked — nervous and the reality is, we talked about the red mirage, we are seeing _ talked about the red mirage, we are seeing it. _ talked about the red mirage, we are seeing it, they kept polls open in places— seeing it, they kept polls open in places in pennsylvania... 95% of the votes of— places in pennsylvania... 95% of the votes of pennsylvania are in for the rural— votes of pennsylvania are in for the rural counties. it is the urban centres. _ rural counties. it is the urban centres, only 50% of the votes are in. i centres, only 50% of the votes are in i would — centres, only 50% of the votes are in. iwould much centres, only 50% of the votes are in. i would much rather be democrat in. i would much rather be democrat in pennsylvania right now. michigan and wisconsin, _ in pennsylvania right now. michigan and wisconsin, at _ in pennsylvania right now. michigan and wisconsin, at the _ in pennsylvania right now. michigan and wisconsin, at the moment it i and wisconsin, at the moment it is little i around the park. a beginning of the night there were people on the harris camp who suggested she would win more of these seven battleground states than these seven battleground states than the polls have suggested. but now i think everyone harris campaign is thinking, we have to hold onto that blue wall and even that is looking shaky. it's notjust the fact blue wall and even that is looking shaky. it's not just the fact that they are waiting for the votes are common, it is the other tell—tale signs. the fact that they are as close as they are in virginia, which nobody expected them to be, is not a great sign for democrat enthusiasm.

i have got people who have studied the demographic group saying it looks like men turned up for donald trump in the way that the campaign had hoped. trump in the way that the campaign had ho ed. �* , trump in the way that the campaign had hoed. h trump in the way that the campaign had hoed. �*, ., , had hoped. let's look at this, the pennsylvania _ had hoped. let's look at this, the pennsylvania counties _ had hoped. let's look at this, the pennsylvania counties where i had hoped. let's look at this, the pennsylvania counties where 95% of the votes are in. trump needs to do 1.2 points better in those counties to win, _ 1.2 points better in those counties to win, based on 20 21st he is currently— to win, based on 20 21st he is currently doing 2.5 points better in those _ currently doing 2.5 points better in those counties. so it looks really good _ those counties. so it looks really good. if you look at the campaigns, kamala _ good. if you look at the campaigns, kamala harris's campaign has stopped putting out— kamala harris's campaign has stopped putting out commentary from the press, _ putting out commentary from the press, you see the speaker of the house _ press, you see the speaker of the house of— press, you see the speaker of the house of flying to florida for a celebration with trump. again, there's— celebration with trump. again, there's more to come but when you see trump— there's more to come but when you see trump winning georgia, north carolina _ see trump winning georgia, north carolina by— see trump winning georgia, north carolina by all indications in the numbers— carolina by all indications in the numbers look really good in pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin, i would pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin, iwould rather pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin, i would rather be donald trump right— wisconsin, i would rather be donald trump right now than kamala harris. just to— trump right now than kamala harris. just to say. _ trump right now than kamala harris. just to say, we have some award from within the kamala harris campaign,

her campaign chair sent out a note to all the campaign staff saying, hang in there, basically, is the gist of it, saying pennsylvania, we over perform to turn out expectations, in michigan we are awaiting a significant number of votes are common but we have seen strong turnout. mentioning particularly the early vote on election day, we're still waiting on those counts as well. wisconsin, still a lot of votes waiting in milwaukee, of course the urban centre which will play —— which they will be hoping for. they say will be early morning for things come into focus. i early morning for things come into focus. ., _ early morning for things come into focus. ., ., ., ., focus. i would say also that you are riaht in focus. i would say also that you are right in the — focus. i would say also that you are right in the rural _ focus. i would say also that you are right in the rural counties _ focus. i would say also that you are right in the rural counties were i right in the rural counties were donald trump _ right in the rural counties were donald trump has _ right in the rural counties were donald trump has performed i right in the rural counties were i donald trump has performed better than he did — donald trump has performed better than he did four years— donald trump has performed better than he did four years ago- donald trump has performed better than he did four years ago but in. than he did four years ago but in other— than he did four years ago but in other counties, _ than he did four years ago but in other counties, he _ than he did four years ago but in other counties, he is, _ than he did four years ago but in other counties, he is, sorry, she than he did four years ago but in. other counties, he is, sorry, she is higher— other counties, he is, sorry, she is higherthan— other counties, he is, sorry, she is higher than hillary— other counties, he is, sorry, she is higher than hillary clinton - other counties, he is, sorry, she is higher than hillary clinton was. i higher than hillary clinton was. there _ higher than hillary clinton was. there is— higher than hillary clinton was. there isjust more _ higher than hillary clinton was. there isjust more of— higher than hillary clinton was. there isjust more of the vote. | higher than hillary clinton was. i there isjust more of the vote. they

have _ there isjust more of the vote. they have had historic— there isjust more of the vote. they have had historic turnout _ there isjust more of the vote. they have had historic turnout in - there isjust more of the vote. they have had historic turnout in the i have had historic turnout in the philly— have had historic turnout in the philly suburbs, _ have had historic turnout in the philly suburbs, which _ have had historic turnout in the philly suburbs, which is - have had historic turnout in the i philly suburbs, which is really the population centre. _ philly suburbs, which is really the population centre. so i— philly suburbs, which is really the population centre. so i hear- population centre. so i hear you, but when — population centre. so i hear you, but when you're talking - population centre. so i hear you, but when you're talking about i population centre. so i hear you, i but when you're talking about 20,000 votes right— but when you're talking about 20,000 votes right now — but when you're talking about 20,000 votes right now and _ but when you're talking about 20,000 votes right now and they— but when you're talking about 20,000 votes right now and they are - but when you're talking about 20,000 votes right now and they are still- votes right now and they are still hundreds— votes right now and they are still hundreds of— votes right now and they are still hundreds of thousands _ votes right now and they are still hundreds of thousands from i votes right now and they are still hundreds of thousands from thatj hundreds of thousands from that area, _ hundreds of thousands from that area, that — hundreds of thousands from that area, that is _ hundreds of thousands from that area, that is going _ hundreds of thousands from that area, that is going to go - hundreds of thousands from that area, that is going to go 70% i area, that is going to go 70% probably her— area, that is going to go 70% probably her way. _ area, that is going to go 7096 probably her way. area, that is going to go 70% robabl herwa . ~ �* , ., ~ probably her way. we've been talking all evenina probably her way. we've been talking all evening of— probably her way. we've been talking all evening of these _ probably her way. we've been talking all evening of these blue _ probably her way. we've been talking all evening of these blue wall- all evening of these blue wall states, pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin as if they were one block. there is proceeding, 1988, the only time that one of them split away and i wonder, do you think we are in a situation where we could see one of the blue wall states, even if democrats held onto pennsylvania, could you see one of the others splitting away?— splitting away? certainly. ithink we are in that _ splitting away? certainly. ithink we are in that atmosphere i splitting away? certainly. i think. we are in that atmosphere and the only person who has broken those numbers has been donald trump in 2016 _ numbers has been donald trump in 2016. thinking back to the fundamentals of this race, there has only been— fundamentals of this race, there has only been one vice president of the united _ only been one vice president of the united states to immediately succeed their ltoss— united states to immediately succeed their boss in the last 90 years in

american — their boss in the last 90 years in american history as it was george hw bush _ american history as it was george hw bush. ronald reagan had another 60% approval— bush. ronald reagan had another 60% approval rate at the time. we know what happened with al gore. bill clinton, — what happened with al gore. bill clinton, over 60% approval. and here you have _ clinton, over 60% approval. and here you have two thirds of americans saying we — you have two thirds of americans saying we are on the wrong track and you have _ saying we are on the wrong track and you have joe — saying we are on the wrong track and you have joe biden that approval ratings in — you have joe biden that approval ratings in the high 30s or low 40s. so the _ ratings in the high 30s or low 40s. so the headwinds against kamala harris are — so the headwinds against kamala harris are immense, not to mention the issues we talked about of the economy and immigration. gk, the issues we talked about of the economy and immigration. ok, well, we have a major— economy and immigration. ok, well, we have a major projection to - economy and immigration. ok, well, we have a major projection to bring l we have a major projection to bring for you now, one we have been waiting for for quite some time. we've been working so closely at the swing states, we haven't been able until this point to bring you any of those projections, but we do now have the state of north carolina. a projection that we can make at this hour, north carolina projected for donald trump. 16 electoral votes going to donald trump. this is a key win, he and his campaign spent a lot

of time there, even in that last week ahead of the election campaigning here, this is a state that he won in 2020, he won in 2016, the last time it went to a democrat was 2008, but still the democrats were feeling good about the possibility of this being a competitive race. well, it was, but until now, we can now say that north carolina has been projected for donald trump. let's see where this takes us on the counter. that puts donald trump up to 227, kamala harris still at 165. so he is edging closer to 3217 needed to win. so north carolina going for donald trump, an absolutely huge moment of this evening, the first of those seven key swing states we've been watching all night with you, going now to donald trump. let's go to christian and see what he can tell us about north carolina and how trump managed to wrap up victory here in north carolina. i started by

tellin: ou here in north carolina. i started by telling you at _ here in north carolina. i started by telling you at the _ here in north carolina. i started by telling you at the beginning - here in north carolina. i started by telling you at the beginning of i here in north carolina. i started by telling you at the beginning of the | telling you at the beginning of the night _ telling you at the beginning of the night that this was a very simple game of— night that this was a very simple game of mathematics. what donald trump _ game of mathematics. what donald trump had — game of mathematics. what donald trump had to do was improve his performance in the smaller rural conservative counties all across the map _ conservative counties all across the map that — conservative counties all across the map. that effectively is what he has done, he _ map. that effectively is what he has done, he has won 2% in countries like this— done, he has won 2% in countries like this across the top of the map. look— like this across the top of the map. look at these margins, they are big. not a _ look at these margins, they are big. not a big _ look at these margins, they are big. not a big vote count but when you put it all— not a big vote count but when you put it all together, he out matches what she's — put it all together, he out matches what she's doing in the research triangle area. she wasn't doing any worse here — triangle area. she wasn't doing any worse here thanjoe biden, but she was performing a little worse in each _ was performing a little worse in each of these rural counties was have _ each of these rural counties was have the — each of these rural counties was have the other thing we were looking at is adding _ have the other thing we were looking at is adding the west part of the state _ at is adding the west part of the state. now we're that actually, turnout — state. now we're that actually, turnout really did hold up for donald trump in these counties, so he cut— donald trump in these counties, so

he cut out— donald trump in these counties, so he cut out the vote, the provisions that were put in place in the western— that were put in place in the western part of the state, and i would _ western part of the state, and i would think he feels vindicated because — would think he feels vindicated because in the last three days of the campaign, he campaigned here in north— the campaign, he campaigned here in north carolina every single day and he got _ north carolina every single day and he got out his vote. when you look now for the — he got out his vote. when you look now for the situation looks like across — now for the situation looks like across the _ now for the situation looks like across the battleground states, for the first— across the battleground states, for the first time it is red right across— the first time it is red right across the board, and all seven battleground states. that will make democrats very uncomfortable indeed. as i said _ democrats very uncomfortable indeed. as i said a _ democrats very uncomfortable indeed. as i said a little earlier, you have to he _ as i said a little earlier, you have to be a little careful with this because _ to be a little careful with this because we saw in 2020 the red mirage — because we saw in 2020 the red mirage in — because we saw in 2020 the red mirage in the north—west, in the blue _ mirage in the north—west, in the blue wall— mirage in the north—west, in the blue wall states, then as the mailing _ blue wall states, then as the mailing vote was counted, as the urban— mailing vote was counted, as the urban and — mailing vote was counted, as the urban and suburban vote was counted, remember— urban and suburban vote was counted, remember there urban and suburban vote was counted, rememberthere is a urban and suburban vote was counted, remember there is a lot of it and it takes— remember there is a lot of it and it takesa— remember there is a lot of it and it takes a long — remember there is a lot of it and it takes a long time to come, then the blue votes— takes a long time to come, then the blue votes started to go up. but at the moment, this is a pretty bleak picture _ the moment, this is a pretty bleak picture for the democrats.

