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mean higher and it hints that could mean higher prices. analysts think perhaps three rate cuts next year here but we're not done yet because what neither central bank really went into work president tom's policies and we all that campaign sound bites don't boys mean policy action but we do see a trade war, those tariffs and taxes on imports, that adds to price pressures. here the governor of the bank of england andrew bailey says he will argue alongside the chancellor for free trade. he will argue alongside the chancellorforfree trade. it he will argue alongside the chancellor for free trade. it may sound a bit distant but winning that battle will be key to keeping down inflation and interest rates falling on both sides of the atlantic. thank ou ve on both sides of the atlantic. thank you very much- _ the prince of wales says the last year has been the hardest of his life. speaking to reporters at the end of his visit to south africa for his earthshot environmental awards, he talked about how he'd coped after both his wife and his father were diagnosed with cancer.
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he said it had been dreadful and brutal but that he was proud of both of them. if you want to continue watching the bbc news, watch on iplayer. next, it's newsnight. the billionaire kingmaker and the president elect. how will the elon musk and donald trump partnership transform america, big tech and the world, and in whose interests? good evening. welcome to newsnight
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for insight and interviews. our panel tonight, kim darroch, who was the uk's national security adviser, as well as our man in washington — until his private thoughts about donald trump were exposed. and john ryley, who ran sky news for over a decade until last year. now, trump will begin to choose his cabinet and top officials for his second adminstration in the "days and weeks ahead". what will this tell us about his policies, and what we should try to do and what we should try to do about it, especially on his upheavals to on his upheavals to the world trade system? the world trade system? in a moment, nick will take us in a moment, nick will take us through the key players through the key players who are expected to be tapped up. who are expected to be tapped up. but one man above all is being but one man above all is being spoken of as the most influential spoken of as the most influential voice in trump's ear — the richest voice in trump's ear — the richest man in the world, elon musk, man in the world, elon musk, who was handing out actual who was handing out actual $1 million cheques to voters in pennsylvania during the campaign. $1 million cheques to voters well, i'll say it again, man, well, i'll say it again, man, i think this is the last election. i think this is the last election. if trump doesn't win, this if trump doesn't win, this is the last election. is the last election. # i come from scientists # i come from scientists and atheists and atheists # and white men who killed...# # and white men who killed...#
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i'm notjust maga. i'm notjust maga. i'm dark gothic maga. # technology, high quality, complex physiological experiments # and sacrilege in the name of public good # he taught me everything just like a daddy should # and you were beautiful and vulnerable and power and success # god damn, ifell for you, your flame—throwers # your tunnels and your tech # i studied code because i wanted to do something great like you # and the real tragedy is half of it was true...#
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# and the real tragedy is half of it was trut there you look at that, there you are, yesterday, the new president elect with his family, children, grandchildren and look over there, elon musk with some of his family. what that shows is that he is going to have a big role in this administration.- to have a big role in this administration. . . , administration. the inner circle but what about his _ administration. the inner circle but what about his business _ administration. the inner circle but what about his business interests? i what about his business interests? there are three global brands which explain why elon musk is the richest person in the world. tesla, spacex and x. let's look at tesla, it bounces around, how much it is worth, at one point today it was worth, at one point today it was worth $933 billion and he has a i3% share in that. his overall wealth rose yesterday to around $298 billion after shares in tesla rose byjust under i2%. quite handy being close to the next president. then look at spacex which is worth $210 billion, he's got a 42% share in that and then x, worth about $9.4
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billion and he's gotjust under 10% in that. x has shot down in value since elon musk bought it in 2022 but, hey, that brought him a lot of influence. it got him through the door with donald trump after all of those supportive messages on the platform. but arguably what has won elon musk a place in donald trump's art is spacex. elon musk is widely seen as a visionary. 0ur art is spacex. elon musk is widely seen as a visionary. our own astronomer royal described him in this area as a 21st—century isambard kingdom brunel. elon musk has about 7000 starlink satellites, some of which are really crucial in ukraine. do you remember this? this is the absolutely cutting edge of space rocket technology, and what that was was the successful return of the booster of the starship rocket which is the largest ever space rocket and
