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favourably from the biden administration. russia and ukraine have carried out their biggest drone attacks against each other since the start of the war. kyiv says it shot down or disabled most of the 145 drones launched against the country. russia says 3a ukrainian drones were destroyed on the southern approaches to moscow. king charles has led the nation in two minutes of silence in remembrance of men and women who lost their lives serving in the two world wars or other conflicts. tens of thousands of veterans and civiliansjoined the king in paying their respects to the fallen at the cenotaph. now on bbc news, americast. hello, americasters. it's about 7pm on the east coast in america, i'm in windy florida, in the americast pop—up podcast studio. i came down here today to keep an eye on what might be
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happening in trumpland, but in fact, as it turns out, the news all came from harrisland as she gave a speech earlier today. while i concede this election, i do not concede the fight that fuelled this campaign. cheering welcome to americast. hello, it's sarah. i'm now in west palm beach, in florida, not very far away from mar—a—lago, donald trump's renowned residence. and it'sjustin in the temporary worldwide headquarters of americast, in the basement of the washington, dc office. and it's anthony here with justin in this windowless basement office, decorated with a few bobble heads and american flags, makes it feel homey. and it is marianna, also in... perhaps it's the windowless - world headquarters, or whatever we're going to call it now. worldwide headquarters, in dc.
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world windowless headquarters. but it's progress anyway, because we're all together. although, sarah, you've deserted us. and you deserted us, actually, just after we did the last episode. so, you've got to florida, which is good news. now, of course, i came to west palm beach in the hope of catching a glimpse of donald trump. kamala harris came out and gave her concession speech. she spoke to him on the phone. let's turn to a question to kick us off. "good afternoon, team." peter hudd says. is it afternoon? i literally don't know what time it is. it feels like the afternoon but it's actually— the evening for us. ok, it's our evening, your middle of the night. anyway, thanks, peter, for that. "i hope you are well," he says, "after a gruelling and a busy few months." that's very nice of you. "an idea for you — why not write a list of everything "donald trump has promised in the last couple of months then, "in two years' time, compare to how things are now?" peter's point being, anthony, that donald trump doesn't always do the things he has promised to do. he does some of them. he promised to do a muslim ban when he was elected in 2016 and he tried to do something
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along those lines. he tried to spend more on border security, although that was thwarted as well. i think it will be interesting because, this time around, donald trump does have a much more explicit agenda and it wasn't just project 2025, which was this independent book full of policy proposals that donald trump renounced, but his campaign and donald trump himself talked about mass deportations, millions of undocumented americans, undocumented migrants living in america, being sent out of the country. talked about tariffs, a broad—base, baseline tariffs on all imports and ones specifically targeting certain imports from mexico and china. but even tariffs on allies. he has talked about a variety of different tax policies and tax cuts and tax credits and tax deductions for things like tips, earnings from tips, social security — which is the elderly pension benefits that all americans of a certain age get. a tax credit for the interest on car loans for used cars,
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a tax deduction for state and local taxes. this is all stuff that he might be able to get through. it'll be interesting to see, though, what his first step is. because last time, his first step really was trying to repeal the affordable care act, the health care reform that obama instituted. that ran into a brick wall. now maybe he's going to move forward with immigration, maybe it's trade. i think we should keep track of it, i think it's a good idea. thank you, peter. yeah, i mean, trump told us many, many times in his campaign speeches that, on day one, he would close the border and he would drill, baby, drill — by which he means open up lots more domestic oil production in the united states. but i wonder if peter's point as well is that he also said lots of other things that he maybe didn't mean to be policy platforms. that was one of things that was always interesting about listening to donald trump's speeches — when was he just saying stuff
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and when was he announcing policy initiatives? so, when he said that he wanted to make childcare free but then never explained how he was going to pay for it. he hinted that he was going to make ivf available free for anybody wanted it, but i don't think he really meant that. he mused onjoe rogan�*s podcast about abolishing income tax, because you could replace all of the money that you took in from income tax with high tariffs on imported goods. there was things he threw out there which he probably didn't mean and then there's probably some stuff in a grey area that he might want to get done but he can't, or he maybe changes his mind about. it's a very fluid manifesto, i think, that we got from donald trump over the course of the last year. yeah, i've just been talking to a conservative republican congressman who kind of rows back a bit on all of that. so he says, on this business of having a tariff on everything imported into america, including things that aren't made or grown here — in other words, stuff that is at the moment a certain price would suddenly have that tariff added to it.
