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do not believe and some of the negative vaccine statements that he has made. i am somewhat encourage that over the past few weeks he has moderated those positions quite substantially. shares in european vaccine makers fall after donald trump has a vaccine sceptic for his health secretary.— health secretary. robert kennedy _ health secretary. robert kennedy junior - health secretary. robert kennedy junior is - health secretary. robert kennedy junior is also i health secretary. robert - kennedy junior is also labelled kennedyjunior is also labelled absolutely the wrong guy by health professionals. donald trump says he has a great mind and will make america healthy again. we'll have the latest on all his appointments. while he nominates his cabinet president, he is thousands of miles away attending apec in peru.
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the head of the biggest group of professionals in the united states said robert kennedy junior is the wrong guy to be the next health secretary after donald trump picked him for the role. shares and vaccine makers dropped after the news on the latest of controversial choices of key governmentjobs for the president elect. meanwhile the speaker of the house of representative said a report by the house ethics committee for the house ethics committee for the man to be the top lawyer should not be released. he was investigated but not charged over allegations of this sex trafficking, drug use and misuse of campaign funds, allegations that she strongly denies. a number of politicans, though, including republicans,
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are calling for the report to be made public. the majority of the people picked by donald trump have to be vetted and confirmed by the senate, but the incoming president could circumvent that process by making recess appointments, which would allow him to get his people into position for a year without senate approval. but will he get everyone he wants? here's our north america editor sarah smith. donald trump is rewarding his most loyal acolytes with big jobs. robert kennedyjunior dropped his own bid for the white house to back trump, and now the president—elect wants to put him in charge of america's public health. he is going to help make america healthy again. he is a provocative choice, because he is a vocal vaccine sceptic who repeats debunked theories about links to autism and questions other accepted scientific findings. he does say he won't stop anyone from getting vaccinated. anybody who wants to take the vaccine, i'm not going to get in their way. if you want a vaccine or if you want to vaccinate your children, those vaccines will be available.
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please welcome the president of the united states! - as donald trump was savouring victory last night, he had a gentle warning for those closest to him. people like you, bobby. don't get too popular, bobby. you've reached about the level. matt gaetz is the most controversial nominee. donald john trump. donald trump wants to make him attorney general because he would agree to use the justice system to persecute trump's opponents. but lawmakers are demanding to see the results of a congressional investigation into allegations of sex trafficking before they agree. he is not popular, even with fellow republicans. mr gaetz breaks things to break things and once he breaks it, he breaks it even more. that is somebody who should not be the attorney general of the united states. trump's shock troops are eager to see him pursue his enemies. he tried to destroy trump, he tried to imprison trump, he tried to break trump.
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he is not breakable. he couldn't destroy him. and now he has turned on you, and he has put a firebrand in charge of the department ofjustice. republicans will control both houses of congress, but that does not guarantee donald trump will get his way. the senate must approve his cabinet choices, and some members have grave reservations. trump is daring them to defy him, determined to prove he wields the power in washington. sarah smith, bbc news. 1st, mona c 1st, haren, columnist and policy editor we have both of you now. we thought we were going to have to wait a minute to talk to you but i have got both of you know at the same time. let's talk about two of those most
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controversial nomination from donald trump, robert f kennedy junior and also his pick for the attorney general, the top lawyer. do you think, first of all, that trump is not going to blink in terms of putting these people be for the senate to be vetted and confirmed, or might he use these recess appointments to get them into position anyway?— position anyway? well, he is threatening _ position anyway? well, he is threatening to _ position anyway? well, he is threatening to use _ position anyway? well, he is threatening to use the - position anyway? well, he is| threatening to use the recess power, there is a little bit of grumbling on the part of some senators, notably the senator for alaska, senators, notably the senator foralaska, republican, senators, notably the senator for alaska, republican, who has noted that the senate does have a constitutional role here of advice and consent. she is not willing to roll over, but let understand what is happening