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thatis is the largest ever space rocket and that is designed to take heavy payloads to mars. elon musk has ambitions in that part of our universe. that has really caught the imagination of donald trump. but this spaceship came down and i saw those engines firing and it looked like it was over, it was going to smash. and then i saw the fire pour out from the left side and it put it straight, and it came down so gently and then it wrapped those arms around it and it held it. just like you hold your baby at night, your little baby. so that's elon musk�*s business. what is his political strategy? i think there are two micro core elements to elon musk�*s game plan. firstly, political beliefs. he is an evangelist for freedom of speech. he believes donald trump will promote that. he believes that democrats would curtail that. of course, he has business interests. spacex needs government contracts and tesla needs
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the right regulation for them and maybe not such marvellous regulation for their competitors.— we'll talk to our panel in a moment. but first on newsnight we're joined by elon musk�*s dad, errol musk. he isjoining us from cape town. thank you forjoining us. what does yourson thank you forjoining us. what does your son think that he is going to get out of his investment, his funding, his $1 million checks into the trunk campaign and american politics? i the trunk campaign and american olitics? ., �* ~' the trunk campaign and american olitics? ., �* ~ ., , politics? i don't think he wants an hinu politics? i don't think he wants anything out — politics? i don't think he wants anything out of _ politics? i don't think he wants anything out of it _ politics? i don't think he wants anything out of it for— politics? i don't think he wants anything out of it for himself. l politics? i don't think he wants - anything out of it for himself. why would he want anything for himself? he has everything. 50 would he want anything for himself? he has everything.— he has everything. so what is the --urose he has everything. so what is the purpose of _ he has everything. so what is the purpose of his — he has everything. so what is the purpose of his closeness - he has everything. so what is the purpose of his closeness to - he has everything. so what is the purpose of his closeness to the i purpose of his closeness to the president—elect? purpose of his closeness to the president-elect?— purpose of his closeness to the president-elect? ~ , ., ~ ., president-elect? well, you know, in the last few — president-elect? well, you know, in the last few years, _ president-elect? well, you know, in the last few years, he _ president-elect? well, you know, in the last few years, he has _ president-elect? well, you know, in the last few years, he has seen - president-elect? well, you know, in the last few years, he has seen the l the last few years, he has seen the deterioration of circumstances in the world and in north america. hosp
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the world and in north america. how much of a kingmaker do you think he's going to be in the court of donald trump?— he's going to be in the court of donald trump? he's going to be in the court of donald trum? . ,, ~ ., �* donald trump? yeah, you know, i'm not sure what _ donald trump? yeah, you know, i'm not sure what you're _ donald trump? yeah, you know, i'm not sure what you're getting - donald trump? yeah, you know, i'm not sure what you're getting at. - donald trump? yeah, you know, i'm not sure what you're getting at. he l not sure what you're getting at. he has seen the deterioration of things in the world in the last four years. you know, he wants to prevent that. —— at the last few years. he wants to keep things on the right track. you may have noticed that they had a pole in america and 80% of the population said america is on the wrong path. he wants to be part of putting america back on the right path and being the country that it always has been and can be even better. you know, put an end, at least reduce wokeness to an acceptable level, reduce dvi to an acceptable level, reduce dvi to an acceptable level, reduce dvi to an acceptable level and stop things like men competing with women in women's sports. and then of course, making the economy run on business
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lines, not along the lines that bureaucrats think it could run on. but he should have some influence, carving out the rules of the road for tech, ai, autonomous vehicles, he will have some considerable influence in that regard?- he will have some considerable influence in that regard? well, no, ou influence in that regard? well, no, you misunderstand. _ influence in that regard? well, no, you misunderstand. the _ influence in that regard? well, no, you misunderstand. the heads- influence in that regard? well, no, you misunderstand. the heads of. you misunderstand. the heads of government come to him, he doesn't government come to him, he doesn't go to them. they come to him and say to him, we will do this and that for you. i think you have misunderstood the situation. he is not in the queue for hand—outs or for getting any help. people come to him. the heads of state come to him and ask him, please, to consider their country for his factories, please, to consider their countries for the things that he does. i think you haveit things that he does. i think you have it a bit the wrong way round. 0k, have it a bit the wrong way round. ok, so for example, the fact that the value of his shareholding in tesla has gone up $20 billion, for you, that is totally immaterial. ida.