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it would plainly be inflationary. are they seriously going to do that? and what they say is, well, no, it's a kind of negotiating position and ultimately, we'll do deals. it's really for countries that oppose us rather than our friends, because at the moment, it's for all countries, including the uk, and it would have a considerable impact on people who export into the united states. and the congressman was sort of suggesting to me that, actually, when it comes to it, it won't be like that, we won't quite do that. and the other thing that's really interesting about, that maybe won't happen, is i put to him this idea that you round up everyone who is in america illegally — it could be 11 million people, it could be 12 million — i mean, it's huge, you're talking about camps full of people to be deported, families, some children left here because they have the right to be here because they were born here — absolute chaos. and he was really, really pulling back from that. saying, look, it's a few criminals. we've got some gangs here, we'll send them back, and that was it. logistically, itjust is an enormous task. so, is that like the muslim
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ban, which he actually tried to enact early on, or is it like the wall along the entirety of the us/mexico border, which everyone said was impractical, you're not going to build a 2000—mile wall along the us/mexico border, a donald trump never really tried to do that. he built some walls, but not all of it. so is it more one of those that's meant to show he's taking the issue seriously but not meant to be literally applied? another thing that he's talked about is remaking the federal bureaucracy, and that was something he tried to do towards the end of his administration, where there are these career government employees who are career civil service folks — he wanted to change the way they're categorised to replace them with political appointments. he began instituting this policy and then, whenjoe biden won, he reversed it. i think we will see within the first few days, him reinstating that and filling these bureaucratic spots, the agencies, the ones who sometimes block
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donald trump's more ambitious changes to federal policy, replacing those folks with people who are loyalist, people who have been picked by the groups around trump, have been vetted already, thousands of people, and start filling them in and injecting them into the government workforce, because they are going to be the foot soldiers in what could be a trump revolution, the same way we had a reagan revolution back in the 1980s, really fundamentally changing the way government operates. when i woke back up this i morning after not very much sleep, i spent some timel with my undercover voters to see what they were seeing. were they in bed with you? they were charging. x—rated! they were charging? putting the undercover in undercover voter. anthony! that was good. so, i was looking... it's tickled sarah! i was looking at my - left—leaning undercover voters feed in particular, progressive left emma, | and the thing that was popping up repeatedly was this - conversation about abortion and what's going to happen| there and what has donald trump
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said he will do or won't do. - lots of videos from people - who are really upset and really worried, particularly young women, saying, hang - on a second, what does all of this mean? - and you think of some | of the promises he has made on that front — - there was that female voters fox town hall that he gave about three weeks ago, i where he said there's not i going to be an abortion ban. he also made these comments about ivf for free, _ where he said, "i'm the father of ivf." i went quite viral, - people questioning what that actually meant. but you wonder whether one of the reasons that we've - ended up at this point _ is because perhaps some people didn't believe that he'd go - through with some of the stuff that the democrats were warning he might do on abortion, - which perhaps could have motivated even more - of that vote to come out? i don't know. sarah, if he has the house and the senate and they come up with a bill, conservative republicans come up with a bill that bans abortion or limits it hugely for the whole
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of the united states, the question then is whether he signs it, isn't it? no, the question then is whether he can get it through the senate, and he's not going to have 60 senators. this is what the great misnomer about abortion has been throughout the whole of this election campaign. there was no need to worry about trump bringing in a national abortion ban because he would never have the votes in congress to do it. and he himself said that numerous times, actually, in debates and other forums. he was saying, why are we even talking about this? because it would never pass the house. well, unless they get rid of the filibuster. well, yes, they could, they could. but the converse of that was that kamala harris was never going to be able to do anything to protect abortion rights because she was never going to have the votes in the senate to be able to do that either. we have a democratic president at the moment who was really upset when roe v wade was overturned and has been unable to do anything to restore abortion rights or protect abortion rights in the states that have restricted it very heavily. kamala harris was going to be every bit as powerless
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asjoe biden was to reverse any of the abortion bans that had been introduced. the only way you can make a difference to abortion laws is with the little state referendums that have been happening over the last few years. several of them, of course, in this election as well, were mostly... pro—abortion right amendments were passed, not in florida, but in lots of other states, but this whole argument about whether abortion would be more restricted under donald trump orfreer under kamala harris has been a mirage. it's not been true. well, what you could see happen with donald trump being president is restrictions that he does through executive action, limiting, for instance, the abortion pill and access to the abortion pill, whether through the mail or in states where they don't have legal abortion right now. you could also see him use the power of the fda to make the abortion pilljust harder to get, full stop. that you have to have a doctor's prescription and an in—doctor visit. this was a supreme court case that the supreme court ended up knocking down