let's go over to the... there is a kamala harris watch party, and i love america editor sarah smith, though, we do not have her. is it looking like a grand night for kamala harris?— looking like a grand night for kamala harris? , ., ., kamala harris? there is no liquor in here! i am — kamala harris? there is no liquor in here! i am telling _ kamala harris? there is no liquor in here! i am telling you, _ kamala harris? there is no liquor in here! i am telling you, it _ kamala harris? there is no liquor in here! i am telling you, it is - here! i am telling you, it is patience _ here! i am telling you, it is patience. i've said this earlier. it will all— patience. i've said this earlier. it will all come down to the blue wall, seven— will all come down to the blue wall, seven swing states, the three in the blue wall, _ seven swing states, the three in the blue wall, period.— blue wall, period. what is interesting _ blue wall, period. what is interesting to _ blue wall, period. what is interesting to me - blue wall, period. what is interesting to me is i blue wall, period. what is interesting to me is a i blue wall, period. what is i interesting to me is a christian pointing out the western counties holding out for donald trump and so much of those western counties voted by mail this time round because of the damage, whichjust by mail this time round because of the damage, which just shows the republicans have worked hard on that

mail—in ballots theme which they had been so poor at. it mail-in ballots theme which they had been so poor at— been so poor at. it was a fundamental _ been so poor at. it was a fundamental change i been so poor at. it was a fundamental change that been so poor at. it was a i fundamental change that had to take place. some's rhetoric around mail—in voting specifically four years ago was awful. i think it was responsible for costing us a senate seatin responsible for costing us a senate seat in georgia. but he has changed that. he has turned that around that it is making an enormous difference. getting people to the ballots early for early voting, republicans have done well with that but mail—in voting we have always failed. even if you're losing going into election day you feel good about it as long as the margin is slim enough. it was really smart- — as the margin is slim enough. it was really smart- my _ as the margin is slim enough. it was really smart. my parents _ as the margin is slim enough. it was really smart. my parents are both i as the margin is slim enough. it was really smart. my parents are both 78 years _ really smart. my parents are both 78 years old _ really smart. my parents are both 78 years old and they both do mail—in ballots _ years old and they both do mail—in ballots in— years old and they both do mail—in ballots. in pennsylvania. we have -ot ballots. in pennsylvania. we have got to— ballots. in pennsylvania. we have got to make it easier. notjust to id got to make it easier. notjust to go back— got to make it easier. notjust to go back to — got to make it easier. notjust to go back to count the votes, we cannot— go back to count the votes, we cannot count these until the polls close _ cannot count these until the polls close we — cannot count these until the polls close. we should be home by midnight _ close. we should be home by

midnight. it is what it is. there would be no — midnight. it is what it is. there would be no theatre _ midnight. it is what it is. there would be no theatre and i midnight. it is what it is. there would be no theatre and no i midnight. it is what it is. there i would be no theatre and no drama midnight. it is what it is. there - would be no theatre and no drama in that whatsoever. we can go to north carolina, helena humphrey at a republican watch party, i can imagine there are lots of cheese going around there. that imagine there are lots of cheese going around there.— imagine there are lots of cheese going around there. that is right, about three _ going around there. that is right, about three minutes _ going around there. that is right, about three minutes ago, - going around there. that is right, about three minutes ago, a - going around there. that is right, i about three minutes ago, a cheer went up from people who are still here, lots of people were in a buoyant mood half—an—hour ago, as they started to see the map looking more and more red. to give you a brief look at the expected tallies, 48% for kamala harris, donald trump taking 50.8%, just doing that kind of sketch out maths, seeing a difference of 2.8%. that was my point that out is because in 2020, a difference of i.3%, so that would suggest donald trump and his campaign gaining ground. you were

mentioning the devastation from hurricane helene, we sought in the western part of the state, 25 counties impacted, these rural counties impacted, these rural counties that tended to be read as it was, but the question was would we see the response from the biden administration impact how people felt, and we saw a strong ground again from the republicans in the ridge mountains, the people who were hit hard by those who lost their homes who cannot get down from the mountains, they had republican volunteers there, bringing people down to polling stations, temporary polling stations, in tenths and so on, so we could be seeing some of the effects from that strong ground game from the republicans, but to give you some more context into the importance of north carolina, of all of those sunbelt states it is significant, when you have 16 electoral college here up for grabs, for kamala harris, if she is to see

any kind of hole in her blue wall, she then pivots to the sunbelt strategy to try to pick up some votes there, and for donald trump, this is a must win state. so, therefore, he will be feeling reassured. his campaign will be feeling reassured, knowing that that path to the presidency isn't quite as shaky as it could have looked without north carolina, but certainly what we're seeing is that of those rallies, all of that football from the top campaign in north carolina in the past five days, appears to have paid off —— not all of that footfall. days, appears to have paid off -- not all of that footfall.— not all of that footfall. helena humphrey _ not all of that footfall. helena humphrey is _ not all of that footfall. helena humphrey is in _ not all of that footfall. helena humphrey is in north - not all of that footfall. helena | humphrey is in north carolina, not all of that footfall. helena - humphrey is in north carolina, thank you. a projection for a senate seat we have been watching, in ohio, the republicans have picked that up from the sitting democrat, that is again for the republicans in the senate, we have been watching in terms of

who has control of both houses. we have another projection to bring to you sumi. we have another pro'ection to bring to ou sumi. ~ ., have another pro'ection to bring to ou sumi. ~ . ., ., you sumi. we have another pro'ection from the state — you sumi. we have another pro'ection from the state of i you sumi. we have another pro'ection from the state of nebraska. h you sumi. we have another pro'ection from the state of nebraska. it _ from the state of nebraska. it awards some electoral votes by whoever wins the most votes in the state and some by congressional districts and right now we have nebraska projected for donald trump, three of those with the five projected for donald trump. we should say that nebraska is a conservative, reliable republican state, so where does this bring donald trump, to 230, he is inching closer and closer. remember, that number he needs is 270. he is exactly a0 votes away to get the 270 and kamala harris is at 165, so you can see that part is getting easier for donald trump as we see north carolina called for him and the

electoral votes he is building on his part to 270. we mentioned that some at kamala harris's headquarters are feeling a little anxious, sarah smith, our north america editor, is there. what have the reactions been there? ., , , . there? there was absolute silence when north _ there? there was absolute silence when north carolina _ there? there was absolute silence when north carolina was - there? there was absolute silence when north carolina was called. i there? there was absolute silence i when north carolina was called. the dj is pumping up the music, the more the anxiety— dj is pumping up the music, the more the anxiety builds, so does the music— the anxiety builds, so does the music get— the anxiety builds, so does the music get louder and louder, but i have _ music get louder and louder, but i have to _ music get louder and louder, but i have to say— music get louder and louder, but i have to say that nobody is dancing or celebrating here in any way at all. or celebrating here in any way at alt there — or celebrating here in any way at all. there was discernibly a gasp at that call_ all. there was discernibly a gasp at that call from north carolina, but reassurance is coming up from the harris _ reassurance is coming up from the harris campaign telling people not to panic. _ harris campaign telling people not to panic, that it is still early, that— to panic, that it is still early, that they— to panic, that it is still early, that they have always said this race will go _ that they have always said this race will go to— that they have always said this race will go to the early hours of the morning. — will go to the early hours of the morning, if not into the coming days. _ morning, if not into the coming days, but— morning, if not into the coming days, but it _ morning, if not into the coming days, but it is very difficult to quett's— days, but it is very difficult to quett's -- _ days, but it is very difficult to quell's —— well people's trepidation, as they see the path to

the white _ trepidation, as they see the path to the white house narrowing. kamala harris _ the white house narrowing. kamala harris is _ the white house narrowing. kamala harris is not a head in the states you would — harris is not a head in the states you would need to win to do that and really— you would need to win to do that and really no _ you would need to win to do that and really no matter how hard they try to boost _ really no matter how hard they try to boost the atmosphere here, with reassurance or with the tunes, you -et reassurance or with the tunes, you get the _ reassurance or with the tunes, you get the odd — reassurance or with the tunes, you get the odd chair, that will be one of the _ get the odd chair, that will be one of the house of the senate sees the democrats — of the house of the senate sees the democrats have taken, the odd little bit of good _ democrats have taken, the odd little bit of good news that keeps them going. _ bit of good news that keeps them going, but as they are watching that road to— going, but as they are watching that road to the — going, but as they are watching that road to the white house, they are getting _ road to the white house, they are getting more and more worried. thanked — getting more and more worried. thanked that update from kamala harris's campaign headquarters right here in washington, dc. we can go to georgia now, and joined the chairman of the republican party there. good to have you with us tonight on bbc news. we haven't made a projection for georgia here yet but how are things looking and how is the republican party feeling at this point in the evening? taste republican party feeling at this point in the evening?— republican party feeling at this point in the evening? we are very confident that _ point in the evening? we are very

confident that president - point in the evening? we are very confident that president trump i point in the evening? we are very. confident that president trump has won georgia, there are 5.2 million votes state—wide, 5 million have been reported, president trump has a 135,000 vote majority so it is reallyjust 135,000 vote majority so it is really just won, 135,000 vote majority so it is reallyjust won, but it is clear to us here that he has done what he needs to do to win, i think he will win on a 2.5 — 3% majority, and we are very excited. we believe that president trump is in position to get that 270 electoral votes tonight. when you put georgia in his column it is a matter as you are talking about, one of the three dual states moving in his direction, looks like he has several ways to get there and we believe he going to do it. ~ ., ., ,, ~' get there and we believe he going to doit.~ ., ~ do it. what do you think has worked for donald trump _ do it. what do you think has worked for donald trump to _ do it. what do you think has worked for donald trump to this _ do it. what do you think has worked for donald trump to this point - do it. what do you think has worked for donald trump to this point if - for donald trump to this point if you are feeling confident that he has won the state, what was the message that really has worked? well, you know, a couple of things.

his message on the economy resonated with a lot of people living paycheque to paycheque in the state. it has focused on low propensity voters. we now about 20% of the voters. we now about 20% of the voters that voted in this, almost 1 million georgians did not vote in 2020, and we know how well president trump does with the low propensity less engaged voters, and the key turning point in this race was president trump coming to georgia in the immediate aftermath of hurricane helene, it was a great opportunity to show them together with our to show them together with our governor brian kemp working for the governor brian kemp working for the people of georgia, while the people of georgia, while the response from vice president harris response from vice president harris lagged behind, all of those things lagged behind, all of those things and the message in immigration, the and the message in immigration, the have them together with our tragic case of a university of tragic case of a university of georgia student murdered by an georgia student murdered by an illegal alien, all of those came illegal alien, all of those came together to put together his together to put together his

impressive victory here tonight. taste impressive victory here tonight. taste impressive victory here tonight. we impressive victory here tonight. we have heard about some concerns about voting, there were bomb threats, but has everything going smoothly enough for you to feel confident about the vote being completely counted? like i said, i vote being completely counted? like i said. i am — vote being completely counted? like isaid. i am not— vote being completely counted? l «e: i said, i am not a vote being completely counted? l fie: i said, lam not a math vote being completely counted? l fie: i said, i am not a math major, vote being completely counted? l fie: i said, lam not a math major, i'm vote being completely counted? l fie: i said, i am not a math major, i'm a lawyer with a graduate degree from the university of alabama, but i can tell you, of the 200,000 votes

the university of alabama, but i can tell you, of the 20( trump. ytes the university of alabama, but i can tell you, of the 20( trump. {line point. -- president trump. one of the most interesting _ point. -- president trump. one of the most interesting points - point. -- president trump. one of the most interesting points was i point. -- president trump. one of| the most interesting points was the low propensity voters, people who didn't vote in the last election, that was interesting what he said about the turnout amongst these voters. :, : :, , about the turnout amongst these voters. :, . ., , ~ voters. particularly looks like ounu voters. particularly looks like young men. _ voters. particularly looks like young men, where _ voters. particularly looks like young men, where donald i voters. particularly looks like - young men, where donald trump is outperforming as numbers compared to 2020, an area that the harris campaign knew that they had some problems and they had to run up the numbers. we haven't had blue and dark blue counties reporting yet in those blue ball state so there is a chance that in those counties she can run up the numbers with male inverters or with early votes, but it is looking harder for them, because it looks like young men did turn out for donald trump. i am reminded tonight that something that kellyanne conway, donald trump's campaign manager said

kellyanne conway, donald trump's campaign managersaid in kellyanne conway, donald trump's campaign manager said in 2016, the is a difference to voters between what offends you and what affects you. we were speaking about how there have been republic inverters we have said this time around, more so than in 2016, i do not love his rhetoric and some of the things i'm hearing but i am affected by inflation, i am offended by some of the things i hear but i am affected tjy the things i hear but i am affected by the fact my rent is 30% higher than before covid, the price of beef is a5% higher, and those are things that people feel, particularly those low propensity voters, there is an inflation growth gap, if you own your house, you're not feeling the impact of inflation, if you rent your house you are more likely to be working class american, perhaps some of those young male voters who turned out for donald trump. tiara turned out for donald trump. two thirds of americans own their homem _ thirds of americans own their home... :, , :,, thirds of americans own their home... :, , ., :, , home... for people rent that does not hel. home... for people rent that does not help- a _ home... for people rent that does not help. a primary _ home... for people rent that does not help. a primary source -

