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the us is the best arms supplier to ukraine as they fight the russian invasion. we can go to our correspondence james waterhouse in kyiv. we have seen the congratulations from president zelensky. how are people in kyiv feeling about donald trump's victory this morning because we have seen mixed messaging from donald trump on the war in ukraine and support for ukraine. ukraine and support for ukraine-— ukraine and support for ukraine. . ~ ukraine. yeah, i think when we look at what — ukraine. yeah, i think when we look at what mps _ ukraine. yeah, i think when we look at what mps are _ ukraine. yeah, i think when we look at what mps are saying, . ukraine. yeah, i think when we look at what mps are saying, i | look at what mps are saying, i think— look at what mps are saying, i think ukraine and certainly kyiv— think ukraine and certainly kyiv is_ think ukraine and certainly kyiv is trying to embrace the object — kyiv is trying to embrace the object ability. there are calls to not — object ability. there are calls to not predict what donald trump _ to not predict what donald trump will do next. you are right, — trump will do next. you are right, he _ trump will do next. you are right, he has in the past suggested he could solve this
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more — suggested he could solve this more quickly by bringing a deal in as_ more quickly by bringing a deal in as little as 24 hours. i think_ in as little as 24 hours. i think there was one soldier we spoke — think there was one soldier we spoke to— think there was one soldier we spoke to who is on the south—eastern front line who highlighted the juncture ukraine is out. the first scenario_ ukraine is out. the first scenario is donald trump forces ukraine — scenario is donald trump forces ukraine to — scenario is donald trump forces ukraine to negotiate by withdrawing support and says to vladimir— withdrawing support and says to vladimir putin of russia, here is a deai— vladimir putin of russia, here is a deal that we can bring this— is a deal that we can bring this war_ is a deal that we can bring this war to an end with. and in the words _ this war to an end with. and in the words of this soldier rush are simply advances in years to come _ are simply advances in years to come and — are simply advances in years to come and potentially destroys ukraine — come and potentially destroys ukraine as a country then. there _ ukraine as a country then. there is— ukraine as a country then. there is a _ ukraine as a country then. there is a second scenario. he said _ there is a second scenario. he said vladimir putin could reject— said vladimir putin could reject such a proposal which could — reject such a proposal which could perhaps convince donald trump — could perhaps convince donald trunrp to— could perhaps convince donald trump to take more radical measures such as upping support for ukraine, and for ukraine that— for ukraine, and for ukraine that would be far more preferable. there is a minority view— preferable. there is a minority view hear— preferable. there is a minority view hear of people who live so close _ view hear of people who live so close to — view hear of people who live so close to the fighting and see death— close to the fighting and see death and destruction on a daily— death and destruction on a daily basis that donald trump might— daily basis that donald trump might have been the best candidate to bring this war to an end —
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candidate to bring this war to an end and bring respite in some _ an end and bring respite in some way but i think we are seeing — some way but i think we are seeing president zelensky, donald _ seeing president zelensky, donald trump called him the best— donald trump called him the best salesman on the planet. i think— best salesman on the planet. i think he — best salesman on the planet. i think he is— best salesman on the planet. i think he is making his pitch this— think he is making his pitch this morning. he is saying to the future _ this morning. he is saying to the future us president, look, there — the future us president, look, there are _ the future us president, look, there are economic and political opportunities in ukraine. we are one of the strongest military forces in europe _ strongest military forces in europe he says, because of how hattie _ europe he says, because of how battle hardened his military has become. he is looking to try to — has become. he is looking to try to sell— has become. he is looking to try to sell his country as a horse _ try to sell his country as a horse worth backing. but inside ukraine — horse worth backing. but inside ukraine this is still existential, this is still a fight _ existential, this is still a fight for survival. it's an illustration of how geopolitics matters. a lot of people were nervously— matters. a lot of people were nervously looking at the polls overnight as to what the outcome could be because ukraine's very future hinges. on this— ukraine's very future hinges. on this result. we ukraine's very future hinges. on this result.— on this result. we have to interrunt _ on this result. we have to interrupt you _ on this result. we have to interrupt you because - on this result. we have to interrupt you because we | on this result. we have to - interrupt you because we have big news coming in here in washington. we
