the vote happened. have moment that the vote happened. have a look. —— by paying the moments that the red habit. the a look. -- by paying the moments that the red habit.— a look. -- by paying the moments that the red habit. the nose to the left 270 have- _ that the red habit. the nose to the left 270 have. the _ that the red habit. the nose to the left 270 have. the ayes _ that the red habit. the nose to the left 270 have. the ayes have - that the red habit. the nose to the left 270 have. the ayes have it! i that the red habit. the nose to the l left 270 have. the ayes have it! the ayes left 270 have. the ayes have it! the eyes have _ left 270 have. the ayes have it! the eyes have it — there it is, a moment of history, as mp's at westminster vote to support a bill, to legalise assisted dying. it was in the end relatively close — 330 votes to 275, as you heard — the bill now progresses to the next stage. the vote came after hours of impassioned, personal, principled, moving debate. the prime minister, sir keir starmer among those who voted in favour of the bill for those who'd come to parliamenrt to back �*assisted dying'. this was the moment they heard how mps had voted. all day, there have been supporters and protestors in rival groups making their case.

these are the pictures a short distance away of those who'd lobbied against the bill. worth saying, it is not now law, this is just the first hurdle, but in the past when mp's have voted, it's always fallen at this hurdle. we're going to spend the next few hours getting reaction to this landmark moment, talking to those on both sides of the debate, hearing from doctors in countries where this has already been legalised, and examining what this bills actually lays out, and the likely time frame. let's start by going back to westminster and to our political correspondent, helen catt. asi as i was saying there, this really is a landmark moment... this as i was saying there, this really is a landmark moment. . .- as i was saying there, this really is a landmark moment... this is a really significant _ is a landmark moment... this is a really significant moment, - is a landmark moment... this is a really significant moment, not. is a landmark moment... this is a | really significant moment, notjust for parliament but actually in society as well. this is the first time that there is a prospect in england and wales that assisted dying could be allowed by law. in these very specific circumstances

that are set out in the bill that kim leadbeater has put forward. that it's for terminally ill adults that have a mental capacity, they have a settled preference to do this, and there are many other... then have to have less than six months to live. it's quite a tightly tightly drawn set of circumstances. this is the first time this has been allowed, or is the path to being allowed potentially, in england and wales. part of that you can see in the way the debate was carried out. the silence, the contemplative speeches. mps realise this was a big societal shift they were considering making here. that is really being taken into account. some of those in the debate characterised it as being talking about allowing the state to become involved in death and that would be a big change from where we are now. so it is a big moment, there is no guarantee this will make

it into law, there is a lot of parliamentary stages that it will need to pass to be able to do that, but as a symbolic and significant moment it is certainly one of those. you touch upon it, quite often people around the world who will watch prime minister's questions and see punch and judy politics, this was parliament at its very best, wasn't it? it was parliament at its very best, wasn't it? . , was parliament at its very best, wasn't it?— was parliament at its very best, wasn't it? ., , ., ., wasn't it? it was worlds away from prime minister's _ wasn't it? it was worlds away from prime minister's questions, - wasn't it? it was worlds away from prime minister's questions, there| prime minister's questions, there was... quite often when you watch things in the commons chamber there arejeers and shouting, things in the commons chamber there are jeers and shouting, people shouting other people down. today there was none of that. it was quiet and respectful, and part of that is because this was a vote of conscience. mps were allowed to vote however they like. there were no party lines to defend him. not only did that mean that everyone was making a speech saying what they believed, no one was being told to

give a particular line, because if they were taking part in this debate it was because they wanted to say it. you got a lot of personal speeches, people recounting personal experiences, and quite harrowing stories are both sides of the debate, also from constituents. it did have quite a different tone which was befitting, if that is the right word, slightly archaic, it befitted the magnitude of the change that they are considering making. i want tojust read that they are considering making. i want to just read for viewers comments from dame esther rantzen who has been a realforce for trying to get this legislation in front of mps for a vote. of course she talked before the election to say keir starmer. she has described kim leadbetter�*s introduction of the bill as extraordinary. she has a complete mastery of the fact, she knows what are the most crucial

facts. she put it all clearly, taking interventions all the way through that debate. i was lost in admiration. she is an extraordinary person. i was also really moved by the various doctors who took part who gave painful but important descriptions of the kind of deaths people suffer which cannot be easily even with the best of palliative care, and i'm sure those interventions were important. keir starmer had promised her personally that he would put forward legislation like this?— legislation like this? well that he would allow _ legislation like this? well that he would allow it _ legislation like this? well that he would allow it to _ legislation like this? well that he would allow it to happen - legislation like this? well that i he would allow it to happen because this hasn't come from the government, this is a backbench, private members bill which are quite often use for these societal shift... what keir starmer has said was that he would not get in the way

of that. there was then a ballot of mps which happens every time, every new session of parliament, the first mps that are drawn out of a hat get a chance to put forward legislation of their choosing. kim leadbetter said she wanted to take up this because of assisted dying and that's how we got to this point. the government will get involved a little bit more now it is past the second reading. there are certain things that they have to look at in terms of timing and the background stuff. there is some suggestion they have to do produce an impact assessment, there is a little bit more government involvement. but it is still very much a private member's bill that is coming from parliament, not government. helen we will come back — parliament, not government. helen we will come back to _ parliament, not government. helen we will come back to you _ parliament, not government. helen we will come back to you in _ parliament, not government. helen we will come back to you in a _ parliament, not government. helen we will come back to you in a few - will come back to you in a few moments. let's speak to my colleague