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exactly right, the overall i and their life better. that is i exactly right, the overall inflation numbers— exactly right, the overall inflation numbers 20%, _ exactly right, the overall inflation numbers 20%, electricity- exactly right, the overall inflation numbers 20%, electricity 30, i exactly right, the overall inflation i numbers 20%, electricity 30, grocery 22%, big _ numbers 20%, electricity 30, grocery 22%, big numbers— numbers 20%, electricity 30, grocery 22%, big numbers but— numbers 20%, electricity 30, grocery 22%, big numbers but i— numbers 20%, electricity 30, grocery 22%, big numbers but i want- numbers 20%, electricity 30, grocery 22%, big numbers but i want to i numbers 20%, electricity 30, grocery 22%, big numbers but i want to buildj 22%, big numbers but i want to build on something — 22%, big numbers but i want to build on something you _ 22%, big numbers but i want to build on something you said, _ 22%, big numbers but i want to build on something you said, katty, - 22%, big numbers but i want to build on something you said, katty, you i on something you said, katty, you spoke _ on something you said, katty, you spoke about— on something you said, katty, you spoke about the _ on something you said, katty, you spoke about the low— on something you said, katty, you spoke about the low propensity, . spoke about the low propensity, young, — spoke about the low propensity, young, male _ spoke about the low propensity, young, male voter. _ spoke about the low propensity, young, male voter. and - spoke about the low propensity, i young, male voter. and something spoke about the low propensity, - young, male voter. and something i'm seen nationally. — young, male voter. and something i'm seen nationally, the _ young, male voter. and something i'm seen nationally, the black— young, male voter. and something i'm seen nationally, the black vote, - seen nationally, the black vote, 81—15. _ seen nationally, the black vote, 81-15. harris, _ seen nationally, the black vote, 81—15, harris, 40 _ seen nationally, the black vote, 81—15, harris, 40 years- seen nationally, the black vote, 81—15, harris, 40 years ago- seen nationally, the black vote, 81—15, harris, 40 years ago it i seen nationally, the black vote, l 81—15, harris, 40 years ago it was 91—8. _ 81—15, harris, 40 years ago it was 91-8, joe — 81—15, harris, 40 years ago it was 91-8, joe biden _ 81—15, harris, 40 years ago it was 91—8, joe biden. the _ 81—15, harris, 40 years ago it was 91—8, joe biden. the hispanic- 81—15, harris, 40 years ago it was l 91—8, joe biden. the hispanic vote, 56—40. _ 91—8, joe biden. the hispanic vote, 56-40, four— 91—8, joe biden. the hispanic vote, 56-40, four years _ 91—8, joe biden. the hispanic vote, 56—40, four years ago, _ 91—8, joe biden. the hispanic vote, 56—40, four years ago, those i 91—8, joe biden. the hispanic vote, i 56—40, four years ago, those inroads have made _ 56—40, four years ago, those inroads have made an — 56—40, four years ago, those inroads have made an enormous _ 56—40, four years ago, those inroads have made an enormous difference . have made an enormous difference tonight _ have made an enormous difference tonight hie — have made an enormous difference toniaht. ~ :, ~ ., ., tonight. we will talk about that, some important _ tonight. we will talk about that, some important points - tonight. we will talk about that, some important points to i tonight. we will talk about that, i some important points to discuss, but we are coming up on the top of the other, so it is another one of those key moments in this race. we have had so many key moments, i know, but we will see more polls closing and we have more projections to bring you but at this point, we have had some big swing states closing and we are writing for those blue all states but for now, let's

get ready for another set of results. —— blue ball states. —— blue wall. it's midnight here in washington, 5am in london, and the polls in hawaii have now closed. that state is worth four electoral votes. a presidential candidate needs 270 votes to win the white house. we may be able to make a projection for that in a short amount of time. we cannot make a projection about hawaii at this time, but at this point, almost all of the polls are close and we are waiting for those key states. we can take a look at where we stand. donald trump as you can see on 230, kamala harris on 165. and he has had that key state

of north carolina project for him. we can project hawaii at this point for kamala harris and the four electoral votes so let's look at our tally again and see what impact those four votes have had. that is bringing her up to 169 and donald trump up to 230. and of course we are still waiting for some of those reliably democratic states that we just can't call at this point, some of them because they are still counting, others because they are too close for her at this point. this caucus to christian, who keeping a close eye on what's going on in all of these states. what can we tell at the moment when schiller well, this is the scenario started with the beginning of the night. we plugged in all the states without would go red and we thought would go blue. right now, nothing has changed hands, although of course we have been able to fill in north carolina as a hold for donald trump. we've

been talking in the last half an hour about georgia.— been talking in the last half an hour about georgia. over 9096 of the vote counted- _ hour about georgia. over 9096 of the vote counted. that _ hour about georgia. over 9096 of the vote counted. that is _ hour about georgia. over 9096 of the vote counted. that is narrowing. it i vote counted. that is narrowing. it is leaning republican so we will plug it in as read. now hejumps to 251 and if you put in pennsylvania, he gets home to 270. so pennsylvania for him would get him home and back to the white house. we want to focus a little bit on congress. let me just remind you of the scenario we had, this was how the senate looked in 2022. democrats have control, these two independents vote with democrats. republicans needed a net gain of two. let's have a look at the list, and i put on all the closest races we are looking at. 23

of them were incumbent democrats or independents. you can see that most of this list is democratic senators or independent senators that vote with democrats. this one we have already called, the formerjustice who has taken the seat of west virginia for the republicans, but all of these are very tight now. arizona they are in the lead, ruben gallego against kari lake. and also we think that ohio has now been called. that would be the two that we would need. the only caveat is here, the incumbent republican candidate. quite a tight race against an independent who was a union leader and is running as an independent and he's running it

pretty close. but as the map stands at the moment, we can tell you that very much republicans look to be taking back control of the senate. christian, thank you for that. and of course the important thing to note about the republicans taking back control of the senate, they currently have control of the house. if they could think of office as well, if donald trump is elected to a second nonconsecutive term, the republican party has three elements that make up our legislation is passed on all of the power would then rest with the republican party, so that is what they are aiming to do, so of course are the democrats but we will wait to see what happens. we are really looking at pennsylvania as we knew we were before today. we can go to tom who is there for us. still waiting, we have been discussing those urban areas, very heavily populated and populated by democrats? absolutely. i would describe _

populated by democrats? absolutely. i would describe the _ populated by democrats? absolutely. i would describe the mood _ populated by democrats? absolutely. i would describe the mood to - populated by democrats? absolutely. i would describe the mood to hear i i would describe the mood to hear but the mood has really disappeared over the last half because everyone cleared out from the upstairs of the bar we are at. people had been watching some of the coverage, i think a bit of a sense of disappointment as they were watching the progress that kamala harris was making as the counts were creeping up making as the counts were creeping up across pennsylvania. remember, philadelphia is very democrat leaning. full disclosure, ishould say there are still people downstairs but where we were, a lot of people just upped and went. and as you say, the urban areas really critical. we have been expecting another poll of votes to be posted, those results to be released from philadelphia, which could help us get a bit closer with more than 80% of the votes counted in pennsylvania. it looks as though, as you have been saying, for the harris campaign, she hasn't been quite

making the progress she would need to, to nudge above the 50% mark and beat donald trump in this very contentious state. when you compare some of the numbers to wherejoe biden was four years ago, she just isn't quite there. that still my change of course because there are still quite a number of votes still to come in, those results will be posted to the state authorities double then release them. so we're still waiting as i say, people here are not quite looking at what they hoped they would be at this stage of the night. and hoped they would be at this stage of the niuht. : ,:, :, hoped they would be at this stage of the niuht. : :, hoped they would be at this stage of the niuht.: :, , :,, the night. and some of those people in the upstairs _ the night. and some of those people in the upstairs bar _ the night. and some of those people in the upstairs bar have _ the night. and some of those people in the upstairs bar have moved i the night. and some of those people in the upstairs bar have moved to i in the upstairs bar have moved to the downstairs bar, maybe some of them have left, we have been hearing from the harris chair, she has kind of said this is going to be tomorrow, hang in there. is there any sense of coming to you from official day in pennsylvania as to how many more they see this taking? well, earlier i was at a counting

centre for philadelphia and chatting to officials. there are two things to officials. there are two things to say. one is that they are very aware of what happened in 2020 one for the first time because of the pandemic they were doing a mass mailing count. they had had mail—in voting before but not anything like they then, 2.5 million mail—in votes being counted, took him four days. everyone i spoke to today explained that they have radically transformed and improved the process. they have made it much more secure, more efficient and they have also had a lot more digitisation to some of the process. what you think is why we are seeing things develop much more quickly here. they had been talking about not getting a result until thursday but that is if it is extremely close. if there is a bit more bandwidth between the candidates, potentially we could be

looking at a result a bit faster than that, and possibly tomorrow. it's all about the bandwidth at this point. thank you so much for journeys. katty, just to get your thoughts on that. it is anyone's guess in pennsylvania. i thoughts on that. it is anyone's guess in pennsylvania.- thoughts on that. it is anyone's guess in pennsylvania. i have one democratic _ guess in pennsylvania. i have one democratic member _ guess in pennsylvania. i have one democratic member of _ guess in pennsylvania. i have one democratic member of congress. democratic member of congress texting me to say it is a red mirage and another democratic member of congress texting me to say it seems very unlikely that this is a red mirage. i think the question of the moment is, is this 2021 is a 2016? the way that kamala harris is underperforming relative to the way democrats might normally perform in certain areas and with certain demographics, and i'm particularly looking at hispanic voters, suggest that this could be 2016 at this point. donald trump seems to be performing particularly well with men, and hispanic voters. taste performing particularly well with men, and hispanic voters. we see

potentially — men, and hispanic voters. we see potentially the _ men, and hispanic voters. we see potentially the trickle-down i men, and hispanic voters. we see potentially the trickle-down effect potentially the trickle—down effect in those senate races as well as some of the house races, was always the concern with donald trump in 2020, was he kind of toxic at the top of the ballot for others but it doesn't look like that. obviously, they would _ doesn't look like that. obviously, they would know _ doesn't look like that. obviously, they would know much _ doesn't look like that. obviously, they would know much more i doesn't look like that. obviously, | they would know much more than doesn't look like that. obviously, i they would know much more than i bit about where this race is heading, it may go in even bigger numbers for republicans that people had anticipated. the republicans that people had anticipated.— republicans that people had anticiated. , :, , ., , anticipated. the blue wall states, i think kamala _ anticipated. the blue wall states, i think kamala harris _ anticipated. the blue wall states, i think kamala harris is _ anticipated. the blue wall states, i think kamala harris is up _ anticipated. the blue wall states, i think kamala harris is up in i think kamala harris is up in michigan, up in wisconsin. she is down _ michigan, up in wisconsin. she is down by— michigan, up in wisconsin. she is down by less than 12,000 votes in pennsylvania with 80% reported. still hundreds and hundreds of thousands of votes to be counted. many— thousands of votes to be counted. many from — thousands of votes to be counted. many from the urban centres, which are going _ many from the urban centres, which are going as— many from the urban centres, which are going as of now roughly 65% for her. are going as of now roughly 65% for her~ so— are going as of now roughly 65% for her. so again, it is going to come down _ her. so again, it is going to come down to— her. so again, it is going to come down to the — her. so again, it is going to come down to the wire. as far as the house, — down to the wire. as far as the house, i— down to the wire. as far as the house, i stillthink down to the wire. as far as the house, i still think and i stand by my predictions, i think that the democrats will take back the house,

ithink— democrats will take back the house, i think the _ democrats will take back the house, i think the republicans will take back the — i think the republicans will take back the senate. the ohio laws is going _ back the senate. the ohio laws is going to _ back the senate. the ohio laws is going to hurt but we will see. —— the ohio — going to hurt but we will see. —— the ohio loss. it's really about the white _ the ohio loss. it's really about the white house and it's going to be nip and tuck— white house and it's going to be nip and tuck so— white house and it's going to be nip and tuck so as we said earlier, get out the _ and tuck so as we said earlier, get out the popcorn. i�*m and tuck so as we said earlier, get out the popcorn.— and tuck so as we said earlier, get out the popcorn. i'm happy for you to all say red _ out the popcorn. i'm happy for you to all say red mirage _ out the popcorn. i'm happy for you to all say red mirage but _ out the popcorn. i'm happy for you to all say red mirage but i - out the popcorn. i'm happy for you to all say red mirage but i feel i to all say red mirage but i feel confident— to all say red mirage but i feel confident about _ to all say red mirage but i feel confident about trump - to all say red mirage but i feel confident about trump being i confident about trump being successful _ confident about trump being successful tonight. - confident about trump being| successful tonight. obviously confident about trump being i successful tonight. obviously the senate _ successful tonight. obviously the senate looks _ successful tonight. obviously the senate looks very _ successful tonight. obviously the senate looks very good. - successful tonight. obviously the senate looks very good. the i successful tonight. obviously the i senate looks very good. the house is a different _ senate looks very good. the house is a different story, _ senate looks very good. the house is a different story, we _ senate looks very good. the house is a different story, we just— senate looks very good. the house is a different story, we just don't- a different story, we just don't have _ a different story, we just don't have enough— a different story, we just don't have enough data _ a different story, we just don't have enough data yet - a different story, we just don't have enough data yet on i a different story, we just don't| have enough data yet on those a different story, we just don't- have enough data yet on those races. what we _ have enough data yet on those races. what we do _ have enough data yet on those races. what we do know— have enough data yet on those races. what we do know is _ have enough data yet on those races. what we do know is that _ have enough data yet on those races. what we do know is that we - what we do know is that we republicans _ what we do know is that we republicans have _ what we do know is that we republicans have been- what we do know is that we i republicans have been outspent what we do know is that we - republicans have been outspent by a lot. i republicans have been outspent by a lot i think_ republicans have been outspent by a lot. i think those _ republicans have been outspent by a lot. i think those races _ republicans have been outspent by a lot. i think those races to _ republicans have been outspent by a lot. i think those races to the - lot. i think those races to the extent— lot. i think those races to the extent they— lot. i think those races to the extent they have _ lot. i think those races to the extent they have been - lot. i think those races to the extent they have been able . lot. i think those races to the | extent they have been able to localise — extent they have been able to localise issues, _ extent they have been able to localise issues, that— extent they have been able to localise issues, that they - extent they have been able to localise issues, that they are i extent they have been able to - localise issues, that they are able to make _ localise issues, that they are able to make abortion— localise issues, that they are able to make abortion a _ localise issues, that they are able to make abortion a bigger- localise issues, that they are able to make abortion a bigger issue . localise issues, that they are able| to make abortion a bigger issue at the republican— to make abortion a bigger issue at the republican candidate - to make abortion a bigger issue at the republican candidate isn't - to make abortion a bigger issue at| the republican candidate isn't able to separate — the republican candidate isn't able to separate themselves _ the republican candidate isn't able to separate themselves in - the republican candidate isn't able to separate themselves in the - the republican candidate isn't able to separate themselves in the way| to separate themselves in the way that trump— to separate themselves in the way that trump has, _ to separate themselves in the way that trump has, that _ to separate themselves in the way that trump has, that can- to separate themselves in the way that trump has, that can play- to separate themselves in the way that trump has, that can play a i to separate themselves in the way| that trump has, that can play a big part _ that trump has, that can play a big part but _ that trump has, that can play a big part but the — that trump has, that can play a big part. but the presidency, - that trump has, that can play a big part. but the presidency, i- that trump has, that can play a big part. but the presidency, ifeel- part. but the presidency, ifeel good _ part. but the presidency, ifeel good about— part. but the presidency, ifeel good about the _ part. but the presidency, ifeel good about the senate, - part. but the presidency, ifeel good about the senate, i- part. but the presidency, ifeel good about the senate, i feel. part. but the presidency, ifeel- good about the senate, i feel good about— good about the senate, i feel good about house — good about the senate, i feel good about house and _ good about the senate, i feel good about house and we _ good about the senate, i feel good about house and we just _ good about the senate, i feel good about house and we just don't - good about the senate, i feel good | about house and we just don't know enough _ about house and we just don't know enough yet —