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big news coming in here in washington.— big news coming in here in washinuton. ~ ., , , washington. we do, the biggest news of all- _ washington. we do, the biggest news of all. at _ washington. we do, the biggest news of all. at this _ washington. we do, the biggest news of all. at this point - washington. we do, the biggest news of all. at this point we - news of all. at this point we can project donald trump will be the 47th president of the united states, winning what had been expected to be a razor tight and historic race, and it has beenjust tight and historic race, and it has been just that. tight and historic race, and it has beenjust that. that prediction coming to us from our cbs news partners. donald trump, america's 47th president. he claimed victory a couple of hours ago but now it is official with the projected win for donald trump. we have been waiting on folks coming to us from wisconsin, we have them now and it has put him over the top. america's 47th president, donald trump, and also america's 45th president. just four years ago he came up short, losing tojoe biden after the country waited days for the result. not the case this time. it has beenjust hours and donald trump is heading back to the white house
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as america's 47th president. with this donald trump becomes only the second president in us history to serve two consecutive terms in office. the 78—year—old will also be the oldest person to assume the presidency when he is sworn into office injanuary. the president—elect, as he is now, late immigration and economy the top priorities for his campaign. as we have seen, there are issues that have resonated with the american people with this projected result that donald trump will be america's 47th president. it has been quite the campaign and quite the yearfor has been quite the campaign and quite the year for donald trump. he survived an assassination attempt earlier this year injuly when a gunman shot him in the ear at a rally in butler pennsylvania. that was days before he formally accepted his party's nomination. a few months later
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the secret service foiled another alleged assassination plot at one of his golf courses in florida. but what we are talking about tonight, donald trump becoming america's 47th president, that prediction coming to us from our cbs news partners. as donald trump takes office again he continues to face dozens of criminal charges including four election interference. he has denied all those charges against him. with this projected win, as donald trump becomes the 47th president, his running mate, the senatorfrom ohio, jd the senator from ohio, jd vance, the senatorfrom ohio, jd vance, will become the youngest vice president in more than 70 years. jd vancejust vice president in more than 70 years. jd vance just turned 40 in august. he will be one of the youngest vice president this country has seen. that election prediction result coming to us. a race that has been so tight, all the polling had this neck and neck but the margin of error we have been
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reporting on, between 2% and 4% at times. it has turned out it has been quite a victory for donald trump. very significant margins that he has managed in those swing states that he and kamala harris have been fighting for over all these months. the change at the top of the democratic ticket, she took over their 107 days ago. donald trump declared his candidacy and intention to seek another term of office in the white house two years ago. he has made it his business to get to the oval office, to get to sit behind that resolute desk once more. he will do that in january, the 20th of january, the inauguration will take place and donald trump will become america's 47th president. we have been watching the swing states all night. georgia and north carolina projected for him. pennsylvania rejected for him. he was awaiting just four votes
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and the state that gave those electoral college votes to him that took him over the top, of wisconsin. we can go there now to our correspondent carl nasman in wisconsin for us. the early hours of wednesday morning here in the united states. tell us, what has happened in the last few minutes to get wisconsin to project this victory that has resulted in this production, donald trump, america's 47th president?— president? that's right, in the end it was _ president? that's right, in the end it was the _ president? that's right, in the end it was the exact _ president? that's right, in the end it was the exact same - president? that's right, in the i end it was the exact same state that gave — end it was the exact same state that gave him victory in 2016, now— that gave him victory in 2016, now pushing him over the edge in 2024 — now pushing him over the edge in 2024. those ten electoral college _ in 2024. those ten electoral college votes in wisconsin, plenty _ college votes in wisconsin, plenty enough to put donald trump — plenty enough to put donald trump now officially back into the white house for the second time _ the white house for the second time. interesting to see that it was— time. interesting to see that it was the vote counts in the city — it was the vote counts in the city of — it was the vote counts in the city of milwaukee that were able — city of milwaukee that were able to— city of milwaukee that were able to put him over the line, that's— able to put him over the line, that's where the republican national convention was held