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you, that is totally immaterial. no, he is share — you, that is totally immaterial. no, he is share in _ you, that is totally immaterial. no, he is share in tesla _ you, that is totally immaterial. iifr, he is share in tesla is approximately 30%, but they owe him £56 billion —— 50 $6 billion in back pay, his shareholding is about 23%, not 13%. yeah, i'm not sure why you are talking about the money. if he started spending $1 million a day, he would still be spending it in 1200 years' time. he he would still be spending it in 1200 years' time.— he would still be spending it in 1200 years' time. he fell out with the previous _ 1200 years' time. he fell out with the previous administration - 1200 years' time. he fell out with the previous administration in - the previous administration in america partly because he was snubbed over a conference around electric vehicles in 2021. yes. so how did we _ electric vehicles in 2021. yes. so how did we get _ electric vehicles in 2021. yes. so how did we get from _ electric vehicles in 2021. yes so how did we get from there to electric vehicles in 2021. 123 so how did we get from there to what has happened in the past 24 hours? well, you know, biden is an idiot and a criminal. i think you are not too well informed there in england. at any rate, the thing is that biden did not invite elon to an electric car summit did not invite elon to an electric carsummitand in did not invite elon to an electric car summit and in fact invited everybody else and ignored tesla
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which had already sold a million cars that year. and then biden, you know, this half wit of a president, so president then pronounced gm as the leading electric car manufacturer in america, they produced 26 cars that you consult one. ., ., , . one. that really affected him, it sounds quite — one. that really affected him, it sounds quite a _ one. that really affected him, it sounds quite a small— one. that really affected him, it sounds quite a small thing - one. that really affected him, it sounds quite a small thing in i one. that really affected him, it sounds quite a small thing in al one. that really affected him, it - sounds quite a small thing in a way. it would affect anybody with the slightest... you know, it would affect anybody, he is a warm person, he is a human being. how must he view that? at first, he couldn't believe it. and then he started seeing all the misinformation on twitter at the time, and all of the massive propaganda was made known to him because up until that time, he had very little interest in politics and then he decided, well, if this is what twitter is doing, he's going to buy it and turn it into a proper platform for free speech and that is what he did. that is why he bought
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twitter. , , ., , ., twitter. give us an insight, what if ou like twitter. give us an insight, what if you like as — twitter. give us an insight, what if you like as a _ twitter. give us an insight, what if you like as a person? _ twitter. give us an insight, what if you like as a person? what - twitter. give us an insight, what if you like as a person? what drives| you like as a person? what drives your son? mr; you like as a person? what drives our son? y you like as a person? what drives our son? g , you like as a person? what drives your son?— your son? my son? he is a nice erson, your son? my son? he is a nice person. a _ your son? my son? he is a nice person. a very _ your son? my son? he is a nice person, a very nice _ your son? my son? he is a nice person, a very nice person. - your son? my son? he is a nice person, a very nice person. he| your son? my son? he is a nice - person, a very nice person. he has a very good heart. he is very, you know, into... you know, as you may have read, making human beings multi—planetary so that in the event of an extinction level event, we will still be around. that is what he is using all his money for. he is not buying himself yachts and aeroplanes all playthings and things like that, he is using all the money he has to try to get us, without any help at all from anyone, to try to get us to another planet as well. there is a big paradox here of course because he made so much money out of tesla selling green cards to the world's liberals, many of whom are now shocked by his support for donald trump, isn't that a danger to his brand and because the brand which he is so invested in? you
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know, electric _ which he is so invested in? you know, electric cars _ which he is so invested in? you know, electric cars are - which he is so invested in? ym know, electric cars are not green vehicles sold to liberals, the vast majority of tesla vehicles have been sold to normal people. the electric vehicle isjust sold to normal people. the electric vehicle is just a sold to normal people. the electric vehicle isjust a much better vehicle, you know, you mentioned brunel, yeah, i know brunel try to improve things and elon tries to improve things and elon tries to improve things, the electric cuts to the petrol car what the petrol car was to the steam engine. the net —— the electric car is to the petrol car. i don't know if you know but when you drive cars these days, they try to make them as close to an electric car as possible so that you don't hear anything, but you do, you don't hear anything, but you do, you don't hear anything, but you do, you don't hear the gears change, but you do, and that you can go fast. but if you knew what was going on in front of you under the bonnet, it is boiling oil, boiling water and explosions. if you look at an electric car, it is nothing like that, if you looked underneath, you wouldn't see anything. it is far
