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then your second question. i forgot. we are an old city with a tumultuous history. we are an international city. as an international city. as an international city. as an international city we also have the international tensions in our city. and we are used to it. we pride ourselves that we are a peaceful city and a tolerant city. last night we were very much ashamed because tolerance and peace were not there.
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translation: did you contact israel— translation: did you contact israel last night particularly relating to the signals? had you discussed this beforehand chris— you discussed this beforehand chris wright i spoke to the israeli _ chris wright i spoke to the israeli ambassador several times_ israeli ambassador several times last night regarding the safety— times last night regarding the safety of the supporters in amsterdam, hotels where they were _ amsterdam, hotels where they were staying. based on his information i have also informed the police. when did you decide to reduce the amount of police — you decide to reduce the amount of police available or standing by in — of police available or standing by in the _ of police available or standing by in the city, particularly with— by in the city, particularly with those hit and run actions? we have — with those hit and run actions? we have also been in contact with— we have also been in contact with the _ we have also been in contact with the police officers
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travelling with the supporters and asked them what was going on in _ and asked them what was going on in the — and asked them what was going on in the group. when it was quiet — on in the group. when it was quiet we _ on in the group. when it was quiet we reduce the amount of police — quiet we reduce the amount of police in — quiet we reduce the amount of police in the centre. when it was — police in the centre. when it was calm _ police in the centre. when it was calm we decided to really reduce — was calm we decided to really reduce the amount of police officers _ reduce the amount of police officers available after three. translation: additional question. it is said that some israeli services have also contacted you and express their warnings. from israel the dutch
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intelligence services was not addressed. from this press conference we have the image that you try your best and that there were some of scooters going around amsterdam city centres and doing hit and run actions and that you try to do anything possible. why were there no officers on the dam square, it was the obvious place? square, it was the obvious lace? �* ,, �* �* , square, it was the obvious lace? �* ,, ~ a square, it was the obvious lace? �* ,,~ a place? translation: as soon as there was an _ place? translation: as soon as there was an instance _ place? translation: as soon as there was an instance we - place? translation: as soon as there was an instance we had - there was an instance we had people — there was an instance we had people there. the suspects were atready— people there. the suspects were already gone quite quickly after— already gone quite quickly after the hit and run. this happened throughout the city centre — happened throughout the city centre. we have tried to do this— centre. we have tried to do this as _ centre. we have tried to do this as quickly as possible. we have _ this as quickly as possible. we have always had police officers available. if you see that they
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were — available. if you see that they were hot— available. if you see that they were not there, that is absent wrong — were not there, that is absent wrong. and you may have seen videos, — wrong. and you may have seen videos, but _ wrong. and you may have seen videos, but those videos might not have — videos, but those videos might not have shown the full picture _ not have shown the full picture. we have had larger groups _ picture. we have had larger groups. and for larger groups it is easier— groups. and for larger groups it is easier to maintain and control— it is easier to maintain and control them. it is easier to maintain and controlthem. regarding it is easier to maintain and control them. regarding to the hit and — control them. regarding to the hit and run actions there is no way— hit and run actions there is no way we — hit and run actions there is no way we are _ hit and run actions there is no way we are playing it down. in the police _ way we are playing it down. in the police operation it is more complicated to address than maintain large groups in one tocatioh~ _ maintain large groups in one location. these boys on scooters, it seems that they are moroccan dutch people that performed these actions. translation: are you also reaching out to this community?
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translation: what the ethnicity or nationality is i cannot say, this— or nationality is i cannot say, this is— or nationality is i cannot say, this is part _ or nationality is i cannot say, this is part of the investigation. we have the peace _ investigation. we have the peace scenario. and since the 7th of— peace scenario. and since the 7th of october we have always been — 7th of october we have always been in — 7th of october we have always been in contact with several social— been in contact with several social organisations in the city— social organisations in the city with— social organisations in the city with all kinds of ethnic backgrounds and this piece script— backgrounds and this piece script will still be operational and we will always stay in — operational and we will always stay in contact with all communities and ethnic minorities. translation: you see it is a black day, which it is. there was also the commemoration of the night of the broken glass last night, the kristallnacht,
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so the three of you are here, prosecution, police, mayor, but in the second world war europe three organisations have not had a good reputation, because people were deported with help of the police. the family of anne frank was not taken away by nancys, backed by amsterdam police. —— by nazis. maybe this is the darkest day in amsterdam history. foryou is the darkest day in amsterdam history. for you it is not possible to control everything in the city. but you are not elected as mayor. why don't you
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conclude and you feel that you have to resign? because this is the first pogrom after the war. before you start —— translation: you did not mention your name. first of all i was elected by amsterdam city council. then i was appointed by the crown and i represent everyone. yes, during — i represent everyone. yes, during the second world war, and i— during the second world war, and i started with that as well, _ and i started with that as well, that we abandoned the jewish— well, that we abandoned the jewish population in a terrible way, — jewish population in a terrible way, and _ jewish population in a terrible way, and under my responsibility we are now investigating that by the way
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that the government has handled the jewish population at the time — the jewish population at the time. and of course we are very much _ time. and of course we are very much ashamed by the past. translation: why don't you resign? is your position that much more important? translation: you started basing this hot— translation: you started basing this not me personally, but the three _ this not me personally, but the three of— this not me personally, but the three of us are maintaining security— three of us are maintaining security and safety of the city _ security and safety of the city we _ security and safety of the city. we do that as responsible as possible. that is why i am here — as possible. that is why i am here as — as possible. that is why i am here as well.