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earlier— national convention was held earlier this year, the very first— earlier this year, the very first primary of the season aiso — first primary of the season also in _ first primary of the season also in milwaukee, so some interesting relationships here with the — interesting relationships here with the state of wisconsin and its biggest city, milwaukee. as i its biggest city, milwaukee. as i was _ its biggest city, milwaukee. as i was hearing from a republican officiat— i was hearing from a republican official earlier, he told me, as goes— official earlier, he told me, as goes wisconsin, so goes the nation — as goes wisconsin, so goes the nation. that is how we are seeing _ nation. that is how we are seeing this election play out in the — seeing this election play out in the very early hours here in the capital— in the very early hours here in the capital of madison. it is quiet — the capital of madison. it is quiet here on the streets. this city went— quiet here on the streets. this city went heavily democratic but in — city went heavily democratic but in the end the big margins of victory— but in the end the big margins of victory for kamala harris in places— of victory for kamala harris in places like madison and milwaukee were simply not enough. we saw a landslide of support— enough. we saw a landslide of support in rural areas of this state. — support in rural areas of this state. and _ support in rural areas of this state, and not enough of a margin— state, and not enough of a margin for kamala harris trying to make — margin for kamala harris trying to make up ground in suburban areas— to make up ground in suburban areas in— to make up ground in suburban areas in orderto to make up ground in suburban areas in order to put kamala harris — areas in order to put kamala harris in _ areas in order to put kamala harris in the lead here. again we see — harris in the lead here. again we see this blue wall slipping away— we see this blue wall slipping away from the democrats, another _ away from the democrats, another brick turning here,
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after— another brick turning here, after pennsylvania, that crucial _ after pennsylvania, that crucial swing state that went to donald trump's column. now wisconsin, _ to donald trump's column. now wisconsin, and very likely we will see — wisconsin, and very likely we will see michigan as well, the three — will see michigan as well, the three swing states in the great lakes— three swing states in the great lakes region, often all going the same direction. it looks like — the same direction. it looks like in — the same direction. it looks like in 2024 they will all go republican, to donald trump. we have _ republican, to donald trump. we have been— republican, to donald trump. we have been travelling the state all week, speaking with photos. there _ all week, speaking with photos. there were clues here, as soon as you — there were clues here, as soon as you leave the large cities, you see _ as you leave the large cities, you see the support, the yard signs — you see the support, the yard signs. voters tell you they support— signs. voters tell you they support donald trump, they out campaigning, and there was a sense— campaigning, and there was a sense may be the ground game would _ sense may be the ground game would get kamala harris over the edge in wisconsin, may be suburban — the edge in wisconsin, may be suburban women and the issue of abortion— suburban women and the issue of abortion would do it, maybe the latino _ abortion would do it, maybe the latino vote flip—flopping at the end _ latino vote flip—flopping at the end of the election of the comments we saw at madison square — comments we saw at madison square garden. at the end none of that— square garden. at the end none of that was quite enough. we saw donald trump broadening his pace, _ saw donald trump broadening his pace, pitching a biggertent saw donald trump broadening his pace, pitching a bigger tent in this state, attracting more
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latino _ this state, attracting more latino voters, african—american voters. — latino voters, african—american voters. and _ latino voters, african—american voters, and in the end it was a margin— voters, and in the end it was a margina— voters, and in the end it was a margina hit— voters, and in the end it was a margin a bit bigger than what joe biden won in this state, about— joe biden won in this state, about double, 40,000 votes also putting _ about double, 40,000 votes also putting donald trump over the edge — putting donald trump over the edge a — putting donald trump over the edge. a comfortable victory. we have _ edge. a comfortable victory. we have been— edge. a comfortable victory. we have been anticipating for some time _ have been anticipating for some time but — have been anticipating for some time but it is now official after— time but it is now official after we _ time but it is now official after we get the results from the city — after we get the results from the city of milwaukee. you mentioned the historic nature of this, — mentioned the historic nature of this, donald trump becoming the oldest president elect in the oldest president elect in the country's history, one of the country's history, one of the first— the country's history, one of the first since the 1800s to be sent— the first since the 1800s to be sent to — the first since the 1800s to be sent to office in two nonconsecutive terms. republicans in this state and across— republicans in this state and across the nation can officially celebrate that victory, taking the state of wisconsin and now taking the white — wisconsin and now taking the white house. we wisconsin and now taking the white house.— white house. we can see the tall at white house. we can see the tally at the — white house. we can see the tally at the bottom _ white house. we can see the tally at the bottom of - white house. we can see the tally at the bottom of your i tally at the bottom of your screen, donald trump with 279 electoral college votes. 219 for kamala harris. this will not be the final tally for donald trump, many states are still counting, including the
