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to be convicted tell the bbc they hope more people will report similar sex crimes. and cycling a0 miles fora dumpling? we look at the social media trend that overwhelmed a small tourist city in china. iam lauren i am lauren taylor. no time for all the latest sport. ruben amorim is now officially the manager of manchester united after bidding farewell to the portuguese league. his sporting side came from 2—0 down to beat braga 4—2 in amorim's final game in charge yesterday. he's due to fly in to manchester at some point today, but can't properly begin work until he gets his visa sorted. amorim says interim boss ruud van nistelrooy did a greatjob and he'll be talking to him about his future role with the club when he
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gets to old trafford. india have told the international cricket council they will not cross the border into pakistan to play in the champions trophy next year — according to the hosts. ongoing political tensions mean the two countries have not played each other outside of men's major tournaments since 2013, while india have not played in pakistan for 16 years. meanwhile, india head coach gautam gambhir has hit out at former australia captain ricky ponting ahead of india's trip to australia for the border—gavaskar trophy. ponting has criticised india's virat kohli, who has been out of form in recent times. the australian said that any other player wouldn't have survived in the team had he scored just two what does ponting have to do with indian cricket? i think he should think about australian cricket and, more importantly, i've got no concerns whatsoever
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for virat and rohit. i think they are incredibly tough men. they've achieved a lot for indian cricket and they will continue to achieve a lot in the future, as well. i think, for me, the most important thing is that they still work really hard and they're still passionate, they still want to achieve a lot more and that is something which is very important. the hunger in that dressing room is incredibly important for me and for the entire group of people, as well, in that dressing room. i feel there's a lot of hunger, especially after what has happened in the last series. casper ruud has beaten spain's carlos alcaraz in their first—round match at the atp finals in turin. the norwegian broke alcaraz�*s serve twice in the first set to win it 6—1, before taking the second 7—5. also in action later on day two are alexander zverev and andrey rublev, following american taylor fritz�*s 6—4, 6—3 win over daniil medvedev on day one. home favourite and world number one jannik sinner was also victorious in the first round, overcoming australia's alex de minaur in straight sets. i feel like every match, it is very difficult
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to play against him, he is a great fighter, you have to earn every point you play, but i still feel like that, you know, that every time we play against, he changes a couple of things, so i have to be very aware, you know, so it is very difficult. the denver nuggets extended their winning streak to five straight games by beating the dallas mavericks. the game went down to the wire, but a brilliant, history—making performance from nikola jokic secured the win for denver 122—120. the three—time mvp made his case for another one — with a dominant line of 37 points, 18 rebounds, and 15 assists, numbers no other player has achieved in nba history. from nikola jokic to nikola jovic, who came off the bench to score the winning points for the miami heat as they beat the minnesota timberwolves 95—94. his foul shot with under eight seconds to play was the difference for miami, who raise their record to 4—5.
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and that's all your sport for now. a climate report released on the first day of the cop29 summit in azerbaijan has warned that this year is likely to be the hottest on record. the un's world meteorological organisation has issued a red alert over climate change. so what could cop29 actually achieve? our climate editor, justin rowlatt, explains. cop29 is definitely the most important event of this year. this climate conference is the most significant international meeting azerbaijan has ever hosted, and the country has not skimped on the preparations. but some things you can't control. my plan will terminate the green new deal, which i call the green new scam. greatest scam in history probably. # it's fun to stay at the ymca! _ like when the biggest economy in the world elects a climate sceptic.