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translation: were idf symbols shown? by the supporters of maccabi tel aviv? and is it correct that there was another confrontation with a group of amsterdam citizens? translation: i couldn't say that translation: icouldn't say that at— translation: i couldn't say that at this moment, it is stilt— that at this moment, it is still part— that at this moment, it is still part of the investigation. still part of the investiuation. �* . . investigation. translation: cou - le investigation. translation: coule of investigation. translation: couple of more _ investigation. translation: couple of more questions. i you would like to prosecute as quickly as possible and are looking into keeping them in detention as well and based on
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which articles are you going to use in their prosecution in comparison to normal riots? translation: it is public violence that we would like to prosecute them for. what is the organisation behind it? was that— organisation behind it? was that organised? that could be criminal— that organised? that could be criminal cooperation. i don't have — criminal cooperation. idon't have too— criminal cooperation. i don't have too much proof of that or signals— have too much proof of that or signals for— have too much proof of that or signals for that at this moment. but for me it is important that we immediately proceed — important that we immediately proceed to action. so that we can prosecute people for public viotehce — can prosecute people for public violence and do further investigation afterwards. at first— investigation afterwards. at first of— investigation afterwards. at first of all we need to identify and detain these people. translation: that it is about anti—semitism, is that to play
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anti—semitism, is that to play a role in the investigation? translation: it will burden their— translation: it will burden their fine or punishment extra. there — their fine or punishment extra. there are — their fine or punishment extra. there are certain regulations for that _ there are certain regulations forthat. if there are certain regulations for that. if you perform actiohs _ for that. if you perform actions based on that, then you might— actions based on that, then you might think of a higher, a longer— might think of a higher, a longer prison sentence. translation: we have about ten minutes. 800 police officers have been in the — 800 police officers have been in the city _ 800 police officers have been in the city centre _ 800 police officers have been in the city centre during - 800 police officers have been in the city centre during the l in the city centre during the night — in the city centre during the night untit— in the city centre during the night until three _ in the city centre during the night until three o'clock. i in the city centre during the i night until three o'clock. how was _ night until three o'clock. how was this— night until three o'clock. how was this att— night until three o'clock. how was this all possible? - night until three o'clock. how was this all possible? are - night until three o'clock. how| was this all possible? are you looking — was this all possible? are you looking back— was this all possible? are you looking back on _ was this all possible? are you looking back on this _ was this all possible? are you looking back on this night - was this all possible? are you looking back on this night and seeing — looking back on this night and seeing that— looking back on this night and seeing that we _ looking back on this night and seeing that we have - looking back on this night and seeing that we have done - looking back on this night and. seeing that we have done well, or maybe — seeing that we have done well, or maybe there _ seeing that we have done well, or maybe there are _ or maybe there are . miscommunications?
