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live from london, this is bbc news. a group of teenagers in amman have been found guilty of murdering two best friends in a case of mistaken identity in bristol. with afghans being the largest group of migrants crossing the channel on small boats, we follow the journey they're making — and get a rare insight into the extraordinary risks they take. a backlash — after donald trump nominates — the vaccine sceptic and conspiracy theorist robert f kennedyjunior, to be his health secretary. here at bbc verify weep in fact taking some of the things robert here headset on public
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health issues. fight or fiasco — all eyes on mike tyson as the former heayweight champion takes on the youtuberjake
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an ordinary saturday night injanuary, and best friends max and mason are each at home playing computer games. later, they realise they are hungry and so decide to change out of their pyjamas and meet up to get some food. it was just after 11:00pm and you can see 16—year—old max here on cctv calling for his 15—year—old friend. his dressing gown is on the bed and you can see where he got undressed to go out that night. and ijust so wish that he put his pyjamas back on and just stayed in. i mean, i wish he'd just... he didn't go out. the boys head off down the street but within seconds, are set upon by a group who had gotten out of a passing car armed with knives, machetes and a sword. the attack was brutal. it was all caught by the security cameras on mason's family home.
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we have cctv of the attack. it is horrific. the attack lasted a short period and the injuries sustained to both boys were unsurvivable. because of the size and magnitude of the weapons used against them, the boys run for their lives. they must have been petrified. there is no positive consequence of using those weapons, it is a horrific weapon, in all my years as a police officer one of the most horrific weapons i have seen. the shocking events were rooted in decades of two different bristol postcodes. triggered an hour earlier. triggered an hour earlier. the conflict was triggered by bricks being thrown through the windows of this house. in response for other teenagers convinced it was people in response four other teenagers convinced it was people from knowle westjumped into a car and headed there, armed to the teeth intent on revenge. the car was driven by 45—year—old anthony snook
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and the teenagers were 18—year—old riley tolliver and three other boys aged 17—15 years old who are to young for us to name. chillingly for me, we know they stopped off at mcdonald's after attacking these two boys. two beautiful boys lost their lives and they went to mcdonald's for and they went to mcdonald's for an early morning breakfast. max and mason had nothing to do with the early attack on the house but the group didn't care. the schoolboys were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. he should still be here and i think that if they had gone out five minutes later or earlier, perhaps it wouldn't have happened. two 15 or 16—year—old kids, innocent, going out to get pizza.
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today, max and mason's families do now have some answers about who was responsible for their deaths. but, it is little consolation. there are no winners in this, there are countless families damaged for life that can never recover from this incident. fundamentally, my thoughts are with their families, there are consequences to peoples actions and the magnitude of which is these children will go to prison for a long time. i felt guilty as a sister, i should have been there for him. even that night, i was in bed while my brother... ..lay dying on the street. i wasn't there. i don't know anything about it, i wasn't there to protect him and i wasn't there after to tell him it's ok. so we never had a good bye.
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such a random act of unimaginable unprovoked violence that has led to so much loss, so much heartbreak and so many lives changed forever. laura jones with that report. mason rist�*s uncle and max dixon's mother have given statements on behalf of both families outside the court. we thank the jury for having to see what we've seen. and no one, no one should ever see any of that. and we thank them for coming to the correct decision as far as we as a family are concerned. we want to thank the public, all over bristol, all over the country that, you know, have seen what's happened to these two innocent boys and have helped along the way and everything. mason, ourfamily, like most families, is a is a big jigsaw puzzle.
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and mason was a massive part of that jigsaw puzzle. and basically that piece of the puzzle is now been destroyed and will never be replaced, but will always be in our hearts. the last six weeks have been emotionally draining. today's outcome doesn't change the fact that two families go home without their boys, but we can now hopefully begin to process that and rememberthem both, and the happy memories that both— families have of max and mason. i need to thank everyone that's been involved in our case. i have so much respect for the hard work, dedication and support to our families. there are no words to express how thankful i am to everyone. i will be forever grateful to them. it'sjust i wish we didn't have to be here today, but we've got some sort ofjustice for our boys. so thank you everybody. thank you. the devastating family statements, the conclusion of that case in bristol.
