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max and mason have you, cheers. max and mason have known each _ you, cheers. max and mason have known each other— you, cheers. max and mason have known each other since _ you, cheers. max and mason have known each other since nursery i known each other since nursery schooh — known each other since nursery school. they've always been in the same — school. they've always been in the same classes and we often ioked — the same classes and we often ioked it— the same classes and we often joked it was there friendship that— joked it was there friendship that brought out the best in each — that brought out the best in each other. two families go home — each other. two families go home without their boys but now we could — home without their boys but now we could begin to process that and rememberthe happy moments that their— and rememberthe happy moments that their families have of max and mason. i need to think anyone _ and mason. i need to think anyone who has been involved in our case, — anyone who has been involved in our case, i— anyone who has been involved in our case, i have so much respect _ our case, i have so much respect that the hard work dedication and support to our families _ dedication and support to our families. there are no words to express— families. there are no words to express i— families. there are no words to express i think i am to everyone and i will be forever gratefut _ everyone and i will be forever grateful. i wish we didn't have to he — grateful. i wish we didn't have to be here _ grateful. i wish we didn't have to be here today but we got some — to be here today but we got some sort ofjustice for our boys — some sort ofjustice for our boys to— some sort ofjustice for our boys to thank you everybody, thank — boys to thank you everybody, thank you. boys to thank you everybody, thank vow— boys to thank you everybody, thank yon-— boys to thank you everybody, thank ou. . . thank you. good afternoon. i am a deu thank you. good afternoon. i am a deputy prosecutor— thank you. good afternoon. i am a deputy prosecutor with - thank you. good afternoon. i am a deputy prosecutor with the - a deputy prosecutor with the cps south—west. _
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a deputy prosecutor with the cps south—west. the - a deputy prosecutor with the cps south—west. the deaths| a deputy prosecutor with the . cps south—west. the deaths of max _ cps south—west. the deaths of max and — cps south—west. the deaths of max and mason _ cps south—west. the deaths of max and mason caused - cps south—west. the deaths of max and mason caused her- max and mason caused her throughout— max and mason caused her throughout the _ max and mason caused her throughout the city. - max and mason caused her throughout the city. the i max and mason caused her- throughout the city. the crown prosecution— throughout the city. the crown prosecution service _ throughout the city. the crown prosecution service worked - prosecution service worked closely _ prosecution service worked closely with _ prosecution service worked closely with our _ prosecution service worked closely with our colleagues| prosecution service worked l closely with our colleagues in the major— closely with our colleagues in the major crime _ closely with our colleagues in the major crime investigationj the major crime investigation team — the major crime investigation team to _ the major crime investigation team to build _ the major crime investigation team to build our— the major crime investigation team to build our case. - the major crime investigation team to build our case. thati team to build our case. that case — team to build our case. that case was _ team to build our case. that case was that _ team to build our case. that case was that all— team to build our case. that case was that all of- team to build our case. that case was that all of five - case was that all of five defendants _ case was that all of five defendants had - case was that all of five defendants had been i case was that all of five - defendants had been working together— defendants had been working together and _ defendants had been working together and shared - defendants had been working together and shared joint- together and shared joint responsibility— together and shared joint responsibility for- together and shared joint responsibility for the - together and shared joint- responsibility for the murders of both— responsibility for the murders of both max _ responsibility for the murders of both max and _ responsibility for the murders of both max and mason. - responsibility for the murders of both max and mason. thel responsibility for the murders - of both max and mason. the four youths _ of both max and mason. the four youths armed _ of both max and mason. the four youths armed themselves - of both max and mason. the four youths armed themselves and i youths armed themselves and went— youths armed themselves and went hunting _ youths armed themselves and went hunting to _ youths armed themselves and went hunting to people - youths armed themselves and went hunting to people to - went hunting to people to attack _ went hunting to people to attack. when _ went hunting to people to attack. when they - went hunting to people to attack. when they came l went hunting to people to - attack. when they came across max _ attack. when they came across max and — attack. when they came across max and mason _ attack. when they came across max and mason they _ attack. when they came across max and mason they launched i attack. when they came acrossi max and mason they launched a brutat— max and mason they launched a hrutatioint _ max and mason they launched a brutaljoint attack— max and mason they launched a brutal joint attack that - max and mason they launched a brutal joint attack that left - brutaljoint attack that left both — brutaljoint attack that left both boys _ brutaljoint attack that left both boys fatally - brutaljoint attack that left both boys fatally injured. i brutal joint attack that left - both boys fatally injured. when