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or maybe there are miscommunications? �* . �* miscommunications? translation: thejudgment _ miscommunications? translation: the judgment on _ miscommunications? translation: the judgment on our _ miscommunications? translation: the judgment on our performance i the judgment on our performance is hot _ the judgment on our performance is not relevant at this moment, but the — is not relevant at this moment, but the 800 police officers were — but the 800 police officers were in _ but the 800 police officers were in several locations. in several— were in several locations. in several units. and obviously severat _ several units. and obviously several things took place. in the square, also in commemoration of the night of the broken glass. and we have employed these police officers in these — employed these police officers in these particular locations. we don't _ in these particular locations. we don't feel that we have deployed... we don't feel that we have delo ed... ~ ,, ~ ., deployed... translation: how many peeple — deployed... translation: how many people have _ deployed... translation: how many people have you _ deployed... translation: how| many people have you detained, arrested? — many people have you detained, arrested? �* ' . :: :: arrested? after 12 we had 200 officers still _ arrested? after 12 we had 200 officers still in _ arrested? after 12 we had 200 officers still in the _ arrested? after 12 we had 200 officers still in the city - officers still in the city centre _ officers still in the city centre. and that is quite a lot for the — centre. and that is quite a lot for the expectation that we had beforehand.—
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for the expectation that we had beforehand. translation: i do here ou beforehand. translation: i do here you can _ beforehand. translation: i do here you can greeting _ beforehand. translation: i do here you can greeting yourself. | here you can greeting yourself. it is here you can greeting yourself. it is hot — here you can greeting yourself. it is hot the _ here you can greeting yourself. it is not the amount— here you can greeting yourself. it is not the amount of- here you can greeting yourself. it is not the amount of police . it is not the amount of police officers — it is not the amount of police officers that _ it is not the amount of police officers that was _ it is not the amount of police officers that was the - it is not the amount of police. officers that was the problem. it officers that was the problem. it was — officers that was the problem. it was the _ officers that was the problem. it was the nature _ officers that was the problem. it was the nature of— officers that was the problem. it was the nature of the - it was the nature of the behaviour _ it was the nature of the behaviour of _ it was the nature of the behaviour of the - it was the nature of the behaviour of the rioters it was the nature of the - behaviour of the rioters was the problem _ behaviour of the rioters was the problem. behaviour of the rioters was the roblem. �* ,, . ~ the problem. translation: we have also had — the problem. translation: we have also had responses - the problem. translation: we have also had responses from i have also had responses from the jewish have also had responses from thejewish community have also had responses from the jewish community today. and that anti—zionist signals were also shown and seen and heard.
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translation: we do this in the same _ translation: we do this in the same way as colleagues in other cities _ same way as colleagues in other cities it— same way as colleagues in other cities it is— same way as colleagues in other cities. it is not that in amsterdam we have special rule for certain— amsterdam we have special rule for certain groups, we judge every— for certain groups, we judge every demonstration on its own merits, — every demonstration on its own merits, and i have explained this— merits, and i have explained this to — merits, and i have explained this to you several times. we have — this to you several times. we have a — this to you several times. we have a limited possibility to change _ have a limited possibility to change these regulations. translation: the first question is why didn't you decide to decide on measures that you are doing today beforehand? because we have never seen this kind of violence before. brute we have never seen this kind of violence before.— violence before. we are responding _ violence before. we are responding now - violence before. we are responding now to - violence before. we are l responding now to events violence before. we are -
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responding now to events that actually — responding now to events that actually took place. translation: you have also been in touch with national coordination for prevention of terrorism. did you talk to them about a wrong analysis, maybe? translation: we have not had time to— translation: we have not had time to do that at the moment. we are — time to do that at the moment. we are still working on an independent organisation on the preparations on how the events ran its— preparations on how the events ran its course on the authorities, so we still have to look— authorities, so we still have to took at— authorities, so we still have to look at that. translation: wejust translation: we just heard about translation: wejust heard about the fans of maccabi tel
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aviv, that they also may be have provoked certain actions. translation: that will be part of the _ translation: that will be part of the investigation. several instances took place but they have — instances took place but they have definitely had an influence on each other. and it's may— influence on each other. and it's may have influenced the entire — it's may have influenced the entire atmosphere in the city, but that— entire atmosphere in the city, but that is— entire atmosphere in the city, but that is no excuse for what happened last night. translation: do you know what the party leaders will come together on this? transition back council _ together on this? transition back council members - together on this? transition back council members are l together on this? transition - back council members are here, i back council members are here, i have _ back council members are here, i have promised them that as soon — i have promised them that as soon as— i have promised them that as soon as possible we will present— soon as possible we will present them with the facts. we feel present them with the facts. we feet it _ present them with the facts. we feet it is — present them with the facts. we feel it is of great importance. so we — feel it is of great importance. so we are _ feel it is of great importance. so we are trying to do that,
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monday, _ so we are trying to do that, monday, have that finished monday, have that finished monday night or tuesday, so we can then — monday night or tuesday, so we can then speak to the city councit _ translation: jewish people don't feel safe any more in amsterdam. this is happening under your responsibility. my relevant question would be, when are you resigning? translation: i am a mayor of a bil translation: i am a mayor of a big international city and i do that— big international city and i do that bite _ big international city and i do that bite mandates from the amsterdam city council. in this bil amsterdam city council. in this big international city we know international tensions, demonstrations, and it also leads— demonstrations, and it also leads to _ demonstrations, and it also leads to major tensions, and it may— leads to major tensions, and it may also— leads to major tensions, and it may also lead to emotions of
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