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last night, workers were putting the finishing touches to the conference venue. mr trump has said he'll pull out of the key part of the un climate talks. the us has sent a delegation here, but any promises they make are likely to be overturned when trump takes office injanuary. and top of the agenda this year is the trickiest topic of all. they are calling this the money cop because the focus is on finance. negotiators want to agree a new goalfor how much money richer countries should be paying to poorer countries to move away from fossil fuels and also adapt their countries to climate change. at the moment, it's $100 billion a year. the hope is it will be hundreds of billions of dollars a year. developing countries would like it to be more than $1 trillion. i can give you some of the statistics. activists involved in the talks say they don't think the summit will be derailed. it takes collective response. if we're going to be able to
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hold warming to below 1.5, it will take the whole world to come together. geopolitics, the biggest geopolitical challenge the world faces is climate change. if we don't tackle it, we don't have a planet. raising $1 trillion a year was always going to be a tall order, but with the us set to pull out of the game, it will be even harder. and that could have an impact on climate action for years to come, because the less money raised, the less likely countries are to dial up their carbon cutting ambitions. justin rowlatt, bbc news, baku. victims of one of the most prolific online child abusers ever to be convicted have said they hope more people will report similar sex crimes. they've spoken in a new bbc documentary series about alexander mccartney, who lived near newry in northern ireland. he posed as a teenage girl online to trick children
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into sending him explicit photos of themselves, then blackmailed them into carrying out sexual acts. this report from our ireland correspondent chris page, and a warning — you may find some of the content distressing. i just felt dirty. tore some of my innocence out. these pictures are blasted all over the internet. i don't want to live in that world. like, that's terrifying. i felt like itjust wasn't going to end. i was curled up against my door in my room, crying. alexander mccartney was a relentless and remorseless abuser. police think he targeted 3,500 children. one of them was the girl whose picture mccartney used in his fake identity online. he used my photos to catfish other girls and it does make me angry. i think doing this will help me a lot to feel closure. just feeling like i'm wrapping up, like, this chapter of my life.
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the victims who speak in the documentary were around the same age when mccartney contacted them. we're protecting their identities, and they've chosen to tell their stories with their real voices. ivy was in new zealand. at 12, i was very much like a nerd. it was hard making friends. ijust rememberfeeling weirded out, but kind of flooded at the same time. a girl is interested in me! it was exciting. she sent images first. she recounts that when she sent mccartney an explicit picture of herself, he turned on her. "i will send these to your friends and family. "it's going to be everywhere unless you send me more." i was just confused and scared. another of mccartney's victims took her own life. he was convicted of causing the death of 12—year—old simran thomas from west virginia.
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alexander mccartney, 2/4/1998. the film shows mccartney's police interviews for the first time. what's a catfish? no comment. come on, alex, you know what a catfish is? no comment. at the moment, we have 266 victims. there's six in australia, two in belgium, 12 in canada, one in colombia, croatia, denmark, germany, italy, latvia, lithuania, mexico, netherlands, new zealand, norway, poland, slovakia, spain, sweden, and 214 in the usa. those figures increased substantially. detectives discovered a massive number of pictures, known as first generation images, which were of new victims. i had never seen a folder structure such as this. it's vast. the first download shows me the largest number of first generation images to be captured on a device, certainly within the uk, potentially worldwide.