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earlier this year. but that was because they said the lawsuit against it that was challenging the biden administration policies didn't have standing. it didn't have the right to bring that lawsuit. if the trump administration comes in and they dot all their is and cross all their ts and change that policy, you could see it much harder to have access to the abortion pill, not only in states that have abortion bans, but also abortion bans, but also in states where in states where it is very legal. it is very legal. and if we're speaking and if we're speaking about health, it feels about health, it feels like an opportune moment like an opportune moment to bring up robert f kennedyjr to bring up robert f kennedyjr and some of the promises that and some of the promises that have been made or haven't been have been made or haven't been made about the role that he made about the role that he could play in what's unfolding. could play in what's unfolding. and he's an interesting and he's an interesting character. character. we've spoken about him a lot we've spoken about him a lot on americast at various points, on americast at various points, particularly because, particularly because, i mean, he's often i mean, he's often characterised as an anti—vaxxer. characterised as an anti—vaxxer. i think maybe the correct way i think maybe the correct way of talking about him would be of talking about him would be to say he's a vaccine sceptic to say he's a vaccine sceptic who often is asking questions who often is asking questions about big pharmaceutical about big pharmaceutical companies and has flirted with, companies and has flirted with, for want of a better word, for want of a better word, or sort of engaged with some or sort of engaged with some of the more extreme of the more extreme anti—vax activists online. anti—vax activists online.
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um, and there's some more um, and there's some more outlandish stuff that trump outlandish stuff that trump has sort of promised. so we've got that. we spoke a bit about elon musk and, oh, is he going to be this, er, department for efficiency, government efficiency, that sort of thing? and then also, also, thatjoe rogan on the joe rogan podcast, trump said that he'd release the jfk files. is it going to happen?
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will be deeply upsetting j to people, and will have a real impact on lives. but it's quite a big if, isn't it? - yeah. i guess it's how much that donald trump feels he owes rfk jr, and how much freedom he wants to give him to do things like regulate processed foods. you know, ban gummies is one of the things he's talking about. or get rid of fluoride in water, which is another thing rfkjr has been very vocal about wanting to do, or having warning labels on vaccines. it is kind of funny that donald trump talks about all this deregulation and not having government dictate what you can and can't do, but then he might be bringing into the tent someone who wants to use the strong arm of government to crack down on corporate power and corporate agriculture and big food. and so it will be... you know, that is something that really we're going to have to keep an eye on because, you know, it is up to
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donald trump how much power he wants to give him, and he might decide that, let him have free rein, because it's not something donald trump really cares about. it's quite interesting, sarah, isn't it? - when it came to rfk - and what his role will be, all the talk about what that j role will be has come so far from the man himself. in other words, rfk, i not the guy in charge. well, the guy in charge said he was going to put rfkjr in charge of women's health. he didn't specify what's different about women's health or exactly what he would be doing. but of course, he's also made very clear that whilst he's welcoming him into the administration and saying he can have some kind of health role, that he's to stay very, very far away from energy policy, because of course, the other thing that rfkjr is famous for is he's actually, you know, a long—term environmental activist who is completely opposed to donald trump dismantling all sorts of climate change legislation and opening up all this new oil production. so he's been told to stay away from that. "don't touch the liquid gold," he's been told, "but you can get the fluoride out of the water." there is a kind of wider thing
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here that we're touching - on that i think is really- interesting about the trump administration, which is, | when it comes to the role of the state, and regulation that anthony mentions - and all the rest of it, but also, this kind i of thing that conservative - americans have long wrestled with and thought about — what is a good society? i what should an ethical| good society look like? what is the relationship - of an individual to the state? you've got, on the one hand, a lot of interventionists, - actually, in the trump team, potentiallv _ one of the things is i banning pornography — which we've talked about before - isn't it? — you talk about it all the time! you're always mentioning that! cos i think of donald trump and i think about his- supporters and the ones that i've met, and ijust think, . on their great list of things that they'd like to do, - that probably isn't very near the top. j and those sorts of tensions, actually, will become, - once he gets into office i and has to pick the people for the various roles, much more obvious. |
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yeah, the republican party used to be the party of small government and low government spending, and a government that leaves you alone. and that's not donald trump's republican party. i mean, there are places where donald trump really wants an aggressive, dictating federal government on things like...you know, talking about tech companies and social media companies. he wanted them to elbow their way in, the government to elbow their way in and regulate. right, marianna? yeah. and it's really interesting because, actually, i know i've spoken about this probably way too much over the past few episodes now, but the relationship between elon musk and donald trump and to what extent is it beneficial to some of those big tech bosses to feel like they're on the right side of donald trump? and will that benefit them in terms of... you know, there was a lot of criticism from donald trump about perceived censorship within the social media companies and that they were taking posts down and so on. but there's also been a shift, actually, i'd say, in global attitudes towards the social media companies, particularly when it comes to harm to kids, and lots of parents who've been