about house and we just don't know enough yet to — about house and we just don't know enough yet to make _ about house and we just don't know enough yet to make a _ about house and we just don't know enough yet to make a good - enough yet to make a good prediction _ enough yet to make a good prediction-— enough yet to make a good prediction. enough yet to make a good rediction. '1' ~ , t, g, prediction. about $16 billion are sent in a prediction. about $16 billion are spent in a cycle _ prediction. about $16 billion are spent in a cycle in _ prediction. about $16 billion are spent in a cycle in this - prediction. about $16 billion are| spent in a cycle in this campaign prediction. about $16 billion are . spent in a cycle in this campaign on house _ spent in a cycle in this campaign on house races — spent in a cycle in this campaign on house races. democrats spent about 330 million _ house races. democrats spent about 330 million versus the nrcc and the congressional leadership, 252 n1ittion— congressional leadership, 252 million. so about 60 million more for the _ million. so about 60 million more for the democrats on the house side. that is_ for the democrats on the house side. that is also— for the democrats on the house side. that is also nip and tuck but i do think. _ that is also nip and tuck but i do think, especially they will pick up some _ think, especially they will pick up some seats in new york, we will see about— some seats in new york, we will see about some — some seats in new york, we will see about some seats in wisconsin, we will see _ about some seats in wisconsin, we will see how it shakes out.- about some seats in wisconsin, we will see how it shakes out. some of those key races, _ will see how it shakes out. some of those key races, but _ will see how it shakes out. some of those key races, but also, - will see how it shakes out. some of those key races, but also, this - will see how it shakes out. some of those key races, but also, this is i will see how it shakes out. some of those key races, but also, this is al those key races, but also, this is a game of margins. it really about who can lose less badly and some of the areas. kamala harris said rural areas, and for donald trump in urban areas. we are seeing the 18 to 29—year—old group breaking at least four men for kamala harris. this was

always a question, of course he was targeting young men with things like going on podcasts withjoe rogan and reaching out to young men in the black and latina community but the question was, could get them go out and vote? —— latino community. what we're seeing is that yes, he did manage to get them out to vote. lip manage to get them out to vote. up until manage to get them out to vote. ii? until now, the theory was that he would rather have her hand in his because women historically had this track record of voting in greater numbers than men had voted and that may still turn out to be the case. maybe more women voters overall than young men. but she had to run up the numbers with all the women and particularly with younger women, and it doesn't look like she has managed to do that in enough numbers so far to do that in enough numbers so far to outweigh his performance. donald trump has always had this ability, he had it in 2016 and in 2020, to drive up turnout on both sides. when

he had his campaign, there was said, he had his campaign, there was said, he has this ability to reach voters who are normally difficult for a conventional candidate, because he is nothing if not unconventional. the point you make about the unconventional way that he has run his campaign in order to reach out to people. — his campaign in order to reach out to people. i— his campaign in order to reach out to people, i am the young guy that had been _ to people, i am the young guy that had been around politics long enough that when— had been around politics long enough that when i— had been around politics long enough that when i hear that trump turns down _ that when i hear that trump turns down the — that when i hear that trump turns down the classic historic 60 cap words _ down the classic historic 60 cap words -- — down the classic historic 60 cap words —— 60 minutes interview, they are getting _ words —— 60 minutes interview, they are getting a — words —— 60 minutes interview, they are getting a bigger audience every week than— are getting a bigger audience every week than the person who sits in the seat of— week than the person who sits in the seat of walter cronkite. this is a bil seat of walter cronkite. this is a big shitt— seat of walter cronkite. this is a big shift in— seat of walter cronkite. this is a big shift in the media landscape and it is to _ big shift in the media landscape and it is to the _ big shift in the media landscape and it is to the credit for paying attention to it. to it is to the credit for paying attention to it.— it is to the credit for paying attention to it. to come back to this point. _ attention to it. to come back to this point. the _ attention to it. to come back to this point, the traditional - attention to it. to come back to| this point, the traditional media landscape, but i think caitriona does have another projection. indeed we do. another race projection to bring you at this time. we can predict virginia is

projected as a win for kamala harris. and the 13 electoral votes that go along with virginia, lets have a look and see what difference that makes to that quest to get to 270. you can brings her up to 182, donald trump on 230. so inching ever closer to that line to take them on into the white house, but as we've been saying, it is those key swing states, the ones sometimes voting republican, sometimes voting democrat that we have been keeping a close eye on as to how they get there. let's carry on the discussion about what we were talking about there, the podcasts and so on, the you think this has changed how campaigning will happen now? we saw the democrats without ground game particularly in your state, patrick, pennsylvania, doorknocking, rallying

the troops, having the volunteers, versus actually doing a podcast to so much more efficient with in terms of time and money. ghell harris and tim walz have played — ghell harris and tim walz have played to — ghell harris and tim walz have played to win. they have travelled. i played to win. they have travelled. i was _ played to win. they have travelled. i was with — played to win. they have travelled. i was with them yesterday. she was in five _ i was with them yesterday. she was in five cities — i was with them yesterday. she was in five cities in pennsylvania yesterday. sunday, four cities in michigan — yesterday. sunday, four cities in michigan. it is not like 2016, with all due _ michigan. it is not like 2016, with all due respect, hillary clinton did not get _ all due respect, hillary clinton did not get out as much as kamala harris has done _ not get out as much as kamala harris has done. should she have done other podcast? _ has done. should she have done other podcast? yes. but everyone is going to do— podcast? yes. but everyone is going to do this _ podcast? yes. but everyone is going to do this. we podcast? yes. but everyone is going to do this. ~ ., , ., . to do this. we are 'ust watching some be h to do this. we are 'ust watching some live pictures_ to do this. we are just watching some live pictures there - to do this. we are just watching | some live pictures there coming to do this. we are just watching i some live pictures there coming to us from florida. these are people, we believe, outside the convention centre or at least along the road so we may be looking at donald trump getting ready orjd vance, who is in florida as well, getting ready to

make their way. whatever may happen later on. sorry for interrupting. i later on. sorry for interrupting. i would not be shot, but, yes, you have _ would not be shot, but, yes, you have to _ would not be shot, but, yes, you have to give _ would not be shot, but, yes, you have to give the people the right to vote _ have to give the people the right to vote. ., .., , have to give the people the right to vote. ., , vote. you can see the red maga of the peeple — vote. you can see the red maga of the peeple on _ vote. you can see the red maga of the people on the _ vote. you can see the red maga of the people on the trump _ vote. you can see the red maga of the people on the trump campaignj the people on the trump campaign there. it has filled in what, the convention centre in west palm beach. ., , ., , convention centre in west palm beach. ., , ., beach. the harris campaign has not been caught — beach. the harris campaign has not been caught flat-footed _ beach. the harris campaign has not been caught flat-footed the - beach. the harris campaign has not been caught flat-footed the way - beach. the harris campaign has not| been caught flat-footed the way the been caught flat—footed the way the clinton campaign was in 2016, and we have seen aoc playing video games on tiktok, they are trying! they are doing something! she tiktok, they are trying! they are doing something!— tiktok, they are trying! they are doing something! she did some of those podcast. .. _ doing something! she did some of those podcast... it— doing something! she did some of those podcast... it is— doing something! she did some of those podcast. .. it is the - those podcast... it is the combination _ those podcast... it is the combination of _ those podcast... it is the combination of word - those podcast... it is the combination of word you | those podcast. .. it is the -

combination of word you can move those podcast. .. it is the _ combination of word you can move the numbers, finding out where, and using the tools necessary to meet those people where they are, and it is difficult to meet young men especially who may be disengaged and that trump cabin has done that, it is reaching out to minorities, working hard and advance balance, the republicans have added several hundred thousand new voters to pennsylvania so it is notjust one thing, it makes the narrative more interesting but it is a whole host of things. interesting but it is a whole host of thins. ., ., ., ., of things. you have to do everything. _ of things. you have to do everything, really. - of things. you have to do everything, really. let'sl of things. you have to do i everything, really. let's go of things. you have to do - everything, really. let's go to michigan, one of those close states we have been keeping an eye on, and we have been keeping an eye on, and we can speak to lone wells. what is the latest? what can you tell us? the mood certainly dropped in the last hour, i have spoken to a couple of democrats here in the room and some in washington as well. the message that a couple of them have said without prompting is that i

would rather be in donald trump's camp right now than kamala harris. that speaks to the mood here in michigan which is not very positive among democrats. they are very nervous about how close it is looking, and at a state—wide level in terms of results coming through but also in the senate race in michigan, which is a key race for the democrats. it would be extraordinary, if the republicans managed to gain that seat. the republicans have not had a senator in michigan for three decades. there are a lot of nerves about how tight that race is looking. i should caveat it, not all of the votes have been counted, the majority have still to be counted, but the early figures are causing a lot of anxiety and another and location of the floor down below was full of people having drinks, laughing and dancing and singing along to the music and it has emptied out quite a lot in

the last hour or so. i think a suggestion of how people are feeling, which is potentially one of anxiety and nerves, it is early days, with results still coming through. days, with results still coming throu~h. . ~ days, with results still coming throu~h. ., ,, i. days, with results still coming throu~h. . ,, ., days, with results still coming throu~h. . ~' ., ., days, with results still coming throu~h. . ., ., , ., through. thank you for that update from michigan. _ through. thank you for that update from michigan. christian, - through. thank you for that update from michigan. christian, we - through. thank you for that update from michigan. christian, we want| through. thank you for that update i from michigan. christian, we want to zoom in on the counties we have been watching closely. zoom in on the counties we have been watching closely-— watching closely. there is a lot of anxiety amongst _ watching closely. there is a lot of anxiety amongst democrats - watching closely. there is a lot of anxiety amongst democrats in . anxiety amongst democrats in michigan, we have spoken about the red mirage. this is the biggest county, wayne county, over a million people, they have only counted 50%, still 20% of the vote to coming outcome, in lansing, the state capital, england, still to put 50% to come, and in grand rapids, still around 30% of the vote. and remember i told you about the cherry county of grand traverse, which is a bit of a bellwether, she is in front up

there so maybe there are some clues there. this is some of the counties in michigan which slipped in 2020, she is still ahead there, that is a mixture of urban and rural, just as kent county is over here. there is a lot of raid on the map across michigan, but obviously there is much more vote in the nine counties we are looking at in this area, wherejoe biden ran up the score on the 2020 than there is in these red counties. you just have to be a little bit cautious. we count the votes in where we have got to. irate votes in where we have got to. we have changed the panel and got some fresh blood into the studio, a former republican congressman from illinois, stephanie murphy, congresswoman from florida, and you guys have been crunching the numbers, chatting to your party colleagues for the last while, where do you think things are at now, is

this a bad day for the democrats, we have heard that some people are leaving parties, what do you think, stephanie? irate leaving parties, what do you think, stehanie? ~ ., , ., stephanie? we have seen that the senate has moved _ stephanie? we have seen that the senate has moved into _ stephanie? we have seen that the senate has moved into republican hands. i think that the house are still in play. with that caveat, we are in that plus two, some in new york and one in alabama, so the night is still long, there's still more to come on, and especially of california, seeks that the democrats will be looking to pick up, and of course, the white house is still... waiting to see. irate course, the white house is still... waiting to see-— course, the white house is still... waiting to see. we have been looking at some shots — waiting to see. we have been looking at some shots of— waiting to see. we have been looking at some shots of the _ waiting to see. we have been looking at some shots of the convention - at some shots of the convention centre in west palm beach. the crowd is filling up, and you are sitting with a big grin on yourface, do you have a different view of things? i

have a different view of things? i will make a bold prediction right now _ will make a bold prediction right now i— will make a bold prediction right now i do — will make a bold prediction right now. i do believe donald trump will be the _ now. i do believe donald trump will be the 47th — now. i do believe donald trump will be the 47th president of america. actuativ. — be the 47th president of america. actually, there is a lot of confidence that his team believes that they— confidence that his team believes that they will sweep the blue wall. let's say— that they will sweep the blue wall. let's say that they lose one, you -ot let's say that they lose one, you got two — let's say that they lose one, you got two or— let's say that they lose one, you got two or three, that is still a landslide _ got two or three, that is still a landslide. if that is the case, there — landslide. if that is the case, there has— landslide. if that is the case, there has got to be a lot of self reflection — there has got to be a lot of self reflection within the democratic party— reflection within the democratic party and the united states of america — party and the united states of america to where they are losing ground _ america to where they are losing ground when it comes to the generic para people identifying publicly as republicans versus democrats. that changes _ republicans versus democrats. that changes the demographic shift, the democrats thought they would have term and _ democrats thought they would have term and america but the latinos that we _ term and america but the latinos that we are — term and america but the latinos that we are seeing an exit polls is a big _ that we are seeing an exit polls is a big reason why. —— the latina vote~ _ a big reason why. -- the latina vote. . , a big reason why. -- the latina vote. .,, ., , a big reason why. -- the latina vote. ., , . ., vote. has donald trump changed the