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better technology, you know. it has got very little to do with greening the world or anything like that. it is just better technology.- the world or anything like that. it is just better technology. thank you for “oininu is just better technology. thank you forjoining us- _ is just better technology. thank you forjoining us. and _ is just better technology. thank you forjoining us. and for— is just better technology. thank you forjoining us. and for giving - is just better technology. thank you forjoining us. and for giving us - is just better technology. thank you forjoining us. and for giving us an i forjoining us. and for giving us an insight into your son, much appreciated. so what does elon musk get in return for his political investment? will he do to america what he did to twitter? vivian schiller is the former head of news at twitter and has worked at cnn and nbc. she joins us from new york as part of our panel. now, he clearly was obviously was one of and is now the world's richest man, what designs do you think he has with the power and influence he now clearly has? 0ver influence he now clearly has? over the president—elect. influence he now clearly has? over the president-elect.— the president-elect. well, 'ust cominu the president-elect. well, 'ust coming offfi the president-elect. well, 'ust coming off the i the president-elect. well, 'ust coming off the previous h the president-elect. well, just i coming off the previous remarks, the president-elect. well, just - coming off the previous remarks, i will say that trump was on the record as being against electric cars and did not want their to be electric fuelling stations and then
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in august, he said, i am for electric cars, i have to be because elon endorsed me very strongly. that could tell you a bit about the influence that elon musk has and a little bit of how trump, now president—elect trump operates in terms of his supporters. but what is most interesting to me is the role of elon musk and his voice on twitter, now x. and the journey that we have seen x take from the time that elon musk bought it for $44 billion, a number of years ago, until today. billion, a number of years ago, untiltoday. i billion, a number of years ago, until today. i think originally, when he bought it, the conventional wisdom on the street and from the media was that it was a terrible deal, and he overspent and he then proceeded to destroy the value of twitter, renamed it x, when in fact, if you look at it from the
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perspective of x being a very, very powerful megaphone for elon musk to speak and for his supporters to speak and for his supporters to speak and for his supporters to speak and to put out a lot of frankly false information out into the world, that $44 billion for him is certainly looking like a bargain. yes, obviously in financial value it has collapsed in value if you listen to the people that value the things, and you yourself said that he would run it into the ground but you changed your view on why and how he has made that work? asa as a media platform it is a disaster, the advertisers have fled and he has destroyed the value of x as a media brand. whati and he has destroyed the value of x as a media brand. what i am suggesting is whether he did this intentionally or not, i have no idea, but he has turned it into a platform for his views and a way to galvanise his power and, frankly, he has done that very effectively
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because we will never know how much impact his messages on x had in getting trump elected, but some contribution. but he has not been able to leverage that into an incredibly powerful position in the upcoming trump administration. let’s upcoming trump administration. let's brina in upcoming trump administration. let's bring in john — upcoming trump administration. let's bring in john reilly. _ upcoming trump administration. let's bring injohn reilly. is that how you see it? do you see x as a conscious player in this election that has affected the results? i think it has been a factor. i think one has— think it has been a factor. i think one has to — think it has been a factor. i think one has to remember that elon musk is a big _ one has to remember that elon musk is a big character. when you have two for— is a big character. when you have two for characters together they don't _ two for characters together they don't always agree. i think this will end — don't always agree. i think this will end in— don't always agree. i think this will end in tears. last month, when donald _ will end in tears. last month, when donald trump was interviewed byjoe wogan. _ donald trump was interviewed byjoe wogan. he _ donald trump was interviewed byjoe wogan, he said the biggest mistake he made _ wogan, he said the biggest mistake he made in his presidency was who he appointed _ he made in his presidency was who he appointed at _ he made in his presidency was who he appointed at the start. he said there — appointed at the start. he said there were bad people and they were disloyal— there were bad people and they were disloyal people. he will be watching