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really vocal about the harm caused to kids. and donald trump might find himself in quite an interesting position in the kind of global sphere, because there's generally been a bit of a shift towards, right, we probably need to do something to, for example, better protect kids from social media, but that might be slightly at odds with some of the tech bros we're talking about. that might make them a little bit less rich. one thing he is going to do, sarah, is end all wars. - yes, well, somehow or other, because of course he said that... initially, he said he could end the war between ukraine and russia within 2a hours. and then more recently, he said he'll get it done before he even takes office as president—elect, he's going to finish that war. i will have that war finished and done and settled before i get to the white house as president—elect. i will get that done. he's never specified how. the speculation, of course, is that he would pressure president zelensky into giving up territory, possibly most or all of the territory that russia currently occupies in ukraine. what's going to be really interesting, of course, in the meantime, especially if he's going to delve into that diplomatically before
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he's even president, there's almost three months left of the biden administration, who have given billions and billions of dollars and equipment and weapons to ukraine to help them in theirfight against russia. do they surge everything they possibly can into ukraine, give kyiv everything that they have been asking for, knowing that this is probably the last chance, that donald trump will end the funding for ukraine's defence, however he tries to sort out the war, so could it be that, finally, zelensky will get what he's been wanting? because this is the last chance that democrats have got to give it to him. another thing that's been popping up a lot on social media, including on the undercover voters feeds, has been the war in the middle east, and particularly concerns from people across the political spectrum, but people who are very distressed by the images and videos they've been seeing coming out of gaza in particular. and before the election, i spent some time with some students in new york who had been targeted with hate and doxxing, who had found themselves kind of going deeper and deeper into their own
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echo chambers online, and ended up deciding, actually, they didn't want to vote for the democrats. one decided to vote third party. the other felt inclined the other felt inclined to vote for donald trump. to vote for donald trump. and i think that's interesting. and i think that's interesting. like, where do these like, where do these people sit now? people sit now? because, you know, is it because, you know, is it that the kind of... that the kind of... i kind of wonder whether some i kind of wonder whether some people that voted for a third people that voted for a third party thought...believed this party thought...believed this promise of donald trump, promise of donald trump, that he will actually stop that he will actually stop the wars, or is he going to go the wars, or is he going to go in a direction that is actually in a direction that is actually even further away from even further away from what they would have wanted, what they would have wanted, and they might think, and they might think, "i wish i hadn't voted "i wish i hadn't voted for the third party candidate." for the third party candidate." i met quite a few young i met quite a few young arab—americans in michigan supportive of what israel arab—americans in michigan to talk about exactly this, to talk about exactly this, one of whom was really, really, one of whom was really, really, um, encouraging people um, encouraging people to vote for donald trump. to vote for donald trump. a registered democrat, previous a registered democrat, previous bernie sanders supporter, bernie sanders supporter, said she was voting for trump, said she was voting for trump, and she was endorsing and she was endorsing him and encouraging him and encouraging other people to do it. other people to do it. and she's an intelligent, and she's an intelligent, well—informed woman. well—informed woman. we had a discussion about this, we had a discussion about this, and she seemed perfectly and she seemed perfectly well aware, actually, well aware, actually, that donald trump would that donald trump would probably be even more probably be even more
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supportive of what israel is doing than the current administration is. she just thought there was so much hypocrisy in democrats supplying all the lethal weaponry
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they've moved the us embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem, took all of these steps to support the israelis. i think we're going to see more of that now. maybe there was a case where, if this entire election came down to michigan and all eyes were on michigan today, and those handful, a few hundred thousand arab—american voters who broke for trump and essentially delivered the white house to trump, that donald trump would feel that he owed them something and would remember it, and maybe moderate his views on the gaza war in return for their support. but because this election was so across the board a win for donald trump, and there's no one state or one constituency that i think donald trump feels he owes for this, i don't think that scenario is anywhere close to being realised. they certainly think that - trump's supporters, and i'm talking about the people who might be part of his administration and his political support herel in washington dc, they . genuinely think that a man who is unpredictable - and staunch in his view that america should be great again and should at least threaten .