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swing states like michigan, nevada and arizona. we can tell you donald trump has taken four swing states. this karting where we were just reporting from. pennsylvania, north carolina and georgia, all of those have gone to his tally, building on the leaning republican states he had taken earlier in the night to take him over the magic 270 we have been talking about four hours, and on into the white house. it is remarkable, we were talking about what her close race this was up until today. we could see donald trump win every single swing state. christian fraser is at the wall and can tell us how we got here. there were three _ tell us how we got here. there were three scenarios - tell us how we got here. there were three scenarios tonight i were three scenarios tonight will were three scenarios tonight wiii stop— were three scenarios tonight will stop at the beginning of the night we thought it might be tight, our heads said it was tight— be tight, our heads said it was tight because the polling had it tight — tight because the polling had it tight in all the seven battleground states, within the margin — battleground states, within the margin of error. we also knew that _ margin of error. we also knew that if— margin of error. we also knew that if the _ margin of error. we also knew that if the polling was wrong three — that if the polling was wrong three points one way or the other— three points one way or the other it _ three points one way or the other it could be a blow out tonight— other it could be a blow out tonight like we saw in 2016 and
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2020 — tonight like we saw in 2016 and 2020. that's what happened on the night — 2020. that's what happened on the night. first went to north carolina. _ the night. first went to north carolina, a hold for donald trumo _ carolina, a hold for donald trump. not curtains for kamala harris _ trump. not curtains for kamala harris at — trump. not curtains for kamala harris at that point, but then georgia — harris at that point, but then georgia flipped back into the red column. then went pennsylvania leaving donald trump — pennsylvania leaving donald trump on 266. then the old cruciai— trump on 266. then the old crucial result we have just got in wisconsin, the ten electoral coiiege — in wisconsin, the ten electoral college votes lifting him over the top, _ college votes lifting him over the top, 270 to win. he now has 276 _ the top, 270 to win. he now has 276 we — the top, 270 to win. he now has 276 we can— the top, 270 to win. he now has 276. we can look at the other states— 276. we can look at the other states and you can see we are approaching the end in some of these _ approaching the end in some of these states. looking at nevada with six — these states. looking at nevada with six electoral college votes _ with six electoral college votes will stop it is red across _ votes will stop it is red across the map, that's the thing _ across the map, that's the thing that strikes you about all the _ thing that strikes you about all the situations in all these states— all the situations in all these states at— all the situations in all these states at the moment. nevada will he — states at the moment. nevada will he a — states at the moment. nevada will be a big disappointment to democrats tonight where they have _ democrats tonight where they have six — democrats tonight where they have six electoral college votes _
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have six electoral college votes. joe biden took arizona by votes. joe biden took arizona hviust— votes. joe biden took arizona byjust 10,000 votes. joe biden took arizona byjust10,000 votes. michigan by just 10,000 votes. michigan is the _ byjust10,000 votes. michigan is the one — byjust10,000 votes. michigan is the one we are looking at, we are — is the one we are looking at, we are getting close to the end and it's— we are getting close to the end and it's quite a healthy lead for trump at the moment. we were — for trump at the moment. we were looking at the map earlier this evening, and we were asking _ this evening, and we were asking the question of whether the three states would hang together. they have been hanging together in every presidential cycle since 1992. it presidential cycle since 1992. it looks— presidential cycle since 1992. it looks like they might just do it— it looks like they might just do it again. michigan is the outstanding one but at the moment it is tilting towards donald _ moment it is tilting towards donald trump.— moment it is tilting towards donald trum -. , ., ., , donald trump. christian fraser, thank you- _ donald trump. christian fraser, thank you- as — donald trump. christian fraser, thank you. as we _ donald trump. christian fraser, thank you. as we said, - donald trump. christian fraser, thank you. as we said, cbs - thank you. as we said, cbs news, our partners in the us, projecting donald trump as the 47th president of the united states. the state of wisconsin taking him over that 270 electoral college votes he needed to win. we have been looking at the number all night and he was holding at 266. we