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people _ disloyal people. he will be watching people who he appoints in the next several— people who he appoints in the next several days to be ultra—loyal. elon musk— several days to be ultra—loyal. elon musk will_ several days to be ultra—loyal. elon musk will not be ultra—loyal, he is his own _ musk will not be ultra—loyal, he is his own boss, he is a very wealthy guy, _ his own boss, he is a very wealthy guy, the _ his own boss, he is a very wealthy guy, the richest on the planet. he will not _ guy, the richest on the planet. he will not take what donald trump says always _ will not take what donald trump says always to _ will not take what donald trump says always to heart. he will be a troublemaker. the comparison you mentioned — troublemaker. the comparison you mentioned with isambard kingdom brunel, _ mentioned with isambard kingdom brunel, the great victorian innovator, he was a very difficult luy innovator, he was a very difficult guy as _ innovator, he was a very difficult guy as well— innovator, he was a very difficult guy as well and i think elon musk is that difficult guy.— that difficult guy. kim, when you were in the _ that difficult guy. kim, when you were in the states, _ that difficult guy. kim, when you were in the states, how- that difficult guy. kim, when you i were in the states, how influential were in the states, how influential were the big billionaire classes of the states? did they really get their way and their say? those who are visible. — their way and their say? those who are visible, strong _ their way and their say? those who are visible, strong supporters - their way and their say? those who are visible, strong supporters of i are visible, strong supporters of the administration, _ are visible, strong supporters of the administration, and - are visible, strong supporters of the administration, and in - are visible, strong supporters of the administration, and in my. are visible, strong supporters of. the administration, and in my first year there — the administration, and in my first year there it — the administration, and in my first year there it was _ the administration, and in my first year there it was the _ the administration, and in my first year there it was the last - the administration, and in my first year there it was the last year- the administration, and in my first year there it was the last year of. year there it was the last year of the barack— year there it was the last year of the barack 0bama _ year there it was the last year ofi the barack 0bama administration year there it was the last year of- the barack 0bama administration and the barack 0bama administration and the second _ the barack 0bama administration and the second was— the barack 0bama administration and the second was the _ the barack 0bama administration and the second was the trump _ the second was the trump administration, _ the second was the trump administration, they- the second was the trumpj administration, they could the second was the trump - administration, they could get access— administration, they could get access to _ administration, they could get access to see _ administration, they could get access to see the _ administration, they could get access to see the president i administration, they could get i access to see the president when they wanted _
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access to see the president when they wanted it— access to see the president when they wanted. it is _ access to see the president when they wanted. it is very— access to see the president when they wanted. it is very curious i they wanted. it is very curious where — they wanted. it is very curious where we _ they wanted. it is very curious where we are _ they wanted. it is very curious where we are now _ they wanted. it is very curious where we are now with - they wanted. it is very curious where we are now with elon . they wanted. it is very curious - where we are now with elon musk in this position — where we are now with elon musk in this position in _ where we are now with elon musk in this position. in donald _ where we are now with elon musk in this position. in donald trump - where we are now with elon musk in this position. in donald trump is - where we are now with elon musk in this position. in donald trump is my first time _ this position. in donald trump is my first time he — this position. in donald trump is my first time he was _ this position. in donald trump is my first time he was quite _ this position. in donald trump is my first time he was quite hostile - this position. in donald trump is my first time he was quite hostile and l first time he was quite hostile and quite _ first time he was quite hostile and quite suspicious— first time he was quite hostile and quite suspicious of— first time he was quite hostile and quite suspicious of most _ first time he was quite hostile and quite suspicious of most of- first time he was quite hostile and quite suspicious of most of siliconj quite suspicious of most of silicon valley _ quite suspicious of most of silicon valley he — quite suspicious of most of silicon valley. he thought _ quite suspicious of most of silicon valley. he thought most - quite suspicious of most of silicon valley. he thought most of - quite suspicious of most of silicon valley. he thought most of them i quite suspicious of most of silicon - valley. he thought most of them were against _ valley. he thought most of them were against him _ valley. he thought most of them were against him he — valley. he thought most of them were against him. he didn't— valley. he thought most of them were against him. he didn't really— against him. he didn't really understand _ against him. he didn't really understand what— against him. he didn't really understand what they - against him. he didn't really understand what they did, . against him. he didn't really. understand what they did, the relationship _ understand what they did, the relationship was _ understand what they did, the relationship was pretty- understand what they did, the relationship was pretty poor, i understand what they did, the l relationship was pretty poor, he understand what they did, the - relationship was pretty poor, he was not a _ relationship was pretty poor, he was not a great _ relationship was pretty poor, he was not a great visitor— relationship was pretty poor, he was not a great visitor to _ relationship was pretty poor, he was not a great visitor to them _ relationship was pretty poor, he was not a great visitor to them and - relationship was pretty poor, he was not a great visitor to them and he i not a great visitor to them and he did not— not a great visitor to them and