re - ublican vote. has donald trump changed the republican party _ vote. has donald trump changed the republican party as _ vote. has donald trump changed the republican party as well, _ vote. has donald trump changed the republican party as well, changing . republican party as well, changing those long held serve the particularly around abortion. yers chance particularly around abortion. yers change the _ particularly around abortion. yers change the party _ particularly around abortion. yers change the party like _ particularly around abortion. yers change the party like ronald regan did, in _ change the party like ronald regan did, i'm the reason —— he is the reason — did, i'm the reason —— he is the reason that— did, i'm the reason —— he is the reason that i— did, i'm the reason —— he is the reason that i am a republican. do not catt— reason that i am a republican. do not call me — reason that i am a republican. do not call me alex, for all of those who are — not call me alex, for all of those who are fans of family ties. bernie sanders— who are fans of family ties. bernie sanders and — who are fans of family ties. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren had been _ sanders and elizabeth warren had been far— sanders and elizabeth warren had been far left progressives and now they are _ been far left progressives and now they are mainstream now that the sguad _ they are mainstream now that the squad came along and i don't see the repubtican— squad came along and i don't see the republican party any different. we can see republican party any different. , can see police moving ahead of a murder case, we expect at some point, donald trump orjd vance getting to that convention centre, we will let you know more than we know who is —— we can see police moving ahead of a motorcade. if the

democratic lost two or three of the blue wall states, that would be catastrophic for them. than? blue wall states, that would be catastrophic for them.— catastrophic for them. any loss would be catastrophic- catastrophic for them. any loss would be catastrophic for - catastrophic for them. any loss would be catastrophic for the l would be catastrophic for the democrats _ would be catastrophic for the democrats. but _ would be catastrophic for the democrats. but i— would be catastrophic for the democrats. but i think, - would be catastrophic for the democrats. but i think, you. would be catastrophic for the - democrats. but i think, you know, that is— democrats. but i think, you know, that is right, — democrats. but i think, you know, that is right, i— democrats. but i think, you know, that is right, i think— democrats. but i think, you know, that is right, i think the _ that is right, i think the assumption— that is right, i think the assumption up- that is right, i think the assumption up until- that is right, i think the - assumption up until tonight that is right, i think the _ assumption up until tonight has been that this _ assumption up until tonight has been that this would — assumption up until tonight has been that this would be _ assumption up until tonight has been that this would be and _ assumption up until tonight has been that this would be and it _ assumption up until tonight has been that this would be and it grimly - that this would be and it grimly ctose _ that this would be and it grimly ctose race, _ that this would be and it grimly close race, and _ that this would be and it grimly close race, and that _ that this would be and it grimly close race, and that would - that this would be and it grimlyi close race, and that would make that this would be and it grimly i close race, and that would make it less than— close race, and that would make it less than an — close race, and that would make it less than an extremely _ close race, and that would make it less than an extremely close - close race, and that would make it less than an extremely close race, we think— less than an extremely close race, we think the — less than an extremely close race, we think the republicans - less than an extremely close race, we think the republicans will- less than an extremely close race, we think the republicans will take | we think the republicans will take the senate, — we think the republicans will take the senate, we _ we think the republicans will take the senate, we think— we think the republicans will take the senate, we think the - we think the republicans will take l the senate, we think the democrats may take _ the senate, we think the democrats may take the — the senate, we think the democrats may take the house _ the senate, we think the democrats may take the house but _ the senate, we think the democrats may take the house but maybe - the senate, we think the democrats may take the house but maybe not| the senate, we think the democrats. may take the house but maybe not by as big _ may take the house but maybe not by as big a _ may take the house but maybe not by as big a margin— may take the house but maybe not by as big a margin as— may take the house but maybe not by as big a margin as howard, _ may take the house but maybe not by as big a margin as howard, and - may take the house but maybe not by as big a margin as howard, and somej as big a margin as howard, and some of these _ as big a margin as howard, and some of these races — as big a margin as howard, and some of these races in _ as big a margin as howard, and some of these races in the _ as big a margin as howard, and some of these races in the house, - as big a margin as howard, and some of these races in the house, this- as big a margin as howard, and some of these races in the house, this is. of these races in the house, this is part of— of these races in the house, this is part of what— of these races in the house, this is part of what is _ of these races in the house, this is part of what is causing _ of these races in the house, this is part of what is causing so - of these races in the house, this is part of what is causing so much - part of what is causing so much angst— part of what is causing so much angst amongst _ part of what is causing so much angst amongst democrats. - part of what is causing so much angst amongst democrats. i. part of what is causing so much| angst amongst democrats. i am part of what is causing so much - angst amongst democrats. i am not making — angst amongst democrats. i am not making any— angst amongst democrats. i am not making any botd — angst amongst democrats. i am not making any bold predictions - angst amongst democrats. i am not| making any bold predictions because i making any bold predictions because i don't _ making any bold predictions because i don't do _ making any bold predictions because idon't do that— making any bold predictions because idon't do that but— making any bold predictions because i don't do that but the _ making any bold predictions because i don't do that but the democrats - making any bold predictions because i don't do that but the democrats i. i don't do that but the democrats i have heard — i don't do that but the democrats i have heard from _ idon't do that but the democrats i have heard from over— i don't do that but the democrats i have heard from over the - i don't do that but the democrats i have heard from over the course . i don't do that but the democrats i| have heard from over the course of the last _ have heard from over the course of the last hour— have heard from over the course of the last hour at _ have heard from over the course of the last hour at somewhere - 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anxious and apoplectic. i am not hearing from many who - anxious and apoplectic. i am not hearing from many who are - anxious and apoplectic. i am not. hearing from many who are saying, yes, we _ hearing from many who are saying, yes, we got— hearing from many who are saying, yes, we got this _ hearing from many who are saying, yes, we got this. there _ hearing from many who are saying, yes, we got this. there is - hearing from many who are saying, yes, we got this. there is a - yes, we got this. there is a narrowing _ yes, we got this. there is a narrowing path. _ yes, we got this. there is a narrowing path. with - yes, we got this. there is a narrowing path. with eachi yes, we got this. there is a - narrowing path. with each narrowing of the _ narrowing path. with each narrowing of the path, — narrowing path. with each narrowing of the path, little _ narrowing path. with each narrowing of the path, little to _ narrowing path. with each narrowing of the path, little to no _ narrowing path. with each narrowing of the path, little to no room - narrowing path. with each narrowing of the path, little to no room for- of the path, little to no room for error for— of the path, little to no room for error for vice _ of the path, little to no room for error for vice president- of the path, little to no room for error for vice president harris, l of the path, little to no room for. error for vice president harris, she -ot error for vice president harris, she got some _ error for vice president harris, she got some good _ error for vice president harris, she got some good news— error for vice president harris, she got some good news out _ error for vice president harris, she got some good news out of- error for vice president harris, she i got some good news out of nebraska, but the _ got some good news out of nebraska, but the three — got some good news out of nebraska, but the three big _ got some good news out of nebraska, but the three big states _ got some good news out of nebraska, but the three big states are _ got some good news out of nebraska, but the three big states are still- but the three big states are still in ptav — but the three big states are still in play. but— but the three big states are still in play. but to _ but the three big states are still in play. but to disagree - but the three big states are still in play. but to disagree with - but the three big states are still. in play. but to disagree with your point, _ in play. but to disagree with your point, shocking _ in play. but to disagree with your point, shocking but _ in play. but to disagree with your point, shocking but i _ in play. but to disagree with your point, shocking but i will- in play. but to disagree with your point, shocking but i will do - in play. but to disagree with yourj point, shocking but i will do that. i point, shocking but i will do that. ithink— point, shocking but i will do that. i think this — point, shocking but i will do that. i think this is _ point, shocking but i will do that. i think this is all, _ point, shocking but i will do that. i think this is all, overwhelmingly all about— i think this is all, overwhelmingly all about inflation, _ i think this is all, overwhelmingly all about inflation, and _ i think this is all, overwhelmingly all about inflation, and not- i think this is all, overwhelmingly all about inflation, and not a - all about inflation, and not a massive _ all about inflation, and not a massive shifts _ all about inflation, and not a massive shifts of _ all about inflation, and not a massive shifts of the - all about inflation, and not a . massive shifts of the population that thought _ massive shifts of the population that thought they— massive shifts of the population that thought they were - massive shifts of the population i that thought they were democratic and now— that thought they were democratic and now they— that thought they were democratic and now they are _ that thought they were democratic and now they are part _ that thought they were democratic and now they are part of _ that thought they were democratic and now they are part of the - that thought they were democratic and now they are part of the new. and now they are part of the new trump _ and now they are part of the new trump coalition, _ and now they are part of the new trump coalition, this _ and now they are part of the new trump coalition, this is - and now they are part of the new trump coalition, this is a - and now they are part of the newi trump coalition, this is a backlash to inflation, — trump coalition, this is a backlash to inflation, with _ trump coalition, this is a backlash to inflation, with some _ trump coalition, this is a backlash to inflation, with some voters, i to inflation, with some voters, concerns— to inflation, with some voters, concerns about _ to inflation, with some voters, concerns about vertical - to inflation, with some voters, i concerns about vertical security but that is _ concerns about vertical security but that is not — concerns about vertical security but that is not the _ concerns about vertical security but that is not the dominant _ concerns about vertical security but that is not the dominant issue. i that is not the dominant issue. inflation— that is not the dominant issue. inflation is— that is not the dominant issue. inflation is the _ that is not the dominant issue. inflation is the driving - that is not the dominant issue. inflation is the driving force. i that is not the dominant issue. | inflation is the driving force. —— concerns— inflation is the driving force. —— concerns about _ inflation is the driving force. —— concerns about voter— inflation is the driving force. —— concerns about voter security. i inflation is the driving force. —— i concerns about voter security. let’s concerns about voter security. let's

to concerns about voter security. let's no to our concerns about voter security. let's go to our correspondence, - concerns about voter security. go to our correspondence, now concerns about voter security.- go to our correspondence, now that opec has been there for us. ari imagine that that optimism and confidence is spreading then room —— are corresponding, nada tawfik. people are taking selfies, they have a little bit of a pep, dancing to the music, dancing to the ymca song, i have spoken to supporters and they are glued to the results. some women have a paper counting donald trump's electoral bouts and the margin of victory as it progresses throughout the night so people are very invested. they clearly feel the momentum is on their side, so people, when there is a result that is favourable to donald trump on the screen, they have become more animated, cheering more loudly, showing their excitement, but what is really interesting is the fact

that all of them to show a bit of caution. they say that they want to wait until there is a final result. and some of them have raised the claims that donald trump has made in the past, claims of fraud in elections. many people have repeated that and said they want to wait until there is a final result to really celebrate here, and clearly, it is going to take some time still for that. thank you for that update from headquarters, nada.- for that. thank you for that update from headquarters, nada. people are watchin: from headquarters, nada. people are watching the — from headquarters, nada. people are watching the selection _ from headquarters, nada. people are watching the selection around - from headquarters, nada. people are watching the selection around the i watching the selection around the world to see who is going to win and what it will mean for their country and perhaps nobody is watching it as closely as those in russia, and we can go to our russia correspondent steve rosenberg, who is in sochi. it looks like donald trump is having a good night, so we don't know the definitive result at this point, but

what would it mean for us russia relations, another term of donald trump? relations, another term of donald trum - ?, , relations, another term of donald trum? , ., ,., relations, another term of donald trum? , ., , relations, another term of donald trum? , ., i, trump? just to explain why behind me i have not trump? just to explain why behind me i have got mountains _ trump? just to explain why behind me i have got mountains and _ trump? just to explain why behind me i have got mountains and snow- trump? just to explain why behind me i have got mountains and snow and i i have got mountains and snow and trees and not the kremlin, because there is a big politics conference going on in sochi, and president putin is expected to give a keynote address and his reaction to the result of the us election. in the run—up to the selection, russian officials have gone out of their way to give the impression that it doesn't matter who wins as far as the kremlin is concerned, donald trump or kamala harris. nothing is going to change, they say, but when you look at what trump and harris have been saying on the campaign trail about russia and about ukraine, it is pretty clear that what donald trump has been saying strikes more of a chord with vladimir putin and the kremlin than what kamala harris has been saying. his criticism of the scale of us

military assistance to kyiv, his unwillingness to blame vladimir putin for the full—scale invasion of ukraine, and at times it seems he has been blaming joe biden and volodymyr zelensky more than vladimir putin for the invasion. his avoidance in the presidential debate when he was asked whether he wanted ukraine to win the war against enough information yet for wisconsin to be projt wini but at this point enough information yet for wisconsin russia, he got round the question, to be projt win thezat this point enough information yet for wisconsin to be projt win the war his point enough information yet for wisconsin to be projt win the war againstt ukraine to win the war against round the question, he skipped the question, and all of russia, he got round the question, he skipped the question, and all of that will have struck a chord with that will have struck a chord with the kremlin and as things stand at the kremlin and as things stand at the kremlin and as things stand at the moment, the kremlin will be the kremlin and as things stand at the moment, the kremlin will be pretty pleased about how things are pretty pleased about things are developing. pretty pleased about how things are pretty pleased about how things are developing. pretty pleased about how things are develoina. ,, .,, , ., develoina. ,, ., developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor— developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor in _ developing. steve rosenberg, our developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor— developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor in _ developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor in sochi, _ developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor in sochi, thank- developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor in sochi, thank you i developing. steve rosenberg, our. russia editor in sochi, thank you so much forjoining us. russia editor in sochi, _ developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor in sochi, thank- developing. steve rosenberg, our russia editor in sochi, thank you i developing. steve rosenberg, our. russia editor in sochi, thank you so much forjoining us. we have another one of those race we have another one of those race ratings. this is for wisconsin, that ratings. this is for wisconsin, that is leaning for trump. again, this is is leaning for trump. again, this is not a projection mother is not not a projection mother is not enough information yet for wisconsin enough information yet for wisconsin