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here. trump is attempting to upend the entire system of checks and balances. he has no concern for constitutional traditions or niceties. and thatis traditions or niceties. and that is why he is expecting obedience from the senators and he is threatening that he will demand that the recess and they make recess appointments if they insist on their constitutional role. . ., constitutional role. what are our constitutional role. what are yourthoughts— constitutional role. what are your thoughts on _ constitutional role. what are your thoughts on that? - constitutional role. what are your thoughts on that? how| your thoughts on that? how important is it or does it matter to the president elect whether the senate confirms his choices are whether these recess appointments are used? here is championship's problem, he does — here is championship's problem, he does not have to go for re—election in less than two years' — re—election in less than two years' time which many of these senators— years' time which many of these senators and all the members of the house — senators and all the members of the house of represent —— house of representatives will have to. trump has made it
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exceptionally difficult for them _ exceptionally difficult for them. they were hoping they could — them. they were hoping they could write this mandate that he just — could write this mandate that he just won and instead he has put out — he just won and instead he has put out quite frankly a bit of a circus, _ put out quite frankly a bit of a circus, the clown show, and they— a circus, the clown show, and they are — a circus, the clown show, and they are going to have to justify— they are going to have to justify those votes, i do not think— justify those votes, i do not think even if trump tries to ram — think even if trump tries to ram it_ think even if trump tries to ram it through in a recess appointment, that makes any less difficult because ultimately, this is the party of rfk_ ultimately, this is the party of rfkjunior, the other characters that trump is putting _ characters that trump is putting forward like matt gaetz for attorney general. but putting forward like matt gaetz for attorney general.— for attorney general. but the republicans _ for attorney general. but the republicans have _ for attorney general. but the republicans have slim - republicans have slim majorities on both houses, we are talking about the senate here in terms of the confirmations process. do you have a sense that some of them will want to flex their independence? in will want to flex their independence? will want to flex their inde endence? ., .,
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independence? in the era of trump we — independence? in the era of trump we have _ independence? in the era of trump we have seen - independence? in the era of trump we have seen less i independence? in the era of. trump we have seen less and less evidence of spines among republicans time after time, they have demonstrated that they have demonstrated that they are willing to bend the knee to trump and those who have not have paid a price. but there are some... look, these nominations are not only controversial or somewhat different, these are a joke. these nominations are making a mockery of the entire government. the idea of putting someone like robert f kennedy junior in charge of america's health care bureaucracy, the department of health and human services, this is notjust someone who sometimes is a vaccine sceptic, this is someone who is a full on conspiracy believing lying scoundrel who is responsible
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for deaths around the world for denying vaccine, who believes that wi-fi denying vaccine, who believes that wi—fi causes brain damage, who does not think that the aids virus, that hiv causes aids, who has said things like covid—i9 was manufactured to spearjew and agents. he is in that case. the idea of putting someone like that in this kind of position really begins to stress our government to the breaking point, really. fin stress our government to the breaking point, really. on matt gaetz, do _ breaking point, really. on matt gaetz. do you _ breaking point, really. on matt gaetz, do you think _ breaking point, really. on matt gaetz, do you think that - breaking point, really. on matt gaetz, do you think that one i gaetz, do you think that one way or another this house ethics report is going to make its way into the public domain? we know that the speaker of the house thanks it should not be released. , ., , ., released. there is no question it is coming — released. there is no question it is coming out. _
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released. there is no question it is coming out. ultimately, i it is coming out. ultimately, that— it is coming out. ultimately, that report is going to come out through official channels or it — out through official channels or it is — out through official channels or it is going to come out through— or it is going to come out through unofficial channels. either— through unofficial channels. either way, the substance of it will he — either way, the substance of it will be known and as you mentioned in his already put speaker— mentioned in his already put speaker mike johnson in a difficult _ speaker mike johnson in a difficult spot because it looks like he — difficult spot because it looks like he is _ difficult spot because it looks like he is covering up for misdeeds by matt gaetz who would — misdeeds by matt gaetz who would become the number—one law enforcement official the united states — enforcement official the united states. ~ enforcement official the united states. , ., enforcement official the united states. ~ , ., enforcement official the united states. , ., ., enforcement official the united states. ., states. we should say that matt gaetz has not — states. we should say that matt gaetz has not been _ states. we should say that matt gaetz has not been charged i states. we should say that matt| gaetz has not been charged with anything. gaetz has not been charged with an hina. . , gaetz has not been charged with an hin. . ,., gaetz has not been charged with an hina. . ,., ., gaetz has not been charged with an hin. . ,., ., anything. that is a fair point, nonetheless, _ anything. that is a fair point, nonetheless, based - anything. that is a fair point, nonetheless, based on i anything. that is a fair point, i nonetheless, based on reporting liy nonetheless, based on reporting by the _ nonetheless, based on reporting by the washington post and other— by the washington post and other media outlets, the contents of this investigation by the — contents of this investigation by the house ethics committee is scandalous, and is concerning. matt gaetz is going to go— concerning. matt gaetz is going to go to — concerning. matt gaetz is going to go to hearings, he is going to go to hearings, he is going to be — to go to hearings, he is going to be asked not only by republicans but by democrats as well, _ republicans but by democrats as well, this— republicans but by democrats as well, this puts everyone in a
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very— well, this puts everyone in a very awkward position. this is on top — very awkward position. this is on top of— very awkward position. this is on top of what is already some very— on top of what is already some very questionable actions and statements that matt gaetz has made _ statements that matt gaetz has made over his political career. trump — made over his political career. trump is — made over his political career. trump is already off to a rocky start _ trump is already off to a rocky start and — trump is already off to a rocky start and it is hard to see how it gets — start and it is hard to see how it gets better in the coming months _ it gets better in the coming months. ~ ., ., , ., ~' months. what do you think it means if all— months. what do you think it means if all of— months. what do you think it means if all of these - months. what do you think it means if all of these pics i means if all of these pics through, the nomination, consultation and confirmation process, if they all get through, what do you think that means broadly for america? for one thing. _ means broadly for america? for one thing. it _ means broadly for america? fr?" one thing, it reshuffles the cards internationally. it is impossible to imagine that the united states will remain a trusted ally of europeans and our agent partners when at the top of our intelligence agencies as a person who has been an apologist for the
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situation in syria, who has circulated russian propaganda about ukraine, very sympathetic to president putin, no one is going to feel comfortable sharing secrets with us if this kind of a person is at the top of our intelligence pyramid. it is going to signal a withdrawal of the united states from world leadership with consequences that cannot be good for freedom loving people around the world and people here. secondly, with regard to the nominations, people who so when they voted for trump they were going to get the guy they remember from 2017 to 2019, not too many terrible things happened while he was president from their point of view, but the fact is
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that he was restrained in the first term by the people around him who tended to be responsible, traditional republicans. this time around, he warned us and it was going to be retribution, it was going to be retribution, it was going to be retribution, it was going to be payback, and people who voted for him ignoring that warning are now going to see the full force, that he meant it, and the trump they are getting is that 2020 trump, the one, or the 2021 trump who orchestrated the attack on our own government, on our capitol, that should have been the most infamous act that any president had ever committed, it should have been perceived as such by the american people and i'm afraid that there is going to be a very hard lesson in what happens when you elect a pathological narcissist. d0
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happens when you elect a pathological narcissist. do you subscribe to _ pathological narcissist. do you subscribe to the _ pathological narcissist. do you subscribe to the picture i pathological narcissist. do you subscribe to the picture that l subscribe to the picture that has been painted there? there was one poll conducted during the campaign, over one third of people in that poll were saying that they were actively voting for someone to come along and really shape up there we america does things. he won the electoral college, he won the popular vote. electoral college, he won the popularvote. do electoral college, he won the popular vote. do you subscribe to that view? i popular vote. do you subscribe to that view?— to that view? i do think that americans _ to that view? i do think that americans are _ to that view? i do think that americans are looking i to that view? i do think that americans are looking for. americans are looking for radical— americans are looking for radical change, that is what he offered — radical change, that is what he offered. whether or not they have — offered. whether or not they have yet _ offered. whether or not they have yet calculated some of the collateral consequences of that radical— collateral consequences of that radical change is still open to question _ radical change is still open to question. trump feels and many republicans feel they have a mandate to make those kind of changes — mandate to make those kind of changes which is why we are getting _ changes which is why we are getting some of these nominees,