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knew one state would take him over but remarkable that it is wisconsin because that's a state the democrats of the blue wall states felt the best about. . , wall states felt the best about. ., , , , about. indeed, and they spent so much time _ about. indeed, and they spent so much time there _ about. indeed, and they spent| so much time there particularly around universities, courting that young vote, trying to grow the base. so much energy expended by them. and so much energy expended by the trump campaign as well in wisconsin, in pennsylvania and in michigan for that matter with donald trump holding his final rally in michigan, in grand rapids on monday night, after midnight in the early hours of tuesday morning. keeping with tradition, that's where he ended his race in 2016 and in 2020. third time a charm, he ended his race there this time as well. quite a dramatic turn out but we have to say it is what the donald trump campaign had been predicting. his senior adviser was briefing reporters
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on monday and said we will have a result on tuesday night, wednesday morning. that's how they saw it going and it has gone as per their plan. they had been — gone as per their plan. they had been confident - gone as per their plan. they had been confident in - gone as per their plan. they had been confident in the i gone as per their plan. they i had been confident in the last few weeks, they said they could win this easily. we saw the harris campaign grow some confidence in the last week, they felt she closed on a better message than donald trump, ending in a stronger way than trump, who had slip—ups with the madison square garden rally, the fact he strayed from the closing message which his speeches appeared rambling at times and went into darker territory, but it didn't matter. i keep thinking of the big poster in the west palm beach convention centre, becoming one of the favourite post as you have seen at rallies in recent weeks, trump will fix it. it's a catchall for everything, his photos and supporters so that. it appears that in some ways this was a voting populace also wanting to send a message to the incumbent, to the current
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administration. it incumbent, to the current administration.— incumbent, to the current administration. it is very like what we saw _ administration. it is very like what we saw in _ administration. it is very like what we saw in 2016 - administration. it is very like what we saw in 2016 for - administration. it is very like what we saw in 2016 for stop travelling round the swing states as we have over the last few months, it was a sentiment i picked up on of people saying, ifeel left i picked up on of people saying, i feel left behind. that's exactly the same thing i heard voters tell me in 2016, i feel left behind, i don't feel listened to. i'm working really hard but struggling to buy groceries. i am struggling, if you are a younger person, pay your rent, buy a house, get on the property ladder. people seeing options not available to them in life. donald trump saw that in 2015 and 2016 and he has seen it again now. he leaned hard into that, telling people, i'm like you, i can help you, you were better off under me than you are now. come with me and i will make things better again. we with me and i will make things better again-— better again. we can't overstate _ better again. we can't overstate the - better again. we can't overstate the fact - better again. we can'tj overstate the fact that better again. we can't - overstate the fact that this has been such a remarkable comeback. we keep using those words but think of all we have seenin words but think of all we have
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seen in donald trump's last four years. seen in donald trump's last fouryears. in seen in donald trump's last four years. in 2022, the mid—term elections where the trump picked candidates didn't perform very well. there were rumblings in washington and i remember being here at the time, there were rumblings in the republican party, is it time to move on from donald trump? then he announced he would run again. one of the candidates who bucked the trend in the mid—term elections was jd vance, winning his race to be senator in ohio, another reason donald trump likes to pick winners. hejoined him on the ticket. from there we went onwards as he started to build momentum to that first criminal indictment, and that started to turn the tide. even before the 2022 midterms, if we go back to when he was still in office in the last few weeks and when the certification of the ballots was due to happen, and january the 6th, we all remember that. big swathes of the republican party deserted him at that time. , , .,
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time. many people coming out and making — time. many people coming out and making statements, - time. many people coming out and making statements, not i time. many people coming out. and making statements, not my president, i don't want anything to do with him. they launched impeachment proceedings and all of that has been almost forgotten by the republican party. they have been riding in behind him again. you mentioned the indictments, he is also a convicted felon at this point. charges he denies and is appealing, but now he is president that will be the end of those for at least the next four years will stop it is a remarkable comeback, we use that word but it is appropriate in this case. jd vance said in a speech in florida, one of the biggest political comebacks of all time, and it is not hyperbole, it is accurate in this moment. he lost in 2020 and has come back and here he is, stronger than ever. looks like he will win the popular vote, which he hasn't done in the past two times, in addition to winning, as we have seen, the majority of the electoral couege the majority of the electoral college votes. we should say that the number on the screen, 279, that will not be the end
