there's joy and sorrow outside parliment, as campaigners for and against the bill gather react to the results of the historic vote. we are one step closer to actually be able to having that choice of a kind death when the time comes. this is not the answer to it. killing them — is not the answer to it. killing them off— is not the answer to it. killing them off is not the answer to it. hello and welcome to bbc news. it was a moment of history — mps at westminster deciding to support a bill, to legalise assisted dying. the vote came after hours of impassioned, personal, principled, and moving debate. the prime minister, sir keir starmer among those who voted in favour of the bill. for those who'd come to parliament to back �*assisted dying'. this was the moment they heard how mps had voted.

the ayes to the right 330. the noes to the _ the ayes to the right 330. the noes to the ehdm — the ayes to the right 330. the noes to the end... 275. the ayes have it, the eyes— to the end... 275. the ayes have it, the eyes have — to the end... 275. the ayes have it, the ayes have it. all day, there have been supporters and protestors — in rival groups making their case. these are the pictures a short distance away — of those who'd lobbied against the bill. worth saying, it is not now law — this is just the first hurdle, but in the past when mp's have voted, it's always fallen at this hurdle. we're going to spend the next few hours — getting reaction to this landmark moment, talking to those on both sides of the debate,hearing fromdoctors in countries where this has already been legalised and examining what this bill actually lays out, and the likely timeframe for politicians to debate the details before this can become law. let's start by going back

to westminster and to our political correspondent — helen catt. there has been so much reaction since the vote actually came in. there is so much so that still lies ahead... ., , .,, ahead... you said it then. this has not et ahead... you said it then. this has not yet become — ahead... you said it then. this has not yet become law. _ ahead... you said it then. this has not yet become law. this - ahead... you said it then. this has not yet become law. this is - ahead... you said it then. this has not yet become law. this is a - ahead... you said it then. this has| not yet become law. this is a really significant moment, let's not understate that or underplay it. there is for the first time a realistic prospect that they could be a law that allows assisted dying in some circumstances in england and wales. that hasn't happened before. the last time this was debated, and there was a vote on this in parliament was nine years ago, in 2015 and then it fell. so today's vote does mean there is a realistic prospect of a law now coming in. but what today's vote did was to start the parliamentary process. they have voted on the parliamentary principle. what happens now is a lot

more discussion. there are a lot more discussion. there are a lot more formal stages that it will go through. in the short term it goes to the committee stage where a committee of mps will go through this bill line by line, word by word, and really examine what it says and what needs to be changed if they think there is anything there needs to be changed. unusually for a private member's bill, this committee will also have the power to call witnesses to take extra testimony. that will take time and is going to be a thorough process. it will have to come back to mps for another vote, and what's known as the third reading and that really is the third reading and that really is the one where we will find out if it clears the house of commons. if it does that it has to go through all the stages in the house of lords. what we are looking at is a fairly lengthy process that the bill has to go through and there is no guarantee that it will go through all those

stages. certainly some of those who were arguing against the bill don't believe that there can be changes or amendments in the committee stage to their satisfaction so they think they will still vote against it in a third reading. it will depend how many of those who may have voted for it today but still think they need to be changes, whether those changes are made to their satisfaction to get it through the parliamentary process. get it through the parliamentary rocess. ., , . , , process. there was incredibly owerful process. there was incredibly powerful stories _ process. there was incredibly powerful stories that - process. there was incredibly powerful stories that mps - process. there was incredibly| powerful stories that mps just passed on, the sort of experiences they had been told about by their constituents... yes they had been told about by their constituents. . ._ they had been told about by their constituents... yes it really was a owerful constituents... yes it really was a powerful few _ constituents... yes it really was a powerful few hours _ constituents. .. yes it really was a powerful few hours of— constituents... yes it really was a powerful few hours of debate. - constituents... yes it really was a powerful few hours of debate. if. constituents... yes it really was a i powerful few hours of debate. if you watched it, the whole demeanour of the chamber and the commons chamber which often is quite shouting and jeering, it was not today. there was absolute silence as we had quite a lot of mps talk about some of the experiences that their constituents have gone through and there were some really quite harrowing details,