to be projected but at this point to be projected but at this point in the race, cbs news projecting a, are making a race rating rather, as wisconsin leaning for trump. vicinity get the phone numbers will bring that to you. let's go to paris campaign headquarters here in washington where one of the campaign's biggest circuits lindy lee is standing by. we havejust been saying that cbs news has the race rating wisconsin leaning for trump. of course that's not a firm projection at this point we were talking about the fact that the trump campaign feels pretty confident at this point. how do you feel, how does the campaign feel? thank you so much for having me. i'm not going _ thank you so much for having me. i'm not going to _ thank you so much for having me. i'm not going to sugar—coat it, people are getting increasingly anxious, but there — are getting increasingly anxious, but there is still a pathway, just want _ but there is still a pathway, just want to— but there is still a pathway, just want to remind folks that as long as she wins wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania because she already won nebraska, _ pennsylvania because she already won nebraska, she could still win the

presidency. yes, it is looking increasingly unlikely but there is still a _ increasingly unlikely but there is still a path that i'm holding onto that but— still a path that i'm holding onto that but honestly this is not the night we — that but honestly this is not the night we wanted. i must have raised mittions— night we wanted. i must have raised millions of— night we wanted. i must have raised millions of dollars for the campaign and there _ millions of dollars for the campaign and there are a lot of donors here as well, _ and there are a lot of donors here as well, we — and there are a lot of donors here as well, we came in euphoric, with hi-h as well, we came in euphoric, with high expectations and once again the polls were _ high expectations and once again the polls were wrong, just like they were in— polls were wrong, just like they were in 2016 and 2020. ultimately the posters did not correct for

were in 2016 and 2020. ultimately the poster yes, not correct for were in 2016 and 2020. ultimately the poster yes, inflation ct for were in 2016 and 2020. ultimately the posteiyes, inflation is for were in 2016 and 2020. ultimately the poster yes, inflation is now down economy. yes, inflation is now down to 2~i% _ economy. yes, inflation is now down to 2~i% at _ economy. yes, inflation is now down to 2.1% at the price hikes still hurt and _ to 2.1% at the price hikes still hurt and it's caused immense suffering _ hurt and it's caused immense suffering. americans used to pay $100 _ suffering. americans used to pay $100 at— suffering. americans used to pay $100 at the grocery markets for 2019, notice $126. numbertwo $100 at the grocery markets for 2019, notice $126. number two would be immigration. people are upset that the _ be immigration. people are upset that the borders are relatively porous— that the borders are relatively porous during the first half of the biden— porous during the first half of the biden administration, executive orders — biden administration, executive orders should have come sooner. but to remind _ orders should have come sooner. but to remind folks, trump was the one who intentionally torpedoed the bipartisan budget deal. number three. _ bipartisan budget deal. number three, biden only gave her 107 days to futi— three, biden only gave her 107 days to full introduces, that was not sufficient time. she was still introducing herself to the american people _ introducing herself to the american people in october. there are a lot of factors— people in october. there are a lot of factors that contributed to this evolving outcome. we are not there yet evolving outcome. we are not there vet so _ evolving outcome. we are not there yet so i'm not saying it is over. let me —

yet so i'm not saying it is over. let me rephrase that about president biden, are you saying that you think if this doesn't work ever democrats, really that is partly his fault? == really that is partly his fault? -- work-out for— really that is partly his fault? —— work—out for democrats. it's hard for me to — work—out for democrats. it's hard for me to say because i know him on a personal— for me to say because i know him on a personal level and i have a tremendous amount of respect for him but i tremendous amount of respect for him but i don't _ tremendous amount of respect for him but i don't think he ever should have ran — but i don't think he ever should have ran for real action. he did have _ have ran for real action. he did have a — have ran for real action. he did have a tremendously successful administration but he should not have _ administration but he should not have run — administration but he should not have run. absolutely not, we should have run— have run. absolutely not, we should have run a _ have run. absolutely not, we should have run a primary, we should have had a _ have run a primary, we should have had a contested primary to see which candidate _ had a contested primary to see which candidate was strongest. given the stakes, _ candidate was strongest. given the stakes, and i still believe this is an existential election for our country. _ an existential election for our country, was born in an authoritarian regime so right now i have got— authoritarian regime so right now i have got a — authoritarian regime so right now i have got a tornado or feelings inside — have got a tornado or feelings inside me. the last thing i want is for america to evolve into another authoritarian regime. hopefully this isjust— authoritarian regime. hopefully this isjust overblown fears, authoritarian regime. hopefully this is just overblown fears, hopefully this witt— is just overblown fears, hopefully this will never come to pass. but this will never come to pass. but this is— this will never come to pass. but this is not the outcome we wanted. we witt— this is not the outcome we wanted. we will see what happens. she still

has a _ we will see what happens. she still has a path. — we will see what happens. she still has a path, i want to say that, as tong _ has a path, i want to say that, as tong as _ has a path, i want to say that, as tong as she — has a path, i want to say that, as long as she holds onto these blue wall states, it might happen. it's not over— wall states, it might happen. it's not over until it's over. indeed, cbs news is — not over until it's over. indeed, cbs news is saying that - not over until it's over. indeed, i cbs news is saying that wisconsin is leaning to donald trump of the moments of the may be one that is about to slip away from her, but if you are thinking thatjoe biden is perhaps one of the reasons, you also mentioned inflation, i mean, affordability, cost of living, that is one thing that voters have been saying for months now. so should the democrats have done a betterjob in communicating that message or taking better action on it? i communicating that message or taking better action on it?— better action on it? i think perhaps the second pandemic _ better action on it? i think perhaps the second pandemic check - better action on it? i think perhaps the second pandemic check neverl the second pandemic check never should have gone out, that over juiced the — should have gone out, that over juiced the economy. but this is very anti—incumbent environment, notjust anti—incumbent environment, not just anti—incumbent environment, notjust the united _ anti—incumbent environment, notjust the united states but we it in canada — the united states but we it in canada as well and japan and in europe, — canada as well and japan and in europe, is— canada as well and japan and in europe, is a global phenomenon. i think— europe, is a global phenomenon. i think americans don't quite understand that america emerged from

the pandemic more strongly and more resilient _ the pandemic more strongly and more resilient than any industrialised nation and earth. this was not a uniquely— nation and earth. this was not a uniquely american problem, inflation hit every single nation on earth but isiust verv— hit every single nation on earth but isjust very hard environment hit every single nation on earth but is just very hard environment to isjust very hard environment to run in. isjust very hard environment to run in trump had— isjust very hard environment to run in. trump had the fundamentalists on his side _ in. trump had the fundamentalists on his side and _ in. trump had the fundamentalists on his side and i— in. trump had the fundamentalists on his side and i think people are memorv— his side and i think people are memory holding the final year of his presidency— memory holding the final year of his presidency when we couldn't find toilet— presidency when we couldn't find toilet paper or bottled water. he didn't— toilet paper or bottled water. he didn't have to be as bad. but unfortunately people are kind of mvopic — unfortunately people are kind of myopic about that, they rate him according — myopic about that, they rate him according to the first three years and don't — according to the first three years and don't hold him accountable for the final one.— the final one. lindy lee, thank you for 'oinin: the final one. lindy lee, thank you forjoining us- _ the final one. lindy lee, thank you forjoining us. great _ the final one. lindy lee, thank you forjoining us. great as _ the final one. lindy lee, thank you forjoining us. great as always i the final one. lindy lee, thank you forjoining us. great as always to i forjoining us. great as always to speak with you. she was very emotional, it is an emotional moment, i mean, for both parties, people have invested so much in these campaigns, in door knocking, and it is so meaningful.

it's not over yet, absolutely far from it. i it's not over yet, absolutely far from it. ~ it's not over yet, absolutely far from it. ,, . ., , ., from it. i think elections have cotten from it. i think elections have gotten very — from it. i think elections have gotten very personal - from it. i think elections have gotten very personal for i gotten very personal for people, especially given the list of issues that are — especially given the list of issues that are on the agenda this cycle. and i— that are on the agenda this cycle. and i do have to disagree that when she said _ and i do have to disagree that when she said that the polls got it wrong _ she said that the polls got it wrong i— she said that the polls got it wrong. i don't think they did. in fact, the — wrong. i don't think they did. in fact, the polls said from over here now that _ fact, the polls said from over here now that this race be within the margin of— now that this race be within the margin of error on the seven swing states— margin of error on the seven swing states and — margin of error on the seven swing states and is what we are seeing. all of— states and is what we are seeing. all of these races, we are always going to — all of these races, we are always going to be within the margin of error and — going to be within the margin of error and we still haven't gotten to counting _ error and we still haven't gotten to counting of the votes yet, so you 'ust counting of the votes yet, so you just have — counting of the votes yet, so you just have to let the process work its way _ just have to let the process work its way through and before anyone declares victory or an outcome. that is really important _ declares victory or an outcome. that is really important to _ declares victory or an outcome. trisgt is really important to say at this point, none of the three blue wall states have actually been projected. so there is still that pathway to victory that kamala harris had looked at from the beginning. the

blue wall states plus the nebraska district, that are still open to her. it district, that are still open to her. . ., , , _ her. it certainly is by decision makers. butjust _ her. it certainly is by decision makers. butjust like - her. it certainly is by decision makers. butjust like georgia| makers. butjust like georgia and north— makers. butjust like georgia and north carolina, _ makers. butjust like georgia and north carolina, you _ makers. butjust like georgia and north carolina, you see the - makers. butjust like georgia and l north carolina, you see the trends. the trends — north carolina, you see the trends. the trends in — north carolina, you see the trends. the trends in the blue _ north carolina, you see the trends. the trends in the blue wall- north carolina, you see the trends. the trends in the blue wall states l the trends in the blue wall states now are _ the trends in the blue wall states now are leaning _ the trends in the blue wall statesl now are leaning towards president trump _ now are leaning towards president trump 0ur— now are leaning towards president trump. 0ur tast— now are leaning towards president trump. our last guest, speaking l now are leaning towards president i trump. our last guest, speaking from harris _ trump. our last guest, speaking from harris headquarters, _ trump. our last guest, speaking from harris headquarters, blaming - trump. our last guest, speaking from harris headquarters, blaming joe i harris headquarters, blaming joe biden— harris headquarters, blaming joe biden and — harris headquarters, blaming joe biden and talking _ harris headquarters, blaming joe biden and talking about, - harris headquarters, blaming joe i biden and talking about, you know, what this— biden and talking about, you know, what this election _ biden and talking about, you know, what this election has _ biden and talking about, you know, what this election has meant, - biden and talking about, you know, | what this election has meant, that's a good _ what this election has meant, that's a good indicator as _ what this election has meant, that's a good indicator as to _ what this election has meant, that's a good indicator as to why _ what this election has meant, that's a good indicator as to why you - a good indicator as to why you are going _ a good indicator as to why you are going to see — a good indicator as to why you are going to see president— a good indicator as to why you are going to see president trump i going to see president trump probably— going to see president trump probably declare _ going to see president trump probably declare victory. i going to see president trump probably declare victory. she was asked specifically _ probably declare victory. she was asked specifically about - probably declare victory. she was asked specifically about the i probably declare victory. she was asked specifically about the role l asked specifically about the role thatjoe biden played. but let's go to project —— is critical to caitriona with a major projection. we have been talking about swing states all night, we have been talking about georgia specifically recently and we are now in a position to project georgia as a win

for donald trump. this is huge, this is the second swing state now that has been projected as a win for donald trump. we mentioned north carolina earlier. this is georgia and it is 16 electoral votes. very, very intense contest fought in that state between kamala harris and donald trump, spending a lot of time there, both candidates, and we can see now it is projected as a win for donald trump stop let's see what impact that has on the race for 270. a major win for donald trump at this point. we have been saying 270 is the magic number to get to. donald trump is on 246, just 24 electoral votes away from the magic number of 270, down into the white house sitting at the oval office. kamala harris and 182. so five of those swing states left standing so the

result far from over but it is getting more difficult for kamala harris and easierfor getting more difficult for kamala harris and easier for donald trump. north carolina and georgia now on his tally. it is big news at this hour. we've been talking about how tight the race was, the polls have had it so tight for so long and we knew it would come very closely, where two states declared now, five are still to go. let's chat to our panel and see what they make of that. katty, two states for donald trump now out of the seven. tbs, big trump now out of the seven. a big win for him- _ trump now out of the seven. a big win for him. if— trump now out of the seven. a big win for him. if you _ trump now out of the seven. a big win for him. if you are in _ trump now out of the seven. a big win for him. if you are in the i trump now out of the seven. 3c win for him. if you are in the trunk campaign, he would rather be donald trump tonight than kamala harris at this stage of the evening. but him winning, if he was going to win any of these early battleground states, i guess from the harris point of view, losing north carolina and then losing georgia was betterfor them than losing pennsylvania, but that's not a huge amount of consolation. it