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of it, he will take their tally hire. ., ., , ., of it, he will take their tally hire. ., ., , hire. carl nasman has been in wisconsin _ hire. carl nasman has been in wisconsin for _ hire. carl nasman has been in wisconsin for several - hire. carl nasman has been in wisconsin for several days - hire. carl nasman has been in i wisconsin for several days now. you have travelled the country and spoken to voters will stop i called you in north carolina several months ago and in the aftermath of hurricane helene. how much does the results reflect what you have heard from voters across the country? it is remarkable when you speak to voters — it is remarkable when you speak to voters here because there was — to voters here because there was such— to voters here because there was such a focus from the democratic party on trying to win back— democratic party on trying to win back so many segments of their— win back so many segments of their prior— win back so many segments of their prior coalition that they felt they— their prior coalition that they felt they were losing in the final— felt they were losing in the final days of the campaign. here — final days of the campaign. here in _ final days of the campaign. here in wisconsin we saw multiple visits from kamala harris, _ multiple visits from kamala harris, we saw governor tim walz, — harris, we saw governor tim walz, massive rallies taking place — walz, massive rallies taking place in _ walz, massive rallies taking place in milwaukee, star—studded events. former president _ star—studded events. former president barack obama paid a visit _ president barack obama paid a visit this — president barack obama paid a visit. this is after the state was — visit. this is after the state was all— visit. this is after the state was all but forgotten in 2016 by the — was all but forgotten in 2016 by the democrats. hillary clinton _ by the democrats. hillary clinton barely campaign here at all.
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clinton barely campaign here at ail~ to — clinton barely campaign here at ail~ to see _ clinton barely campaign here at all. to see donald trump pull out the — all. to see donald trump pull out the victory is remarkable. there — out the victory is remarkable. there was _ out the victory is remarkable. there was talk among the democratic party here that they felt they— democratic party here that they felt they had the advantage when — felt they had the advantage when it— felt they had the advantage when it came to the on the ground _ when it came to the on the ground infrastructure to knocking on doors, phone banking, _ knocking on doors, phone banking, the ground game, getting _ banking, the ground game, getting voters to the polls. there — getting voters to the polls. there was a feeling they would have _ there was a feeling they would have a — there was a feeling they would have a lead, but looking back on it — have a lead, but looking back on it you _ have a lead, but looking back on it you saw this massive early— on it you saw this massive early voting here. it's one of the states where nearly half the states where nearly half the total of 2020 had even voted _ the total of 2020 had even voted before we got to today. we will — voted before we got to today. we will have to pass these numbers as we continue to dissect— numbers as we continue to dissect this election but it was — dissect this election but it was likely a big surge in donald _ was likely a big surge in donald trump's own supporters with republicans coming to the bolls _ with republicans coming to the polls early. you have to think the messaging from his campaign, which we saw at so many— campaign, which we saw at so many rallies, plastered everywhere, get out and vote early, — everywhere, get out and vote early, get your votes in, go to the polls. _ early, get your votes in, go to the polls, mail it in, whatever you have _ the polls, mail it in, whatever you have to do, this was such a
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change — you have to do, this was such a change had _ you have to do, this was such a change had a complete about—face from his previous 2020 — about—face from his previous 2020 campaign. getting those votes — 2020 campaign. getting those votes in — 2020 campaign. getting those votes in gave donald trump and the republican party the advantage from the get go. what we have — advantage from the get go. what we have seen tonight and through— we have seen tonight and through the campaign is democrats coming in and trying to retake — democrats coming in and trying to retake the advantage but it didn't— to retake the advantage but it didn't quite work. the results in this— didn't quite work. the results in this county weren't enough to push— in this county weren't enough to push kamala harris over the edge — to push kamala harris over the edge the _ to push kamala harris over the edge. the result we got moments a-o edge. the result we got moments ago from — edge. the result we got moments ago from milwaukee wasn't quite enough — ago from milwaukee wasn't quite enough. it was a numbers game here, _ enough. it was a numbers game here, looking at the big areas, the rural— here, looking at the big areas, the rural areas. here, looking at the big areas, the ruralareas. donald here, looking at the big areas, the rural areas. donald trump with— the rural areas. donald trump with enough of an advantage to take the — with enough of an advantage to take the blue wall state and turn — take the blue wall state and turn it — take the blue wall state and turn it red.