particularly kim leadbetter�*s speech that she bought forward about people suffering in their final hours and the impact that it has also had on their loved ones who had watch that happen. there were also personal experiences that were shared by mps of their own lives and their own families who had perhaps been a love when —— with a loved one who had had experiences with their children which had made them think about this in a particular light. there was a huge amount of personal detail and quite passionate speeches that we heard on both sides of this debate. because it was a really serious topic, it is a serious topic. there is a conundrum at the heart of it which we saw today which is how to you stop some people having those horrible, harrowing experiences we heard about today in their final days and the effect that has on their loved ones against how do you

make sure that there aren't others who accidentally, unintended leaf end up feeling that they need to end their lives sooner than they would have ended, because they can, if that makes sense to you. there is that makes sense to you. there is that conundrum at the heart of it. nobody is denying how tricky that is. and we certainly heard that in quite powerful detail today. more from ou quite powerful detail today. more from you later — quite powerful detail today. more from you later today. .. _ let's speak to rebecca wilcox, the daughter ofjournalist and tv presenter dame esther rantzen. welcome here to the programme. i think i'm right in saying you watch this debate from the gallery. what was it like to actually see this? i was it like to actually see this? i was in the public gallery. i've never— was in the public gallery. i've never done that before so it was a completely unknown and unknowable experience. i felt like i was swimming through mud, i didn't

understand a lot of the processes, but the _ understand a lot of the processes, but the speeches, my goodness, this the things— but the speeches, my goodness, this the things that people were saying and the _ the things that people were saying and the stories they were saying... the respect... the respect i expected _ the respect... the respect i expected it to be more adversarial. i found _ expected it to be more adversarial. i found myself getting furious at points, — i found myself getting furious at points, so— i found myself getting furious at points, so i started writing notes fervently — points, so i started writing notes fervently and seriously, and just really _ fervently and seriously, and just really grateful to everyone who stood _ really grateful to everyone who stood up — really grateful to everyone who stood up and share their story whatever— stood up and share their story whatever side of the debate they fail, whatever side of the debate they fail. it— whatever side of the debate they fail, it was brave and clever and articulate — fail, it was brave and clever and articulate and kind and compassionate but i am so relieved that it _ compassionate but i am so relieved that it went— compassionate but i am so relieved that it went our way. i�*ll compassionate but i am so relieved that it went our way.— that it went our way. i'll come back to that final — that it went our way. i'll come back to that final phrase _ that it went our way. i'll come back to that final phrase in _ that it went our way. i'll come back to that final phrase in the - to that final phrase in the moment. have you spoken to your mother since the result came in? film have you spoken to your mother since the result came in?— the result came in? oh yes, i spoke to a halfway — the result came in? oh yes, i spoke to a halfway through _ the result came in? oh yes, i spoke to a halfway through and _ the result came in? oh yes, i spoke to a halfway through and i - the result came in? oh yes, i spoke to a halfway through and i spoke . the result came in? oh yes, i spoke to a halfway through and i spoke to| to a halfway through and i spoke to at the _ to a halfway through and i spoke to at the end — to a halfway through and i spoke to at the end. she was excessively relieved — at the end. she was excessively relieved. she said, it kim

leadbetter... was excellent... mum 'ust leadbetter... was excellent... mum just wanted — leadbetter... was excellent... mum just wanted to tell her how brave and brilliant she was because, my goodness — and brilliant she was because, my goodness doing that for everyone, all the _ goodness doing that for everyone, all the families out there, so, so, so brilliant — all the families out there, so, so, so brilliant-— all the families out there, so, so, so brilliant. she has been so vocal and prominent. — so brilliant. she has been so vocal and prominent, so _ so brilliant. she has been so vocal and prominent, so have _ so brilliant. she has been so vocal and prominent, so have you. - so brilliant. she has been so vocal and prominent, so have you. tell| so brilliant. she has been so vocal i and prominent, so have you. tell me why this decision is so important for you. this why this decision is so important for ou. a ., ., ~ ., for you. as you may or may not know my mother. — for you. as you may or may not know my mother. dame — for you. as you may or may not know my mother, dame esther _ for you. as you may or may not know my mother, dame esther rantzen i for you. as you may or may not know| my mother, dame esther rantzen has terminat— my mother, dame esther rantzen has terminal lung cancer. we don't know how long _ terminal lung cancer. we don't know how long she has left. i hope a really— how long she has left. i hope a really long time, at the moment she is undergoing chemo, but she honestly— is undergoing chemo, but she honestly don't know is when the drug will stop— honestly don't know is when the drug will stop working. but when it does not working we don't know what the progression will be like for her. we