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like matt— getting some of these nominees, like matt gaetz, like robert f kennedyjunior, luke, isn't kennedy junior, luke, isn't quite — kennedy junior, luke, isn't quite as— kennedyjunior, luke, isn't quite as bleak as mona has painted? i hope not. am holding out that— painted? i hope not. am holding out that we will see some of the restraint, some of the efforts— the restraint, some of the efforts by republican leaders in the — efforts by republican leaders in the house as well as in the senate — in the house as well as in the senate to— in the house as well as in the senate to exercise some oversight. and ultimately trump knows _ oversight. and ultimately trump knows there is one important factor— knows there is one important factor here, if the economy starts — factor here, if the economy starts to— factor here, if the economy starts to go downward, that is bad news _ starts to go downward, that is bad news for republicans in the re—election in 2026, it is bad news — re—election in 2026, it is bad news for— re—election in 2026, it is bad news for trump who ultimately wants — news for trump who ultimately wants this to become a movement thatjd _ wants this to become a movement thatjd vance, the vice president will inherit, if the economy— president will inherit, if the economy takes, then he is not going — economy takes, then he is not going to — economy takes, then he is not going to get the legacy that he so badly— going to get the legacy that he so badly desires.— so badly desires. really good to talk to _ so badly desires. really good to talk to you. _ so badly desires. really good to talk to you. thanks - so badly desires. really good
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to talk to you. thanks for i so badly desires. really good | to talk to you. thanks for your thoughts this evening. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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let's turn to those nominations for key positions in his cabinet i donald trump that are causing a lot of controversy including the health secretary robert f kennedyjunior, a vaccine sceptic who has been nominated by the president elect. well, consultant paediatrician dr david elliman told the bbc earlier that kennedy's promise to tackle "the industrial food complex would be no bad thing". still, he and other scientists object to a number of rfkjr s other food policy plans, such as his threats to fire nutritionists at the us food and drug administration. bbc verify�*s merlyn thomas looks now at the controversial claims he has made in the past. as donald trump prepares to enter the white house, those he
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chooses to bring with him will have an impact on millions of americans. robert f kennedy junior has been nominated as the health secretary in the second presidential term. this is what trump said about him and his victory speech. he is what trump said about him and his victory speech.- and his victory speech. he is auoin and his victory speech. he is going to _ and his victory speech. he is going to help _ and his victory speech. he is going to help make - and his victory speech. he is going to help make america| going to help make america healthy again. rfk going to help make america healthy again.— going to help make america healthy again. rfk junior isn't environmental _ healthy again. rfk junior isn't environmental lawyer- healthy again. rfk junior isn't environmental lawyer and i healthy again. rfk junior isn't| environmental lawyer and part of the kennedy dynasty. he's been a vaccine sceptic for nearly two decades and has shared misinformation on a range of public health issues. now, one of his main false claims, repeated in a 2023 interview with fox news, was that autism comes from vaccines. multiple studies across many countries have concluded there is no link between vaccines and autism. rfkjr has denied on several occasions that he is anti—vaccination and says he has had his children vaccinated. i have never been anti—vax.
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i have never told anybody... i have never told the public avoid vaccination. and in an interview after the selection, he said he didn't want to take vaccines away, but that people should have the best information so they can make informed choices. during the pandemic, rfkjr was also a critic of restrictions to limit the spread of covid—i9. he also spread misinformation by telling media that "covid—i9 is targeted to attack caucasians and black people". these claims are false. health specialists have said the virus didn't target any specific ethnic group and the number of covid cases had more to do with larger or intergenerational households. rfkjr has also long campaigned against fluoridated water. now, fluoride, a naturally occurring mineral, is added to water supplies in many countries, and it's long been recognised to protect teeth against decay. in his post on x, rfkjr said fluoride is associated with several health issues, including arthritis, bone cancer and neurodevelopmental disorders. but experts we spoke to say the research he cites doesn't relate to the very low levels of fluoride in drinking water.