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to use its power, but with| the hope of never actually using it, that the relationship with iran will change - really profoundly. they think iran has been energised by perceived i weakness in the biden—harris administration, and indeed i in the obama administration. and they think that trump, j because he does the things that he does or speaksl the words that he does, that somehow the iranians will be, in a sense, - put back in their box. we'll see whether that actually happens. - but, i mean, there is a genuine belief that his coming _ to power will change the way in which the dynamics - in the middle east play out. and, well, we will see i now whether it happens. sarah, what are you getting up to over the next few days in florida? i am at the mercy of donald trump. i am here waiting to see what he does next. i think you were right
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when you said it's probably going to involve a round of golf, which we may or may not see him doing, butjust in case he wants to come out and give a speech, some kind of public event, just in case he wants to come on americast, i'm going to hang out here for a couple of days just to see what he's up to next. 0k. that's it. - we've got to go. at least anthony's got to go. he's got other things to do. i i'm sure you do, too, marianna, and i need to go to bed. - actually, no, - ican't go to bed. i've got to present. another programme. you do? 0k. keep getting in touch. we've had so many messages, and we appreciate all of them so, so much. we love reading them. send us a whatsapp... ..is the email for your questions. you can send us a message with the hashtag americast and you can post a comment in discord, the link is in the description. that's it for this episode of americast. if you want to hear more of what we've got to say, it's always available on bbc sounds. see you all later. bye—bye.
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hello. sunday has at last brought some sunshine to many parts of northern ireland, western and central of scotland, but for parts of england and wales, we haven't seen any sunshine at all so far this november. that is all about to change because monday promises much more sunshine across the board. the reason — a weather front sweeping away the low cloud, giving patchy rain and drizzle as it moves through wales, the midlands, into southern england. one or two showers behind but largely clear skies overnight, so it will be a colder night. not too much frost but a frost on the grass first thing on monday morning, possibly low—level fog patches, particularly across scotland and northern ireland, but not exclusively.
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the cloud dragging across the far south of england and the channel islands first thing, then this northerly breeze may bring some showers into east anglia as well as a few further north and west. but it is high pressure and clearer air, plenty sunshine and despite a colder start, the sunshine will compensate with temperatures getting just a little above average. as we then go through the evening and overnight, that high pressure takes its place across our shores once again. the weather fronts rather weak as they move southwards and we may see a little bit of showery rain in across the far southeast of england into tuesday. a bit more cloud as well because we pick up a northeasterly breeze. that said, for most, despite a chillier start, more grass frost around, it will be pleasant in the sunshine, and there will be a good deal of that. we gradually introduce more cloud again on wednesday, this time in the north with showery rain in the south. our window of sunshine is diminishing a little as we move through the week
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with these weak fronts around and early morning frost and patchy fog as well. temperatures starting to dip away away a little and that is because it looks set by the end of the week to get colder. cold air is seeping across most parts of the country but with it, low pressure, so turning wetter and windier and the potential therefore is for some snow over the hills. it is getting colder through to the weekend and into the early part of next week, and more unsettled as well. more on the website.
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live from london — this is bbc news... russia gives its most positive response yet to donald trump's election — saying he shows no desire president biden will urge donald trump not to walk away from ukraine when they meet on
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wednesday. it comes as russia and ukraine exchange the biggest number of drone attacks since the war began. israel's new defence minister says hezbollah has been defeated and the death of its leader was a crowning achievement. and, honoring the fallen — king charles joins other senior royals for events to mark remembrance sunday. hello, i'm lauren taylor. president biden�*s national security adviser has urged donald trump not to walk away from ukraine. jake sullivan said joe biden would use his remaining time in office to make the case that kyiv should be given further support. mr sullivan's comments come as the world waits to see exactly what the new administration's policy on ukraine will be. the washington post is reporting that mr trump spoke on the phone with mr putin on thursday, urging him not to escalate the war. for its part, russia has given its most positive response yet to mr trump's victory. the kremlin spokesman, dmitry peskov, said the us president—elect was showing no desire to inflict
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