anthony — both boys fatally injured. when anthony snook— both boys fatally injured. when anthony snook drove _ both boys fatally injured. when anthony snook drove the - both boys fatally injured. when anthony snook drove the boysi anthony snook drove the boys that night— anthony snook drove the boys that night he _ anthony snook drove the boys that night he was— anthony snook drove the boys that night he was aware - anthony snook drove the boys that night he was aware they i that night he was aware they were — that night he was aware they were heavily— that night he was aware they were heavily armed - that night he was aware they were heavily armed and - that night he was aware they i were heavily armed and looking for revenge _ were heavily armed and looking for revenge. there _ were heavily armed and looking for revenge. there could - were heavily armed and looking for revenge. there could have i for revenge. there could have been — for revenge. there could have been no — for revenge. there could have been no doubt _ for revenge. there could have been no doubt in _ for revenge. there could have been no doubt in his- for revenge. there could have been no doubt in his mind - for revenge. there could have been no doubt in his mind asi for revenge. there could have i been no doubt in his mind as to what _ been no doubt in his mind as to what they— been no doubt in his mind as to what they intended _ been no doubt in his mind as to what they intended to - been no doubt in his mind as to what they intended to do. - what they intended to do. today's _ what they intended to do. today's verdicts _ what they intended to do. today's verdicts serve - what they intended to do. today's verdicts serve asi what they intended to do. | today's verdicts serve as a reminder— today's verdicts serve as a reminderthat_ today's verdicts serve as a reminder that carrying - today's verdicts serve as a . reminder that carrying knives and other— reminder that carrying knives and other weapons— reminder that carrying knives and other weapons can - reminder that carrying knives and other weapons can only. reminder that carrying knives . and other weapons can only lead to tragedy~ — and other weapons can only lead to tragedy~ 0ur— and other weapons can only lead to tragedy. our thoughts - and other weapons can only lead to tragedy. our thoughts remainj to tragedy. our thoughts remain with the — to tragedy. our thoughts remain
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with the families _ to tragedy. our thoughts remain with the families of _ to tragedy. our thoughts remain with the families of max - to tragedy. our thoughts remain with the families of max and - with the families of max and mason — with the families of max and mason in _ with the families of max and mason in the _ with the families of max and mason in the unimaginable i with the families of max and i mason in the unimaginable loss they are — mason in the unimaginable loss they are going _ mason in the unimaginable loss they are going through. - mason in the unimaginable loss they are going through. thank. they are going through. thank you _ the families of mason wrist who is —— mason rist. we heard that he was so lovely and wouldn't hurt a fly. the uncle talking about the family that lost a piece of their puzzle. second who is 16. the family talked
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about the fact that the two knew each other since nursery school in in the same classes. the family talked about the fact they would often joke it was a funny friendship as they were both so different and bounced off each other and brought out the best in each other. then we heard from the crown prosecution service, both families thinking the legal services and thejury families thinking the legal services and the jury in the public for their support —— thinking them. during this difficult case. let's go back to crown court and talk to our correspondent who has been covering the case. so heartbreaking to hear the statements from the families there. just talking about the fact that these were two innocent boys who just had gone out to get pizza after a night in and were brutally, really brutally murdered.- in and were brutally, really
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brutally murdered. yeah, in a 32nd incident _ brutally murdered. yeah, in a 32nd incident does _ brutally murdered. yeah, in a 32nd incident does two - brutally murdered. yeah, in a 32nd incident does two boys i 32nd incident does two boys lost their lives —— back in a 32nd incident. they were murdered in cold blood with knives and swords and weapons you didn't really see ten years ago but are becoming more common on our streets sadly. i am just looking at the family is consoling one another but i think also pleased with what has happened today. they got the verdicts they were hoping for which is that all five of those defendants were convicted of murder. i don't know if you could see when you are hearing from the crown prosecution service they reference to the boys but also the issue about knife crime. behind the knee to mums were holding hands —— behind them the two mums were holding hands. they had gone through hell together and have known each other for a long time, since nursery school when the boys met. they are standing in front of the mass media talking about the worst thing
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you could possibly talk about as parents which they had done with dignity and that their message across well. absolutely in the cps getting _ message across well. absolutely in the cps getting across - message across well. absolutely in the cps getting across the - in the cps getting across the message that carrying knives and other bladed weapons can only lead to tragedy. these were only knives but also swords. were only knives but also swords— were only knives but also swords. �* , . , were only knives but also swords. . , . , ,., swords. all, ya. they were so lona , swords. all, ya. they were so long, ridiculously _ swords. all, ya. they were so long, ridiculously long, - swords. all, ya. they were so long, ridiculously long, 50 . long, ridiculously long, 50 centimetres. that is a foot a half. so it is going to kill you if you stand with one. that is what happened here. they weren't stabbed multiple times, but a number of times which was enough to leave them bleeding out. they were taken to hospital and can be revived. one of the things you cannot know because you cannot identify them... three are under the age of 18 that they are equally childlike in their demeanour and the way they look