— take the blue wall state and turn it red. ., ., , ., ., ~ turn it red. carl nasman, thank ou. we turn it red. carl nasman, thank you- we can — turn it red. carl nasman, thank you. we can speak _ turn it red. carl nasman, thank you. we can speak to _ turn it red. carl nasman, thank you. we can speak to sir- you. we can speak to sir richard dearlove, former mi6 chief and co—host of the one decision podcast. thanks for joining us. we havejust had the news that donald trump is projected as the 47th president of america. what will that mean
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for the so—called special relationship between the us and the uk? ~ , ., ., the uk? well, it is a real challenge _ the uk? well, it is a real challenge for _ the uk? well, it is a real challenge for the - the uk? well, it is a real challenge for the new . challenge for the new government in the uk. but donald trump was previously a supporter of the special relationship which i think ran very smoothly under his presidency, not without challenges, but there is no reason why if keir starmer remembers he is the british prime minister rather than the leader of the labour party, that can't be a successful relationship. i can point to the fact that tony blair and george bush, a labour party leader and a republican president, got on very well indeed. but of course there are challenges. this is a huge geopolitical upheaval and raises a number of questions about foreign policy.- about foreign policy. let's talk about _ about foreign policy. let's talk about some - about foreign policy. let's talk about some of - about foreign policy. let's
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talk about some of those | talk about some of those questions in foreign policy. first the war in ukraine, we are hearing from our correspondent in kyiv, what does it mean for us support to ukraine? i does it mean for us support to ukraine? ~ ., , does it mean for us support to ukraine? ,, ., , , ukraine? i think the answer is we don't know. _ ukraine? i think the answer is we don't know. i _ ukraine? i think the answer is we don't know. i am - ukraine? i think the answer is l we don't know. i am extremely worried about that particular issue because it is so vital to global security, vital to european security. i very much hope that trump will take a supportive attitude and not, as it were, pursue a deal with vladimir putin that would allow putin to claim victory in ukraine. my question in relation to that is, who will be in trump's national security team, who will be in the foreign policy team and what sort of influence can they bring to bear on him? i think the problems in the united states amongst republicans are well understood about not appeasing vladimir putin. you are familiar _ appeasing vladimir putin. you are familiar with _ appeasing vladimir putin. you are familiar with these individuals. is there someone you think might be his
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secretary of state? i you think might be his secretary of state? i don't know who _ secretary of state? i don't know who is _ secretary of state? i don't know who is in _ secretary of state? i don't know who is in his - secretary of state? i don't know who is in his team. i | secretary of state? i don't - know who is in his team. i know some of the previous members of past teams but many of those broke with trump, which is rather worrying, john bolton, james mattis and people like that. mike pompeo might come back. he has a very clear view of these issues. we can wait and see. there are a number of issues. there is nato membership. i think the issue of terrorism, which is not much talked about, is of great concern globally in terms of how this will affect international trade. how this will affect internationaltrade. i how this will affect international trade. i think the uk potentially might be in a good position vis—a—vis terrorism because there is a better chance of a trade agreement with a trump administered asian and a democratic administration. we can bring in the director of
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the us america programme at chatham house. great to have you. how do you see this victory for donald trump resetting the us relationship with europe in particular? it will be very difficult. we know european state leaders and experts have been thinking about this for years, certainly for months, talking about thinks like trump approving, anticipating what it might mean to have a democracy and leader from across the pond thatjust doesn't see eye to eye on a style of governance, and some of the key geopolitical priorities, on the basic question of alliances. and even if some of that is donald trump's style, his negotiating style and tough talk, the return to predictability, to a style of governance we haven't seenin style of governance we haven't seen in four years, we have