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the scale and horror of mccartney's crimes led a victim to question if catfishing was too light a word to describe them. to me, being catfished is like you're on a tinder profile and your pictures look different than what you look like in real life. like, that is not this. people have lost their lives over this. i reported him and he got caught. speak out, because you truly never know the magnitude of the situation you're dealing with. those who've taken part in the programme hope it will encourage more people to report abuse and be aware of this type of danger on the internet. chris page, bbc news. live to the post office inquiry where the head of fujitsu is
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making a second appearance after telling the room that the maker of the faulty horizon software clearly let society down. he is being questioned by julian blake, council to the inquiry. julian blake, councilto the inuui . �* , . ., , inquiry. as i reflect on my previous _ inquiry. as i reflect on my previous evidence - inquiry. as i reflect on my previous evidence as - inquiry. as i reflect on my| previous evidence as well, inquiry. as i reflect on my - previous evidence as well, the prosecutor really support clauses in the contract meant that we put too much focus on the clauses in the contract, rather than on the impacts on the sub—postmasters. i think there was a second topic for me, which is about the support of our employees when they flagged up concerns, and the third issue was around the industrialisation of witness statements, which we think is completely inappropriate. page 27, completely inappropriate. page 27. paragraph _ completely inappropriate. page 27. paragraph 72. _ completely inappropriate. page 27, paragraph 72, you - completely inappropriate. page 27, paragraph 72, you have said that— 27, paragraph 72, you have said that there — 27, paragraph 72, you have said that there is still substantial work— that there is still substantial work to— that there is still substantial work to be done. is it your view— work to be done. is it your view that— work to be done. is it your view that the failings insofar as fujitsu are concerned were
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substantial?— substantial? well, the three examples — substantial? well, the three examples i _ substantial? well, the three examples i have _ substantial? well, the three examples i have just - substantial? well, the three examples i have just given l substantial? well, the three . examples i have just given you, i think they are substantial, and they resulted, they contributed to a miscarriage of justice on an enormous scale, so yes, i think they were substantive. i so yes, i think they were substantive.— substantive. i will not be coin: substantive. i will not be going into _ substantive. i will not be going into the _ substantive. i will not be going into the detailed i going into the detailed evidence, we will not be looking at the who, what, when, where, _ looking at the who, what, when, where, how, but it is important to understand the fujitsu corporate position on what it accepts _ corporate position on what it accepts i _ corporate position on what it accepts. ijust want to see, in respect — accepts. ijust want to see, in respect of— accepts. ijust want to see, in respect of three propositions, the first— respect of three propositions, the first is, does fujitsu accept _ the first is, does fujitsu accept that it provided a witness or witnesses in criminal— witness or witnesses in criminal proceedings who provided evidence that was, at a minimum, incomplete, or otherwise— a minimum, incomplete, or otherwise should not have been relied _ otherwise should not have been relied upon? 50 otherwise should not have been relied upon?— relied upon? so i am not a lawyer. — relied upon? so i am not a lawyer. mr— relied upon? so i am not a lawyer, mr blake, - relied upon? so i am not a lawyer, mr blake, so - relied upon? so i am not a lawyer, mr blake, so my. relied upon? so i am not a - lawyer, mr blake, so my reading of the evidence and what was submitted, i think they were exactly as you described. thank
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ou. exactly as you described. thank yom second _ exactly as you described. thank you. second of— exactly as you described. thank you. second of all, _ exactly as you described. thank you. second of all, does - you. second of all, does fu'itsu you. second of all, does fujitsu accept _ you. second of all, does fujitsu accept that - you. second of all, does fujitsu accept that it - you. second of all, does - fujitsu accept that it provided audit data that was, at certain points, also unreliable?- points, also unreliable? yes. third, points, also unreliable? yes. third. does— points, also unreliable? yes. third, does fujitsu _ points, also unreliable? yes. third, does fujitsu accept - points, also unreliable? yes. | third, does fujitsu accept that there have been occasions in there have been occasions in the context of enforcement action against sub—postmasters where information that was provided by fujitsu was unreliable, inaccurate or otherwise incomplete? i don't know about — otherwise incomplete? i don't know about all _ otherwise incomplete? i don't know about all the _ otherwise incomplete? i don't know about all the cases, - otherwise incomplete? i don't know about all the cases, i'm| know about all the cases, i'm not familiar with all the cases and where witness statements were _ and where witness statements were given, but i think there isa— were given, but i think there is a general theme which is that— is a general theme which is that they were, and i seem to recall— that they were, and i seem to recall in— that they were, and i seem to recall in evidence, witness statements being edited and adjusted by post office lawyers, so i think there was a number— lawyers, so i think there was a number of— lawyers, so i think there was a number of those areas where they— number of those areas where they were inaccurate, incomplete, yes. thank you. movin: incomplete, yes. thank you. moving on. _ incomplete, yes. thank you. moving on, then, _ incomplete, yes. thank you. moving on, then, to - incomplete, yes. thank you. moving on, then, to the - incomplete, yes. thank you. i moving on, then, to the current position and current operation