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now the big question is whether his appointment will be approved by the senate, and if so, how will rfk jr govern? joining me now is former us diplomat and president of the global situations room, brett bruen, and mona charen, columnist and policy editor for the the bulwark. we talked a little bit about rfkjunior earlier this hour, rfk junior earlier this hour, did you rfkjunior earlier this hour, did you think he is principally, obviously he had presidential ambitions himself? do you think now that he is principally being rewarded for the very public shift and expression of loyalty and support for donald trump? i think there is no doubt that trump _ think there is no doubt that trump is _ think there is no doubt that trump is trying to shore up the support— trump is trying to shore up the support that he got from rfk gingers— support that he got from rfk ginger's if you will, rather extreme _ ginger's if you will, rather
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extreme segment of the voting population. he is trying to broaden— population. he is trying to broaden his coalition, putting rfkjunior and his cabinet and bringing — rfkjunior and his cabinet and bringing him along with some of those _ bringing him along with some of those libertarian and extreme voters — those libertarian and extreme voters and what he is doing the same _ voters and what he is doing the same thing, ultimately, this is going — same thing, ultimately, this is going to — same thing, ultimately, this is going to be some sort of coalition government because quite — coalition government because quite frankly, the view is that both— quite frankly, the view is that both of— quite frankly, the view is that both of them represent are not the traditional views of republicans. it is going to be interesting to see how so many of these — interesting to see how so many of these conservative republican senators can reconcile their views with rfk junior's — reconcile their views with rfk junior's reproductive rights stance _ junior's reproductive rights stance so we are going to see some _ stance so we are going to see some interesting political gymnastics taking place during the confirmation theory hearing. the confirmation theory hearing-— the confirmation theory hearinu. , ., hearing. during donald trump's first presidency _
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hearing. during donald trump's first presidency and _ hearing. during donald trump's first presidency and the - hearing. during donald trump's first presidency and the period l first presidency and the period afterwards when joe first presidency and the period afterwards whenjoe biden was elected as his successor, we saw a lot of controversy around donald trump and what he thought about some of the views on vaccination and how to handle the covid—i9 epidemic, the pandemic. do you think now that we are very much in an era where people are appointed for their loyalty rather than for their loyalty rather than for their expertise and experience? 100%. the entire qualification to serve in donald trump's cabinet is that you be faithful, loyal to trump and willing to do his bidding no matter what. willing to do his bidding no matterwhat. even willing to do his bidding no matter what. even if it is not ethical or immoral or unconstitutional. i will say that trump has always had an attraction for a nutty idea is himself. let's not forget that
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in 2016, after trump was elected the first time, he interviewed rfkjunior at his interviewed rfk junior at his trump interviewed rfkjunior at his trump tower and they had a chat about vaccines and the belief that they caused autism, and trump said he thought the same, and he has actually, he had been on record voicing that view which as your video noted has been thoroughly debunked. but he toyed with rfk junior even then. he has an attraction to ideas that are on the kooky fringe. and that violate science and good judgment. i am science and good “udgment. i am auoin science and good “udgment. i am aoian to science and good judgment. i am going to interrupt _ science and good judgment. i am going to interrupt you _ science and good judgment. i am going to interrupt you because we are almost out of time and i want to ask one more question, what hallmark of the first trump presidency was a lot of
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falling out with various appointments and people who were once close to him. do you think these alliances could go the same way? i think these alliances could go the same way?