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grown accustomed tojoe biden's way of operating, and this is just a very radical shift from that. we also know donald trump has very different priorities when it comes to ukraine. we do not understand why donald trump has the affection and affinity for the russian leader. that will be a very significant concern heading over europe for the next four years. but also the next four years. but also the broader question of what it says about american democracy. here it is important to highlight this is a resounding victory for donald trump. it is especially resounding in the light of the electoral college will stop we are looking at an america right now that test has just shy of 66 million voters who voted for a different candidate, and over 70 million who voted for the former president. it's a country that is not agreed or aligned internally. if you look at some of the polling... brute internally. if you look at some of the polling. . ._ internally. if you look at some of the polling... we do have to
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leave it there _ of the polling... we do have to leave it there but _ of the polling... we do have to leave it there but thank - of the polling... we do have to leave it there but thank you . leave it there but thank you for joining leave it there but thank you forjoining us on bbc news. great to get your perspective. and that is a point she was making about how divided this country was going into the polling today and how divided it will be now with this result. . , it will be now with this result. ., , ., ., result. certainly for donald trum - , result. certainly for donald trump. the _ result. certainly for donald trump, the result - result. certainly for donald trump, the result he - result. certainly for donald i trump, the result he wanted result. certainly for donald - trump, the result he wanted to night and this morning, going exactly how the trump campaign hoped. he is predicted to be the 47th president of the united states.— the 47th president of the united states. the trump campaign _ united states. the trump campaign projected - united states. the trump campaign projected it - united states. the trump i campaign projected it would united states. the trump - campaign projected it would be a quick result and they would sweep the boards. it looks like they are going to sweep all of those seven swing states we have been talking about four hours tonight, and for weeks and months before that. it's a tremendous victory for donald trump and for the republican party as he is the 47th president of america. let's take a look _ president of america. let's take a look at _ president of america. let's take a look at how - president of america. let's take a look at how it - president of america. let's - take a look at how it unfolded.
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we do know i have the state of north carolina coming into us. a prediction that we can make at this hour. here we go, north carolina projected for donald trump. shill carolina pro'ected for donald trum -. �* .,, carolina pro'ected for donald trum.�* ., , ., trump. all those rallies, all that footfall _ trump. all those rallies, all that footfall from _ trump. all those rallies, all that footfall from the - trump. all those rallies, all| that footfall from the trump campaign in north carolina, especially in the past five days, appears to have paid off. this is huge, the second swing states now that has been protected as a win for donald trump. this is georgia, and its 16 electoral votes. brute trump. this is georgia, and its 16 electoral votes.— 16 electoral votes. we will continue _ 16 electoral votes. we will continue overnight - 16 electoral votes. we will
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continue overnight to - 16 electoral votes. we will| continue overnight to fight 16 electoral votes. we will. continue overnight to fight to make — continue overnight to fight to make sure that every vote is counted _ make sure that every vote is counted. that every voice has spoken — counted. that every voice has spoken. so you won't hear from the vice — spoken. so you won't hear from the vice president tonight. a the vice president tonight. major projection to give to you now, a really huge one. we can project pennsylvania for donald trump stop we came in with high expectations and once again the polls are wrong. i expectations and once again the polls are wrong.— polls are wrong. i think we “ust polls are wrong. i think we just witnessed _ polls are wrong. i think we just witnessed the - polls are wrong. i think we | just witnessed the greatest political comeback in the history— political comeback in the history of the united of america. history of the united of america-— history of the united of america. ~ ., ., ., , america. we are going to help our country — america. we are going to help our country heal. _ america. we are going to help our country heal. help - america. we are going to help our country heal. help our- our country heal. help our country heal. we have a country that needs help and it needs help very badly. we are going to fix our borders, we will fix everything about our country. that prediction coming to us from our cbs news partners, donald trump, america's 47th president.
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this is bbc news — with the latest on the us live from london. crowd chants: usa, usa. donald trump wins the election. saying that this will be a golden era for the usa. i just want to thank the american people for the extraordinary honour of being elected your 47th president and your 45th president. and i think that we just witnessed the greatest political comeback in the history of the united states of america. jubilant supporters celebrate, trump will be only the second person in history to serve a second — separate —
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term in the white house.

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