he did not get— not a great visitor to them and he did not get them _ not a great visitor to them and he did not get them to _ not a great visitor to them and he did not get them to the _ not a great visitor to them and he did not get them to the white - not a great visitor to them and he i did not get them to the white house a lot _ did not get them to the white house a lot so _ did not get them to the white house a lot so having _ did not get them to the white house a lot. so having the _ did not get them to the white house a lot. so having the elon _ did not get them to the white house a lot. so having the elon musk- did not get them to the white house a lot. so having the elon musk as . a lot. so having the elon musk as trump _ a lot. so having the elon musk as trump is — a lot. so having the elon musk as trump is my— a lot. so having the elon musk as trump is my best _ a lot. so having the elon musk as trump is my best friend - a lot. so having the elon musk as trump is my best friend is- a lot. so having the elon musk as trump is my best friend is prettyl trump is my best friend is pretty extraordinary _ trump is my best friend is pretty extraordinary. there _ trump is my best friend is pretty extraordinary. there is _ trump is my best friend is pretty extraordinary. there is certainlyl extraordinary. there is certainly going _ extraordinary. there is certainly going to — extraordinary. there is certainly going to he _ extraordinary. there is certainly going to be something - extraordinary. there is certainly going to be something in- extraordinary. there is certainly going to be something in it - extraordinary. there is certainly going to be something in it for. extraordinary. there is certainly. going to be something in it for elon musk, _ going to be something in it for elon musk, whatever— going to be something in it for elon musk, whatever his _ going to be something in it for elon musk, whatever his father - going to be something in it for elon musk, whatever his father says, . going to be something in it for elon musk, whatever his father says, ini musk, whatever his father says, in terms _ musk, whatever his father says, in terms of— musk, whatever his father says, in terms of future _ musk, whatever his father says, in terms of future regulation - musk, whatever his father says, in terms of future regulation in - musk, whatever his father says, in terms of future regulation in this l terms of future regulation in this country — terms of future regulation in this country the _ terms of future regulation in this country. the regulation- terms of future regulation in this country. the regulation of- terms of future regulation in this country. the regulation of social| country. the regulation of social media — country. the regulation of social media. lt— country. the regulation of social media. , ., , ., media. it is not 'ust social media. the rules of— media. it is notjust social media. the rules of the _ media. it is notjust social media. the rules of the road _ media. it is notjust social media. the rules of the road and - media. it is notjust social media. the rules of the road and artificial intelligence, which could be the biggest concentration of power, politically and financially in our times, and it is going to happen now in the next five years in the trump presidency. this will be quite something. what donald trump is my administration does on al could
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greatly empower the tech pros who have supported him. yes. greatly empower the tech pros who have supported him. yes, certainly. we don't know— have supported him. yes, certainly. we don't know what _ have supported him. yes, certainly. we don't know what he _ have supported him. yes, certainly. we don't know what he is _ have supported him. yes, certainly. we don't know what he is planning i have supported him. yes, certainly. | we don't know what he is planning to do around ai. he has signalled he was going to council president biden's ai executive order on day one along with a number of other executive orders i think he wants to cancel. i think he is also quite bullish on competing with china and wants to make sure that american ai companies last china's capability. he is much less keen on regulation so i think we will see a pulling back that has been reflected in the stock prices over the last two days. i think we will see a pulling back and that will be a boon to the big tech companies, to be sure. thanks for that, vivian. _ tech companies, to be sure. thanks for that, vivian. let's _ tech companies, to be sure. thanks for that, vivian. let's bring - tech companies, to be sure. thanks for that, vivian. let's bring in - for that, vivian. let's bring in nick. we were talking about the appointment in the cabinet, who else
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might be influential? in appointment in the cabinet, who else might be influential?— might be influential? in the last few minutes _ might be influential? in the last few minutes we _ might be influential? in the last few minutes we have _ might be influential? in the last few minutes we have just - might be influential? in the last few minutes we have just had . might be influential? in the last i few minutes we have just had the first appointment to the new trump administration. if we take a look we can look at some of the names we think might have a role and hopefully that will come up on our screens. if you look in the bottom the middle you will see a picture of susie wiles, who was a key figure in running donald trump is my campaign. she is going to be the new white house chief of staff and donald trump in his announcement says, she helped me achieve one of the greatest political victories in american history. she has had great praise. essentially they say that she has had two great qualities in this campaign. 2799 00:21:42,890 -->
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