does mean that, as we've been saying, has to win pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. she has absolutely no wiggle room any more. those states are looking extremely close at this stage of the evening. and we should say, she has flipped it... we should say thatjoe biden won this four years ago and donald trump four years before that. so the one that they — trump four years before that. so the one that they have _ trump four years before that. so the one that they have taken _ trump four years before that. so the one that they have taken from the i one that they have taken from the democrats. one that they have taken from the democrats-— democrats. stephanie, what's your reaction? well, _ democrats. stephanie, what's your reaction? well, you _ democrats. stephanie, what's your reaction? well, you know, - democrats. stephanie, what's your reaction? well, you know, i - democrats. stephanie, what's your reaction? well, you know, i think. reaction? well, you know, i think it is a tough night. — reaction? well, you know, i think it is a tough night, but _ reaction? well, you know, i think it is a tough night, but we _ reaction? well, you know, i think it is a tough night, but we have i reaction? well, you know, i think it is a tough night, but we have just l is a tough night, but we have just had to— is a tough night, but we have just had to wait— is a tough night, but we have just had to wait until we count all the votes _ had to wait until we count all the votes and — had to wait until we count all the votes and see what happens with the blue watt _ votes and see what happens with the blue wall. there is still that path, that was— blue wall. there is still that path, that was always the path that the harris _ that was always the path that the harris campaign had lead into. i think— harris campaign had lead into. i think there is a letter that was put out there — think there is a letter that was put out there basically reminded all the supporters that we always knew this was going _ supporters that we always knew this was going to be a close race, we always— was going to be a close race, we always knew that the blue wall was our best _

always knew that the blue wall was our best path and here we are waiting — our best path and here we are waiting to see what those numbers took tike~ _ waiting to see what those numbers look like. ., , ., ,, look like. rodney, from your perspective for _ look like. rodney, from your perspective for the _ look like. rodney, from your i perspective for the republicans, this is a huge moment of the evening for donald trump and the republicans. we knew georgia was looking like it was going to go for him but this puts him in a really good position. it him but this puts him in a really good position-— good position. it certainly does. he needed georgia and _ good position. it certainly does. he| needed georgia and north carolina. as we _ needed georgia and north carolina. as we said — needed georgia and north carolina. as we said earlier, _ needed georgia and north carolina. as we said earlier, he _ needed georgia and north carolina. as we said earlier, he and - needed georgia and north carolina. as we said earlier, he and his- needed georgia and north carolina. as we said earlier, he and his team| as we said earlier, he and his team are very— as we said earlier, he and his team are very confident _ as we said earlier, he and his team are very confident that it _ as we said earlier, he and his team are very confident that it was - as we said earlier, he and his team are very confident that it was going j are very confident that it was going to work— are very confident that it was going to work out— are very confident that it was going to work out that _ are very confident that it was going to work out that way, _ are very confident that it was going to work out that way, but - are very confident that it was going to work out that way, but it's - to work out that way, but it's pretty — to work out that way, but it's pretty tetting _ to work out that way, but it's pretty telling that they - to work out that way, but it's pretty telling that they are i to work out that way, but it's i pretty telling that they are just as confident— pretty telling that they are just as confident that _ pretty telling that they are just as confident that some _ pretty telling that they are just as confident that some of these i pretty telling that they are just as i where the democrats wil% move the that s g where the democrats wil% move the that some ; 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what correspondent john sudworth. what was correspondentjohn sudworth. what was the reaction of the projection of georgia for donald trump? well, --eole in of georgia for donald trump? well, people in this room _ of georgia for donald trump? well, people in this room are convinced they have won this state, as you were _ they have won this state, as you were saying, there is a margin of 150,000 — were saying, there is a margin of 150,000 votes or so, just 5% of the total up account. they have been moving _ total up account. they have been moving very quickly as we said they would. _ moving very quickly as we said they would, they have slowed down for those _ would, they have slowed down for those last — would, they have slowed down for those last few votes, we are not sure why — those last few votes, we are not sure why fulton county by county, there _ sure why fulton county by county, there may be some different reasons, may the _ there may be some different reasons, may the ballots are being checked by people _ may the ballots are being checked by people here are convinced that georgia has gone for donald trump. if georgia has gone for donald trump. if they— georgia has gone for donald trump. if they are _ georgia has gone for donald trump. if they are right, of course, it is another— if they are right, of course, it is another key— if they are right, of course, it is another key milestone on his path to the white _ another key milestone on his path to the white house, planned as it always— the white house, planned as it always was through these key swing states _ always was through these key swing states. there is some cheering behind — states. there is some cheering behind me, that is the chairman of the republican party addressing the

crowd~ _ the republican party addressing the crowd. they really feel this night is going — crowd. they really feel this night is going their way.— is going their way. let's go to harris h0 _ is going their way. let's go to harris hq now. _ is going their way. let's go to harris hq now. to _ is going their way. let's go to harris hq now. to address i is going their way. let's go to | harris hq now. to address the nation. harris hq now. to address the nation- 50. — harris hq now. to address the nation. so, thank you, - harris hq now. to address the nation. so, thank you, we - harris hq now. to address the . nation. so, thank you, we believe harris hq now. to address the - nation. so, thank you, we believe in you, may god bless you, may god keep you, may god bless you, may god keep you, go harris! thank you all. some big news at howard university, the announcement that kamala harris will be there tomorrow to address supporters, and to address the nation, so she does not intend to go there tonight. that is in line with what we have heard from her campaign. we can see people immediately leaving. it is coated to one in the morning and if they are told that the vice president is not coming then there is no point remaining there. is coming then there is no point remaining there.— coming then there is no point remaining there. is going to see

some very _ remaining there. is going to see some very big — remaining there. is going to see some very big dumps _ remaining there. is going to see some very big dumps of- remaining there. is going to see some very big dumps of votes . remaining there. is going to see i some very big dumps of votes from the blue counties of pennsylvania, she can and wisconsin to shore up the blue wall, and if she doesn't get... the blue wall, and if she doesn't net. .. ., . the blue wall, and if she doesn't net... ., . , the blue wall, and if she doesn't ret," ., ., , , , get... you are seeing these big crowds of _ get... you are seeing these big crowds of people _ get... you are seeing these big crowds of people leaving - get... you are seeing these big crowds of people leaving harris headquarters. she is not going to be speaking, you understand why they are leaving but this is... this speaking, you understand why they are leaving but this is. . ._ are leaving but this is... this fact that she's — are leaving but this is... this fact that she's not _ are leaving but this is... this fact that she's not speaking _ are leaving but this is... this fact that she's not speaking tonight . are leaving but this is... this fact that she's not speaking tonight a | that she's not speaking tonight a symbol of the state of play tonight. it looks like donald trump may go to his headquarters in florida and say something — his headquarters in florida and say something but kamala harris is not going _ something but kamala harris is not going to _ something but kamala harris is not going to talk at all. they must have known _ going to talk at all. they must have known this— going to talk at all. they must have known this was a possibility because we knew— known this was a possibility because we knew there was a possibility we would _ we knew there was a possibility we would not — we knew there was a possibility we would not have a final result overnight tonight. i guess that they 'ust overnight tonight. i guess that they just hope _ overnight tonight. i guess that they just hope that there was better news for her— just hope that there was better news for her to— just hope that there was better news for her to talk about.— for her to talk about. there was a hue for her to talk about. there was a huge crowd _ for her to talk about. there was a huge crowd at _ for her to talk about. there was a huge crowd at howard _ for her to talk about. there was a huge crowd at howard university. for her to talk about. there was a l huge crowd at howard university. it is all lit up. they had the dj there, a lot of young people in the

crowd, but it is a university, a lot of students living nearby, and they are all heading home. we are not seen the singing and dancing we were seeing earlier. but being told that their candidate will not be there until tomorrow is a sign, in and of itself and we saw that e—mail from the campaign probably two hours ago saying that it is going to be tomorrow, stand tight, this is what we expected, we knew that it would be a loan spell... i we expected, we knew that it would be a loan spell. . ._ be a loan spell... i don't think this is what _ be a loan spell... i don't think this is what they _ be a loan spell... i don't think this is what they expected, i be a loan spell... i don't think. this is what they expected, they be a loan spell... i don't think- this is what they expected, they did not expect her to underperform in almost every demographic group apart from young women compared tojoe biden in 2020. is a from young women compared to joe biden in 2020-— from young women compared to joe biden in 2020. is a former candidate for ublic biden in 2020. is a former candidate for public office, _ biden in 2020. is a former candidate for public office, i _ biden in 2020. is a former candidate for public office, i can _ biden in 2020. is a former candidate for public office, i can tell— biden in 2020. is a former candidate for public office, i can tell you - for public office, i can tell you that— for public office, i can tell you that if— for public office, i can tell you that if you _ for public office, i can tell you that if you do not at least go in and addressed the crowd, that has assembled that your victory party, that is— assembled that your victory party, that is a _ assembled that your victory party, that is a tell—tale sign that you know— that is a tell—tale sign that you know something is up, that you are

not going _ know something is up, that you are not going to — know something is up, that you are not going to address them as the victor, _ not going to address them as the victor, vou — not going to address them as the victor, you will be offering a concession speech, and now that speech— concession speech, and now that speech is— concession speech, and now that speech is going to be tomorrow. and look how speech is going to be tomorrow. fific look how quickly that space has emptied out. we can see that stage there, at howard university, not so farfrom there, at howard university, not so far from where we are, this is a massive ground is that they had set “p massive ground is that they had set up her campaign, and all of her supporters there, spilling out really fast, many of them students, here, it is a university, but remarkable to see those images. stephanie, what are you feeling about all of this now? s, stephanie, what are you feeling about all of this now?— stephanie, what are you feeling about all of this now? a couple of the races that _ about all of this now? a couple of the races that bradley _ about all of this now? a couple of the races that bradley mentioned | about all of this now? a couple of l the races that bradley mentioned in pennsylvania, every cycle, you wait days and days the count his votes, they always take some time, and, really, we are waiting to count all

of the votes, everybody that got a chance to live out their vote deserves an opportunity to be counted. �* .,. deserves an opportunity to be counted. �* ., , �*, ., counted. but the fact that she's not cominu counted. but the fact that she's not coming until— counted. but the fact that she's not coming until tomorrow _ counted. but the fact that she's not coming until tomorrow and - counted. but the fact that she's not| coming until tomorrow and everyone is leaving, what does that to you, now? , ., ., , now? there is not a message necessarily — now? there is not a message necessarily at _ now? there is not a message necessarily at this _ now? there is not a message necessarily at this moment . now? there is not a message - necessarily at this moment because they are still waiting for the counsellor coming. but i think that the house, the senate, has slipped out of democratic hands, there are still potential for the house and potential for a still potential for the house and potentialfor a pathway still potential for the house and potential for a pathway through the blue wall. we always knew this, that it takes some time to count ballots, and as a centre when marty was saying, they do not like to use the word, the damp, but... laughter

—— katty was saying. it is not the night that i think a lot of people had thought but it is not over until every last vote is counted. just to give you a quick idea of what we are seeing on our screens, on the left, the harris campaign headquarters and the harris campaign headquarters and the trump—vance headquarters in the middle of your screen, that is where we expect to see jd vance middle of your screen, that is where we expect to seejd vance and donald trump at some point soon. gary o'donoghue has been there all night, describing the scene for us. if you can hear us, gary, tell us what is happening. we see a lot of movement, and the expectation that donald trump and jd vance wilshere. i can trump and jd vance wilshere. i can tell ou trump and jd vance wilshere. i can tell you that — trump and jd vance wilshere. i can tell you that a _ trump and jd vance wilshere. i can tell you that a motorcade _ trump and jd vance wilshere. i can tell you that a motorcade has arrived, they are prepping the stage, the teleprompter is have gone up. all of that means one thing very

shortly, and i would not be surprised whatsoever if we get some kind of declaration of victory in the coming minutes, particularly now that kamala harris has decided to leave her party. obviously, there are still doubts being counted in the blue wall states, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, all of that is still true, but the level of will get, i suspect, donald trump on stage very shori the level of confidence here is through the roof is still true, but the level of confidence here is through the roof quite rightly at the moment. they reboot —— believe they have done it quite rightly at the moment. they reboot —— believe they have done it and they are ahead in those states and they are ahead in those in terms of accounting as things reboot —— believe they have done it ar terms are ahead in those reboot —— believe they have done it ar terms of a ahead in those reboot —— believe they have done it ar terms of accounting hose reboot —— believe they have done it ar terms of accounting as se reboot —— believe they have done it stand now and it is a different ar terms of accounting as things in terms of accounting as things stand now and it is a different dynamic from 2020. there would be there would be few would bet against them at this dynamic from 2020. there would be few would bet against them at this stage. we will see what happens if stage. we will see what happens if he comes, as i suspect he will, in he comes, as i suspect he will, in the next few minutes, the town that the next few minutes, the town that he strikes, what he actually claims, he strikes, what he actually claims, anything you might say about the anything you might say about the next few days and the camp that is next few days and the camp that is still going all in, but we are still going all in, but we are getting some movement here, and we getting some movement here, and we will get, i suspect, will get, i suspect,