— think these alliances could go the same way? i have no doubt, ou the same way? i have no doubt, you could _ the same way? i have no doubt, you could put — the same way? i have no doubt, you could put an _ the same way? i have no doubt, you could put an egg _ the same way? i have no doubt, you could put an egg timer i the same way? i have no doubt, you could put an egg timer to i you could put an egg timer to it, you could put an egg timer to it. quite — you could put an egg timer to it, quite frankly, as was noted by mona. _ it, quite frankly, as was noted by mona, you will have a lot of ideological differences. you will have a lot of flak. trump does — will have a lot of flak. trump does not _ will have a lot of flak. trump does not realise quite how politically risky some of these appointments are. every time they— appointments are. every time they say— appointments are. every time they say something or do something that antagonises key republican groups that he needs. _ republican groups that he needs, he is going to have his social— needs, he is going to have his social light up with criticism, you are _ social light up with criticism, you are already starting to see it from — you are already starting to see it from the new york post which endorsed — it from the new york post which endorsed him for president asking _ endorsed him for president asking why it is putting forward someone who is medically irresponsible like rfkjunior. medically irresponsible like rfkjunior-— medically irresponsible like rfk'unior. ., , . rfk “unior. thank you very much for rfkjunior. thank you very much for our rfkjunior. thank you very much for your thoughts, _ rfkjunior. thank you very much for your thoughts, that - rfkjunior. thank you very much for your thoughts, that new i for your thoughts, that new york post article saying some of those controversial choices
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are going to be a distraction from trying to make progress on the promises he made on the campaign trail like on the economy. really good to have with us here today on the context. thank you very much. stay with us here on the context. hello. there is quite a big change on the way in our weather, a transition to something colder. that cold air right now lurking to the north of us, is going to sink its way southwards as we head through the weekend, but it's not a straightforward process. milder air tries to stage a comeback from the southwest through the early part of next week, before this arctic air really wins out. but as that transition takes place, it may well be that some places see some quite significant snowfall, some ice in the mix as well. and certainly it is going to turn cold for all
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of us into next week. the first signs of that cold air digging in behind this cold front, bringing a band of cloud and patchy rain southwards across scotland, northern ireland. ahead of that, through the night, england and wales seeing large amounts of clouds and mist and fog patches down towards the south. behind our weather front, the skies will clear, but there'll be some showers and it will be pretty windy up towards the far north of scotland. gales for the western and northern isles. a touch of frost for some in northern scotland. conversely, where we start saturday morning with this cloud, mist, murk, outbreaks of rain, it will be a milder start to the day. our frontal system continuing its journey slowly southwards through the day. a lot of cloud ahead of it. behind it though, lots of sunshine, but with scattered showers which will be wintry over high ground in northern scotland. certainly a colder feel to the weather, here will stay quite windy in the north as well. still milderfor the time being further south. now sunday getting off to a cold start for many. quite a lot of sunshine around with a scattering of wintry showers.
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but through the day we see this approaching frontal system from the west bringing some rain into northern ireland, southwest scotland, northwest england, parts of north wales. now this is a warm front and it's going to try to usher in some milder air, but that cold air will still be sitting to the north. and as this weather fronts and this area of low pressure runs eastwards, that interaction between the milder and the cold air could give some of us some quite significant snow, but there is still a lot of uncertainty about exactly where that might be. but as that low swings away eastwards, all of us will be left in the cold air later next week with some wintry showers.
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hello, i'm annita mcveigh. you're watching the context on bbc news. president biden isjoining asia—pacific leaders for an economic summit, where he's due to speak. sport, and for a full round—up from the bbc sport centre, here's gavin. yes, hi there. plenty of football to get stuck
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into, with the uefa nations league and plenty at stake. scotland could be relegated from their group in the top tier. they're in action against croatia at hampden. goalless there. steve clarke's side looking to arrest a ten—match winless run in competitive games. also in their group, portugal—poland also goalless. other big games to keep an eye on in league a, denmark down 1—0 against spain. switzerland—serbia goalless. paul pogba's time atjuventus has come to an end. he's reached a mutual agreement to terminate his contract with the italian side. the former manchester united midfielder, whosejuve deal was set to expire in 2026, has been linked with intermiami. the frenchman, who has 91 caps for his country, was handed a four—year doping ban in march, but can play again from early next year after his punishment was reduced to 18 months. carlos alcaraz is heading home to spain from the atp tourfinals after losing for a second time in turin, beaten by alex zverev earlier on friday. alcaraz needed a win
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and probably in straight sets to have had a realistic chance of reaching the semifinals

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