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afghans are the second largest group of migrants coming to the uk illegally in small boats. the un says they are among the top asylum seekers in the world. with a third of the country 5 people struggling to eat, and the taliban government banning women from work and education, thousands of afghans are trying to flee the country every day. but leaving it has become harder than ever before with countries like pakistan, iran and turkey intensifying their crackdown on illegal migration from afghanistan in the past year. our south asia correspondent yogita limaye reports from afghanistan and the uk with imogen anderson and sa njay ganguly in afghanistan run by the taliban a third of the people are struggling to eat. women live under brutal restrictions and those who work for the former military fear for their safety. it's why afghans are among the biggest groups fleeing their homes, going to the uk and other parts of the world. this former military officer is risking his life to speak to us. he's tried three
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times to make the perilous journey out of afghanistan. i will keep trying to flee even if i lose my life. as circumstances are such that we're dying every moment. we drove through kabul to get to where the officer started his journey, for which he sold his home and his wife's jewelry to pay the nearly $4000 that smugglers charge. it's from this bus stop in kabul that many of the people we spoken to have told us that they taken buses to the western border with iran, where they met up with iran, where they met up with people smugglers will come from thereon at each point they pass through one people smugglers to another as they tried to make their way from iran to turkey and eventually to europe. this is one of the main routes out of the country. afghans waiting to slip into iran on foot. a crossing that is become particularly dangerous. a month ago iran was
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accused of discriminant lady shooting afghan migrants was up this video of the injured and dead verified by the bbc. if they make it through iran migrants must cross this border wall into turkey. a smuggler but a ladder against the iranian side, cuts the razor wire to make a pop. many break their limbs making thejump. their limbs making the jump. this their limbs making thejump. this is video from last winter. run, run the smuggler shouts, don't be scared. that people are willing to endure this is how desperate they are to flee. 0n the other side of the wall these afghans are pleading for help, allegedly beaten by turkish forces. turkey has not responded to the allegations. the video can't be independently verified by the bbc, sent to us by an afghan
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smuggler in iran who we found after weeks of digging through their networks. you are endangering the lives of afghans, taking thousands of dollars from them, engaging in this criminal activity, how do you justify that? we this criminal activity, how do you justify that?— you justify that? we don't force peeple _ you justify that? we don't force people to _ you justify that? we don't force people to take - you justify that? we don't| force people to take these risks. we tell them they could be killed or imprisoned. what are we supposed to do when people tell us their family is going hungry in afghanistan? every step of the way their life threatening choices to make. a father in kabul shows us the grave of his son. a former soldier he drowned off a raft from turkey to greece, months before his first baby was born. his father blames foreign countries who are fighting in afghanistan. we were in the _ fighting in afghanistan. we were in the trenches together. if we _ were in the trenches together. if we knew we would be
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abandoned and betrayed no one would _ abandoned and betrayed no one would have joined hands with the international forces. by the internationalforces. by the internationalforces. by the time — the international forces. by the time afghan migrants make the time afghan migrants make the final leg of the journey to the final leg of the journey to the uk the risk of crossing the channel feels like nothing compared to what they have endured. in liverpool we met and asylum—seekers who arrived in a small boat six months ago. a former government employee she protested against the taliban. she could be eligible for one of the uk's reseller two resettlement schemes but the safe legal routes have simply been too slow, which means she's had to undertake a dramaticjourney. i means she's had to undertake a dramaticjourney.— means she's had to undertake a dramatic journey. dramatic “ourney. i come from a lo al dramatic journey. i come from a loyal family. _ dramatic journey. i come from a loyalfamily. is— dramatic journey. i come from a loyal family, is never— dramatic journey. i come from a loyal family, is never done - loyal family, is never done anything loyalfamily, is never done anything illegal. buti loyalfamily, is never done anything illegal. but i was afraid i would be detained and tortured in afghanistan. coming here is a choice _ tortured in afghanistan. coming here is a choice many _ tortured in afghanistan. coming here is a choice many afghans l here is a choice many afghans are forced to make because home can't provide the most basic of