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of horizon, can we bring up the expert report from yougov? maybe it is 707, thank you very much. can we please turn to page 17? as you are aware, this report is based on responses from approaching 1000 current sub—postmasters. have you read this report? sub-postmasters. have you read this report?— this report? yes, i have. looking _ this report? yes, i have. looking at _ this report? yes, i have. looking at page - this report? yes, i have. looking at page 17, - this report? yes, i have. looking at page 17, we i this report? yes, i have. i looking at page 17, we saw this report? yes, i have. - looking at page 17, we saw that the net dissatisfaction in respect of how horizon currently operates as a clear majority of those, as between those dissatisfied and though satisfied, 49% net dissatisfied. if we could turn the page please, thank you, it says that the vast majority, it says that the vast majority, it says 92% of sub—postmasters surveyed reported experiencing
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some form of issues with the horizon it system in the last 12 months. it gives an example, if we scroll down, an open—ended comment, in my opinion, horizon is still flawed, i regularly have unexplained discrepancy, often all—terrain daily balance. if we scroll over the page, we have the issues experienced within the last 12 months, unexplained discrepancy is, 57% of those who responded said that they had experienced unexplained discrepancy is with horizon in the past 12 months, we had unexplained transactions, 19%, missing transactions, 19%, missing transactions, 1a%, double entries, 10%. do you have any reason to doubt those figures or experiences of the sub—postmasters? or experiences of the sub-postmasters? or experiences of the sub- ostmasters? ~ ., ., ~' or experiences of the sub- ostmasters? ~ ., ., ~ ., sub-postmasters? when i look at this report. _ sub-postmasters? when i look at this report, and _ sub-postmasters? when i look at this report, and i _ sub-postmasters? when i look at this report, and i had _ sub-postmasters? when i look at
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this report, and i had my- sub-postmasters? when i look at this report, and i had my team i this report, and i had my team try and — this report, and i had my team try and decode it, my concern is the — try and decode it, my concern is the term _ try and decode it, my concern is the term horizon is being used — is the term horizon is being used to— is the term horizon is being used to cover everything inside the post — used to cover everything inside the post office's complete supply— the post office's complete supply chain. so if you are a sub—postmaster, this is exactly the view— sub—postmaster, this is exactly the view you get, because you will look— the view you get, because you will look on your screen and these — will look on your screen and these are _ will look on your screen and these are some of the problems or discrepancies or issues that they— or discrepancies or issues that they are — or discrepancies or issues that they are experiencing, so it is absolutely correct from their experience. but screen freezes could _ experience. but screen freezes could he — experience. but screen freezes could be caused by multiple things. _ could be caused by multiple things, the post office has its network— things, the post office has its network provided by a third party, _ network provided by a third party, issues with pin pads have — party, issues with pin pads have nothing to do with the horizon— have nothing to do with the horizon system, they are provided for and maintained by another— provided for and maintained by another organisation. when i listened _ another organisation. when i listened to melanie parkes, i think. — listened to melanie parkes, i think, her evidence around discrepancies, and innocent, in some _ discrepancies, and innocent, in some cases, innocent double keying — some cases, innocent double keying or— some cases, innocent double keying or whatever, all of that told me — keying or whatever, all of that told me that these things need told me that these things need
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to he _ told me that these things need to be properly investigated, not to — to be properly investigated, not to rely on a very narrow definition— not to rely on a very narrow definition of horizon or very narrow— definition of horizon or very narrow definition of worry problem would be. to think that the system is provided by fujitsu _ the system is provided by fujitsu could be to be in some part _ fujitsu could be to be in some .a i , ., ., ., , part explaining for those discrepancies? - part explaining for those discrepancies? fujitsu i part explaining for those i discrepancies? fujitsu has part explaining for those - discrepancies? fujitsu has been discrepancies? fu'itsu has been clear all the _ discrepancies? fu'itsu has been clear all the way — discrepancies? fujitsu has been clear all the way along, - discrepancies? fujitsu has been clear all the way along, there i clear all the way along, there continues— clear all the way along, there continues to be bugs, errors and — continues to be bugs, errors and defects, there continues to be and defects, there continues to he and — and defects, there continues to he and of— and defects, there continues to be end of life in this application, the horizon application, the horizon application, as was covered in the witness statements earlier today, — the witness statements earlier today, it — the witness statements earlier today, it was meant to be end of life — today, it was meant to be end of life some years ago, and a new— of life some years ago, and a new system was meant to be in place _ new system was meant to be in place so— new system was meant to be in place. so all of those things are correct. it could be awkward not causing those problems, which again which is why problems, which again which is whv i_ problems, which again which is why i made the point a moment ago. _ why i made the point a moment ago. anv— why i made the point a moment ago, any accusation to a sub—postmaster needs to be properly— sub—postmaster needs to be properly investigated, not relying _ properly investigated, not relying on one data point.