only know— progression will be like for her. we only know that death from cancer can be only know that death from cancer can he awful _ only know that death from cancer can be awful. and there are some kinds of cancer— be awful. and there are some kinds of cancer that all palliative care experts — of cancer that all palliative care experts agree cannot be treated just with palliative care alone, and that the pain— with palliative care alone, and that the pain is— with palliative care alone, and that the pain is surpassing opioid barrier _ the pain is surpassing opioid barrier. mum signed up to dig this us and _ barrier. mum signed up to dig this us and that's what started us on this campaign. a lot of people come to this _ this campaign. a lot of people come to this through the things that their— to this through the things that their love 1's experience. i was sat next to an amazing lady who has — i was sat next to an amazing lady who has terminal stage four breast cancer— who has terminal stage four breast cancer and — who has terminal stage four breast cancerand i'm who has terminal stage four breast cancer and i'm surrounded who has terminal stage four breast cancerand i'm surrounded by who has terminal stage four breast cancer and i'm surrounded by these incredibly— cancer and i'm surrounded by these incredibly brave people who have put so much _ incredibly brave people who have put so much energy and thought, and care, _ so much energy and thought, and care, into — so much energy and thought, and care, into a — so much energy and thought, and care, into a really compassionate and brilliant campaign, and ijust

hope _ and brilliant campaign, and ijust hope that— and brilliant campaign, and ijust hope that they feel some sense of 'oy hope that they feel some sense of joy and _ hope that they feel some sense of joy and success at this very beginning, but very important stage. i'll beginning, but very important stage. i'ii come _ beginning, but very important stage. i'ii come to _ beginning, but very important stage. i'll come to the likely timeline in a moment, but you were there, and heard all the counterarguments, the worries about coercion, slippery slopes, safeguards... are you reassured that the safeguards are sufficient? {3h reassured that the safeguards are sufficient? , , ., , sufficient? oh yes, the safeguards built into the — sufficient? oh yes, the safeguards built into the very _ sufficient? oh yes, the safeguards built into the very cornerstones . sufficient? oh yes, the safeguards built into the very cornerstones of| built into the very cornerstones of this bill, _ built into the very cornerstones of this bill, you can read this bill and not — this bill, you can read this bill and not realise that a patient has to apply— and not realise that a patient has to apply for this eight times within a very— to apply for this eight times within a very short period of time. this could _ a very short period of time. this could he — a very short period of time. this could be any rushing. there's more safeguards— could be any rushing. there's more safeguards safeguarding this bill than exist now. what safeguards do vulnerable — than exist now. what safeguards do vulnerable people have now from coercion? — vulnerable people have now from coercion? there was a lot of talk about _ coercion? there was a lot of talk about it — coercion? there was a lot of talk about it and i was really pleased when _ about it and i was really pleased when some spurious comments were bought— when some spurious comments were bought up— when some spurious comments were bought up that there were a point of order— bought up that there were a point of order is— bought up that there were a point of order is brought up that they were counterarguments brought up, that actually— counterarguments brought up, that actually quoted the report that came

out earlier— actually quoted the report that came out earlier this year that showed there _ out earlier this year that showed there was— out earlier this year that showed there was no slippery slope, that in countries _ there was no slippery slope, that in countries where having existed buying — countries where having existed buying regulation legislation that there _ buying regulation legislation that there is— buying regulation legislation that there is no slippery slope that palliative care improves, that also is the _ palliative care improves, that also is the same. at the safeguards palliative care improves, that also is the same. at