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human needs safety, food, freedom. an extraordinary film. multiple dangers these people face along these various journeys. dangers these people face along these variousjourneys. how difficult was it to get people to talk to you, track down the people smugglers? i to talk to you, track down the people smugglers?— to talk to you, track down the people smugglers? i think one ofthe people smugglers? i think one of the reasons _ people smugglers? i think one of the reasons why _ people smugglers? i think one of the reasons why you - people smugglers? i think one of the reasons why you don't l of the reasons why you don't hear these voices so often is because they are all in countries which are quite difficult to access. in the past one or two years it's become extremely difficult as a foreign journalist to get into afghanistan. for domestic journalists there are a loto stringent restrictions imposed by the taliban government. so going to afghanistan and fighting people on the ground who have made these is extremely difficult. they're often scared to speak because their lives are at risk and they know they are going to engage in something which is illegal. the root, the main routes that pass through iran, very difficult for us to
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access, which is why what we've had to do is remotely work for had to do is remotely work for weeks to try to get through the weeks to try to get through the smuggling networks for the smuggling networks for the people we've been actually to people we've been actually to meet on the ground in meet on the ground in afghanistan and then through afghanistan and then through them track down people in iran. them track down people in iran. that is out we've got these that is out we've got these voices. , . ., ., ., , voices. they are extraordinary voices. , . ., ., ., , voices. they are extraordinary voices. they are extraordinary voices. they are extraordinary voices- as _ voices. they are extraordinary voices. as you _ voices. they are extraordinary voices. as you talk _ voices. they are extraordinary voices- as _ voices. they are extraordinary voices. as you _ voices. they are extraordinary voices. as you talk _ voices. they are extraordinary voices. as you talk to - voices. they are extraordinary voices. as you talk to them, l voices. as you talk to - voices. they are extraordinary voices. as you talk to them, l voices. as you talk to them, why the uk and why not the voices. as you talk to them, why the uk and why not the legal routes?— legal routes?— legal routes? one of the legal routes? one of the reasons _ legal routes? one of the reasons people - reasons _ legal routes? one of the reasons people - legal routes? one of the reasons people explain i legal routes? one of the - legal routes? one of the reasons people explain i legal routes? one of the - reasons people explain when reasons people explain when they explained why the uk, the they explained why the uk, the uk and germany are the main uk and germany are the main destinations they want to get destinations they want to get to put up with the uk seen as to put up with the uk seen as an economical country that an economical country that would offer work arc would offer work arc opportunity and germany as opportunity and germany as well. i think with the uk there well. i think with the uk there is a language familiarity. they is a language familiarity. they feel the us was there in feel the us was there in afghanistan for 20 years for afghanistan for 20 years for that they our legal use of the that they our legal use of the route k, tens of thousands of route k, tens of thousands of afghans have been afghans have been relocated. most of that resettlement happened right after the taliban take over for them
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after that
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we turn to the us. there's alarm in the us after donald trump's decision — to nominate some of the most controversial figures in american politics — to top jobs in his administration. among the latest names, is robert f kennedyjunior, for health secretary —
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a prominent vaccine sceptic and conspiracy theorist. donald trump said — rfkjr has a "great mind" and will make america healthy again. the backlash has been significant — the executive director of the american public health association says, he and his organisation will "absolutely oppose" the president elect�*s appointment, of rfkjr, as health secretary. i'v e i've been talking to a staff writer at the atlantic. he gave me his assessment of donald trump's latest peck. it tells me that the president elect is making spiteful pics at this point. he's ——. br warning the enemies of the existing, not only the existing american government as it's been constituted for decades. also he is trolling. there is just no other way to put this.
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he is intentionally throwing people out, specifically to generate trauma and controversy and rage because he he thinks if they are angry he's winning. this isn't a tv show any more. this isn't a tv show any more. this isn't a rally. these are peoples lives in the balance. this particular nomination is a direct threat to the health of hundreds of millions of americans.— hundreds of millions of americans. , . ~ , americans. let me pick up another — americans. let me pick up another point _ americans. let me pick up another point point. - americans. let me pick up another point point. i - americans. let me pick up another point point. i readj americans. let me pick up i another point point. i read an article which described the sane watching of rfkjunior thatis sane watching of rfkjunior that is going on among some republicans as they close race. in your point how dangerous izzy in terms of basic public health? ., ., ., , health? extraordinarily dangerous. _ health? extraordinarily dangerous. even - health? extraordinarily dangerous. even in - health? extraordinarilyl dangerous. even in your health? extraordinarily - dangerous. even in your report this morning and it is the typical way of referring to rfk
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as a vaccine skeptic. he's not as a vaccine skeptic. he's not a vaccine skeptic, he's a denier. he is a science denier. his ideas are notjust about vaccines, about 5g and chemicals in the water that turn kids gay. this guy has beliefs that are notjust friends beliefs that are not
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