getting some movement here, and we will get, isuspect, donald getting some movement here, and we getting some movement here, and we will get, isuspect, donald getting some movement here, and we will get, i suspect, donald trump on stage very shortly. will get, i suspect, donald trump on stage very shortly. taste will get, i suspect, donald trump on stage very shortly-— stage very shortly. we will go back to ga if stage very shortly. we will go back to gary if there _ stage very shortly. we will go back to gary if there is _ stage very shortly. we will go back to gary if there is any _ stage very shortly. we will go back to gary if there is any movement. l to gary if there is any movement. sarah smith is at that very empty howard university, now, the kamala harris hq, howard university, now, the kamala harris ho, quite different scenes there from when we last spoke to you. there from when we last spoke to ou. , , there from when we last spoke to ou, �* , ., there from when we last spoke to ou. , __ there from when we last spoke to ou. , you. just about everybody has left, and they left _ you. just about everybody has left, and they left very _ you. just about everybody has left, and they left very quickly, - you. just about everybody has left, and they left very quickly, after - and they left very quickly, after the campaign chair cedric richman came up to the campaign stays

the campaign chair cedric richman came up 1 rather ampaign stays the campaign chair cedric richman came up 1 rather ampaign stl because dejected, rather depressed, because they did not think that when all of they did not think that when all of the last votes had been counted and states cold that she would be declared the winner. they have not conceded defeat, but they all but have in the way that they have closed this event tonight. taste closed this event tonight. we still have states _ closed this event tonight. we still have states that _ closed this event tonight. we still have states that have _ closed this event tonight. we still have states that have not - closed this event tonight. we still have states that have not been i have states that have not been projected yet so we don't have any result but kamala harris will not be speaking tonight whereas we are expecting a speech, down at the trump headquarters. what do you make of all of this? my trump headquarters. what do you make of all of this?— of all of this? my apple about to lose battery _ of all of this? my apple about to lose battery because _ of all of this? my apple about to lose battery because it - of all of this? my apple about to lose battery because it has - of all of this? my apple about to lose battery because it has been almost _ lose battery because it has been almost 24—hour is. —— my apple watch is about _ almost 24—hour is. —— my apple watch is about let's — almost 24—hour is. —— my apple watch is about. let's look at reality. anyone — is about. let's look at reality. anyone at _ is about. let's look at reality. anyone at the harris campaign thought— anyone at the harris campaign thought they had a shot through win the blue _ thought they had a shot through win the blue wall, they would have had

the biggest line dance in the guinness book of world records. they left. guinness book of world records. they left they _ guinness book of world records. they left. they knew what the outcome of this race _ left. they knew what the outcome of this race is _ left. they knew what the outcome of this race is going to be. they are seeing _ this race is going to be. they are seeing the — this race is going to be. they are seeing the projections, the vote totals _ seeing the projections, the vote totals that still need to come in. when _ totals that still need to come in. when donald trump comes up to the stage _ when donald trump comes up to the stage and _ when donald trump comes up to the stage and declares victory, we, as america. — stage and declares victory, we, as america, have to sit back and realise — america, have to sit back and realise that he won, and the democrats need to take a step back and look _ democrats need to take a step back and look. harrison county north carolina. — and look. harrison county north carolina. a — and look. harrison county north carolina, a 40% black county, donald trump _ carolina, a 40% black county, donald trump won _ carolina, a 40% black county, donald trump won eight. so, when the democrats _ trump won eight. so, when the democrats called donald trump and republicans are racist, have a little — republicans are racist, have a little self— republicans are racist, have a little self reflection and understand that there are a lot more issues _ understand that there are a lot more issues that— understand that there are a lot more issues that are important to americans all throughout this country. _ americans all throughout this country, that have given him what may be _ country, that have given him what may be a — country, that have given him what may be a landslide victory. just

cuickl , may be a landslide victory. just quickly. katty. _ may be a landslide victory. just quickly, katty, for— may be a landslide victory. inst quickly, katty, for our viewers, that very different split screen, the howard university kamala harris hat campaign headquarters, and the trump—vance ticket at the west palm beach convention centre, full with all of the maga hats, donald trump orjd vance expected to show up and speak, and at the very bottom of your screen that is the counter, kamala harris 182, donald trump 246, you have to get to 272 wins, so... sorry to interrupt.— sorry to interrupt. one of the real elements we _ sorry to interrupt. one of the real elements we are _ sorry to interrupt. one of the real elements we are seeing _ sorry to interrupt. one of the real elements we are seeing is - sorry to interrupt. one of the real elements we are seeing is around i elements we are seeing is around race, _ elements we are seeing is around race, the — elements we are seeing is around race, the democrats thought that they would endlessly win the white house _ they would endlessly win the white house because hispanic voters and black— house because hispanic voters and black voters had voted, it looked like, _ black voters had voted, it looked like, overwhelmingly effectively for democrats, it is less than it was,

and in _ democrats, it is less than it was, and in a — democrats, it is less than it was, and in a tight race, less that it was _ and in a tight race, less that it was can— and in a tight race, less that it was can make the difference, but it looks _ was can make the difference, but it looks like _ was can make the difference, but it looks like donald trump on the latest — looks like donald trump on the latest numbers would have one about 15% of— latest numbers would have one about 15% of the _ latest numbers would have one about 15% of the black vote in america, the democrats are still winning a lot more. — the democrats are still winning a lot more, but, they need to slim those _ lot more, but, they need to slim those margins back down again if they are — those margins back down again if they are going to carry on winning in certain— they are going to carry on winning in certain places.— in certain places. there is recent exit oll in certain places. there is recent exit poll data — in certain places. there is recent exit poll data that _ in certain places. there is recent exit poll data that shows - in certain places. there is recent exit poll data that shows that . in certain places. there is recent exit poll data that shows that let you know — exit poll data that shows that let you know men. _ exit poll data that shows that let you know men, and _ exit poll data that shows that let you know men, and this- exit poll data that shows that let you know men, and this is- exit poll data that shows that let you know men, and this is the l exit poll data that shows that let. you know men, and this is the area where _ you know men, and this is the area where democrats _ you know men, and this is the area where democrats have _ you know men, and this is the area where democrats have lost- you know men, and this is the area where democrats have lost the - you know men, and this is the area i where democrats have lost the most run, where democrats have lost the most run. in _ where democrats have lost the most run. in2020, — where democrats have lost the most run. in2020, it— where democrats have lost the most run, in 2020, it was— where democrats have lost the most run, in 2020, it was 59—36, - where democrats have lost the most run, in 2020, it was 59—36, in- where democrats have lost the mostj run, in 2020, it was 59—36, in 2024, it looks _ run, in 2020, it was 59—36, in 2024, it looks like — run, in 2020, it was 59—36, in 2024, it looks like being _ run, in 2020, it was 59—36, in 2024, it looks like being 45—53, _ run, in 2020, it was 59—36, in 2024, it looks like being 45—53, that - run, in 2020, it was 59—36, in 2024, it looks like being 45—53, that is a i it looks like being 45—53, that is a huge _ it looks like being 45—53, that is a huge shift, — it looks like being 45—53, that is a huge shift, going _ it looks like being 45—53, that is a huge shift, going from _ it looks like being 45—53, that is a huge shift, going from a - it looks like being 45—53, that is a. huge shift, going from a depressed 23 to r+8 — huge shift, going from a depressed 23 to r+8 and _ huge shift, going from a depressed 23 to r+8 and going _ huge shift, going from a depressed 23 to r+8 and going into _ huge shift, going from a depressed 23 to r+8 and going into the - huge shift, going from a depressed i 23 to r+8 and going into the sunbelt states— 23 to r+8 and going into the sunbelt states that _ 23 to r+8 and going into the sunbelt states that will— 23 to r+8 and going into the sunbelt states that will have _ 23 to r+8 and going into the sunbelt states that will have a _ 23 to r+8 and going into the sunbelt states that will have a significant - states that will have a significant impact _ states that will have a significant impact on — states that will have a significant impact on the _ states that will have a significant impact on the outcome - states that will have a significant impact on the outcome of - states that will have a significant impact on the outcome of this i states that will have a significant i impact on the outcome of this race.

do you _ impact on the outcome of this race. do you have — impact on the outcome of this race. do you have a — impact on the outcome of this race. do you have a view _ impact on the outcome of this race. do you have a view no, _ impact on the outcome of this race. do you have a view no, stephanie? | do you have a view no, stephanie? the issue is the economy... the economy _ the issue is the economy... the economy overtakes _ the issue is the economy... the economy overtakes everything else that we _ economy overtakes everything else that we have — economy overtakes everything else that we have talked _ economy overtakes everything else that we have talked about, - economy overtakes everything else that we have talked about, race, i that we have talked about, race, education. — that we have talked about, race, education, everything _ that we have talked about, race, education, everything is - that we have talked about, race, education, everything is about. that we have talked about, race, i education, everything is about the economy? — education, everything is about the econom ? , ., education, everything is about the econom ? , . ., ., economy? there is a fundamental misunderstanding _ economy? there is a fundamental misunderstanding from _ economy? there is a fundamental misunderstanding from the - economy? there is a fundamental i misunderstanding from the democrat party regarding hispanic voters, they tend — party regarding hispanic voters, they tend to want to talk to them about— they tend to want to talk to them about immigration but if you are a hispanic— about immigration but if you are a hispanic voter voting in america, you have — hispanic voter voting in america, you have legal status, that means you're _ you have legal status, that means you're here — you have legal status, that means you're here and able to vote so the issues _ you're here and able to vote so the issues of— you're here and able to vote so the issues of immigration do not stick the way— issues of immigration do not stick the way that democrats expect. people — the way that democrats expect. people who came here legally and can vote want _ people who came here legally and can vote want to see other people come here legally and the other pieces on the economy, when you are a couple of generations even united states, you care _ of generations even united states, you care about the things other americans care about, education, a safe and _

americans care about, education, a safe and secure community to raise your family— safe and secure community to raise yourfamily in and safe and secure community to raise your family in and sometimes the democrats — your family in and sometimes the democrats have a hard time understanding what motivates hispanic voters.— understanding what motivates hispanic voters. border, border, border. hispanic voters. border, border, lzoorder- many — hispanic voters. border, border, border. many let _ hispanic voters. border, border, border. many let you _ hispanic voters. border, border, border. many let you know- hispanic voters. border, border, | border. many let you know voters hispanic voters. border, border, i border. many let you know voters are practising _ border. many let you know voters are practising catholics _ border. many let you know voters are practising catholics and _ border. many let you know voters are practising catholics and this _ practising catholics and this constant _ practising catholics and this constant messaging - practising catholics and this constant messaging on- practising catholics and this i constant messaging on abortion practising catholics and this - constant messaging on abortion has turned _ constant messaging on abortion has turned some — constant messaging on abortion has turned some of— constant messaging on abortion has turned some of them _ constant messaging on abortion has turned some of them off— constant messaging on abortion has turned some of them off also. - constant messaging on abortion has turned some of them off also. iante. turned some of them off also. we will ick turned some of them off also. will pick that up a bit more, but turned some of them off also.“ will pick that up a bit more, but go back to gary o'donoghue at the republican party headquarters, we are waiting to seejd vance and donald trump. are waiting to see jd vance and donald trump.— are waiting to see jd vance and donald trump. yes, we are, it will be interesting _ donald trump. yes, we are, it will be interesting to _ donald trump. yes, we are, it will be interesting to see _ donald trump. yes, we are, it will be interesting to see the - donald trump. yes, we are, it will be interesting to see the nature i donald trump. yes, we are, it will be interesting to see the nature of the speeches that they give, and what exactly they will claim and say about the votes still to be counted. look, i think it is worth thinking about, if this is going the way we think it is going, if we think it is

going donald trump's way, we have to think about the scale of what at achievement would amount to, a man who is 78 years old, age was supposed to be a day factor for presidents, the publicjust will not interested in old people becoming president. he faced four criminal cases. one of them he had been convicted in and is due to be sentenced in three weeks. a bunch of civil cases. he had insulted a string of demographics across this country. he had countless candles throughout the last four years, four years, eight years, and if this is going the way we think it is going, getting back into the white house for a second nonconsecutive terms, only done once before, is an extraordinary and absolutely mind blowing achievement in political terms. so, if it goes that way, and i stress if it goes that way, using

this word, historic, but this really would be one of those moments in the history of this country that you simply would never have envisaged. indeed, gary, as we continue to look at those pictures. do we have any indication when donald trump is arriving? figs indication when donald trump is arrivin: ? �* , , indication when donald trump is arrivinu? a , ~ arriving? as they say, we think somebody _ arriving? as they say, we think somebody is — arriving? as they say, we think somebody is in _ arriving? as they say, we think somebody is in the _ arriving? as they say, we think somebody is in the building, i arriving? as they say, we think somebody is in the building, a| arriving? as they say, we think- somebody is in the building, a large motorcade arrived, the teleprompter is our upcoming once he never uses, the podium is there, the crowd is anticipating something very soon. they have been playing videos, they have the tv on at the moment. he does not mind keeping a crowd waiting. he does that regularly, for hours on end, so he will come out when he is ready if it is him. what is the campaign — when he is ready if it is him. what is the campaign saying _ when he is ready if it is him. what is the campaign saying about how they are feeling? they must be looking at these numbers in the blue wall states, as well. i

looking at these numbers in the blue wall states, as well.— wall states, as well. i think that is riuht. wall states, as well. i think that is right- not _ wall states, as well. i think that is right. notjust _ wall states, as well. i think that is right. notjust the _ wall states, as well. i think that is right. notjust the campaign, | wall states, as well. i think that i is right. notjust the campaign, but we heard that the house speaker mike johnson got on a plane and is on his way here, from his own camp. because he thinks this is the way things republicans are flocking in this direction, the ones that are not already here, so people sent a potential victory, success, and they want to be part of it, and they already have a projected gain in the senate which is, for them, would be a significant step forward. thank you. we will continue watching those pictures. you are watching bbc news and the bbc breakfast election special. these are live pictures you

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