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in court today. there wasn't much reaction from them and i sometimes wonder as i sat through many of these cases over the last couple of years where i've seen increasingly young people convicted of the most heinous crimes whether or not they were really fully aware of the gravity of what has happened, what they have done any implications that that has on the families of the victims in this case. but also for their own families and what they will have to live through as a result of this and i think again, this is over very matter thatis again, this is over very matter that is utterly trivial, a rivalry between two different parts of bristol tonic there had been an earlier incident... the had earlier attack where bricks were thrown. they were just walking for pizza, these two boys, and just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong
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time when a car driven by anthony snook had riley tolliver and other teenagers and then to teenagers were dead. ~ ., ., ~' and then to teenagers were dead. ~ ., ., ,, . dead. we were looking at the sketches and _ dead. we were looking at the sketches and you _ dead. we were looking at the sketches and you mentioned | sketches and you mentioned 45—year—old anthony snook who is driving the car and also an 18—year—old involved as well as the three younger teens. those four teams will be sentenced in december. anthony in november. but there was adult involvement.- but there was adult involvement. �* ~ . , involvement. and the knee was 'ust 18 so involvement. and the knee was just 18 so just _ involvement. and the knee was just 18 so just a _ involvement. and the knee was just 18 so just a teenager - involvement. and the knee was just 18 so just a teenager and i just 18 so just a teenager and thatis just 18 so just a teenager and that is why he won't be sentenced until december along with the other boys. along with the young ages of the other defendants, that procedure was a bit and the hours were quite less. they didn't work as wigs and there was a reduced number of people in court so they try
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to make it easierfor them to cope with what was going on to chide understand what was going on, as well. anthony snook was that... didn't get out of the car, he wasn't found carrying a weapon that this is a joint enterprise murder charge. he argued that he had no idea what was going on but obviously, the jury was going on but obviously, the jury didn't believe that he could be driving for teenagers armed with massive swords are not know they were doing and why they got out and that is why they got out and that is why he was also convicted of murder under thejoint enterprise law, as well. the other four did enterprise law, as well. the otherfour did get enterprise law, as well. the other four did get out and they were involved in the insult where the two teams will have to die. , ., . ~' where the two teams will have to die. i. a ., ., to die. -- your neck of the two teens were _ to die. -- your neck of the two teens were left _ to die. -- your neck of the two teens were left to _ to die. -- your neck of the two teens were left to die. - to die. -- your neck of the two teens were left to die. in - teens were left to die. in terms of knife crime in bristol, this crime is so shocking, how much has this crime affected the wider
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community? because it is hard to get your head around the details. you have talked about how there has been this long—running gang rivalry in those particular areas of bristol. i those particular areas of bristol. ~ . those particular areas of bristol. ,, . ., bristol. i think that the wrong rivalry would _ bristol. i think that the wrong rivalry would have _ bristol. i think that the wrong rivalry would have resulted i bristol. i think that the wrong rivalry would have resulted in| rivalry would have resulted in this even five years ago —— the long rivalry. these weapons are finding their way into the hands of ever younger children. it is fair to tell about children killing children here. this has made the situation worse than previous incidents in bristol and other cities around the country, as well, where youngsters have kill one another because of these weapons. that long—running rivalry between the two regions of bristol is very pathetic on the outside that clearly has over a long period of time led to criminal gangs in those areas exacting revenge upon one another. now it has got younger
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and more deadly. people were really shocked when this happened in january. really shocked when this happened injanuary. there was a genuine outpouring of grief which we often use that phrase but if you look at pictures around the time when it happened it truly shocked both communities and brought them together in some ways and lead together in some ways and lead to a great deal of handling problems of knife crime. we have seen legislation this year which has made the cell of some of these weapons are illegal but it is very likely that many of those weapons were but before the law changed in the bbc investigation today showed that we were able to buy them online even though the law had changed. so the police are very keen to do as much as they can weather that is education in schools are legislation to try and at la this because it is getting out of hand —— to outlaw this. it seems like we
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