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perhaps _ relying on one data point. perhaps we can see your reflections on the end of life situation, correspondence that the inquiry has seen from the 15th of december 2023, two mr brocklesby, relating to the extension of the contract. i willjust read to you a few passages, paragraph one there, if we scroll down one, the risks associated with the continued provision of the horizon system, including the audit archive, on an end—of—life it architecture, the post office has been strategically focused on alternative solutions to horizon, ratherthan alternative solutions to horizon, rather than investing in the infrastructure. due to the age and status of the infrastructure, there is an increasing risk of failure of the infrastructure that could result in adverse impact on the
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delivery of services to the public. it is that one of the points that you were making, that as time goes on, the end—of—life status means there is an increasing risk of failure?— is an increasing risk of failure? , ., ., ., , failure? there is an enormous increase in — failure? there is an enormous increase in risk _ failure? there is an enormous increase in risk the _ failure? there is an enormous increase in risk the post - increase in risk the post office _ increase in risk the post office have rightly been focused on the other suppliers in building their new system, and horizon application was meant _ and horizon application was meant to have been retired, so they— meant to have been retired, so they put— meant to have been retired, so they put their efforts and focus _ they put their efforts and focus, understandably, into the new world, and not into the old world _ new world, and not into the old world to— new world, and not into the old world. to give this some context. _ world. to give this some context, we have not turned off some _ context, we have not turned off some of— context, we have not turned off some of this equipment because it is so— some of this equipment because it is so old _ some of this equipment because it is so old-— it is so old. another challenge to the feasibility _ it is so old. another challenge to the feasibility and - it is so old. another challenge to the feasibility and continue | to the feasibility and continue delivery of the horizon system, number two, delivery of the horizon system, numbertwo, is delivery of the horizon system, number two, is the technical complexity and risk associated with updating infrastructure at various states of obsolescence and compatibility, and to delivering new system requirements, including because of lessons learned and commitments to end—users,
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activities that are increasingly risky and technically challenging because of the end of life noted in paragraph one. so those are the challenges in respect of making changes to the horizon system going forward. changes to the horizon system going forward-— going forward. yes. and as i mentioned _ going forward. yes. and as i mentioned a _ going forward. yes. and as i mentioned a moment - going forward. yes. and as i mentioned a moment ago, i going forward. yes. and as i i mentioned a moment ago, the horizon — mentioned a moment ago, the horizon application is one of many— horizon application is one of many applications which are all interconnected inside the post office — interconnected inside the post office supply chain. when you change — office supply chain. when you change one part, you need to make — change one part, you need to make sure _ change one part, you need to make sure that it connects with all the — make sure that it connects with all the other systems that the post — all the other systems that the post office uses directly and with — post office uses directly and with other third parties. when something is this old and you make — something is this old and you make that change, it has consequential impact on all of those — consequential impact on all of those other systems, which you need _ those other systems, which you need to— those other systems, which you need to he _ those other systems, which you need to be super careful about. we 1528 00
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