karin giannone who's outside the houses of parliament. just give me a sense of who you are with currently, and the reaction we have had in the last 45 minutes... we just have had in the last 45 minutes... wejust come to have had in the last 45 minutes... we just come to those who support the bill _ we just come to those who support the bill. it's a very different picture _ the bill. it's a very different picture here compared to a few hundred — picture here compared to a few hundred metres down the road where the campaign against the bill,... the reaction there was extremely sombre — the reaction there was extremely sombre. there was a bit of chanting and then_ sombre. there was a bit of chanting and then the group fell silent. there — and then the group fell silent. there quietly starting to walk awaym — there quietly starting to walk away... here, so so different a quiet _ away... here, so so different a quiet sense _ away... here, so so different a quiet sense of celebration. it's also _ quiet sense of celebration. it's also bittersweet for many people here who — also bittersweet for many people here who have lost their loved ones in recent— here who have lost their loved ones in recent years. it is something that— in recent years. it is something that they— in recent years. it is something that they have hoped may happen and of course _ that they have hoped may happen and of course they know this is just the first stage — of course they know this is just the first stage of potentially a very

lon- first stage of potentially a very long process before this becomes law. long process before this becomes law let's — long process before this becomes law. let's bring in a couple of people — law. let's bring in a couple of people who have been here all day, hoping _ people who have been here all day, hoping for— people who have been here all day, hoping for this bill to go through. you are _ hoping for this bill to go through. you are here because of your wife, 'ust you are here because of your wife, just tell— you are here because of your wife, just tell us — you are here because of your wife, just tell us a — you are here because of your wife, just tell us a little bit about what you went — just tell us a little bit about what you went through... i just tell us a little bit about what you went through... i accompanied my wife to switzerland _ you went through... i accompanied my wife to switzerland a _ you went through... i accompanied my wife to switzerland a few _ you went through... i accompanied my wife to switzerland a few years - you went through... i accompanied my wife to switzerland a few years ago. i wife to switzerland a few years ago. in her words, she said i can't go on, i'm not prepared to live this difficult and painful life any more. so for her, that was her decision. it was a long process but she got there and had the death that she wanted. but she didn't have it where or when she wanted. there was a lot of additionalfear and or when she wanted. there was a lot of additional fear and stress and anxiety because of the legal situation that exists currently. i wanted to ask a reaction but let me know— wanted to ask a reaction but let me know what— wanted to ask a reaction but let me know what you had to go through legally— know what you had to go through legally because you had to report this to _ legally because you had to report this to police... ?i

legally because you had to report this to police. . ._ this to police... ? i read the cps guidelines _ this to police... ? i read the cps guidelines and _ this to police... ? i read the cps guidelines and it _ this to police... ? i read the cps guidelines and it mitigates - this to police... ? i read the cps l guidelines and it mitigates against prosecution. i didn't really want this hanging over me for months and years so i reported to them and when i got back i was interviewed. by people for four hours you came round the house who went through christy's e—mails and records to make sure that she had made all the arrangements and then i was formally interviewed... as a police station under caution, and they did say within a couple of weeks that they were going to take any further action. �* , ., ., were going to take any further action. �* i. ., ., ., action. but you did have to go throu~h action. but you did have to go through this _ action. but you did have to go through this at _ action. but you did have to go through this at a _ action. but you did have to go through this at a time - action. but you did have to go through this at a time of - action. but you did have to go through this at a time of your| action. but you did have to go i through this at a time of your life when _ through this at a time of your life when you — through this at a time of your life when you are mourning the loss of your wife~ — when you are mourning the loss of yourwife... so when you are mourning the loss of your wife... so today what is your feeling _ your wife... so today what is your feeling as— your wife... so today what is your feeling as you heard those votes 330 to? ., ., , to? relief and delight that this chan . e to? relief and delight that this change has _ to? relief and delight that this change has happened. - to? relief and delight that this change has happened. it i to? relief and delight that this change has happened. it is i to? relief and delight that this| change has happened. it is long overdue. for me personally there is

a bittersweet element because my wife had ms which isn't considered a terminal illness so it wouldn't have helped her. but i'm delighted for all the people this bill will help. there are hundreds of people each year who will not now have to go through and suffering that they would otherwise have been faced... when you hear how passionate the other— when you hear how passionate the other side — when you hear how passionate the other side is and how close this was, _ other side is and how close this was, there _ other side is and how close this was, there was no way of telling during _ was, there was no way of telling during the — was, there was no way of telling during the debate how it's going to gom _ during the debate how it's going to gom how— during the debate how it's going to go... how do you respond to all those _ go... how do you respond to all those concerns and fears that this could _ those concerns and fears that this could he _ those concerns and fears that this could he so — those concerns and fears that this could be so much wider thanjust those _ could be so much wider thanjust those people that have six months or less to _ those people that have six months or less to live? — those people that have six months or less to live? | those people that have six months or less to live?— less to live? i think it's very important — less to live? i think it's very important to _ less to live? i think it's very important to look— less to live? i think it's very important to look at - less to live? i think it's very important to look at the i less to live? i think it's very i important to look at the evidence from all the jurisdictions around the world. the evidence is that peoples fears are unfounded and they do go away once they see how this actually works in operation. in every 1412 00:10:53,